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Let's get something straight, Batman is THE MOST popular comic book hero of all time. Even more than Superman or Spider-Man. While those aforementioned superheroes are certainly titans of pop culture, no hero has captured the imaginations of comic book readers, cinephiles, casual movie goeers, and, most importantly, filmmakers the way the world's greatest detective has. And that keyword, detective, might just offer us a clue as to why people love Batman why directors love Batman and are drawn to telling stories about him. Unlike say a Spider-Man or Wolverine, Batman was a hero informed not just by pulpy adventure fiction, but detective fiction, noir stories. His very origin began in a series of comics quite literal called Detective Comics. Because of this cross pollination of genres, Batman affords filmmakers the latitude to tell an infinite number of possible Batman stories. It's why something like The Dark Knight can exist alongside interpretations such as Batman Forever and Batman & Robin. There are varying degrees to which Batman can exist on screen and a lot of that comes down to which elements of the characters origin drew filmmakers to him. That malleability also allows varying degrees of auteurs to come in and bput their distinct stamp on the caped crusader. It's fascinating that directors like Tim Burton, Joel Schumacher, Christopher Nolan, Zack Snyder, and now Matt Reeves are itching to and invested in telling Batman stories and not Captain America or Spider-Man stories. There's an innately cinematic quality to the character that makes him far more than just a comic book hero. Griffin (@griffschiller) unravels this thread and explores some of the deeper reasons as to why directors love Batman or why filmmakers love Batman, why Batman is the best superhero, and why Batman is so popular. Enjoy our Batman analysis or Batman video essay!
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I think its because each filmmaker can give its unique spin on batman. Tim Burton was moody and tragic. Christopher Nolan was gritty and realistic. Zack Snider was very character heav. While joel Schumacher was camp and silly like adam west.
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Him, the joker, and all the other villains can be reinterpreted however you want
I always subconsciously knew that filmmakers are drawn closer to Batman more than any other comic book character (even filmmakers who are not a fan of superhero movies), but I didn't clearly realize this until I saw your video.
Your reason is correct as well. Batman's stories are superhero tales only once in a while because most of the time, they actually deal with street-level crime.
One thing I like about Batman is that he can be translated for any genre in Cinema. Comedy, tragedy, mystery, investigation, detective, action, adventure, horror, superhero, sci fi, you name it. He can be campy, dark, or real and can be great in all of them. Batman is the most versatile of them all ❤️
thats the sad part superman got the short stick... heck other heroes gone to obscure, is why i love james gun movie series he focus not popular well known character since, and why i love DCAU they done good job balance all character... not put 100% on batman like fuk now im hate batman... love for that character just gone since everybody just want to do batman movie.
@@Salty010 i would say superman is still popualr he still has the cw show and thats well liked
@@Salty010 honestly the hate you have for batman is colossaly ignorant and nonsensical. For real
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"Mystery" and "investigation" is just "detective".
Some people may not understand how popular batman is outside the US, where I grew up people didn't know what comic books are or superhero characters and all that, yet we still knew batman is, and perhaps equally superman, more with kids tho, we wanted to fly like him. As I grew up batman became my favorite fiction character.
My dad grew up in the boonies of South Korea. He said he always watched Batman with the local kids around the one TV in the rich kid’s house in the 70s!
In my country it's Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, and Hulk who were the most popular before the 2010s.
@@rp-wn5or That’s cool!
In India, he is the 3rd most popular superhero after Superman and Spiderman
I see that many people when talking about Batman movies don't consider the Lego Batman movie as they should, it is pretty different from the other ones, it's true but still the movie is really good Batman story
That movie is very underrated.
I don’t get the following this movie has. It was alright, but really not that great.
@@user-wo5tc9ux7u Definitely not for everyone. I love lego, and Batman. So a lego Batman comedy was great. Plus, it’s awesome how the movie is made like a child is playing Lego’s.
@@user-wo5tc9ux7u i can't rlly explain it just hits some ppl harder than others just like everything else
Indeed. Honestly one of my favorites beside TDK trilogy and now Da Batman 😆
I watched The Batman. It's primarily a crime/mystery noir film. Matt Reeves' take on Batman's character is about him learning to have more hope, be more empathetic and compassionate, learn more self-control of his anger, and learn to also channel his trauma into more positive things. It's the start of the transition from vigilante to hero.
Don't expect Batman in the film to be a super smart detective or fighter though. He isn't dumb by any means, but he is show as still clearly inexperienced and naive in many ways. I don't say that as a criticism.
The film really captures a Gotham with personality, out of this world. And it's primarily a slow-burn crime/mystery noir than an action movie. Loved that.
You also have to watch it on a good theater. So many theaters have shitty sound that you can barely understand the dialogue, and also shitty resolution, color contrast and clarity in the image. A film like The Batman specially demands a good theater, because otherwise the dark cinematography gets ruined. I speak from experience.
I think atmosphere, cinematography and characterization are easily the film's biggest virtues.
This comment cannot be stressed enough. Great characterisation of a great movie that deserves the attention it needs.
So in short people if you can watch The Batman in an Imax saloon, watch it there.
I'm starting to see James Bond the same way. He's always been very malleable, with the tones of films varying wildly throughout his 60 years on screen. The difference is that's its only been very recently with Daniel Craig's run that we've seen several auteur directors jumping into the franchise.
You’re catching on to a topic for a future😏 Batman and Bond are yin and yang in a MANY ways.
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They're like played by different actors each decade.
@@har5814 Yep, part of what makes both characters so malleable too. Lots of different actors, who all play the character differently.
Yeah still James Bond still does not go the extreme batman can go. I mean the difference between 66 batman and modern batman interpretations is like day & night. Whereas the campiest Roger Moore Bond films were still pretty dark and serious.
I'm awfully glad you make this video. Batman is one of my favorite characters of all time. And I'm glad there is a video out there just celebrating him and his movies. Not focusing on public opinions of each, just the intentions of the filmmakers and their love for the character. Great video 👍
I am so proud that you acknowledged what made “Batman Forever” special
Batman and Spider-Man have been redone so many times because they are the most relatable and normal superheros you can find imo. Relatability and Versimilitude is a huge seĺling point for modern audiences. Batman Forever btw like Raimi's Spider-Man 3 is a movie I can enjoy just how bombastic and self aware of how OTT , funny and insane it is . Batman and Robin and TASM 2 I'm not so keen on.
@@TheSt1092 Tasm 2 was mediocre but batman and robin is utter trash
@@mrvengeance7825 are you trying to start a war lol
@@TheSt1092 now when it comes to that New York and Gotham were up to this only sueprhero films that has all the centerpiece of evetns taking place that has character
He thinks batman was homoerotic in batman forever. He never was that in any interpretation. This guy is a pretentious hipster
Superman is the most recognized world wide. Spider-man sells the most action figures and toys, but Batman is the favorite among comic book readers, and that's why his character hasn't been rebooted. I agree with everything you say, but I wanted to add my two cents.
Facts.
Yeah, Bats, Supes, and Spidey are the 3 most iconic superheroes of all time. They all share the number 1 spot of most famous comic book characters.
Correct in terms of the most lucrative comic book characters it's 1. Spider-Man 2. Batman 3. Superman
Spiderman actually sells the most comics lol.
I’ve always liked bat family chacrters more than Batman they r more interesting
The performances in The Dark Knight solidified my love for film and especially Batman. I think part of his allure is the regularness of his superheroism, he's not endowed with any special powers, he's just "rich, rich and nuts" to quote Pete Holmes Batman. Noire film lives on forever through The Batman
I had a fan experience & an opportunity to watch the Batman. What an awesome introduction to an even more grounded, young and restless Bruce Wayne. With only two years for young Batman the film is dark, it’s gritty and it’s all about the detective work. This is why we all love Batman, because he has so many layers up on layers to explore. Matt Reeves just revolutionized the Riddler. Paul Dano was amazing, pretty much every cast is amazing. What I really like is that the film shows us how young Batman is scared to even fly off high rise buildings stil, but also throws out his body with no hesitation to enemy bullets, sometimes not being able to control his anger during a fight. He gets shot in the chest, punched in the head and doesn’t give in. But above all it haunts him to see anyone get hurt because he’s still affected by the death of his parents. The cinematography is amazing, and boy the city of Gotham is just on another level. You’ll get scared to even pass by the city let alone live there. Shows the true nature of corruption and political deceives. Reeves created a unique Batman sets just as Nolan’s was different than Tim Burton, as well as for Zack Snyders Batman. Each directors build their own unique elements and universe for the Batman. Perhaps the greatest advantage is that character Batman is so versatile and any director can interpret it based on the excellent comic books written. DC needs to focus on these kind of movies because honestly they’re just perfect. I’m hoping we will get another amazing trilogy if it continues like this. My respects to all the previous and current directors for giving us different types of Batman. I really like all the Batman iterations since 2005. (Baleman, Batfleck. & Battison).
Subbed instantly when he said " you know how much I love the amazing Spider-Man " great video btw!!! Never thought of that but it makes sense. Batman movies have always been a genres of itself.
Hope Matt Reeves gets to do a sequel and takes on Mr Freeze
On top of the masterful analysis of pop culture, this video taught me that the reason why I've been working on a Batman story in my personal time despite liking spiderman slightly more is that I am, in fact, an auteur :)
I think the tone of Gotham is definitive. It's setting is timeless, both gritty and goofy, has amazing heart and sadness, boasts soo many genres that Batman has existed in simultaniously without breaking immersion and has a colorful cast of characters that you can love to hate or simply love.
Not gonna lie if there is any movie I'd want to make a movie on it would be Batman....I feel like most aspiring Directors would say that in a heart beat and almost every actor wants to play the caped crusader😂
I like what Zack tried to do with bats it's so satisfying to see him complete his arc through bvs and the Snyder cut
You liked that he tried to strip everything away that made the character Batman? Cool.
In order to build him back up in ZSJL. There was clear reasoning behind his divisive decisions. It certainly won't be for everyone, but I don't think that means he misunderstands Batman.
@@FilmSpeak I truly appreciate seeing comments like these. Definitely divisive but the idea that Zack doesn't understand the character has been so tiring to hear over the years. I'm glad that the Snyder Cut exists now and people actually see what he was doing with the character. I think everyone expected a movie called Batman v Superman to not make one of them the villain, even though the film makes it clear that this is not normal behavior for him. And you know who wanted this villainous Batman? WB. They even wanted him to brand Luthor, undoing the arc the film put him on. Zack was just making the best of a bad situation and as a lifelong Batman fan, I think he did an amazing job.
@@FilmSpeak when does Ben Affleck ever learn that killing is bad?????????????
@@waxilliamladrian lol Snyder did nooooot understand the characters of Batman or Superman at all,
In the Batman'66 show, Bruce mentions the death of his parents as the driving force behind his bat-themed war against criminals in the first episode, so I don't think you need to count it as an exception. I kind of understand why you don't want to class it with the Serious Interpretations. However, it couldn't be MORE "auteur"; its unique stylized approach, like it or not, saved the character at the time and is part of the reason he was around for all these later interpretations.
Agreed. It's this version that made the character a truly global phenomenon and household name. Batmania started with Batman '66.
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Good on you for acknowledging that Snyder is also an auteur, not a studio hack like many others claim :)
at last someone not obsessed with ranking the Batmen. Batman is a genre. I like that
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I agree! I have something to add to this conversation if you’ll hear it out. You’re right to point out the outlier as Batman ‘66. To me Batman 1966 is the quintessential Batman which all the Batman movies have used as inspiration or are in conversation with apart from Batman VS Superman. I agree you can do anything with Batman- but I personally prefer the versions of Batman that take inspiration from 1960s Batman and the comics because they feel like the same character with different takes whereas in BVS, Ben Affleck’s Batman is just a glorified anti hero that is not quite the same idea as the other Batmen taking inspiration entirely from the aesthetic and not the actual character (apart from Frank Miller’s Dark Knight Returns version). So I like that BVS did this because it’s an interesting comparison- it has sort of destroyed the character of Batman which was what Snyder was aiming to do and then rebuild in Justice League. It doesn’t quite work for me because it’s not subjective enough and the camera glorifies Batman equally as much in BVS and the Snyder Cut. Anyway, this is why I’m excited for The Batman because it’s an even darker take that still seems partly inspired by 60s Batman. I’d argue that while there’s not an ‘auteur’ vision per say on Batman 66- it is a almost parodical comedic take on the character different to the comics that defines the character in a more satisfying way than what feels like a pointless deconstruction of Batman in BVS. So I think Batman is a character that you can do any genre with- but some filmmakers have totally different Batman characters- when really you can keep the same 60s version of Batman and create similar different versions that still apply to different stories and visions. Don’t know if that made sense 😂
No I COMPLETELY get what you’re saying and it’s absolutely spot on (even as someone who really took to Snyder’s take and thought it worked). Thanks for typing all that out. Excellent response!
@@FilmSpeak thank you
"I’d argue that while there’s not an ‘auteur’ vision per say on Batman 66- it is a almost parodical comedic take on the character different to the comics"
Maybe you mean different to modern comics? Coz the show wasn't at all different to the comics that existed during that time. I'd say it was pretty damn faithful to the comics of the 60s in terms of tone and silliness, but I agree that they turned the dial way up and into parody territory. That's not a criticism, though. I think the campy, self-aware Batman '66 is stupidly brilliant and charming. 😄 Having said that, I also think Zack Snyder's Batman is just as valid an interpretation as any other. Not a fan of Schumacher's Batman and Robin, but I know some people love it and that's cool too.
@@jerm5 yes that’s what I meant they’re faithful but that faithfulness comes across as (and was) parody in live action.
i am glad you included zack snyder's batman because that is my favorite version.
Definitely my favorite too. I think they all bring a lot to the table though
@@tacobell4542 highly agreed and that's what's so great about the various depictions of batman that they all feel different but still resemble the core of the character
@@91MoonKnight definitely
One of Spider-Man’s greatest stories is Kravens Last Hunt, the melding of genres is definitely still applicable to this character…like it is to almost all street level heroes.
Try doing a detective noir tgriller like the batman with all moody and seriousness. As good as spiderman noir is it doesent quite break tge mold and I am sure it might not be well received. Whrereas the lego batman movie and as the video said batman forevee were box office success. (PS: I'm not shitting on spiderman but batman is tooooo versatile and malleable.) Also no daredevil won't be because he is limited in scope you know being a b list hero in maevel.
We just need a Teen Batman, oh wait there's Batman Beyond
ITA batman always felt like something different to all other major heroes be it marvel or dc he is something different....being more street level and just alot of his stories etc you can make material with him that does not feel or look like the typical superhero stuff.....of the larger dc and marvel universes....I imagine that has to appeal to directors who don't have to worry about incorporating other stuff and characters they couldn't careless about...im really grateful batman movies took off way before the era of cinematic universes it really shows the difference directors can make burton, schumacher nolan and reeves all vastly different
Batman walks to his own beat.
In my opinion, I think it’s Batman’s iconography is what makes so many people want to make a movie about him, either in direct to Dvd movies like Under the red hood or a mainstream film. While I would like to see other B list characters like Ratcatcher, Polka dot man or Green Lantern in more films, Id still pay tickets to see new Batman films
I just want Shinichiro Watanabe to have a Changes to make his own Batman take, if he can make Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo put a lot of Genre into one Series and it might be Good.
Don’t forget writers like Paul Dini who wrote batman Arkham games, the comics by Scott Snyder, Frank miller, Alan Moore, Bill finger, Bob Kane, Leslie H. Martinson, Sefton Hill the director of Batman Arkham games.
You forgot to mention Paul Dini the writer if Batman animated series and both Batman Arkham asylum and city
Wow one of the best videos I've come across in years that talks about this topic. So many well articulated points 👏👏
I love each batman because they all offer something different and cool.
I would love if we could have some less serious versions of batman in the movies. Maybe having some of the batfamily too. We have had loner Batman for decades now
The pendulums bound to swing in the opposite direction eventually, though I will say, I think for as serious as the new Batman is, it’s also got a fair bit of camp and comic bookiness to it.
I want vampire Batman
Can someone please tell the 1st background music used??
I really need it prepare my college presentation. Pleaseeeeee
Really like this video man, and personally Bale and Fleck are my favorite versions.
0:34 that title actually goes to Spider-Man, who had more worldwide merchandise sales in 2021 than all of the Avengers, Superman, and Batman...combined.
Cuz teen love spiderman more than batman ,but adult loves batman more
You could put Batman in Scream and he would fit. Ghostface is a villian that would definitely fit with Batman. Sidney Prescott along side Batman in a Scream movie would be iconic.
I hate it when people say that they are 1000s of ways to interpret a batman. Batman has an identity and there is a definitive set of traits batman has across almost every interpretation. No Batman is a poster child for traumatic growth. A terrible meaningless and senseless tragedy happened to him but instead of being controlled by his fate, he took control of the situation and transformed into the best version of himself. He set goals for himself and trained himself to peak mental and physical perfection. *When we step back to gaze long upon the great Batman tapestry, when we look for the common thread woven through it by Kane, Finger, Fox, O’Neil, Englehart, and that endless line of creators, those who have come and gone as well as those who are still weaving, what do we see? We see a hero. We see someone we’d want on our side, a figure we’d love to call forth from our shadows and hurl at those who would do us wrong. We see that part of ourselves that wants to scare all of life’s bullies away*
and we like it. He is driven. He is like a revolutionary who stands up to tyrants or the activists who fight against great odds to make this world a better place. Out of tragedy, great good can arise. Horrible events have spurred individuals like the founder of MADD on to great, albeit unusual, achievements. They discovered their lives’ missions.
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Because he is ultra mega popular and people demand movies. Studios demand money, so they hire filmmakers to do what is being asked for
In a recent interview Sami Rami said that he would like to make a Batman movie. The director who made greatest spiderman/Peter Parker movie spiderman 2. I remember that even Russo brothers said same thing three years ago. Batman franchise attract top quality skills in industry and also because of that the pressure to make any Batman related project is very heavy. Batman franchise includes joker movie too, since that movie had Waynes as one of main characters. I remember people in theaters loosing their minds when Arthur/Joker met very young Bruce Wayne.
The second I saw Zacks face in the title I knew, people would be arguing about him and his interpretation of Batman. And it's only ever him. No one ever complains about Nolan's Batman being more like Superman. Or Shumockers not being dark enough. It's always just Zack dosent understand Batman, because he made him dark. And everytime I hear that I cringe. ITS BATMAN. This video is literally about how he is allowed to have different interpretations. Not meaning any one is wrong, just different. And if you shit on Zacks Bat because he's different. Then it is YOU who misses the point. And, can we please just be honest for once. He's really not that different of a Batman. Like seriously. He's bruding but smart, he's got the gadgets and the cool suit. He's mysterious and is viewed as a creature of the night by his enemy's as he wanted to be. Him going a little to far over the line is the entire point of his arc in that movie. Batman is allowed to be interpreted differently. That's half of what makes the character interesting. It is as Christopher Nolan once said "Batman is a character who thrives on reinterpretation." It is what makes him unique. And I love the fact that tons of great directors are getting a chance to do something different with the Bat. You may not like it each time. But you have to at the bear minimum, respect their artistic vision. And because st the end of the day that is what movies are, art. You don't have to like the art all the time, that's why it's "subjective". But you have to at least respect the intent behind it. Just simply trying to create something new.
Nah Batman being dark is perfect...
Once Batman kills people it's not even the same character. Snyder never read a comic in his life lmao
Amen dude 🙏🏻 thank you for taking the time to write this out! 100% on the money.
@@Courier_333 Keaton's Batman killed people as well, but somehow I don't see anyone complaining about it, Bale's Batman killed people when he blew up the league's temple, where are complaints about that? And I think I remember Kilmer's Batman setting someone on fire with Batmobile's flamethrowers. West and Clooney are pretty much the only ones that never killed anyone, at least as far as I know.
@@RaRmAn yes, every love action Batman has been incredibly inaccurate to the comics.
Tim Burton infamously said he doesn't like comic books
@@Courier_333 zack snyder actually grew up with comic books when he was 5 and proof is vero Social app.
And just because his batman kills that does NoT mean, He misunderstood him.
One sentence: CAUSE HE'S BATMAN
Because he is Batman
I think that Superman is still the most widely recognisable Superhero worldwide, in the US batman might be more popular but not in Europe or Africa
This is such a good analysis. Batman is a special character, you can look at basically every pop culture product and there's some excellent Batman there. Animation? Yes. Comics? Yes. Video games? Yes. Film? Oh fuck yes.
I think a lot of us saw this even as children. Batman is DIFFERENT. I love all superheroes, but there is only one Batman. Long live the king.
I like batman to
can we now have a batman rom com?
I also love Batman
This video deserves endless applause. ❤️
17:59 - 18:06 This is a fundamental and gross mischaracterization of batman. Batman being a disturbed man beating up villains is not a nuanced psychological take on batman. Dressing up as a bat is a superhero trope. All superheroes dress up in a ridiculous costume and beat up criminals.
Grant Morrison (famous batman author) on Batman's mental health:
"I never really subscribed to the idea that Bruce was insane or unhealthy. As I've said before, Bruce Wayne's physical and psychological training regimes (including advanced meditation techniques) would tend to encourage a fairly balanced and healthy personality. Bruce Wayne would have gone mad if he HADN'T dressed as a bat and found a startling way to channel the grief, guilt and helplessness he felt after the death of his parents. Without Batman, Bruce would be truly screwed-up but with Batman he becomes mythic, more than human and genuinely useful to his community. I believe he began to slay his demons the moment he became a demon."
Batman is Batman, enough said.
I love this video but totally disagree with your view on the Holland Spider-Man movies, which I would argue understand the Stan Lee comic character better than any other movie version.
Thanks man and fair enough. I think there are parts of MCU spidey that work for me and the best of them were in NWH, but for my money Tobey is closest to the classic version of the character with Andrew almost a direct translation of the Ultimate Spider-Man.
Batman to western filmmakers is what Berserk is to eastern
I am huger massive batman fan since birth
Well simply put it’s because the owners (WB) of the rights of the character (Batman) want to make money
He's not better known than Superman though, but better stories for sure.
With deredevil heading the Disney+ could you do a video essay on the show?
And there is rumors of Sam raimi wanting to make Batman movie is he going to be the next to direct Batman after Matt Reeves’s Batman trilogy ?
Every film maker that made Batman movies never actually read Batman comics tho.
Burton, and Snyder especially
@Erik Kemeey yeah I never saw the Joss version ..
The Snyder cut was incredibly rushed and Batman was boring,
@Erik Kemeey and Batman never learned that killing was wrong.
It was forced as hell
that is not necessarily a bad thing....there are plenty of directors who are fans who make terrible comicbook movies....a good director is way more important then one into comicbooks
@@camm8642 raimi proves this wrong completely
the Definitive Version of Batman to me will Always be Batman: the Animated Series. Need a Prove?
in short: he's dark
💥💥 Batman is not widely more popular than Superman. Batman's probably second but Superman is number one.
Go around the world and ask people hay you know who Superman is everybody will be like yeah. So I don't know where you get that statement from.
A lot of y'all RUclipsrs when y'all be making videos y'all just like saying stuff and throwing crap out there. I'm a Batman fan but Superman is the number one most popular and most recognizable superhero in the world.
Of course, you're not including Joss Whedon in here, because he tried to make Batman into a comedy character in JL.
Well and also…that movie just doesn’t exist 😉
@@FilmSpeak Agreed. 😁👍
Spider-man is massively bigger than Batman, what are you talking about??? Spider-man is no.1 Batman no.2 and Superman no.3.
However Spider-man is so far ahead that Spidey merch outsells both Batman and Superman merch added together, indeed you can add in Spuerman's sales a 2nd time and you still fall short of Spidey.
hoping one day we got visionary good film maker that wanna push superman like all star superman storyline... everybody just looooooooooooooooooooove go for brooding dark like fuk.😒 still im gonna like matt reaves movie since its rare to see a batman movie focus in investigation…
The funny thing is Superman also has the potential to tell the variety of stories Batman does but the cinematic interpretations of him have boxed him in. It’s why MoS was so divisive I reckon.
In my opinion.....because he's easy to write compared to other heroes(he's got no powers to keep in mind, he's rich which means he can use cool gadgets, and he's a single bachelor which gives him time and independence to do what he wants with little restraint) and his call to fame is being a detective.... If you can write a crime/noir story you can write a batman story. Try it. Watch any police procedural and you'll notice how easy it is to implant batman into said plot. I'm not saying he's a bad character.....but I'm saying he's a simple/easy one for casual audiences to enjoy.
If we were all Superhumans in the real World 🌎 Superman would be as popular as The Batman, but we're not so The Batman is the normal because any of us could be The Batman because we're just Human. Poor Superman 🦸♀️ nobody cares about him because we can't relate to a God-like Character.
Shit's on MCU Spider-Man but praises Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.. Yeah okay bud
Yeah that's kinda stupid. Batman and Robin was pure shit
Uh, no he doesn't. He specifically calls B&R a cheesefest at one point. What he does say is that each version is as valid as the other, whether or not people liked it or if it was even a good movie.
*what's up, what's up*
Good vid, but whats with the timestamps?
Are there time stamps?
Oh god I just saw. YT did that automatically what the heck?
@@FilmSpeak you can always count on yt to fuck things up haha
This video lacked sufficient mention of the lego batman movie
haha true! I could've mentioned Mask of the Phantasm or LEGO Batman and the crazy thing is I think the logic/argument still stands. Speaks to Batman's malleability!
@@FilmSpeak Definitely! I agree. The more mature animated Batman movies like Phantasm or The Long Halloween or Under the Red Hood are some of the best animated superhero media out there.
Basically, auteurs love the crime genre. Batman at its heart lives in the crime genre. And then Batman can also participate in other more "superhero" inspired stories.
I think the character really shines in the crime genre, but when you apply him to other superhero stories where he has to fight super-powered villains like Darkseid, the story gets a little too ridiculous. And then you get, "because he's Batman" logic. And that's where my love and respect for the character and his world starts to fall off.
The Dark Knight is among one of my favorite films.
Money
Not more recognised than Superman bro
Spider-Man and Superman are both more recognizable than Batman
the reason why filmmakers love batman because he easy to do and there is no risk of making it
Money 😭
The English have sherlock holmes. The French have arsene lupin.
America has batman
YES! Amen to that
I think your point would've worked better with the MCU as a whole, not with Spider-Man, along with Batman he's generally one of the few respected superheroes for different filmmakers. I don't really agree at all with the dismissal of Marc Webb as a director that definitely has a unique way to make movies, whether people like them or not is another issue entirely. I also didn't like just the overall dismissal of animated material that definitely plays a huge part on the characters' overall reputation and popularity. I liked the video fine, but I just think it's kinda bareboned.
I don't think he was being dismissive of animated material, just that his focus was more on live-action filmmakers. Animated Batman is also pretty extensive, maybe more so, that it would warrant its own video analysis.
@@jerm5 I get what you're saying but the video serves to explain why so many "aeturs" like Batman, and I feel like the animated material also had a lot of influence on Batman's overall reputation: Batman TAS it's called one of the best animated shows for a reason. That's just my opinion tho.
Lol every fan by has their niche.
I prefer Tim Burton, Christopher Nolan, and now... Matt Reeves! TCM/BNR!
Snyder had no understanding of the character. Snyder's Batman, Superman and WonderWoman are the same. They are fantasies of power violence and revenge - not *heroes.*
Couldn't have said it better.
boo hoo
Zack Snyder actually DISLIKES Batman.
Wiou
just say you are bias towords batman
When he said at the very beginning he's a MASSIVE Batman fan, that didn't tip you off?
I hate Batman even more than GL
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He is a great character. I just hope they don’t turn him into a woman or transgender. Nothing wrong with that but it’s not Batman!
Because it's guaranteed to make money.
There, solved it.
Eh not quite the answer lol
Lol if DONE RIGHT they can have my money
Spider-Man is clearly the most famous comicbook character of all time, his merch sells more than everyone else combined.
I think that's because Spidey is more appealing to kids compared to the other heroes, and kids (and their parents) drive merch sales. I'm not saying adults can't like Spidey merch, they do. But I do think kids are the main drivers.
In other words, ZS shouldn't have been given Superman then.
What else do you notice about these names? "They're all white men?" ;)
No they’re Batman
Lmao
True. It's also the same for Superman and Spider-Man though. Would love to see a Barry Jenkins tackle a Superman film.
And that's how woke culture begins 😅
@@mollywoodshots6503 ain't nothing wrong with that
Superman and Spiderman are more famous and regogzinqble than Batman, Batman has more moveis that’s it he is not more famous
Zach Snyder doesn’t understand Batman at all
He doesn't get Superman either.
We're still on this shitty discussion apparently.
Cool opinion bro
Neither you
He definitely does, just because his batman kills.
So pretty much a bunch of bullshit that isn't true
Huh?
Idk how popular Batman is in the US but as someone from a third-world country, Batman is very popular. Since I was a kid everyone in my neighborhood wants to play batman when we play around. The only superhero my parents or a lot of other parents know is Batman and this was during Sam Raimi's spider-man era. A lot of ppl back in the day don't even consider Superman a hero, rather just a strong alien with a cape.
Batman is very popular in US because half of the box office earnings of Batman films generally come from US market. There are some exceptions to this but mostly it is like that. Half of the The Dark Knight box office, half of the The Batman box office. It's a trend with Batman movies.
Same
The cinematic legacy of Batman alone is proof that comic book movies deserve their place in "cinema".
Well, they always have, since Christopher Reeves' Superman.