2024 NFL Offseason Grades for All 32 NFL Teams | PFF NFL Show
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- PFF's Steve Palazzolo and Sam Monson discuss offseason moves for every NFL team.
0:00 - Intro
4:00 - Arizona Cardinals
6:30 - Atlanta Falcons
12:45 - Baltimore Ravens
19:05 - Buffalo Bills
27:20 - Carolina Panthers
32:35 - Chicago Bears
37:30 - Cincinnati Bengals
43:15 - Cleveland Browns
47:30 - Dallas Cowboys
53:40 - Denver Broncos
1:00:05 - Detroit Lions
1:07:10 - Green Bay Packers
1:10:05 - Houston Texans
1:15:00 - Indianapolis Colts
1:17:25 - Jacksonville Jaguars
1:22:20 - Kansas City Chiefs
1:27:20 - Las Vegas Raiders
1:30:50 - Los Angeles Chargers
1:36:05 - Los Angeles Rams
1:42:55 - Miami Dolphins
1:48:45 - Minnesota Vikings
1:52:20 - New England Patriots
1:56:40 - New Orleans Saints
1:59:55 - New York Giants
2:05:55 - New York Jets
2:11:45 - Philadelphia Eagles
2:15:35 - Pittsburgh Steelers
2:20:50 - San Francisco 49ers
2:25:40 - Seattle Seahawks
2:29:45 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2:33:25 - Tennessee Titans
2:36:50 - Washington Commanders
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Half of the podcast is just them arguing over their own grading criteria 😂
lmfao classic Sam & Steve
They didn’t write the grading article, they said right in the beginning that they’ll give their own opinions
These guys literally never keep on topic and waste hoursssss of my life talking about nonsense bruh
@@JordanNewbzdon’t watch, then
@@JordanNewbz I liked the nonsense.
Really confused by Sam’s take on the Bengals. They got better in almost every position except interior D line. Even that improved on the pass rush while taking a big hit against the run. One might argue that RB got worse but I think it’s pretty easy to see they got better in many ways. Better yards after contact, younger, better pass blocking…
Way better at TE, Saftey and O line.
He knows what the Bengals are at heart...a team that will never be good enough to win it all. LOL
Sam not liking the Bengals every year, challenge success.
COWBOYS AN BENGALS ARE SO DIFFERENT. Cowboys are relying on Beebe that has never played a snap at center in college and Guyton that has barley played RT and only 1 game at LT
Atl overpaid for a old above average QB coming off a major injury. Then proceeded to over draft his replacement when they needed help at pass rusher. Yes that's a C- off season.
Is Atlanta better than last season? Many would say they are. Isn't that the point of the off season... to improve?
@@warpeace8891Yes they got better but that penix move was so dumb I could see y it had such an impact on the grade. So many ways u could've gone and u draft an old rookie to sit behind a QB ur breaking the bank for. Dumb move
@@jayrock5357 - Good points. I have tried to justify the Penix pick from their point of view.
The best I can do is think the Falcons are very confident that Penix is worth the risk. Nobody will complain 3 years from now if they are right.
@@warpeace8891 I don't doubt that I like penix more than most but if that was their plan they should've never signed Kirk. They could've got an elite receiver or elite defender it makes no sense to sign a 40 yr old QB to win now then draft a QB that's NFL ready and old for a rookie already
It's the most braindead pic in the History of the nfl nothing against ATLQB#9=GLASS
Go Lions~!! 🦁🦁💙💙💙
So weird seeing players young and old wanting to play in Detroit. Lions could never have had this type of off season even 5 years ago. Players were saying they'd retire before playing in Detroit. Great times to be a Lions fan (of 60 years fGs)
Plus they can buy entire city blocks for about $2000. That can't hurt. 🤣
As a giants fan I also see burns slightly overhyped/overpaid. The only suffice outcome is 18 sacks or better a season, n this is us rebounding off Leonard Williams who they acquired from the jets w the same enthusiasm/overwhelm as this trade.
This should be Travis Kelces last year before he retires. The Chiefs tried to move up in front of the Bengals in this draft and get Amarius Mims. Big win for the Bengals because I have a feeling Mims is going to multiple Pro Bowls and multiple All Pro teams In the next 10 years. So the Chiefs lost Snead and they didn’t sign a free agent CB and they only drafted 1 CB in round 6. Kamal Haden out of Tennessee so I guess he will be one of the starting CBs this year. That’s Kansas City! Thanks for making it easier for the Bengals to beat you. You know in that 2022 AFC championship game our RG Alex Cappa was hurt. Cappa is real good going up against Chris Jones in his career. Usually hold him to 0 sacks and a couple of pressures. This year Cappa is back and very healthy. We almost beat yall last year with Jake Browning playing QB.
A dominant pass rusher whether edge or DT is the second most important position followed by WR then LT.
That’s a good debate. I’d rather have Justin Jefferson then Micah Parsons tho
@@dbell2091Agree. Especially considering how an number 1 WR/TE can open up things for the other Options on the Team (i personally would favor TE due to the Lack of high end guys overall).
Third most important in my eyes would be dominant DT in an vakuum for me because its easier to get good Edge production to complement my star DT than vice versa.
@@dbell2091 I'd probably use an Aaron Donald type of player rather than Parsons. Parsons kind of follows that grand tradition of Penn State defensive players who excel as long as you don't actually give them something they're required to do. Before grabbing that guy, make sure your scheme allows it.
That said, I'm just not as sold on using a high pick on a receiver if you have a vital need elsewhere. Especially now that the drafts are allegedly so deep regarding the receiver position. Plus you need to make sure you have a quarterback who can properly utilize that guy. I think there are limiting factors regarding receivers that you don't have so much when it comes to a player at another position being effective.
No challenges? I want to see Steve trying to rock an afro again, or Sam going an entire show without saying the word "like." Come on guys, those things were fun.
These guys nailed it! Let’s go!
Steve is a baseball player. Ameliorate doesn’t come up in the clubhouse often.
How the hell do the Chiefs get an A after losing an All Pro outside CB? And they didn’t replace him with anyone. Trent McDuffie is a nickel CB not an outside CB. I just find it hard to give the Chiefs an A after losing such a good player at such an imposition and I guess replacing him with a rookie CB.
They don't have to replace him with a rookie. They've got two solid 3rd-year corners and two solid 2nd-year corners, and Dave Merritt at the helm.
Same with judging Bills a C+ when they will literally be better win more games and sh*t all over these mainstream sports media negative talking points. We Bills fans know the dropsy twins needed to go. Diggs the cancer and Davis did almost nothing since the 13 second playoff game. Diggs has been in decline since mid-2022 on film. Addition by subtraction but added Samuel, Coleman and MVS who, together will be better than Diggs and Davis who fell off dramatically 2nd half of the season and were non-existent in playoffs. Say what they will about MVS, he makes bigtime catches in the playoffs. They can snicker about Claypool but he cost us nothing and makes near minimum if he even makes the team. Shakir and Kincaid are gonna ball out. We got to within 3 points of winning the divisional against the chiefs with Shakir and Kincaid alone. But they'll kiss the Chiefs arse. They all got soo excited Chiefs traded with Bills for that shrimp WR who's the next John Ross. Shameful grade. Doesn't surprise me they just summarily gave the Chiefs a "A" after losing Sneed. They didn't mention that Allen and Shakir were the only duo to beat Sneed for a TD all 2023 both reg season and playoffs COMBINED. Who's gonna defend Shakir, last year's leader in best catch/drop %, this year? Someone worse than Sneed. We took their deep theat and they're counting on a rookie while they may lose Rice possibly. He also may regress with the pressure of the criminal case looming. I think the Chiefs are ripe for a step down and they are basically saying Chiefs get an A and should 3-peat. I don't buy it.
The Bengals did improve dramatically at Right Tackle and they have enough guys in Rankins, Jenkins, Jackson to offset the loss of Reader who I might add was hurt a lot. At Safety we got better because Dax Hill was not and is not a Free safety. He is a nickel CB that is what he is elite at. And Bell knows the system and is a dam good veteran. The Panthers were foolish for cutting him. And we got Jordan Battle who made
The all rookie team last year. At RB I think we got better too. Although Mixon is still dam good. At TE we upgraded. Geisiki is 6’6’’ 247 and runs 4.54. We resigned Drew Sample who is one of the best blocking TEs in the game. He has been with the team since 2019. And we got some exciting rookie TE’s in the draft. Bengals definantly get an A.
Mom. Dad. Please stop fighting
Aidan O’Connell had 8 touchdowns and 0 interceptions in the last four games as the Raiders went 3-1. If he was a first round pick the experts would be praising his ‘development.’
Thank you
It seems obvious, but so many people don't seem to use common sense.
u guys are such casuals
@@blessembreaks Nice troll attempt clown 🤡
Bro I’m a raiders fans but he wasn’t a first round pick for a reason let’s not make up scenarios and act like we didn’t want him replaced by Daniel’s 😭
Rakestraw is not "in case they are wrong" about Arnold. He gives them 2 young CBs in a room without a lot of people signed for more than 2 years. They also had great chemistry on their ore-draft visit and were considered the best in the draft at what AG wants his guys to do. Kind of a quibble, but thanks for reading the comment. (You said you read them ALL, Steve...)😅
I follow the Bengals very closely and I can say unequivocally that the Bengals are better right now than they were when the season ended. We upgraded at all positions of need I think. I would take 22 year old Jermaine Burton over 29 year old Tyler Boyd any day. Reader is 30 and has been hurt a lot and his play fell off last year. And Zach Moss is a good RB. This is a pass first team though. And Chase Brown is going to have a good second season. I’m A LOT more optimistic about this year than I was last year. All of our rookies from last year are a year older and more experienced.
Didn't replace Awuzie. Short a veteran corner for the bench.
@@MissLippy-fy6bj agreed. We need a veteran CB. I like Tre Flowers was available a few days ago but he just signed with the Jags. Apple is still available. He isn’t like great or anything but he is league average. We got to a Super Bowl and another AFC championship with him on the team. He pretty much started in 2021 and at least half of 2022 after Awuzie went down. The tallest CB we have on the team is DJ Ivey. 6’1’’. And he is coming back from ACL surgery so I don’t know his status. Eli Apple is also 6’1’’. He has long arms and he has 4.40 speed. If not Apple then Steven Nelson is still available. He played for the Texans the past 2 years and played pretty dam good. He is smaller than Apple at 5’10’’ and a bit slower with 4.49 speed but it’s all adequate.
The Steelers deserve an “A” for what they’ve done! The only thing they didn’t do was get a top receiver and maybe another DB. If they had done those things, they would’ve been an A+.
And they hit it out of the park on draft day, getting players who were all graded above their ultimate draft positions.
I agree with you on the A (especially with dirt cheap/ high upside QB's they added). Only reason I don't give A+ is because they let Johnson walk (I know he was being a baby but he would be happier this year without Pickett)
I thought someone might throw a punch during the Cowboy segment.
Does the fact most of those deals the Titans gave out are 2 year deals and only on paper longer change your opinion? Because outside Cush all the other guys are 2 year bandaid contracts with sudo built in option years.
That’s BS about Xavior McKinney. How was he the PFF top graded free safety in 2020 when Jessie Bates was the highest graded FS in 2020 while making the AP All Pro team? Bates graded at I think 91.8 in 2020.
I'm trying to sort this out. Are you saying they claim that McKinney was the top PFF graded FS, but that Bates actually was, in 2020? Or are you saying the first guy was PFF's guy, but that some other grading system had Bates as the top-rated?
As for the All-Pro team/teams, they're voted on, either by media, executives or players. They're not really stat- or success-based. PFF really isn't involved with that. Besides, we all know you can game a stat-based system, but it's tougher to fool all the set of eyes watching what you're actually accomplishing on the field. Russell Wilson was the No. 6-ranked QB who started more than half the season, according to the quarterback ranking stat. He was No. 20 according to QBR, and the team couldn't wait to push his 7-8 ass out the door.
I'd love to see a fantasy draft where u try to construct what u would consider this decades or previous decades best players.
How do the Rams get an A- with a ludicrous trade up for Fiske??
I 100% agree. Fisk was a steal where he was picked except the trade up ruins the value of picking him there. They love Fiske but still lol
If lions defense gets it together they are going to win the Superbowl
The Bengals are quite clearly better than they were last season Sam. Your company PFF graded them as an A. They have a WAY easier schedule than they have had in the past 2 years.
This episode is about offseason moves, not schedule
LACES OUT SAM!
Take a shot every time Sam says “counterfactual”
It's a useful word, and one I need to remember. But, yes, people can get hung up on it. :)
The Bengals got an A in my book too. They upgraded at TE they upgraded at Right Tackle and Jermaine Burton for Tyler Boyd? Sign me up. Burton is faster than Boyd with hands that are just as good as Boyds. Boyd dropped only 3 passes in the past 2 seasons and Burton has dropped only 4 passes in his 4 year collegiate career. Burton dropped 0 passes last year when he led Bama in yards and TDs. I’m not worried about the character concerns at all not even a little bit. Joe Mixon had created concerns when he was drafted in 2017. He was a model citizen in Cincinnati. Yea last year a woman accused him of pointing a gun at her they went to trial and traffic cameras footage backed up what Joe Mixon said happened and he was acquired by either a jury or a judge. Not sure if it was a bench trial or jury trial. We got quicker and more explosive from the DT position. Sheldon Rankins is an underrated pass rusher Kris Jenkins was the second best run stopper in the nation last year and McKinley Jackson is the long term Reader replacement. He is better than most people think. And he has an RAS higher than DJ Reader. He is faster and quicker than Reader is. We would have kept Reader if not for the injuries. His play dipped last year too. Even when he was in the game teams still ran the ball
On us. We did downgrade a bit at RB though but this is a pass first team. Moss is a good RB and I think Chase Brown is going to break out this year. The edge rusher pisition we are stacked at. Hendrickson who is a top 5 edge rusher, Hubbard who may be the best run stopping 4-3 DE in the league who can also rush the passer, Myles Murphy had a good rookie year and is in top top shape now and he is going to make an impact and you have Cam Sample and Joseph Ossai both in a contract year. I think Ossai in particular is going to break out this year and have a Bryce Huff 10 sack kind of year. He is a dam good football player and so is Cam Sample. If I was the Bengals coaches I would instruct Cam Sample to bring his weight up from 272 to 285 and would play him more as a 3-4 DE or a 3 technique in a 4-3. He has 6 sacks in his career and most of them came from the interior. And we drafted Cedric Johnson in the 6th round and he is going to be dam good too I think. Mike Hilton is the starting Nickel CB and Dax Hill was moved to CB and he will back up Hilton this year and out 2 outside CBs are going to be just fine. CTB was having a Pro Bowl level year when he went down in week 14 and DJ Turner looked good last year. Saftey they got Stone and Bell and Battle will play the 3rd safety roll. I think Bsttle is a future Pro Bowler. He made the All Rookie team last year. He started 8 games and had 74 tackles so the kid is a tackling machine.
Time stamps please
Max Melton is going to be a dam good NFL CB. Darius Robinson I wasn’t as impressed with him as some other were.
Sam bending over backwards to defend the Cowboys is wild
Sam is so football smart but he gets stuck on his own opinions and won't give them up even when he knows he is wrong because he thinks he is always the smartest person in the room so how could he be wrong.
Sam's rant about the Bengals and Cowboys off-season moves are legit. Steve just hated to admit he was right.
Most off statement I've read in the comments.
Funny how they always say how bad miami offensive line is (and i agree its below average) but how do you think they had the #1 offense and #6 rushing offense in YPG? Maybe they are not as bad as you think?
Reader wasn’t stopping the run even when he was in the game last year. The Bengals upgraded at RT they upgraded at TE. I’m sure no one on Earth thinks that Irv Smith jr is better than Mike Giseki. At Safety they upgraded with 2 veterans Geno Stone and Vonn Bell. Youth was their problem there last season. Dax Hill was moved back to nickel CB the position he played at Michigan and Jordan Battle will play the 3rd safety roll this year and be a starter next year. Maybe a slight downgrade at RB but I like Zach Moss and Chase Brown is going to break out this year. On the D line they still have BJ Hill, they got Sheldon Rankins, and 2 promising rookies 1 who is a true Nose Tackle who played in the SEC. And as far as Tyler Boyd goes yea he is still good but he is 29 and was never very fast he ran a 4.58 coming out of college. I would take 22 year old Jermaine Burton over him at this point with his blazing speed. Plus they are stacked at WR. Trenton Irwin is good enough to be a WR3 on any team in the league and he is our WR4. Charlie Jones is a Pro Bowl level punt returner but is also a dam good and fast, 4.43. WR and then there is Andrei Iosivas who had just 15 catches last year but 4 of them were TDs lol. He has blazing speed,4.42, and is super smart and hungry. I think he is our long term Tee Higgins replacement.
Going with the tried and true content strategy and just talking Cowboys for half the show.
So confused about the Packers grade here. They get arguably the best two FAs, they get arguably 3 best of position in the draft, add a ton of depth/competition to oline, turn their biggest weakness (safety) into a strength, add talent to their other weakness (LBs).
I'm not sure how many other teams made as much of an improvement to their team.
Shakir could have a 800 yrd 7+ TD season and a breakout for Kincaid
I hate to back Steve on this, given how almost objectively wrong he is about some things (like the WAR "statistic"), but Sam's the one in the wrong with all these comps to Dallas.
Just because two teams are filling comparable holes doesn't mean that the fact that both teams filled them must also be graded equally. Filling holes with NFL players with at least a season or two under their belts IS different than filling them with rookies who may only be good enough to be taxi squad players halfway through the season.
It's why some teams are more willing than others to give up first-round draft picks - especially in the bottom half of the round where you're already taking developmental players - for other teams' veterans who have already shown a little something of what they can be at the NFL level.
1:34:00 - Palmer is better than people think. For 3rd and 4th down, he's been Herbo's #2 clutch guy (behind Slayer) He's been behind KA13 and Mike in reps. And he was on the bench hurt for like 7 weeks last year. I don''t think its a bad thing if Ladd is #2 to Palmer. Palmer may step up big.
A hater grade by Cris Collinworthless C+ is A- to A grade in real life.
I really enjoy the content that comes from off-season/ draft grade videos but damn people can't be consistent team to team with how they grade, I'm a Vikings fan and I feel like everyone is "bashing" us for trading up for Dallas Turner, who is a top 20 player in the draft and is like a perfect scheme fit, then they turn around around and glaze the lions for their draft glossing over the fact that the lions gave up a future 3rd and 4th for a Jordan Mialata type tackle (4 rounds earlier than. Mialata went) and a safety who they are converting to running back. Like if you have issues with what the Vikings gave up you have to have more issues with what the Lions are gambling on and yet I rarely hear people even mention it
Wouldn't be easier to just compare last years depth chart with this years projected depth chart?!?
Let's go 🤘
Yes my favorite picks from the Packers was their 1st pick Morgan and their 2 7th round picks. Didn’t like much in between there.
Another point in the Lions talk about davenport. The Vikings are actually paying him DOUBLE to play for the Lions this year than the Lions are paying him.
Vikings void year cost- 6.8M
Lions cost in 2024 - 3.42M
Yes as a Vikes fan, I'm surprised that they didn't re-sign him. Anything under $5m would have been a net gain in 2024 salary cap space - essentially a free player. He was a Flores addition, so maybe the Vikes did not like his injury outcome...
Sam said the Browns didn’t prioritize RB this year. Well I disagree Sam. They signed 2️⃣ Two RBs in free agency. That’s seems like they have contingencies for if Chubb is t the same. They signed 2 RBs in free agency. Now they didn’t get Josh Jacobs or Saquan Barkley because they are already paying Chubb a lot of money.
Moss looks like a solid contingency plan. I didn't really see a second RB signed unless we're talking about the re-signing of Williams.
While the D-line situation is pretty bad apart from Bosa (Hargrave is basically earmarked as "cut in '25, Floyd isn't who he looks like on paper, no D-linemen in the draft) I'm more interested to see how the 49ers' secondary develops. It feels like they're hesitant to extend Hufanga come next season, and if Mustapha and/or Green become good players they might all of the sudden have a sneakily good secondary, perhaps shifting away from the "shred them at the line" mentality that has been the main focus of the defense since Saleh switched from the hybrid.
Just wish my Jags would fire the GM already. Our drafts will continue to suck until they do
Their banter is just like regular conversations and not like over the top like a lot of talking heads try to be in 2024 (not to mention a lot of social media)
How does Bo Nix compare to Christian ponder?
Here’s some career college stats:
Completion %:
Ponder: 61
Nix: 77
TD to INT Ratio:
Ponder: 49 to 30
Nix: 113 to 26
Ponder had Leslie Frazier as his first head coach. Nix is getting Sean Payton. Sounds exactly the same to me! 😂😂😂
Stats for qb's has really changed in that time. I don't have a lot of Nix confidence.
So Texans should’ve just sat back and not add pieces? I’m not understanding the damn logic
One misconception about Russ and Denver. Russ forced Denver to cut him, the same way he ostensibly forced Seattle to trade him by telling them he would walk when he became a free agent again.
Those teams never said they were better off without Russ, Sean Payton’s dislike of Russ’s persona notwithstanding. We all know Pete Carroll would still have a job in Seattle if Russ had stayed.
Both teams would’ve kept Russ if he had wanted to stay. Was he Payton’s type of QB? No! But there wasn’t a better option for the Broncos. Seattle has a public record showing that they didn’t want to trade Russ…AT ALL!!! Russ embarrassed the franchise by demanding a trade right after they had gone public with declarations of being all-in.
They were the guy who proposed on camera, got rejected, and is now disparaging the woman he proposed to, e.g., “She was lousy in bed anyway…she couldn’t cook,” etc.
Denver wanted to keep Russ for another season, but they didn’t want to be on the hook for $100M if he got injured! That’s why they requested that he defer his injury guarantee. Russ, understanding that refusing their request would be his ticket out, wisely refused!
So no, the Broncos do not think they’re better off without Russ this year, and the Seahawks KNEW they were worse off without Russ. Both teams just played the hands that Russ dealt them.
Sean Payton tried to tank on 2023, and there’s a part of him that had to be amazed that Russ was able to withstand his attempted sabotage and put up respectable stats and win the toughest games on their season, understanding that the defense also hit its act together. It is a team sport, right?
But let’s revise this narrative that Denver thought it was on their best interest to let Russ go, because they did everything they could to hang onto him. Sean Payton treated him like garbage and then began openly disrespecting him more intensely once it became clear that Russ was forcing their hand into cutting him. Russ knew Payton had purposely suppressed his numbers in efforts to tank, and knew Payton was lying when he tried to cover up those tanking efforts by propagating a lie that Russ couldn’t digest his playbook!
Anyone who believes that nonsense is an absolute fool! Russ is one of the smartest, hardest-working, most resilient QBs to ever play the game.
Payton is asking fans and media to believe that Teddy Bridgewater, Taysom Hill, and Jameis Winston, who might have a combined IQ of about 69, could digest an offense that Russ, a two-time SB participant and breaker of multiple elite records, couldn’t understand.
It’s ridiculous, especially when Russ ran Brian Schottenheimer’s offense so masterfully 2018-2020, Russ’s best years. Do people think Schotty’s playbook was rudimentary?
Remember, he was Andrew Luck’s former O.C. before Pete Carroll hired him to coach in Seattle.
And, at the risk of pointing out the obvious, Russ shouldn’t have had to adjust to Sean Payton. Russ had been a winner and an elite QB his entire career. Payton should’ve been adjusting to Russ, and his efforts to publicly disparage Russ’s ability to digest his playbook is also a mask for his own coaching inadequacies.
If a coach cannot adjust to his best players’ skill sets, as did Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Mike Krzyzewski, Andy Reid, Don Shula, Steve Kerr, Greg Poppavich, and other all-time greats, he’s not a great coach!
*SEAN PAYTON IS NOT A GREAT COACH! HE’S A ONE-TIME LUCKY CHEATER WHO MANAGED TO INHERIT A QB WHO
HAPPENED TO BE A PERFECT FIT FOR HIS SO-CALLED “SYSTEM.”*
Russ is still Russ.
He still has the goods, yet he is being treated differently than 40-year-old Aaron Rodgers, who is coming off a season-ending injury, 36-year-old Kirk Cousins (also coming off a season-ending injury), and Matthew Stafford, who is about 38 or 39 and suffered a season-ending injury of his own in 2022, which was a big reason the Seahawks even made the playoffs in 2022 after Russ departed.
The rams traded a next year second to get fiske. They know that it was the top of the 2nd and next year's pick Is prob a late 2nd prob 3 picks from a third which is a vast talent drop off
Id hate to be a Panthers fan,! Will they get 5 wins ? I'm not sure
Dropped the ball on the bills assessment. Diggs was poison period. They couldnt have kept him and kept that team together. The bills have a very good reciever room. Diggs wasnt even relevant after week 9 and the bills still went on a 5 game win streak and took their division and made the post season. The bills are better now just by dumping Diggs and though Davis was hot when he was on, he was always injured and wasnt consistsnt
Bills have a tough schedule too
Packer should be a A.. got better every where they lacked last year
Not surprising another jet hater!! Just say we improved dramatically the o line was the weakness and we clearly addressed it
Who hates the Jets?
I appreciate y’all sticking up for the falcons… Only Lazy analysts think we had a bad off season. Get over it.. RISE UP ATL.
I think two things can be true (which, of course, they won't acknowledge because they're trying a little too hard to carry the Falcons' water).
They absolutely upgraded at QB with a guy who will get them a few more wins just because he won't poop his pants at crucial moments. And - unless that QB has to sit out a sizeable portion of this coming season - they absolutely over-drafted the guy who has had multiple ACL surgeries who is expected to not be a starter until he's 26.5 years old.
To be honest, I think the best justification for taking him that high is if they honestly expect him to have to step in and start a dozen games over the next couple of seasons for various reasons. They certainly should be putting him out there whenever a game has been decided so they have a better idea of what they've got in Penix.
But, of course, you never publicly SAY that you think Cousins is an injury risk and that you need a backup who can take over 1/3 of his starts.
I wasn’t very high on Darius Robinson. And Jonah Williams will be just fine at LT for
The Cardinals. He couldn’t handle the AFC North. Well
He could handle it but not very well. The NFC Wear he will
Do just fine in. Especially since Aron Donald is gone.
You are wrong about Chicago. It is 100% about Caleb Williams. If he is a flop then the rest doesn't matter much.
I give Denver extra bravery points to trade Wilson despite the money. Many other teams would persist with him because of the money and end up picking in the top half of the draft again. They have addressed many previous mistakes this off season and are much better placed than they were 4 months ago.
I think it was on the Mark Schlereth podcast last week or so where they went over a column regarding why it was so urgent to just unload Russ. The list of bullet points was pretty compelling, from holding the ball too long, not being able to call the offense because there were "too many words," having to wear a wrist band with the plays, fleeing the pocket too early, etc. 🤣
Yes. You just cut bait and move on.
@@cobbler88 - I don't see it getting any better from Russell Wilson. Last season is about as good as it gets. His career is done after this contract, I expect.
I expect to see plenty of Justin Fields this season and it might work out well for him in Pittsburgh.
@@warpeace8891 it seems fairly apparent now that Wilson was a product of the Seattle system. I think on that podcast they said - or repeated - that the problem with letting Russ cook is that he basically can't cook. 🤣
The Raiders should grade an F for picking up Chargers scraps with Telesco and mutinized players
You spend more time talking about the Cowboys during the Broncos segment than the Colts during the Colts Segment... Yeeehaaa!
Colts are going under the radar again this year. I hope Richardson can stay on the field. His ceiling is higher than anyone's.
49ers grade and analysis misses the mark: The most talented roster lost no top talent and its floor got higher. This is the toughest roster to crack as a starter, so 2022 and 2023 draft classes should not be dismissed as complete and the general take on the 2024 class is lazy. The OL is being pushed by an interesting array of possibilities that likely will improve the starting group as well as create a very strong top 8. I don't see the take on a willingness to have a bad line as on point. The OL is optimized for run blocking traditionally and you can't argue the results there. Going forward the new additions bring new levels of athleticism for the group (see 20 yard short shuttles for the newcomers). I see Pearsall as an addition that improves pass pro. Couple that pick with Purdy's strength against the blitz (elite) and an impossible to defend collection of skill players...and lastly, note the number of elite athletes ready to backup the first string on offense. Especially at RB and WR the backups possess better athletic profiles than the starters. The fine points to the roster building at SF are so superior that the league in general is not following them and media analysts are not correctly reporting on it.
If you review the efficiency drop off from first string to second string in 2023, it was precipitous. The 49ers got good health and amazing production from the starters, who carried the load for approximately 70% of the plays. What if the 49ers close the gap between the groups by raising their floor? 49ers 2024 could be historically good.
Similarly, if the 49ers return to a top 5 defense against run and pass in 2024, they will not go 12-5. Their focus on defense has been depth and availability but don't forget they have All-Pro's at every level of the defense, including at least two candidates for DPOY. Couple that with 2 MVP candidates leading the offense and there is no other team in the NFL with a similar collection of talent.
Finally, the potential for significant improvement in the special teams, in part due to elite athletes among their 2nd and 3rd levels of their depth chart could produce a product on the field that delivers an unprecedented form of complementary football. Has any team ever produced the top 5 units in offense, defense, and special teams?
The judgement for any off-season is incomplete until you see the impact of the 2nd or 3rd season following. This off-season for SF was as much for 2025 and 2026 as 2024.
Ezra Cleveland should pray for thx six times a day. How does he keep getting paid? Ask Kirk Cousins how he feels. Funny, they must have the same agent.
Gee. What do you know? Any reason to continue gaslighting on the Penix pick again, right?
1) Frame it in a way that was not evident in the article (that the person writing it considers it "burning a draft pick"), then repeat it as though the writer himself had put that forth.
2) Declare that the motive must be "hate" rather than the pretty sound logic that people were putting out there after that pick was made (that, yes, it kind of WAS burning a pick because of X, Y and Z).
3) Touch upon the bona fide reasons for not liking the pick, then shifting a little sideways to support your narrative (like claiming that people draft for the future "all the time," ignoring the fact that when teams do this regarding quarterbacks, it's not at No. 8 - a position in the draft where you can still get a guy who can help you THIS season). Even the comps (Rodgers, Love, Hurts) were taken No. 24, 26 and 53, respectively, I believe.
A person can argue that this is all just part of grading the off season. Not to this extent on this issue. We didn't need to talk for a few minutes about defending a team's first-round pick. They could have just touched on it and moved on. There's nothing wrong with, "They drafted Penix. People have legitimate questions whether it was too high or early for that. We'll see how it works out for the Falcons" then moving on.
I think it's telling that they still feel the need to continuously rehash all of this at this point.
The Penix pick makes the most sense if the Falcons suspect they're going to lose an early draft pick in 2025 because of the Cousins tampering. So does the Vikes trade up for Dallas Turner, if they expect to benefit from the tampering outcome.
@@robe2504 I don't know that it's the tampering as much as what will be available. They may have viewed it more important this season regardless because the next class is so widely believed to have very little in the way of QB talent to offer. It may have been take a kid this year or wait until 2026 when they'd almost have to throw him out there and start right away if the plan is to rid themselves of Cousins after two seasons.
Of course, it stands that maybe they could have gotten someone lower than No. 8. We have no real idea how much they actually were in love with him, considering the circumstances of this year's draft and the next couple.
Of course, they shouldn't be in the position to have any sort of high pick if they get out of the team what is now expected.
They didn't criticize the pick. Did you listen?
@@MissLippy-fy6bj I did not remotely claim they did. Can you read?
You have to grade these teams based on your own personal opinion of the players they added otherwise you're just regashing information that everyone already knows and slapping some random grade on it. Grades are subjective and only for fun. So base it on a subjective opinion.
WR is nowhere near the 2nd most important position. They are SOOOOO easy to find, look at the top ones and 70% werent drafted on day 1.
It is the most overvalued position right now while the most undervalued position is rb because everyone thinks u can plug and play there but u really cant.
Can't you, though?
Take the rushing yards of the top rusher for every team that made the conference championship games last season, divide it by the number of games played and it's barely 62 yards per game. And that's HEAVILY elevated by McCaffrey's 1459 yards. Otherwise it would be just over 54. And McCaffrey was the only one who even had more than 1167 yards during the 17-game campaign. He averaged 86 yards per game his team played. The second best guy averaged less than 69.
Out of those four guys, two of them were in their first full seasons with their team. One was in the second year of his rookie deal. The fourth one had been with his team for five seasons. Apparently he could be replaced because he's a Charger now.
It does appear that you can pretty much plug-and-play.
There are certainly a few special backs. But you don't need one of them to win a title.
@@cobbler88 Now u see the whole u can use a meh rb and win a title began with Brady and continued with Mahomes. If u dont have a GOAT at QB you’re not gonna win a ring unless you have a good rb.
Thats why its funny when everyone mentions Pacheco. Put him on any other team and there are no rings. And i like Pacheco but to say u can win with a 7th rd rb is just categorically false.
We saw what happened in the playoffs to Dallas cuz they couldnt run the ball, we know what the Giants woulda been w/o Saquon or the Raiders w/o Jacobs both yrs those two clubs made the playoffs? W/o them they would come nowhere close.
Im not saying u need to draft a rb in the top 10 but WRs are grossly overpaid and overrated and all the data and empirical evidence is there to show u absolutely dont need to draft them high and it is not the 2nd most valuable position
A C+ is slightly above average how the fuck is Dallas above a D
🐏 fan how u dont mentioned tre white lol when healthy top 5 cb..
He hasn’t been healthy in years and he didn’t look like a top 5 the last time he was on the field
@dbell2091 he looked great last season.. we'll swing the block back on this message
@@daberry9159no he did not.
@@BillsMafiaExperience 💯
Meat Fabric
Malik Nabers is better than Marvin Harrison jr. In the next 4 years yall are going to see what I’m talking about. In 4 years when we look back in this class and we add up the accolades that Nabers and Harrison have and look at the numbers you all will be forced to agree with me.
I disagree lol they’re both awesome
Personally I liked MHJ better but Nabers will be great as well
From now on I’ll just ignore whatever Sam says. Trevor was the one giving these grades and I trust him more. Sam clearly had something against the home town team.
I think it’s time for PFF to change the intros lmao yalls grades are on prime time games and the NFL use yall like it’s Bible lowkey. Yall aren’t the little guys anymore 😂😂
They're a rating service with a podcast.
@@cobbler88 That the NFL fully endorses. No?
@@toon5217 There really isn't an "endorses" in this case. Not any more than you endorse a magazine you pay for.
NFL teams, college teams, etc., simply subscribe to them for custom analytics, and the PFF grade is shown or mentioned on some broadcasts.
Take care.
@@cobbler88 They talk about them on broadcasts and put their grades on their nationally televised games idk what you aren’t getting lol
@toon5217 I'm sorry. If you couldn't understand what I very simply wrote, you're too ignorant to bother with.
I sometimes forget that, unlike me, most people have not worked in the media in major league and major D1 markets for decades and don't really have any idea wtf they're talking about.
C- for Atlanta actually makes me happy. If I saw an A I would feel uneasy. We had the best improvement on the most important position. That needed to be upgraded. Atlantas locked and loaded with a guy in the back.
Don't do this in one podcast. Break it up into multiples and go deeper on each team.
The cowboys debate was 100% warranted. C+ is crazy low for what they’ve done in comparison to every other team in the NFL.
An *all-in* team deserves at least an A++
Steve has a point though. Relying on two rookies to fill 2 critical OL positions is way different than signing a veteran to fill one and drafting his eventual replacement in the first round.
@@MexicanNerd10 Ass + +
@@97CAB564 his point becomes null and void when you compare it to other teams who did the exact sane thing with better grades though. Steelers, Bengals, etc. you can’t have that big of a discrepancy. The difference between a C+ and an A is huge dude lol. That’s like 4-5 deviations in a ranking system.
Bangles come into the season with a shot at being a Super-Bowl contender, I don’t know how you come into the season thinking the Cowboys have a legitimate shot at a Super-Bowl. The moves these teams make can’t be compared 1:1
When talking about the jags they never mention etienne… the best playmaker on the team
I agree, he keeps proving it when healthy he is a very reliable performer.
You should have mentioned the Pats drafting Joe Milton, who is curretly better than Drake Maye and who may end up starting this year ahead of Maye. Milton was a great pickup. 6'5, 230. You should have listed all the UDFA's, and the height and weight of all the players and you should have a split screen showiing the players list the whole time.
You should make a podcast/RUclips channel bud
Lol
Joe Milton was never "currently been better than" any other highly recruited quarterback on any team he was on during the six seasons he attempted to prove otherwise in college. He's just always had the bigger arm. 🤣
Lol! Fandom is a delusional place.
I’m disappointed with your take on the packers. You didn’t mention the biggest change in getting rid of Joe Barry. They already had a loaded defense with talent that has been Grossly miss used. Not only did they turn their biggest weakness in LB and S into huge strengths, they also finally Have a coordinator that can unlock the potential of the talent that’s already there. I think they have more 1st and 2nd round pick on defense than any team in the league! Their offense was the best in the league the last half of the season by quite a bit so beefing up the offensive line and adding the best RB in free agency and some peoples top RB in the draft in addition to Dillon is going to make the running game explode behind an improved line. If love has more time and a better running game and the defense creates more stops and turn overs the offense will get more possessions per game too. I bet they have a to 5 offense and defense this year. They also drafted several players specifically for ST so that should be better too. One of the biggest changes is their strength and conditioning coach is new. The packers have been plagued with hamstring injuries everywhere and shoulder injuries. The reports out of camp are that he’s completely overhauled the warm up routine and given players role specific warm ups instead of a general routine and has overhauled their training to reduce injury. That should mean keeping their key players healthy and on the field. That’s huge!!!
I want to see Love do it for another season. i can't entirely trust a guy who still has to pop up on his tiptoes so often to pass. He still feels like he's ready to go off on a 4-pick day at any time. 🤣
@@cobbler88 I agree to a point. I think he did struggle with accuracy early on in the season but I also think he was throwing the ball on time in rhythm where it was supposed to go and the young receivers were constantly running the wrong routes, wrong depth. Getting the timing wrong or even straight up running into each other so it made the throws look way worse for love. He was trusting them to be there and once the receivers started to figure it out he was literally the bestQB in the league the last 6 games. As for being on his toes he is copying Rodgers motion just like Rodgers copied that from Favre. It’s not traditionally what coaches want to see but Rodgers motion was Horrible coming out of college! He held the ball by his head 100% of the time and marched the pocket like a robot. Rodger’s learned to loosen up Tom Clement’s unlocked Rodger’s talent. Love has done the same thing working with Tom and Watching Rodgers. I think Loves accuracy is actually better this last year by far throwing mid air than he was in limited snaps prior to working with Tom. He has the arm strength like Rodgers to flick it. There were many times at the end of the year I honestly felt like I was watching Rodgers play. I don’t want him to stop throwing like that. I want him to perfect it like Rodgers did. Now making bad decision is another issue lol. You can’t throw across your body to the other side of the field into double coverage EVER!
@@Pnw208 This is not really a hand-me-down motion that Rodgers learned from Favre, etc. I was in the media in Green Bay at that time. It's not exactly news that there wasn't much love between those two. And even then it was a tough sell to say that Favre could teach a young QB much of anything.
Some players are just like that. You would never coach a kid to play like Favre, throwing recklessly and keeping both teams in games deep into the 4th. And happy feet never seemed to be a bag on Rodgers.
But I'm not a Rodgers apologist. To me, he's the best of the three, but his problem was kind of the opposite of Favre's (and is why less talented QBs like Deshaun Watson and others will never accomplish anything much in the league). Rodgers was too risk averse for too long. I think he fell in love with passer ratings and the idea that he should always throw 30 more TDs than INTs. And if that meant throwing it into the dirt on 3/4 third-down attempts because things weren't just perfect, so be it.
I'm just not yet trusting that Love isn't fool's gold. I thought it was weird that he didn't get taken a little higher by a team that was more willing to give him an earlier shot when he was drafted, considering the offense he was running in college, but I'm not sure he's not another guy who some D coordinator is going to figure out and destroy with the entire league watching. Right now, being bold might just be carrying him.
Take care.
@@cobbler88That shouldn't have a bearing on their offseason grade
@@Droid6689 If the OP had limited things strictly to the off season grade, you would have a point.
But it didn't.
The subject of their offense already having been solid was brought up. That was independent from the grade. I replied and we went from there.
Regarding Sam's assertion that, the higher in the draft you are, the more likely you are to be right about a guy being a first-round talent rings true, but ignores something fairly important in that just because you are rated a "first-round guy" doesn't mean you are expected to start the next season. It's not so much a correction to what Sam said as it is a little more perspective on the nature of the first round.
I've worked in the media in major league and major D1 markets for decades. One thing I've learned - that we oddly never tell the public - is that the number of players that teams believe can step right in and contribute right away ends at around pick No. 15. It moves a little this way or that because of runs on positions, etc., but you're not expecting guys you pick up after about the halfway point of Round 1 to start the following season. It's why the Packers took Rodgers and Love at Nos. 24 and 26, respectively, rather than trading up to take them at, say, No. 8.
How it actually more or less goes is that your top 13-18 are your Tier 1 guys. Tier 2 goes from midway through Round 1 through to the beginning of Round 3.
That's why teams often have little problem trading away first-round picks for more established players when looking to upgrade, but is also why a team like the Broncos screws itself when it throws in first- AND second-rounders to get a guy like Russel Wilson.
Take care.
"Jameis gives you that Flacco run potential."
As is evident by the fact that he has thrown a total of one post season pass in his nine-year career, and that the last time he won more than two games in a row was 2019 against a slate of teams that all had losing records except for 7-7 Detroit. The last time he did it before THAT was 2016 and only one of those teams was more than one game better than .500, and that team didn't make the playoffs.
So, I guess if you need a QB capable of defeating a string of middling to poor teams, Jameis might be your guy. Or, at least, could have been five years ago.
Y’all sleeping on AOC he was the second best QB after Stroud that started 6 games or more
Atlanta f'd up big time. They could have never signed Kirk but rather paid a pentise for Fields and traded back from 8 to the 11-13 range and gotten back more draft capital than they paid for Fields. Take Fields' option even and saved tens of millions compared to paying Kirk for two years. Now, maybe they can still draft Penix or, and perhaps better, taken they're favourite edge. Less money, more picks, better pass rush (which is their biggest weakness). Seriously, let me run this team, they do better when they have a Canadian GM after all.
So it doesn't concern you that the offense would likely suck with Fields leading it?
@@cobbler88 It wouldn't. Chicago is a shithole for QB development - both coaching and weather. Coaches need to learn to work with their players skill sets and stop trying to pound a square peg into a round hole. Work with what ya got, love the one you're with.
@@bradgilbert6718 The problem is that you have to have a modicum of talent in the right places to succeed, regardless of how much they cater the system exclusively to you (which, of course, often screws things up when a back-up has to come in). Fields may just be yet another quarterback who isn't good enough to be successful in the NFL.
The "development" they always cited for Fields on PFF had to do with him running more. That's almost like saying that the punter developed because he's now a better tackler. Fields may be a very good runner, but it's not what's going to lead to a great deal of real success.
Lamar has been a great runner. All it's really accomplished is regular season success in a usually middling division. In the postseason he's got one Wild Card win, and one win over a Wild Card team in a divisional game - 3 years apart - over his six-year career. Things change when there's no tomorrow, everyone's willing to play and all the opponent has to do is put a spy on you. 🤣
I agree with playing to the strengths of your personnel, but there's also a reason no teams ever opt out of the draft because they're satisfied with just doing that.
Take care.
@@cobbler88 Agree to disagree. And you should have known that that was the best you were going to get... so bother bothering to comment in the first place. If you're so smart, why aren't you a GM? When Terry's plan backfires Arthur, if he's still alive, should give you a call. lol. Oh wait, when Terry's plan fails Arthur should give me a call.
@@bradgilbert6718 I appreciate your pretense that you're somehow clever, but it's difficult to embrace, given your folly in first employing a logical fallacy to question why I'm not X, while not seeming to realize that you're not in the position to criticize someone else for not being X because - using your own "logic" - you're not X either.
This is aside from the fact that not once did you put something out there to actually assail what I wrote, which is telling in and of itself.
Take care.
God damn, Sam is becoming worse and worse
I mean sure, its kind of a pointless exercise anyways, but grading the Browns offseason and not even mentioning Ken Dorsey or Mike Vrabel is just lazy.
Of course they shit on the browns why wouldent they
They're BROWN. What else are we supposed to do? 🤢
Sorry man, the team is fucked until they can get rid of the rapist. They dug the hole themselves.
Didn't address RB
Roster looks good.
I like the way they compiled their WR room
OT next year
Roster is good
Got Winston, with Watson they couldn't do much more at QB.
They likely won't get a great grade until they're rid of Watson and have an heir apparent.