I love how honest you are about this. Even what could be better. I.e. Fuel/oil... I want more information, but I believe I will be wanting one for my current project. And I don't have to void the warranty to find out what is s really in my vehicle! 👍
Missing from video: T-handle allen wrench set and a dog. Great video btw, very informative and looks very well built. I will be ordering one soon for my LT1 build, already have the Aces High Roller Pro ignition package, just need the throttle body now. Thanks!
I love that the kit includes a coil and distributor for sb Mopar. I plan to pick one up this year for my Mopar rebuild and im excited to break in my engine with it.
Thanks for the breakdown, seriously been researching these efi for my 68fastback. Royal flush really gives you the best features for the buc,. Only thing holding me back is long term support but knowing how they work internally really helps.
Royal flush is a unit. Has the same throttle body but with the added bonus of a built in cdi box with a 2step input and a rev limiter. I just did a killshot install video I could swap harness and ecu and make it a Royal flush video real quick. In my next video it’s a full install and test drive. Long as crap
@@actionvulture5251 ah good to know, I watched your last aces vid and was impressed by the tuning stuff. I'll be purchasing the aces distributor and let the ecm control timing. I'd rather see a video on how to set that up.
Sold me, I have a killshot system sitting here with me now waiting to go on a 1982 K20 truck with a clean rebuilt 350 this month, with all new tanks and fuel system it should be nice, with flexibility to use more features at a later time..
I have been looking at Aces sites and other videos. Finally, 3:55 into this video the question of how much boost this unit is capable of managing is answered when you state it is a 3 bar MAP. THANKYOU!
Wow 😮! Simple and elegant system! Mind blown 🤯! 😱 super awesome video short sweet concise factual and very informative! Very proper clear enunciations! I’m over here dreaming of new possibilities for my projects! 😅 millions of horrible RUclips shill videos and yet this guy has renewed my faith, I really wish RUclips could really let me tailor my own preferences on there algorithms, anyhoos really thinking about buying this system for running my 2uzfe v8 😂! Now I just gotta find some way to make a intake manifold to mate up to the killshot unit 😅, ok I just found out aces makes the wild card port injection system mind blown 🤯 where did I put my card?😅
Really looking forward to finding out how reliable these units are going to be. Hopefully their ECUs will be rock solid, and their injectors as well........ Not like those other guys that can't keep a unit on the road...
Better injector clips on these and my ecus on my projects are great. Don’t mean a few won’t go bad over the years but they use better chip sets and are remote so no heat
Very cool, was concerned about the pricing. But it makes sense, the components appear to be off the shelf. .. which isn’t bad… oem spends the most on r&d for sure…
Might do that if the market for that setup improves. There is a few other options out there but they suck to setup to be honest. Almost gave up on tuning one of those on a swap meet build.
Cannot void warranty even if they put it in writing. Magnuson/Moss Act counters it. If they can prove you actually damaged something by disassembling it, then they might have a valid void. Otherwise, you as the consumer, can tear it apart all you want.
Kinda. There is a lot of flexibility in Magnuson/Moss. I found out when I was taking law before I went engineering that it does not offer as much protection as a person would think. Especially in modern times.
Are there instructions on how to use killshot on a supercharged application? I have a 350 sbc with a Weiand 177 SC that puts out 570hp. Thank you for the video, definitely interested in the Killshot
I will be making a video at some point about how to scale the tables for boost. And with a draw through sc you will have to refer to the manual for putting the plug in the bottom and installing the boost reference barbed fitting. Nothing too bad you will have to use the laptop tuning software to get it dialed in. Or should I put a single turbo on my camper?
It does not loose memory if disconnected. I just put my deuces wild on last night and it still has the same tune in it. Where are you seeing the setting reset at.
Make sure you are not loosing 12v between the on position of the key and start. If it does the ecu thinks you went key off and on so the fuel in there will fire up but then die out. As a test put your 12v switched wire to the positive side of the batt and start it. If it stays running your good just remember you have to disconnect your 12v switched to turn it off during testing.
Only thing i don't like about this unit is that it doesn't appear you can run a 14-inch drop base air cleaner. If it was more in the shape/style of a 4150 mech secondary carb, it would be better, IMHO
Exciting. Take your time on the install and make sure everything is correct. 80% of running issues from aftermarket efi units is install related. I see most issues with bad timing causing fuel issues and idle stability problems. Look for injection pulse to be around 2-3 and iac with engine up to temp at about 10-20 steps.
Hey I just went to put in my information on the hand held and it says timed out offline what does that mean and it will not let me put in any information
I had that issue when I had a fuel pressure sensor plugged in. Or when the hh software did not match the ecu. Go into settings and update ecu and see if that helps. Also I will put that in a video soon.
First of all that does not void your warranty if they say this does and you can probably report with the FTC and watch how much trouble they will get into under Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
I remember reading about that in college. Really takes me back. Can you give a better example of how that applies to the disassembly and slight modification of this unit should I try to warranty a not as manufactured item.
Great videos, AE1006 injectors are 160lbs vs AE 1004 are 1000lbs per hour per hour right? Who sells them? Does Aces and Holley use the same type of injectors? A friend of mine was asking and wondering about FITech as well?
That will be a thing at some point I think currently the value is locked out unless you have the engineering level software that I use but it is a future thing
Does the hand held touch screen have to be hooked up at all times for this to work and run? Where can I find these kits at? I've never heard of it before, but I have a 383 SBC that's going in a 85 Monte Carlo SS that should make around 450-475 hp. I need a carb anyways, so this seems simple enough.
Naw you can get the tune or the self learning done and turn off the o2 sensors and unplug the Hand held. Most of my videos I use the same two hand held screens over and over again.
old video hopeful too get a response, on my instructions page 14 -2.5 it just says boost reference port and shows the nipple for the vacuum line and the plug by the throttle blades. From what you said for my turbo blow through i should leave those alone from how they came with a plug in the vacuum port and the plug not installed? currently i have it installed only as it didn't mention draw through or blow through. now im hoping it didnt cause any issues.
Why does my map sensor read 11.4 when it should read approx 75 I’m at 6700 feet above sea and after watching the video the map sensors inside the machine so I’m gonna have to open it to find out what is going on which basically will cost me $1300
I own a 1990 Squarebody Chevy Suburban with a blown motor that i will be replacing with a fully rebuilt 350 SBC of the same year range. For the new motor I am considering doing away with the the original stock EFI system and putting an Aces Killshot in it. My only concern is i believe it currently has an electronically controlled transmission from the factory. Is the Killshot compatible with electronically controlled transmissions? or would extra hardware be required to ensure the proper function of the trans?
You will need a trans control. They have one for the 4l60e and 80e under development. Should be out some time. I kind of hope to get the chance to test it. We will see and of course I will make a video about it.
I don't know much about vehicles, but I am interested in upgrading from a carb to EFI. I've basically only seen good reviews about the Aces stuff. I have an 82 cj7 with the 4.2l. What setup would you recommend? My primary goals are better fuel efficiency and not dealing with cold start issues and tuning a carb.
If you don’t plan for 5k rpm’s or higher you can make a deuces wild work pretty good on that unit. Make sure to get the tuning cable and you will be able to go through a good basic tune for getting that fuel just perfect.
@actionvulture5251 I apologize for being ignorant in regards to tuning. If the price difference isn't and issue, would I get better results with the killshot master kit?
So if you're over 650hp you could replace those injectors with bigger one's correct? This is going on my built sbc in my mud truck and was thinking about boosting it but im already over 500hp na. Just tired of carburetor problems.
Time for some multiport injection hoss cat. I just tested the new generation joker multiport kit from aces. The tb on it does 1000 cfm and works with ev6 pico injectors. I should have a video of the install up in the next month.
do ALL the throttle bodies open simultaneously? or two crack open before the other two which i thought was usally needed to get good low speed driveability w/o any surging acceleration?
Hello my friend! Tell me, do you or your colleagues have a video where problems with connecting and setting up Killshot are discussed? I have some difficulties, and the support service only asks questions (the last question was “what was my order number, and how do I remember, because I ordered 1.5 years ago, but I’m installing it only now) ... and sometimes I have to wait for them messages for several days... and I apologize for my English)
@@actionvulture5251 Con su permiso, citaré lo que escribí hoy al servicio de soporte. Yes, and forgive me, I have no complaints against you, because I understand that all the warranty periods have passed, I just want to set up for 3 weeks (three!) and understand HOW the system should work! (all this time the car is in other people’s workshops and not for free) and you tell me “tomorrow” but three days later you ask for the order number... ask Josh, we corresponded with him in December 2022. I can repeat my problems: 1. after 20 minutes of operation, KillShot refused to start the engine (it gave an impulse for a spark, but the TBI fuel dropped) I had to connect the Black Jack and the engine started 2. The KillShot monitor initially showed all zeros, including when the engine was running, and then went out completely... 3. The engine idles unevenly, after warming up the speed begins to fluctuate from 350 to 1100 and sometimes the engine stalls. when you press the accelerator there is a big drop in revolutions, sometimes it stalls and sometimes the speed increases and does not drop to “idle” for a long time... when you turn on “drive” the engine sometimes stalls... I just want to finally start driving and don’t want to return Carter BBD to my car (the pump I use is Edelbrock 36031, the oxygen sensor was first installed on the supplied adapter, but it was leaky and I welded a sleeve under it at a distance of 9" from the manifold) and, once again, please forgive my English, this is Google translator... Thank you
@@actionvulture5251 With your permission, I will quote what I wrote to the support service today. Yes, and forgive me, I have no complaints against you, because I understand that all the warranty periods have passed, I just want to set up for 3 weeks (three!) and understand HOW the system should work! (all this time the car is in other people’s workshops and not for free) and you tell me “tomorrow” but three days later you ask for the order number... ask Josh, we corresponded with him in December 2022. I can repeat my problems: 1. after 20 minutes of operation, KillShot refused to start the engine (it gave an impulse for a spark, but the TBI fuel dropped) I had to connect the Black Jack and the engine started 2. The KillShot monitor initially showed all zeros, including when the engine was running, and then went out completely... 3. The engine idles unevenly, after warming up the speed begins to fluctuate from 350 to 1100 and sometimes the engine stalls. when you press the accelerator there is a big drop in revolutions, sometimes it stalls and sometimes the speed increases and does not drop to “idle” for a long time... when you turn on “drive” the engine sometimes stalls... I just want to finally start driving and don’t want to return Carter BBD to my car (the pump I use is Edelbrock 36031, the oxygen sensor was first installed on the supplied adapter, but it was leaky and I welded a sleeve under it at a distance of 9" from the manifold) and, once again, please forgive my English, this is Google translator... Thank you
and Today, After many attempts to start the car and achieve normal idle speed, I left the workshop, the car behaves disgustingly, it constantly stalls, but the second monitor began to show signs of life, the following message appeared on it: “Error! SD Card makes file system err” after which he started blinking...
So I need the Deuces Wild unit but cannot get an answer from ACES. Called 3 times. 1) can i run the FPS shown in above video with the 2bbl version. 2) is there a Ford C6 kick down kit or does the Deuces kit come with C6 transmission hardware?
They are not open on the weekends or after 530 est. it does not come with linkage hardware but the throttle linkage is kinda one of those universal types where if you have the connecting hardware you can make it happen. The deuces wild does have the fuel connector. The new software seems to have the display option for fps and they will also have a gps handheld out soon.
Make sure you have enough fuel pump and your timing is good. I have seen a few people keep the timing locked in the handheld and it cuts out at about 3k
It will have a bunch of air and fuel but you should be able to tune it down to that. The deuces wild is their 2bbl unit. Good up to 350hp install and tuning is the same other than the 2300 flange
They make these efi units sound soooo good until they are not then its the wiring, its a vacuum leak, your alternator is not good enough, bla bla bla bla! Carb and it works!
I like both. Carbs on stuff that needs a carb and efi on most other stuff. The biggest issues I have is install issues. I get install issues with carbs as well or a poorly done rebuild and bad adjustment. But it’s hotrod stuff, it’s not for everyone.
What is your opinion on aces kill shot on a sbc with a turbo? I emailed aces customer service and they said it wouldn’t work, but their web site says for turbo applications. What is your opinion?
I am fixing to put a super charger on the black Chevy. Yeah you can go blow through or draw through. It has a 3bar maps sensor you will need a tuning cable and scale the maps for boost. That is in a up coming video
So where can you get the software to change injector size? Was looking to get one of these to upgrade for E85 but can't find the software to change injector size.
When the e85 update is released you will be able to change the injector size. It’s currently locked at 100. Currently for killshot it take engineering level software to make that change.
No need to yell. But it would take a redesign of the pcb to add in the extra ins and outs. That would drive up the cost. Option 2 is wait for the can module so you can what ever you want on there
That’s a Coke vs Pepsi thing there, I have installed both. MSD has 80lb injectors killshot 100lb injectors so higher hp rating there. Both do timing control. Both remote mount ecu, both have a HH display but the new killshot hh will have a built in gps module soon. Both use the Bosch 4.9 lsu o2 sensor but the leg up on the killshot is the 32bit processor and the cj125 wideband controller chip so faster self learning. Both easy install with just a few wires and easy setup. 500 dollar price point difference is the big seller for me. But most aftermarket units if installed and adjusted correctly do a fine job.
The goal is to use stuff that most people have. Harbor freight stuff adjustable wrenches and such. Some people like name brand and for the rest it don’t matter much.
Like where you try to ease into the throttle and it just gives it all at once. Naw the killshot is pretty smooth in that department. My camper was the worse for that when it had the sniper.
@@actionvulture5251 yes I'll never understand why snipers aren't delivered with the much better progressive linkage allready installed, I had to convert all 3 to progressive linkage
Please keep your comments courteous for others this channel is for getting basic information out to people that have trouble installing aftermarket systems.
Kill shot on my Sbc , what should I do about my HEI distributor? Or is it possible to get by with the Hei for a little while? I know noise is a issue tho.
Hei is noisy I know they changed some things on the circuit board to filter some of that out with the newest gen ecu for killshot and deuces wild. My personal jam is Hall effects and the aces coil. I like my timing control.
Lots of good information in here. And love that the throttle body is ready for boost
I love how honest you are about this. Even what could be better. I.e. Fuel/oil... I want more information, but I believe I will be wanting one for my current project. And I don't have to void the warranty to find out what is s really in my vehicle! 👍
What’s your current project?
Missing from video: T-handle allen wrench set and a dog. Great video btw, very informative and looks very well built. I will be ordering one soon for my LT1 build, already have the Aces High Roller Pro ignition package, just need the throttle body now. Thanks!
I think efi conversions has a 24x 1x conversion for the opti spark. Then you can modify a jackpot harness to fit that unit.
I love that the kit includes a coil and distributor for sb Mopar. I plan to pick one up this year for my Mopar rebuild and im excited to break in my engine with it.
Nice smooth clean install goes along way
I installed one on my 454 and the driver for the coil went out on 2 ecu’s
Thats the biggest problem ive been seeing with these killshot efis also the coil is laughable quailty. @Lobayfactorz
Thanks for the breakdown, seriously been researching these efi for my 68fastback. Royal flush really gives you the best features for the buc,. Only thing holding me back is long term support but knowing how they work internally really helps.
Royal flush is a unit. Has the same throttle body but with the added bonus of a built in cdi box with a 2step input and a rev limiter. I just did a killshot install video I could swap harness and ecu and make it a Royal flush video real quick. In my next video it’s a full install and test drive. Long as crap
@@actionvulture5251 ah good to know, I watched your last aces vid and was impressed by the tuning stuff. I'll be purchasing the aces distributor and let the ecm control timing. I'd rather see a video on how to set that up.
And so it shall be done I will make videos on all the different timing types and setup.
Sold me, I have a killshot system sitting here with me now waiting to go on a 1982 K20 truck with a clean rebuilt 350 this month, with all new tanks and fuel system it should be nice, with flexibility to use more features at a later time..
I did a basic tuning video that should help get your fuel sorted out real quick
Love the break down thanks for the info i rather learn the foundation so i can understand how it operates
I will be doing diagnostic videos and basic tuning videos this year
I have been looking at Aces sites and other videos. Finally, 3:55 into this video the question of how much boost this unit is capable of managing is answered when you state it is a 3 bar MAP. THANKYOU!
But wait there is more. You will have to use the laptop tuning software to scale the tables but I have been asked to make a video about that.
Wow 😮! Simple and elegant system! Mind blown 🤯! 😱 super awesome video short sweet concise factual and very informative! Very proper clear enunciations! I’m over here dreaming of new possibilities for my projects! 😅 millions of horrible RUclips shill videos and yet this guy has renewed my faith, I really wish RUclips could really let me tailor my own preferences on there algorithms, anyhoos really thinking about buying this system for running my 2uzfe v8 😂! Now I just gotta find some way to make a intake manifold to mate up to the killshot unit 😅, ok I just found out aces makes the wild card port injection system mind blown 🤯 where did I put my card?😅
Just trying to keep it realistic and correct.
Really looking forward to finding out how reliable these units are going to be. Hopefully their ECUs will be rock solid, and their injectors as well........ Not like those other guys that can't keep a unit on the road...
Better injector clips on these and my ecus on my projects are great. Don’t mean a few won’t go bad over the years but they use better chip sets and are remote so no heat
Very cool, was concerned about the pricing. But it makes sense, the components appear to be off the shelf. .. which isn’t bad… oem spends the most on r&d for sure…
Ac delco map sensors and gm TPs sensors and stuff
It would be nice if the injectors were OEM too.@@actionvulture5251
I must say, you have a fine looking cat sir. Thumbs up from me, take care.
Thank you. I enjoy cats.
All I can say is thank you so much.
We do try
Hey tech guy. We need a dual quad setup. Give the people what they want
Might do that if the market for that setup improves. There is a few other options out there but they suck to setup to be honest. Almost gave up on tuning one of those on a swap meet build.
Cannot void warranty even if they put it in writing. Magnuson/Moss Act counters it. If they can prove you actually damaged something by disassembling it, then they might have a valid void. Otherwise, you as the consumer, can tear it apart all you want.
Kinda. There is a lot of flexibility in Magnuson/Moss. I found out when I was taking law before I went engineering that it does not offer as much protection as a person would think. Especially in modern times.
Just ordered one today to replace my sniper efi
I am going to take some of my old early killshot parts and convert a sniper to work. I think it would make a cool video.
Im convinced and anxious to pick up mines
Stay positive
I may have to get a carb Intake for my lt1 roadmaster wagon, this throttle body and be ready for boost 😊
I'm building an LT1 for my caprice, definately going the Aces' route!
@@davidlewisjr7144 I'm in the process of putting the aces wild card multi port systems on a lt1 383 for my 57
You got a thumbs up just for the cat.
The cat is an important part of the video as my shop has less mice for filming.
Are there instructions on how to use killshot on a supercharged application? I have a 350 sbc with a Weiand 177 SC that puts out 570hp. Thank you for the video, definitely interested in the Killshot
I will be making a video at some point about how to scale the tables for boost. And with a draw through sc you will have to refer to the manual for putting the plug in the bottom and installing the boost reference barbed fitting. Nothing too bad you will have to use the laptop tuning software to get it dialed in. Or should I put a single turbo on my camper?
Great video. Learn so much already
Going to do a install in the next video. Post stuff you really want to know more about so I can squeeze it in.
@@actionvulture5251 will the kill shot lose it memory if I take the battery off? It keeps losing it setting when I turn the ignition off
It does not loose memory if disconnected. I just put my deuces wild on last night and it still has the same tune in it. Where are you seeing the setting reset at.
@@actionvulture5251 the problem I’m having at the moment is it will only fun for around 5 seconds then it stops. It does that every time I start it
Make sure you are not loosing 12v between the on position of the key and start. If it does the ecu thinks you went key off and on so the fuel in there will fire up but then die out. As a test put your 12v switched wire to the positive side of the batt and start it. If it stays running your good just remember you have to disconnect your 12v switched to turn it off during testing.
Only thing i don't like about this unit is that it doesn't appear you can run a 14-inch drop base air cleaner. If it was more in the shape/style of a 4150 mech secondary carb, it would be better, IMHO
They will likely drop on at some point.
I just bought the killshot for my sbf I’m hoping to have it finished this weekend
Exciting. Take your time on the install and make sure everything is correct. 80% of running issues from aftermarket efi units is install related. I see most issues with bad timing causing fuel issues and idle stability problems. Look for injection pulse to be around 2-3 and iac with engine up to temp at about 10-20 steps.
Awesome thanks for the advise do you happen to have a email address if I have any questions
Hey I just went to put in my information on the hand held and it says timed out offline what does that mean and it will not let me put in any information
I had that issue when I had a fuel pressure sensor plugged in. Or when the hh software did not match the ecu. Go into settings and update ecu and see if that helps. Also I will put that in a video soon.
@@willbradley71 good evening how did you fix the timed out offline mine is doing this
I was a deal for aces and had no luck getting one to run right. And the tech guys could help at all. It was a total waist of time and money
Holley makes some good stuff you should try them before you give up on fuel injection or give fi tech a call.
First of all that does not void your warranty if they say this does and you can probably report with the FTC and watch how much trouble they will get into under Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
I remember reading about that in college. Really takes me back. Can you give a better example of how that applies to the disassembly and slight modification of this unit should I try to warranty a not as manufactured item.
Great videos, AE1006 injectors are 160lbs vs AE 1004 are 1000lbs per hour per hour right?
Who sells them?
Does Aces and Holley use the same type of injectors?
A friend of mine was asking and wondering about FITech as well?
A lot of the injectors are the same out there in the after market.
So can you replace the 100 pound injectors with some 210s and change the fuel settings in the software?
That will be a thing at some point I think currently the value is locked out unless you have the engineering level software that I use but it is a future thing
Great video, can the TPS send a signal to a transmission control module? Can a tap into the TPS to provide a signal to transmission module ?
Not recommended really. If you was might try it with a diode or something. There will be a 0-5v output in the future for these
@@actionvulture5251 thanks. Have been looking for information on this brand to see if it can bee done or options
Does the hand held touch screen have to be hooked up at all times for this to work and run?
Where can I find these kits at? I've never heard of it before, but I have a 383 SBC that's going in a 85 Monte Carlo SS that should make around 450-475 hp. I need a carb anyways, so this seems simple enough.
Naw you can get the tune or the self learning done and turn off the o2 sensors and unplug the Hand held. Most of my videos I use the same two hand held screens over and over again.
Is the fuel pressure compensation in the equation like some other companies.
Not from the sensor currently but that is in a future plan
old video hopeful too get a response, on my instructions page 14 -2.5 it just says boost reference port and shows the nipple for the vacuum line and the plug by the throttle blades. From what you said for my turbo blow through i should leave those alone from how they came with a plug in the vacuum port and the plug not installed? currently i have it installed only as it didn't mention draw through or blow through. now im hoping it didnt cause any issues.
In the out of the box configuration it is good to go for blow through. Just need to use the tuning cable and software to rescale the fuel map.
Alright good to go thank you for the reply sir.
Why does my map sensor read 11.4 when it should read approx 75 I’m at 6700 feet above sea and after watching the video the map sensors inside the machine so I’m gonna have to open it to find out what is going on which basically will cost me $1300
Ah the 11.4 is in psi. For that pressure in kpa it calculates to about 78 kpa. Same same. Also your BAP should read nearly the same.
I own a 1990 Squarebody Chevy Suburban with a blown motor that i will be replacing with a fully rebuilt 350 SBC of the same year range. For the new motor I am considering doing away with the the original stock EFI system and putting an Aces Killshot in it. My only concern is i believe it currently has an electronically controlled transmission from the factory. Is the Killshot compatible with electronically controlled transmissions? or would extra hardware be required to ensure the proper function of the trans?
You will need a trans control. They have one for the 4l60e and 80e under development. Should be out some time. I kind of hope to get the chance to test it. We will see and of course I will make a video about it.
I don't know much about vehicles, but I am interested in upgrading from a carb to EFI. I've basically only seen good reviews about the Aces stuff. I have an 82 cj7 with the 4.2l. What setup would you recommend? My primary goals are better fuel efficiency and not dealing with cold start issues and tuning a carb.
If you don’t plan for 5k rpm’s or higher you can make a deuces wild work pretty good on that unit. Make sure to get the tuning cable and you will be able to go through a good basic tune for getting that fuel just perfect.
@actionvulture5251 I apologize for being ignorant in regards to tuning. If the price difference isn't and issue, would I get better results with the killshot master kit?
That 6cyl don't need the Killshot, I would get the Dueces Wild like Tim mentioned. Aces is a fantastic product! @@chriscollins6315
So if you're over 650hp you could replace those injectors with bigger one's correct? This is going on my built sbc in my mud truck and was thinking about boosting it but im already over 500hp na. Just tired of carburetor problems.
Time for some multiport injection hoss cat. I just tested the new generation joker multiport kit from aces. The tb on it does 1000 cfm and works with ev6 pico injectors. I should have a video of the install up in the next month.
do ALL the throttle bodies open simultaneously? or two crack open before the other two which i thought was usally needed to get good low speed driveability w/o any surging acceleration?
They may do progressive at some point. But mine runs good without going crazy.
Hello my friend! Tell me, do you or your colleagues have a video where problems with connecting and setting up Killshot are discussed? I have some difficulties, and the support service only asks questions (the last question was “what was my order number, and how do I remember, because I ordered 1.5 years ago, but I’m installing it only now) ... and sometimes I have to wait for them messages for several days... and I apologize for my English)
What issues are you having.
@@actionvulture5251
Con su permiso, citaré lo que escribí hoy al servicio de soporte.
Yes, and forgive me, I have no complaints against you, because I understand that all the warranty periods have passed, I just want to set up for 3 weeks (three!) and understand HOW the system should work! (all this time the car is in other people’s workshops and not for free) and you tell me “tomorrow” but three days later you ask for the order number... ask Josh, we corresponded with him in December 2022. I can repeat my problems:
1. after 20 minutes of operation, KillShot refused to start the engine (it gave an impulse for a spark, but the TBI fuel dropped) I had to connect the Black Jack and the engine started
2. The KillShot monitor initially showed all zeros, including when the engine was running, and then went out completely...
3. The engine idles unevenly, after warming up the speed begins to fluctuate from 350 to 1100 and sometimes the engine stalls. when you press the accelerator there is a big drop in revolutions, sometimes it stalls and sometimes the speed increases and does not drop to “idle” for a long time... when you turn on “drive” the engine sometimes stalls...
I just want to finally start driving and don’t want to return Carter BBD to my car
(the pump I use is Edelbrock 36031, the oxygen sensor was first installed on the supplied adapter, but it was leaky and I welded a sleeve under it at a distance of 9" from the manifold)
and, once again, please forgive my English, this is Google translator...
Thank you
@@actionvulture5251 With your permission, I will quote what I wrote to the support service today.
Yes, and forgive me, I have no complaints against you, because I understand that all the warranty periods have passed, I just want to set up for 3 weeks (three!) and understand HOW the system should work! (all this time the car is in other people’s workshops and not for free) and you tell me “tomorrow” but three days later you ask for the order number... ask Josh, we corresponded with him in December 2022. I can repeat my problems:
1. after 20 minutes of operation, KillShot refused to start the engine (it gave an impulse for a spark, but the TBI fuel dropped) I had to connect the Black Jack and the engine started
2. The KillShot monitor initially showed all zeros, including when the engine was running, and then went out completely...
3. The engine idles unevenly, after warming up the speed begins to fluctuate from 350 to 1100 and sometimes the engine stalls. when you press the accelerator there is a big drop in revolutions, sometimes it stalls and sometimes the speed increases and does not drop to “idle” for a long time... when you turn on “drive” the engine sometimes stalls...
I just want to finally start driving and don’t want to return Carter BBD to my car
(the pump I use is Edelbrock 36031, the oxygen sensor was first installed on the supplied adapter, but it was leaky and I welded a sleeve under it at a distance of 9" from the manifold)
and, once again, please forgive my English, this is Google translator...
Thank you
motor stock 318
and Today, After many attempts to start the car and achieve normal idle speed, I left the workshop, the car behaves disgustingly, it constantly stalls, but the second monitor began to show signs of life, the following message appeared on it: “Error! SD Card makes file system err” after which he started blinking...
So I need the Deuces Wild unit but cannot get an answer from ACES. Called 3 times. 1) can i run the FPS shown in above video with the 2bbl version. 2) is there a Ford C6 kick down kit or does the Deuces kit come with C6 transmission hardware?
They are not open on the weekends or after 530 est. it does not come with linkage hardware but the throttle linkage is kinda one of those universal types where if you have the connecting hardware you can make it happen. The deuces wild does have the fuel connector. The new software seems to have the display option for fps and they will also have a gps handheld out soon.
Please help. 4.3 v6 with turbo new 340 lph pump 48 psi no vacuum leaks it was running then dying now it revs to 2400 and shuts off
Make sure you have enough fuel pump and your timing is good. I have seen a few people keep the timing locked in the handheld and it cuts out at about 3k
@@actionvulture5251 I changed cam selection from mild to stock and it's running great
Good evening I had my killshot about a week an today it's flashing ..... Connect Timeout Killshot may be offline!
Any idea wt this about I updated the software
Try the software update. Does it still start up and run good. Has it been jump started or any welding done.
Yes jumpbox
Does not start anymore
I’ve put a 4 barrel kill shot on my 2.2 Toyota 1976 hilux but it’s a 2 barrel manifold. Should it still work ok ?
It will have a bunch of air and fuel but you should be able to tune it down to that. The deuces wild is their 2bbl unit. Good up to 350hp install and tuning is the same other than the 2300 flange
Its a cheaper system then holly how good do you really like it
I am putting one on my dump truck currently. My daily has a joker in my Taheo. It gets about a thousand miles a week.
No relation to loan falcon? Great Job
Thanks.
The triangle port on the back sucks a lot of vacuum. Is it supposed to?
You should adjust your throttle blades open some more to lower your iac value then zero your TPs.
They make these efi units sound soooo good until they are not then its the wiring, its a vacuum leak, your alternator is not good enough, bla bla bla bla! Carb and it works!
I like both. Carbs on stuff that needs a carb and efi on most other stuff. The biggest issues I have is install issues. I get install issues with carbs as well or a poorly done rebuild and bad adjustment. But it’s hotrod stuff, it’s not for everyone.
What is your opinion on aces kill shot on a sbc with a turbo? I emailed aces customer service and they said it wouldn’t work, but their web site says for turbo applications. What is your opinion?
I am fixing to put a super charger on the black Chevy. Yeah you can go blow through or draw through. It has a 3bar maps sensor you will need a tuning cable and scale the maps for boost. That is in a up coming video
So where can you get the software to change injector size? Was looking to get one of these to upgrade for E85 but can't find the software to change injector size.
When the e85 update is released you will be able to change the injector size. It’s currently locked at 100. Currently for killshot it take engineering level software to make that change.
Would there be a part number available for the idle air control motor you removed ?
I am slowly working on a gm cross over number list I want to put out there on the interwebs almost everything is off the shelf sensor wise
Do you have to run a return line and you use the camero style Efi fuel system used for ls swaps?
You can use that just make sure to adjust the rated injector pressure in the hand held
I’m running a ford 302 with a 4r70w transmission. Does this system offer a built in transmission control or a stand alone?
It does not have a built in trans control. There is one for gm 4l60/80e and I think for will be a thing later in the year
@@actionvulture5251 ok awesome I’ll keep my eyes open for it. But from what I’ve seen the killshot is the better option on the market
Can't seems to find any information if this can go on a 318 - 1978 Dodge b200 van
It’s a 4150 style flange tbi system I think that engine has a 2bbl setup. The aces 2bbl is a 2300 style flange.
@Action Vulture right now I have a Thermoquad carburetor.
They are so good until they are not. One of my classic favorites. But they make a Mr gasket adapter that should work to adapt it.
Just ran across this video , What brand is this throttle body?
Aces fuel injection.
Does the TB come with the Ford kickdown linkage ?
Nope no extra linkage. Pretty sure you can score one off of summit.
Is it possible to swap out injectors to 120 pound injectors to support more hp ender boost?
Yes.
Take apart the ecu because I went through 2
It’s just a circuit board. They usually go bad with voltage spikes like wiring issues or miss use.
@@actionvulture5251 well I have one that’s not sparking no more it’s the second one is it something I can take apart and fix or is it fried
Does the killshot have a two step built in
Not yet.
Can it work on my EP82 starlet
If you got the flange. The boost is fine for that but make sure to do a good install and get the tuning cable with it to scale the tables.
But how will it hold up to flex fuel?....
I did a video about changing it to e85.
how about oil AND fuel!!!!!
No need to yell. But it would take a redesign of the pcb to add in the extra ins and outs. That would drive up the cost. Option 2 is wait for the can module so you can what ever you want on there
Is this better than msd?
That’s a Coke vs Pepsi thing there, I have installed both. MSD has 80lb injectors killshot 100lb injectors so higher hp rating there. Both do timing control. Both remote mount ecu, both have a HH display but the new killshot hh will have a built in gps module soon. Both use the Bosch 4.9 lsu o2 sensor but the leg up on the killshot is the 32bit processor and the cj125 wideband controller chip so faster self learning. Both easy install with just a few wires and easy setup. 500 dollar price point difference is the big seller for me. But most aftermarket units if installed and adjusted correctly do a fine job.
tech engineer with dollarstore wrenches/tools .......
The goal is to use stuff that most people have. Harbor freight stuff adjustable wrenches and such. Some people like name brand and for the rest it don’t matter much.
@@actionvulture5251 fair enough god bless does yours have the same on off switch like throttle pedal like sniper 1 has????
Like where you try to ease into the throttle and it just gives it all at once. Naw the killshot is pretty smooth in that department. My camper was the worse for that when it had the sniper.
@@actionvulture5251 yes I'll never understand why snipers aren't delivered with the much better progressive linkage allready installed, I had to convert all 3 to progressive linkage
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Please keep your comments courteous for others this channel is for getting basic information out to people that have trouble installing aftermarket systems.
Kill shot on my Sbc , what should I do about my HEI distributor? Or is it possible to get by with the Hei for a little while? I know noise is a issue tho.
Hei is noisy I know they changed some things on the circuit board to filter some of that out with the newest gen ecu for killshot and deuces wild. My personal jam is Hall effects and the aces coil. I like my timing control.