I put MSD Atomic on a 1966 Chevy Caprice with a LS1 in it, it was great! I also had a FAST on my 57 Belair with a 355 SBC, it was ok but I had a starting problem later on. I also have a 47 Ford Tudor with a 347 SBF which is getting a ACE efi. I feel your pain brother I hurt my back in 1979 and have suffered ever since. I am now 86 years old.
Wow! Keep on cranking along my friend! I think this will be a cool unit. We’ll see how it self tunes. But I’m prepared to take it to a pro, if I have to. I won’t just give up like so many people do. Thanks for watching!
Hey Funky! First let me say that I am sorry to hear that you are in such pain Brother! I sincerely hope you begin to feel better soon! That sounds like a cool setup you have there!! I am looking forward to seeing how things progress with it!
It was a black Friday promotion. Spend so much and get a free 7 inch upgrade. I just bought the kill shot for my 70 c10 and I can't wait to install it. It's really a nice kit!
For a while i was looking for a simplistic EFI setup for my ZZ4 crate engine running in a '79 malibu 2dr coupe and the throttle body type with the built in injectors and sensors in a minimized package seemed very attractive, especially for the price. But then i also noticed that the ECU was attached directly to the throttle body(others. not Aces), and i said no way, engine heat over time will kill it, think hot soak of a carburator that effects the gas in the fuel bowls. What also adds to the price, you will need a single plane intake manifold for the throttle body to work correctly, granted you could still a dual plane intake, but that will require needing to install a 1/2'' or so spacer between the throttle body and the intake for the open space needed. In short, i know i'll be spending at least twice as much as the ACES EFI, but i've decided to go with the Edelbrock Pro Flo4 sequential EFI system, its wireless, comes complete with everything you'll need, plus distributor and comes with its own tablet, and best of all, the ECU can be mounted remotely away from damaging engine heat. One more detail i must add, just makes me wonder what the longevity of the injectors/sensors that are incased inside the throttle body with prolonged under hood engine heat, even though its made from aluminum, just something to think about as well.
Friend of mine has that Edlebrock EFI. He said he hates it. He finally got it tuned right, and it works great, but he still hates it🤣 He said if he were to do it again he wouldn’t buy it. Those suckers are expensive too. But apparently when the tune gets worked out it works great
That’s a nice set up. I agree about being a bad idea to have ecm on top a hot engine. Great they sent the larger screen too. I’m looking forward to seeing the performance part. Sucks about your pain, hopefully it will get better soon! 👊😎✌️
I'm sorry about your health situation,I've had three serious back injuries and one back surgery.I've been on morphine,fentenal and neurontin. There is an advertisement for a leg strap that goes just below the knee with a hard button that goes on the calf muscle.I do get relief when the pain is heavy. That has helped. A fellow sufferer.
Thanks! Yeah I tried that strap. Unfortunately it didn’t do anything for me. This was back in November. It took me 2 months to heal. 3 days later I was back at the ER, 5 shots🤦♂️ but I am doing good now 👍
6:23 .....😂i was answering right along like you could hear me...🤷♂️🤦♂️. Thanks for the video. Just received my Killshot Top End Kit. Sbc in an 85 CJ7 😈
Sorry to hear about the pain your going through! Get well soon. I will definitely be following the install. Please do step by step I wanna get this kit myself, but I have never done a carb swap before and not to familiar with carbs.
I’ve been looking into this setup. Just as you did I saw it Facebook and when I googled the killshot. One of the first links brought me to you. I emailed aces inquiring if this unit has transmission controls or if they off a stand alone for a transmission
The 7” was their holiday deal automatic upgrade. I just missed it. When I was waiting for the distributors to be made after black Friday I was emailed to update my order and I would automatically get a 7” instead of 5”
It looks like a nice system, and the price was right.... the big question is are you going to paint the new intake red? I really hope your pain subsides soon buddy. Can't wait to see the install vids.
The Holley Snipers have the ECU on the throttle body. This Aces systems is like the Holley Terminator X Stealth system where you get a throttle body like this one and a Terminator X ECU where it mounts away from the throttle body. The only thing is that the Terminator X is not weatherproof. If you want that you'll have to step up to the Holley HP which is a way more expensive ECU.
A nice carb is nearly that much so why not, I’m done with solid rollers cause I ain’t adjusting crap all the time, since it comes with a distributor can you control timing curve with the dash? Wonder if they play well with a NX Maximizer 5
Funky looks like a really nice system and well made looking forward to the install video's.. Man what you need is a big ole fat girl to work the knots out of you then you'll be good to go ....
Hey not to pester you. But I see it’s been a month or two since the install. Would you still recommend this system now? I think I’m going to sell my sniper and join you. Place my bet on Aces lol🤣. Thanks!
Electronics sucks and will always fail,,, i get a new phone and it's bad,, the replacement phone works perfect for 2 months and then goes bad,, electronics will always SUCK,, prone to failure...
I’ve spent hours on the phone with Holley tech on my sniper unit I had. Sent the TB back as they thought maybe the ecm was bad. Got it back put it on started going through with the initial set up just to have the injectors stuck open and filled my motor and intake up with gas. Ripped it all out and went carb. Now for the K5 build I have to have FI for the rock crawling I like to do and I’m doing everything in my power not to LS swap this so giving ACES a shot.
Before I bought my Aces I heard good and bad about the Sniper, equally. Since I bought the Aces I keep hearing all the bad🤣about the Sniper. Good luck!
This is the kind of video that shows amazing support for a product, as well as providing insight and wisdom. Ive seen the same videos mentioned and more, except for the rookie who gave up before trying to tweak the unit. Then made my decision, before this video sent it to the moon. Good stuff buddy.
I know a lot of people had issues with feedback from the distributor and the ecm and back a nightmare I wonder if having the ecm separate would also help with that
Just got a killshot to put on my Windsor swaped 94 GT bought it for the same reason boost ready and didnt want to spend alot of money on poor placement of the ecm and it die on me
@@joaquin0023 Got build a test efi fuel tank to pre-run the engine, And I hope to get it installed in the next few months by may because I still got a few more items to pick up as I have about 96% of the parts and like everything in life it take💰of💸 🤣🤣
I went with aces efi and had nothing but problems even pulled out the wire harness and got two ecu take a crap on me. Wish I went with Holley but for now I’m keeping it old school 850 carb
I fully agree my friend! I have gone through hell with my holley sniper setup and have received no help from holley. After many hours on the phone. The two worst things I’ve found is the sensors are garbage. Had to replace several, the IAC was defective out the box. Also the whole EMI/RFI interference issue. From the ecu living inside the main unit. I honestly expected more from Holley……..
Dang!!! Sorry about the sciatica pain Funky, it sounds painful just hearing about it. That’s a cool setup! Even better that it comes boost ready! I know you said you’re not planning on running boost… but yeah right Funky! Im sure you got a setup in mind already 😂
I'm thinking it's promotion upgrade for the handheld they do promotions regularly assuming to help get units out there. Also I bought the killshot top end kit as well, wiring it in easy but the wire management was a slight pain but honestly followed instructions and car did fire right up now I don't fully trust the self learn so I will get it tuned by a professional but currently I am able to drive around for reference it's on a 88 foxbody 302 turbo.
Yeah was wondering about that. The promotion I seen was a pressure sensor with fittings. I to don’t fully trust it, but am curious to see how it does on its own. Crazy how similar engines need different tuning
I’m really sorry to hear about your back going out on you. Not fun at all. Not sure if it’s legal in your area but the cbd/thc balms reallllly help with that sciatica. Feel better bruh
Can you take the controller off and stow it when not in use? I have no desire for a digital dash or display after initial setup and plan on using analog gauges. Thanks
From what I’ve seen, and read through the manual yes, after it’s tuned you can simply unplug the Can cable and everything will be as normal, I just ordered a master kit from aces for my big block ford project too.
Seems like a good kit. I have the Holley sniper I bought 6 years ago for my Pontiac and it fired right up right after instal, but the issue I have with it is that after the engine warmed up it wont start till it cools off. I’m going to remove it this spring and might give aces a try. Great video 👍
I mentioned the whole separate ECU on a Holley page. They replied with, get a Terminator X. They don’t get it, and don’t care, they’re HOLLEY. All the little guys have them separate. Jegs, Summit, Aces. I shall see, but I think Aces is the best TBI product on the market.
Great info ! 😎🏴☠️
I put MSD Atomic on a 1966 Chevy Caprice with a LS1 in it, it was great! I also had a FAST on my 57 Belair with a 355 SBC, it was ok but I had a starting problem later on. I also have a 47 Ford Tudor with a 347 SBF which is getting a ACE efi. I feel your pain brother I hurt my back in 1979 and have suffered ever since. I am now 86 years old.
Wow! Keep on cranking along my friend! I think this will be a cool unit. We’ll see how it self tunes. But I’m prepared to take it to a pro, if I have to. I won’t just give up like so many people do. Thanks for watching!
Hey Funky! First let me say that I am sorry to hear that you are in such pain Brother! I sincerely hope you begin to feel better soon! That sounds like a cool setup you have there!! I am looking forward to seeing how things progress with it!
Thanks man. It been a very rough road for me right now. But I can’t wait to get going on it
Can't wait to see you put this on I'm curious Get well Soon MOTHERFOXER 🚗🔧🦊🙌👊🇺🇸
Me either, thank man!!
I will pray your pain goes away. Thanks for the good info as well.
Thanks James really do appreciate it👍
It was a black Friday promotion. Spend so much and get a free 7 inch upgrade. I just bought the kill shot for my 70 c10 and I can't wait to install it. It's really a nice kit!
First! Cool beans man! Get feeling better buddy.
Yes sir. Fairmont needs one of these😎
@@funkystangs2843 1050 ProForm baby!
Nice! Lots of great info there. Computers and heat - just think of those silly TFI modules... Hope you back gets better and I will pray for you.
Thanks!! Appreciate it. Like I said did a lot of research
For a while i was looking for a simplistic EFI setup for my ZZ4 crate engine running in a '79 malibu 2dr coupe and the throttle body type with the built in injectors and sensors in a minimized package seemed very attractive, especially for the price. But then i also noticed that the ECU was attached directly to the throttle body(others. not Aces), and i said no way, engine heat over time will kill it, think hot soak of a carburator that effects the gas in the fuel bowls. What also adds to the price, you will need a single plane intake manifold for the throttle body to work correctly, granted you could still a dual plane intake, but that will require needing to install a 1/2'' or so spacer between the throttle body and the intake for the open space needed. In short, i know i'll be spending at least twice as much as the ACES EFI, but i've decided to go with the Edelbrock Pro Flo4 sequential EFI system, its wireless, comes complete with everything you'll need, plus distributor and comes with its own tablet, and best of all, the ECU can be mounted remotely away from damaging engine heat. One more detail i must add, just makes me wonder what the longevity of the injectors/sensors that are incased inside the throttle body with prolonged under hood engine heat, even though its made from aluminum, just something to think about as well.
Friend of mine has that Edlebrock EFI. He said he hates it. He finally got it tuned right, and it works great, but he still hates it🤣 He said if he were to do it again he wouldn’t buy it. Those suckers are expensive too. But apparently when the tune gets worked out it works great
That’s a nice set up. I agree about being a bad idea to have ecm on top a hot engine. Great they sent the larger screen too. I’m looking forward to seeing the performance part. Sucks about your pain, hopefully it will get better soon!
👊😎✌️
It checks all the marks! Oh the pain. Worst I ever had. Thanks for the good vibes
I'm sorry about your health situation,I've had three serious back injuries and one back surgery.I've been on morphine,fentenal and neurontin. There is an advertisement for a leg strap that goes just below the knee with a hard button that goes on the calf muscle.I do get relief when the pain is heavy. That has helped. A fellow sufferer.
Thanks! Yeah I tried that strap. Unfortunately it didn’t do anything for me. This was back in November. It took me 2 months to heal. 3 days later I was back at the ER, 5 shots🤦♂️ but I am doing good now 👍
Sounds like a good deal, hoping it works well for you!
Thanks. Some name brand isn’t alway the best. Depends on what it is though
I'm really looking forward to this my older brother Johnny is talking about getting one for his 72 Bronco. Sorry to hear about your health.
Awesome. I can’t wait, but I guess I have to. Yeah I was getting healthy, then nature says no🤷♂️
That was a GREAT report by the way. I have also heard good things about ACES.
Thanks. Car is running now. I had some hiccups, but it was my fault. So far I like it
6:23 .....😂i was answering right along like you could hear me...🤷♂️🤦♂️. Thanks for the video. Just received my Killshot Top End Kit. Sbc in an 85 CJ7 😈
Sorry to hear about the pain your going through! Get well soon. I will definitely be following the install. Please do step by step I wanna get this kit myself, but I have never done a carb swap before and not to familiar with carbs.
Thanks appreciate it. I’ll do my best to show what I do!
i just ordered my jackpot system, they are doing the 7in screen free upgrade, its nice
I’ve been looking into this setup. Just as you did I saw it Facebook and when I googled the killshot. One of the first links brought me to you. I emailed aces inquiring if this unit has transmission controls or if they off a stand alone for a transmission
The 7” was their holiday deal automatic upgrade. I just missed it. When I was waiting for the distributors to be made after black Friday I was emailed to update my order and I would automatically get a 7” instead of 5”
I just got my killshot top end kit today I cant wait till I have time to install it
It looks like a nice system, and the price was right.... the big question is are you going to paint the new intake red? I really hope your pain subsides soon buddy. Can't wait to see the install vids.
It sure does. Man I’m struggling, but trying to get though
First off...GET BETTER!! That looks like a really cool well thought out system.
I’m trying. I hope it preforms good, I’m sure it will
I think a lot of people have vacuum leaks or one way fueling systems that don't understand Fi
The Holley Snipers have the ECU on the throttle body. This Aces systems is like the Holley Terminator X Stealth system where you get a throttle body like this one and a Terminator X ECU where it mounts away from the throttle body. The only thing is that the Terminator X is not weatherproof. If you want that you'll have to step up to the Holley HP which is a way more expensive ECU.
Good video Funky 👍🏻
A nice carb is nearly that much so why not, I’m done with solid rollers cause I ain’t adjusting crap all the time, since it comes with a distributor can you control timing curve with the dash? Wonder if they play well with a NX Maximizer 5
Yes you can. Have to tear the distributor apart. Action Vulture has a video on that as well
Funky looks like a really nice system and well made looking forward to the install video's.. Man what you need is a big ole fat girl to work the knots out of you then you'll be good to go ....
Thanks. Well a big ol fat did do this to me. It weighs 3 tons🤣
@funkystangs2843 You need a Heavy weight to pay you a visit for about a hour you'll be back on your feet in no time !!!
Do any of you know if the Aces fuel injection help improve gas milage on most cars if they can be tuned for it?
Get better soon bro.
The Kill Shot looks good
Thanks! I’m trying
The problem is no body wanna Figure things out. They don't wanna learn they are set there way
But time and time again carburators make more power and torque on small block fords
Hey not to pester you. But I see it’s been a month or two since the install. Would you still recommend this system now? I think I’m going to sell my sniper and join you. Place my bet on Aces lol🤣. Thanks!
Will this work for the 351? Just curious so I know if this would be a good option. Thanks buddy.
Yes you would order the kit with the 351 distributor. So when I go to put it on my 393, I’ll have to get that distributor
The only thing i don't like is maps are live
Terrible Holley not helping customers properly. Get the cash and run.
Electronics sucks and will always fail,,, i get a new phone and it's bad,, the replacement phone works perfect for 2 months and then goes bad,, electronics will always SUCK,, prone to failure...
@@v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31 ok. I still have my iPhone 12. Never a problem so far🤣
Cut your fingernails dude.
I’ve spent hours on the phone with Holley tech on my sniper unit I had. Sent the TB back as they thought maybe the ecm was bad. Got it back put it on started going through with the initial set up just to have the injectors stuck open and filled my motor and intake up with gas. Ripped it all out and went carb. Now for the K5 build I have to have FI for the rock crawling I like to do and I’m doing everything in my power not to LS swap this so giving ACES a shot.
Before I bought my Aces I heard good and bad about the Sniper, equally. Since I bought the Aces I keep hearing all the bad🤣about the Sniper. Good luck!
I wanted to go with them but they don’t offer a dual quad system so I went FiTech have right at 2000.00 in it that includes fuel system
@@allencobbs4047 I was able to piece the fuel system together with a fitting, pump hanger for about $350.
I love my ace’s killshot…works like a charm…i picked it for the same exact reasons as you did
Awesome. I think they just thought it out more. Seem to me to be a decent secret
This is the kind of video that shows amazing support for a product, as well as providing insight and wisdom. Ive seen the same videos mentioned and more, except for the rookie who gave up before trying to tweak the unit. Then made my decision, before this video sent it to the moon. Good stuff buddy.
I know a lot of people had issues with feedback from the distributor and the ecm and back a nightmare I wonder if having the ecm separate would also help with that
Never good to have an ECU in heat. Even short term over a period of time. It’s a computer. That’s why server rooms are cooled.
Just got a killshot to put on my Windsor swaped 94 GT bought it for the same reason boost ready and didnt want to spend alot of money on poor placement of the ecm and it die on me
Just start mine. Fired right up
Great info ! 😎🏴☠️
Wow! never heard of aces, looking forward to your review after it’s installed and driving
I got one I can't wait to get up running for my LS
@@SHSPVRhow’s it running
@@joaquin0023 Got build a test efi fuel tank to pre-run the engine, And I hope to get it installed in the next few months by may because I still got a few more items to pick up as I have about 96% of the parts and like everything in life it take💰of💸 🤣🤣
I went with aces efi and had nothing but problems even pulled out the wire harness and got two ecu take a crap on me. Wish I went with Holley but for now I’m keeping it old school 850 carb
Haven’t had issues. Holley bad design and also has problems
@@funkystangs2843 what kit did you buy ?
I fully agree my friend! I have gone through hell with my holley sniper setup and have received no help from holley. After many hours on the phone. The two worst things I’ve found is the sensors are garbage. Had to replace several, the IAC was defective out the box. Also the whole EMI/RFI interference issue. From the ecu living inside the main unit. I honestly expected more from Holley……..
Dang!!! Sorry about the sciatica pain Funky, it sounds painful just hearing about it. That’s a cool setup! Even better that it comes boost ready! I know you said you’re not planning on running boost… but yeah right Funky! Im sure you got a setup in mind already 😂
Thanks. Yeah over all it has everything. It certain things aline BS with have boost first. But just a little.
I’d love to hear about their resilience to water. Looking for a system to use on my jeep
I'm thinking it's promotion upgrade for the handheld they do promotions regularly assuming to help get units out there.
Also I bought the killshot top end kit as well, wiring it in easy but the wire management was a slight pain but honestly followed instructions and car did fire right up now I don't fully trust the self learn so I will get it tuned by a professional but currently I am able to drive around for reference it's on a 88 foxbody 302 turbo.
Yeah was wondering about that. The promotion I seen was a pressure sensor with fittings. I to don’t fully trust it, but am curious to see how it does on its own. Crazy how similar engines need different tuning
I just purchased this kit, excited to get it in my car. Which fuel pump and regulator did you use?
I used a eBay regulator. Was trouble shooting and changed it to an Aeromotive. Didn’t need too. I have an in tank Quantum 340.
Hope you get to feeling better soon. Good video, good discussion! It's nice to hear people's take on things.
A local guy bought the ACES efi setup. he asked me to help tune it. Im looking foward to diving into it. Get well man!
Very cool. Think there a hidden gem. We’ll see
I’m really sorry to hear about your back going out on you. Not fun at all. Not sure if it’s legal in your area but the cbd/thc balms reallllly help with that sciatica. Feel better bruh
It’s legal, but not like I can do that, thanks Brian
Can you take the controller off and stow it when not in use? I have no desire for a digital dash or display after initial setup and plan on using analog gauges. Thanks
From what I’ve seen, and read through the manual yes, after it’s tuned you can simply unplug the Can cable and everything will be as normal, I just ordered a master kit from aces for my big block ford project too.
Seems like a good kit. I have the Holley sniper I bought 6 years ago for my Pontiac and it fired right up right after instal, but the issue I have with it is that after the engine warmed up it wont start till it cools off. I’m going to remove it this spring and might give aces a try. Great video 👍
I mentioned the whole separate ECU on a Holley page. They replied with, get a Terminator X. They don’t get it, and don’t care, they’re HOLLEY. All the little guys have them separate. Jegs, Summit, Aces. I shall see, but I think Aces is the best TBI product on the market.
Does the touch screen have to be turned on and hooked up at all times for it to work and run?
Not sure about that. I have a Terminator X I never unplugged my hand held. If it’s saved in ECU, I would imagine you could. But not sure
ACE IS A VERY GOOD SYSTEM
Lucky with the 7in
Ty for your video! I just ordered one
I cant wait to see this installed!