Steelers' Needs Mean Graham Barton Overlooked Option in 1st Round? | Brandon Aiyuk Trade Still Open
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- The Pittsburgh Steelers' need a center in the NFL Draft, but is Graham Barton an overlooked first round option? Chris Carter and Alan Saunders explore the possibility of the Steelers' drafting Barton as the next center for the franchise.
Also, the Steelers are rumored to still be open to a trade for Brandon Aiyuk trade with the San Francisco 49ers. But what would the price be to land a top wide receiver? Would it be worth it to get that player and pass on receivers in the NFL Draft?
Finally, are the Steelers still looking hard at linebackers in the NFL Draft?
Steelers' Needs Mean Graham Barton Overlooked Option in 1st Round? | Brandon Aiyuk Trade Still Open / @lockedonsteelers
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Two of my favorite Steelers media guys on one show. This is awesome!
Barton is one of these guys I liked in October. Every mock simulator for the last 6 months had him from #28 to#40. He is still projecting in that range. Spend #20 on him? No, trade down to around pick 28.
Barton isnt going far beyond 20. He is certainly in play at 24 Dallas, possibly at 22 in Philly, and Tampa at 26.
@@craigmastendri3980 Dallas is a possibility. Philly has Jurgens. As far as Tampa I never saw Hainsey play, No clue what the Bucs think of him. If they do like him they will grab one later. . The Bucs problem is they don't have a QB. Mayfield left. I think this is where Bo Nix gets taken off the board.
Not so sure he’ll be available 28. I’m almost certain they’ll trade down but not for Barton, for Frazier and get another 2nd round pick. (C, T, DL, WR, CB, S, LB)
There’s no way either one of them will be on the board at 51 which leads me to believe they’ll pick their starting C 1st if they do not trade up or down. If they stay at 20 and select T 1st most if not all of the day 1 starting capable centers will be gone which IMHO would be disastrous.
@Varzaak Mayfield signed with Tampa. All of the teams I mentioned are questionable at C, certainly not beyond grabbing the top C prospect. I would say Philly has greater need/value at corner. But Roseman is all about the trenches.
With Dallas possibly being shorted on OT selections at that point? Barton would be the best option.
You could factor in Arizona as well at 27. Barton is very unlikely to slide to rd 2
@@stevensharples286 Your perspective is plausible, especially if they trade down. I dont believe they will unless the OT'S and CB'S they like are all gone. That seems unlikely. And, I think they would stick and pick Barton.
Im not sure OC is a need for the Dolphins they signed Brewer to a 3 yr deal
Its kind of ironic for all those clamoring for a C to be so speculative on Barton. He is the #1 center prospect in this draft. And preferable to some tackle options. I'd absolutely take him over Guyton at 20.
I still believe OT will be the pick if one of their preferred options are there. And while thats what I would like? I wouldnt be mad at selecting Barton.
I really do not understand why people place Center at such a low positional value. It's maddening especially if you're playing against the 3-4 (Baltimore). I know most teams are moving to the 4-3 lately but still. That's your anchor and it should be an "anchor" level player.
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Steelers can absolutely make the cap work for Aiyuk and still build the team. Check out Dave Bryan’s analysis on the subject on Steelers Depot. Chris you should try the get Alex Kozora on sometimes
Hopefully pgh has chance to move back to 24 take a tackle then use the extra capital to trade up for frazier or best avail corner. Really like phillips and Sanistrel..would settle for Norzad or Bortelini Bortelini.
Solid trade back candidate if Barton is the man! They need the picks. What do they do if Fuaga or /Thomas/AD is there at 20?
There are real tackles & centers in the draft. Why even take a chance on moving someone around. 1. Tackle, 2. center, 3. Slot WR, then corner & get courtland Sutton here.
Barton is a real tackle but also played center his freshman year
Plus James Daniel's played 36 games at center in college at Iowa, bears moved him to guard because they had injuries and poor play , he did play some at center too til they had Kyle long struggle at guard so they moved Daniel's back to guard .
Grab a player that can play center (Barton) and let him learn . You have Daniel's that can play center if needed .
Frazier has issues at center with bull rushes getting pushed back .
JPJ has had concussion issues so thats a risk .
He’s not an upper tier tackle in the nfl. He’ll probably play guard or center eventually. We don’t got that kind time.
@minithin agree he is not a real tackle , every evaluation has been that he moves to center and most agree he is going to be a very good to great center .
I have no issues with Barton. I think he is going to be the best center out of this class . Jpj is the only other one I think thay can start day 1 . I don't think Frazier or van pran start day 1 .
Exactly 💯
Off-season is for beating the drums for skill positions but then the reality of the season hits everyone and the cry for trench players begins (again). FIX THE TRENCHES
0:45 - Alan, throw away the frozen pizzas & sugar cereals. Join a gym & get some sleep during NFL downtime
This is a wild comment mind your business 😂😂
@@NoahBarrow I was about to be offended, but then I saw the weird face I was making, and you know what? Fair. -- AS
If the 9ers want to trade him, next years second and a third or fourth this year should be more than enough, theyd get a 3rd in compensation if they let him walk in what 2025
does alan not know the the 49ers are a run first team and brandon aiuk is an excellent run blocker?
Steelers should swap 1st round picks, and a 4th rd, to SF for Brandon Aiyuk. The 49ers want to draft a receiver in 1st. Moving up to 20 will help them.
What teams need a center? Steelers, dolphins, eagles who is ?
😂 Its a really good center class.
Guys like these pop up all the time and end up being busts and players like JPJ experience “prospect fatigue”. JPJ is the best Center in the draft.
Trade back and take JPJ. Or I wouldn’t mind an OT in the 1st(Fuaga or Latham not Mims) and Frazier in the 2nd. Although I don’t think Frazier makes it to 51.
you don't give up a first round pick this year next year or any other year for a over priced player,,, I don't care who he is
Really DONT think we should mess with a Center who is NOT a Center !! We need a Plug n Play guy . Great Athlete but we really Don't have luxury to Test or train a Dude up !!😎
Eichenberg wont be drafted until rd 6 imo
No Center in the 1st rd no value there Tackle is then CB & WR get a center rd 4 👊
Disagree with 4th as a solid starter at center but would move back if Barton is their man. I prefer AD at around 24-27 over Barton. If they stay at 20, Tackle might be the selection. I expect a D tackle/end fairly high, before rd 4. All hinges upon how talent falls.
Why do yall keep talking about how good the Steelers are at drafting wrs? Khan hasn't drafted one yet. We have a different wr coach and the has been a lot of turnover in the scouts. New regime. 🤦🏾♂️
Maybe you're a new or young fan but Omar Khan has been the assistant GM for 22 years so he didn't just start being involved with the Steelers drafting players lmaooooo 😂
@TheFactsMob no I'm not new or young. Before last year Khan only dealt with the money side. You should do your research and stop trying to make someone look st up id, stu pi d. 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@TheFactsMob Tomlin probably has a hand in those picks too
@@marjojones9369 Watch Omar's press conference when he got hired and try again. Stop getting your information from fan driven podcasts lil bro. It's not that serious so relax but you're wrong. Omar said it out of his own mouth. But IM the one that needs to do research? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TheFactsMob you keep talking bout Omar. What about thee scouts and wr coach. You saying that doesn't matter. Man stfu and leave me alone
Get the center first , tackle can be drafted later
Depends, as much as the Steelers need a C, if the projection of the top C in the class are average NFL players vs the available tackles projected to be pro bowl level players then it would be wise to get the better player (OT).
Now if the top centers were on the Pouncey-level, then go get a C in the first…. doesn’t look like the case though.
So draft the cheaper easier to find player FIRST because you don't research YOURSELF and don't have a clue what other players can play center right? So panic and pick the first center available because of Kendrick Green right? Great. Cool story bro 🙄
Cris def sometimes reminds of the weird kid in class in high school loo😂thsts my dawg tho 💯
Kinda strange to look at a 30 something year old man and think about his high school days, maybe someone living in the past over there
I dont Steelers taking a ilb until 3th rd .
I agree with Alan wait until the summer , then offer a 2025 first round pick for Aiyuk.
Khan has painted himself in a corner how did we not a starting center in F.A. and why did we trade Diontae without a clear#1 replacement?! SMH
James Daniel's was a center in college career , where he played mostly , was moved to guard in pros with sone games at center for bears as well, so center actually was his primary position . Herbig has also played center .
Daniel's had 37 college games at center, bears needed him at guard so they moved him , then he did play center for them but was moved back to guard when Kyle long struggled there
@@robertdocholliday66sadler - I see this point being made all over the place, however, moving Daniels to C simply leaves them in the same position of needing two starters on the OL just replacing the need of C with the need of RG.
And if Herbig was an upgrade over Cole, then we should’ve seen it happen already.
I agree, it would’ve perfectly fine to have slightly overpaid a FA C rather than to be in this position… that one extra move would’ve set them up very nicely with this draft taking a OT in the first and having tons of flexibility afterwards.
I also thought they could’ve brought in a better haul for DJ but not the end of the world…. they’ll get cheaper at the position in this draft with a rookie better suited for this offense.
@mike2687 well if you still draft Barton he can play guard while he learns more at center if he can't beat out Daniel's at center .
Pay Pickens, Pickens is already better than Iyuck... trade Dan Moore jr
Alan saunders fkn blows…
"Can you afford to pay Freiermuth long term?". Lol GTFO. Muth is a bust and the Steelers will be better once that bum is on a different team.
Do you actually watch football? Yall statline watchers are pathetic 🙄
@TheFactsMob TE's need to be able to block. Pat improved last year to being just under average in that area. Nobody is questioning his receiving ability but that alone isn't what makes a te. For a second round pick, you can make the argument that he's been a bust so far.
@@jeffhewitt2819 Dude... you need to do some research. Do realize how many 2nd round TEs that don't block? Show me some games where Kyle Pitts is showing you he's some in-line blocking phenomenon. And he's a top 5 pick! Dalton Kinkaid(1st rd), Evan Engram(1st rd), Tucker Kraft(3rd rd), Luke Musgrave(2nd rd), Tyler Kroft(3rd rd), Mike Gesicki(2nd rd), Michael Mayer(2nd rd), Jonnu Smith(3rd rd) all these TEs must be busts too because NONE OF THEM CAN BLOCK IN-LINE right? Alot of you casual ass fans jump in these conversations with your RUclips football IQ trying to debate but YOU DONT WATCH FOOTBALL ENOUGH! If Muth is a bust because this "all 2nd round TEs have to block..." bullshxt you just spewed... then every single TE I just named are ALSO busts because they don't block either. Stop being a prisoner of the moment and relax. Dude had 1 down year with the worst OC and QB room in the league and you casuals don't understand the weapons were gonna suffer too! Look at his 1st two seasons then try again SMFH.
Muth is a legit TE who was playing in a trash offense by Canada and suffers from the same thing we said about Diontae...subpar QB play. Fields was highly effective with his TE at CHI. Do you want 2 blocking TE and not have Pat?