AAAhhhh, gotcha! Something felt very off about my findings of him. That hand sign I've always associated with ninjas because of Ninja Gaiden and Naruto. Somehow the warrior monk aspect never came up for me, but admittedly there were SO many characters that I couldn't dedicate a ton of time to individuals. Unforunately because of the whole gag thing I did with him, there's not like 1 or 2 lines for me to cut out of the video with the RUclips editor, so I'll just pin your comment as a correction. :)
For Mitsuhide, it also makes sense for him to be the ice type trainer as that was the only type (besides dragon itself) at the time that was super effective against dragon, which was Nobonuga’s specialty
Also Mitsuhide was killed by forces under Hideyoshi's command, so the Fire type makes sense for him as well. Fun fact: In Conquest, Hideyoshi and Mitsuhide actually get some unique dialogue if they both participate in a battle on opposing sides.
"Imagine if my legacy was, I was just as a big pokemon fan" Goes on to suggest the video, " Grown Man lists the 20 Worst Designs". Your scripting and timing are fantastic, never change.
Personally I imagine that Mewtwo found himself in the world of Conquest by way of Hoopa and he decided to roll with it. That or he was made with black magic, I dunno
Yeah Mewtwo being there always bothers me. And it's on the damn start screen, so I have to be reminded of this aberration every single time. What Kenshin, is Cresselia not good enough for you? Or Latios/Latias? Or the Lake Trio? Or Mew? I get not doing Lugia though, because even if they gave Lugia a move that wasn't water type, it would still have an advantage over Shigen and Groudon by being Flying time and immune to Groudon's one move (Earth Power). But your Hoopa idea makes sense, even if it's only a retcon.
There’s some implications that the land of Ransei is stuck in a Medieval time loops. It’s ancient Japan in there but outside it’s the modern day. One character, the grass type warlord, mentions a book describing capturing Pokémon in what was basically described as pokeballs. And given the release date of this game it might be what they were going for
@@manulele24 let's see... Shadow Lugia. Primal Dialga. Ultra Necrozma. Primal Groudon / Kyogre UB!Lusamine USUM Lysandre BW/B2W2/USUM Ghetsis USUM Giovanni GSC/HGSS/USUM Red Need I go on?
I'm upset that he missed... The reason that Mitsuhide has Ice types is bc they beat Dragon and he beat Nobunaga. It's also why Hideyoshi has Infernape, bc fire beats ice, and guess who ends up uniting all of Japan?
I think there is some justification for Mitsuhide's Ice typing Ina's Empoleon; Mitsuhide: he was the one to betray Nobunaga, who's a dragon type user in this game, and what were dragon's 2 weaknesses at the time? It's a bit of a stretch sure, but it's still an explanation. Ina: Being the daughter of Tadakatsu, it would make sense if her Pokemon tied into her father's reputation for being nigh invincible, so a Pokemon who, at the time, had 11 resistances and 1 immunity would fill that role nicely
This game was my childhood! I spent hours trying to find Lilligant’s perfect link trainer (because it’s my favourite Pokémon, not because I was filling a 100% thing)
Also with Mitsuhide, his use of Ice-types means he's super effective against Nobunaga but weak to Hideyoshi, which creates a power dynamic mirroring history
Ieyasu also has Registeel in the game, though I can see how that's tricky to draw a connection to. Maybe the whole "regi" = king thing, and how Ieyasu was the overall winner of the Sengoku era in real life?
For those who haven’t even played the games, play both Nobunaga’s Ambition and the Samurai Warriors games. If you want a good starting point, then I recommend Samurai Warriors 4, though Samurai Warriors Chronicles is regarded to be the more historical spin-off franchise EDIT: also, to explain Kenshin; his armour isn’t meant to reflect his status as a ninja, but rather as a Buddhist. Specifically, in this depiction he is wearing a Sōhei, which was worn by warrior monks. In fact, many of his peers believed him to be an avatar of Bishamon, the Buddhist patron god of warriors. Also, one of the more interesting facts about Kenshin is that many people believe he was a woman, with many reasons why ranging from never marrying or having kids despite preferring to hang around women rather than men, as well as having his official cause of death being uterine cancer.
I think Mitsuhide uses ice types as they are super effective against dragons, and Oda uses dragons. He killed Oda irl so makes sense he would have a way to kill him more easily.
Kenshin uses Mewtwo because he was a strategic mastermind. So much so that he was given the name Bishamōnten, a Japanese Buddhism war deity. (This is super simplified here, just hitting the basics). Being considered a god is certainly grounds for a Legendary Pokemon, and fittingly a man who became a god is pared with a god made by man. The one man who Kenshin considered his equal, as sort of shown here was Shingen. Their rivalry was so intense, that it is said when he found out about the other's death, he committed seppuku because their fight couldn't be finished. I don't know about the truth of the story, but that's the way I like to tell it.
Mitsuhide likely has two strong ice type Pokemon because he was the one who killed Nobunaga, who is a dragon trainer. So, it would make sense that they would make Mitsuhide's type specialty super effective against Nobunaga, giving him the ice type.
It is Its basically pokemon chess Also the abilities got changed a bit to fit the game (some of them) The warlords and warriors had their own abilities too Some of which would allow you to move twice Or heal And though the pokemon had only one attack There was so much strategy involved A lot based around the stage you're one too
@@lillith7257 I wouldn’t gas it up that much, it’s my favorite pokemon spinoff so far often it seemed like the same strategies were always optimal: starting off the campaign by choosing violence. The only time you could face any problems is if you decided to grind. The most challenging campaign I ever had was my “retaliation only” run where I couldn’t attack someone who didn’t attack me first because you can’t snowball as easily.
From what I know, the male protagonist might be based off of Oichi's husband: Azai Nagamasa. Granted, that's fan speculation, but I think at one point he betrayed Nobunaga. So...lose connection possibly?
Oh, really? I just thought the protagonist character was just a stand in protagonist with no historical connection. I even made a joke comment that he forgot to include the protagonist character in the video because of it.
@@HighPriestFuneral that just made me realize that Katsuie Shibata is also missing, so for some reason both of Oichi's husbands were kept out of this game
@@camil3545 Yea, it's just weird. Other than Nagamasa and Katsuie, Sakon and Toshiie is missing too, and it's not like they're removed from the series like Musashi, Goemon, and Kojirō, where they're now just Warriors Orochi characters.
8:33 See you in a few months when Conquest is referenced in Legends Arceus' flavor text (eh it's just a hope of mine) But also Shield's Aggron Pokedex references Ieyasu. "Long ago, there was a king who wore a helmet meant to resemble the head of an Aggron. He was trying to channel the Pokémon's strength."
Some charecters are in castles that their type doesn't belong to but still fit because of their real life counterparts like Hideyoshi who, escapes to Nene's castle after you beat him.
Shady making a playthrough, Lockstin making a video about it. Conquest is getting more popular each and every day and I am living for that. This spin-off needs redemption and a sequel. Make it happen Game Freak. Give us a new gem with new pokemon. Can you imagine a bug type warlord with Golisopod? A fairy type warlord with Florges? A dark type warlord with Greninja? A mage warlord psychic type with Delphox? MAKE IT HAPPEN RIGHT NOW.
Note for Kenshin: I have no idea how you missed this by calling him a ninja, but clan Uesugi was known for their warrior monks which is what Kenshin is designed to resemble. It also is what ties on his psychic typing.
I have never clicked on a video so quickly. I've beaten the main campaign of Conquest so many times that when I saw this I immediately stopped working on what I was doing to watch this beautiful-ass video. Great Job as always Lockstin!
Was I the only one that when Legends Arceus was first announced, I thought we was finally getting a new Pokémon Conquest? 😭 Anywho thank you for the video. Very informative.
Interestingly enough, there could be an exact place in the timeline for Pokemon Conquest, possibly around the same place as Legends: Arceus. A piece of dialogue during your battle against Motonari (the Grass-type Warlord) reads: "Hey, by the way, I read that there's some faraway world where people put Pokémon into these little balls and carry them around! Pretty strange, no? Now, where did I read that...?" This would make sense, as Conquest was set around the Sengoku period (circa 1460s to 1610s). This could mean that the timeline of Hisui takes place around the same timeframe, though this theory could be debunked by further research. This is all the evidence I have though
Actually, during the first battle against Greenleaf Motonari says: "I read that there's some faraway world where people put Pokémon into these little balls and carry them around."
SO GLAD to finally get confirmation that I'm not the only one who remembers Pokémon Conquest. I was starting to worry that the best Pokémon spin-off ever made was all in my head
Kenshin was associated with Bishamonten and Sohei warriors, so that's where his design comes from and why he gets Mewtwo, who is probs the closest thing to a spiritual god of warriors Pokemon had at that point.
I sincerely hope it does get remade...perhaps with a kind of visual novel style to improve the artwork and cutscenes and maybe just make the towns more explorable.
I would love to see it but only under 2 conditions. 1. Koei is again the one to make it and 2. The pokemon company doesn't breathe down their necks to rush the game. I heard legends arceus was really good so that proves that we can still get good pokemon games but most of the modern games just have something missing. I'm not sure what it is but they don't feel right. And I'm almost certain that it is caused primarily by the dev teams getting rushed along to hit a deadline. They seem to go quantity over quality these days and i don't think they'd be able to do pokemon conquest right the way their going.
Conquest is a really cool game & concept. This could be a really great remake or do a crossover with Fire Emblem or other big Nintendo franchises like Mario & Zelda. A crossover with Fire Emblem could bring about some very "intriguing" possibilities
Originally tokyo mirage sessions(think of persona and BTS getting it on and bringing this into the world) was going to be a fire emblem and Pokémon crossover
Heck, since it was a game done alongside Koei, I feel like Pokemon Dynasty could work, as some sort of next installment to Conquest that isn't really a sequel kinda thing.
@@kiwiseatpumpkinpie1709 I thought Pokémon Conquest was originally pitched as a Pokémon/Fire Emblem crossover, and I’m pretty sure TMS was always planned to be some form of SMT/Fire Emblem combination.
@@AzureGreatheart I'm pretty sure that the FE dev team wanted to make a pitch to do a crossover between FE and pokemon to bring more attention to their franchise but someone already brought the idea to do a crossover between pokemon and nobunaga's ambition which the head honchos were already leaning towards green lighting. FE got beaten to the punch. If you want to fact check that for yourself I got my information from an hour long video on the history of the FE franchise. Pretty sure the video was made by this channel
Are you telling me none of the ninja character, or just any character, have a Staryu or Starmie 😑 A pokemon who literally is inspired by throwing stars, celestial bodies, a Japanese monster and has a cry "Hiya"...
God did I freaking love Conquest as a kid. I still replay it every few years and I ALWAYS have to look up a guide to evolving the Warlords. But still an awesome game I would love an updated version, remake, or whatever of this amazing game.
I've always found Hosokawa Gracia's life story to be very interesting. I actually live very close to her original Catholic burial site. Her husband was friends with "Justo" Takayama Ukon, who was a Christian daimyo. Ukon was eventually exiled to Manila due to his faith. He was actually made a saint just a few years ago in 2016. When Gracia received the news that Christianity had been forbidden by Hideyoshi, she decided to be baptized in secret. She was eventually killed by her retainer during Ishida's attack on Osaka Castle since she refused to commit suicide due to her faith. Her death was so unpopular that Ishida's reputation and campaign suffered and this may have had a significant part in events leading to the rise of the Tokugawa Shogunate
I really wish that Pokemon Conquest got more love and recognition. It is an amazing game, and I still hold out hope, that maybe 1 day, it will get a remake, or even a remastered version for the Switch [or whatever other console that may be in the future]
Their seem to be so many versions of how Nobunaga died, or in some cases didn't. Feels like every time i read or hear about it, it's changed again. Guess that just shows no one knows for certain what happened.
I won't lie. I was addicted to this game a few months ago, where I started from scratch, and it took me ~15 hours to complete the story mode, then I spent another 80 or so hours doing every other single side mission/post game thing [yes... EVERYTHING else], and I have nearly made a complete 100% of the game, and I don't regret it.
I actually wished they gave Yoshihiro a cat Pokemon. Yoshihiro was known for his huge love of cats and built shrines for them when he was alive that still stand and are being cared for to this day.
Not sure if you noticed this after the fact, but Mitsuhide's pokemon are possibly Lapras and Articuno for the fact they're incredibly strong ice types that would be able to fight on equal footing against Nobunaga's dragons, to reference the fact Mitsuhide was the warrior that defeated Nobunaga and lead to the whole end himself thing
Adding to Oichi, in hindsight, it's fitting that she uses a pokemon that would later on become a Fairy Type, considering her role in the game of opposing Nobunaga. *EDIT:* Also... some details you also missed. The reason why Muneshige also has an Emolga is because of his ties to Ginchiyo. Kanbei having a Lampent line is a reference to Hanbei's ties to lantern lights, iirc. Hattori Hanzo wasn't really a Ninja, more of a Samurai who took command of Ninja. The reason why Shingen has a fan is a reference to the story of him stopping Kenshin's sword with a paper fan. ....Brah, you mixed up ground-types for Rock types for Keiji's bit. Adding to why Ranmaru has a Lucario as his perfect link is because it's super-effective against Ice-types, thus making him a better retainer for Nobunaga.
That's strange considering umbreon is only obtainable by evolving eevee at 70% link (a really high level) in the dark type kingdom (should be the 11th or 10th kingdom you fight & conquer in the main story.
Fun fact~! On top of being known as Bishmonten, the god of war, Uesugi Kenshin is someone that historians are unsure of the actual gender of. Kenshin never took a wife and had free access to the women's quarters at the imperial palace. Also, despite being assassinated, Kenshin was also diagnosed with cancer which was recorded using a word that has several translations, but one of them was 'uterine cancer.' While not done here, there are some other fictional depictions that make Kenshin a woman.
I think you forgot Registeel in Ieyasu’s perfect link Pokémon. A perfect Pokémon for defense, even more so than Aggron. (Registeel is an absolute pain to unlock and find, though)
I love this! Conquest is my favorite Pokemon game, and I just started playing it again recently. It was really cool to learn all this about these characters, and it explains a lot about what happens in the game. For example, in Mitsuhide's story, he is opposing Nobunaga's army, and in Ujiyasu's story, he opposes the warring Shingen and Kenshin. However, I must point out you failed to mention that Ieyasu uses a Registeel as well as Aggron.
A couple of things to add: Types mattered to an extent in Pokemon Conquest. Mitsuhide killed Nobunaga in history, which is why he’s ice type. Hideyoshi got revenge for that killing, which is why he’s fire type. Ieyasu was known for being a very patient person, stalwart like the steel type. He also helped break Ujiyasu’s siege, so steel beats rock. Kotaro killed Hanzo, so his dark type beats ghost type. Yukimura singlehandedly slowed Ieyasu’s unification spree, so he’s fire type. There’s many more than just this too. TvTropes compiled quite a few ones, actually. Motochika in Samurai Warriors is depicted as a cool pirate of sorts, and during the late warring states period, it was the Chosokabe that used a naval fleet. That explains his water typing. Yoshimoto is a bit of a gag. In Pokemon Conquest, Forretress is the game’s joke Pokemon, and Yoshimoto as a warrior is not the best stat or ability wise. Despite his fearsome history, he’s best known for dying to young and bold Nobunaga, so popular media treat him like a joke, even though he was once feared throughout Japan. His love of kemari was actually his son’s hobby, who was the actual historical fool. Kiyomasa has a Haxorus compared to Masanori’s Krookodile and Mitsunari’s Bisharp because he was the highest ranked of the three and Haxorus is (technically) the best of the three Pokemon. Finally, in Samurai Warriors 3, when Hanbei dies, he tells Kanbei that he’ll always be a light that shines over Kanbei, and the latter has a candle Pokemon. Pretty heartwarming. A pretty good analysis all-around. I learned a few things too. Did Gracia’s family really wear all black?
I love this video so much, Pokémon Conquest is my favorite game and no one ever talks about it, it’s criminally underrepresented and deserves a sequel so much.
I actually started playing this game again about a month ago and REALLY wanted to learn about the real world equivalents to these warlords, so this video is an actual blessing
Yes we are talking about this, if Legends Arceus is canon and Conquest isn't still I am going to be pissed Edit: But it makes sense and I definitely didn't forget about Kenshin
Honestly pokemon conquest was literally one of my favorite spin off games. I loved the art style and the gameplay. I found it fun as a kid. Glad to see you cover it c:
Hideyoshi was unlike most samurai or high ranking strategist and warriors, initially a peasant, and his skill and determination were noted by Oda Nobunaga who proceeded to train and help him become the Warlord he was, and eventually even getting to be Shogun, Nobunaga may have been a crazy evil bastardad, but at least he didn't care if you were a noble or just Common folk
A fun fact, all warlords often have secondary types that they are able to Link well with, often in the 90% levels instead of their max 100% (the Mons mentioned in the videos and appear in their art and reactions). For example, Nobunaga, Oichi, and Nõ all have great sync levels with dragon types alongside their standard Electric, Normal, Ghost respectively. This was one of the ways that foreshadowed Oichi’s relation to Nobunaga for those who didn’t know Japanese history. In addition, Nobunaga also has a perfect link with Hydreigon.
I had no idea that other people liked this game considering by when I told people about it they had no clue. It’s awesome to see that it got some needed attention considering that it is one of my favourite titles
Finally a video about this game, my personal favorite spin off. Very underrated and underplayed, it’s very fresh from everything else in the game, hence the fact it’s a positioning strategy based game like Chess, Fire Emblem, or any of the past Nobunaga games. I’ll be awaiting a 3D remake of this, it’ll look very majestic and different from most games today, especially it would be under a very mainstream franchise, Pokémon. Thx for this vid :)
I really want they make the Pokémon and Fire Emblem crossover that this game originally was. FE has many characters that would pair up really well with pokémons (Sigurd with Rapidash, for example).
I once considered becoming a poketuber to make a series about personalities of each type specialists personality, like astrology. But I'm too coward for taht, so I'd like to entrust that to Lockstin if he is interested. I'd just like to say that to me the bug type is realted to being artistic and the two bug users in this video are into art. I feel so validated right now ♥
I have learned many things from this. One of them also happens to be that the dating sim ive been playing uses actual people/names as the bases of their characters and it isn't just made up warlords and stuff. The dating sim is Ikémen Sengoku in case anyone reads this and is curious.
Lockstin continues to a man of culture, I loved the fact of tying in parts of Conquest into the upcoming Legends of Arceus! It would be fun to see if the starters have different forms than the original indeed too-- though I worry how Samurott would be
Mewtwo ended up using his psychic powers to pull a celibi. After he ended up time traveling to the past, me met Kenshin. Observing him, he decided that he was a decent guy, so he was like "Yo, imma hang around for awhile." Or: Mewtwo decided that in order to save pokemon, he must conquer the world. In order to do that, he decided to do a celibi in order to go to an Era where conquest was inevitable. But, since he is a pokemon, he decided to pull the strings behind the scenes by mind controlling Kenshin. That way, he is able to conquer and rule the world. Or: Mewtwo decided to pull a celebi to travel to Giovanni's or someone prominent in his creation so that he may ensure his existence. Like a time paradox.
Pokémon conquest is such an under appreciated game like the legendary Pokémon available are so cool and the method of not catching Pokémon but bonding with them is so cool I still play it to this day and got all the main characters maxed up with their appearances maxed out too
Keshin isn't supposed to be a ninja, he's a warrior monk. He's known as the "God of War", and he's doing Buddhist hand signs.
Thanks for pointing it out, mate, that whole section was killing me.
Beat me to it
AAAhhhh, gotcha! Something felt very off about my findings of him. That hand sign I've always associated with ninjas because of Ninja Gaiden and Naruto. Somehow the warrior monk aspect never came up for me, but admittedly there were SO many characters that I couldn't dedicate a ton of time to individuals. Unforunately because of the whole gag thing I did with him, there's not like 1 or 2 lines for me to cut out of the video with the RUclips editor, so I'll just pin your comment as a correction. :)
It's not arceus it's arkoos
Still can't unsee him about to pick his nose.
For Mitsuhide, it also makes sense for him to be the ice type trainer as that was the only type (besides dragon itself) at the time that was super effective against dragon, which was Nobonuga’s specialty
Damn you beat me to it lol
I still remember evolving my Eevee into a glaceon to fight zekrom.
Also Mitsuhide was killed by forces under Hideyoshi's command, so the Fire type makes sense for him as well.
Fun fact: In Conquest, Hideyoshi and Mitsuhide actually get some unique dialogue if they both participate in a battle on opposing sides.
@@fixedevening4623same
Easy win though
"Imagine if my legacy was, I was just as a big pokemon fan"
Goes on to suggest the video, " Grown Man lists the 20 Worst Designs".
Your scripting and timing are fantastic, never change.
Kenshin's design was more of a sohei/warrior monk than a ninja and was likely because of his devotion to Shingon Buddhism.
That's what I thought.
I love Pokémon Conquest, the unique battlefields, the historical context, and the music are all so great and unique among Pokémon!
It's the most Japanese Pokemon game. No comparison
It’s the best spin off, to me anyway.
Personally I imagine that Mewtwo found himself in the world of Conquest by way of Hoopa and he decided to roll with it.
That or he was made with black magic, I dunno
Yeah Mewtwo being there always bothers me. And it's on the damn start screen, so I have to be reminded of this aberration every single time. What Kenshin, is Cresselia not good enough for you? Or Latios/Latias? Or the Lake Trio? Or Mew? I get not doing Lugia though, because even if they gave Lugia a move that wasn't water type, it would still have an advantage over Shigen and Groudon by being Flying time and immune to Groudon's one move (Earth Power). But your Hoopa idea makes sense, even if it's only a retcon.
how about some human turn into a mewtwo ? *cough cough* dungeon
Maybe some other land created him, or he's just literally Mew's child.
"****ing Celebi..."
There’s some implications that the land of Ransei is stuck in a Medieval time loops. It’s ancient Japan in there but outside it’s the modern day. One character, the grass type warlord, mentions a book describing capturing Pokémon in what was basically described as pokeballs. And given the release date of this game it might be what they were going for
Nobunaga with Shiny Rayquaza is the sickest boss in Pokemon ever
Beat me to it!
it's not like there is much to it anyways... I mean if you consider Ultra Necrozma a boss then you don't have much to confront it with
@@manulele24 let's see...
Shadow Lugia.
Primal Dialga.
Ultra Necrozma.
Primal Groudon / Kyogre
UB!Lusamine
USUM Lysandre
BW/B2W2/USUM Ghetsis
USUM Giovanni
GSC/HGSS/USUM Red
Need I go on?
@@manulele24 Primal Dialga.
I'm upset that he missed... The reason that Mitsuhide has Ice types is bc they beat Dragon and he beat Nobunaga. It's also why Hideyoshi has Infernape, bc fire beats ice, and guess who ends up uniting all of Japan?
I think there is some justification for Mitsuhide's Ice typing Ina's Empoleon;
Mitsuhide: he was the one to betray Nobunaga, who's a dragon type user in this game, and what were dragon's 2 weaknesses at the time? It's a bit of a stretch sure, but it's still an explanation.
Ina: Being the daughter of Tadakatsu, it would make sense if her Pokemon tied into her father's reputation for being nigh invincible, so a Pokemon who, at the time, had 11 resistances and 1 immunity would fill that role nicely
I see someone else has seen the greatness that is Pokémon conquest.
This game was my childhood! I spent hours trying to find Lilligant’s perfect link trainer (because it’s my favourite Pokémon, not because I was filling a 100% thing)
Own tempo lilligant is op in this game lmao I even brought one in the last battle and destroyed some of nobunaga's army😂
Oh, it gets even better with life force. She pretty much turns into a melee turret and is unkillable on flags lol
It looks good on Oichi so I replaced Wigglytuff with it
Lilligant's perfect link is with Terumoto Mōri and Urakusai/Nagamasu Oda, if you still wanted it.
@@notIAmPlayer I’m sorry, they have TWO!?!?
Also with Mitsuhide, his use of Ice-types means he's super effective against Nobunaga but weak to Hideyoshi, which creates a power dynamic mirroring history
It really would be cool having a Dragon/Ice/Fire trio even though Dragon is not super-effective against Fire.
Ieyasu also has Registeel in the game, though I can see how that's tricky to draw a connection to. Maybe the whole "regi" = king thing, and how Ieyasu was the overall winner of the Sengoku era in real life?
Yep, you are correct.
For those who haven’t even played the games, play both Nobunaga’s Ambition and the Samurai Warriors games. If you want a good starting point, then I recommend Samurai Warriors 4, though Samurai Warriors Chronicles is regarded to be the more historical spin-off franchise
EDIT: also, to explain Kenshin; his armour isn’t meant to reflect his status as a ninja, but rather as a Buddhist. Specifically, in this depiction he is wearing a Sōhei, which was worn by warrior monks. In fact, many of his peers believed him to be an avatar of Bishamon, the Buddhist patron god of warriors.
Also, one of the more interesting facts about Kenshin is that many people believe he was a woman, with many reasons why ranging from never marrying or having kids despite preferring to hang around women rather than men, as well as having his official cause of death being uterine cancer.
I also recommend samurai warriors spirit of sanada, if you want a more focused story of the sanada clan
I think Mitsuhide uses ice types as they are super effective against dragons, and Oda uses dragons. He killed Oda irl so makes sense he would have a way to kill him more easily.
Kenshin uses Mewtwo because he was a strategic mastermind. So much so that he was given the name Bishamōnten, a Japanese Buddhism war deity. (This is super simplified here, just hitting the basics). Being considered a god is certainly grounds for a Legendary Pokemon, and fittingly a man who became a god is pared with a god made by man.
The one man who Kenshin considered his equal, as sort of shown here was Shingen. Their rivalry was so intense, that it is said when he found out about the other's death, he committed seppuku because their fight couldn't be finished.
I don't know about the truth of the story, but that's the way I like to tell it.
I know they wanted to give him a legendary but Alakazam would have worked really well considering the Pokedex talks about how smart it is.
They need to make a sequel to the game and add a Fairy type kingdom with Oichi as the ruling warlord.
Fingers crossed.
I might add that with the guy who kills Nobunaga, it makes sense that his Pokémon would be one of the few types that dragon is weak to
And Hideyoshi, who defeated Mitsuhide in battle which resulted in his death shortly after, has fire type, which is strong against ice
Can’t wait for the Pokémon: Birthright and Pokemon: Revelations videos!
I actually loled at this.
We made those jokes when Conquest and Birthright first came out, as this game was older than them.XD
It would be funnier if Pokemon: Birthright will be set in Fantasy Europe and Pokemon: Revelations, modern day I guess?
Mitsuhide likely has two strong ice type Pokemon because he was the one who killed Nobunaga, who is a dragon trainer. So, it would make sense that they would make Mitsuhide's type specialty super effective against Nobunaga, giving him the ice type.
Also makes him weak to fire
Having your right hand to be the one who have your weakness is very foolish,indeed. Thats why they called him nobunaga the fool
@@romusa10 His later in the game general is fire based so, there's that
It’s been forever since I’ve heard about Pokemon conquest, ancient Pokemon warfare sounds badass
Munching oragen is doing a play through of this game on his channel
Now it's even more relevant with Legends coming soon
I've been watching a Let's Play on a friend's channel. Channel name is Green Villains if you wanna check it out
It is
Its basically pokemon chess
Also the abilities got changed a bit to fit the game (some of them)
The warlords and warriors had their own abilities too
Some of which would allow you to move twice
Or heal
And though the pokemon had only one attack
There was so much strategy involved
A lot based around the stage you're one too
@@lillith7257 I wouldn’t gas it up that much, it’s my favorite pokemon spinoff so far often it seemed like the same strategies were always optimal: starting off the campaign by choosing violence. The only time you could face any problems is if you decided to grind.
The most challenging campaign I ever had was my “retaliation only” run where I couldn’t attack someone who didn’t attack me first because you can’t snowball as easily.
Pokemon Conquest was basically my introduction to Japanese history. Such a great game. I oughta dig up my old copy sometime
I got the game because I had learned about that era in school that year.
From what I know, the male protagonist might be based off of Oichi's husband: Azai Nagamasa. Granted, that's fan speculation, but I think at one point he betrayed Nobunaga. So...lose connection possibly?
Oh yeah...! Nagamasa is strangely missing from the game and he wasn't a no-name warlord. Good catch, fans!
Oh, really? I just thought the protagonist character was just a stand in protagonist with no historical connection. I even made a joke comment that he forgot to include the protagonist character in the video because of it.
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I think it's only for the male that fans have come up with some sort of connection, but it's more of a theory.
@@HighPriestFuneral that just made me realize that Katsuie Shibata is also missing, so for some reason both of Oichi's husbands were kept out of this game
@@camil3545 Yea, it's just weird. Other than Nagamasa and Katsuie, Sakon and Toshiie is missing too, and it's not like they're removed from the series like Musashi, Goemon, and Kojirō, where they're now just Warriors Orochi characters.
8:33 See you in a few months when Conquest is referenced in Legends Arceus' flavor text (eh it's just a hope of mine)
But also Shield's Aggron Pokedex references Ieyasu. "Long ago, there was a king who wore a helmet meant to resemble the head of an Aggron. He was trying to channel the Pokémon's strength."
Hero and Heroine in Masters When? :P (I kid of course, they won't even add the Let's Go protags because Pikachu and Eevee are already in sync pairs)
@@mattwo7 hero and heroine with arceus???
@@PokeDan0928 yes. Also if they want to be tongue in cheek with the lack of name, they could have the Hero- spelled Hiro join Masters.
Some charecters are in castles that their type doesn't belong to but still fit because of their real life counterparts like Hideyoshi who, escapes to Nene's castle after you beat him.
Shady making a playthrough, Lockstin making a video about it. Conquest is getting more popular each and every day and I am living for that. This spin-off needs redemption and a sequel. Make it happen Game Freak. Give us a new gem with new pokemon. Can you imagine a bug type warlord with Golisopod? A fairy type warlord with Florges? A dark type warlord with Greninja? A mage warlord psychic type with Delphox? MAKE IT HAPPEN RIGHT NOW.
Note for Kenshin: I have no idea how you missed this by calling him a ninja, but clan Uesugi was known for their warrior monks which is what Kenshin is designed to resemble. It also is what ties on his psychic typing.
0:03 Lol I like how the box art is full of legends and jigglypuff standing there thinking he will beat them up
One of the best Pokémon spin-offs and a part of me wish’s to have nobunaga in smash with his zekrom
Getting a Smash character from Conquest would likely indicate a rerelease\sequel, which would be great.
@@Alex_1A yeah, this game deserves a remake, re-release or sequel more than kanto in gen 7.
soldiers fighitng with pokemon is cringe when they have weapons
@@alwaysangry2232 you’re cringe
I have never clicked on a video so quickly. I've beaten the main campaign of Conquest so many times that when I saw this I immediately stopped working on what I was doing to watch this beautiful-ass video. Great Job as always Lockstin!
Apparently Pineco is part cat, because I've never heard it pronounced as "pie-neko" instead of "pine-co".
For Mitsuhide he uses ice type that matches up based on him defeating/killing nobunaga
Was I the only one that when Legends Arceus was first announced, I thought we was finally getting a new Pokémon Conquest? 😭 Anywho thank you for the video. Very informative.
I thought so as well I actually gasp cause i thought it was conquest 2
when Legends Arceus was announced Conquest was the game I first thought of
Interestingly enough, there could be an exact place in the timeline for Pokemon Conquest, possibly around the same place as Legends: Arceus. A piece of dialogue during your battle against Motonari (the Grass-type Warlord) reads: "Hey, by the way, I read that there's some faraway world where people put Pokémon into these little balls and carry them around! Pretty strange, no? Now, where did I read that...?" This would make sense, as Conquest was set around the Sengoku period (circa 1460s to 1610s). This could mean that the timeline of Hisui takes place around the same timeframe, though this theory could be debunked by further research. This is all the evidence I have though
Hisui most likely takes place around the Meiji/Taisho period. The setting is a parallel to the annexation of Hokkaido
I mean, Yoshimoto did historically die when watching a play, when he was on campaign to end the Oda clan.
Did it involve kimari?
I love this game, but man, I've spent way too long wondering why Mewtwo was there.
My best guess is Palkia kicking him through a dimensional wall
It could be that the region just just isn't with the times, I believe one of the characters said that other lands capture pokemon with poke balls~
*”GET OUT.”*
Actually, during the first battle against Greenleaf Motonari says: "I read that there's some faraway world where people put Pokémon into these little balls and carry them around."
SO GLAD to finally get confirmation that I'm not the only one who remembers Pokémon Conquest. I was starting to worry that the best Pokémon spin-off ever made was all in my head
Kenshin was associated with Bishamonten and Sohei warriors, so that's where his design comes from and why he gets Mewtwo, who is probs the closest thing to a spiritual god of warriors Pokemon had at that point.
Loved this game, especially the character designs! I wonder if they'll remake it one day...
I sincerely hope it does get remade...perhaps with a kind of visual novel style to improve the artwork and cutscenes and maybe just make the towns more explorable.
I really hope so. I want a sequel and pokemon can do it if they remade mystery dungeon and Snap
I would love to see it but only under 2 conditions. 1. Koei is again the one to make it and 2. The pokemon company doesn't breathe down their necks to rush the game. I heard legends arceus was really good so that proves that we can still get good pokemon games but most of the modern games just have something missing. I'm not sure what it is but they don't feel right. And I'm almost certain that it is caused primarily by the dev teams getting rushed along to hit a deadline. They seem to go quantity over quality these days and i don't think they'd be able to do pokemon conquest right the way their going.
Conquest is a really cool game & concept. This could be a really great remake or do a crossover with Fire Emblem or other big Nintendo franchises like Mario & Zelda. A crossover with Fire Emblem could bring about some very "intriguing" possibilities
Originally tokyo mirage sessions(think of persona and BTS getting it on and bringing this into the world) was going to be a fire emblem and Pokémon crossover
Heck, since it was a game done alongside Koei, I feel like Pokemon Dynasty could work, as some sort of next installment to Conquest that isn't really a sequel kinda thing.
@@kiwiseatpumpkinpie1709 I thought Pokémon Conquest was originally pitched as a Pokémon/Fire Emblem crossover, and I’m pretty sure TMS was always planned to be some form of SMT/Fire Emblem combination.
@@AzureGreatheart I'm pretty sure that the FE dev team wanted to make a pitch to do a crossover between FE and pokemon to bring more attention to their franchise but someone already brought the idea to do a crossover between pokemon and nobunaga's ambition which the head honchos were already leaning towards green lighting. FE got beaten to the punch. If you want to fact check that for yourself I got my information from an hour long video on the history of the FE franchise. Pretty sure the video was made by this channel
If conquest ever gets a remake then keiji NEEDS a Mudsdale
Are you telling me none of the ninja character, or just any character, have a Staryu or Starmie 😑
A pokemon who literally is inspired by throwing stars, celestial bodies, a Japanese monster and has a cry "Hiya"...
God did I freaking love Conquest as a kid. I still replay it every few years and I ALWAYS have to look up a guide to evolving the Warlords. But still an awesome game I would love an updated version, remake, or whatever of this amazing game.
My strategy is usually get their perfect link, get them to 100% and if that doesn’t work then try it again in their story or after beating it.
Muneshige: “I am the best samurai in western Japan!” *refuses to elaborate further, leaves* 💪
I've always found Hosokawa Gracia's life story to be very interesting. I actually live very close to her original Catholic burial site.
Her husband was friends with "Justo" Takayama Ukon, who was a Christian daimyo. Ukon was eventually exiled to Manila due to his faith. He was actually made a saint just a few years ago in 2016.
When Gracia received the news that Christianity had been forbidden by Hideyoshi, she decided to be baptized in secret. She was eventually killed by her retainer during Ishida's attack on Osaka Castle since she refused to commit suicide due to her faith.
Her death was so unpopular that Ishida's reputation and campaign suffered and this may have had a significant part in events leading to the rise of the Tokugawa Shogunate
I really wish that Pokemon Conquest got more love and recognition. It is an amazing game, and I still hold out hope, that maybe 1 day, it will get a remake, or even a remastered version for the Switch [or whatever other console that may be in the future]
Their seem to be so many versions of how Nobunaga died, or in some cases didn't. Feels like every time i read or hear about it, it's changed again. Guess that just shows no one knows for certain what happened.
Time for another banger, also join the Ransei region discord
So true bestie
@@sterling8389 So true
First Shadypenguinn starts playing Pokémon Conquest, and now Lockstin is covering it! Nice to see this game getting some attention for once (:
I won't lie. I was addicted to this game a few months ago, where I started from scratch, and it took me ~15 hours to complete the story mode, then I spent another 80 or so hours doing every other single side mission/post game thing [yes... EVERYTHING else], and I have nearly made a complete 100% of the game, and I don't regret it.
I actually wished they gave Yoshihiro a cat Pokemon. Yoshihiro was known for his huge love of cats and built shrines for them when he was alive that still stand and are being cared for to this day.
I can't wait for you to run out of content and end up doing "all food and drink in Pokemon cafe mix explained"
Not sure if you noticed this after the fact, but Mitsuhide's pokemon are possibly Lapras and Articuno for the fact they're incredibly strong ice types that would be able to fight on equal footing against Nobunaga's dragons, to reference the fact Mitsuhide was the warrior that defeated Nobunaga and lead to the whole end himself thing
Adding to Oichi, in hindsight, it's fitting that she uses a pokemon that would later on become a Fairy Type, considering her role in the game of opposing Nobunaga.
*EDIT:* Also... some details you also missed.
The reason why Muneshige also has an Emolga is because of his ties to Ginchiyo.
Kanbei having a Lampent line is a reference to Hanbei's ties to lantern lights, iirc.
Hattori Hanzo wasn't really a Ninja, more of a Samurai who took command of Ninja.
The reason why Shingen has a fan is a reference to the story of him stopping Kenshin's sword with a paper fan.
....Brah, you mixed up ground-types for Rock types for Keiji's bit.
Adding to why Ranmaru has a Lucario as his perfect link is because it's super-effective against Ice-types, thus making him a better retainer for Nobunaga.
God this game is so good
Also join the Ransei Region discord ;)
One of my favorite non-mainstream Pokémon games. This video definitely brought back some fond childhood memories.
The farthest I got was in like the third castle or whatever with umbreon, jigglypuff, and a magikarp that I thought would do something
i somehow managed to beat the main story even though i had no idea what i was doing lol
How did you have an Umbreaon by the third castle?
@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 idk I haven't played the game since I was like in elementary school, I think I left off at a sandy place or something
That's strange considering umbreon is only obtainable by evolving eevee at 70% link (a really high level) in the dark type kingdom (should be the 11th or 10th kingdom you fight & conquer in the main story.
Fun fact~! On top of being known as Bishmonten, the god of war, Uesugi Kenshin is someone that historians are unsure of the actual gender of. Kenshin never took a wife and had free access to the women's quarters at the imperial palace. Also, despite being assassinated, Kenshin was also diagnosed with cancer which was recorded using a word that has several translations, but one of them was 'uterine cancer.'
While not done here, there are some other fictional depictions that make Kenshin a woman.
I think you forgot Registeel in Ieyasu’s perfect link Pokémon. A perfect Pokémon for defense, even more so than Aggron. (Registeel is an absolute pain to unlock and find, though)
25:00 Because Ranmaru was a Wakashu, and Shudo was common practice in Feudal Japan .
Ironically his Pokemon have the edge against Nobunaga's.
This game is somehow one of my favorite games of all time. I still don’t know how I got it but I absolute love this game wholeheartedly.
I love this! Conquest is my favorite Pokemon game, and I just started playing it again recently.
It was really cool to learn all this about these characters, and it explains a lot about what happens in the game. For example, in Mitsuhide's story, he is opposing Nobunaga's army, and in Ujiyasu's story, he opposes the warring Shingen and Kenshin.
However, I must point out you failed to mention that Ieyasu uses a Registeel as well as Aggron.
Pokemon Conquest was one of my favorites too! Hope they bring it back in one way or another
A couple of things to add:
Types mattered to an extent in Pokemon Conquest. Mitsuhide killed Nobunaga in history, which is why he’s ice type.
Hideyoshi got revenge for that killing, which is why he’s fire type.
Ieyasu was known for being a very patient person, stalwart like the steel type. He also helped break Ujiyasu’s siege, so steel beats rock.
Kotaro killed Hanzo, so his dark type beats ghost type.
Yukimura singlehandedly slowed Ieyasu’s unification spree, so he’s fire type.
There’s many more than just this too. TvTropes compiled quite a few ones, actually.
Motochika in Samurai Warriors is depicted as a cool pirate of sorts, and during the late warring states period, it was the Chosokabe that used a naval fleet. That explains his water typing.
Yoshimoto is a bit of a gag. In Pokemon Conquest, Forretress is the game’s joke Pokemon, and Yoshimoto as a warrior is not the best stat or ability wise. Despite his fearsome history, he’s best known for dying to young and bold Nobunaga, so popular media treat him like a joke, even though he was once feared throughout Japan. His love of kemari was actually his son’s hobby, who was the actual historical fool.
Kiyomasa has a Haxorus compared to Masanori’s Krookodile and Mitsunari’s Bisharp because he was the highest ranked of the three and Haxorus is (technically) the best of the three Pokemon.
Finally, in Samurai Warriors 3, when Hanbei dies, he tells Kanbei that he’ll always be a light that shines over Kanbei, and the latter has a candle Pokemon. Pretty heartwarming.
A pretty good analysis all-around. I learned a few things too. Did Gracia’s family really wear all black?
As a history nerd, conquest is by far my favorite spin off game.
I love this video so much, Pokémon Conquest is my favorite game and no one ever talks about it, it’s criminally underrepresented and deserves a sequel so much.
I belly laughed when you said “you are what you eat, and he was stabbed in the stomach. Making him a ninja” 😂 that’s great
There is a character called Chacha that uses the blond girl sprite, she could be a reference to nobunaga's niece and Oichi's Daughter.
I hope they remake this, actually it'd be funny to see a hack and slash warriors style game with Pokemon as well.
For Nobunaga, Mitsuhide, and Hideyoshi, their types are based on who beat who (dragon
I need to play this game. It looks and sounds so cool.
I actually started playing this game again about a month ago and REALLY wanted to learn about the real world equivalents to these warlords, so this video is an actual blessing
I LOVED this game! Grabbed it in total confusion in the Middle East lol
This is the earliest I have ever been to your videos. I love the work man
Yes we are talking about this, if Legends Arceus is canon and Conquest isn't still I am going to be pissed
Edit: But it makes sense and I definitely didn't forget about Kenshin
Honestly pokemon conquest was literally one of my favorite spin off games. I loved the art style and the gameplay. I found it fun as a kid. Glad to see you cover it c:
Finally!!! Thanks for making a video based off of Pokemon Conquest
Lockstin really gives his all to have a unique pokemon orientated content, keep up with the uniqueness and great content
Hideyoshi was unlike most samurai or high ranking strategist and warriors, initially a peasant, and his skill and determination were noted by Oda Nobunaga who proceeded to train and help him become the Warlord he was, and eventually even getting to be Shogun, Nobunaga may have been a crazy evil bastardad, but at least he didn't care if you were a noble or just Common folk
I love this game and for the last... 3~4 months(?) I'm trying to perfect link all warriors and warlords... 275 hours in.
WHEN YOU SAID YOU WERE DOING POKEMON CONQUEST I WAS SO READY
and boy I didn't even need to wait long for it XD
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!
A fun fact, all warlords often have secondary types that they are able to Link well with, often in the 90% levels instead of their max 100% (the Mons mentioned in the videos and appear in their art and reactions). For example, Nobunaga, Oichi, and Nõ all have great sync levels with dragon types alongside their standard Electric, Normal, Ghost respectively. This was one of the ways that foreshadowed Oichi’s relation to Nobunaga for those who didn’t know Japanese history.
In addition, Nobunaga also has a perfect link with Hydreigon.
I loved this game when I was younger and I love it now. From designs to gameplay it’s wonderful
ive been working over the quarantine to 100% this game and I love it the music, the characters, everything is just so great!
It’s because of this game I made a warriors spinoff using different mons and the period
Just the designs are so good
As someone who plays Fate Grand Order, everytime Lockstin says Nobunaga my brain just goes 'NOBBU NOBBU!'
YES!!!
I love pokemon conquest so I'm glad that someone is finally paying attention to it
You forgot about the male Player character was Based on Oichi's Husband Nagamasa Azai which why she is willing to help the player in the story
The fact that you did a video on one of my favorite pokemon games 🥺 It's like Christmas
Always happy to see this game getting some love. It was definitely one that I just unexpectedly ended up loving the first time I was able to play it.
I had no idea that other people liked this game considering by when I told people about it they had no clue. It’s awesome to see that it got some needed attention considering that it is one of my favourite titles
Finally a video about this game, my personal favorite spin off. Very underrated and underplayed, it’s very fresh from everything else in the game, hence the fact it’s a positioning strategy based game like Chess, Fire Emblem, or any of the past Nobunaga games. I’ll be awaiting a 3D remake of this, it’ll look very majestic and different from most games today, especially it would be under a very mainstream franchise, Pokémon.
Thx for this vid :)
I really want they make the Pokémon and Fire Emblem crossover that this game originally was. FE has many characters that would pair up really well with pokémons (Sigurd with Rapidash, for example).
I once considered becoming a poketuber to make a series about personalities of each type specialists personality, like astrology. But I'm too coward for taht, so I'd like to entrust that to Lockstin if he is interested. I'd just like to say that to me the bug type is realted to being artistic and the two bug users in this video are into art. I feel so validated right now ♥
I have learned many things from this. One of them also happens to be that the dating sim ive been playing uses actual people/names as the bases of their characters and it isn't just made up warlords and stuff. The dating sim is Ikémen Sengoku in case anyone reads this and is curious.
Lockstin continues to a man of culture, I loved the fact of tying in parts of Conquest into the upcoming Legends of Arceus! It would be fun to see if the starters have different forms than the original indeed too-- though I worry how Samurott would be
Mewtwo ended up using his psychic powers to pull a celibi. After he ended up time traveling to the past, me met Kenshin. Observing him, he decided that he was a decent guy, so he was like "Yo, imma hang around for awhile."
Or: Mewtwo decided that in order to save pokemon, he must conquer the world. In order to do that, he decided to do a celibi in order to go to an Era where conquest was inevitable. But, since he is a pokemon, he decided to pull the strings behind the scenes by mind controlling Kenshin. That way, he is able to conquer and rule the world.
Or: Mewtwo decided to pull a celebi to travel to Giovanni's or someone prominent in his creation so that he may ensure his existence. Like a time paradox.
Pokémon conquest is such an under appreciated game like the legendary Pokémon available are so cool and the method of not catching Pokémon but bonding with them is so cool I still play it to this day and got all the main characters maxed up with their appearances maxed out too
I'm a massive fan of Samurai Warriors, played my PS2 into ruin on that game. I love this crossover so darn much
We need a sequel to this where the characters all use their appropriate Hisuian Pokémon.
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