Big tip for anyone trying to get into or expand their CSM collection: You can pickup the Eldritch Omens boxset for $155 & then sell the Eldar half for ~$100. That means you'd get a Warpsmith, Chosen *&* a Forgefiend for only around $50!! It's one of the best deals out there atm Be sure to share any other tricks of the trade if you guys got em ;)
The way you display these is SO helpful. I am a very visual person and using TTS to simulate what all the models are, and to arrange army lists and compositions is so much better than just seeing a wall of text. Really appreciated - you are awesome.
'daw, thank you so much for that :) It helps me stay on track myself, it's easy to see a certain unit & get reminded I need to touch on it! Super appreciate your comment tho, feelsgoodman
The tips for contrast I can give: -use a bright undercoat -try to only paint each area once. And only apply a second coat if needed of it fully dried. The blotchy effect could be because you apply it like a normal acrylic -Use it instead with the airbrush over a zenithal primed model. This gives instant shading and gradients. Can't recommend this enough for speed painting for a great result
You're reminding me that I need to dig up my airbrush lol, some of the best looking models I ever did were from that (fenrisian wolves of all things, it was amazing for getting the light fur going on their bellies) I still need to finish painting my Slaanesh so I'll give some of those tips a shot. I was getting aggravated because some of the colors I have are PERFECT but they kept coming out so bad - tyvm for the advice
@@fatarchon Sure no problem. Contrasts can be unforgiving if you make mistakes, as mistakes are harder to fix. I find it best to "basecoat" with them and do highlights and details with normal acrylics. Some people even use contrasts over silver to achieve different metal colors like gold. Though I never did that myself
Bro, thank you very much for the detailed guide! I just decided to build my own Alpha Legion army, and your work helped me a lot! I hope you will have a video about thematic detachment)
Blessed by the dark gods! I picked up the old 'legacy' CSM combat patrol a few months ago. I put in my pre-order for the CSM codex, new combat patrol and both of the new battleforces. My FLGS guy wasn't optimistic that he/I would be able to get the battleforces. It all came in! I have both battleforces sitting on my hobby table with the new CSM Codex. I'll be picking up the new combat patrol on my next pay day! Countdown to Night Lords! (now to finish watching this video...)
Hell yes!! Super ultra congrats, apparently you made out like a king (or better yet.. A Daemon Prince! 😜). Dude you even got the old version like holy cow what a great start. Aside from whatever you think looks cool / vehicles, might I suggest you pickup another box of Havocs? That'd let you run TWO squads with dedicated weaponry! Grab a Rhino to go with them & you'll have a great fire base to build off of going forward Congrats again man!! I'd be lying to say I wasn't jealous lol (tho I got x3 of the Start Collecting when those were a thing, so yeah I did alright :P)
New to the channel, new to CSM and have binged your videos this evening. You're unbelievably good at presenting these tricky concepts in a simple way for noobs like me. Keep it up!
Very nice guide. I absolutely love the suggestion that legionaries can be kitbashed into basically anything. I'll keep this for a reference while I build my army. One modeling suggestion that I'm using: If you can get old marines on discount (second hand, trades, or you're retiring your Firstborn) and use them as freshly corrupted marines, while you use a legionarie as the Aspiring Champion of the unit that's leading them down the dark path. I'll do the same to let me reflavor my Death Company as Khornate Raptors. That said, magnetizing infantry sounds like a pain in the ass. I'd probably suggest just building what feels 'right' for you and trying to make it work in future metas. But that's just me.
I'm big on having unique looking units so that's a great suggestion! I might share it in the future :) & yeah, magnetizing isn't for everyone - I'm sort of old skool with that from how the loadouts were up until recently hah
I loved this video. As someone still fairly new to 40k, having only played a single game ever but mostly just collecting and painting, having the models visually represented really helped me understand the difference between them. Really clever use of tabletop simulator! Only thing is I had to slow the video down to 0.75x speed as you talk FAST 😂
I can't help it I get excited when talking about CSM!! Lmao Glad you found it useful & I'm glad you were able to adjust the speed :P If you want a good chuckle, speed *up* the video & I sound almost exactly like Ben Shapiro. Someone brought it up for one of my vids once & I couldn't stop laughing
For contrast paints few tips. One, its shit for panels/bigger flat sections. 2 its fucking amazing on drybrushed areas with lots of raised edges and depth (capes, hair, fur, faces, muscles, skin, wings). Use it directly from the pot basically. Minor dilution with water but not much. Any areas that seep too much try to just pull them to other areas and if you have everythingcovered Just wet your brush, dry it on a paper towel (just a quick touch) and touch the pooling area and you're good.
have dead talons and veterans of the long war pre ordered to make a new nightlords army....i got a ton of painting to do starting next Saturday lol. Super lucky to get them at my local game store ,that was a chaotic launch in the wrong ways.
I can chime in a little bit with the contrast paints! First off, do pieces bit by bit, smaller sections produce better results. I mix my contrast 2:1:1 with water and contrast medium on my wet pallet. This thins it enough that I can do two thin coats of the stuff. Also let it dry completely before applying the second coat and don't play with the drying paint. Less is more sometimes, so if you over apply contrast it will pool to the bottom of the mini. If you do overapply the contrast before it starts to dry, you can soak some of it up with a clean brush. Thinning the contrast paints well will help prevent pooling. So painting smoothly and quickly each panel will help with at as well. Also Contrast Paint behaves weird compared to other paints. Separates easily, so I added a glass bead to each bottle when I get it. Also different contrasts have different levels of coverage which is a learning curve. If you don't want to use them as a paint you can water them down with pure water to turn them into a glaze instead. Now for large flat surfaces contrast doesn't work that well unless you're using a airbrush, which is fine but it acts more like a traditional paint then. Contrast works well with slap chop or zenithal highlights. In my case I am using contrast over metallic to get that alpha legion bluish metal look. JuanHidalgo Miniatures and Warhipster both had some really good videos going over everything I just mentioned.
Dude! Thank you so much for all this, legit I'm going to give it a shot with my Slaanesh. They've been driving me up the wall with my normal method but they seem perfect for using Contrasts. I did *finally* learn to mix with Contrast Medium that I tried out the other day & it worked great for their skin but then when I tried doing their cloaks & whatnot I didn't water it down at all so it ended up waaay too splotchy. I think I'm going to re-base paint them & give your tips a shot. CSM I feel are perfect for dry brushing (at least for my own tastes! I like the 'dirty' look for my Chaos :P) but Daemons & the sort are too detailed for that sort of style. It's funny you mentioned Slap Chop too. I've heard of it before but never really looked into it, you mentioning it now I'm watching tutorials & it looks like a fun trick to try! lol Appreciate the advice, if I can find a way to make painting Slaanesh fun I would be ecstatic hah
@@fatarchon I appreciate it! I also wanted to mention that all Slapchop is basically dry brushing a undercoat for your contrast paints. So your earlier recommendation about drybrushing is still very accurate. This works because contrast paint is really transparent compared to normal paints, so it assumes you paint it over white. But with slap chop, black is in the recesses, most of the model is greyish, and the tips and highlights of things are white. This means the pigment in the contrast will be "covered up" by the black undercoat, while the white will express the real color of the contrast. In my case I am using a zenithal highlight of silver over magnesium and washing the bottom half of my model dark to get a shading with the reflectiveness of the metal. Lastly is I am really excited to do my next set of Alpha Legion models and I got some dark mud wash I am excited to hit their feet and cloaks with. Even that is enough so while they don't look factory new anymore, they keep a polished metal look while picking up some grime from the ground.
Woot, you're exactly the kind of player this channel's meant for so tyvm for the kind words!! Alpha Legion are looking really fun this edition too so you picked well :P
Listening while finishing up my older Combat Patrol. I really really want to play demons. But This seems to be a good way to slowly buy those greater demons instead of trying to get a bunch at once.
That's exactly how I started my own Daemons, I had DG at first then started slowly building up my Nurgle allies & now I have a huge collection of all of them lol. Don't forget you need a battleline for each other Daemon unit but luckily those are still *the* cheapest kits GW sells!
@@fatarchon I’d bought some Blue Horrors on discount awhile ago, been meaning to add some pinks. I bought the Maggotkin box a couple of months back so I have a unit of Plaguebearers and Spoilpox Scivener. The Khorne Demon Boarding Patrol has been in my pile of shame for a bit. If I had watched this video I’d had the combat patrol. lol. So I’m slowly getting to a greater demon. I think definitely going to get some Nurglings and a Remaster next.
Sounds like you're on the right track, that's a great base to work off of & gives you access to pretty much any GD you want. It'd be hard to decide which to get first lol, I'd prolly lean towards a GUO but actually, for a 1st pick maybe it'd be better to go with something a bit flashier like a Bloodthirster so it's whole gameplan isn't just sitting on an objective 😜 Obviously just go with whatever YOU like most, the meta changes every couple months do who knows how they'll shuffle around eventually
This video is ridiculously helpful. I just wanna share that the idea of magnetising, whilst highly recommended, it is terrible if you aren't organised. Bits management is real. I just pay the ADHD tax and buy more boxes. Less stressful for me.
Hey now! I'm not organized either, I just leave all their accessories in piles for when I need them 😜granted if I could afford extra kits instead I'd go that route lol
Cool video. I don't really care about the competitive scene at this moment; way more interested in narrative & cool-factor, so this video is much appreciated. I just started a CSM army, my first in many years. Started with a box of Legionaries + the Chaos Lord & Renegade Guardsmen squad from Blackstone Fortress. I really want to bring in a War Dog to this list. Saw the box on the shelf and they look so damn iconic. The idea of several light knights tearing thru the city to support heavily armed foot soldiers just sounds amazing. Obviously, War Dogs don't benefit from some CSM-specific faction rules. My question is, what would you recommend I look at building if I was to only get 1 kit? I'm really aiming to stay at 1000 - 1250pt games for awhile. Thanks for this video, awesome presentation!
Appreciate the kind words! I'm big on comp play but I'd say fluffy / FUN games are still my favorite kind of matches, naturally 😜 Nothing beats putting together an army list that just looks badass or has a flavorful theme For the War Dog, that's one of the more fun aspects of Chaos - being able to mix & match between all the armies. Chaos Knights make a great ally though & they're fairly popular across all the Chaos armies tbh. Personally I'd probably look at the Brigands, they're completely self sufficient with their BS2 & having exceptional AP with their ability. They're anti-everything too so work great with smaller lists as they shore up both AT & anti-inf. Karnivores are great too but not as much when allied as they don't get the move thru walls strat. My honest advice though would be to magnetize them!! Tbh I'm bit even sure you have to drill I think you could just glue magnets to the joints between the arm + weapons, that'd give you access to every variant 😎 But yeah if I had to pick one it'd most likely be Brigands!
Well go ahead & pat yourself on the back while you're at it because that's one of the best battleforces out there :P I already own all those models but I *still* wanted to get a box lol Great choice with Word Bearers too, they're one of my favorites. Lorgar is awesome (I don't care what some people say!). I should have a Pactbound Zealots tactica up in the next week it so too but again congrats man
I have an opened but new on sprue wrath and rapture box still :) I started with orks. Started deathguard and then csm as my second army (allies at the time) then they took allies away for a while and I sold most of my csm. That was a mistake. Now o want to b hold an emperors children army and have to start buying stuff over again
Whaaa! I bet there's only like, a handful of those on the planet lol. I still have the box + I used the little poster thingy it came with on my shelf hah
Are chaos bikes no good? Didnt see them on here, i thought they might be ok for quick flanking/scoring? Asking as a total noob, whose bought veterans of the long war, and never played before! Thank you for your great video :)
Bikes are perfectly valid! You're probably not going to see too many content creators speaking highly of them (for the near term) because they technically caught a nerf from the Index - they used to go back into reserves which is super powerful But! If they stay at ~75pt (which I see no reason they wouldn't) then yeah they're totally fine. 9W T5 with the S5 melee is very efficient for the cost, toss on the 12" movement + Meltas & you're cookin' Where I think they'll especially shine though is Renegade Raiders. Those guys loooove their Mounted so you have a bunch of ways to buff or run plays with them. I bet Felhammer Siegehost would get really good value out of them too They are competing directly with Raptors & Warp Talons but they're cheaper & tougher. The trade off is not being able to Deepstrike or move thru walls But yeah man, they aren't 'top level' or anything but they aren't anywhere near bad in the least. They won't hurt your list by bringing them :)
Now that they can't go back into reserves they've lost most of their utility. I think we'll still see them because of how cheap they are (+ Renegades can make us of them) but sadly they're going to be one of those units you cut first when changing up the list
Dumb question... Can I pay a greater unclean 1 with my death guard list? The army builder app, newrecruit, won't allow majority of demons to be attached. Is it a design issue or could I run a list with Mortarion and greater unclean 1, or Rotigus even? Maybe I'm confused, skipped over some rule, or something else 😅 Please help
You can indeed! You just have to bring a Nurgle Battleline unit for each other Daemon you bring along. Luckily Nurgle is spoiled because we have Nurglings, so yeah just toss in x1 Nurglings + x1 GUO & you're golden :) If you want to bring more you'd have to bring another set of Nurglings first & you can only have up to 500pt of Daemons in total Hope that helps!! Edit: you could also bring Plaguebearers instead of Nurglings if you wanted! Rotigus is a great choice too if you wanted him instead of a GUO
Big tip for anyone trying to get into or expand their CSM collection: You can pickup the Eldritch Omens boxset for $155 & then sell the Eldar half for ~$100. That means you'd get a Warpsmith, Chosen *&* a Forgefiend for only around $50!! It's one of the best deals out there atm
Be sure to share any other tricks of the trade if you guys got em ;)
Fucking genius, Just got the box for 120 and gonna sell the eldar bits lol. I might buy it twice even idk lmao
120?! Goddamn dude, even I'd buy 2 lol. Congrats!
The way you display these is SO helpful. I am a very visual person and using TTS to simulate what all the models are, and to arrange army lists and compositions is so much better than just seeing a wall of text. Really appreciated - you are awesome.
'daw, thank you so much for that :) It helps me stay on track myself, it's easy to see a certain unit & get reminded I need to touch on it!
Super appreciate your comment tho, feelsgoodman
The tips for contrast I can give:
-use a bright undercoat
-try to only paint each area once. And only apply a second coat if needed of it fully dried. The blotchy effect could be because you apply it like a normal acrylic
-Use it instead with the airbrush over a zenithal primed model. This gives instant shading and gradients. Can't recommend this enough for speed painting for a great result
You're reminding me that I need to dig up my airbrush lol, some of the best looking models I ever did were from that (fenrisian wolves of all things, it was amazing for getting the light fur going on their bellies)
I still need to finish painting my Slaanesh so I'll give some of those tips a shot. I was getting aggravated because some of the colors I have are PERFECT but they kept coming out so bad - tyvm for the advice
@@fatarchon Sure no problem. Contrasts can be unforgiving if you make mistakes, as mistakes are harder to fix. I find it best to "basecoat" with them and do highlights and details with normal acrylics.
Some people even use contrasts over silver to achieve different metal colors like gold. Though I never did that myself
Bro, thank you very much for the detailed guide!
I just decided to build my own Alpha Legion army, and your work helped me a lot!
I hope you will have a video about thematic detachment)
Blessed by the dark gods! I picked up the old 'legacy' CSM combat patrol a few months ago. I put in my pre-order for the CSM codex, new combat patrol and both of the new battleforces. My FLGS guy wasn't optimistic that he/I would be able to get the battleforces. It all came in! I have both battleforces sitting on my hobby table with the new CSM Codex. I'll be picking up the new combat patrol on my next pay day! Countdown to Night Lords! (now to finish watching this video...)
Hell yes!! Super ultra congrats, apparently you made out like a king (or better yet.. A Daemon Prince! 😜). Dude you even got the old version like holy cow what a great start. Aside from whatever you think looks cool / vehicles, might I suggest you pickup another box of Havocs? That'd let you run TWO squads with dedicated weaponry! Grab a Rhino to go with them & you'll have a great fire base to build off of going forward
Congrats again man!! I'd be lying to say I wasn't jealous lol (tho I got x3 of the Start Collecting when those were a thing, so yeah I did alright :P)
Love these csm videos thank you man
New to the channel, new to CSM and have binged your videos this evening. You're unbelievably good at presenting these tricky concepts in a simple way for noobs like me. Keep it up!
Oh dang, what a good compliment! Appreciate the comment friend, hoping to get some new videos up soon 😎
Got my FLG's last veterans of the long war box today at a very good price. Excited for CSM this edition.
Woot, congrats!! Yeah FLG are the best chance for those boxsets & VotLW is one of the top ones to get for CSM
Very nice guide. I absolutely love the suggestion that legionaries can be kitbashed into basically anything. I'll keep this for a reference while I build my army.
One modeling suggestion that I'm using: If you can get old marines on discount (second hand, trades, or you're retiring your Firstborn) and use them as freshly corrupted marines, while you use a legionarie as the Aspiring Champion of the unit that's leading them down the dark path. I'll do the same to let me reflavor my Death Company as Khornate Raptors.
That said, magnetizing infantry sounds like a pain in the ass. I'd probably suggest just building what feels 'right' for you and trying to make it work in future metas. But that's just me.
I'm big on having unique looking units so that's a great suggestion! I might share it in the future :) & yeah, magnetizing isn't for everyone - I'm sort of old skool with that from how the loadouts were up until recently hah
I loved this video. As someone still fairly new to 40k, having only played a single game ever but mostly just collecting and painting, having the models visually represented really helped me understand the difference between them. Really clever use of tabletop simulator! Only thing is I had to slow the video down to 0.75x speed as you talk FAST 😂
I can't help it I get excited when talking about CSM!! Lmao
Glad you found it useful & I'm glad you were able to adjust the speed :P
If you want a good chuckle, speed *up* the video & I sound almost exactly like Ben Shapiro. Someone brought it up for one of my vids once & I couldn't stop laughing
Just made the swap to CSM this vid was greatly appreciated you’ve gained yourself a follower!
For contrast paints few tips. One, its shit for panels/bigger flat sections. 2 its fucking amazing on drybrushed areas with lots of raised edges and depth (capes, hair, fur, faces, muscles, skin, wings).
Use it directly from the pot basically. Minor dilution with water but not much. Any areas that seep too much try to just pull them to other areas and if you have everythingcovered Just wet your brush, dry it on a paper towel (just a quick touch) and touch the pooling area and you're good.
have dead talons and veterans of the long war pre ordered to make a new nightlords army....i got a ton of painting to do starting next Saturday lol. Super lucky to get them at my local game store ,that was a chaotic launch in the wrong ways.
Hell yes, congrats! Local stores was (& still is) probably the best way to get them
I can chime in a little bit with the contrast paints!
First off, do pieces bit by bit, smaller sections produce better results. I mix my contrast 2:1:1 with water and contrast medium on my wet pallet. This thins it enough that I can do two thin coats of the stuff. Also let it dry completely before applying the second coat and don't play with the drying paint. Less is more sometimes, so if you over apply contrast it will pool to the bottom of the mini. If you do overapply the contrast before it starts to dry, you can soak some of it up with a clean brush. Thinning the contrast paints well will help prevent pooling. So painting smoothly and quickly each panel will help with at as well.
Also Contrast Paint behaves weird compared to other paints. Separates easily, so I added a glass bead to each bottle when I get it. Also different contrasts have different levels of coverage which is a learning curve. If you don't want to use them as a paint you can water them down with pure water to turn them into a glaze instead.
Now for large flat surfaces contrast doesn't work that well unless you're using a airbrush, which is fine but it acts more like a traditional paint then. Contrast works well with slap chop or zenithal highlights. In my case I am using contrast over metallic to get that alpha legion bluish metal look. JuanHidalgo Miniatures and Warhipster both had some really good videos going over everything I just mentioned.
Dude! Thank you so much for all this, legit I'm going to give it a shot with my Slaanesh. They've been driving me up the wall with my normal method but they seem perfect for using Contrasts. I did *finally* learn to mix with Contrast Medium that I tried out the other day & it worked great for their skin but then when I tried doing their cloaks & whatnot I didn't water it down at all so it ended up waaay too splotchy. I think I'm going to re-base paint them & give your tips a shot.
CSM I feel are perfect for dry brushing (at least for my own tastes! I like the 'dirty' look for my Chaos :P) but Daemons & the sort are too detailed for that sort of style. It's funny you mentioned Slap Chop too. I've heard of it before but never really looked into it, you mentioning it now I'm watching tutorials & it looks like a fun trick to try! lol
Appreciate the advice, if I can find a way to make painting Slaanesh fun I would be ecstatic hah
@@fatarchon I appreciate it! I also wanted to mention that all Slapchop is basically dry brushing a undercoat for your contrast paints. So your earlier recommendation about drybrushing is still very accurate.
This works because contrast paint is really transparent compared to normal paints, so it assumes you paint it over white. But with slap chop, black is in the recesses, most of the model is greyish, and the tips and highlights of things are white. This means the pigment in the contrast will be "covered up" by the black undercoat, while the white will express the real color of the contrast. In my case I am using a zenithal highlight of silver over magnesium and washing the bottom half of my model dark to get a shading with the reflectiveness of the metal.
Lastly is I am really excited to do my next set of Alpha Legion models and I got some dark mud wash I am excited to hit their feet and cloaks with. Even that is enough so while they don't look factory new anymore, they keep a polished metal look while picking up some grime from the ground.
I've been looking to get into the hobby and start a NL/Alpha legion army, your channel is a (chaos)godsent!
Woot, you're exactly the kind of player this channel's meant for so tyvm for the kind words!! Alpha Legion are looking really fun this edition too so you picked well :P
Listening while finishing up my older Combat Patrol. I really really want to play demons. But This seems to be a good way to slowly buy those greater demons instead of trying to get a bunch at once.
That's exactly how I started my own Daemons, I had DG at first then started slowly building up my Nurgle allies & now I have a huge collection of all of them lol. Don't forget you need a battleline for each other Daemon unit but luckily those are still *the* cheapest kits GW sells!
@@fatarchon I’d bought some Blue Horrors on discount awhile ago, been meaning to add some pinks. I bought the Maggotkin box a couple of months back so I have a unit of Plaguebearers and Spoilpox Scivener. The Khorne Demon Boarding Patrol has been in my pile of shame for a bit. If I had watched this video I’d had the combat patrol. lol. So I’m slowly getting to a greater demon. I think definitely going to get some Nurglings and a Remaster next.
Sounds like you're on the right track, that's a great base to work off of & gives you access to pretty much any GD you want. It'd be hard to decide which to get first lol, I'd prolly lean towards a GUO but actually, for a 1st pick maybe it'd be better to go with something a bit flashier like a Bloodthirster so it's whole gameplan isn't just sitting on an objective 😜 Obviously just go with whatever YOU like most, the meta changes every couple months do who knows how they'll shuffle around eventually
Seems like I have been incredibly lucky - I will recieve both new boxes on 25th from a local store and they also granted a reeeally great discount. 😮
This video is ridiculously helpful. I just wanna share that the idea of magnetising, whilst highly recommended, it is terrible if you aren't organised. Bits management is real. I just pay the ADHD tax and buy more boxes. Less stressful for me.
Hey now! I'm not organized either, I just leave all their accessories in piles for when I need them 😜granted if I could afford extra kits instead I'd go that route lol
Cool video. I don't really care about the competitive scene at this moment; way more interested in narrative & cool-factor, so this video is much appreciated. I just started a CSM army, my first in many years. Started with a box of Legionaries + the Chaos Lord & Renegade Guardsmen squad from Blackstone Fortress.
I really want to bring in a War Dog to this list. Saw the box on the shelf and they look so damn iconic. The idea of several light knights tearing thru the city to support heavily armed foot soldiers just sounds amazing. Obviously, War Dogs don't benefit from some CSM-specific faction rules. My question is, what would you recommend I look at building if I was to only get 1 kit? I'm really aiming to stay at 1000 - 1250pt games for awhile.
Thanks for this video, awesome presentation!
Appreciate the kind words! I'm big on comp play but I'd say fluffy / FUN games are still my favorite kind of matches, naturally 😜 Nothing beats putting together an army list that just looks badass or has a flavorful theme
For the War Dog, that's one of the more fun aspects of Chaos - being able to mix & match between all the armies. Chaos Knights make a great ally though & they're fairly popular across all the Chaos armies tbh. Personally I'd probably look at the Brigands, they're completely self sufficient with their BS2 & having exceptional AP with their ability. They're anti-everything too so work great with smaller lists as they shore up both AT & anti-inf. Karnivores are great too but not as much when allied as they don't get the move thru walls strat. My honest advice though would be to magnetize them!! Tbh I'm bit even sure you have to drill I think you could just glue magnets to the joints between the arm + weapons, that'd give you access to every variant 😎 But yeah if I had to pick one it'd most likely be Brigands!
24:28 "every army needs atleast 1 squad of cultists"
Press S to spit boys!
Here I am, as requested, gloating that I got a Veterans of the Long War box to start my CSM army - going Word Bearers!
Well go ahead & pat yourself on the back while you're at it because that's one of the best battleforces out there :P I already own all those models but I *still* wanted to get a box lol
Great choice with Word Bearers too, they're one of my favorites. Lorgar is awesome (I don't care what some people say!). I should have a Pactbound Zealots tactica up in the next week it so too but again congrats man
I have an opened but new on sprue wrath and rapture box still :)
I started with orks.
Started deathguard and then csm as my second army (allies at the time) then they took allies away for a while and I sold most of my csm. That was a mistake. Now o want to b hold an emperors children army and have to start buying stuff over again
Whaaa! I bet there's only like, a handful of those on the planet lol. I still have the box + I used the little poster thingy it came with on my shelf hah
Are chaos bikes no good? Didnt see them on here, i thought they might be ok for quick flanking/scoring?
Asking as a total noob, whose bought veterans of the long war, and never played before!
Thank you for your great video :)
Bikes are perfectly valid! You're probably not going to see too many content creators speaking highly of them (for the near term) because they technically caught a nerf from the Index - they used to go back into reserves which is super powerful
But! If they stay at ~75pt (which I see no reason they wouldn't) then yeah they're totally fine. 9W T5 with the S5 melee is very efficient for the cost, toss on the 12" movement + Meltas & you're cookin'
Where I think they'll especially shine though is Renegade Raiders. Those guys loooove their Mounted so you have a bunch of ways to buff or run plays with them. I bet Felhammer Siegehost would get really good value out of them too
They are competing directly with Raptors & Warp Talons but they're cheaper & tougher. The trade off is not being able to Deepstrike or move thru walls
But yeah man, they aren't 'top level' or anything but they aren't anywhere near bad in the least. They won't hurt your list by bringing them :)
@fatarchon what an epic detailed reply!
Really appreciate you taking the time to do so!
Thanks, Fat A :)
Whats your opinion on the new bikes? I still think 75 points for 2 meltas and 9 wounds isnt bad
Now that they can't go back into reserves they've lost most of their utility. I think we'll still see them because of how cheap they are (+ Renegades can make us of them) but sadly they're going to be one of those units you cut first when changing up the list
Great work again :)
Appreciate ya brother! 😘
@@fatarchon we appreciate youre work my guy 💪🫶
Have one dread talons box available locally 15% off msrp. Guess i should grab it quick before it goes?
Dumb question...
Can I pay a greater unclean 1 with my death guard list?
The army builder app, newrecruit, won't allow majority of demons to be attached.
Is it a design issue or could I run a list with Mortarion and greater unclean 1, or Rotigus even?
Maybe I'm confused, skipped over some rule, or something else 😅
Please help
You can indeed! You just have to bring a Nurgle Battleline unit for each other Daemon you bring along. Luckily Nurgle is spoiled because we have Nurglings, so yeah just toss in x1 Nurglings + x1 GUO & you're golden :) If you want to bring more you'd have to bring another set of Nurglings first & you can only have up to 500pt of Daemons in total
Hope that helps!!
Edit: you could also bring Plaguebearers instead of Nurglings if you wanted! Rotigus is a great choice too if you wanted him instead of a GUO
Great video so far-is the title an accident haha?
Lmao, YT studio keeps messing up & won't let me save changes... I think I fixed it tho :P
Yeah I’ve refreshed it and title looks right now!