Thinkpad T14 Gen 3 Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
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Timestamps: -
0:00:00 - Intro
0:01:39 - Specs
0:02:28 - Externals
0:03:08 - Ports
0:04:11 - Opening Up
0:04:41 - Deck
0:05:05 - Trackpad
0:05:53 - Keyboard
0:06:46 - Speakers
0:07:25 - Screen
0:08:09 - Webcam and Windows Hello
0:08:53 - Internals
0:09:24 - Performance
0:11:05 - Gaming
0:11:57 - Battery Life
0:12:39 - PSU and Charging Options
0:13:10 - Conclusion
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thank you, i got the prepetual version, i hope they will be like this forever and not change like drawboard!
I've watched several videos about T14's, and your presentation is by far the best. Clear and concise.
As someone who discovered you back during the T14 Gen 1 review, happy to see things come full circle back to the gen 3. I purchased a T14 gen 1 amd based on your review and have been happy with it ever since, glad to see the Gen 3 step it up in every category
Haha thanks for sticking along for the ride! I really love the t14 laptops, they are an amazing price to performance laptop
And now I am waiting for the T14 gen 4 so I can upgrade to it, I wonder how much of a performance difference will it have compared to the gen 1 and gen 3 (AMD variants ofc)
I just love your presentation style . So easy to watch you review things . Normally I get irritated by people but you're style is easy to listen to bro
Thank you so much for the kind words :)
@@MashITTechwelcome & those weren't just words it's the truth .
T14 is the whole package that I always dreamed of. For someone who browse for a thin & light PC with medium performance, that's the one. Lenovo really brought AMD's advantages IMO. Thank You for your great review. I think I can afford it in the next year lol
Glad you enjoyed it and yes it really is! I am loving using it and can't get over how good the 6850u and 680m are whilst never getting hot or loud! being able to play Apex on integrated gfx is something I never thought would be possible. My only gripe is the webcams mic really isn't the best quality
Great review! Just picked up one of these at MicroCenter for 799.99 USD ( Intel 1245u, 16GB RAM Soldered on and expanded it with another 16GB total of 32GB, 512GB, and 1080p IR webcam) and I'm really enjoying the purchase. Would have preferred the AMD variant but for the price it was hard to turn down. Already have a 5950X 64GB 6900XT custom built desktop so I'll survive... for now until I can upgrade to AM5.
Thank you so much for this absolute banger of a review. Answered all my questions and a few more that I hadn't considered. Also my man plays Dota, that's sick dude.
Haha thanks mate
Im using this one since september 2022 and this is one of the best laptop i've ever had.
Great review. Very thorough and well presented.
excellent review as always!!!
Great review, wish it was available in my region as it really covers my needs
Excellent review! Thank you!
Thanks for the review. Great efforts
i like you acknowledging your humble beginnings
Haha very humble, it’s pretty painful watching 😂
I have a T16 at work, and I really like the finish more than my X1 Nano. It's not as soft or premium feeling, but it does not show fingerprints and other marks nearly as much.
I cannot find any review for T16. Does it have the same crappy mic as on this video?
Nice review! 👍
Excellent review, bought this machine on the strength of it - and it's a goldilocks machine :) good size and weight, excellent screen, nice keyboard, runs smooth, cool and quiet, battery lasts all day. Thank you!
Edit: As you mentioned in the review, it shows far less fingerprints than previous models.
Great to hear you are enjoying it! it is a really amazing machine, I am surprised more people didn't cover it
How about the mic, is it really bad like in the video? I hope that it's just a unit defect, because everything looks great for this laptop.
Thanks for sharing~❤️
I have the t14s gen 3 amd with a 6850u. With the same 400 nit display. Only got it over the t14 because of thunderbolt 4. Been using it a lot lately I really like it🦕
I nearly chose the T14s for the same reason but I wanted the ethernet port and slightly higher wattage the T14 gets. I had to be honest with myself that I would never use an EGPU outside of making a RUclips video 🤣
@@MashITTech The t14 should also have better cooling than the t14s, the vents are a lot bigger. You can probably get a lot better performance over the t14s if you overclock the t14
@@MashITTech I somehow got a slightly better timespy score so the wattage difference probably doesnt have much effect
look at all of those ports 😀😍
haha I remember the day when having an abundance of ports was considered normal 😂
Wow! Very good review! Thanks and waiting compare T14 vs T14s.
Thank for your amazing review and your wonderful channel. We are looking for Thinkpad P14 Gen 3, because I looked in youtube, there is not something solid and authentic review as you do.
Thank you for your kind words :)
i do love a ThinkPad keyboard, but the X17 is just next level
We have a few intel 1165G7s in the office, and they run incredibly hot, and throttle down all the time with very poor battery life. The constant fan noise is very annoying too. We also have a few Ryzen 5800Us and they run cool, quite and have great battery life. The intel laptops may have a higher single core score on paper, but in reality they slow down as soon as you have a few apps running. I have noticed that OneDrive is really pushing the intel laptops to heat up, especially when it starts to sync.
So what do u suggest next..
Which would be ur preferred choice then?
Which model
Still miss my old T23 !
I‘m still using the T14s AMD Gen1 since two years now - perfect notebook for business.
Gen3 (full spec) seems to be my next one.
In your opinion: what‘s an alternative to the Gen3 AMD?
I bought the first model: T14 Gen 1 (type 20S1) Laptop (ThinkPad) with 10TH GEN Intel i5 processor and increased the RAM to 16 GB and it is very fast, excellent value for money.
If the T14 was a person, it would be "clean cut nice and reliable guy". Not flashy like the HP Dragonfly G3, but solid all around. Clean looks, durable, and good performance based on similar CPUs/RAM/SSD.
Love watching you vids, they are always so helpful. Any chance you'd review the Corsair voyager gaming laptop?
Thank you, I will see if I can get one in 👍
Thanks for the review, video as always fire🔥If possible compare it with MacBook on Apple M1/M2 processor in video rendering
Great video, very infomative. Just a little bit disapointed that this laptop doesn't support USB 4 despite running a Ryzen 6000 series cpu
Yes it is annoying they have deliberately left it out to push people to the more expensive T14s :(
Lovely vid like always. Love to see you getting the sponsors. Waiting for the other video as well! ❤️😈
Thank you! And yes the sponsorship is really helping us to afford more laptops to review! Spent the whole of today benchmarking the Legion 7, loving it so far
@@MashITTech good to hear that my brother.. can't wait for the video. When can I expect the video to be online?
I have a crazy week and benching, testing and filming takes a while so I expect Friday/Saturday in all honesty
@@MashITTech Ahhh, I was expecting it to be released somewhere near Monday - Wednesday but no problem. Just do me a solid and if possible try to do the video rendering on it in 4K to see how well it performs. Will he waiting for the video! Cheers 🥂
Got a T14 G1 Ryzen pro 5 4650u. Is it worth upgrading to the G3 with the new screen and the Ryzen 7 6850u? What do you think?
I only do dev work on my machine.
Man, the number of hours I've spent playing FTL using the TrackPoint on my T430...
May I ask if this laptop has Thunderbolt ports? Like, can you off-load the GPU work to an eGPU and keep the laptop nice, cool, and unthrottled?
Edit: oh I see, near the end of the video you mentioned the T14 S will give you ports, something fast enough for eGPUs, got it. Thank you!!
Some of my favorite games are Arma 3, which is so ancient that the code is very much single-core dependent. But thanks to your explainer it seems like going with Intel have draw backs too. So if we mainly treat this as a productivity PC--no gaming--Ryzen could be quite amazing over Intel.
I have been stuck with my Lenovo 14 inch Zhaoyang E42-80 with Intel i5 6267U. This one is probably my next upgrade.
Thanks for the splendid review! Gotta love proper notebooks with a real Ethernet port. Did you test Windows Hello under different lighting conditions? On my X1 Yoga Gen 6 it works fine inside a room, but fails miserably under even slightly more complex lighting conditions, especially outside, when sitting in the car, etc.
Ah, let me test that! I have tested it around my house including a well lit kitchen and a low light lounge with no issues. Will try it outside and with different lighting
@@MashITTech No worries, I guess you live in the UK and not on the Seychelles, so the weather probably doesn't inspire outside use all that much this time of year. 😋
Would be great if you could check it out if you get a chance, though. 😊👍
Lol now I am jealous, it’s miserable here as always, we have had about 2 weeks with rain
Would this be a worth it upgrade coming from a MacBook Pro 16 2019?
OMG, this Page Up/Page Down key placement. I'm getting flashbacks.
What's the difference between the Gen 2 and Gen 3 versions?
My local dealer only has the cheap E and L series models with rubber like coating. How is the T14 paint / coating?
Hi i'm interested in the exact laptop, should I get an 16gb ram version or 32gb ram?
Great review 🙂Wonder how well it would work with Fedora...
So I have a question, if you had to choose between a Asus ROG strix scar 15, a msi ge66/67 raider or the Razer blade 17 which would you choose? They are all the latest models and both the msi and Razer have Intel i7 12 gen, while the strix is Intel i9 12 gen.
I haven’t got my hands on a scar 15 yet but it looks like a good option. I love the razer blade 17 with the 240hz qhd or 4K and it would by my choice but I just can’t justify the razer pricing! Ge66/67 are also good options, I guess a lot comes down to price in your region and what screen option you have?
i still got the got the t14 gen 1 amd version and I bought it because of your review. still a beast when it comes to performance.
Yep, its a great machine still! I will always have a fondness for that laptop!
Hi David，Do you think 1900*1200 is good enough to display for the T14s gen3 R7? I was so confused about it😅 Thanks for the advice 😊
As long as you get the 400nit version yes! The 400 nit version has great brightness and colours and 1200p looks good at 14"
Does anyone knows if the T14 Gen 3 can be upgraded to 2.8K oled screen and the part number?
Can you use it for light editing (premier pro full hd)?
Looking for a laptop - either the yoga 7 you reviewed - or this - what would be the main reason for picking one over the other ? Is there a big difference ? Thanks
Which yoga 7? (I have reviewed a couple) the 7i pro X or the 2in1 7?
I dont understand why ThinkPad doesn't want to go with a high refresh rate screen. I know they are not gaming laptops, but some of them have more than enough power to game on
Yup 90 or 100hz would be so welcome by today standards...
incredible review 5/5 thats all i can say
thank you, that is really kind of you
Thanks for the review! I have a question I'm hoping you can help me answer. Can you connect an external monitor via usb-c with the Ryzen chip?
yes you sure can the USBc carries display port signal :)
Really helpful review - a question: what's your view on the Thinkpad T16 which seems to have the same internals but a larger screen and number pad? (and is very similarly priced)
Yes, I nearly ordered the T16, it looks like a great option if you want a bigger screen, I personally was after a machine I could throw in a bag and take everywhere so I went 14"
I have the T15 and in my opinion it has the perfect size.
As an update and, I hope, helpful to others - I bought the T16 on a fantastic deal; it actually worked out cheaper than the T14! I am delighted. My requirements are that a laptop has to be as quiet as possible, have decent battery life, good keyboard and sharp (preferably high res) screen. My usage is mostly writing and research and a little photo editing on ON1. This has led me in the last few months to try out: Spectre 16 (slow and heavy, fan noise), Asus Zenbook pro flip 15 (sent back because of 2 faults), LG Gram 16 (12th gen meant fan almost always on vs 11th gen which was mostly silent) and then Macbook Pro 14 (brilliant, but just didn't run the research and writing software as well as on windows). Last despairing throw of the dice was T16 and I'm astonished by how good it is - the availability of the 86wh battery in the AMD version finally swung me towards it. For my usage, it is absolutely silent. The 2560x1600 screen is beautiful. Performance is snappy and responsive. Battery life feels like it's at Macbook Pro levels - in every day use, I just don't need to think about battery or power as it goes on and on. Right now I'm looking at 77% battery power left - 11hr 21min! The keyboard is fantastic; I know many have complained about the decreased key travel on modern Thinkpads, but I don't notice a difference. If I were to be critical, it would be that the speakers are a wee bit tinny, but perfectly adequate for video conferencing and the camera is OK, not brilliant. In summary, I am very picky about my work machine (especially regarding the issue of fan noise) and I am delighted with the T16. For me, it is as close to the perfect laptop as I've ever experienced. Hope this is helpful!
Great Review, I hope they release a native version with linux.
You can configure it without windows which is handy. Is there a version of Linux you want me to test?
@@MashITTech thank for your attention! I would like to see Pop!_os🚀
I want to test a faster ssd anyway so will test pop at the same time
@@MashITTech please test with Fedora(for working) and steamOs(for gaming)
*as a side note, i believe that none of oem or laptop company will release their hardware without windows.. Its something about agreement and discounts i guess
Leave it with me. If I get time I sure will. Lenovo do let you buy without windows and I often do (it’s about a £90 saving in the U.K.) but Lenovo had an offer of pro upgrade for free so I chose it
Hi, could you give me a picture of the sim card tray?
Of all the thinkpads, which is ur favourite
that notebook throttles even when I open 5 tabs on chrome i bet it will blow up if I game on it
What on the ryzen model? Mine didn’t throttle at all!
Great video! Is the chassis all magnesium like that of T14s gen 3?
It feels a lot more premium than last years T14. I can't tell if it is completely magnesium and I can't find any information anywhere either way
@@MashITTech thanks. I took a look at its PSREF and researched a bit. Seems like the bottom and the palm rest are made of magnesium. Other parts use plastic but I know Thinkpad's plastic is durable. Good to see this year model becomes more premium than last one!
T14 has lost its soul with soldered rams, which is very shameful.
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Not at all bad when the laptop comes with 32 gig of ram
@@AmbientWanderer does it comes with 32gb ram??
@@ezyyy69yeah with a good cpu and a tb of ram all for ~$1000
@@ezyyy69 The base model comes with 16 GB of RAM, but you have the option to upgrade to 32 GB at the time of purchase for an additional $80. Given the capabilities of this laptop, it's hard to imagine needing more than 32 GB. The soldered RAM shouldn't be a concern, especially when considering competitors like Apple, which starts their configurations at a mere 8 GB and charges an exorbitant $200 for RAM upgrades.
In the UK, the T14s model only has the 300 nits 45% NTSC panel - no other options 😢
I think they must have supply issues as a month ago they had 4 different screen options. I wanted to get a T14s in and also noticed the same and there is no way I am buying one in with that rubbish panel :(
Could you comment on the pitch of the fans when they’re running? Many (most?) laptops have a high pitched turbine-like whine and I can’t take it. Wanted to know if this laptop makes the same noise or if it’s a gentle “whoosh”.
I'd be interested in that information as well.
This is exactly what bothers me as well when dealing with modern thin laptops. I might get a desktop to use at home, but I'll miss the portability so I'm still trying to find a laptop with reasonable fan sound. I miss my old HP 15, crappy laptop, but served well without any coil whine or fan whine.
Please tell us more about it, if it is compatible with any Pen? If yes, what is the model number of Pen?
it isn't sorry
Big bummer they missed out USB4 on Ryzen models so I'll wait for next-gen to make a jump from my current 5850U.
The put usb4 on the T14s but that one is more expensive, lacks an Ethernet port and has a low TDP 🥲
Great video! Can you connect this laptop to two monitors with a docking station? I saw in Reddit that people were having issues to do that.
It should work fine with a decent USBC dock, I have only ever connected 1 monitor so haven't tested it myself though
@@MashITTech I will probably check it when mine arrive. Thank you for your respond!
Which one would you guys prefer Zenbook 14 OLED (UM3402) ryzen 5 or 7
ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 10 with ryzen 7
I would take the X1 carbon any day. I assume this is hypothetical as they don't make a Ryzen version (unless I completely missed it!)
Great review! I'd like to ask, how can you connect 2 external monitors to this?
What I have now for work is a Gen 2 version of this laptop. Obviously, one of the monitors would be connected via the dedicated HDMI port.
For the other one, can I buy a USB-C hub? Don't I need the port to be Thunderbolt-compatible for that? (and since we have the AMD version, there is no Thunderbolt support). Really trying to figure this out before I go ahead and order that other monitor.
The big advantage of the T14 above the T14S is the user replaceable keyboard. I found out that when I recently spilled some fresh water over my T490s replacing the keyboard was a complete bitch. Had to remove the motherboard and remove about 70 (!!) micro screws. Spill resistant keyboard: not really. I just ordered a T14 gen4 AMD. Nice thing is that when ordering from Lenovo without operating system you get 130 EUR discount! I use Linux, so that is a very nice bonus!
I do also like the ethernet port you still get with the standard t14! thanks for the heads up on the keyboard, I didn't realise that
@@MashITTechYes, the ethernet port is something that makes the choice for the non S version easy. At home I use only wired connections.
In all fairness I think Lenovo does not get enough credit for the big jump in display quality since the first gen t14 was first introduced... gone are the old days of dim, low color accuracy displays, can now work on excell, vscode and enjoy netflix on it... all t14 from gen 1 have a beautiful 500 nits 4k display option which is worth every dime imo, rivals a Mac screen but with a massive boost on built quality and ports!
I have to make a quick decision. Should i choose i7 1260p or ryzen 7 PRO 6850u? Are there any drawbacks to any of the versions?
the Ryzen doesn't have thunderbolt but performs much better than the intel. My advice is to get the ryzen unless you know you need thunderbolt
@@MashITTech Thanks. What about T14 vs T14S? I can choose between T14 gen3 Ryzen 7 PRO 6850u with 32gb ram and 1tb ssd or T14S with i7 1260p, 16gb ram and 512gb ssd. Won't the Intel version be more premium with bigger battery, better build quality, and better upgradeability?
it has nothing to do with the fact its intel but the T14s is slimmer, slightly more premium and has an extra 8% battery capacity over the standard T14. The T14 gets an ethernet port and has an extra 5w more power than the T14s due to its larger fan. You should also be able to get the T14s in ryzen. Hope this helps,
The microphones sounds like … yeah, not good. I can’t believe they cheap out on small microphones that might cost them 2$ to get a good one in it instead of this muffled one.
I can't believe they cheap out on it in a BUSINESS laptop
What type of work do you do? I am looking for something for software development
These days mostly RUclips 😂 but in seriousness, web dev & business systems with some 3D dev in the side (unity and blender)
Please also add fan noise for tasks like web browsing and watching 1080p RUclips.
(Can you hear the fans there or is the laptop silent?)
Most people won’t use this machine for gaming …
The fans are incredibly quiet or off for casual use. It was a lovely quiet machine even under medium load
@@MashITTech thanks! Very helpful!
I ordered mine today, just to find out that it does not have backlit keyboard by default... Such a shame for me that you need to ask for it as an upgrade (and only 10usd more). I don't understand why someone would choose the non-backlit version honestly.
I did exactly the same 😂 Its stupid isn't it and if you look at the T14s, that one defaults to backlit! Not sure what they are smoking
Sounds like a great well rounded laptop. AMD is the way to go for portable laptops. Thanks for the review
Yeah, I wish there was more choices of ryzen laptops! Asus and Lenovo seem to be the only manufacturers embracing them
Facts. I just picked up X1 Carbon Gen 10 and battery life is shit. Returning it for something better. Hopefully Gen 11 has an AMD option?
Don't see this as any type of Gaming Laptop. But a great and well equipped office on the go or Programmer/Graphic Designer or Business Laptop.
Agreed, I would never buy it with the intent of gaming but it is surprising what the rdna2 gfx are capable of so you could relax with some less demanding games at the end of the day
Fine print sensor?????
So is the soldered RAM dual-channel? Dual-channel RAM makes a heeee-uge difference in regards to iGPU performance.
yes it is dual channel.
@@MashITTech Okay, it's still on my radar then, although I'm now eyeballing the P15v gen 3 (AMD version) 😄
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Have you noticed any keyboard input lag when typing? I bought a T480 years ago and had to return it because I had problems with keystrokes not registering. That stopped me from buying Lenovo products since then. I'm also a bit upset that they removed the SD card reader on this model.
What's the point of 2 usb with display support when one has to be used for the power? It means you cannot use the two USB-C for 2 separate displays?
It’s possible if you have a monitor that supplies PD power to the laptop at the same time 👍
@@MashITTech So possible to one direction get powered from the monitor and from the other direction send data to the monitor? Do you have a link to such a screen?
what size and resolution screen are you looking for?
@@MashITTech Portable so around 16"
Is this laptop linux compatible?
How to enable the keyboard backlight?
Fn + space bar 👍
Would this laptop run Genshin well?
Just amazing.
Brillant Made in China excellence.
Is there any thunder typeC plot for egpu?
not on this model! the T14s which is slightly more expensive has a USB4 port
Ryzen really goes well with it
They shrank the keyboard by 5-6mm as compared to the Gen 2 model.
yes they are doing it throughout the whole Thinkpad range as they update the chassis
I can't get over those screen bezels...
Haha they are old skool
@@MashITTech Seems very comparable to the Lenovo Yoga 7 Gen 7 (AMD).
Yes, the yoga is the consumer arm so looks more modern and slimmer bezels etc but you don’t get the thinkpad keyboard trsckpoint and mil spec testing, spill channels etc
so its not possible to upgrade ram on this?
sadly not, they soldered it in :(
Everything seems to be top notch but that webcam test really threw me off! Cheap Dell Inspirons sound much better than this. Hopefully there is a driver / software fix for this!!
Yeah, fingers crossed as the mics were the worst I have used in a while
can gaming with legend of league sir?
yes, easily. I play data at 1200p medium settings with great fps
They returned RJ45, I just can't believe my eyes!
Does it ever get a bit too loud?
No, the fan noise has been great
@@MashITTech thanks
Commenting before i finish the video: i bet this keyboard isn't as good as the Alienware X17
So true
If only there was an option for a 120Hz panel 😥
agreed! now they have added 165hz to the X1 extreme I can live in hope they will offer it to other think pad models
@@MashITTech I have a Lenovo Legion 5 (with the Ryzen 7 4800H) running Linux. It has a 144Hz panel, and it's amazing! I'm so addicted to "beyond 60Hz" panels now 😉
you and me both, I wish the whole industry moved to 120hz+
No sd card?
Unfortunately not 😢
yo when's surface 9 review
Surface should arrive 8th November 👍
@@MashITTech Can't wait!
Intel version only has one heat pipe 😂
Yeah, I don't know what Lenovo are thinking sometimes
me watching on my t14
Reviews ThinkPad, doesn't mention that this generetion replaced recessed/beveled ClickPad buttons with shitty flat buttons, amatour reviewer. Looks like Lenovo forgot their T440 expierience.
haha I am not a long time Thinkpad user (only last couple of years since T14 gen1) so yes I guess I am amateur reviewer. Better to be an amateur reviewer than a rude viewer though, kindness costs nothing
I have now confirmed through every possible level that #Thinkpad @Lenovo Lenovo with usb-c port charging not working is automatically a CID and there is no way to repeal that decision. Our unit had only faulty solder. They don't respect warranty.