There's something different about the Fantastic Four movie's rumored Silver Surfer

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  • @kidanarchy2105
    @kidanarchy2105 8 месяцев назад +320

    So on the topic of why Silver Surfer tells people about Galactus, I always assumed that *wasn't* part of his job. He does that so that, if the species has interstellar capabilities they can escape before Galactus arrives. Norrin is incredibly empathetic, and would likely want to save as many people as possible without directly betraying Galactus, as that would doom Zenn-La.

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 8 месяцев назад +28

      Yeah that about sums it up.

    • @kapitankapital6580
      @kapitankapital6580 8 месяцев назад +42

      The idea that he's hoping that one day Galactus will come across a planet strong enough to kill him and he warns them to give them time to prepare is actually pretty neat. You can totally imagine Galactus in his ego just assuming he's going to tell people how big and scary he is. I think it gives the Silver Surfer a bit more agency which is nice.

    • @traviswright2648
      @traviswright2648 8 месяцев назад +2

      So we aren't explicitly told that's why he is doing it.

    • @jts8053
      @jts8053 8 месяцев назад +13

      At one point, the lore was that Surfer was trying to find uninhabited planets for him, but G is hungry and in a hurry when they come across Earth.

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@traviswright2648 I think he did say it at some point but I'm not sure how to find anything specific.

  • @exqueue3813
    @exqueue3813 8 месяцев назад +121

    My assumption was always that the Surfer announces the arrival of Galactus to give sentients a chance to leave. Galactus is looking to eat the planet, plus or minus a few thousand bipeds doesn't matter to him.

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 8 месяцев назад +19

      Correct. It's the planet itself, not the ones who live on it. So they do it as a matter of mercy.

    • @KazikoWhite
      @KazikoWhite 8 месяцев назад +2

      So now will Galactus specifically be eating Celestial eggs? Planets which require civilisation to get to a certain point, so there will ALWAYS be collateral?

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@KazikoWhite The celestial egg is an option, but not all versions do that. We'll have to wait and see what they do with him in this movie.

  • @CMMaddenJr
    @CMMaddenJr 8 месяцев назад +52

    I just don’t want them to rush into Galactus and Silver Surfer this early, that’s my issue. I was kinda hoping this first movie would do like Mole Man and Giganto with some Doom setup for the sequel

    • @Mrgaunt1
      @Mrgaunt1 7 месяцев назад +1

      This!

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 7 месяцев назад +4

      I agree I hope the MCU doesn't go with the Internet crowd because that's why they're in trouble situation they're in
      They all want an end game fight in every product despite what they're liking in slow build shows like the Loki or Gotc 3

    • @HellHazAtTheZoo
      @HellHazAtTheZoo 7 месяцев назад +1

      I don’t know if I want Doom in a sequel movie. I like the idea of an FF movie leading into a show and that’s where Doom can really shine

  • @skrrskrr
    @skrrskrr 8 месяцев назад +206

    Yeah, my only problem with this is that it decreases the chances of her coming back as Magik. It hurts my soul.

    • @aritergriffande4563
      @aritergriffande4563 8 месяцев назад +5

      Me 2! I’d love for her to reprise that role😩

    • @3z3O
      @3z3O 8 месяцев назад +5

      Not really she’s probably gonna be covered in some iron metal and don’t see the skin of silver surfer. She can definitely play another role too

    • @DylanMadd
      @DylanMadd 8 месяцев назад +2

      Sure she was great! Thing is, like Inhumans, I bet they act like it didn’t even happen. Or if they acknowledge it, it’ll be like Dr Strange 2 where we’re familiar with the character (Black Bolt) in passing but they don’t really connect it. Who knows…? Frankly, I’d be all in on brand new mutants & XMen.

    • @MichaelHeide
      @MichaelHeide 8 месяцев назад +4

      Just get the Sith girl from Ahsoka to play Ilyana.

    • @lightdarkequivalent7143
      @lightdarkequivalent7143 7 месяцев назад +1

      she fucking killed it as magik, like when I saw her clips from that ass new mutants movie, I just went "holy shit that's Illyana IN THE FLESH"

  • @smartybabytv5547
    @smartybabytv5547 8 месяцев назад +34

    She could just be a human antagonist who isn’t the main villain

    • @NybergCarl
      @NybergCarl 7 месяцев назад +2

      A human from another timeline trying to get F4 to switch universes?

  • @Frankoman64
    @Frankoman64 8 месяцев назад +50

    In our reality the heralds serve a narrative purpose because it's more interesting of you know an apocalypse is coming so you can try and stop it. In the marvel reality the heralds give species a chance to mass evacuate(like the skrulls did) because it's not the life on the planet that galactus is meant to destroy but the celestial eggs at the center of all planets.

    • @MrElbowsmash
      @MrElbowsmash 8 месяцев назад +5

      Someone should tell Galactus it's not healthy to eat eggs every day. 🤔 Then again, maybe he just needs his celestial protein and iron.

    • @Vor567tez
      @Vor567tez 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@MrElbowsmash And which rat going to tie the bell around the cat?

  • @TheAdventureTom
    @TheAdventureTom 8 месяцев назад +24

    If Galactus gives plenty of warning he can say he's following international law and not committing a war crime

    • @Selfinflictedhummusrocket
      @Selfinflictedhummusrocket 8 месяцев назад +1

      That is exactly how it works. Glad you understand war crimes, like that suprise attack thanos did 🟦⬜️

    • @jesusgarza7960
      @jesusgarza7960 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Selfinflictedhummusrocketi assume ur joking

  • @skrrskrr
    @skrrskrr 8 месяцев назад +33

    They also turned Shalla-Bal into a female Silver Surfer for a single issue in Earth X before dying in battle. I think they could do something like that where both of them are Silver Surfers in the movie, or Shalla-Bal took Norrin's place out of love. Could potentially end with one of them sacrificing themselves for Earth, and the other going on as an enemy of Galactus.

  • @EricTheMage
    @EricTheMage 8 месяцев назад +10

    I just want Taylor Swift's Dazzler to be the Herald of Galactus for no other reason than I want to watch the world burn.

  • @lamarlewis1720
    @lamarlewis1720 8 месяцев назад +13

    I think you underestimate how much ppl actually like the silver surfer. He's arguably more popular than F4 and we've seen a good surfer. It would be a distracting change. With how shallow the fantastic 4 rouges gallery is and how most of them aren't popular at all it makes more sense to genderbend someone who isn't so well known as they'll have more flexibility with the character.

    • @stopgenduh1690
      @stopgenduh1690 8 месяцев назад +10

      Literally if they made The Wizard or someone else at that level a woman nobody would ever give a shit

    • @julianxamo7835
      @julianxamo7835 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@stopgenduh1690Anya would be a cool Wizard

  • @88rodrigo88
    @88rodrigo88 8 месяцев назад +59

    When the rumor surfaced about Anya Taylor-Joy joining the Fantastic Four cast, I initially felt disappointed as I admired her portrayal of Magik. However, I imagined her as Valeria Richards. Considering Pedro Pascal's casting as Mr. Fantastic, it's noteworthy that at least half of the Richards´ family now has Latin representation

    • @noamasaf2668
      @noamasaf2668 7 месяцев назад +3

      i mean realistically if pascal is latin and mr fantastic then obviously they’ll look to cast young latin actors as his children lol. i do think she’s beyond the level of playing a child to a MCU superhero, she’s like a star now

    • @blukins8
      @blukins8 7 месяцев назад

      Reed Ramírez confirmed hell yeah

    • @thespitefulartist
      @thespitefulartist 7 месяцев назад +2

      Representation only matters if it's original not forced like this

    • @88rodrigo88
      @88rodrigo88 7 месяцев назад

      @@thespitefulartist So you don't like Pedro Pascal's cast?
      Also, being Latina was never a factor for Anya's cast, Magik is Russian for example.

    • @thespitefulartist
      @thespitefulartist 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@88rodrigo88 Love the guy genuinely he's in my top 5 favorites acting now but i just don't see him as Reed.

  • @katanaridingremy
    @katanaridingremy 8 месяцев назад +15

    They absolutely should never do mirror villains

    • @jerfuhrer2581
      @jerfuhrer2581 7 месяцев назад +1

      But the Frightful Four are super fun and interesting! The Wizard, Medusa, Hydro Man and uh....hm....

    • @6aboyplays396
      @6aboyplays396 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@jerfuhrer2581 nah say it ....paste pot pete😈

    • @jerfuhrer2581
      @jerfuhrer2581 4 месяца назад

      @@6aboyplays396 Lmao!!! He can still be an interesting foil!! If Spider-Man's webbing is valid, so is his glue!

  • @geospecies
    @geospecies 8 месяцев назад +7

    I think it is Frankie Raye but she will not be called Nova but Firelord instead . The MCU is known of combining characters

  • @Grimner5358
    @Grimner5358 7 месяцев назад +12

    I think she’d be a lot better as a Mad Thinker. I think it’s too quick to pull out Galactus this early, and the female Mad Thinker from Ultimate comics would be super compelling in her hands. If I were having my cake, I’d have her as Mad Thinker, calculating the odds of Earth’s survival in the background of the plot to prepare for Galactus in the post-credits scene, thereby alerting Reed and Sue to the danger.
    Plus, Norris Radd is my favorite super hero, in Marvel or DC. I’d kill to have a comic book-accurate version in cinema (but, you know, in a good movie this time).

    • @TwinRiver100
      @TwinRiver100 7 месяцев назад +3

      🤔the Mad Thinker idea is an interesting one. I'd be curious in a few details of that kind of thread. Also I think that's a role that I think others might be ok with genderswapping.
      I agree that maybe it might to be too early to rush into Galatcus. Unless they were REALLY sure of what they were doing.

  • @mysticalcomic
    @mysticalcomic 8 месяцев назад +44

    Silver Surfer finds planets for Galactus because it takes so much energy for him to travel the universe searching for planets that can actually properly fuel him. But yeah, him announcing Galactus is coming kind of doesn't make sense

    • @gr8tbigtreehugger
      @gr8tbigtreehugger 8 месяцев назад +11

      It does allow space fairing civilizations to flee.

    • @traviswright2648
      @traviswright2648 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@gr8tbigtreehugger, yeah, so starve his God got it.

    • @ez6888
      @ez6888 8 месяцев назад

      @@traviswright2648Galactus doesn’t feed on flesh and biological life. Beings dying is just a byproduct. What he eats are celestial bodies.. it doesn’t matter one way or the other for him if the planet is completely abandoned or not

    • @minops999
      @minops999 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@traviswright2648 Galactus gets energy from eating the planet, not peoples

    • @skeletor4436
      @skeletor4436 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@traviswright2648it's not starving Galactus. Galactus seeks to eat the planet not the people it's one of the reasons Galactus has heralds to warn the people of the planets so they can escape

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 8 месяцев назад +68

    I really hope we get Christmas Galactus in the MCU… I’d prefer Anya Taylor-Joy to be Jenny Sparks, but I love her as an actress so getting to her in stuff is fun

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian 8 месяцев назад +1

      I hope we get Thanksgiving Galactus

    • @thesausageman5388
      @thesausageman5388 7 месяцев назад +2

      I mean I wouldn’t say it’s likely, but Jenny Sparks is DC, so theoretically, she could do both. Especially if Jenny Sparks is a relatively minor character in Authority or Superman, as the 20th century is over.

  • @shaztalion
    @shaztalion 7 месяцев назад +9

    In terms of heralds of Galactis... What about the Ultimate version of Moondragon? I could see them incorporating a version of her, perhaps blending with 616's origin where she's actually actually Drax's daughter (not the daughter of the man whose soul became Drax) and she survived, and could even reunite with him. We do have Phylla-Vell now after all, so it's not entirely unplausible of a rewrite

  • @dr00ku
    @dr00ku 8 месяцев назад +14

    Does Sue Storm as Malice count as a female FF villain? But even so I never realized how few women they had in their rogues gallery.

  • @alexhassestunts
    @alexhassestunts 8 месяцев назад +6

    I’m not against a woman Silver Surfer, my only thing is that I don’t know if it’s worth it when we’re gonna have to deal with all of the incels and MCU fanboys making video essays about it for the next three years.

    • @ejc2064
      @ejc2064 7 месяцев назад +1

      its stupid surfer is iconic image lets just make good movies instead of rage baiting incels.Ther is no reason for this other then that. Disney is going to step up and fir kevin if they dont stop. Its costing them money. The good will has worn off just do the books pick one of the best ones and do that why is that Fn so hard!

    • @Ben-zg8xk
      @Ben-zg8xk 2 месяца назад

      bad take, shouldve been norrin, hes the more popular version, shouldve genderbent a different character

  • @Jack-sy8mr
    @Jack-sy8mr 8 месяцев назад +9

    Curious what they’ll do, they may be concerned how parents will feel about a naked silver woman in the movie, even with Barbie doll anatomy

    • @loglorn
      @loglorn 7 месяцев назад

      Was that ever a problem with Mistique? In the 2000's trilogy at least she spent most of her time as a naked blue woman.

    • @Bonaboo
      @Bonaboo 7 месяцев назад

      I really don’t know why the anti-woke crowd is so mad about the idea of a hot naked woman flying around

  • @colesonlamb5981
    @colesonlamb5981 7 месяцев назад +5

    It seems weird to me to do female Silver Surfer for a few reasons.
    1. You could replace Norrin with Juno and be 100% comic accurate, but then you're talking a niche character and making them even more niche, not using the most popular version of the character. Kinda like if the first time we saw Spiderman it was Ben Rielly, it would be kinda weird.
    2. You could make Norrin Radd female, but then you're changing the source material, which hasn't worked great sometimes like in Thor 4 and Iron Man 3. Other times it has worked out, but current Marvel seems less likely to deliver a billion dollar hit right now.
    I get the desire to have more female characters in FF, but I just don't think this is the best way to do it, mind you I don't know another way we could do it

  • @Idnthev1
    @Idnthev1 7 месяцев назад +2

    I feel like it would be so simple for galactus to just have multiple silver surfer heralds and Juno is just the one that shows up to earth

  • @jsekula3
    @jsekula3 8 месяцев назад +1

    Why does this feel like the most unhinged Nando Cut video 😂

  • @ShiroiAkuma
    @ShiroiAkuma 8 месяцев назад +1

    I keep hearing you say you “yeet your planet”.
    So for me, I forever will refer to him eating a planet as “yeeting your planet”.

  • @MrEnKaye
    @MrEnKaye 8 месяцев назад +18

    Solid video, good points honestly. However, if the only/main reason for changing a character is "why not?" then my argument is, "why?"

    • @johnny4560
      @johnny4560 8 месяцев назад +1

      He mentioned how it would balance out the gender ratio.

    • @thecaptaindeadpool5098
      @thecaptaindeadpool5098 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@johnny4560 gender ratio💀💀💀💀

    • @VirgilOvid
      @VirgilOvid 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@johnny4560gender ratio doesn't need to be balanced. The audience is mainly male so it's kinda weird to focus so much on making the cast all (Marvels) or equally female-led. You want gokd representation but that doesn't mean 50:50. This Fantastic Four movie is already making a huge change by having Sue be the main character. Marvel needs to chill.

    • @cosmicmaster1006
      @cosmicmaster1006 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@VirgilOvidwell given that sue is the heart of the team id say that makes sense. But how do you expect them to get more girls into this stuff if basically every story is 90% male dominated.
      There's nothing wrong with having a female focused film like the marvels.

    • @VirgilOvid
      @VirgilOvid 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@cosmicmaster1006 How do you get guys to watch Disney movies? Should the next Frozen have a male lead? Should Little Mermaid remake have made Eric the main character? Lilo & Stitch was my favorite Disney animated movie but at no point did I think "David better get more screen time or I'm gonna riot".
      We can like stuff that aren't tailored for us. Superhero stories are never going to he FOR girls just like Disney Animation will never be FOR boys: we want different things out of entertainment. If you change it completely to appease girls you ge The Marvels which is still mostly watched by dudes because girls aren't super into the genre and that's not changing.

  • @mattheendpod2659
    @mattheendpod2659 8 месяцев назад

    Really great vid! I had jumped to conclusion and only happy to be corrected.

  • @bernRA
    @bernRA 8 месяцев назад

    Apologies for not content related query; where do you get those soft cotton shirts?

  • @adamlegros1180
    @adamlegros1180 8 месяцев назад +1

    Noooooo the silver surfer looks for UNINHABITED planets, and he warns anyone who might be there to spare lives

  • @AT-jm4dl
    @AT-jm4dl 8 месяцев назад +3

    It's silly for anyone to get all worked up of a rumor.

    • @cometpunch
      @cometpunch 7 месяцев назад +1

      Until the movie is cast, I'm taking all the rumors with a grain of salt. Already tired of the discourse, especially from people who aren't even fans of the comics

  • @TwinRiver100
    @TwinRiver100 7 месяцев назад +3

    18:44
    as far as female villains from FF, there was Malice The Mistress of Hate from the 1980s and the 1990s. I think she got exposed to The Hate Monger and she ended wearing that really revealing outfit and the spike mask. It was a two part story that took place during the events of Secret Wars 2, where The Beyonder came to Earth and was wearing that disco suit. Also the part 2 of that story is the issue where there's that panel where Reed Richards smacks Sue Storm in the face. This was to get her to snap out of the Hate Monger's control.
    ...not the best example I know of female villains for the FF, but I just thought I should mention her.
    but yeah, I honestly didn't really realize the FF has very little in the way of female bad guys. At least from the blocks of comics that I've read. The only other one I can think of aside from a small bit of villainy from Lyja the Lazerfist when she returned, the Skrull Empress Veranke was indirectly a bad guy of the Fantastic Four when Paibok the Powerskrull captured the team in the 90s.

  • @Pensive_Melancholy_
    @Pensive_Melancholy_ 7 месяцев назад +6

    I would love if the MCU broke continuity and just started making movies based on the comics. Just pull in characters from Marvel and make movies. No timelines, no Disney plus connectivity just great movies using characters in marvel lore.

    • @Korsvejgaard
      @Korsvejgaard 7 месяцев назад

      So like the Fox X-Men movies?

  • @CSPRING101
    @CSPRING101 8 месяцев назад +4

    I think people just wanna see the comic characters on screen, I really don’t think it’s more complicated then that

  • @eugeneperry8347
    @eugeneperry8347 8 месяцев назад +4

    For many of the reasons you list I don't like Galactus being the FF's first out.

    • @ejc2064
      @ejc2064 7 месяцев назад

      Honestly I want ff but I dont know if i even want FF in a ff movie yet.

  • @jmattos
    @jmattos 7 месяцев назад

    I love these detailed breakdowns. LOVE THEM. I didn't know any of this (or I didn't remember it, possibly) but its cool.. and also.. comics are weird.

  • @user-lp3ew1xb5u
    @user-lp3ew1xb5u 7 месяцев назад

    I didn't know anything about Franky's origin - before my time - I just remember her being Silver Surfer's long-time love interest in the 90s.

  • @plushiesdx
    @plushiesdx 7 месяцев назад

    17:07 well... Galactus doesn't have a true form that people can comprehend... just a representation of what people comprehend him to look like

  • @hvarvelous
    @hvarvelous 7 месяцев назад

    All this talk of heralds and I’m still waiting for Whirlwind to give our heroes grief for all of three minutes onscreen.

  • @Concherto
    @Concherto 8 месяцев назад +44

    If you wanted female F4 villains, then Disney should have actually developed the Skrulls properly.

  • @Rin-pd5rt
    @Rin-pd5rt 7 месяцев назад

    Plot twist: Fantastic 4 vs Magik, that's the movie

  • @sovietpersonman
    @sovietpersonman 8 месяцев назад +1

    i feel the only solution is make Dazzler the Herald of Galactus

  • @mrbaldy1665
    @mrbaldy1665 8 месяцев назад +1

    Agree that they shouldn't use Frankie because she is just Human Torch. But in the Silver Surfer cartoon, she had a different origin that she just got her powers from th e power cosmic, no pre-existing powers.

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa 8 месяцев назад

      She's way more than just a human torch, this guy doesn't know anything about her and did a quick wiki search to make this video.

  • @ArtByDesign80
    @ArtByDesign80 8 месяцев назад +1

    My favorite herald was Nova (Frankie Raye)!

  • @kellyloganme
    @kellyloganme 6 месяцев назад

    Heralds - Galactus started with Silver Surfer, but they were too compassionate and betrayed Galactus, which is why Silver Surfer was bound to the Earth for many years.
    Galactus still liked the 'someone else hunting for for me' gig, but wanted someone less compassionate who wouldn't care how many people were killed so Terrax, former brutal dictator, was chosen. Terrax betrayed Galactus for power.
    There's a general theme that reach time someone is turned into a herald either the process or just the massive amount of power they are given seems to accentuate some inner trait.

  • @alexandernewell8583
    @alexandernewell8583 7 месяцев назад

    Damn, that random Invincible spoiler just as I'm working through the show. 😢

  • @TwinRiver100
    @TwinRiver100 7 месяцев назад

    2:59
    i remember in a What if I think around Terrax's tenure, Dazzler ended up becoming a herald for a story.

  • @azulfuego998
    @azulfuego998 8 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe this was the meeting Mila Kunis had with Marvel. And the Thing rumor was just a wild goose chase, to throw the scent off.

  • @magicoA
    @magicoA 8 месяцев назад

    Lol,was anyone else practically screaming "Nora!" at their screen?

  • @kellyloganme
    @kellyloganme 6 месяцев назад

    Norrin Radd pleaded for his planet to be spared. Galactus was moved by his argument and made a deal. Norrin Radd leaves with Galactus to scout out planets. Galactus doesn't have to spend time searching for planets that have sufficient life and Norrin has the opportunity to suggest planets that have life but not major civilizations.
    So Galactus said, 'hey, I see where you're coming from about not genociding civilizations, but if you want to prove how dedicated you are to that, leave your planet, never come back and *you* pick out planets from now on.'

  • @nickotine5006
    @nickotine5006 7 месяцев назад +1

    I actually really like the idea ngl

  • @sylviahoward1065
    @sylviahoward1065 7 месяцев назад

    The thing with Heralds is that even in real life, things that aren't super practical still appear in cultures around the world, so its not out of the ordinary to have this almost religious ceremony of announcing the arrival of Galactus

  • @tabsterg
    @tabsterg 8 месяцев назад +2

    the ammount of whining I've seen in comment sections since the rumor got reported on is insane. like even if i was into that "anti-woke" bullshit at this point i wouldn't even be caring about the mcu anymore, why is there still so much people pissing and shitting their pants everytime something like this happens when also every time they go _"the mcu sucks now, im done with it"_ and 4 years later they're still around complaining

  • @DE-ix1jl
    @DE-ix1jl 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have no distinct affinity for the Fantastic Four nor for any non-Doctor Doom villain, I’m just here because I like your videos and “scoops”. Have been since the “X isn’t X” videos however long ago.
    If I were trying to align the pieces laid out in a way that works here, it would be a neat throwback to have the original Human Torch be Frankie Raye; after the Synthesizer didn’t work the chemicals still got on her (or some other origin), she had a brief superhero stint in that relatively untouched period in the 50s/60s, then Galactus showed up and her gambit of “I’ll find a better planet for you” talks him down. Then Galactus comes back around when she or loses her humanity from all her time as some higher being. That gives an organic prompt for Johnny Storm to be called “The Human Torch” and preserves him as a legacy character-he’s written in with a previous version.
    If it’s a motive of “she lost her humanity” then it also gives a prompt for a more emotion/reason based solution, since that’s more the FF’s schtick than just brute force hitting the bad guy until they can’t be bad anymore. If they go another direction with it, I’m not too bothered by it either. It’s not like the other versions of the character just cease to be when they get adapted some other way. Feel free to ratio me to hell if what I said seems dumb.

  • @fauxjackhorseman5793
    @fauxjackhorseman5793 7 месяцев назад +1

    As much as I think using Ana Taylor Joy as anyone but Magik is a shame, I would much rather see them use her as the black swan from time runs out/secret wars and keep in line with what's going on in this phase. Idk why they're bringing in Galactus this early, especially if they're going to be rebooting the MCU, it just seems somewhat out of place with the rest of the theme of phase 4&5 to go with him instead of someone like the Molecule Man Owen Reece who plays a direct role in both the Shooter and Hickman versions of secret wars

  • @chillabrew_glycolinstall
    @chillabrew_glycolinstall 7 месяцев назад

    Let's just make him gold and give him a jetski while we're at it.

  • @Trickshot726
    @Trickshot726 7 месяцев назад

    I feel like doing a Planet-Level threat for the F4 movie, when theyre already setting up incursions & multiversal threats in everything else kind of diminishes the threat of galactus since the "world-ending threat" stories are already getting over saturated. I think doing something like the Frightful Four for the 1st movie would be a lot more interesting since they could all be good foils for the 4 individually and as a team. They could serve to help show what makes this incarnation of the F4 special & since they dont have the same powers as the 4, itd also make for fun & unique match-ups throughout the film

  • @AristoMatt
    @AristoMatt 7 месяцев назад

    I agree. I wish ATJ could continue playing Magik.

  • @MrUnkownX
    @MrUnkownX 7 месяцев назад

    She's most likely playing Frankie Raye not SS. That would make more sense, her dormant powers are activated by Johnny Storm.

  • @KevynKing
    @KevynKing 7 месяцев назад

    As far as female characters go - I just hope we eventually get Valeria, her relationship with Doom is one of my favourite parts of the Fantastic Four - and seeing exchanges like:
    "Can we go get ice cream later?" - Valeria
    "Doom will consider your request" - Doom
    Or
    "i was a God, Valeria." - Doom
    "And?" - Valeria
    "I found it...beneath me." - Doom
    Would be so amazing, just make Hickman's whole run the template for the films 🤷‍♂️

  • @BlahNetworkBro
    @BlahNetworkBro 8 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who indefinitely heavily with agender nonbinary I love the take the SS is agender so much and I love this character more now

    • @haroldhernandez1560
      @haroldhernandez1560 8 месяцев назад

      Completely agreed. A nonBinary Surfer sounds completely cooler.

  • @tylermckenzie7780
    @tylermckenzie7780 7 месяцев назад +1

    Sue and the girlfriends is a comic I would read.

    • @TwinRiver100
      @TwinRiver100 7 месяцев назад

      I think I've seen Sue do a girlfriend outting or two.
      I think this was mostly via The Lady Liberators. And some bonus stories in the recent She-Hulk books where She-Hulk hosted a book club with a few friends.
      But I think you could have a point there with maybe a Sue Storm slice of life type comic could be an interesting type angle. I know that's what I've been seeing with this current run of She-Hulk books.

  • @TwinRiver100
    @TwinRiver100 7 месяцев назад

    18:44
    also there's Lyja the Lazerfist
    She was pretending to be Alicia Masters after the events of Secret Wars. Married Johnny.
    Puppet Master figured something was off. Told The Thing. Revealed it to the FF.
    it was part of this plan of The Skrulls to get some intel and infiltrate the FF without breaking their budget to make another Super Skrull.
    so they went cheap and got somebody who was close to the FF who didn't have any super powers. So, that's why she was Alicia Masters.
    She died on their rescue mission to save the original Alicia Masters.
    But she came back a few years later and joined this small villain group that attacked Johnny Storm at Empire State University. made him end up going supernova and burning down the campus.
    She rejoined the FF for a while due to some difficulties they were having at the time.
    I think she was with the FF in the 90s until the Onslaught Saga. Wasn't there for Heroes Reborn.
    She's had a few appearances since then: Secret Invasion, Future Foundation, also she was a part of this MC2 line that was called Fantastic Five. No idea how that was as a book. Have yet to read that. I just saw that Spider-Girl had a run in with them.

  • @jetgar9783
    @jetgar9783 7 месяцев назад

    Multiverse Aunt May herald confirmed

  • @dimis_plays
    @dimis_plays 8 месяцев назад +4

    South Park really was cooking with that episode.
    Love Anya though.

    • @williampearson6299
      @williampearson6299 8 месяцев назад

      Why are you using black vernacular to attack black people? It's weird how whites co-opt the very language to make fun of the people who inspired it

  • @TwinRiver100
    @TwinRiver100 7 месяцев назад

    1:00
    I thought a hearld's job was more along the lines of scouting for planets, seeing if they had the right nutrient levels that Galactus needs to sustain himself. And then marking that planet as suitable for consumption. And then Galactus comes to eat it.

  • @Horus070
    @Horus070 8 месяцев назад +2

    I actually love the idea of Nova .. but only time will tell

  • @johnyoung1097
    @johnyoung1097 7 месяцев назад

    Malice, thundra, and that’s about it for Ff villain women. Also there is this one off issue I like where this woman use’s radioactive makeup to hypnotize men. It’s a good read

  • @waynetamz3745
    @waynetamz3745 7 месяцев назад +2

    The silver surfer norin radd is male.
    The main reason he decided to save Earth is because of Susan Storm reminds him of his wife.

    • @kingmiketodds4072
      @kingmiketodds4072 7 месяцев назад

      They going to make it to reed reminds of her husband or she lesbian and they still do the sue story

  • @Nordath1
    @Nordath1 8 месяцев назад +2

    What if Magik is the herald?

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 8 месяцев назад +2

      No that would be an interesting twist, Galactus saving her when she arrives in that universe.

  • @uhwaykin
    @uhwaykin 7 месяцев назад +8

    I think there's no good reason to gender-swap Silver Surfer if Sue Storm is the focus of the team (which I think is a good thing considering that even many comic book fans aren't aware of just how powerful she is, and I can see huge potential to simultaneously give a middle finger to some of her more misogynistic writers of the past and fill some of the space of a moral anchor that Captain America left vacant).
    Let’s also not step over Surfer’s crucial race neutrality to reach for a far less prominent gender neutrality. He has a masculine physique as Silver Surfer. Norrin Radd presented male in his origin, even if you prefer to neuter the herald. If it were remotely acceptable to depict the nude form in commercial media, the artists might have drawn him with genitals. More importantly than any of that, though, he’s a character that many young men of color who struggled to find themselves represented in the hierarchy of Marvel’s most powerful and intriguing characters, especially on the cosmic side of things, were able to project themselves onto. I think that’s a facet of Silver Surfer that has been more meaningful to many fans of the character than his conceivable gender neutrality (which frankly is an idea I've never seen emphasized or hinted at by fans or writers).
    I’m not in the “FemCU bad” camp. I even like the idea of art having an agenda both in the final product and in the process. I just think at this point in Marvel’s trajectory, maybe we should take a step back and err on the side just making a good movie that elevates the comic legacy to cinematic scale.

    • @brodyman30
      @brodyman30 7 месяцев назад

      Objectively best take

  • @davidbjacobs3598
    @davidbjacobs3598 7 месяцев назад

    Just change her name. Firelord is another herald with fire powers, call her Firelord. Heck, even Firestar, since Angelica is probably safe to ignore. Or if you don't want to go with another character's name, then... I don't know, the Greater Torch.
    I like Frankie mostly as a Silver Surfer supporting character. They have this weird sometimes-romantic friendship, and although they should usually be on opposite sides (since she works for Galactus after he leaves), they still tend to work together. It's really sweet.

  • @alexandrefrauches132
    @alexandrefrauches132 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think Anya will play Nova, considering how, before becoming Galactus Herald, Frankie was Johnny's girlfriend, which could play a role in his arc, showing how Johnny, despite being a ladies man who never seems to be worry about life, truly cares for the girls he dates and wants to have serious relationship, to marry nad have kids like his sister was able to do with Reed.

    • @amymormino3029
      @amymormino3029 8 месяцев назад

      I could see that. It would be a good way to get Johnny (who often gets the least attention in the FF) an interesting story.

  • @RonDale-jy8et
    @RonDale-jy8et 7 месяцев назад +1

    One of the reasons why there's a lack of female villains in FF< is that Stan Lee had trouble writing woman. Most of the femme characters were shipped over from the Romance genre. Read Sue/ Pepper's/ Jean's dialogue/ thought bubbles Yeesh!! Straight out of All My Children. Geesh!!

    • @TwinRiver100
      @TwinRiver100 7 месяцев назад

      oh. I didn't realize that. I think that makes a whole lot of sense. And I think I get how that could've been an issue. Too bad.
      Hopefully they fix that in whatever they've been up to with the FF these days.
      ...I really haven't read them outside their 80s and 90s run prior to the Onslaught Saga.

  • @tylerbrown5526
    @tylerbrown5526 7 месяцев назад

    Can't help but wonder if the F4 are going to be multiversal exploreres that get lost into the MCU. Maybe they've met Norrin before but they aren't expecting the Surfer to be Shalla-Bal this time.

  • @damienkakoschke3099
    @damienkakoschke3099 7 месяцев назад

    A human torch versus a human torch would be confusing for most audiences.

    • @derrickjohnson4952
      @derrickjohnson4952 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yet audiences watched 2 movies with more than 1 Spider-Man just fine.

  • @rptana7324
    @rptana7324 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think that it will make sense that it's female, according also to the rumors that say that this movie takes place on an alternate universe so this is not the main timeline

  • @coleburley
    @coleburley 7 месяцев назад

    I can see how a Frankie may Johnny storm romance could be an interesting subplot similar to like pepper and tony with an evil twist. Maybe galactus needs a new herald after the loss of a former herald like one of those other four. So you set it up as if the heralds are a necessary part of galactus’ whole eating planets thing. Then the fantastic four are doing their thing and they beat the first herald. Meanwhile, Johnny and Frankie are starting to date, maybe she even helps fight the first one. And he steals her afterwards to her prowess. The 4 fight her and she dies leading to galactus picking the silver surfer. I still want Keanu Reeves to have the opportunity to play the silver surfer. This also gives a legitimate reason as to why galactus just leaves earth. I’ve never understood how they just make him leave

  • @darthyubnub3813
    @darthyubnub3813 6 месяцев назад

    I’m hoping that they go the Hercule’s daughter because that seems more interesting then the other way.

  • @TheDrDave89
    @TheDrDave89 7 месяцев назад

    Any thoughts on her playing Valeria from the future? We don’t know she’s a villain til the 3rd act and they all team up to stop Galactus?

  • @ElOsoFamoso
    @ElOsoFamoso 7 месяцев назад

    The silver surfer would’ve honestly been a good role for Asia Kate Dillon

  • @nathancrowder9176
    @nathancrowder9176 8 месяцев назад +2

    OR, she’s playing Stardust, who is female. I was kinda hoping for a return of Laurence Fishburne. He was the best thing about that movie. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @Spam591_
    @Spam591_ 8 месяцев назад +2

    If the rumour is true that the Fantastic Four film takes place in a different universe before they transition into the main timeline, then a female Silver Surfer makes no difference anyway regardless of anyone’s gripes.
    You can still have a traditional Silver Surfer, and do a unique take on the character in a “tangent” universe

    • @ExEoDuSPrevail2011
      @ExEoDuSPrevail2011 7 месяцев назад

      That may be true but fact of the matter is nobody asked for it . Everyone wants Norin Rad why can't we just get what we're asking for? I'd feel better if they're gender swapping SS for a better story but we all know they're doing it for inclusivity which is the wrong reason because women typically don't watch superhero movies.

    • @Spam591_
      @Spam591_ 7 месяцев назад

      @@ExEoDuSPrevail2011 But… no one’s seen the movie or even know exactly what’s going to happen. So… it could be a better story as to why they’re doing it? In which case your argument completely falls apart.
      Imo there’s no point in being outraged unless they do it and mess it up. Until then, it makes no sense to be outraged about something you don’t know the outcome of, or the context of.

  • @prathapkutty7407
    @prathapkutty7407 8 месяцев назад +6

    I would've rather anya play the new Supergirl in the dcu.

  • @Concherto
    @Concherto 8 месяцев назад

    If you want an Agender F4 villain, then let's look at Annihilus.

  • @zenquantum1246
    @zenquantum1246 7 месяцев назад

    Nobody’s pulling for Golden Oldie as the Herald of Galactus? I’m sure Hostess would be on board 😉

  • @Chriscras2
    @Chriscras2 7 месяцев назад

    In an infinite multiverse there's always a chance the planet (a living planet?) is a danger to Galactus and sending the heralds serves as both an offensive and defensive strategy.

  • @iknowallthesadsongs2115
    @iknowallthesadsongs2115 7 месяцев назад +2

    I feel so much dumber by listening to this video

  • @kbg12ila
    @kbg12ila 7 месяцев назад +4

    Honestly ive not really been a fan of the casting for certain characters recently but I like this choice and i think her vibe/voice suits Silver Surfer well.

  • @alexclarksimple515
    @alexclarksimple515 8 месяцев назад

    I think about Medusa being a Villain just as much as the silver surfer. Really quickly after their introduction they become heroes.

  • @warfighter4129
    @warfighter4129 8 месяцев назад +2

    Anya Taylor Joy is a great actress, ive got faith she'll do a good job with whatever they give her. Is a shame that her Magik character likely wont come back though. Nevertheless happy that she got the silver surfer role!

  • @reyesreviews
    @reyesreviews 8 месяцев назад +1

    In my opinion I feel like the rumor is half true, I do believe we will see a herald of Galactus, but I don't think its gonna be Silver Surfer, it may be Stardust who has been a woman

  • @Rettfet7265
    @Rettfet7265 5 месяцев назад

    My question is: did Eternals kind of ruin Galactus? The reason he goes after planets is to consume the celestial eggs, right? But in Eternals they already woke the celestials and then Sersi kinda froze them. So does Galactus even have a reason to come for Earth anymore? Are there more celestial eggs in the earth? Does Galactus also want to eat dead/frozen celestials? 🤔

  • @marcusdavis6985
    @marcusdavis6985 8 месяцев назад

    Does Morgan LA Fey work

  • @champcpr
    @champcpr 8 месяцев назад +3

    I’ve even stopped adding to my comic collection because of bs like this. Once upon a time it was an event when marvel movies dropped, but now they’d be lucky if I find the time to stream them for free. Race and gender swap characters are horrible altogether, but in what universe does it make sense to introduce the alternative rather than the staple character?!? Like damn Disney this ain’t rocket science…I should’ve been a screenwriter smh

    • @demondsims5411
      @demondsims5411 7 месяцев назад

      Exactly. Im tired of the race swapping and gender bending. And Im a black man. Both of those tactics i just mentioned did not help The Marvels with DarBenn. I want to see these characters jump off the page as they were created. Im just tired of this crap. Marvel is really losing me now as a fan. Why pay all that money to get these characters back when they're going to do the same thing Fox did with these characters?!😩

  • @aaronfrantz25
    @aaronfrantz25 8 месяцев назад

    Aint no one wanna remember The Mutants

  • @Gatasma
    @Gatasma 5 месяцев назад

    Being male is absolutely a part of SS identity! His main sacrifice was to save his love SHALLA-BAL’s life!

  • @fork3810
    @fork3810 8 месяцев назад +1

    I hope that they keep Silver Surfer bald, even if it's a woman
    I just think it looks wayyy cooler without the hair

  • @autumn4652
    @autumn4652 8 месяцев назад

    10:17 in all fairness, the silver surfer is also a mirror villain

  • @IronElephantProductions
    @IronElephantProductions 7 месяцев назад

    Galactus makes sense for a fantastic four movie, but I feel it's way too early to use him. Galactus feels like an Avengers level threat. We'll see how it turns out.

  • @MichaelHeide
    @MichaelHeide 7 месяцев назад

    The only female Fantastic Four villain I can think of (that wasn't a temporary heel turn like Medusa or Malice/Sue Storm) is Victorious, Dr. Doom's right hand in the early Slott run?
    Speaking of Slott, you should absolutely read his Silver Surfer run with Mike Allred. Very accessible, absolutely fantastic.

  • @TwinRiver100
    @TwinRiver100 7 месяцев назад +8

    not sure i agree with you on the gender swap for Norrin Rad. Mostly just worries me for more fuel to the anti-Marvel fire they've been dealing with lately. The androgynous idea could maybe work.
    Right near the end of this video I think you dropped an interesting angle and take I think they could go with for that Juno Surfer.
    Like maybe due to Gor the Godbutcher having massacred most of the the gods recently and Zeus sending Hercules out, maybe Juno could also be some kind of figure whose out there. And for some reason maybe has some reason needs to join Galactus to get something she's after. And somehow that leads her to Earth and fighting the FF. Although I could see a problem with this, if they end up taking out Juno, that makes any instance in the event they want to use Norrin Rad, kind of redundant or something. Mostly becasue i'm going with the idea that most Marvel villains are one and dones, rarely staying around. With maybe a small handful of exceptions.
    I agree Anya Taylor joy is a great actress, I think I liked her in The Menu.