Why Did Fawkes’s Feather Choose Voldemort? | Harry Potter Theory

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  • @SuperCarlinBrothers
    @SuperCarlinBrothers  5 лет назад +1603

    What would you name your Phoenix?

    • @terrysteele727
      @terrysteele727 5 лет назад +62

      James

    • @Eli-et2oe
      @Eli-et2oe 5 лет назад +85

      Red Wing

    • @imayeti.4674
      @imayeti.4674 5 лет назад +332

      SuperCarlinBrothers I’ll name mine bob
      R.I.P bob 2019-2019
      I know you killed bob
      I saw the abuse

    • @typerexc
      @typerexc 5 лет назад +61

      Sparky.

    • @dan1corn618
      @dan1corn618 5 лет назад +72

      Yeet

  • @maryvallas772
    @maryvallas772 5 лет назад +8585

    What if the second wand didn't chose Harry.... what if it chose the parasitic part of Voldemort inside Harry... the same person the first wand chose?

    • @kloo_less
      @kloo_less 5 лет назад +585

      wooooooaaaaaahhhh

    • @kellyl6495
      @kellyl6495 5 лет назад +371

      Oh good one!!!!

    • @ryanlawson8468
      @ryanlawson8468 5 лет назад +770

      this is what i thought happened.

    • @HarleyWithWings
      @HarleyWithWings 5 лет назад +569

      Harry being a Horcrux honestly CAUSES PROBLEMS! 😂 I thought this too.

    • @carlrood4457
      @carlrood4457 5 лет назад +485

      That's what I always thought. It's the same reason he can speak parselmouth.

  • @sharlahoffman4326
    @sharlahoffman4326 3 года назад +576

    My theory: Fawkes’ feathers picked the two wizards who would become known for essentially raising themselves from the dead…for rising from the ashes

    • @NoName-xc6cg
      @NoName-xc6cg 3 года назад +31

      This is canon for me now

    • @So_Indecisive
      @So_Indecisive 3 года назад +9

      Yep,now canon

    • @gethriel
      @gethriel 2 года назад +6

      That's the first place my mind went.

    • @duhpig3809
      @duhpig3809 2 года назад +8

      I was just about to type that, but you beat me by 9 months

    • @calebgeater4817
      @calebgeater4817 2 года назад +2

      On my god yes

  • @blondemutant5731
    @blondemutant5731 5 лет назад +2915

    I feel emotionally hurt by what you did to mr. Bob

  • @djphroop
    @djphroop 5 лет назад +653

    My question with wands and them choosing their owner.
    "What happens if a wand chooses someone who can't afford the price tag or do wands all have a base price?"

    • @Meela-lg1pi
      @Meela-lg1pi 5 лет назад +60

      Well you’d probably only go if you actually had the money I think

    • @djphroop
      @djphroop 5 лет назад +23

      I see that's a shame but hey life ain't fair.

    • @alexh3974
      @alexh3974 5 лет назад +85

      As Nevile and others show. They can win or use wands owned by others, gifted or won in conquest.
      Plus hogwarts hands Tom Riddle a fund to purchase his needed items. They are not always ernough for new but ernough for the basics you require.
      There not as powerful, atuned or successful but they work. It's like a off the peg suit will still look ok but never match one tailored to you in the case of a wand that you did not choose however.

    • @kristineschilling6917
      @kristineschilling6917 5 лет назад +104

      Hogwarts gives funds for kids to get a ward if needed.... they would have handled a muggle born orphans costs. Wands likely have a standard cost. ... but wait. If Hogwarts has funding, why didnt they help Ron replace his wand when it was obviously broken and his family was poor?

    • @alfredocruz123426
      @alfredocruz123426 4 года назад +29

      Kristine Schilling exactly. Ron definitely had a second hand wand and on top of it the whomping willow broke it 😂😂😂

  • @ChaucerWife
    @ChaucerWife 5 лет назад +1230

    I actually had a thought about this recently. Fawkes and phoenixes, in general, are meant to be symbols of healing and rebirth, not necessarily the concept of 'good', and when you think of the fact that the wand chooses the wizard, you can see why two wands with phoenix core would choose two abused little boys. Both abused, both raised in the muggle world, and both given the chance to be reborn into the wizarding one.
    More often than not, we hear of wands who are exactly like their owners, but there are also references to wands that choose someone with complementary characteristics instead of matching ones. A child who needs to find peace and healing finding a wand of that nature does not necessarily have that characteristic to begin with, only the knowledge that its something they need.
    It's probably JKs way of making the boy's even in opportunity (even though I strongly disagree that their situations were equitable), but my argument stands. Children are innocent, and when one is in need of healing a phoenix will not discriminate.

    • @Aufeii
      @Aufeii 5 лет назад +71

      This makes a lot of sense. I think more it would be because of the loyalty characteristic of the wand however as that's what's emphasized and special about a phoenix feather core. The children needed stability and something that would never abandon them

    • @carahelena5697
      @carahelena5697 5 лет назад +26

      This needs more attention

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 5 лет назад +4

      You strongly disagree that their situations are equitable yet you do that in your post.

    • @cassandramuller7337
      @cassandramuller7337 5 лет назад +30

      @@fightingmedialounge519 I think you misunderstood in which aspect the original post compares Voldemort and Harry. Their situations are different, however, they are both abandoned and abused boys who have nobody in their lives who actually deeply cares for them. That is where they are comparable and that is exactly the reason the original post gives for a phoenix feather core choosing a young child.

    • @maximillian5102
      @maximillian5102 5 лет назад +4

      musicals4thesoul I can’t like more then once

  • @CottonCandySharks
    @CottonCandySharks 5 лет назад +852

    I thought the whole point was that Tom Riddle and Harry were very similar, but it was the choices they made that made them different (both abused as children, could be in Slytherin, have great potential for either good or evil). So the feather is just another bond between them, and a way to show that Voldemort is Harry's literary shadow.

    • @swzslm1741
      @swzslm1741 5 лет назад +25

      Cotton Candy Sharks The big difference is that Voldemort was born without the ability to feel love right?

    • @CottonCandySharks
      @CottonCandySharks 5 лет назад +24

      @@swzslm1741 that might be true, but feels like a cop out in the complexity department if he was literally born evil, and the difference between him and Harry isn't their choices, but just whether you were born evil/unable to love or not.

    • @OhKaeThen
      @OhKaeThen 5 лет назад +25

      That sounds similar to the sociopath nature vs nurture argument. Just because someone is born a sociopath (incapable of feeling empathy) doesn’t mean they’ll be a serial killer. Or just because someone is abused doesn’t mean that they’ll go on to abuse someone else. But if a sociopath is abused, then it’s often a recipe for a potential serial killer. Regardless, everyone still has a choice.

    • @FISHYFILMPRODUCTIONS
      @FISHYFILMPRODUCTIONS 4 года назад +10

      @@OhKaeThen Exactly, there are far more sociopaths around than people realize. In fact, we probably know a few.

    • @heartsmyfaceforever8140
      @heartsmyfaceforever8140 4 года назад +9

      Kae P sociopaths are made psychopaths are born

  • @mmoney416
    @mmoney416 5 лет назад +735

    Best Theory: Fawkes chose people who died and reborn. Voldemort, Harry, and Creedence all died and were reborn. Phoenixes are rebirthed also

    • @AnnaEmilka
      @AnnaEmilka 5 лет назад +49

      I don't think young Tom died before getting his wand

    • @WeirdAl45231
      @WeirdAl45231 5 лет назад +34

      AnnaEmilka
      Maybe Phoenix feathers can see the future

    • @cryptidliam8452
      @cryptidliam8452 5 лет назад +10

      Jon Maderos wouldn’t that of been mentioned?

    • @AnnaEmilka
      @AnnaEmilka 5 лет назад +15

      @@cryptidliam8452 *wouldn't have, not wouldn't of. Please don't perpetuate that terrible mistake

    • @ava8340
      @ava8340 5 лет назад +1

      M Money ooo yeeeaa

  • @dhv2852
    @dhv2852 2 года назад +30

    Both Harry and Tom represent death and rebirth, Voldemort reviving in book 4, and Potter at the end of book 7. It isn't about the alignment of good or bad, but how they were similar to a phoenix.

  • @zapking8209
    @zapking8209 5 лет назад +677

    Please, J, call him Mr Bob. It’s his only wish in life and I think it’s fair that he gets what he wants

  • @mythandmayhem1134
    @mythandmayhem1134 5 лет назад +872

    So I always assumed Tom wasn’t destined to be evil. As he had the potential for great evil, so did he have the potential for great good. We see this with Harry. That’s why the cores chose them. Tom could have been good. Instead, he chose evil.
    Also, J, be nice to Mr. Bob.

    • @elizabethforbes8289
      @elizabethforbes8289 5 лет назад +31

      In many fantasy stories I've read children that were conceived under the effects of a love spell/potion can never truly experience love. Even though Rowling never confirmed this thats always the idea I was operating under.

    • @mythandmayhem1134
      @mythandmayhem1134 5 лет назад +35

      True, but an inability to experience love doesn’t mean you can’t still be good or at the very least do good.

    • @SwordInc.
      @SwordInc. 5 лет назад +27

      Please read the books.....The books say because he was conceived while his father was under the influence of a love potion, he was not capable of feeling or knowing love. So he really had no choice at all.

    • @UnfamiliarIntimacy
      @UnfamiliarIntimacy 5 лет назад +17

      Elizabeth Forbes
      Yeah. I've always assumed it was because love potions aren't really love in of itself. Its effects just makes someone really, really obsessed with you. I wonder how it must've been for Tom's dad after being basically magically drugged for years to found out he spent half his life with a woman he didn't know or care about. Pfft, and people try and make her out to be the victim.

    • @Ally_Sammons
      @Ally_Sammons 5 лет назад +21

      @@SwordInc. But like they said, that doesn't effect him choosing whether to be evil or not. Love typically represents good, yes, but that doesn't mean that someone who can't love is going to be evil and there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Love isn't the only good thing out there.

  • @bobdole4916
    @bobdole4916 5 лет назад +654

    A more direct explanation might be that Dumbledore and Voldemort (and Harry) could all be related through the Peverell family. We know for certain that Harry is related to the brother who had the cloak (hence, why his family has it) and we know for certain that Voldemort is related to the brother who had the stone (Marvolo says so when he's waving the ring in the ministry wizard's face).
    Wouldn't it make sense that Dumbledore is also related to a Peverell brother - which is why he was able to defeat Grindelwald when it was Grindelwald who had the Elder Wand?
    I think that's why their three lives are so intertwined - because they're all the current descendants of the three Peverell brothers.
    When Dumbledore's family tries to escape their scandal, they move to Godric's Hollow. Wouldn't it make sense that they chose that particular place because that's where a part of their family comes from?
    I think the Deathly Hallows ended up with who they ended up with because of that familial tie.

    • @shigeminotoge4514
      @shigeminotoge4514 5 лет назад +28

      This needs more likes

    • @ankitdas6620
      @ankitdas6620 5 лет назад +62

      Harry and Voldemort were definitely related to the Peverell family. But I dont think Dumbledore was. The Peverell with the Elder wand had his throat sliced so was he able to produce children before that?? And isnt Voldemort, Snape and Harry supposed to be the Three Peverells. and Dumbledore is the Death above them all.

    • @ntpn1
      @ntpn1 5 лет назад +31

      That would sort of tie the story nicely, as in the original Hallows story, the invisible cape brother survives and lives a long life, while the other two die early/miserably. Voldemort and Dumbledore/Snape die violently + without next of kin, while Harry lives a long life and has family. Right?

    • @AsianPaulConrad
      @AsianPaulConrad 5 лет назад +58

      @@ankitdas6620 Dumbledoor was most definitely the embodiment of death, Voldemort being Antioch Peverell died because of his hunger for power, Snape as Cadmus Peverell eventually died and finally be with the love oh his life in the afterworld, and Harry meeting death(dumbledoor) like an old friend when he was ready to die just like Ignotus Peverell did.

    • @aliciaaaa2154
      @aliciaaaa2154 4 года назад +3

      Daaaang, yes! This makes so much sense

  • @CodyMcKenzieInTheEndAllWasWell
    @CodyMcKenzieInTheEndAllWasWell 4 года назад +75

    I honestly think that Creedence is the embodiment not of Dumbledore’s Obscurus but of his deceased sister’s surviving Obscurus. That would make sense how he’s a Dumbledore.

    • @Georgiana216
      @Georgiana216 3 года назад +14

      Or maybe, you know, Abeforth fooled around when he was younger and ta da. Lots of people seem to forget Abeforth is a Dumbledore too

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      @R54IFUH 2 года назад +8

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    @millygoose3131 5 лет назад +271

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  • @IGStevenWHY
    @IGStevenWHY 5 лет назад +276

    I always thought the dual wand cores was the wand wasn't actually choosing harry but recognizing Voldemort's Horcrux within harry.

    • @beelyord
      @beelyord 4 года назад +1

      IGSteven i always assumed that too

    • @davidburris2420
      @davidburris2420 4 года назад +3

      So, does that mean that Fawkes is just evil? That he always aligned with the dark side but was just consigned to listen to Albus because he was a Dumbledore?

    • @ashyh6202
      @ashyh6202 4 года назад +8

      @@davidburris2420 Fawkes seems to follow great leaders or Wizards with potential above the norm. I think voldermort as a child had a lot of potential but he chose the evil path.

  • @durian830317
    @durian830317 5 лет назад +425

    J.K Rowling: OMG too many plot holes no way anyone can fix them all.
    SCB: Hold my Mr. Bob

    • @SSC0002
      @SSC0002 5 лет назад +12

      "Hold him bc I threw him away"

    • @mythandmayhem1134
      @mythandmayhem1134 5 лет назад +2

      cheng lin
      This is the best thing you could have said.

    • @Somerandomperson-hl1kt
      @Somerandomperson-hl1kt 5 лет назад

      This is so hilarious. Good one XD (Mr. Bob is sad.)

  • @daviddiaz2973
    @daviddiaz2973 5 лет назад +111

    "I remember every wand I've ever sold, Mr. Potter. Every single wand. It
    so happens that the phoenix whose tail feather is in your wand, gave
    another feather -- just one other. It is very curious indeed that you
    should be destined for this wand when its brother why, its brother gave
    you that scar."
    Well, Olivander calls the wands "brothers", so...

    • @Nerdnotwashere
      @Nerdnotwashere 3 года назад +4

      Yes! He didn’t say twin he said brother!
      (Yes I am aware just how much of this is splitting hairs as twins are very much still brothers. I am 100% on board with this theory since I am 100% certain that Ollivender would have used twin if they were donated at the same time).

    • @johnt.inscrutable1545
      @johnt.inscrutable1545 5 месяцев назад

      @@NerdnotwashereThey can’t be brothers if they are girls.

  • @GeorgiaYM216
    @GeorgiaYM216 5 лет назад +180

    "Is Fawkes the same Fawkes he was after regenerating" My first thought "I am Groot"

    • @stephaniehight2771
      @stephaniehight2771 5 лет назад +13

      Yes, he is the same Fawkes. The soul of the bird is the same, and by being reborn of its own ashes, it is the same substance molecularly that comprised the previous Fawkes.

    • @Thunderbolt5827
      @Thunderbolt5827 5 лет назад +5

      Stephanie Hight unlike Groot, who becomes a dancer.

    • @demented9131
      @demented9131 5 лет назад +1

      vsauce music starts in the background

    • @beccag2758
      @beccag2758 5 лет назад +1

      Wait... Baby/Teenage Groot is like the equivalent to a clone right? Same biological code but different life experiences?

    • @GeorgiaYM216
      @GeorgiaYM216 5 лет назад

      @@beccag2758 one of the interviews I saw with the directors said baby Groot was the equivalent of big Groot son not clone. That that was how they reproduced.

  • @treed3116
    @treed3116 5 лет назад +223

    I think JK Rowling recognized that it would be ridiculous for Harry to win multiple duels against the 2nd greatest wizard ever so she threw this in to make him seem lucky and keep his self confidence low until he learned more about truly finishing Voldemort

    • @pharaohkai1
      @pharaohkai1 5 лет назад +7

      Treed makes sense

    • @Rín-wín
      @Rín-wín 5 лет назад +4

      This is much more likely than J's theory

    • @aureliaharrison5345
      @aureliaharrison5345 5 лет назад +4

      It would still tie it back to his identity and the importance of his choices (a Gryffindor). Love it!

    • @limiv5272
      @limiv5272 5 лет назад +14

      Of course that's why the story was written this way, but she'd also need an in-universe explanation, which is what the video tries to explain

    • @xanderfloyd2656
      @xanderfloyd2656 5 лет назад +2

      Treed if you interpret “being flung across the room at the same time” and “barely escaping with his life” as “winning”, then yes, that’s probably why it was written that way.

  • @MsRizy
    @MsRizy 4 года назад +397

    Can we just talk about how Harry's wand was made at the same time as Tom Riddles and wasnt purchased for 50 years.

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 4 года назад +31

      Did u finish the video before u commented? He mentioned that it is very much possible that the wands were *not* made at the same time. We usually assume that’s the case, but it’s not necessarily so

    • @MsRizy
      @MsRizy 4 года назад +26

      @@MerkhVision Yes he said "...could have been donated at different times." The possibility that Harry's wand was sitting there for 50 years is why I commented.

    • @MsRizy
      @MsRizy 4 года назад +32

      @@MerkhVision Also I just looked it up Harry's wand was made in 1938 the same year that Tom's was bought.

    • @lenacircinus
      @lenacircinus 4 года назад +49

      The wand choses the wizard. The wand didn't choose anyone for 50 years bc it was always meant to be Harry's

    • @Porkens92
      @Porkens92 4 года назад +2

      Rizy May I ask where you looked it up at? Because I just looked it up too and all I found was “pre 1991”

  • @jasonsandersfan4642
    @jasonsandersfan4642 5 лет назад +724

    What if the reason Fawkes’ feather chose Voldemort was so that it could protect Harry later on?

    • @jarretrausch
      @jarretrausch 5 лет назад +67

      Awethan EX12 that’s my opinion too... and it’s probably the right one! My guess is that Fawkes knew that giving a feather to Voldemort and Harry would not only just save Harry, but also be the only way Voldemort could be defeated.

    • @critical_failure
      @critical_failure 5 лет назад +46

      That's a really good point. I mean - CLEARLY Fawkes knows a LOT more than he lets on, like when he knew to follow Harry into the Chamber. I mean - we don't know for 100% certain Dumbledore did that, so Fawkes could have future abilities. Plus, Phoenixes are associated with flames, and Pyromancy comes from Pyro (Fire) and Mancy (Divination), which literally means The Divination of Fire, and since Divination is the art of reading the future, it's entirely possible that Fawkes was able to predict the future, because Phoenixes are so deeply linked to fire.
      ...Or maybe I'm just overthinking it.

    • @filam7371
      @filam7371 5 лет назад +2

      @Gailyn Lee saved me the trouble of typing a long explanation 😂

    • @HunterStiles651
      @HunterStiles651 5 лет назад +4

      @@critical_failure Press X to doubt on that one. Pyromancy has meant not just fire divination but fire-based magic in general for at least a good few decades at this point, probably even longer than JK Rowling has been alive and while it's certainly not implausible that she knew the word's original meaning before writing Harry Potter you shouldn't go around putting words in her mouth.

    • @matthewscott3689
      @matthewscott3689 5 лет назад +7

      Or, Dumbledore intentionally gave those two feathers as per some kind of grand plan? Like he was able to see the future... time turner? And engineer just the right set of events to lead to the outcome he wanted?

  • @jasonsparks8508
    @jasonsparks8508 5 лет назад +407

    you forgot the symbolism of the wand wood in the two Tom's being a Yew wand "Death" while Harry's is Holly "life"

    • @Scipio-Africannabis
      @Scipio-Africannabis 5 лет назад +11

      If this has etymologcal basis then this is awesome.

    • @naloriel9
      @naloriel9 5 лет назад +14

      I was waiting for him to mention this in the video, i can't believe he didn't think about that!

    • @danielpriest1142
      @danielpriest1142 5 лет назад +5

      Well the sawdust from yew when it is milled and worked with is highly toxic.

    • @AmyraCarter
      @AmyraCarter 4 года назад +12

      The elemental affinities of Yew and Holly are both Wind, actually.

    • @theamericanyoutuber
      @theamericanyoutuber 3 года назад +8

      @@AmyraCarter And I’ll be the one to go out on a limb here (maybe); they both fly. Harry on a broom, Voldy by... weird edginess. ALSO! When Harry and Voldy kinda... meld together in the last book/movie while *flying,* that could also symbolize the fact that you can’t have life without death and vice versa.

  • @glittery_cucumber
    @glittery_cucumber 5 лет назад +489

    I think it just shows that Voldemort also had the potential to become a good wizard. The books are very much about the choices we make to become who we are, instead of people being inherently evil.

    • @stanbeyani5089
      @stanbeyani5089 5 лет назад +14

      Voldemort was inherently evil from the word go. Wasn't even about choices..

    • @irachapman5824
      @irachapman5824 5 лет назад +16

      Voldemort, at the time of receiving his wand has already demonstrated the qualities that would define him as an adult, not to mention fully matured wizard. I believe Tom has already made up boss mind about the kind of person he wanted to be. Gaining access to magic allowed him to justify his beliefs and actions in his own twisted way.

    • @SwordInc.
      @SwordInc. 5 лет назад +14

      The books say because he was conceived while his father was under the influence of a love potion, he was not capable of feeling or knowing love. So he really had no choice at all.

    • @cookiediangelo8511
      @cookiediangelo8511 5 лет назад +10

      Oh, I'm a sociopath who cant feel love.
      So I will be mean to people, but I will NOT start a cult of muggle hating murderers and split my seal. I cant feel love, but at least I have commen sence

    • @UnfamiliarIntimacy
      @UnfamiliarIntimacy 5 лет назад +13

      Stan Beyani
      I want to tell myself you're wrong but it's hard to argue with how evil Tom is. It's not even the things he's done, it's that he's such a unrealistic, immature type of evil. I think that's actually one of the things I most dislike about the franchise. Tom is so one dimensional. I feel like Rowling, as good of a writer as she is, did not give Tom enough time to grow. She didn't explore why he had the beliefs he did or why he felt so self righteous about wizard supremacy. It's like she didn't know how to balance out Tom from Voldemort. Honestly, Voldemort was at his most terrifying when he wasn't present imo. Because people not calling him by his actual name sort of transformed him into this superstition of sorts. A literal dead man walking.

  • @themeharandkirpashow9835
    @themeharandkirpashow9835 3 года назад +32

    Can we just appreciate that the 2 most powerful dark wizards (Grindelwald and Voldemort) were both afraid of Albus Dumbledore and saw him as a threat?!?!

  • @mkebza83
    @mkebza83 5 лет назад +284

    I am from the Department Against Mistreatment of Magical Creatures! I am here on the behalf of Mr. Bob and I am here to inform you that a formal investigation against J. Carlin has been opened.

    • @Somerandomperson-hl1kt
      @Somerandomperson-hl1kt 5 лет назад +13

      mkebza83 tell me how it’ll go will ya? #JusticeforMrBob

    • @lloydakita6532
      @lloydakita6532 4 года назад +5

      J. Carlin you better have a good Sam lawyer

    • @kayleyuta7072
      @kayleyuta7072 3 года назад +5

      🤣🤣 Mythical stuffed creature cruelty.

    • @Bxll_Bxll
      @Bxll_Bxll 3 года назад +8

      You violated the statute of secrecy sir.

    • @ritaawuah1669
      @ritaawuah1669 3 года назад +5

      @@Bxll_Bxll I am here from the Obliviaater. Squad. Obliviate the muggles who saw the incedent

  • @katoteshikumei
    @katoteshikumei 5 лет назад +485

    Theory: Fawkes' feather DIDN'T choose Harry, but the part of Tom that was trapped in him.

    • @fabrisseterbrugghe8567
      @fabrisseterbrugghe8567 5 лет назад +7

      I like it.

    • @athenamorales7321
      @athenamorales7321 5 лет назад +4

      Quite possible

    • @silverkyre
      @silverkyre 5 лет назад +29

      I always assumed this personally

    • @sarahriddle7211
      @sarahriddle7211 5 лет назад +1

      I love this that's amazing

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 5 лет назад +16

      @@silverkyre
      I remember when I first found out that Harry had a part of Voldemort in him the entire time, I thought about the parselmouth, the twin cores, and maybe even the raw power.

  • @cgphotoandfilm
    @cgphotoandfilm 5 лет назад +1303

    Why do you abuse Mr. Bob. So rude.
    *I trusted you J.*

    • @narwhalking8878
      @narwhalking8878 5 лет назад +64

      #StopTheBobAbuse

    • @solfeggietto8306
      @solfeggietto8306 5 лет назад +17

      Slytherins be Slytherin. (not an anti-housist, but had to do it)

    • @lahlybird895
      @lahlybird895 5 лет назад +3

      What did he do?

    • @sersastark
      @sersastark 5 лет назад +23

      @@lahlybird895 he kept tossing Bob and not respecting his chosen pronoun, Mr. Bob.

    • @rehf10
      @rehf10 5 лет назад +2

      Hagger was a Death Eater

  • @ggracelii
    @ggracelii 5 лет назад +20

    I have another theory:
    So J said that the phoenix represents rebirth. And Ollivander said that Voldemort did great things (terrible, yes, but great) and implies that Harry will do great things.
    Harry and Voldemort are very special: Harry survives the Killing Curse twice (first time he was saved by love and second he sacrificed himself out of love) and Voldemort is the first wizard to create more than 1 Horcrux. Voldemort has been "rebirthed" because he underwent such a great transformation. Harry is "rebirthed" because he, well, didn't die when he was killed two times in his life.
    Also, Voldemort HAS done great things: he pushed the boundaries of magic further than anyone else had ever attempted. Obviously, Harry has also done lots of great things.
    Maybe Harry and Voldemort both perfectly represented the Phoenix and were an equal match for each other (like the prophecy said, Voldemort created his enemy).
    And why Fawkes? Clearly Dumbledore is strongly connected to both characters. He was the one to bring Tom Riddle into the Wizarding World. Dumbledore was the one who gave Harry his quest. And Fawkes is loyal to Dumbledore. Fawkes was so close to him that the feathers Fawkes gave were ~infused~ with Dumbledore-ness...
    Just another possible theory????

  • @benben9794
    @benben9794 5 лет назад +130

    I will quote Luna from book seven for this the question was which which came first the Phoenix or the flame and lunas answer a circle has no beginning

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 4 года назад +1

      Hi, magical stranger!
      I'm currently gathering people for a good Cause. Basically, sharing Links leading to bad people, so the good can report/flag the bad. Simple, right?
      (Well, its not that simple, but whatever...)
      I dont wanna seem like i try to persuade you to join some club or somethin', so i just drop some links and hope you do the right thing!
      ruclips.net/channel/UCPkzNt6_5HCsI1NEwmt1ycQabout
      -Cybermobbing.
      ruclips.net/channel/UCkfx4FiFG8HX31dDKnnVkUAabout -Slightly insulting brat.
      ruclips.net/channel/UCg1jrDwUVFVj489Wwa77cbwabout -Repeated Heavy Insults.
      ruclips.net/user/anneonthephoneabout -Extreme Insult-Rants, sometimes over 100 Words long! Really intense stuff, like „r%%% mothers“.
      ruclips.net/channel/UCtsDNGgF54yKLaV5yeCvIAgabout -EXTREME Insults, again, also about hurting mothers left and right. A Psycho.
      ruclips.net/user/DivineHyperionabout -Hey! Someone who actually got deleted! Shows that it sure can work. Hope exists.
      ruclips.net/channel/UCUWV16kTIhAesl7jxbvHfPAabout -Another one Down! Hurray, i say.
      (Note. Dont forget to include the URL, the Link to specify the target, into the report. Also: Grammar!)

    • @yoda2495
      @yoda2495 3 года назад

      Technically the pheonix

  • @bradyrogers2532
    @bradyrogers2532 5 лет назад +277

    You guys should do a RUclips Q and A live stream while playing a few games of wizards chess!

    • @DrewWutsit
      @DrewWutsit 5 лет назад +7

      Great idea. Maybe they could play a game of wizards chess after the next episode of SuperCarlinGaming

    • @suzyeide2320
      @suzyeide2320 5 лет назад

      Brady Rogers this is a good idea

    • @karenfromfinasse8430
      @karenfromfinasse8430 5 лет назад +2

      Why do wizards call it wizards chess? Wouldn't it just be chess to them?

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 5 лет назад +146

    0:11 Don't treat Mr. Bob like that, the bird is the word

    • @miracleschmidt4342
      @miracleschmidt4342 5 лет назад +4

      Weeeeeeellll EVERYBODY'S HEARD ABOUT THE BIRD

    • @sersastark
      @sersastark 5 лет назад

      SUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNN BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDD

    • @jadalynnunger5819
      @jadalynnunger5819 5 лет назад +2

      THE
      BIRD
      BIRD
      BIRD
      *THE BIRD IS THE WORD*

    • @phillippadavies2927
      @phillippadavies2927 5 лет назад

      Now I've got that song in my head, thanks :)

  • @HIR0SE
    @HIR0SE 5 лет назад +368

    The real question is: "What does the Fawkes say?"

  • @JamesLawner
    @JamesLawner 5 лет назад +157

    “Fantastic Beasts: The Dark Phoenix” 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @princejanllano1312
      @princejanllano1312 5 лет назад

      Hahahaha
      Good one
      Hahahaha

    • @princejanllano1312
      @princejanllano1312 5 лет назад

      Hahahahah mixed

    • @chendror872
      @chendror872 4 года назад +1

      Only Crimes of Grindelwald is way more enjoyable than dark Phoenix 😂😂

    • @ahmedsoliman1657
      @ahmedsoliman1657 4 года назад +2

      Me when j says that:hey isn’t that an x men movie

    • @86upsmaya
      @86upsmaya 4 года назад +2

      Should be the Third movie

  • @sarainglis5886
    @sarainglis5886 5 лет назад +61

    *Sits on phone looking for RUclips content to absorb, resorts to old SBC videos*
    30 seconds later...
    *NEW SCB VIDEO DROPS*
    Coincidence? I THINK NOT.

    • @ashwolf180
      @ashwolf180 5 лет назад +1

      Lol you said *SBC* the first time instead of SCB. Sorry, I'm a Ravenclaw, its my job ;)

    • @sarainglis5886
      @sarainglis5886 5 лет назад

      @@ashwolf180 Touche!

    • @ashwolf180
      @ashwolf180 5 лет назад

      @@sarainglis5886 What house are you?

    • @sarainglis5886
      @sarainglis5886 5 лет назад +2

      @@ashwolf180 I am a Ravenclaw, and I must admit for allowing this to take place I feel the shame of a hundred thousand glaring Revenclaws staring at me right now...

    • @ashwolf180
      @ashwolf180 5 лет назад

      @@sarainglis5886 lol its Ok, you can use the power of RUclips edit!

  • @kiel7083
    @kiel7083 5 лет назад +453

    This video :
    Jk. Rowling : ow yea.... that's a great story. **rewrites the script for fantastic beast 3**

    • @787brx8
      @787brx8 5 лет назад +4

      JK Rowling is not the writer of Harry Potter.

    • @holly2786
      @holly2786 5 лет назад +8

      @@787brx8 I'm confused... I'm pretty sure she is...

    • @787brx8
      @787brx8 5 лет назад +6

      @@holly2786 The ghostwriter's birthday is Nov. 16, 1976.
      The first HP movie, the videogame and the first Fantastic Beasts film all have the same U.S.A. release date of Nov. 16.
      Harry Potter also has BTTF references which is just another one of the many works from this ghostwriter.
      For instance both have...
      Flying cars
      Lightning
      Time manipulation
      Trains
      Brown haired boy and older mentor Etc.
      In the third book it says ( back into the future) and it also has the real author's name hidden within it.
      Back to the Future has many hidden in it as well.
      In Logan Utah: LMC, Bluebird Restaurant, Clock Tower Plaza and the Twin Pines Condos
      The movie counterparts are: DMC, Bluebird Motel, the Clock Tower and Twin Pines Mall.
      DMC and LMC were both owned by John Delorean as well.
      The yellow posters in Marty's school read Bulldogs VS Indians which refers to the North Cache Bulldogs and the Preston Indians.
      The Preston High School is used in the movie Napoleon Dynamite.
      Preston and Logan is also the last names for Bill and Ted.
      The ghostwriter is now retired from writing but still does other projects that could change the world on the side.

    • @flugsven
      @flugsven 5 лет назад +5

      @@787brx8 No, "the ghostwriter" (🤣) is plotting on the next Cormoran Strike & Robin Ellacott crime novel , I would assume. There you "hear" Rowlings own voice, again. You'll recognise it from the Potter books Forget "Cursed Beasts" and read her alias Robert Galbraith instead.

    • @flugsven
      @flugsven 5 лет назад +5

      @@holly2786 probably a Flat Earth'er...

  • @pld006
    @pld006 4 года назад +40

    We should start SPMW
    Society for the Promotion of Mr.Bob Welfare

  • @sbp3ster
    @sbp3ster 5 лет назад +133

    I always just imagined Fawkes laying two feathers in front of Dumbledore and Olivander. As the Phoenix magestically takes flight, bird poop falls directly onto one feather. "I guess that one is going to the dark Lord"

    • @allaboutalice8543
      @allaboutalice8543 5 лет назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @perun3706
      @perun3706 5 лет назад

      Nice

    • @skylovermc2146
      @skylovermc2146 4 года назад

      sbp3ster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @hussainvirk8598
      @hussainvirk8598 4 года назад

      Good one

  • @acemstudio
    @acemstudio 5 лет назад +50

    "Who knows maybe third times a charm."
    Ouch.

  • @TheUnihorn
    @TheUnihorn 5 лет назад +172

    Hands up for Mr. Bob to become a recurring character 🙌🏽🙌🏽

    • @catfish1616
      @catfish1616 5 лет назад +4

      🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

    • @schrutebuck
      @schrutebuck 5 лет назад +4

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    • @alittlebithailey5994
      @alittlebithailey5994 5 лет назад +3

      ✋🏻🤚🏻🖐🏻🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙋🏻‍♀️🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

    • @cleooooooooo
      @cleooooooooo 5 лет назад +2

      Daniel Smith 🙌🙌🙌🙌

    • @ashburch4779
      @ashburch4779 5 лет назад +2

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  • @prinny456
    @prinny456 4 года назад +9

    Dumbledore’s patronus is a Phoenix. He taught both of them, he played a part in the raising of both of them - a sort’ve parent to two orphans - it makes perfect sense they both have Phoenix feathers in their wands.

  • @brianlampert5797
    @brianlampert5797 5 лет назад +67

    Why would dumbledore have ever given Olivander two feathers for wands in the first place?

    • @srccde
      @srccde 5 лет назад +39

      Maybe Ollivander knew Dumbledore had a pet phoenix and asked him whether he was willing to give some feathers because they're so rare.

    • @tvgubber
      @tvgubber 5 лет назад +15

      Yea or maybe 2 fell off at some point (whether during a fight or regeneration) and Dumbledore gave them to olivander because they are rare cores and he already won the elder wand. He could have been experimenting to see how powerful the wands from them would be.

    • @nestormorberg1211
      @nestormorberg1211 5 лет назад +7

      Maybe Dumbledore contacted Olivander to have him make a phoenix feather wand for Credence, one that was powerful enough to destroy the blood pact. But knowing the power and danger of making a wand more powerful than most others, from being obsessed with the elder wand together with Grindelwald in his youth, Dumbledore asked Olivander to make a second wand that would equal the power of the first one.
      That would mean that Dumbledore unknowingly enabled the crimes of Voldemort in the future by providing Credence with a powerful wand so that they could stop the crimes of Grindelwald. This would have made an even greater burden of guilt on Dumbledore for the rise of Voldemort, but it would also mean that he knew about the potential of the second wand to eventually defeat Voldemort all along. Dumbledore might have been waiting many years for the second wand to choose its master. When it finally choose Harry, the boy who survived Voldemort’s killing curse, there was hope that his plan to make a second rivallary wand to safeguard against the first one might work.

    • @tvgubber
      @tvgubber 5 лет назад +3

      Yea I was thinking along those lines too, the needing a power balance part. (Esp. if he has the elder wand and was worried about temptation)
      But that's just a Theory!.... A film Theory... oh wrong channel lol

    • @matthewcooper4248
      @matthewcooper4248 5 лет назад +2

      @@nestormorberg1211 *starts reading comment* Ehhh idk this sounds kinda far fetched,
      *finishes comment* "... Okay I'm on board."

  • @wyrdboi652
    @wyrdboi652 5 лет назад +86

    Please respect individualism and do not deny Mr. Bob of his rightful title

  • @eejit3658
    @eejit3658 5 лет назад +92

    J:is mean to Mr.Bob
    The entire community: *look how they massacred my boy*

    • @mythandmayhem1134
      @mythandmayhem1134 5 лет назад +5

      Olan McDonnell
      We adore and support our phoenix.

  • @LydiaTarine12
    @LydiaTarine12 3 года назад +10

    Can we keep in mind that Dumbledore himself wasn't always necessarily aligned with good? After all, he and Grindlewald (Grinedelwald?) once worked toward the same goals then parted ways.

  • @celticwolff5429
    @celticwolff5429 5 лет назад +14

    One night the studio will burn down and there will be a note outside "All I wanted was to be called Mr. Bob."

  • @ZaynaEdits
    @ZaynaEdits 5 лет назад +51

    “His name is Robert. I call him Bob.”
    AMAZING

  • @gamer9smith
    @gamer9smith 5 лет назад +21

    0:13
    When you just have to say that you’re fine but your not actually fine

  • @consciousnessfreedomdiscip8585
    @consciousnessfreedomdiscip8585 5 лет назад +11

    A Phoenix giving two feathers might symbolise it’s comtribution to a great balance between the power of opposites . The Phoenix represents both opposites creation and destruction. Two feathers symbolise that the nature of the Phoenix is tied to the ultimate fate of balance between good and evil . Harry and voldy getting their respective wands was appropriate . The pheonix wand given to voldy was appropriate as he truly could perform a large range of magic , the wand found an appropriate master . Harry was meant to have the other wand as he was meant to destroy Voldemort and Priori incantatum would be part of the destiny of chosen one ,or else harry would be dead and goblet of fire would be the last movie . Both the twin Wands were loyal to voldy and harry but their true loyalty was to balance between opposites the legacy of the Phoenix . The twin Wands worked together to prevent Voldemort from destroying his horcrux harry and they both worked to help Harry survive Voldemort . Harry’s wand was loyal to him and voldy wand was loyal to him , but above this they were loyal to balance between good and evil . One of the feathers contributed to Voldemort’s power , Voldemort’s creation but also to the creation of his horcrux harry . The other wand also contributed to the creation of harry in the context it brought up the boy who lived and played a crucial role in his life which was essential to destroy Voldemort .
    Conclusion of the effect of the twin Wands
    1) creating Voldemort
    2)creating horcrux harry
    3) protecting Voldemort from destroying his own horcrux
    4) creating the chosen one
    5) protecting the chosen one
    6) destroying Voldemort
    It appears each of their wand was loyal to them but by doing so loyal to their true and higher cause : the legacy of balance of opposites , the legacy of the pheonix

  • @MatiasQuintanaV
    @MatiasQuintanaV 5 лет назад +73

    I feel like from their perspective they just chose Voldemort twice.

  • @daltongalvin9189
    @daltongalvin9189 5 лет назад +29

    I have a question. How did Lucious get away with attempting the killing curse, on a student, in the middle of hogwarts, right outside Dumbledore's office

    • @srccde
      @srccde 5 лет назад +4

      Because he didn't successfully cast it and probably neither Harry, nor Dobby knew what the spell was that Lucius tried to cast.

    • @melgibsonero
      @melgibsonero 5 лет назад +6

      That one time Lucious almost did something, but in the end he never accomplished anything in any of the books, movies or extended universe

    • @fnw100
      @fnw100 5 лет назад +6

      That was a pure movie move

    • @dianagolac6079
      @dianagolac6079 5 лет назад

      Actually he wasn't saying the killing curse then

    • @daltongalvin9189
      @daltongalvin9189 5 лет назад

      @@dianagolac6079 I didn't think so at first either. But the more I watched that scene Lucious is clearly mouthing "avada....." right before dobbys "force push"

  • @swedishfish2555
    @swedishfish2555 5 лет назад +155

    I think it is interesting that both people the Phoenix feathers cores both chose people who came back from the dead. Voldemort through his horcruxes and Harry through the Deathly Hallows.

    • @francargeric1
      @francargeric1 5 лет назад +6

      didn't harry came back due to Horcruxes too? I mean the fact that he willingly allowed himself to be killed by Voldemort, so he instead killed the horcrux inside him.

    • @swedishfish2555
      @swedishfish2555 5 лет назад +3

      francargeric1 no Harry came back because of the deathly hallows, which gave the possessor of all 3 mastery over death, and thus the power to come back after dying. He did die to get rid of Voldemort’s horcrux within himself, but he did not have any horcruxes.

    • @francargeric1
      @francargeric1 5 лет назад +3

      @@swedishfish2555 he was part horcrux, and Voldemort just detroyed it, or am I missing something?

    • @swedishfish2555
      @swedishfish2555 5 лет назад +2

      francargeric1 yes, he was a corcrux, but that isn’t why came back

    • @itsme-pu8bf
      @itsme-pu8bf 5 лет назад

      Good point man. I never realized that

  • @Lewa1110
    @Lewa1110 4 года назад +6

    Theres a difference between replacing parts of an axe and a Phoenix being reborn, because with a phoenix it's being remade from its own ashes, and with the axe, your replacing all the parts with pieces that werent originally a part of it.

  • @raeskoczen3193
    @raeskoczen3193 5 лет назад +42

    Please do a theory on the black umbrella flying around during the quidditch match in prisoner of Azkaban

    • @sabrinanicole22
      @sabrinanicole22 5 лет назад +4

      I'm curious as to what you think is behind it?

    • @nathalie6825
      @nathalie6825 5 лет назад

      Was that in the books?

    • @raeskoczen3193
      @raeskoczen3193 5 лет назад

      @@nathalie6825 no I don't think so

    • @clairem391
      @clairem391 5 лет назад +3

      I got a theory for you: some kid opened it inside (which is supposed to be bad luck) and was unlucky to lose it
      I’m not superstitious lol

  • @pepperplz783
    @pepperplz783 5 лет назад +55

    You need captions on your videos!!! Can you please make it an option for the community to add them? I’d love to contribute.

    • @aureliaharrison5345
      @aureliaharrison5345 5 лет назад +1

      I second!

    • @courtneywarren3698
      @courtneywarren3698 5 лет назад

      +

    • @mickb.8925
      @mickb.8925 5 лет назад +1

      You can now! :D

    • @pepperplz783
      @pepperplz783 5 лет назад

      Really? It’s not showing up as an option for me. Where are you seeing it?

    • @mickb.8925
      @mickb.8925 5 лет назад

      @@pepperplz783 I saw it on my laptop but now I'm on my phone and can't see it either so that maybe it?

  • @chickenparam
    @chickenparam 5 лет назад +28

    I read the title as "Why did Fawkes's Father Choose Voldemort" and I was genuinely confused

    • @UnfamiliarIntimacy
      @UnfamiliarIntimacy 5 лет назад +2

      Param Patil
      Take some comfort in knowing you weren't the only one.

  • @panda4247
    @panda4247 4 года назад +1

    3:50 "Dumbledore knows that Fawkes gave the feather to Tom's wand => he owned Fawkes at that time" the implication does not stand. he might have learned that the feather is from that particular bird, thrack it down, and then buy it from the previous owner (or tame it, or whatever). He is certainly capable of acquiring objects he deems necessary or interesting.
    Also, using the Occam's razor, I completely agree with what Mary Vallas said somewhere in this comment section

  • @unwillingunicorn1385
    @unwillingunicorn1385 5 лет назад +39

    As a good friend of Mr. Bob he has confided in me. Based on what he has told me about J I would like to propose we change the SCB acronym to mean Super Carlin, Ben

  • @kevinsmith7244
    @kevinsmith7244 5 лет назад +9

    I’m loving all the Harry Potter content! It’s the reason I subscribed so long ago!!!

  • @frostmoon4575
    @frostmoon4575 5 лет назад +38

    J, please stop bullying Mr. Bob. He has done nothing wrong. Mr. Bob probably trusted you when you got him. Stop breaking Mr. Bob's trust.
    #StopMrBobAbuse

  • @Ernoskij
    @Ernoskij 4 года назад +5

    One thing that has me asking a lot more questions is
    "how did Voldemort get his old wand back?"
    He clearly states to his death eaters "I was less than a spirit" and we know that he was unable to actually hold a wand without his body, he also states this.
    We know that he went to the Potter's household alone that night, because if he had been with some death eaters, they would have been able to perform the spell needed to restore him, and wouldn't have needed to "seek him out" as he states in the graveyard.
    We also know that the order of the phoenix gets to the potter household relatively fast afterwards, as Hagrid states he pulled Harry from the rubble himself.
    That means that Voldemort's wand must have been in the rubble at the time the order of the phoenix came to inspect, and assuming the killing curse didn't obliterate Voldemort's body (which would either have destroyed the items he was wearing/carrying, or left them all in the rubble still), the wand should be there, and I'm sure the Auroras and/or the order of the phoenix would have searched the place pretty thoroughly, not least to extract the bodies of the potters, they should have found it.
    Considering they didn't find the wand, and it would be a death eater who went and searched later, that would mean it had to be Peter who went and searched, and found the wand, then holding on to the wand of his Master without using it, and without expecting Voldemort to be alive.
    So how does Voldemort get his own wand back?

    • @helenamirian908
      @helenamirian908 4 года назад

      Right! And where did Peter keep it, the whole time he was a rat living with the Weasleys? Safe deposit box at Gringott's? What about his own wand when he turned into a rat and ran away? Did he Pizza Rat it down into the sewer with him?

  • @jscott3364
    @jscott3364 5 лет назад +108

    What if Fawkes belonged to Arianna, after she died it fled and later came back to be reunited with her obscurus (Credence)

    • @tiffanypersaud3518
      @tiffanypersaud3518 5 лет назад +4

      Lost Boy, that makes sense!

    • @jscott3364
      @jscott3364 5 лет назад +2

      Ariana Swan Maybe he’ll adopt it after he defeats Credence. The final memory and heirloom to his sister

  • @ninjadoublestar2981
    @ninjadoublestar2981 5 лет назад +39

    Please do an updated version of grislyeagleshark vs girrafalant

  • @bnb_2592
    @bnb_2592 5 лет назад +9

    Great video J and Ben! Hope you have an awesome day!

  • @Lunariant
    @Lunariant 4 года назад +2

    1:50 The Fear of the Twin Cores and How to Overcome Them, movie coming 2029

  • @tuckern.3534
    @tuckern.3534 5 лет назад +65

    Maybe it’s because Harry and Voldemort both can back from the dead like a phoenix

    • @glennswint341
      @glennswint341 5 лет назад +4

      It would seem we are the only two that had this thought...

    • @Rín-wín
      @Rín-wín 5 лет назад +1

      Brilliant

    • @sohainhere
      @sohainhere 5 лет назад +3

      Yes!! and their connection to death even surpasses that... they both have the legacy of deathly hallows.

    • @karinakunde7772
      @karinakunde7772 5 лет назад +1

      Maybe Dumbledore tried to give on his legacy with the hallows and everything. Voldemort and Harry are both decendants of the Pevrell Brothers. Maybe that's why Dumbledore went to Riddle himself because of that connection. And the phoenix is a conquerer of death

    • @moses9647
      @moses9647 5 лет назад +1

      but Voldemort didn't come back from the dead by age 11 when we got the wand...

  • @thedragonwarrior5861
    @thedragonwarrior5861 5 лет назад +28

    Will we see the Ice bird in the 3rd Fantastic Beasts movie/book? I mean, we saw his brethren(the Thunder bird and the Phoenix) in the 1st 2.

    • @jzb7394
      @jzb7394 5 лет назад +6

      Yes, we saw Zapdos and Moltres, but what about Articuno?

  • @Sophie-vb1hk
    @Sophie-vb1hk 5 лет назад +14

    Mind-blowingly excellent theory, but I feel sorry for Mr. Bob.

  • @conlon4332
    @conlon4332 4 года назад +2

    2:49 HR? Human Resources? Not PR - Phoenix Resources? That might be confusing. BR - Bird Resources? MCR - Magical Creature Resources? I don't know, but it's sure not human.

  • @thatonecat11
    @thatonecat11 5 лет назад +13

    The funny thing is that I also have a phoenix plushie named Bob.

    • @theincompleterealm1582
      @theincompleterealm1582 5 лет назад

      Rainbow Alicorn are sure it doesn’t want to be Mr.Bob

    • @thatonecat11
      @thatonecat11 5 лет назад +2

      @@theincompleterealm1582 After this video, he really wants to be.

    • @theincompleterealm1582
      @theincompleterealm1582 5 лет назад

      Rainbow Alicorn don’t abuse him, let him live a better life than Mr.Bob here.

  • @rocksnrolls
    @rocksnrolls 5 лет назад +4

    HAHAHAHA. I loved that jab at the Dark Phoenix saga.

  • @amaccoy
    @amaccoy 5 лет назад +4

    6:00 J: "Whew! That's a lot to do!
    Me: Don't worry, he can handle it. It's Dumbledore, he'll just hand those tasks off to other people.

  • @Yugiohfans11
    @Yugiohfans11 5 лет назад +6

    There's more to a wand's "choosing" then the core the wood also plays a part what's more keep in mind that wands tend to figuratively grow along with the witch or wizard they chose.

  • @dragonweyr44
    @dragonweyr44 5 лет назад +16

    Could the phoenix that appeared to Credence/ Aurelius Dumbledore eventually become Fawkes?

  • @ThePremiumChicken
    @ThePremiumChicken 5 лет назад +57

    One thing I know about Credence is that he's part of the Clearwater Revival

    • @dutchkel
      @dutchkel 5 лет назад +2

      I lol'd

    • @nathancowart
      @nathancowart 5 лет назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @erickcassibo8172
      @erickcassibo8172 5 лет назад +1

      Too many people didn't get this.

    • @zerrierslizer1
      @zerrierslizer1 5 лет назад +1

      haha good one. :P that one got me laughing pretty hard in fact! xD

    • @gregoryfenn1462
      @gregoryfenn1462 5 лет назад

      Is that a religion baptismal thing? (credo = latin for faith, clearwater revival = baptismal renewal)?

  • @zunjuu
    @zunjuu 4 года назад +17

    I think the explanation is simple. We know that Dumbledore went around tracing Voldemort's past. Since Olivander remembers every wand he ever sold, he should have revealed that the wand core was a phoenix feather. Dumbledore should have acquired the bird to work out a way to neutralize Voldemort's wand. As phoenix always helps a Dumbledore in need, it should have willingly given a second feather. The wand eventually chose Voldemort again. But only this time it was the Voldemort that was within Harry.

  • @DocRigel
    @DocRigel 5 лет назад +3

    I have three theories.
    First I figured that because of Dumbledores interest in Voldemort he tracked down the Phoenix after learning of the wands. Not that interesting and very dry in story.
    Second I originally thought the wand choose Harry because of the part of Voldemort inside him. It seemed to relate with his Parsel tongue ability and simular traits.
    Third and more likely deals with the wands being part of the prophecy. Keep up with me. This can go two ways. First the second coming of the dark lord gets a wand and his prophesied rival gets its twin. That proposes the it could be the work of a higher power of magic balance.
    Third part two. Upon learning of Valdemorts wand and the Phoenix Dumbledore tracks it down and it either donates a second feather which they keep watch over until the rival presents itself (or the feather already has been donated they could just suspect it being aligned with the prophecy and the Phoenix could be a backup trump card in their arsenal). Harry has many abilities that lend to his advantage in the rivalry against Valdemort, Dumbledore admits that he used Harry. This could all be a long con built off of the prophecy engineering the perfect end to the dark wizard.
    The love defense, the wand, his Parsel tongue, him being a holcrux, the collection of the deathly hallows. This all seems to speak to a chain of events engineered by the balance of fate or a skilled wizard like Dumbledore. Dumbledores plan would have started the night of the Potter attack. This would require his suspension of either the prophecy or the holcrux embodying Harry at that moment.
    Anyway tell me what you think.

  • @arielsteinsaltz1956
    @arielsteinsaltz1956 5 лет назад +6

    Please, just call the poor bird Mr. Bob.
    Also I always just thought it was Fawkes because it was cooler... but maybe Fawkes set the twin cores thing up from the very beginning?

  • @djibouti2136
    @djibouti2136 3 года назад +7

    "If you heard of the ship of Theseus paradox"
    Me right after watching Wandavision, thinkin someone is spying me: 😶

    • @darthrevan5976
      @darthrevan5976 3 года назад

      Something interesting I realised was that I was thinking of that exact same paradox before watching the video .

  • @BrockSamsonite
    @BrockSamsonite 2 года назад +5

    It's especially important when you keep in mind that Dumbledore basically raised both Harry and Voldemort like a foster parent.

  • @inspectorbutters166
    @inspectorbutters166 5 лет назад +1

    I have a different theory:
    According to Herodotus, the Egyptians (or more accurately the inhabitants of Heliopolis) believed that the phoenix came to a temple every 500 years, where it died and rose from the ashes.
    To me this implies one of two things:
    1 A phoenix can only die once every 500 years to be reborn
    2 A phoenix has precognition about its death
    We see Fawkes die twice in the span of three to four years, so I am going with number two.
    It may be the case, that a phoenix doesn't only have precognition about his next death, but about all his deaths in the future, which would include precognition about being killed by Voldemort, which would mean he had at least a little precognition about the most powerful dark wizard of all time as well.
    So Fawkes being aware of the threat gave two feathers: One goes to Voldemort (which means Fawkes ironically created the weapon that kills him) while the other waits in Ollivander's shop until a boy enters, who is destined to defeat the dark lord.
    Fawkes wasn't "edgy" or a "dark phoenix". He cleverly laid out a death trap to a wizard who never expected that beings he considered "lesser creatures" were able to harm him.

  • @BlackHoleForge
    @BlackHoleForge 5 лет назад +18

    I think it's interesting that the Fawk feather chose Voldemort. And I believe it is only because Harry had a cursed mark from Voldemort i.e horocrux, that he was able to get chosen by the Fawk feather wands brother wand

  • @tortis6342
    @tortis6342 4 года назад +4

    My personal feeling is that Fawkes had a premonition of the future and gave the feather/wand to Voldy knowing someday his equal would be born for the wand to be given to. Fawkes definitely has some abilities like that, because he was able to find harry in the chamber of secrets

  • @lillianmanuel4956
    @lillianmanuel4956 5 лет назад +8

    I relate to Bob. He is my new Patronus.

  • @realbadger
    @realbadger 3 года назад +2

    "Same bird... different companions, and values..."
    Sounds more like a Phoenix rebirth is like a Gallifreyan Time Lord regeneration...

  • @Stefan-10
    @Stefan-10 3 года назад +12

    How did olivander know which wand voldemort has? If he remembers every wand he ever sold does that mean olivander knew voldemort was tom riddle?

    • @patrickshade3844
      @patrickshade3844 2 года назад +8

      Yes. He remembers every wand, so Voldemort running around using the wand he sold to Riddle wouldn't be hard to piece together

    • @shihoblade
      @shihoblade Год назад

      Tom Riddle being Voldemort isnt a secret, its just no one whp lnpws dares to bring it up. Voldemort isnt young; people who knew him as Tom are few. And the ones who do know, how many speam of him above a whisper?

    • @Stefan-10
      @Stefan-10 Год назад

      it is a secret, basically harry found out with tom's diary, but i dont think they made it public, also olivander mentioned this in the first movie, after no one knew that tom riddle was voldemort. tom was even a teacher on hogwarts and was presumed dead after his appearence changed
      @@shihoblade

  • @skynyrdjesus
    @skynyrdjesus 4 года назад +3

    Aside from trying to come up with an in universe reason to explain how it happened, there's also the literary significance that the wands from Fawkes, the creature most associated with Dumbledore in a series where connecting people with animals is such a massive theme, are choosing the people who embody the core aspects of Dumbledore's inner conflict. Dumbledore has a truly terrible human being inside him that he constantly keeps in check by trying to be a good man. Its the easy for a good man to be good, but incredibly hard for an evil one to be a good man, and that's played out as a life and death struggle between Harry and Voldemort, neither can live while the other survives. Maybe that's too obvious because the righteous struggle to remain a good person is one of the most blatant themes in the series, but I felt like I should say it

  • @nikkihansen2101
    @nikkihansen2101 5 лет назад +56

    Heck yeah Bob by the way I love your channel you guys are amazing❤️❤️❤️😁😁😁

    • @lydias376
      @lydias376 5 лет назад +19

      It is mr. Bob! Respect Mr. Bob!

    • @lillymains9350
      @lillymains9350 5 лет назад +12

      Its mr bob. He is emotionally hurt! Please dont be mean to him anymore!😢

    • @jaysea682
      @jaysea682 5 лет назад +4

      MISTER BOB THE PHOENIX

    • @raihannashamsudin5843
      @raihannashamsudin5843 5 лет назад

      Nikki Hansen ex-cuuuussseee me! Have some respect for Mr Bob

  • @robertross9019
    @robertross9019 3 года назад +1

    Once donated would either feather or any other core for that matter retain any semblance of the donating creature’s personality. We’ve heard that the elder wand, of elder wood with a core of the thestral hair always seeks out the stronger wizard. We’ve also learned that of the three primary core types (unicorn hair, Phoenix feather & dragon heartstring) are of differing strengths. Perhaps such wands seek partners/wizards whose gifts and/or attitudes best suit them.

  • @citywitt3202
    @citywitt3202 5 лет назад +5

    Fawks gave a third feather, book 5, “we need, a warning.”
    I would love to see where that ended up

    • @Emrys91
      @Emrys91 5 лет назад +2

      Turned to ash ?

  • @zachwimpelberg7310
    @zachwimpelberg7310 4 года назад +4

    Theory: Within Dumbledore there is a great power to do good and evil. His Phoenix expresses that.

  • @Flashbek87
    @Flashbek87 5 лет назад +70

    I loved old “Hey brother” intro more

  • @goku1249
    @goku1249 3 года назад +1

    My theory is the wand didn't choose harry but chose the part of voldamorts soul that made harry a horacrux

  • @corinadarie6658
    @corinadarie6658 4 года назад +3

    If Dumbledore had Fawkes in "Crimes of Grindelwald" I'm fairly certain he wouldn't keep him in the classroom, in view of just anyone.

  • @TheBlackAbyss1
    @TheBlackAbyss1 5 лет назад +41

    Am i the only one that likes the other intro better?

  • @rohanrali182
    @rohanrali182 5 лет назад +55

    Lets start a trust fund to support Mr. Bob and Phoenix abuse
    *IF YOU HURT THE BIRD YOULL HIT THE DIRT*

  • @parthsharma4124
    @parthsharma4124 5 лет назад +1

    PHOENIX GAVE CORE TO THE WANDS OF VOLDEMORT AND HARRY BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM WOULD RISE FROM THE DEAD LIKE PHOENIX ITSELF.
    Also Olivander stated that he would achieve big unfathomable heights just like the owner of the twin sister wand.
    What greater a height than cheating Death????

  • @micniicecream7478
    @micniicecream7478 5 лет назад +6

    You can review all these when i i can't even review for a test

  • @dominos_pizza7
    @dominos_pizza7 5 лет назад +6

    OMG I CLICKED THIS THE SECOND I GOT THE NOTIFICATION! :))))))) I love you guys sooooooo much!

  • @jzb7394
    @jzb7394 5 лет назад +4

    Maybe it's because dumbeldore actively looked and "rescued" Harry and Tom from being orphans, and brought them both into the wizarding world

    • @gregoryfenn1462
      @gregoryfenn1462 5 лет назад

      But that's probably true for dozens of people I think? Wasn't his whole role as teacher and then headteacher defined by wanting to reach out to wizards and witches who were growing up in muggle worlds, whereas the other magical schools shunned them? It seems certain that there were other orphans too, statistically speaking.

    • @jzb7394
      @jzb7394 5 лет назад

      @@gregoryfenn1462 Maybe, but dumbeldore may have had a stronger bond with these two

  • @SozuSozin
    @SozuSozin 4 года назад +1

    “When an immovable object meets an unstoppable force”