Our 1956 Standard 8 saloon - HOPEFULLY just needs minor re-commissioning ..... we'll see!
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2022
- Here our '56 Standard 8 says hello. As I've mentioned before on the Old Classic Car channel, my plan is to move away from vehicles needing huge amounts of restoration work, and have fewer projects overall. While finding barn finds is great fun, there's no getting away from the amount of time it takes to get them running and usable, so now I'd prefer to only take on things that need minor restoration, gentle re-commissioning, that kind of thing, although sticking to this noble intention can be a challenge when looking around online. Hopefully this Standard 8 will fit the bill.
I've had small Standards before so they're not completely unknown to me, and the engine (albeit slightly enlarged) was also used in the Triumph Spitfire that I first pieced back together in the late 1980s. This Standard 8 has been out of use for a few years I think, but does run, and with the Prefect gone there was space and sufficient £ available for it (one out, one in etc etc). Inevitably there'll be work to do, which is fine, but hopefully nothing major. Here I talk about why this example appealed to me, its good points and its bad points, but with any car like this there are bound to be unpleasant surprises as time rolls forward.
My youthful assistant has been making noises about small Standards and similarly-sized classic British cars for a while too which influenced this choice, plus it may be something that dad (now Morris Minor-less) or even Mrs OCC (who ran an Austin A30 as her daily drive many years ago) could take along to shows, we'll see. On the subject of A30s and A35s, I talk a little about why, overall, I prefer Standard 8s and 10s to their BMC rivals of the 1950s.
Anyway, thanks for watching, more vids along shortly. Likes, subs & comments welcomed as always please.
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What a top purchase. The paint work looks quite good, glad she is running on the 4 pots. Cannot wait to see the driving videos of it.
Thanks, it's a 10ft-er but perfectly good for pottering around in, Pebble Beach won't be calling me any time soon though :)
She's a gorgeous little thing!, good luck with her! Best wishes, Gérard.
Thanks!
I`ve always been an Austin fan and never really thought about these until I saw this video, given me an interest.
First (I Think). What a nice little car. Going to be interesting to see how this develops.
Lovely cars and reliable only ones I remember is my brother had a 8 in black don't remember much as I was young and not into cars then and a few years later my dad had a vanguard think it was a 1956 or 58 grey and cream that was nice I'm sure you Will soon get her in shape and just enjoy using her they are much better when run regularly
My father was the Solex agent for the north-west of England in the 1950s and 60s. He was employed by Marsh and Jeffery's garage on Whitworth Street, but only worked on carburettors. . He would have been very familiar with the carburettor on your Standard. As a child I can remember playing boxes and boxes of carb parts.
hello i had an eight we went on our honeymoon in it to brixham in 1967 i miscalculated the distance and got there at 11pm so had to sleep in a layby oh what fun when your young cheers from tony and jane elson ps i slid the seats out and turned them round great except for the horn button
I had a standard 10 1958 as my first classic in 2002 great little car loads of fun!
'Clutch on the gear lever', How...why...I love it, I really want to see that. I also remember the small standard 4 had a small boot accessed from the rear seats. Love these little beauts and this standard 8 here rocks.
I broke the hinges of mine so i bolted a big door hinge on the boot and i painted it silver
Another blast from the past. I do remember seeing these little cars in New Zealand - ages ago - but haven't seen one for years now. They do look quite attractive with a two-tone paint job, with the crease along the side of the car being the dividing line.
what a little cutie and so easy to work on
Thanks, yes sharing many oily bits with early Heralds certainly helps
I love these little cars for their simplicity and reliability .
Love the little car. Much rarer than a Morris Minor. Will look forward to seeing you bringing her up to ‘Standard’. 😄
That would almost be a Triumph eh? Cheers
@@nigelparker5886 This should be relatively easy project all being well. Not a project for a Vanguard. 🤔
Peter Riggall I hear your RENOWNed for your wit!
@@nigelparker5886 we could ‘Herald’ in a new trend.
Hello OCC peeps. My best beloved and l have recently subscribed to your brilliant channel. Thanks for sharing your trips to shows and such. We're living vicariously through your experiences! Reminiscing on the cars we owned in the past. Great times. We're from Weaverham, Cheshire but now living in Nova Scotia, Canada. Those 30 years just flew by. Thanks again. Your show is the best. Greetings and keep safe.
Hi, wow thanks for your kind words, coincidentally we used to live next door to Weaverham, in Sandiway. I assume you've seen the vid about the old-car garage in Northwich? ruclips.net/video/53sVFTyjIhA/видео.html
Excellent find and the recommissioning coming together really well. Sump takes lots of oil. Harley made a great job of the paintwork. I remember in the late 70s / early 80s, a neighbour had a dark beige little Standard, from your excellent information, presumably a 8. It was his pride and joy, garaged, and only used at weekends and in the dry. My Gran used to say, how ridiculous having a car and hardly using it ! I only remember it after he passed away, his widow gave it to a friend, It had a lot of chrome, lamps / mirrors etc. And was mint. It looked vintage even then, and only 20 odd years old.
A delightful little car affording reliable and economical daily transport. My uncle owned one in which I had a number of memorable rides sixty years ago.registration number pup 129.
I noticed the inlet & outlet manifolds are sort of mingled together on the same side.
That made me think of the problems we had starting our Wolseley 1500 after refuelling when it was still hot,
back in the days when we drove it up to Darwin from Melbourne.
It was probably a similar setup where the gas fumes just evaporated before they reached the cylinders
That's a great looking little car, I love it.
I'm embarking on restoring my standard8...and reverting to your videos - very informative thank you!
Would love to pick your brain on EVERYTHING!!
Ha I'm no expert. Good luck with yr rebuild
I have always liked the shape of Standard 10s and 8s. The styling is so simple and really well proportioned. A great little car with many good features like the telescopic dampers. 😊
my dad had a sedan and a wagon both were great little cars i have all ways kept my eyes open to find one but not many made it state side. yours is a wonderful find🙃
Interesting little car, don't believe they were ever exported to South Africa although I have seen a few at shows. Having had an OHV engine since the early 50's shows how far behind Ford was in using a sidevalve in their competitor up to 1959. Looking forward to many more stories about this car. Thanks for the video.
People have mentioned Mustie 1 but there is also This Week With Cars for classic British cars
in America particularly Midgets and all types of Minis. A really excellent channel.
There are some great channels out there, I could spend all day on YT if I'm not careful!
Great little car which looks much better after a polish.The new bolt and the small improvements make a difference and the wing mirrors look excellent. I really like the Standard 10 Companion.
Thanks FLF, it'll never win any shows but hopefully it'll prove fun to use for local hops
They were good cars. Excellent brakes and surprisingly good handling. My reg was UWE xxx. I replaced the engine with an 1147 from a Herald and also fitted a diff with taller gearing. I unfortunately had no choice about parting with it (mid 80s), but I wish I still had it for a daily driver.
Sounds like some useful upgrades you had
I know a bit about this cars History, i owned it twice, or rather owned it and rescued it, i drove it from Birmingham to Bognor Regis. So glad to know its still going
I'd be interested to know more of its background if you have any details. By all means email me via the main Old Classic Car site if it's easier? Do you have any photos of it? thanks1
Love the car. I am a big fan of the Standard 8 and 10. My first car was a Standard 10 with Standrive. Look forward to following the work you are going to do.
I learned to drive in a Standard 8 in 1960. Passed first time in December 1960 in a snow storm.
Thanks for the heart.
After my comment I went and found my original provisional licence.
That's a lovely wee motor pal!
Congratulations 👍😁✌🏼
Happy days!
Thanks yes it has some potential definitely
I used to own a 1958 Standard Super 10. For some strange reason I sold it! I have always regretted doing that, only wish so much I had it now. So easy to work on, reliable, fun to drive etc. Not really the sort of car that is "high performance", but it was a handsome little car and quite advanced for it year. My father has a Standard Atlas Van (very, very slow) and a Standard 14 (I think). Love the old Standards.
Wow always fancied having an Atlas van, although yes I've read that with the 948cc engine the early ones were painfully slow (not that speed interests me much!)
Thanks I've just joined the forum . Thanks for your advice . I'll get there . The cars solid virtually no corrosion. Loads of history still has its first registration document from 1957 .👍
Excellent I'll look out for your email
hi there.great video, i remember these cars in 1967, my friends mum had one in Devon.would reconmend attention to the air cleaner. a dip in to the paraffin then oil the mesh, good luck.
I think that is a great car for Harley to work on, as you say probably better than a side valve for him. He has done well on the paint work, you might get it better with a mop but as a start it looks good. The word you were looking for on the seats is piping not beading. I am not being picky but I am a former upholsterer. Talking of which you may be able to get that door card recovered in matching material. There is a place in the
Birmingham area that specialises in classics, don't know the name but an email to Fuzz Townsend would give you the answer if a search of the Web proves fruitless. It wouldn't cost very much either. I spotted those grommets in the wings and thought straight away wing mirrors but you beat me to it! I hope the brake shoes turn up soon and you can then go for a shake down drive although I am probably getting ahead of myself. Thanks for sharing this video Rick I hope it proves ot be a good little runner. 👍👍
Thanks Stephen, yes I'll persuade him to do some fiddling on it I'm sure. We did tappet adjustments the other evening, "rule of 9" etc etc :)
Ask your supplier for 'flushing oil' you leave it in for about 50 miles and it cleans up the internals. Get rid of any old rubber fuel pipes as E10 petrol will rot them. From a carb dealer get a £10 ish inline fuel filter- these cheap items will save so much aggro from old debris in the tank. Considering its Ford rival had vacuum wipers, side valves and a 3-speed box this deserved more sales... A very sweet-looking little car.
Potentially a really nice little car. As you say a different and maybe better alternative to an A35. It would draw interest at car show’s I think. Great videos by the way.
Thanks for watching it Mark
Lovely little car, I had one in the late 60s in light green, have fond memories of it and they drove better that the A30- A35 although not as popular. I remember it as being quite economical reliable with a light gear change.
Yes I think if it'd have been from say BMC or Ford it would be much better known now, thanks for watching
Nice car . I had one Standard Super- 10 . At present I am having Vauxhall Velox 1949 model . The first car brought in 1950 by my Dad
I had one of these in yellow for my second car in the mid 60s.
Very nice project, and good future entertainment for all of us to watch. Thanks for the video and all the details of work. Peace be unto you.
I didn’t know the Prefect had gone! I also like the Standard as a basic classic.
In the end I decided there was still plenty to do, and the result would be a car almost identical to the Anglia that I already have on the road. Great little car though
Brilliant video again! I was born in 1956, car looks in good shape though!
Thanks Peter, yes it's presentable although there are a few crusty bits that'll need attending to sometime
What a lovely car, 3 years younger than me. My father was an Austin trained mechanic so we tended to have BMC vehicles in the family, until my grandad bought a Standard Flying 12, my father absolutely hated it. 👍
6 years younger than me 🤣
Never seen a Standard vehicle I didn't like.. including the old "Gray Fergy".
Nice tidy looking car. 👍
Nice little car, great for the young person to get to grips on. All the best Bob
What a great looking little car, and Harley did a good job of polishing her too ! I must say though, I was surprised you didn't order brake pads as a matter of course, along with the cylinders - anyway, let's hope your next video will have the brakes all working well again. Thanks for the video - excellent as always. Take care.
Hi I had a Standard Pennant in blue, a very nice car.
This looks a nice little honest car. Great cars back in their day and I have never heard anything bad about them. Lovely to work on. My cousin had a green one as her first car which we used to go out in and it used to run lovely. I liked the fact that you gave a warning about the possible presence of asbestos around the brakes. It's not mentioned much these days and you never know how well cylinders and backplates have been cleaned up in the past. If the brakes linings are contaminated with brake oil then I always replace both sides. Won't be long now. 👍
Lovely little car , love to see it being given a new life, looking forward to many updates on the car.
I remember in the late sixties and all through the seventies someone in our village had a black one of these, although I can’t remember if I ever saw it being driven. I wouldn’t say they were a common car, but one would see them occasionally. I love what you are doing and resurrecting this lovely car. When I look at them now I just don’t understand why Standard made the 8 without a boot lid. So penny pinching and impractical. I don’t think a car like that would ever sell in today’s market.
I'm surprised that it was worth the effort having two totally different rear end bodywork sections to manufacture, one with no boot, the other with boot aperture and bootlid plus associated brackets, hinges, lock etc etc. I suppose the engine size difference alone wasn't enough of a differentiator between the 8 and the 10, although later in the 8s production it did gain the bootlid.
What a lovely little '8'. You've found a beauty there. I love the little Standards, they're just that little bit different. Good luck with the recommission.
Thanks Mike, it's quite tidy overall but there are a few bubble bits here and there. Shines up ok though!
Looks really tidy though. I’m forever finding bubbly bits on my Morris! Part of the joy of owning a ‘classic’ I suppose.
Lovely car always admired them, a friend had one when I was a kid, not sure of the model a bluey grey colour 4 Dr. I was fascinated by the no boot lid and the "secret" boot space. You have a fine example hopefully we'll get to go for a spin with you in it soon
After I commented on one in one of your other videos a few weeks ago, it's great to see you got one. This looks like a really solid little car. You've convinced me; I will now be looking for one myself. Whether I'll find one in Canada; well that remains to be seen!
Good luck in your search, the 10s were badged as the Triumph 10 in the USA at least which may help your hunt
What a lovely car. Same year and colour to the car I first had a drive in many years ago and would love another. Look forward to your escapades with her. Great viewing
Thanks Steve
For a car that age it looks to be in good shape.
Unlike its owner :-) thanks for watching
Nice 👍 .. I had a standard Pennant , a good car ..
'Think it's fabulous! 👍👍
Thanks Craig
Cool ..same year as my big wolseley
fantastic little car! enjoy! 😎
Thanks Doug
I had a standard 8 way back in the late 60's the 803 cc was way to slow I put a triumph hearld engine kept original gear box, what a difference made it a cracking car
Yes that conversion has crossed my mind over the years
Wow! She's looking good, especially taking her age into account. Wishing you lots of luck with her and hoping you won't uncover anything that'd be too difficult to deal with. ☺️
There's always something with these things! hopefully nothing toooo major though, thanks for watching
@@oldclassiccarUK No need for thanks, I always enjoy watching your videos ☺
That's a lovely wee thing! Not a great lot wrong with it either. Easily on the road this summer.
Shouldn't be long before the first test drive! Thanks for watching
Lovely motor, fair play to you!
Thanks James
what i can remember of mine it had a lot of grease nipples and i had to replace the clutch not easy as i remember done the job
When bleeding the front brakes, the adjusters should be let right OFF so that the pistons are
fully retracted into the cylinders. Otherwise you won't get all the air out.
This is also the case on various other old cars.
Thanks for the reminder :)
Its very tidy for the age, no rust ? incredible condition..............
There are a few bubbly bits along a couple of the doors and below the headlamps but the important bits seem sound. Thanks for watching
@@oldclassiccarUK bet there was some, love your enthusiasm Sir
Interesting to see even a 'poverty' spec. car like the Standard 8 has a 12v electrical system when a lot of American cars of the period with much bigger engines to turn over on a cold morning still had 6v systems.
"Piping "on the seats
I like the non-opening boot lid model, whilst access is less, the folding rear seats do give good load lugging ability.
I like the simpler look of the early cars, imho, removing that non-original grille will make the front end look a lot smarter and have a crisper look.
Nice car, looks like you bought well!
Thanks Gary, yes hopefully it'll all work out well with this one
Great little car, I've always been fond of the small Standards, at least as practical and slightly rarer than an A30 or Minor. The 10's had fine record in motorsport in their day. Nice to see decent, unrestored one about to ride again.
Thanks, it's far from immaculate and has had some work in the past, so will never be winning any prizes!
That looks like it will be a very good car for Harley to develop his maintenance skills. He seems to have taken a shine to it already....yes, that was awful, wasn't it...😁
As like me you put attention to detail, one thins I do with slotted screws is put the slot in a vertical position NOT horizontal, this way when water hits it, usually runs out and therefore reduces the odds of rusting.
Maybe the front right door panel suffered a rodent attack ?
You MUST replace the brake shoes anyway as one side had been contaminated with fluid.
Good point but I prefer the look of the slots when they're horizontal! decisions decisions eh!?!?!?!?!!? :-)
A great little car and quite a rarity these days. My late brother in law (Gordon Marshall) drove a Standard 8 in the 1954 Redex around Australia reliability trial. Although the roads in the Australian outback in 1954 were diabolical, he managed to make about 3/4 of the way around which is far more than he expected. He did say how cramped the cabin was on long stretches of roads when both he and his navigator were a little portl. He was icar number 1 away and a short clip can be found by entering"1954 Redex trial" on google.
Stunning car it looks amazing. If I am correct in thinking as well as the lack of an opening boot lid and the missing chrome from the front they didn't have an ignition key as such just a push start.
Hi, yes the ignition is a rotating switch and then it has a pull for the starter motor. Thanks for watching
Looks like a good & solid car, just needs you to sort the recent bodgework! Not only robust cars but also commercially successful according to Robson's excellent book on the history of the Standard motor Co.
Yes it's an interesting book that one, thanks for watching
Iy looks like you have a rather early Raleigh Dawn Tourist there against the wall. Definitely needs substantial work, but right up my street, hence my channel name.
Is help needed? I'll be right there... Greetings.
I like it. It’s a cute car. Sorry to say probably don’t have them in the US. Would make a nice car to own.
I think the Standard 10 in the UK was marketed as the Triumph 10 in the USA, so a few 10s made it over there but not sure about the 8s.
@@oldclassiccarUK thank you
I have known people fitting an external oil supply to the head because the gallery is blocked.
Looks as if joining the Standard Motor Club might be useful for some parts.👍
Yes may well happen, I was in the SMC back when I had the Standrive 10
the a30 was fwd putting the engine horizontal instead of vertical with the radiator moved by the wheel well like the 1100. makes the area seem smaller.
The A30 was rear wheel drive
At 17, I went from one of these UP to a Pennant with 7 forward gears,( overdrive on 2/3/4), it flew! Quicker than a Anglia 1200cc! I think it was the test bed for the early Triumph Herald? Cheers
I assume the o/d box was a conversion? I don't think they were ever sold new with o/d were they?
Old Classic Car Can’t say I know, only that was how I bought it second hand! May have been a test car that was sold on? Anyone out there know? Cheers
@@nigelparker5886 A firm called Laycock did a retro fit Overdrive for MGs, might have done for yours as they did other cars. That's just a suggestion.
Stephen Ricketts That’s right., you’ve jolted my memory! I think there was a label somewhere saying something like Laycock de Normanville!? I wonder?...
Stephen Ricketts Hi again, just did some research on G...and it was a gearbox fitted to the TR3 sports Car! And an option on all other Triumphs! The L de N is on Wikipedia too! Well now! Cheers
Looks a good surviver but having not having an opening bootlid would drive me round the bend!Think I would have gone for the 10 with the bigger engine too.But then again there's not a market flooded with them either.
Yeah an opening boot is a nice to have, but I don't carry much apart from tools and spare parts :)
Hi Richard, nice car. Dead spark plugs or leads or wrong order my be your problem.
Thanks for advice whats ideal compression figure ? And what gap should plugs be ? Many thanks
I think it's most important that they are all within sight of each other, but anything over 100 psi or so per cylinder would be ok on a used engine. Not sure on plug gaps, the manual will say (probably 0.015" or thereabout, more important that there is a gap and the plugs are clean). Check the points gap while you're at it.
check the oil supply to the rockers is good . a fault with these with bad oil. I had one with sliding windows.
Yes I think the top is a bit vocal even after setting the tappets
isee that there are orange indicators on the rear. My first car , an 8, had a single brake light with indicators combined with the red sidelights. ~I added orange indicators and re wired the old red indicators to the brake lights. Was this a later factory mod
I havent seen many sedan cars without an opening boot lid, are there many more? 👍
Good question ... errrrrrrr
I agree the Standard is a cracking little car and great for someone with not a lot of space and cash to own and run. Would I be right in thinking that you don't bother moting your vintage cars?
I have MOTd them on occasion, but not every year.
We had one of these in BLUE when zi was growing up. How has the restoration gone, of your uncle and aunt's AUSTIN A40, by the way?
I plan to get back onto the A40 once the Std is sorted and reliable, thanks for watching
bonnet landed on road behinde me as i was overtaking lorry lucky nobody hurt
The eight had no boot lid The ten did… on the eight you could access the boot space from behind the rear seats…
I think later 8s had the boot too, re the seats yes that's right
Just got a 57 10 mate got spark and fuel won't start . Sat 2 years any advice ? Thanks 👌
If fuel is getting to *all* the plugs, and there's a spark at *all* the plugs, then maybe the fuel has gone a bit old? Maybe the timing is a bit out. Sometimes you get a spark at the points, but it doesn't get all the way to the plugs. If there's fuel in the carb but the plugs aren't getting wet, then there may be a blocked jet in the carb - also if the compressions are low in the cylinders, the fuel/air mix won't be drawn in to the cylinders from the carb.
so triumph made the standard. is it the same engine and trans as is in the tr3 ?
Standard bought the Triumph company post-WW2, no this engine was new to the Standard 8 and 10, and went on to be used in the Herald and Spitfire after being enlarged. The TR3 engine was based on the larger 4cyl engine fitted to the Standard Vanguard, and Ferguson tractor.
does it take 10/30 motor oil ?
20/50 is better
use ep 90 oil in the trunions
I remember that being recommended for my Spitfire(s) too
Check out 'mustie1 ' on you tube re Hillman imp and Morris minor etc, very interesting channel
Thanks any way I can contact you directly 👍
It might be an idea to sign up to the OCC forum and post your problem on there, that way you get several opinions and it's easier to follow than on here:
www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/
Why not stop buying more 'projects' and get on with all the vehicles you own?
As for Missis OCC
I doubt she will ever be seen dead in an old car.
She's more than happy to go out in anything old, do you think I'd get away with having various old vehicles without her "on side"?!