Comparison- Tour Weight Graphite Iron Shafts

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

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  • @briannelson1784
    @briannelson1784 Год назад +13

    Got fitted last Friday at clydeway golf centre just outside Glasgow for new irons. Intended to buy ping went through the ping fitting everything went fine The fitter asked me if I was ok for time as he would like to try me in cobra Aerojet grafhite shafted irons I’m 75 years old and the cobras were way better. Longer softer better dispersion more forgiving. Took delivery of them today at 18 00 hours. 75 gramme shafts Hitting the course tomorrow morning. This great game keeps me young

  • @zacharymilos392
    @zacharymilos392 Год назад +43

    Axiom is definitely the best technology wise but it's a hard pill to swallow at that price when mmt delivers about 98% the results at about half the price.

    • @Nathanc6308
      @Nathanc6308 Год назад +1

      I have both shafts I like the feel of the axiom it’s just a bit softer in the mid section but results wise flight was the same.

    • @Cesar-Avila
      @Cesar-Avila Год назад +1

      I agree. But gosh how good do they look?

  • @seancondon2097
    @seancondon2097 Год назад +12

    Great test. Would like to have seen a set of UST Recoils in the mix because they seem more accessible from OEMs.

  • @Cornish_Maid
    @Cornish_Maid Год назад +16

    I’ve played graphite iron shafts for years, but they’ve massively improved over the years

    • @ZeeK33NKS
      @ZeeK33NKS Год назад

      Curious in regards to durability. I know we play woods off the deck but not hitting down as much. Is durability the slightest downside?

    • @Cornish_Maid
      @Cornish_Maid Год назад +3

      @@ZeeK33NKS I’ve never had a graphite iron shaft break, so durability hasn’t been an issue for me

    • @ZeeK33NKS
      @ZeeK33NKS Год назад +1

      @@Cornish_Maid Yesss! that's the answer I was hoping for lol

    • @RogueSquidward
      @RogueSquidward Год назад +1

      Put a graphite shaft in my 2 iron and it feels great.

  • @Kazlin143
    @Kazlin143 Год назад +10

    Suprised you didn’t add in the KBS TGI 110 in the mix would love to see how it matches against the others

  • @hack.nicklaus
    @hack.nicklaus Год назад +4

    THANK YOU for mentioning swing weights, as a long time graphite believer and LA L user, the swing weight info is so hard to find and it makes a huge difference to feel. Love this content. Will try Axiom knowing can get to D2 ish now

    • @jessehughes3877
      @jessehughes3877 Год назад

      I have the L Series shafts in two sets of irons that I've built to D3 swing weight. Just had to add lead tip weights on some of the irons.

  • @buddymaxwell6881
    @buddymaxwell6881 Год назад +9

    I have no idea of what iron you are hitting. I see 190 carry and think 7 iron, then see 5600 spin and think 6 iron. This is not the first time you have left this out during iron shaft tests. Nitpicking maybe, but full info would be appreciated. Thanks.

  • @grahamwatkins3604
    @grahamwatkins3604 Год назад +5

    I’m currently playing mmt 125tx and love them! Glad to see I don’t need to run and try axiom! 😂 Irons are better than ever, I just had to add midsize grips to get the swing weight right with the Muira mc501 heads.

  • @coryyyooo
    @coryyyooo Год назад +5

    Would like to see a comparison of axiom vs x100/px6.5/modus120tx (the most common shafts used on tour)

    • @adambarnes4191
      @adambarnes4191 Год назад +1

      I haven't found a single x100 vs axiom review which is crazy to me. Should be the #1 comparison.

  • @MichaelFrederickPhoto
    @MichaelFrederickPhoto Год назад +1

    I played the i110s in my 2014 Apex Pros. LOVE them, When I got the shafts my driver was 114-116mph. I have a demo 6i with the i125 and like rebar!!! I will stick with i110s!!

  • @chuckpalmer284
    @chuckpalmer284 Год назад

    I recently have switched to graphite iron shafts. I am glad I waited until now because years ago I do not think I would have liked them and probably would never have given them a second chance. Love my graphite shafts. Love the feel and have actually gained a few yards. I highly recommend giving them a chance.

  • @aidanboyce1836
    @aidanboyce1836 Год назад +1

    Ian you need to do this test again with your PXG CB’s and get them all at the same swing weight like you talked about. I’m a 2 handicap with some decent speed in the irons. Got fit for PXG CB’s with LAGP a series low 105 X. Got them in and they had to add so much head weight to the club head that it over stressed the shaft. The shaft was bowing down and causing the club head to come in and scoop the ball and make it go left. I would love to see this test again with your heads at the swing weight that you like. Cheers

  • @asdfkhieee
    @asdfkhieee Год назад

    We got Victor to drop off an extra Synystr and tipped it to X flex, it feels and preforms just as good as any of the other graphite we have on the wall. I'm playing the MMT 105 TX and loving it currently.

  • @JeffHill-hh6xt
    @JeffHill-hh6xt Год назад

    I play steelfiber 95x now. Was fitted originally into DG 105S. By far the best move for me. Lighter gives me more control and reduces fatigue at the end of the round.

  • @jacobmccain8082
    @jacobmccain8082 Год назад +1

    Played Aerotech FC115s for about 3-4 years now. Want to try the MMT 105s and the TZi in 115.

  • @TheDeepsilver
    @TheDeepsilver Год назад +1

    Awesome tests...recently tried the TZi 115's - they feel amazing...worlds better feeling than LAGolf L-Series for me

  • @benrgrieve
    @benrgrieve Год назад

    I'm in the steel version of that Accra shaft and I love it, tried them both back-to-back at my fitting and just preferred the steel but those TZs were nearly in the bag

  • @chriselerick4770
    @chriselerick4770 Год назад +1

    ian’s swing was the freest with axiom. you could tell he really clicked with that shaft. i’m in lagp 105 a series low. tested against all these same shafts and it was the clear winner. just goes to show how many variations are possible with graphite vs steel.

  • @richardsneed1255
    @richardsneed1255 Год назад +2

    Just swapped to the Accra TZi and love them! Quality shaft plays a little stiffer than you’d expect

  • @MrBoycer11
    @MrBoycer11 2 месяца назад +1

    Can you do this in the 105 range please.

  • @grogesy1344
    @grogesy1344 Год назад +1

    Have you guys tried the VA Baddaz Graphite shafts?

  • @rbt365
    @rbt365 Год назад

    I recently have been playing LA Golf A-series 105 stiff in a set of Mizuno Pro 225's (5i-GW) and really liked them. As I can't stop buying clubs, I put a set of Miura CB-302's with Fujikura Axiom 105 Stiff shafts in play, both sets are 1/2" longer than standard (although the Miura's seem 1/4" shorter in the build when I look at them side by side) and have Lamkin gray 360 grips in the Mizuno's and Miura Lamkin UTX (non-cord) grips in the CB-302's. I absolutely love both shafts! The LA Golf shafts feel stiffer and more stable to me, but the Axiom shafts are plenty stable and stiff with possibly softer feel. I have not checked swing weights on either set yet, but need to do that and see what the differences are. My first time playing Miura irons and I'm convinced they are the best feeling irons I've ever hit. Thank you guys for always giving us the best content on the web regarding the golf equipment we all want to see!

  • @robcoates5253
    @robcoates5253 Год назад +1

    🎶Got to give the people... Give the people what they want🎶
    This was great, really curious to try Axiom!

  • @justinstephenson9360
    @justinstephenson9360 Год назад

    Interesting comments from Mikey about Steelfiber and how he typically fits people in a flex less than normal in them. All my woods and my hybrid are stiff flex but my irons (i210s with Steelfiber i80 shafts) are regular.

    • @michaelharrop4155
      @michaelharrop4155 Год назад

      Just got my 1st set with Steelfiber and went down a flex as well. I noticed that many pro's play them in Stiff instead of X, so I went with regular rather than my usual stiff. After only a month I'm convinced I made the right decision.

  • @wkndwarrior4733
    @wkndwarrior4733 Год назад +1

    Does KBS not make a tour graphite shaft?

  • @scottdawes3509
    @scottdawes3509 Год назад

    I play MMT 95 stiff in my Callaway TCB's and the flight, feel and feedback is awesome. Still play steel in wedges as the control of distance etc was not as good when testing the MMT shafts.

    • @canyonaro
      @canyonaro Год назад

      Funny I have Modus 105 in my irons but I've been testing Steelfiber i95 and Recoil 110 in my wedges.
      Steelfiber are the worst feeling graphite I've tried but most accurate. The Recoil 110 feels SO smooth but it's definitely a little looser.

  • @jamesbosuego
    @jamesbosuego Год назад +1

    sticking with my SF i110x CWs. great video. Velecore is snake oil for the price. We needed this video

    • @canyonaro
      @canyonaro Год назад

      Velocore definitely isn't snake oil. Ventus has dominated global tours. But is it worth the price at iron speeds & shaft lengths? Doesn't look like it.

    • @jamesbosuego
      @jamesbosuego Год назад

      @@canyonaro $300 for a driver shaft is snake oil. they even proved it against the OEM non Velecore version. We're not robots. Just bc staff players game it doesnt mean its worth $300 to the non pros. You can buy a "$300" shaft from 10 years ago for $60 bucks today. good enough for tiger back then right?

    • @canyonaro
      @canyonaro Год назад

      @@jamesbosuego The Diamana Blue Board is still an excellent shaft. I'm still playing an Aldila NV65 in my 3-wood & that design is 20 years old. There's plenty of good old stuff around but that doesn't mean the new stuff is crap.
      Also, Tiger plays Ventus Black now. X100 was good enough for his driver in 1996. Doesn't mean it's the best thing out there now.

    • @jamesbosuego
      @jamesbosuego Год назад

      @@canyonaro i bit drastic to compare the X100 to the Ventus lol. My point still applies. Ill put a blue board over a Ventus blue any day. Keep the $250 in my pocket.

  • @GregoryGroce-g8f
    @GregoryGroce-g8f 3 месяца назад

    Steelfiber I-95 shafts with the T 2019 T 300 heads are straight butter. I cannot hit a better iron than what I have right now. I would pay good money if you could but I feel like I can do anything that I need to do with this combo.

  • @ronlangfus4946
    @ronlangfus4946 Год назад +1

    Another great review. Please don’t forget the mid handicappers. How about a 95gm graphite iron shaft test. I’m sure way more than 70% who view your videos are over 10 handicaps. Thanks.

    • @canyonaro
      @canyonaro Год назад

      Steelfiber i95cw. All you need.

  • @jasonmiller4080
    @jasonmiller4080 Год назад +1

    UST Recoils would be another to try in this mix up. Appreciate the video though

  • @GeoffAskewGolf
    @GeoffAskewGolf Год назад

    have a set of TZi waiting for the right head. Cant wait to build them.

  • @GoFast865
    @GoFast865 Год назад

    Very interesting seeing all these graphite iron shafts coming to market. I may finally consider switching to graphite.

  • @steveprevost8746
    @steveprevost8746 Год назад

    I’ve went with UST Mamiya recoil prototype 125X in my Callaway Rogue St Pro built straight by Callaway. Even though it’s not a new release, these shafts been out for a while… I’m wandering how they compare to these in the test. Really happy about the results so far!! And curiously it seems they don’t offer it anymore on the rogues. Was a 20$ upgrade by shaft. Great video again guys 👊🏻🏌🏻

  • @briankelly9318
    @briankelly9318 7 месяцев назад

    Earlier this year in Jan / feb, I went thru a fitting in the willowbrook store and the fitter recommended steel fiber shafts. So I went ahead and had my Taylor made stealth irons 4-pw re-done with steel fiber 95g shafts.
    It’s now may, and I’ve play 6 rounds and I’m finding that I’ve lost distance on almost every iron club.
    What can I do because I’m really frustrated. I’m starting to feel like the fitter got it wrong in the recommendation.
    Looking for a suggestion

  • @cliffordbuttermore2883
    @cliffordbuttermore2883 Год назад

    I had MMT 105 TX last year, built by a fitter I completely trust and kept having issues with them breaking. The course I play is usually very firm and that may have contributed but I typically only play twice a week now and very little range time. Above avg but not crazy swing speed, game about 115 with the driver.
    Curious if you have seen those issues with the MMT as well? Went back to nippon, simply because I don’t trust that the graphite to hold up over time. Performance was outstanding.

  • @youngunz42
    @youngunz42 Год назад

    I put axiom 105x in a set of p770/p7mc I play +1” and they are great mix of performance and feel without making my overall build and swing weight being super heavy. Got d4 on the set with modus120x they were like d9

    • @patrickroberts3530
      @patrickroberts3530 Год назад

      @youngunz42 Try a strip of lead tape under the grip section if you wanna lower the Swing Weight for your setup.. I have the same shafts with P790s 5-PW and they were D8-9 swing weight until we added the tape.

    • @Independent-Thought
      @Independent-Thought 6 месяцев назад

      How did the axioms feel flex wise to the modus 120 ?

  • @WeimaranersAreTheBest
    @WeimaranersAreTheBest Год назад +1

    Do the same test tomorrow but change the order .
    See what chart shows

  • @MrKillahippo
    @MrKillahippo 11 месяцев назад

    had a game today, I play Srixon Z785, 105 steel shafts, My buddy had PXG 0311T , don't remember if it was 2,3 or 4 model. anyway, I asked if I could hit his 4 iron, Wow, I was surprised, Don't think the 4 had teh same distance as my 5Iron, but the feel of the swing was super, lighter, easier, and much straighter. were as my normal swing with the steel, is a draw and often more than expected. I took his 8Iron into the green at 138m up the hill, again ,straight as I've always wanted to do, but with out the manipulation. I'm in love with the PXG but the shafts are what makes them good, I believe it was the MMT 80 S.. Would you know if going to those Graphite shaft would make a difference on my 785'?? 20g lighter, would it help me feel the head better??

  • @ChrisD-kl3jb
    @ChrisD-kl3jb Год назад

    Have you guys ever tested scuffed/cart path balls? Does the damage really hurt performance? Can a scuffed ball be teed up in a way to actually provide an advantage? Would love to see that.

    • @matm6916
      @matm6916 Год назад

      Friction kills distance and also adds curve bias mate. Watch pros switch balls first chance they get if a ball gets scuffed

  • @huntermengel1027
    @huntermengel1027 4 месяца назад

    Which profile would be most comparable to DG X100?

  • @dsloan9561
    @dsloan9561 Год назад +2

    This video would be that bit better if you shared the profiles of each of the shafts or at least how they compare to each other. Ian mentioned the idea (EI profiles) in the video actually.

  • @richrebugio1789
    @richrebugio1789 Год назад

    Right now I’m playing the MMT 125 S. What would be the equivalent Axiom? On Fujikura site they don’t have an Axiom 125 in a stiff. Only XStiff

  • @freddym6643
    @freddym6643 Год назад +2

    Nelly hits driver 270 and 6 iron 187. Further than most male amateurs, and not terribly far off Ian's yardages. And obviously she's way way more accurate and consistent. She plays the steelfiber in 80 gram stiff flex. So even if there are good graphite options in "tour weights" don't write off lighter graphite options even for better players.

    • @nickjohnson3622
      @nickjohnson3622 Год назад +2

      Nelly might be able to go 270, but no way near an average. She's more 255, especially since she switched to TM.

    • @jordancalanchini3496
      @jordancalanchini3496 Год назад

      @@nickjohnson3622255 carry probably 270
      Total is what he means

  • @avg__dad
    @avg__dad 5 месяцев назад

    was a 7 iron used for testing?

  • @hbyrdut
    @hbyrdut Год назад

    Kind of out of left field but does the ball spin less off of a mat than it does on the grass?

  • @ssubotai
    @ssubotai Год назад

    Do you make graphite iron sets longer than the non graphite (steel shafts) sets or do you keep them the same length?

  • @bobkirkwood2992
    @bobkirkwood2992 Год назад

    I’ve frequency tested Steelfiber. They are very tip stiff! They could stand to put less steel fiber in the tip end

  • @pontusjohansson7143
    @pontusjohansson7143 Год назад

    Can someone answer me do you cut the tip on lagolf L series?

  • @MichaelM-to4sg
    @MichaelM-to4sg Год назад

    How would the Axiom compare w/TZI with a more traditional weight head, ie my Miura’s. I too am sensitive to swingweight and prefer D3.5-D4. Would I need to go down in shaft weight, I’m not averse to the 105 weight class, to achieve my target swingweight w/o adding counterweight in butt. My current shafts are Modus 120S, I’m trying to reduce vibrations that will allow me to play more than once a week w/o elbow pain.
    Thx guys, great vid as always. So appreciate Ian’s insights

  • @JLong2544
    @JLong2544 2 месяца назад

    I have been to several well known chain club fitters but none of them adjust the swing weights like Ian suggested. They let you hit each shaft about 3 times and move on to the next one. They don’t spend time with you to find out the right swing weight..distance and ball speed are the only 2 indicators that they look at. Spent a lot of money with them but I don’t get the best value …

  • @michaelsmoot5200
    @michaelsmoot5200 Год назад

    Mikey, go straight to the build shop. New irons and shafts for Ian. Tight schedule. MMT 125 TX on course money maker.

  • @harrykorver9690
    @harrykorver9690 Год назад

    Confuses me. Got fitted in steelfiber 110 gram stiff with mp20mmc. Now 61 years young so according to your info the would be too hefty for me. Play off 7.. should i go lighter?

    • @TheDeepsilver
      @TheDeepsilver Год назад +1

      Weight it almost always more important than flex...if 110 is what you swing best, that's your number. You can always go 110 Regular if you prefer a softer feel

    • @lawbinson
      @lawbinson Год назад +2

      If you got fitted, then you should have what you need already…

  • @adamspencer9280
    @adamspencer9280 Год назад

    I've only ever played graphite, my first set of clubs was a ex demo set of Ping Zing Copper with Novus CFP 57 red graphite shaft. No real point to this comment beyond me remembering the Copper Zings with the Red shafts, boy they stood out, and people would stop to watch me hit shoots, luckily at the time, near on 30 years ago I was a decent golfer.

  • @Frank-yx1np
    @Frank-yx1np Год назад

    What best shaft will replace S300 TT?

  • @doch5061
    @doch5061 Год назад

    Can you test the new KBS GPS Graphite putter shaft?

  • @ryanmcbeth7506
    @ryanmcbeth7506 Год назад

    What about Recoil Dart or Dart V?

  • @hungjy
    @hungjy Год назад

    Good stuff as always. I am curious about one thing. It probably doesn't matter since carry distance is the important number anyway, but it doesn't seem right for the LA shaft to roll out so much more than the other shafts (7 yds vs 2 to 3 for the others). It has the highest launch, spin and descent angle (descent angle not shown in video but should be highest also due to highest launch and spin).

    • @embo85
      @embo85 Год назад

      Missed green on a few and therefore bigger bounces. When a GIR it was only two yards

  • @lawbinson
    @lawbinson Год назад

    For the average golfer, I’ve like the Ping stock options of late.

  • @ConnorLyon
    @ConnorLyon Месяц назад

    The LA Golf Bryson series iron shaft should get a review.

  • @JP-ke7tt
    @JP-ke7tt 2 месяца назад

    Steelfiber made me excited to play golf again

  • @rodneygreenwell7620
    @rodneygreenwell7620 Год назад

    I'm very surprised you didn't include UST mamiya recoil shafts in this review.

  • @stevenjames9487
    @stevenjames9487 Год назад

    It is getting hotter in the South. Do you guys notice the shaft giving more flexibility when temperatures reach 90 degrees or above??

    • @ConnorLyon
      @ConnorLyon Год назад

      I have not noticed my shafts do that at all.

  • @ABEugenio
    @ABEugenio Год назад +2

    Dart V gonna get a run?

  • @daddyharry6065
    @daddyharry6065 Год назад

    Will graphite though ever get that sunshine glint of a steel shaft? ☀️🤗

  • @joshmacias4151
    @joshmacias4151 Год назад

    Great video ! Insightful

  • @dabdias
    @dabdias Год назад

    Prosendr backswing?

  • @Kyle-zw6jy
    @Kyle-zw6jy Год назад

    Review the new snell balls vs pro v1

  • @alphawolf008
    @alphawolf008 Год назад

    It looked like the steel fiber had the most toe drop compared to the others. I know Ian used to have this, but the steel fiber was a degree to 2 degrees more than the others.

  • @southpawjohnny5969
    @southpawjohnny5969 Год назад

    Good stuff guys! 🤙Now if you could do the same test in REG and STIFF flex

  • @lucascarman2578
    @lucascarman2578 Год назад

    I was thinking about getting graphite shafts in my irons and trying to be on the cutting edge, but the price is just not worth it since there's not real obvious advantage

  • @garymutch601
    @garymutch601 Год назад

    Pretty poor guys I’m sitting waiting to watch the Q&A live in Glasgow and when it starts I get cut out. What’s the deal with this one.
    I’m booked in for a fitting with my wife in a few weeks in Glasgow and might change my mind now after this treatment. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @brockdalton8641
    @brockdalton8641 Год назад

    Great review 😊

  • @FlyboyAF22
    @FlyboyAF22 Год назад +5

    Mikey had a Biden moment.... "Obviously, you can't hear sound" 🤣🤣🤣
    Absolutely love my Steelfiber i110 Private Reserve X shafts! Have them now in all 4 iron sets and the wedges.....

  • @darrelle.thompson540
    @darrelle.thompson540 Год назад

    Love my Steelfiber Shafts but im going to Project X LZ

  • @rickhammel9541
    @rickhammel9541 Год назад

    did I miss it, or did you not mention what iron you're using (as in 7 or 6 or whatever, not brand) you never really seem to say which loft you're using on a lot of your tests, just a suggestion.

  • @ScottDreyfus
    @ScottDreyfus Год назад

    Got out and hit Axiom 125x in my Callaway UT 18. It’s stout but in a good way. I hit 10 balls down a par 4 today and you could throw a blanket over 8 of them. It’s much closer in feel to Fuji pro than Ventus HB. It’s a different flight. Definitely coming out of a higher window than Ventus HB 10TX did. Not going to lie I thought Ventus HB was a little sloppy. I had to build a 1/4 under at 39.25 to get the sw down to d4.5. It was d8 of the rip at 39.5

  • @MXJEFF94
    @MXJEFF94 Год назад

    I'm going to donate my left kidney and buy the Axiom shafts in my next iron set. They are the real deal with Velocore.

  • @michaelsmoot5200
    @michaelsmoot5200 Год назад

    MMT 125 TX sound at impact …alone draws tour like attention

  • @ILoveGreatThings
    @ILoveGreatThings 6 месяцев назад

    Graphite shafts also easier on the joints, a huge benefit I think

  • @joshualin6971
    @joshualin6971 Год назад

    I just got LA golf 105x A series iron shafts, went on course and had a blast with it. I realize that it is a LOT lighter in swing weight, but given that the grips I use are around 43 grams, all of them come out to be around D2 in swing weight, which works very well for me. Due to the special grips I use (jumbomax ultralite xs), I usually have to add counterbalance weights at the grip end of the club, or else the swing weight is in the high Ds. Now with LAGP, my club is overall lighter and with a reasonable swing weight. Does this sound like it is a good fit for me?

  • @benplaunt44
    @benplaunt44 Год назад

    I tried mitsubishi chemical OTI 120x, and they are really stiff.

  • @1975marcw
    @1975marcw Год назад

    Be good to see a comparison against your gamer steel shafts.

  • @d2clag
    @d2clag Год назад +1

    High use of Steel Fiber on LPGA.

  • @freddym6643
    @freddym6643 Год назад +3

    No UST Mamiya love

  • @mikeyj323
    @mikeyj323 Год назад

    I’ve played LA golf shafts last season and broke a shaft every other month at the head. I am a digger with a steep fast swing but I don’t think graphite durability is on the same level as steel just yet.

  • @speedinon
    @speedinon Год назад +1

    I need a 40 gram shaft. :(

  • @saintpatrick6681
    @saintpatrick6681 Год назад

    buy a set of each. I did

  • @ccarlock8537
    @ccarlock8537 Год назад

    .5 less tip on tzi for me and holly smash

  • @autumnstar9475
    @autumnstar9475 Год назад

    Yesssssss

  • @socalgolf9978
    @socalgolf9978 Год назад

    Shaftoids won’t let their egos play graphite lol

  • @srooch2
    @srooch2 Год назад

    If you are on the fence about graphite, please try them. I absolutely love them substantially more than steel. ✌️

  • @rowdyroddy519
    @rowdyroddy519 Год назад +1

    Which feels closest to Dynamic Gold?

    • @michaelharrop4155
      @michaelharrop4155 Год назад

      I've played MMTs and SF. Played DG S300 most of my life and IMO SF feel and perform very close to DG for me. Ball flight with my SFs is very similar.