Sonic Forces: Xbox One X vs Xbox One/ PS4/ Pro + Switch! Comparisons + Frame-Rate Tests!
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- John returns to check out every console version of Sonic Forces. Does PS4 Pro offer any advantages over the standard model? Does Xbox One really run at 720p? And what improvements does Xbox One X offer? Oh yeah, and what about Switch? Discover everything here.
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If Mario Odyssey, MK8 DX, and Splatoon 2 can run at 60fps with better graphics, there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't be running at 60fps at 720p. Sega fix your shit
Actually there is a reason. There's better consoles for it to run on, so the better technologies are on them. Pretty simple
The Mastr What that doesn't even make sense. He's saying it should be able to run on switch at 60 fps 1080p what do other consoles have to do with anything?
Person Guy The fact that, as he said in the video, the Game and Engine itself was never intended for the switch. It's not a first party game as well and was focused on the bigger, more powerful, and more profitable consoles. The switch was an afterthought and graphics aren't the other factors in performance. It's a new game engine and well. More CPU usage is expected, and the switch is gonna be limited there too. It could be 480p and still run at 30fps in that case.
The Mastr Switch has a better CPU than Xbox One and PS4, just a worse GPU.
The Mastr And the worse GPU makes sense as Nintendo wanted the console to be affordable and not waste battery life.
Imagine how a 3ds port would look
mr jam jar like Sonic Unleashed PS2 graphics. The 3DS its more powerful than a PS2/PSP/DC, but weaker than GameCube/Xbox/Wii technically speaking. However, the 3DS has the advantage of more RAM and modern shaders (360/PS3 level, like the PS Vita).
Maybe it'll be a reskin+ of Generations 3DS, most likely going to be handled by Dimps
Todd Rodgers Nah it’s closer to a GameCube
@Retendo since it was released
@@retroboy-fh1ji Kind of. It depends on the type of game. Big open world games like Xenoblade that were built to run on the Wii of course run much better on Wii. It can't even be run on a regular 3DS and even the more powerful New 3DS looks slightly inferior.
However, we have seen many GameCube and Wii games ported / remade on 3DS with minimal sacrifices and sometimes enhancements. Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D was ported over from Wii with minimal cutbacks visually hut a reduced frame rate to 30 fps. Kirby's Epic Yarn had basically no cutbacks. Luigi's Mansion was basically remade for 3DS and has both advantages and disadvantages on the 3DS, but what's important to keep in mind is that the 3DS has to run all these games in 3D, which doubles the horizontal resolution. Not all games have this option, but the ones that do allow for enhancements in 2D mode, we can see framerates increased to 60 FPS and other visual enhancements.
Also as you mentioned the 3DS has much more advanced shaders then GameCube and Wii. Resident Evil Revelations is far beyond comparable games on Wii and GameCube like Resident Evil 4. Street Fighter IV also was able to be ported to 3DS quite well as a launch title when it was deemed infeasible to do it in Wii.
I think generally speaking, multiplatform games on 3DS look worse than they do on Wii. However, I honestly think Resident Evil Revelations as a game built for the 3DS looks superior to any Wii title.
This is just lazy developing
The PS4 pro and Xbox one x should be able to BOTH handle 1440p, if not a solid 4K here, surely? So so lazy imo
Coral Koswara Also the Frame rate on the switch was lazyness
It is excusable since it was ported, but the framerate still disappoints me. Either way, I won't let 30fps ruin my game experience.
Coral Koswara but Pro isn’t a 4K console 🤷🏿♂️
PantherCrane but it can do 1440p thou
keep_it_one_hun 1 the pro is a 4K console, just not as capable. It can hit 4K, even if it dynamically scales. The switch also can do more than what is shown here, 720p 60fps is fine, 30fls is just bad...
And also the Xbox one x should be easily able to do 4K for this, and fair enough it’s only a port but they should at least spend a little time optimising
So it begins the X vs Pro console wars.
sickamore007 And with the X winning every comparison for the next 3-4 years.
supersonics5000 it's like you forgot already about titanfall 2
sickamore007 it began with GT sport VS Forza 7.... thus far the Pro is winning.
QuietSpaceGaming is not optimized already... titanfall 2=6k on "x" mid detail... they have to put 4k high detail...
sickamore007
theres no war between X and Pro the X has already won 👍
GT Sport has issues that i would expect from 1997
Most games on Pro run between 1080p and 1440p
Other than a resolution boost Pro gets nothing more
These cancerous console fanboy comments were a HUGE MISTAKE.
UCanBeMyBigBoss yoooooo take this W my friend
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
You feel it too, don't you?
These cancerous console fanboys, cancerous nvidia and amd fanboys and intel and amd fanboys in the comments are a HUGE MISTAKE... there i fixed it for you.
If you are a pc gamer then why a metal gear solid logo most games are ps exclusive or Nintendo exclusive only tpp is on pc
Just here to see how many people will blame the console instead of the developer.
Seriously, this game could have easily run at 1080p 60 fps on ALL consoles if they cared more. >:/
@@misomie No lmao
@@maugod6972 You’re not the one with 9 likes lmao
When Super Mario Odyssey looks better and runs at a higher framerate and resolution...
And has a bigger scope as a game. This looks like bad optimization in every console version of the game.
SaucyDancer
Can't wait for the shit show on PC.
english please.
Lol Mario looks like shit 💩
19HajimeSaitou91 triggered?
Mistake is a mistake.
InvisibleMan95 XD
PS4 is mistake need to be cancel right now
Ivan Vargas hey! For your information Xbox One X today was sold out in Japan....al 15 of them. So not such a failure duh.
Lmao
JP World eh hem you mean 19
This comment section lmao
It's every comment section for this channel
Crabmann
It's the best thing on RUclips
Shame you can't filter the comment section so you have to be over 18 to comment, might reduce the fan boy comments.
A majority of the fanboy comments are from folks 18 and over though.
Corn Pop autism has no age limit
you would think someone over 18 would be able to afford both consoles and not have to argue about it.
I’d like a +35.
That wouldn't stop most people from posting fan boy comments. Some people aren't mature, no matter what age imo.
Damn that song is pretty hype.
My sides
what is the song name
thanks dude your the best
Unstoppable SuperSam love you
「Act Ecchi Ni-San」
I know right I felt the same way reminds me of the song from the 1st level of Sonic Adventures 2
Would be nice if they rereleased a 60fps version of Sonic Colors, a better game then this one anyways.
let´s agree to disagree
@@senorpato3587 we get it you like bad games
@@ooferssixtynine4232 We get it opinions don't exist
OH BOY I HAVE GOOD NEWS
You won’t believe what’s coming!!
Not even one of these consoles have Blast processing, this game will play like crap!
They all do have "blast processing" (DMA), it's pretty common these days :D :P Even nintendo machines have it... (but since N hw is crap as usual it can't really help...)
@@nattila7713 Bruh u didnt get the joke cause u work for nintendo. Smh tourist.
This video proves that developers are the ones that are really in charge of how a game runs and optimized for consoles
Life was a mistake
You know, I got it on Switch and I've enjoyed it quite a bit. I don't feel it's as inspired as Generations, but either way the mechanics feel great and the game is still very fun to play.
Yeah, i got it on ps4 and its a pretty fun game
Same I had fun with it on switch the graphics are a little bit better on tv though
It’s a crap game
@@jollamalol
@@jollamaYou mean "ok"?
Mistakes was a mistake
arfhanisbest
Your English has a mistake
Mistakes were made.
there was an mistake in his mistake
I never seen a difference from 60fps drop to 59fps some people make very big deal out of that, but I never notice.
No one notices without the software that digital foundry has. They act like its the end of the world. So done with these typical idiots you find on every digital foundry video
Joel Boafo agree
It's because it's impossible for the human eye to distinguish but welcome to the internet where people somehow manage to gain superhuman abilities everyday
@@iDJ11They still around heh.
X VS pro mistake comments come out in attempt to defend their purchases 😧. I think I am going to take a break from the comment section until people grow up.
InfinityDOK I believe you will be waiting till end of time then my friend. Lol!
Aboriginal TruthTeller Tell that to the 30 year old men and woman that are fanboys that act like 12 year olds.
And people said that this would be better than Odyssey....
LUL
Hentai Boy lol Sonic has never been better than a main Mario game since the last 15 years. Sega has lost a lot of good game designers due to their financial voes.
Hentai Boy It is. I returned odyssey the day I bought it.
TheOneWhoPlays
Cool. Not sure if we should care though.
TheOneWhoPlays good for you...99% of others who Mario didn't
Sonic the hedgehog 1,2 and 3 was better than Mario. At the present no
Really enjoying the Xbox, Playstation and Nintendo focused content, DF. Keep it up.
The real pizza boy is this a meme?
I'm waiting for salt focused content.
No?
Jonathan B He is copying that comment from a Prince Dizzy on RUclips and then spams that same comment in every DF video. He loves Prince Dizzy.
The real pizza boy Nice profile pic
So they basically lie on the box when it says PS4 Pro enhanced. Is that even legal?
gerty tk no sony lies
Indeed. That bullshit has to stop! And actually, Sony should start to mandate the proper PS4 Pro support at this point. Devs clearly don't care.
Yup it is legal, if it is using the full PS4 pro hardware.
MadFinnTech it still wouldn’t make any difference against the X1X 🤷🏿♂️
Sony have been given a free pass ever since their Class Action suit over lying about game resolution was thrown out.
Avoiding Nintendo Switch version? No. I prefer On the Go.
He did say it was good for what it is. A portable 3d sonic game, which is why i'll buy the switch version at some point. Have skyrim and doom to get first.
Yeah. Me too.
I’m also getting the switch version when i can afford it. I don’t have enough time to play at home, so the Switch is my baby:) (also own a ps4 and xbox one, but i still want the switch version)
*oN ThE gO*
That Switch version looks gross.
Sonic Sega Dreamcast and GameCube are my childhood games.
Funny. Switch’s version is by far The Best selling version. I guess people doesn’t avoied after all hahaha
NintendoBoy the Switch portability does a huge advantage over the other versions.
I played this game for the first time on switch and I played it through , I didn’t having any bad experiences
@@PopPunkNerd yeah but 60fps is definitely a great improvement
Looking at the comments section...was a mistake.
killie lad they care about FPS on a damn sonic game
I’m disappointed in the Switch version because I can tell it could of been better but since it’s a solid 30fps and it’s portable I’ll be fine. It is technically a portable HD system.
I hate people using the "oh it's portable so it's acceptable" excuse. If Mario Odyssey ran at 60fps I don't see why this doesn't.
I'm disappointed in the pro version why put pro enhanced on your box when it isn't taking advantage of the horse power I'm getting this for my xbox one x when it goes on sale
Nick Figures Mario Odyssey graphics wise is weak and inferior the real lighting and superior effects plus anti-alliasing, Mario Oddysey graphics look like Shit compared to SONIC forces, plus Mario Odyssey has no anti-aliasing... that's why Odyssey runs at 60fps and not SONIC forces.
TC Crowder enjoy your tearing
TC Crowder because the PS4 Pro isn’t much of an upgrade to begin with. Since it came out It’s barely made any enhancements to games except for the first party ones like TLOU or Uncharted.
Really loving the GameCube focused content, keep up the good work DF
Hey john, loved to see your own personal opinion on the game at the end, I hope you include that in later videos as well. It was refreshing after just the tech stuff.
popa chopa X1X 🦂🦂🦂🦂🦂🦂
The fluidity of Sonic's foot movement is mesmerizing.
I want a new sonic adventure. Open world sonic for the dreamcast was awesome.
Scorpio: 4K/60fps
Switch: 720p/30fps
Sonic Team, come on. I expected the Switch to *_AT LEAST_* support 720p/60fps for this game. There's really no excuse for this.
Can't believe I bought a Pro for this game.
You have my condolences.
Michael White I'm sorry for your loss
lmao what were you thinking?
can't believe you bought a console for a sonic game
Tom Moons people did in 1992
This looks about as beautiful as Mario Sunshine. I'm starting to suspect everything Linneman has said ;)
"Avoid the Nintendo Switch version of the game."
**Nonchalantly ignores that the Switch version of Sonic Forces is the only portable/handheld version of the game**
I think everybody needs to consider that frame-rates and graphics aren't the only things making a console favorable now. Not only does personal preference exist, I honestly can't stand using an Xbox controller because of the mixed up letters and it feels a bit stiff in my hands, but other strengths like the Switch's portability and stuff built into the console very much do exist.
Switch version runs fine, but it definitely looks noticeably worse. I haven't been this disappointed since Dragon Quest Heroes, which FOR SURE should've ran at 720p/60fps on Switch, but that one is more forgivable since it released on the launch of the Switch.
It's a Sonic game, though. Visual details like that don't matter when you're moving. They all look the same as soon as Sonic gets that boost going.
I hope the Switch gets a 720p/60fps patch for Docked Mode.
CrazyE Most people don't care about playing games on the go, especially adults. We would rather have better graphics and frame rates
Yeah, right. Tell that to most people I know who own a Switch...
*+Dislexic Potato* I'd rather have better frame rate period. For a Sonic game, why do graphics matter when you're moving so fast to begin with?
Digital Foundry, sneaking in some game reviews? Uncommon
So many insecure fanboys in the comment section.
I'm trying so hard not to laugh at imo
But XBOX is still better!
Never gonna give you up,
Never gonna let you down,
Never gonna run around, and desert you!
*GET RICKROLLED*
this is exactly the reason why Microsoft need to make more new exclusives. Of course some 3rd party devs will do their best to use the extra power of the X like Monolith and Crystal Dynamics, but internal devs like 343, Turn 10, Rare, and The Coalition are the ultimate source for games with highest graphical fidelity and performance for the X. This beastly console deserve a spectacle like PS4 Pro's The Last of Us Part II, Uncharted IV, God of War, Detroit: Become Human, Shadow of Colossus, and Horizon: Zero Dawn.
anyway, always happy to hear John's voice in DF video.
i would really like to see an in-depht look at the hedgehog engines and how do they work and what can they support, as there isnt a lot of info about the changes HE2 did to the base hedgehog engine
*depth
Who would have thought?
Old console wars, Nintendo v Sega - Now we get Sonic on the Switch.
New console wars, XBoxOne v PlayStation - Now Phil Spencer wants XBoxOne exclusives on PlayStation.
We live in strange times!
I prefer to play this on the go
Shirokuro Max at 720p30fps with PS1 Visuals.
Ioannis Stf well, not really PS1 visuals
Ioannis Stf didn’t know Ps1 could output 720p and a locked 30fps
same, love my switch
I prefer to play good games.
Thank's Phil! I cant wait to play Halo and Gears of War on the PS4 Pro...
RIP XB1 X 😂
Time to drop $500 to play this masterpiece at 1080p!
Got the Switch version and heard mixed reviews of the game so far. Looking forward to trying it out. Love that Sonic is going back to the overly edgy cheesy rock song style of the Adventure Games.
A Channel About Video Games I gave you a like just for the cool hat man.
UPDATE: finished the first boss, got all the red rings and s ranks on the way and I'm LOVING it! Especially the music!
A Channel About Video Games good for you so am i
The Switch version could of easily been 60fps especially when docked and the Xbox One version could of easily been 1080p the PS4 Pro should of been a solid 1440p and the One X should of easilt hit a stable 4k this is just bad optimizing all out except for the standard PS4
I can understand downgrades on Switch, but this seems like Sega did not put effort into this.
Actually I can use a gpd win 3 to play sonic forces in 4K everywhere
I remember playing the demo in handheld mode(havent played it in docked mode yet) and thought wowww this looks really fucking good and yes I already knew that it was 30fps instead of 60fps. Anyways my point is that if I didnt see this comparison I wouldnt have known it looked like this compared to the others. Game still looks great imo just wish it was 60fps, but if the xboxone is already at 720p/60 then I understand why its only 30. Great video as always Digital foundry.
Way to admit you never played Unleashed or Generations
Sega was lazy to optimize the Switch version.
I love sonic but it would be nice to add a storyline along with the arcade style play. I want to walk around the game and interact with the background more.
Than Sonic Frontiers is the right game for you!
This game was heavily designed for the major Sonic fans, and nothing more. The series, as a whole, is like that one-legged former jock that works in a cubicle and reminiscing about his former glory and attempting to relive his glory times.
No matter how many consoles Nintendo manufactures, how many Xbox one X X X X X Microsoft manufactures, how many multi billion dollar pc video cards are released, ps4 will always remain the best gaming machine coupled with great budget ever atleast for this generation! Agree ps4 owners??!!!
Wow! Sega ultimately fucked up. I can't believe what a shitty job they did porting this game. All 3 platforms are horrendous.
Seems like a really sloppy visual production across the board.
Greg Brooks
Why?
Ike Okereke because the X1X should be Native 4k and the Pro should be Native 1440p!
Ike Okereke Did you not watch? Inconsistent frame rate, reduced motion blur effect, inconsistent resolution even on xboxX. No PS4 Pro upgrades.
Keyboard G nerd complaints
" Ike Okereke because the X1X should be Native 4k and the Pro should be Native 1440p! "
How do you know they "should be"? I would think the Pro could hit at least one notch higher resolution, since base PS4 is stable at 1080p, but "meh" (if it hasn't been patched, which wouldn't surprise me). I would expect X to be able to hit 4k, at least not without cutting the frame rate in half or something. I but it could render the Switch's quality settings at 4k though.
Fun fact about the Switch version: development wasn't able too begin until the release of the console because of how Nintendo was with development kits. They were very selective and didn't give out dev kits too everyone and a 720p 30fps build was all they were able too get going before release. I'm sure it could have run at 720p 60fps like in Sonic Lost world given that ran at 60fps on Wii U.
Simply put, rushed port.
What about SCU though?
They've had plenty of time and devkits, yet it will run at 30 fps!?
@@marmilaied5218 might be a case of how detailed the new visuals are. I'm not a developer 100% but that's probably it's own thing.
So they just turned on the PC Settings to low as the Switch Port?
Kinda dissapointing since Im sure the game could ran at least at 900p 30fps or 720p 60fps 🙈
Xbox One version is 720p 60 on a 4 years old console at the time.
Switch is considerably weaker than Xbox One, so 720p 30 with reduced graphics actually makes sense, the port is good.
It holds it's target framerate well.
Expecting more from a Switch version is just wishful thinking.
@@ThibautMahringer The game isnt really graphically demanding tho, if Odyssey was able to hit 900p 60fps, pretty sure Forces could hit 720p 60fps with more time
Although I own a PS4 and a high end PC, I bought the switch version for it's portability. I don't mind taking a slight hit in visuals so I can play console caliber games on the go. Really looking forward to see how Doom and Wolfenstein turn out.
Bad move
You do an outstanding job to compare all these releases of the game from a very detailed technical standpoint.
It's no simple game review but those few lines you lost about Forces compared to its 3D predecessors most likely sums it up anyway.
Too bad, I was still somewhat excited, especially since Mania Sonic ends up in Forces and I want to know what happens to him over there,
Thumbs up for that video anyways.
SONIC > MARIO
If you look at pixels (PS4) has 300,000 dead pixels compared to the Nintendo Switch which only has (175,000) dead pixels. Also the Nintendo Switch version has the background objects perfectly in place so there are no glitches and frame rate drop. On the (PS4) version you can fall off the map forcing you to restart
Hooray, I've got the best console to not play this game on!
I like how you immediately start talking about Sonic Mania instead of Forces
My existence was a mistake
Grobzoula oh come on man.
Grobzoula don't say that bruh
I’m here for you.
John's back from vacay.
You haven't lived unless you played sonic on Sega genesis
vengeance Guess I am dead then
Vaibhav Shah lol come on man never picked up a Sega genesis controller bro
vengeance lol dude I grew up in India in the 90s where consoles were an exotic imported item. I've played most of my games on the PC. Would've loved to play it on the original genesis but it's too late unfortunately.
Vaibhav Shah lol oooooo gotcha
oof honey your right
So since the PS4Pro, and now especially since the release of the XboxOneX, I am really starting to notice how games are just on average, not optimised very well. Give devs any amount of hardware, and there will still be un-optimized games. I think this is now putting a good pressure on devs to start stepping it up a notch - Hopefully.
Well after 5 years what are thoughts now?
I think I'll get the switch version. I really like the fact that I can take it anywhere I go.
Bad move
RUclips comments sections were a mistake.
Sorry. Couldn't help it.
"Good soundtrack."
Sonic Generations ran at 30fps on my Xbox 360 (iirc) and I had no problem with that. I'm sure I'll have no issues with the frame rate on Switch, not to mention the bonus of having a portable version of the game makes it more than worth it!
Comments below: X, Pro were a mistake.
Man, this is a Sonic Rushed game. The main versions is the PS4. The other are ports.
Actually, It's been in development for 4 years.
But that just makes it seem worse.
they developed it first for the PC lol
Yep. This game should just be known as "Sonic Rushed".
2.5 years on the engine .25 on design 1.25 on making the game
It would’ve been a nice touch for the PC version to have the Switch visuals as a low end mode.
When the original PS4 is better to play than the PS4 pro, you did a huge mistake
also congrats to Xbox X
It's not the Pro's fault, it's because the game isn't properly optimized for it. Of course Xbox X is going to be better than the Pro in terms of power, it simply has better hardware.
Wonder if it's a problem due to the dual gpu solution in the pro. Many games don't like the use of dual gpu's still.
aRANDOMqUICKIE what???? 😭😂😂😭😂😂
Ps4 pro uses two ps4 gpu's and since they are AMD graphics processors it essentially is running in crossfire. In theory it sounds great but devs have to code for it and most of the time they either don't or screw it up and you end up with worse performance than just having one gpu.
Raf the Gamer when Titanfall 2 runs more consistently and better on the Pro than the X damn you have to feel salty in that $525.00 Xbox purchase cause you know you wasted all that money for nothing 😂 😝 🤣
Why do people act like 30 FPS is literally the worst thing in the entire world.
Oh these comment sections are going to be a bit poisonous for a while. Ask yourselves- Without these fine professional gentlemen telling you the statistics, would you really notice? I mean, honestly?
FatalshockGS no one would are you enjoying the X?
Exactly. I feel like we're comparing what we know from numbers, rather than what we can actually see. At what point am I going to have the game magnified by 300%? lol. I've only just finished setting it up. Can't wait to finally get stuck in.
FatalshockGS I hope you enjoy it and I hope Microsoft first party Devs take full advantage of the one x power over time.
For me I have just started playing horizon zero dawn the frozen wilds which is amazing so far.
People should just have fun gaming there are so many games to enjoy do people really need to act like kids in a playground over there consoles.
I do think that looks good. I've a long way to go with the base game yet, though. At the end of the day, when you are sat in your room gaming... who are you impressing apart from yourself?
FatalshockGS no one but people seem to need to validate there purchase to everyone no idea why.
Every generation I buy both consoles and I have fun I also have the switch so I am spoilt for choice
The switch looks just like the ps3 version of sonic generations, pretty good .
Wait...having no motion blur is a bad thing?
Motion blur looks good and is realistic when you can predict the focal point like most racing games or on rails like this game.
It's the first thing that gets turned off when I have the option.
"Avoiding the Nintendo Switch of the game"? I dont remember you guys saying that from another PORTABLE version of a multiplatform game. Then what? We have to avoid LA Noire, Doom and all multiplatforms games on Switch because they dont run like PS4 and One on this PORTABLE console?
Sonic forces is good but there are something’s I was disappointed about the game was nice
Good to have you back john
Im absolutely LOVING the game, its so fun when you try to beat your best time!
Crap game
@@jollamalol ikr? I was disappointed back then for the first time in Sonic
1800p is a huge difference over 1080p! It’s was noticed right away!
Best Version
#1 PC
#2 X1X
#3 PRO
#4 PS4
#5 X1S
#6 Switch
Azza Prime Preach.
TheOneWhoPlays X1S? Really? It doesn't have any improve besides 4k blu-ray movies. If that's your opinion, then where's the Ps4 slim version? Lol.
Apparently the PC version is a mess.
Amidst the Xbox/PS4 comment wars, surprisingly, I’ve seen barely any comments about the switch here
How many "Vs" do we have here?? xDD oh btw.. Sega Saturn WAS a mistake!!
nastybeard Guardian Heroes, NiGHTS, all the Capcom/SNK fighters, the amazing 2D shooters, the superb RPGs, Dragon Force, the Panzer Dragoons, so on and so forth. Sega Saturn is still one of the most awesome retro collections to have; not to mention the best controller for 2D gameplay ever created.
damn you are right xD
PS4 is a mistake. Sega Saturn is an awesome console and still has much enjoyable games than many released today imo.
I have a PS4, a gaming laptop and a Switch. I got this game for Switch, knowing that the resolution and framerates are cut in half, and I'm still happy with my decision. Forces on public transit and on my lunch break? Freaking amazing. I'd take a portable version of a game any day.
Sonic Forces: Xbox One X vs Xbox One/ PS4/ Pro + Switch you left out PC version
I could seriously care less about the graphical and frame rate downgrades. In fact, I don’t give a dang about that at all! The fact that I could be able to play an full 3D console Sonic game on the go is enough to warrant a purchase of the Switch version!
Sonic Forces is a very good game. Definitely buying it for the Xbox One X.
Very bad game.
Damn! At least let the Switch run on 720p 60FPS or 1080p 30FPS
I love the switch version.......so i (personally) recommend this version if u dont own a ps4 or xbox
Honestly I would still play the switch version. Unless I'm playing any type of shooter or fighting game, I do not care about the graphics or frames. If you have a switch and (for some reason) really want to play Sonic Forces, just wait for a price drop then buy it.
When you're telling people to avoid the Switch version in favour of PS4 or XB1 I think you should add the caveat "unless you want to play on the go". Not that I'm getting this game but there are certain games I just wouldn't play on my PS4 Pro but would play on the go on Switch (FIFA for instance) so it's definitely a viable option for some games. Also it's a bit harsh going back and forth between the Switch and PS4 Pro version of the game when comparing the visuals considering that PS4 Pro has a GPU 10x the Power of the Switch GPU and the size difference so I think comparing the Switch visuals with base XB1 is the fairer thing to do.
Chris these videos aren’t about your ego; they’re about informing people who pay attention to resolution, detail, and performance. That’s is all these videos account for. You can decide for yourself if you want to play whatever on the go. They will advise people avoid a version if it is objectively worse - given their perspective.
I bought it on Switch and played through the whole game before watching this video or looking at any version comparisons, and while it was obvious that it was only 30fps I still had a great time playing the game and I thought that it still looked really nice. After seeing this it's obvious the other versions look better, but I think Sonic Team still did a great job working with what they had.
Way to admit you never played Lost World
Is seriously nobody gonna point out the quality of the cutscenes?, because i'm surprised in every video review of Sonic Forces nobody talks about of that subject like honestly i feel like i'm the only one who noticed that the cutscenes look like compressed mp4 files what i mean is that there's noticeable fuzziness, they don't look crisp clean 1080p compared to the cutscenes of Sonic Unleashed.
Looks like a rush job for a release before Christmas.
Mistakes...mistakes everywhere
Kalev Lemus toy story reference?
Lion The mood I did that unintentionally lol, I was making a joke in reference to the vast number of comments saying that the competition in respect to their console was and is a “mistake”.
Graphically it looks lovely, the bright colours and style look great. But saying that, how good does Lost World still look on Wii U, underrated game that.
The game looks bland
@@jollamaheh
pro was a mistake and i will say this shit in every video until the next gen
And I'll report you every time.
good and i will report you too for not minding your own business
Why? If you don't like it fine, just stop acting like an annoying fanboy. You're not impressing anyone, you're not adding to the conversation, you're not being constructive. You're just being a fanboy, grow up.
The true hero of our generation..
you obviously didn't use to read the comments at the lunch of ps4/XO
I actually have the Switch version, and it runs fantastically. Plus, the darker visuals look a hell of a lot more appealing.
30fps in a sonic game is nowhere near "fantastic"..
Gosh such harsh words for a handheld console. I'm sorry but I don't agree. The game isn't great that IS for sure, but the Switch version is a lock 30 (with proper framepacing). Since WHEN a lock 30 IS bad? The graphics are close enough to the source material. And when you put in perspective the differences in power between all the machines, it makes sense to have those differences. I still don't get why you guys talk like the Switch has the same power as the other console, while the other consoles have to be plug to work. It really annoys me. Your tech analysis should always be fair to the hardware compared, yet here you crushed the switch and spent less than a minute talking about the differences. Not to mention you used the Switch demo for the comparison. I mean it's not likely but maybe the final game looks better you know? I don't know. I don't understand what you get from saying "run from the Switch version you fool" (not an actual quote, but more like how it felt :-p)
just because it's a stable 30fps, a bit uglier and 720p on a handheld slash underpowered console. Just a thought though.
Oh and doing the graphic comparison ONLY between the Switch and the pro
instead of the Xbox One version which is the closest version to the Switch ... Come on John!
How WRONG is that?
They're just pointing out the differences between versions, for the viewers' benefit. Obviously, the Switch version has no competition if you want a handheld rendition of Forces. But if you're a console gamer looking for the best experience, it makes sense to learn about the differences and see what you're getting.
Also, the graphics and performance in this game just barely match Sonic Generations (if even that), which ran on 2005 hardware. Even the Switch should be able to do better. 60fps doesn't seem that unreasonable.
3dmarth yeah I know, but still I don't think it was phrased the right way to truly inform people. Plus if you want to inform the people you don't stop at what makes the Switch version a lesser version, maybe you explain the handheld experience on a technical level, or you go in depth on the tech used in the game and how it translate on every console. Things that they actually used to do a lot in past, but this technical aspect and engine description is limited to a bare bone now.
Neocaron The whole point of these videos is to explain the resolution, detail, and performance differences between versions. If someone was looking for the best version from this perspective, they have an answer. They’re not going to argue if it’s cool in handheld mode. They handle resolution, detail, and performance. If Sonic Forces for Switch is crushed by the other versions, they are going to explain in what ways.
Matthew Gonzales i get what you're saying but I don't agree. I would not expect my 1050 to give me the same performance or graphics features as my 1080. But instead I would like to know if I get the performance expected by my card (weirdly enough they do that for the graphic cards btw so it makes sense). That's what they should do!!! Plus come on doing the graphic comparison between the Switch and the pro instead of the Xbox One version which is the closest version ... How WRONG is that?
Neocaron, you mentioned that you'd "like to know if [you] get the performance expected by [your] card"
They touched on that by comparing to past games such as Sonic Lost World, which looked sharp and ran at 60fps on Wii U- clearly, Forces is not delivering the performance expected for this hardware.
I can understand if you'd like to see a little more of an in-depth look at the technology (and who knows, maybe they'll cover that later), but this video doesn't have any glaring omissions, at least in my opinion.
I'm sure over time SEGA might fix both issues on either console versions. If they can that is.