What If Dobby NEVER Interfered In Harry’s Life? | Harry Potter Film Theory

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  • @angelaphsiao
    @angelaphsiao Год назад +735

    Imagine the slug belching curse never backfired on Ron and that became his signature spell

    • @redneckwithajeep5001
      @redneckwithajeep5001 Год назад +58

      Now that’s a hex I wouldn’t want cast on me

    • @Dexter-do6hz
      @Dexter-do6hz Год назад +37

      just like ginnys batbogey hex 😮

    • @lynnevetter
      @lynnevetter Год назад +51

      I love the idea of Ron doing this in the Ministry of magic when they are fighting the filthy death eaters.

    • @KeiraH-j1j
      @KeiraH-j1j Год назад +7

      I’d love to imagine Malfoy having to throw up slugs lol i’m a Gryffindor by the way

    • @pokebreederrichard1200
      @pokebreederrichard1200 Год назад +4

      Interesting, considering bat boogie hex is Ginny's

  • @alexknj1
    @alexknj1 Год назад +959

    Obviously, if Ron has his wand facing Aragog, he casts the slug belching curse in one of the spiders, distracting them all with easier food enough for them to get away.

    • @sarahclapp505
      @sarahclapp505 Год назад +27

      And now I can only see a spider 🤮🤮🤮🤮slugs 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

    • @sethkeown5965
      @sethkeown5965 Год назад +21

      Pretty obvious

    • @tvrkm6897
      @tvrkm6897 Год назад +21

      He could go super saiyan and go on a fear-driven extermination spree.

    • @NTLMBigBench
      @NTLMBigBench Год назад +18

      @@tvrkm6897it’s the legendary……..Super Ginger!
      He might even go Super Ginger 2!

    • @DaddyWarlocks
      @DaddyWarlocks Год назад +4

      ​@@NTLMBigBench"kaaa...meee...'aaaa...meee....'AAAA"

  • @twoankles
    @twoankles Год назад +326

    Assuming Ron’s wand was loyal to him (as it belonged to Charlie previously), it’s also possible for his wand to refuse Lockhart’s spell against its master Ron and backfire onto Lockhart, which would allow the rest of the original story to transpire lol

    • @alexanderzack3720
      @alexanderzack3720 Год назад +30

      but lockhart would have won alegience of the wand, since he disarmed it from ron, similar how harry won over the death wand from malfoy

    • @twoankles
      @twoankles Год назад +59

      @@alexanderzack3720 not necessarily. A wand is not always so fickle that it’d change allegiance by a simple disarming spell. If that was the case, Ron wouldn’t after a wand after DA practice with Hermione lol. The elder wand swayed when Dumbledore was severely weakened and Draco was at worst emotionally.

    • @whaddup691
      @whaddup691 Год назад +12

      Taking a wand physically transfers allegiance as seen in the deathly hallows

    • @alexanderzack3720
      @alexanderzack3720 Год назад +7

      @@twoankles and swapped again when harry ripped wand out of draco´s hand... the elder wand wasn´t even close by.
      my guess why practising the disarming spell in class or the DA doesn´t do that is: the other party doesn´t take the wand and gives it right back. both go into that szenaria EXPECTING that you get disarmed (similar to what dumbledore tried the "not fighting back" part)

    • @twoankles
      @twoankles Год назад +10

      @@alexanderzack3720 That’s entirely possible and I do not deny Lockhart could have won such allegiance, I don’t assume so as such formality is not necessary in determining a wand’s loyalty. After all, in the famous words of Ollivander, the wand chooses the wizard.

  • @OkayYaraman
    @OkayYaraman Год назад +291

    Seeing that clip of Malfoy made me wonder: Why didn’t Lucius tell him it was Hagrid that got expelled? You’d think he’d be happy to tell him how a half-breed got kicked out of Hogwarts.

    • @leventebardossy5962
      @leventebardossy5962 Год назад +36

      It could have harmed Voldemort's future plans for the Chamber. Dumbledore already believed in Hagrid's innocence, he was just not in a position to save him from being expelled. However, as Headmaster, he would do everything to prove his innocence and would likely start an investigation. Hagrid's framing was highly illogical, ad if Dumbledore finds out what the key is to unleash the Basilisk, even if he can't find the entrance itself, would cause serious challenges when Voldemort wants to open it again.

    • @shirleyclingan4228
      @shirleyclingan4228 Год назад +10

      Because he was just giving up the diary without knowing what it was. Don’t you remember, had he known what he had he’d never have given it up.

    • @trevorritzke2099
      @trevorritzke2099 Год назад +20

      I mean, Malfoy really wants to help the heir. Obviously idolizing and giving them hero worship even without knowing who they are. What do you think would happen if Malfoy learned that the half-breed giant who is an abomination even worse than a mud blood is actually the individual who he wants to help and considers to be a hero. I think that would be something Lucious wouldn't want his son to know.

    • @OkayYaraman
      @OkayYaraman Год назад +12

      @@trevorritzke2099 Good point. Although that’s assuming that Lucius actually believed it was Hagrid who opened the Chamber and didn’t know that Voldemort was the true heir of Slytherin. That seems like something Voldemort would brag to his Death Eaters about, especially the one he entrusted the diary to.

    • @alyssaalexander4962
      @alyssaalexander4962 Год назад

      At least Lucius didn't give the diary to Draco or Ginny while knowing that it was a horcrux.

  • @ugolomb
    @ugolomb Год назад +234

    This also means that, if Harry and Ron had simply waited next to the car for Ron's parents to return (instead of taking the car), the same thing would have happened: Ron's wand would not have been broken, the Ford Anglia would not have roamed the Forest, and Voldemort would have won...

    • @mienfu9824
      @mienfu9824 Год назад +40

      So Molly basically sent a howler to Ron for doing something that saved both his and Harry's life. What a terrible mother!

    • @TheKabuto90
      @TheKabuto90 Год назад +22

      @@mienfu9824 Surely you're joking. She had no way of knowing that, she only knew that Harry and Ron had almost died and gotten Arthur in a great deal of trouble at work.

    • @AuroraButterflyx
      @AuroraButterflyx Год назад

      Basically 😅

    • @matthewpatrick7263
      @matthewpatrick7263 Год назад +16

      @@TheKabuto90 Sending a howler at all to publicly humiliate your son isn't being a good mother.

    • @crowlowin4330
      @crowlowin4330 Год назад +9

      If they’d just sent Harry’s owl like the teachers suggested the same would’ve happened… preteen stupidity saved their lives

  • @kristynheagberg1270
    @kristynheagberg1270 Год назад +123

    When I first saw the title of this video my immediate thought was that Harry and Ron would be spider food. Dobby was so inadvertently helpful.

    • @rachelhetrick4139
      @rachelhetrick4139 Год назад +6

      That was my exact thought too. Dobby was extremely important to the story because he saved Harry's life inadvertently.

    • @nzraya
      @nzraya 4 месяца назад

      Same😊

  • @sshuggi
    @sshuggi Год назад +47

    If Ron had his wand in the forest, he could make the spiders "eat slugs", which is kind of the perfect defense in that moment.

    • @alexanderzack3720
      @alexanderzack3720 Год назад +6

      except, at best, he can do that one spider at a time. they are both dead before ron curses a dozen of them

  • @olirothers
    @olirothers Год назад +332

    What if Dumbledore never heard the prophecy and still thought it was down to him to take down Voldemort?

    • @barba5209
      @barba5209 Год назад +25

      Wow chill Trelawney this is way too speculative

    • @andrewpaden397
      @andrewpaden397 Год назад +12

      That’s a good one

    • @olirothers
      @olirothers Год назад +7

      @@barba5209 exactly! Be more speculative, Goyle.

    • @lynnevetter
      @lynnevetter Год назад +7

      @@olirothers I didn't know you wore glasses....

    • @Jenisonc
      @Jenisonc Год назад +11

      What if they never knew about the prophecy and didn't know/think Harry was "the chosen one?"

  • @Avalonia87
    @Avalonia87 Год назад +35

    So Dobby would not have been freed. Even if Rons wand snapped in the forest, so it still backfires on Lockhart, Harry and Dobby would only meet for the first time when Dobby comes to Hogwarts with Lucius Malfoy. He would be a weird thing with big eyes and ears, wildly gesturing and Harry would just think, that Dobby is a curious creature, not understanding anything or even knowing of house elves.

  • @Eohwolf
    @Eohwolf Год назад +369

    Idea: What if Harry went to the Yule Ball with Ginny instead of Parvati
    Edit: Or maybe ‘What if Peter never became friends with the rest of the marauders’

    • @m3ntalhedgehogz243
      @m3ntalhedgehogz243 Год назад +9

      this so much this

    • @Gummyz25
      @Gummyz25 Год назад +84

      She would awkwardly feed him every food at the ball and god forbid if harry had laces on those shoes

    • @DoktorDaytha
      @DoktorDaytha Год назад +18

      @@Gummyz25 well… in the Movie surely… sorry couldn‘t kept my Book nerd to myself

    • @MrEvanNoyes
      @MrEvanNoyes Год назад +2

      I thought that was part of another theory vid they did. I'm suddenly not remembering any more and could be making it up, but wasn't there a theory on all 7 years or something. Idk someone else knows lol

    • @straaths
      @straaths Год назад +3

      or with Nevile

  • @Prodrummer1603
    @Prodrummer1603 Год назад +69

    And it goes even deeper:
    Harry never meets Dobby, He never frees him from the Malfoys.
    And Dobby wont rescue Harry and His Friends from Malfoys Mansion.
    If He even gets to this Point.😅

    • @zweifaltspinsel2563
      @zweifaltspinsel2563 Год назад +20

      To add to that: Harry wouldn‘t know anything about handling a house-elf which in turn would have a massive impact on Harry‘s relationship with Kreacher

    • @lb261benza-fu9wt
      @lb261benza-fu9wt Год назад +4

      Funny how the whole plot would just fall without dobby, while harry thought his idea of saving him is killing him

    • @StarryEyed0590
      @StarryEyed0590 Год назад +10

      Harry might very well drown attempting the second Triwizard Task (he's going to try if he thinks he needs to save Ron and Hermione even if he has no idea how to do it) if Barty Crouch Jr can't come up with another backup plan. He won't find out about the Room of Requirement, and so the DA is probably either discovered early on or never really gets off the ground. This results in Hermione, Ron, Ginny, Neville, Luna, and several other characters lacking critical skills,more than likely getting at least one of them killed if they still go to the Department of Mysteries, and greatly increasing the chance that they will die in the final book. Potentially, Harry and/or other DA members are expelled from Hogwarts (this could potentially get reversed the next year, though). And, of course, as already said, no Dobby significantly impacts how Harry handles the Kreacher situation, and no Dobby means no rescue from Malfoy Manor.
      So basically, Prisoner of Azkaban is the ONLY book where Harry isn't screwed without Dobby there.

  • @bendowson3124
    @bendowson3124 Год назад +55

    Actually I imagine Lockhart would need to cast "obligate" twice, once for Ron and once for Harry. In which case, if he starts with Ron, Harry might at least be able to save himself by disarming Lockhart and then knocking him out. Harry would then go and save Ginny and once Harry explains to Dumbledore what happened, Lockhart would get arrested and Ron would be sent to St Mungo's.

    • @bennysundance175
      @bennysundance175 Год назад +6

      I think he would start with Harry, because he had his wand...

    • @qazmko22
      @qazmko22 Год назад +10

      @@bennysundance175 I don't think Lockhart was that intelligent.

    • @alinamagda2547
      @alinamagda2547 Год назад +2

      Well... For one thing it's "OBLIVIATE" not "obligate" and for another thing... I doubt the wand would have actually worked. Remember that according to Ollivander 'the wand chooses the wizard.' On that note, I seriously doubt that a wand that had only served the Weasleys who were all kind, honest, loyal and brave would switch allegiance to someone who is a fraud, sly and cunning like Lockhart. It just... doesn't make sense.

    • @bendowson3124
      @bendowson3124 Год назад

      @@alinamagda2547 The wand worked in removing Lockhart's memories so I see no reason why it couldn't work on Harry and Ron. I guess it is possible that if the wand had chosen Ron (which it hadn't as it was a hand-me-down), then perhaps it might have refused to obliviate Ron and only worked on Harry.

    • @thedelta4258
      @thedelta4258 11 месяцев назад

      Which then means Ron can't save Harry from drowning in book seven

  • @alyssakays367
    @alyssakays367 Год назад +80

    It’s a tragic irony that the one time Dobby does successfully save Harry ‘s life (on purpose) it costs him his life. 😢

  • @erikagholston6610
    @erikagholston6610 Год назад +24

    I’m glad Dobby was added to the story. He was a great elf.

  • @Ollie.H-23
    @Ollie.H-23 Год назад +326

    The only reason they let Harry stay at the Burrow in Goblet of Fire is because Harry threatened to tell Sirius he was being mistreated. The Dursleys still believe Sirius is a murderer, Harry "conveniently" forgot to tell them he was innocent.
    Edit: I get the point! The Durselys don't know Harry can't do magic, now will you all shut up about it

    • @samstromberg5593
      @samstromberg5593 Год назад +21

      Well I'm not sure that was the ONLY reason - I mean he DOES have that internal battle J was talking about, and I think possibly the thought of saying no to Mr Weasly may have had the same effect on Uncle Vernon that Sirius does

    • @Ollie.H-23
      @Ollie.H-23 Год назад +11

      @@samstromberg5593 Doubt it.
      Yes, Vernon had the internal debate but it was Harry using Sirius as a threat that made Vernon come to a conclusion.

    • @samstromberg5593
      @samstromberg5593 Год назад +11

      Plus if the Dursleys are going to Spain then Harry will need a place to stay cause they don't wanna take him or leave him home alone
      Oh and plus I guess whether he stays with them or not doesn't make a huge difference, I think we can pretty safely assume that he reaches the train at the same time as them anyway cause that's what happens first year

    • @samstromberg5593
      @samstromberg5593 Год назад +3

      @@Ollie.H-23 Well but my point is I think he could use Arthur as the same kind of threat in this case

    • @Ollie.H-23
      @Ollie.H-23 Год назад +3

      @@samstromberg5593 Oh, if they're going to Spain, definitely

  • @daviddickey9762
    @daviddickey9762 Год назад +46

    Yes it does. Without the 1st time meeting then the bond between Harry and dobby is established for the future. Which means when the trio is captured in the forest they cant call him to help them escape.

    • @TheRealCardoso
      @TheRealCardoso Год назад +1

      I think in this video they were only talking about the chamber of secrets since he is important in deathly hallows

    • @louisnstalley
      @louisnstalley Год назад

      Ye duh they specify that

    • @ryanpratt6993
      @ryanpratt6993 Год назад +4

      He could call Kreacher

    • @gingersnap8543
      @gingersnap8543 Год назад +3

      Not only could he call kreacher, but also Harry’s not the one who calls dobby in the first place, aberforth is. Also I feel like the story might be a lot more interesting if when we see dobby at Malfoy manner he’s still owned by the Malfoys, and has an inner turmoil between his wizard family and his loyalty to the one who made the dark lord go away for the first time

    • @shreyasjape1912
      @shreyasjape1912 Год назад +3

      ​@@gingersnap8543When in Deathly Hallows Dobby comes to rescue them, he is not owned by Malfoys. Harry tricks Lucius into freeing Dobby at the end of CoS itself. After that Dobby had been working at Hogwarts (taking salary and all). He went to rescue Harry because he thought of him as a friend.

  • @togerumisu
    @togerumisu Год назад +51

    Great video as always. Here's my own what if to grease the gears of creativity: what if Hermione was sorted into Ravenclaw? She was almost (or is, I don't remember) a hatstall between that and Gryffindor. In the end the hat lead her one way, but what if it led to another? Onto a path where she might not even befriend the other two of the trio in the first place? Though I do admit Flitwick's class on Halloween was left ambiguous in the movies it was with Slytherin so there's a good chance the event that sends her off on the night of the troll attack just never even happens. Just an idea, because throughout all the years Hermione is a constant and present aid to the trio. Without her, what could happen?

    • @ajwinberg
      @ajwinberg Год назад +1

      I really like this idea. It would be cool if the Carlin Bros. pursued it.

    • @AuroraButterflyx
      @AuroraButterflyx Год назад +1

      Ooh that would be interesting 😮.

    • @bluelemon243
      @bluelemon243 Год назад +1

      Assuming harry and ron survived up to the 3 year (which i belive its true thanks to some damb luck, i can elaborate) and assuming hermione still get the time turner in the third year (reasonable assumption) this is what will happen
      In cannon, what happened is that dambledor saw harry cast a patronus to save himself, realised there was a time travel, realised sirius was innocent and thought of his plan
      The exact same thing will happen here too, and because hermione is the only student with a time turner he will explain her the situation and ask for her help and she will agree
      Now if a single troll was enough to make them friends, a full time travel adventure will also be enough
      Now in the 4 year, haery will probably visit the ravenclaw common room a lot when he has his fight with ron, so he will see thestatue with the diadem so he may will recognize and destroy the diadem in the 6 year when he find it
      If he do that, it will make a huge diffrent and prevent the entire battle of hogwarts, what will happened instead ? I can only guess

    • @StarryEyed0590
      @StarryEyed0590 Год назад +1

      @@bluelemon243 A Hermione that was never friends with Ron and Harry is NOT going to break Wizarding Law just on a rushed explanation

    • @lxena8033
      @lxena8033 Год назад

      There was no hatstall for Hermione. She said the hat did consider her for Ravenclaw, but in the end chose her to go to Gryffindor. A hat stall only occurs when the hat takes more than 5 minutes to place you. And by book, and movie accounts, she wasn't under the hat very long.

  • @Acerthorn
    @Acerthorn Год назад +105

    What if Frank and Alice Longbottom escape from Belletrix with their sanity intact?

    • @Salt_Master_Queue
      @Salt_Master_Queue Год назад

      We need your comment to made into a video!

    • @zbanul10
      @zbanul10 Год назад +10

      Nothing just no tragic backstory. Maybe nevelle would have more confidence earlier but that’s it

    • @Acerthorn
      @Acerthorn Год назад +5

      @@zbanul10 Also, the Longbottoms would be instrumental in the Second Wizarding War. Plus they might have caught Lucious Malfoy trying to slip the horcrux diary into Ginny's cauldron and thrwarted that plan.

  • @DG-kd5bs
    @DG-kd5bs Год назад +81

    I’d love to see a theory on what if Harry and Ron decided not to be friends with Hermione. Her character provides so much exposition and moves the plot forward on many occasions.

    • @louisnstalley
      @louisnstalley Год назад +3

      Me too😊

    • @staticradio724
      @staticradio724 Год назад +15

      I saw a comment on another video suggesting: what if Hermione had been killed by the troll in book 1? I always thought that would be awesome to tackle, but it might be too much.

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 Год назад +5

      @@staticradio724 I think that was me. I still support it.

    • @keithg460
      @keithg460 Год назад +5

      Because she lets them copy her notes and homework, I think it would force them to become better students.
      But Harry would probably get stuck at the Potions Riddle.

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 Год назад +4

      @@staticradio724 Honestly you don't have to kill her, just have her sorted into Ravenclaw, where surrounded by people intellectually tilted like her, she'd have a circle of friends, and thus is unlikely to interact with Harry and Ron, which honestly nobody gets the stone then. In that case, ironically Quirell remains possessed and the DADA teacher in year two, or Dumbledore just turns him in to prove Voldermort "survived".
      Hmmm.... not really one of their usual ones that sticks near the script, but that would be an interesting timeline, of what happens if nobody gets to the stone.

  • @red5_skywalker
    @red5_skywalker Год назад +4

    "How can you be nearly boneless?"
    That got me good, I was in a fit of laughter for a while! I had to pause the video to calm down 😂

  • @ghazalmirani1445
    @ghazalmirani1445 Год назад +33

    I'd be really surprised by Ron's ability to take down dozens of huge spiders without considering his phobia!!..I think it was better if a fantastic beast save them now that we are improvising

    • @louisnstalley
      @louisnstalley Год назад

      It’s spelt PHobia😊

    • @ghazalmirani1445
      @ghazalmirani1445 Год назад +1

      @@louisnstalley thanks.I'll be surprise if it's my only mistake!

    • @ryanpratt6993
      @ryanpratt6993 Год назад +1

      We don’t know where to find a fantastic beast, though

    • @ghazalmirani1445
      @ghazalmirani1445 Год назад +1

      @@ryanpratt6993 they are in the forbidden forest! how about a thestral or unicorn

    • @gregmoors1
      @gregmoors1 Год назад +1

      I agree, I don’t see any way for Harry and Ron to fight their way out of this. If the car wasn’t there, someone/thing else would have to save them. Most likely the centaurs, perhaps Firenze follows Harry through the forest and goes to get the others when he sees where he and Ron are going, allowing them to arrive in the nick of time for a rescue. Given there’s already centaur rescues in PS and OotP, it would be very repetitive!

  • @siriusleeblueberry5703
    @siriusleeblueberry5703 Год назад +45

    I don’t think the horcrux inside of Harry would have let him die to spideys. Likely he would have produced some sort of OP magic like golden flames to save himself when near death. The only reason the basilisk venom would have killed him without Fawks intervention is because that destroys horcruxes. Every other time he’s been in real life or death situations his wand has produced a McMuffin to save him :3

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 Год назад +6

      Yes that is one possibility that is some way the Horcrux acts like the others and protects itself.

    • @thomaszielke866
      @thomaszielke866 Год назад +2

      Ooh, this actually spawned a question for me. Presuming Harry and Ron get eaten by acromantulas, does the spare piece of Voldemort’s soul exist?

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 Год назад +4

      @@thomaszielke866 Given its destroyed when Harry dies to a death curse, Harry dying otherwise would still destroy it. Thus why the soul fragment would likely defend itself in some way as the most plausible survival rote.

    • @Lo0serx3
      @Lo0serx3 Год назад +1

      I was under the impression the power from the horcrux only matters when he's facing Voldemort

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 Год назад +1

      @@Lo0serx3 It has a special power, between the two of them, but the other horcrux have also show ability to defend themselves from being destroyed.

  • @emilygrove8968
    @emilygrove8968 Год назад +15

    No, that's the middle of the road Ron's won breaks escaping a spider. And that means everything at the end happens the right way.

  • @zatar123
    @zatar123 Год назад +20

    If Harry and Ron escape the spiders there is no reason why Harry couldn't beat Lockhart down in the chamber knocking him into the wall and causing the cave in same as in the original story.
    With the added bonus that Lockhart gets to answer for his crimes.

  • @lynkingg
    @lynkingg Год назад +25

    In goblet of fire Vernon had a choice
    make Harry miserable
    or face the wrath of an escaped convict

    • @matthewpatrick7263
      @matthewpatrick7263 Год назад +4

      If Vernon could've had Harry out of the house - gone - when those clients came over for dinner, he'd have jumped at the chance.

    • @lynkingg
      @lynkingg Год назад +1

      @@matthewpatrick7263 yes

  • @MrEvanNoyes
    @MrEvanNoyes Год назад +65

    Im very thankful to you boys for single handedly keeping my potter fanatacism at a healthy 8/10. Gonna do another listen through of the audiobooks at work soon thanks Carlin Bros!

  • @nicholasroth424
    @nicholasroth424 Год назад +5

    Ron uses "Lumos Maxima" on the spiders, and with how scared he is, it is to powerful and damages his wand just enough that when Lockhart tries to memory wipe them it backfires on him.

  • @williamblack2904
    @williamblack2904 Год назад +2

    Dobey being the definition of “Task failed successfully.”

  • @Egg_Sandwich1
    @Egg_Sandwich1 Год назад +18

    But how does it effect the rest of the saga, like Harry never gets the gillyweed, they never find out about the room of requirement, and they never escape from Malfoy manor

    • @TheKabuto90
      @TheKabuto90 Год назад +1

      There is no rest of the series unless there's some way to recover from magically induced memory loss, which as far as we know... there isn't. There's zero evidence to the contrary.

    • @lumpyduckling3522
      @lumpyduckling3522 Год назад +1

      I think that the rest of the books wouldn’t happen as Voldemort returns two years earlier and then successfully takes over without Harry too stop him because he is spider food/mindless

    • @gnarmaw7039
      @gnarmaw7039 Год назад

      Have you not seen the entire video? Harry is either dead or mindless and voldemort is back in book 2. Asking what about the gillyweed is pointless

    • @olirothers
      @olirothers Год назад +1

      I understand your question. Maybe with the horcrux in Harry destroyed by either spiders or Voldemort, the prophecy is broken and dumbledore is free to try take down Voldemort himself. Would he find all the horcruxes? Would he succeed? What about Sirius in Azkaban? Peter/scabbers? Snape? I know what you wanna hear

  • @ChrysanthemumEllarinaAli-rg9qt
    @ChrysanthemumEllarinaAli-rg9qt Год назад +1

    6:42 The reason Vernon agreed to let Harry go with the Weasleys to the Quidditch World Cup was because Harry threatened to let Sirius know he was being mistreated, and Vernon believed Sirius was a mass murderer at the time and agreed out of fear. In second year, Harry lacks that trump card and Vernon wouldn’t let him go. He didn’t even let Harry go to Hogwarts at first in the first book. To Vernon, keeping Harry unhappy and away from magic is more important than sending Harry away.

  • @Cat_Woods
    @Cat_Woods Год назад +12

    Makes you realize just how reckless Dumbledore was in hiring Lockhart and Hagrid was in telling them to follow the spiders.

    • @MadiganinPeach
      @MadiganinPeach Год назад +2

      Dumbledore was reckless countless times with his students especially Harry.

    • @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333
      @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 Год назад +5

      Well, Aragog was obviously good to Hagrid, so he thought he would be the same to Ron and Harry. I’m sure he’d be upset if Ron and Harry told him what the spiders tried to do.

    • @alexanderzack3720
      @alexanderzack3720 Год назад +1

      @@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 hagrid never listened to anything like that when harry and his friends said the same thing about other creatures hagrid had, you really think he would believe it when they say it about hagrids oldest freind he knew for 50 years?

    • @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333
      @SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 Год назад +1

      @@alexanderzack3720 If they told him that Aragog tried to actually kill them, yes.

  • @MythStarFire
    @MythStarFire Год назад +54

    But what if the Order of the Phoenix had figured out the easiest and safest way to get Harry out of Privet Drive was for Dobby to take him?
    Also Dobby wouldn’t give Harry the Gillyweed in Goblet of Fire, since he wouldn’t be at Hogwarts. He might still rescue them in Deathly Hallows, since he would still be a slave. If they had somehow managed to survive with their minds.

    • @snippydaturtle
      @snippydaturtle Год назад +2

      I think this is specifically just the second book

    • @mr.d8747
      @mr.d8747 Год назад +4

      @@snippydaturtle *Especiallly if they don't even survive the second book.*

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 Год назад +1

      Given it was a set up by Barty Croutch Jr, he would have found another way to get Harry what he needs, since the plan falls apart if Harry starts so far behind he can't win the maze, or outright performs so poorly the professors decide by the end even though he's "competing" Harry is to just sit at the start of the maze for his own safety.

  • @Tux3
    @Tux3 Год назад +6

    2:55 ayo thats me :)

  • @johnconner9296
    @johnconner9296 Год назад +9

    Heres an interesting what if. What if Mundungus didnt aperate away during the battle of the 7 potters?

    • @andeeharry
      @andeeharry Год назад +1

      We saw that one in Cursed Child. Moody would have been captured, tortured for information, under the impervious curse to steal from Gringotts

    • @johnconner9296
      @johnconner9296 Год назад

      @@andeeharry what would they want him to steal?

    • @andeeharry
      @andeeharry Год назад

      @@johnconner9296 It has been a while since I read it, I can't remember

    • @johnconner9296
      @johnconner9296 Год назад

      @@andeeharry no worries I was just curious

  • @WhoIsThisGodPersonAnyway
    @WhoIsThisGodPersonAnyway Год назад +1

    It’s amazing how there’s still solid and significant theories being explored

  • @lucasjoy6658
    @lucasjoy6658 Год назад +26

    I think the horcrux inside harry would have protected him, similar to how he produced golden flames to block Voldemort’s killing curse while unconscious in the battle of the seven potters.
    This comes from Ben’s theory of the golden flames, I understand that dumbledore tells harry that his wand did this because of the graveyard battle but I prefer the explanation that the horcrux is protecting itself when presented with certain death.
    (This doesn’t happen when harry sacrifices himself in the battle of hog warts because he is not holding his wand)

  • @kayleighlehrman9566
    @kayleighlehrman9566 8 месяцев назад +1

    Vernon's drill deal is almost definitely for exclusive supplier rights for a construction company rather than a single sale to an individual. I can't imagine a sinlge person spending enough on drills for themselves to justify buying a second house in a different country, but I can see it if it's for a company that might need hundreds of drills and drill accessories.

  • @sharonkeib5619
    @sharonkeib5619 Год назад +3

    I’m packing for college and have been waiting all day for this 😁😁

  • @WeebGirl6824
    @WeebGirl6824 Год назад +7

    Can you do "What is Snape was in Gryfinndor" or maybe Draco. I feel like there could be a lot of interesting paths to explore.

    • @ETPangilinan1
      @ETPangilinan1 Год назад

      I was about say something that involved people switching houses but i think that one was about Harry being in Slytherin.

    • @WeebGirl6824
      @WeebGirl6824 Год назад

      @@ETPangilinan1 Yeah, they made a 8 part Harry in Slytherin series which I really liked so I’d love to see that sort of thing for other characters.

  • @splayairplane3418
    @splayairplane3418 Год назад +8

    A scenario I think would be interesting is "What if Harry got the dementor's kiss in OOTP?" I wonder how dumbledore would react to harry, dudley and probably mrs figg getting the dementor's kiss

    • @matthewpatrick7263
      @matthewpatrick7263 Год назад +1

      What if the Dementor only got Harry's Horcrux before something stops it?

    • @alexanderzack3720
      @alexanderzack3720 Год назад

      yeah... great plan having harry guarded by a squib who is no help to anyone in case of an attack

    • @shreyasjape1912
      @shreyasjape1912 Год назад

      ​@@alexanderzack3720Actually OOTP members were keeping watch on Harry secretly all the summer. That day it was Mundungus Fletcher's turn, who I don't remember exactly went to purchase some free cupcakes or something. Mrs Figg mentions to Harry that she would complain to Dumbledore about this.

    • @alexanderzack3720
      @alexanderzack3720 Год назад

      @@shreyasjape1912 oh yes letting the coward and criminal keep guard against murderers and terrorist is MUCH better

  • @oldmanmichaelj
    @oldmanmichaelj 11 месяцев назад +1

    Here's an interesting Harry Potter What If, "What If Dudley was also a wizard?". Also I would want to know "What if Dudley and Harry were childhood friends/acted like an older brother to Harry?"

  • @figmundsreud9363
    @figmundsreud9363 Год назад +6

    As a Lockhart Fan I see this what if as an absolute win

  • @nataliamundell6266
    @nataliamundell6266 Год назад +1

    Doby was there for character development and to be a loveable antagonist unintentionally (and to allow haveing a car save them and lockhearts thing)

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +8

    You guys always lift me uo with these theories! You're the best!♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️🙏🙏🙏🙏♥️

  • @FatRonaldo1
    @FatRonaldo1 Год назад +2

    I feel like Ron would know a spell to repel spiders considering it’s his biggest fear he might have looked into it

  • @paulgarcia9682
    @paulgarcia9682 Год назад +6

    Dobby is a free elf

  • @Goabnb94
    @Goabnb94 Год назад +1

    Of course Ron having a functioning wand would come in clutch against the spiders, He let her stupify him, remember?

  • @c0stco_hotd0gs
    @c0stco_hotd0gs Год назад +11

    i love ur videos and theories so much. thanks j and ben for making quality content 👌

  • @mdzaeemzakaria6957
    @mdzaeemzakaria6957 Год назад +1

    When Lockhart tries cursing Ron his wand will backfire on him as the wand belongs to ron.

  • @alexpayne6753
    @alexpayne6753 Год назад +4

    would love to see a what if for if Draco's attempts on Dumbledore's life killed Katie bell or Ron or both

    • @KaiLucasZachary
      @KaiLucasZachary Год назад

      They never would have though because Dumbledore always knew about it from the beginning, hence the whole thing with Snape.

    • @alexpayne6753
      @alexpayne6753 Год назад

      Ron survives because of a bezoar thanks to harry if slughorn doesn't have one in his supply he would die.
      Dumbledore had snape trying to figure out what draco was doing but draco was being secretive so it is possible he could accidentally kill the wrong person

    • @KaiLucasZachary
      @KaiLucasZachary Год назад

      @@alexpayne6753 Fair point. I feel like Dumbledore himself would have been more skeptical of any gifts given directly to himself, but yeah one ended up with Ron, so who knows....

    • @alexpayne6753
      @alexpayne6753 Год назад

      Yeah im imagining dracos Character changes significantly if he kills someone considering he lowers his wand leading to either snape managing to secretly kill Dumbledore post locket retrieval or more of a decent for draco in a in for a penny in for a pound moment and he kills Dumbledore

  • @MumboJ
    @MumboJ Год назад

    8:38 Honestly that "you can have it downloaded before I'm done with this ad read" is a truly inspired endorsement.
    If I didn't already have it installed, that might've convinced me. :P

  • @JohnJohnson-br7si
    @JohnJohnson-br7si Год назад +3

    Or what if Buckbeak comes to their rescue and flys them out of there, that would also set up Harry seeing Buckbeak later in PoA and why he is willing to let Harry ride him again.

    • @ilbwfy1550
      @ilbwfy1550 11 месяцев назад

      he would be scared of arogog imo

  • @OliwerV
    @OliwerV Год назад +1

    Yeah as soon as i Saw the title i was like “But… they get eaten by spiders then. Right?”

  • @PrecariousPorcupine
    @PrecariousPorcupine Год назад +5

    I like that in Hogwarts Legacy they have you follow butterflies into the Forbidden Forest because Ron said that 😊

    • @53prime
      @53prime Год назад

      I missed that connection.

  • @ThyLord-kv5bf
    @ThyLord-kv5bf Год назад +1

    If he NEVER interfered in the deathly hallows they would be thoroughly screwed.

  • @andeeharry
    @andeeharry Год назад +34

    I am surprised we are doing this one. Without Dobby, there would be no random cake dump, no bars on the windows, harry would be talking to his friends, no escape from locked room, Lucius Malfoy would have cursed Harry at the end of the Chamber, no locked metal gateway to the train, so no flying car, no Whomping Willow, no broken wand, no howler, no midnight meetings, no rescue from Malfoy Manner, he wouldn't have died, no Gillyweed.

    • @MikeDCWeld
      @MikeDCWeld Год назад +15

      Without Dobby having interfered, Harry wouldn't have tricked Lucius into freeing Dobby, if he'd even brought Dobby at all, (in part because he wouldn't have known how yet) so Lucius wouldn't have had any reason to try to curse Harry at the end.

    • @ThisIsWizardsHandle
      @ThisIsWizardsHandle Год назад +5

      And on top of all that, Harry’s friendship with Dobby caused him ALOT more emotional growth

    • @mr.d8747
      @mr.d8747 Год назад +3

      *Yeah but if there's no flying car they just get eaten by spiders.*

    • @andeeharry
      @andeeharry Год назад

      @@mr.d8747 Nah, Harry would just Expelliarmous spell. sorry, can't spell it, you know the one I mean. He'd do his famous charm and he'd still live because of the Horcrux. He survived everything else.

    • @mr.d8747
      @mr.d8747 Год назад

      @@andeeharry *It's hard to disarm an animal without any arms. Also, Harry isn't invincible, not even against Voldemort yet because he hasn't taken Harry's blood yet. It's explained well in Dumbledore's Big Plan - Prisoner of Azkaban. If Harry gets eaten by the spiders, both Harry and the horcrux inside him would die.*

  • @marekknap891
    @marekknap891 Год назад +1

    Idea: what if bodycroutch got to dumbledoor and told him evrything

  • @Officialjamesandco
    @Officialjamesandco Год назад +3

    I used to watch you guys with my dad since the beginning and it makes me happy that you are still around after many years

  • @rhiannehamad2269
    @rhiannehamad2269 Год назад +1

    I literally just went on holiday to Mallorca, and its really nice there!

  • @dominichindle108
    @dominichindle108 Год назад +6

    A world without DOOBY is no world at all

  • @pvpro4475
    @pvpro4475 4 месяца назад +1

    I think the reason that harry and ron didn't move or react when lockhart to rons wand is bc they knew it was broken and would backfire at lockhart

  • @matthewhenthorn3343
    @matthewhenthorn3343 Год назад +3

    The Irony is I forgot about Lockhart's memory charm, so when you gave the outside chance that Harry and Ron survived Aragog, I thought that Harry would have no idea what Dobby was doing when pointing at the diary and Lucius Malfoy. it would have been a minor change but it would have meant Dobby wouldn't have been freed (assuming Harry even knew how).

  • @stillthere1238
    @stillthere1238 Год назад +1

    You forget that Ron's wand would be so weak by that point that it would barely work because then it would be a third generation wizard owner with that specific wand

  • @PaulieLauraXombie1331
    @PaulieLauraXombie1331 Год назад +6

    He kinda did in the long run and he helped significantly in 7, once he was freed by Harry well in Dobby's interpretation Luscious, he was than free to do whatever he wanted from that point on, we just never got that perspective or story to what happened to him between 2 and his well you know. There is every possibility he was a guardian to Harry even if we didn't know it through the book/movie.

    • @GhalanSmokeScale
      @GhalanSmokeScale Год назад +2

      We got much more Dobby in the books. The movies decided to cut him basically til the end.

  • @activekitchen1
    @activekitchen1 Год назад +2

    Dobby got harry and the others out of tbe malfoy basement when they had no other way out.

  • @Itz_Mont
    @Itz_Mont 5 месяцев назад +2

    If dobby never interferes Harry and Ron are either eatan alive by giant spiders, or they're minds are erased, Voldemort comes back kills Harry.... Good job dobby?

  • @theNicholas1117
    @theNicholas1117 Год назад +1

    Honestly, no dobby means harry can keep threatening the durslys with magic 😂

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +7

    Love your channel and work! Your passion and dedication is incredible!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤

  • @kalcheus
    @kalcheus Год назад +1

    "See! Harry loves going to the beach" SO WRONG

  • @brandonbrown7312
    @brandonbrown7312 Год назад +3

    What if snape survived would really have been a cool one, I feel like he'd despise harry naming his child after him 😂

  • @mrfunnierthanu
    @mrfunnierthanu Год назад

    Gee, that "See Harry loves going to beach" clip was dark... I love it!

  • @bigben3106
    @bigben3106 Год назад +3

    Honestly, Harry would have probably been safer without him.

    • @GhalanSmokeScale
      @GhalanSmokeScale Год назад

      Superficially, yes. But I agree with the sentiment here. The car wouldn't be in the forest, which is the only reason they made it out, and Ron's wand wouldn't be broken, which was just rotten luck on Lockhart's part to grab that one.

  • @erichousley448
    @erichousley448 Год назад +1

    Now do one where Dobby is Harry's house elf to be the promise after freeing him

    • @KeiraH-j1j
      @KeiraH-j1j Год назад

      That would be cool although I don’t think Harry would make dobby his slave, which is good

    • @erichousley448
      @erichousley448 Год назад

      @@KeiraH-j1j True. But he would help out a lot. Like taking him to school without anything stopping him. Thanks to Dobby's help and to make him a friend instead of slave

    • @KeiraH-j1j
      @KeiraH-j1j Год назад

      Yup that would be much better

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Год назад +3

    How you doing brothers!? Hope good!🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @quaktoons331
    @quaktoons331 Год назад +1

    SuperCarlinBrothers: "DOBBY MAKES NO DIFFERENCE?!"
    Me: First of all, how dare you.
    Second of all, *HOW DARE YOU!!!*

  • @TeachMeBert
    @TeachMeBert Год назад +16

    What if Dumbledore never hired Lockhart?

    • @fashionablechangeling2003
      @fashionablechangeling2003 Год назад +1

      I’m not sure how much impact this would have on the story except for CoS being a bit shorter

    • @charlesh9587
      @charlesh9587 Год назад

      This is an alternate beginning to Jennifer Craw.

  • @mysteriouso6413
    @mysteriouso6413 Год назад +1

    You should definatly go to mallorca its an amazing place i’ve been there on holiday twice and i recomened it

  • @RajaPea-ni4zs
    @RajaPea-ni4zs 11 месяцев назад +2

    In this case, Harry starts arguing with Arogog, but suddenly it’s in Parsel Tongue.
    Arogog realizes that he is the Heir of Slytherin, or so he thinks, and now knows that if for any reason the “Friend’s of Hagrid” don’t return to the castle, the Basilisk WILL COME LOOKING FOR THEM. 😎
    “Children, calm yourself. Good bye friends of Hagrid, take your leave and give Hagrid my best.”
    Harry and Ron depart, and Ron calls Harry out for being a Parsel mouth.

  • @joshg6491
    @joshg6491 Год назад +4

    Maybe the Malfoys sent him to tell Harry not to come so Harry won't interfere with the plans.

    • @Lovesmusic0218
      @Lovesmusic0218 Год назад

      Yes

    • @KaiLucasZachary
      @KaiLucasZachary Год назад +1

      Ehhh... Dobby seems genuinely loyal to Harry Potter multiple times throughout the series. And once he's already at the school, Dobby still visits him again. What would be their point in sending Dobby to the hospital wing in the middle of the night?

  • @lahlybird895
    @lahlybird895 Год назад +1

    Okay but I could see a really cool story of the entire wizarding world trying to protect brain-dead Harry in a giant keepaway game with voldey

  • @Tux3
    @Tux3 Год назад +3

    Ayo i said this ages ago

  • @MobyTheMerpup1852
    @MobyTheMerpup1852 Год назад +1

    Okay I couldn’t stop laughing at the alternate endings ha ha ha ha!

  • @swifteez13
    @swifteez13 Год назад +3

    I’ve never clicked on a video so fast.

  • @maja-kehn9130
    @maja-kehn9130 Год назад +2

    I have another what if idea...What if Dumbledore was the minister for magic instead of Hogwarts headmaster?

  • @lynkingg
    @lynkingg Год назад +7

    Say it with me
    *We want Chosen Neville back*

  • @rissaallen6298
    @rissaallen6298 Год назад

    “How could you be nearly boneless? Like this?” Highlight of the video 😂 13:17

  • @giantchezzyboi1663
    @giantchezzyboi1663 Год назад +1

    Do what if worm tail didnt escape when lupin turned into a werewolf

  • @KudaKeileon
    @KudaKeileon Год назад

    I love how Ron's first instinct to repair his super important magical item is to use completely ordinary tape with magical branding on it

  • @matthewthomas6123
    @matthewthomas6123 Год назад +2

    Velociraptor Brown might be the funniest thing ever. I love how it was brought back this video 😂😂

  • @geenkaas6380
    @geenkaas6380 Год назад +2

    The boy who was Spider food

  • @DeadBore
    @DeadBore Год назад

    That “shush” in the forest is so funny how did I forget that

  • @imaginepageant
    @imaginepageant Год назад

    No matter how many times you slip that Voldemort laugh into a video, it makes me LOL every single time.

  • @Bad_Llama
    @Bad_Llama Год назад

    The Hermione-Velociraptor mashed up had me dying! Great breakdown of a "What If". I'm really enjoying these. This proves Dobby is a true hero, too, so even more excellent.

  • @darthmagnum2007
    @darthmagnum2007 Год назад +1

    I understand the spider and no car problem, but if Ron's wand isn't broken, he probably had at least a chance to be better in the dueling club, so giving him the benefit of the doubt seems reasonable, despite Lockheart's ineptitude.

  • @AstroPC96
    @AstroPC96 Год назад

    Dobby: *Doesnt interfere with Harry's life!*
    Aragog: GG Bro!

  • @aseasyas8936
    @aseasyas8936 Год назад

    Was listening to the chamber of secrets the other day on audiobook and love your what if scenario videos.
    At the beginning of the book she almost forgets her diary at home instead of taking it to school. This leads to one of a few scenarios where she forgets all about it due to the excitement of the first year of school:
    She takes it to school with her on one of the other years after finding it whilst tidying her bedroom. I think prisoner of Azkaban makes the most sense but goblet of fire would be just as crazy ( and my favourite).

  • @julehisanvhi3333
    @julehisanvhi3333 Год назад

    Won Won raptor is one of the best edits I have seen in a long time

  • @MumboJ
    @MumboJ Год назад

    16:06 Of all the jokes to get a callback I did not expect the Lav-Raptor!
    I really hope someone watches this video first and has no context for that reference. 🤣

  • @mmusya793
    @mmusya793 Год назад

    The cake gag by Dobby was brilliant!!! Legendary 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯💯💯💯💯💯

  • @mienfu9824
    @mienfu9824 Год назад +1

    In the 74th Hunger Games, what if Gale had been reaped instead of Peeta?