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I have a new theory for you to check out …………. Unfortunately it’s about lockheart So if lockheart is gifted with memory charms what’s to say he isn’t casting a glamour charm on himself to look better than he is but all I have for proof is how his hair dulls after he erases his memory in the chamber of secrets
Nobody ever talks about it but Ron winning a life or death chess match against magically enchanted chessmen when he had to protect four pieces instead of one is incredible. That's Grandmaster stuff.
@toeray5864 It just occurred to me while reading your comment. Why Ron didn’t switch the king piece with one of them? Was he unable to do so? The last time I read the books was a long time ago.
@@heinshaaine8153I /think/ in the books, they told the pieces they replaced to go away, and they jumped off the set. Regarding the original question, my guess is one factor, which had two reasonings. Ron chose chess pieces that, at least somewhat, have good agency. Bishop, Rook, and Knight, iirc. I'd imagine part of it is thinking "we're more able to play the game, so we should be pieces that actually are active" (hey, in fact, with how wizards chess pieces have a tendency to do their own will, that might have even been a really smart move, though we never hear about that in that particular game, but we have ron's chess backseatgaming Harry) The second, I could imagine, is just Ron genuinely "wanting" to be a main character, or have his friends be main characters. Even if it's smarter to be a minor character (and despite being the win condition, the king really is just a support piece for most of the game), I could see him wanting, even subconsiously, to have the three of them be the main characters of the game.
when did Ron drown getting the sword? Harry was the one being drowned while getting the sword and Ron pulled him out and saved him by cutting off the horcrux.
I love the films aswell when trelawny passes Ron and gasps then says “your aura is passing dear. Are you in the beyond? I think you are.” And Ron’s just like “Sure.”
I had been waiting for this video for a while and i was very happy with all of it but you still missed the most important thing about the prediction that Ron made about "the grim". He broke it down into a "wonky cross" and "a sun" saying that Harry would "suffer and sacrifice" but he will be happy about it. 4 years later after years of trial and suffering at the hands of Voldemort and his followers, Harry walks himself into the forbidden forest to sacrifice his own life for the sake of the world and he is, in fact, happy to do it.
Actually, Tom did Myrdle Murder: His future murders have the same thing happen to the victims as happened to Myrtle (used as a vessel). And it's so he could always escape to ghost form.
Same. I've commented about it loads of times now. It's not just him. The twins' bet at the world cup. Percy recommends divination specifically as the course to take in chamber. I've been asking for this for years. Looking forward to them realizing it's all the Weasley boys and not just Ron.
In my head cannon I don’t know if Ron is a seer so much as he just genuinely and naturally believes in the power of magic in ways that Harry and Hermione could only learn. I think he just allows magic to guide him. I believe the best wizards do this, they are in-tune with the magic around them, like how Dumbledore, Voldy, and Snape are powerful occlamens even without casting a spell. I think they all just sorta trust their intuition much more than average.
Or and here me out here... both Harry and Hermine are raised in the muggle world and Ron as descendant of wizard family has a deep connection to that world that the other 2 wont share (yet)
It doesn't help that harry lived in a household that very strongly implemented that "magic isnt real!" Where as hermione lived in a WORLD where "magic doesnt exist."
Most of harrys successes work the same way, he is extreamly prone to wild magic and foe example his expeliarmus fetish.. He had no way of knowing how that would woek out, all logic was against that woeking but he went on Instinkt ans it just happened
I also love how your first video of Ron mockingly predicting that Harry would suffer and be happy about it came true as he went into the forest to die at the hands of Voldemort willingly and “gladly” sacrificing himself for his friends and to defeat his enemy.
That apply for too far of the story but within that movie harry did suffer from anger and grief when he learns from gossips of teachers that serius betrayed his parents and now wants to kill him and he feels good about at the end when he found out serius was not real culprit and he wants to reunite with him.
There was a Harry Potter guide book I owned when I was younger that had deep-dive analysises of the series. Part of the analysis included some rules, namely certain chapter numbers consistently being significant, and a very interesting rule concerning Hermione and Ron. Hermione's rule read 'she is usually right, unless she's emotional' and Ron's was 'he is usually wrong, unless he's joking.'
@@supritatalnikar6744 The Ultimate Guide to Harry Potter, or something to that effect. I remember a single book that covered Book One through Book Four, and then a follow-up that covered Book Five. Not sure that this group made anything for Book Six or Book Seven.
@swordseye2 nope not a squib. In the battle of hogwarts she uses magic to throw the crystal balls at death eaters. Just the form of magic she prefers doesn't require wand waving and silly incantations.
Maybe she believes that the future needs to be accepted, if she has seen it? Not something unlikely to do for a seer who believes in her powers and the flow of fate that they would not repair something that broke because of fate I would say
@Boundwithflame23 I've always read it as she throws them in the air and "wooshes" them because it says "like a tennis serve," but I guess that could also just mean fast. Either way, her ability to see the future is her magic, so she still wouldn't be a squib and I'm pretty certain she has a wand so she'd have to be a witch.. also most likely graduating from hogwarts.
Ron works so well as a seer, as his focus is scattered just enough that he's open to visions all the time. So much that it's just become part of his ordinary life.
And it’s not just the light/ sight- the delumjnatior gave them Sight guidance and direction- and rons power of predictions also do that, but he knew they would need more
His other prediction in divinations class book 3 also came true. "You are going to suffer, but you will be happy about it" perfectly explains harrys encounter with dementors. They make him suffer, but there's a part of him that's happy about being able to hear his parents
hmmm its the cassandra connection! from greek mythology, and yes Ron is actually showing the genuine 'signs of the seer's curse of cassandra' forever doomed, cursed by the gods to be ignored in her prophecies, and always be right but never get the credit... much like ron, and much like trelawney herself is the complete opposite of, cause she is not even aware that she is right or even when she predicts truely (even though, her ancestor is.... the ACTUAL CASSANDRA, in universe)
Remember that Ron was raised with stories of "The Boy Who Lived". Of course he'd think that Harry, "the chosen one" was the one destined to find the stone.
I think this is a cool theory, and now I'm imagining Ron suddenly predicting a prophecy at breakfast and everyone around him starring with their jaws dropped. Funny!!!
@@manonthemoon692he explained it in a video that it’s a part of a thing he’s doing where he isn’t allowed to shave for as long as the event is going on, though I forget the exact details
Harry as the chosen one, Hermione as the smart one, Ron as the seer. I dig this trio. That would’ve been cool if Ron could’ve learned to control his sight during the BOH and was the one pulling Harry and Hermione out of the way of spells. You’d see them working together a lot more as a team throughout the seven books.
Well it’s almost like his words have guided them all along, they just didn’t know it. So they couldn’t have done it without Ron if he was never part of them from book 1
the Weasly twins also predict the right outcome in the quidditch world cup match.. In this case it does run in the family Fred and George Weasley in the Harry Potter series bet thirty-seven Galleons, fifteen Sickles, and three Knuts on the Quidditch World Cup. They correctly predicted that Ireland would win but Krum would catch the snitch.
14:20 I always took the "lose a treasured possession" to be when Harry and Ron break up and aren't speaking. I know it's out of order from the "danger of burns", but it feels more like these predictions are just about their near futures and not necessarily chronological.
The slides for the quotes of Ron telling them not to say Voldemort's name in Deathly Hallows, and for Hermione saying Voldemort's name in Order of the Phoenix are reversed, showing Hermione's quote while you're reading Ron's, and vice versa. JSYK.
I always thought his windfall of unexpected gold was when Black transferred all his gold that he inherited from his uncle into his vault, which come even sooner than the tri-wizard tournament
Ron really does have some powerful magical intuition. He KNOWS Harry is in danger in Chamber, and he KNOWS the firebolt is safe for Harry to use. He KNOWS the deluminator is important. He picks divination as a subject, which ultimately turns out to be extremely important for Prisoner.
There is one thing that was missed, and that is the fact that, while Ron doesn't do this himself, he is right about it in a weird sort of a way. The fact is Fred is killed.
Kind of depends on how you interpret it. Yeah after it's revealed Ron says that Fred told him he'd have to wrestle a troll however when Harry asked the question earlier on the train what Ron said was something more along the lines of "I don't know but Fred says it hurts a lot" so if you keep that comment in mind when he later brings up wrestling a troll it's possible he's making a hypothetical based on what Fred said that he's like Fred was going on and on as if I was had would have to wrestle a troll or something which isn't the freezing he used because he did stated as if it was a fact that Fred said that however based on his earlier quote it could be interpreted that he is guessing or exaggerating or feeling in the blanks with that specific phrase. This is entirely less clear but possible. Equally possible as some other replies have suggested if that Fred also is a seer, evidenced by the prediction at the world cup or even by Fred and George deciding to give Harry the Marauder's map when they did under the vague idea that they thought he needed it more than them now. Or even them stealing the map in their first year.
That depends. He couldve seen the court case where tom is on trial and all the evidence points on him, allowing ron to know it was tom and thus turning it into a self fullfilling prophecy
13:43 The "windfall of unexpected gold" could also be referencing the leprechaun gold that rained down on them during the Quidditch World Cup in Goblet of Fire.
Doesn't Ron also say in his homework that he would drown and then he sits there under the water during the trimagic tournament, looking like he drowned?
Harry Potter theory: The invisibility cloak was made through the filidalius charm. So passing it down generations carries the charm on. Dumbledoor gives it to harry - through a note. Which is the same thing he does to reveal grimold place to Harry. And he was a strange ability to see Harry under the cloak
@@firestar4430id argue that voldormort had knowledge that the potters were in hiding but wasn’t able to see them. Knowledge of the cloak isn’t enough to be able to use it
@@toxicviper9961 that's true, but I don't think that closes the matter. Dumbledore never claimed to know everything, and was wrong on several occassions. If he truly thought wizards could make such objects, would he not have attempted it himself with Grindelwald in his youth? Or Grindelwald do so on his own? Wouldn't Voldemort have done that when he was making horcruxes? No point being alive to conquer the world if you're not the strongest, and he's weakened in that state. No way to prove it one way or another, but it makes far more sense for them to have been made by Death imo just because they are so powerful. Just my opinion, you don't have to share it.
It would make sense that if Ron already had this gift, and Dumbledore knew it, he gave Ron the Deluminator, not because it by itself could lead Ron back to Harry and Hermione in the last book, but because it could enlighten his understanding of his own ability to find them using precognition.
@@bennysundance175 Quoth the Mythology I was referring to: The ravishing Cassandra, literally “she who entangles men,” was the daughter of Priam and Hecuba, king and queen of Troy. The god Apollo, enamored of her, granted her the power of prophecy but, when she rejected him, sabotaged that power with a curse that no one would believe her predictions. Except, see... Cassandra Trelawney was a 'Celebrated Seer' :)
I was excited to see this title just because I just listened to the Through the Griffin Door episode where they talked about how Ron's intuition is regularly on point.
I think one of my most favorite and telling moments of Seer Ron is when he’s looking at tea leaves and tells Harry that he’s going to suffer, but be happy about it. Which is true because in the seventh book, he ends up dying i.e. suffering but ultimately happy because Voldemort is defeated, he gets to see Dumbledore again, and he comes back to life.
to everyone saying that ron just has strong intuition, i think that’s a key part of being a seer, no? he makes decisions and predictions that aren’t necessarily rooted in logic but still end up being true. i think harry potter is a universe where intuition actually is magical-especially when following that intuition leads the characters to continuously enact the prophecy.
I think you’re right because that’s how Felix Felicis works. It just kinda gives you intuition about what to do in every situation for the best possible outcome. It’s like it makes you a perfect see’er for the length of the potion. It’s not really making you lucky, it’s nudging you towards the best possible outcome through intuition. “I just feel like Hagrid is… the place to be tonight.”
I've never seen this theory, they make him look like such a dunce but he's like the heart, I always felt like he was the heart and I love all the Weasley's and how close their family is.❤
@@ailynrenee1796 in their recent J Vs Ben video, Quizabelle came up with the idea for the quiz, the it got made into a video. In the video they referred to her by her name "Isabelle" and not "Quizabelle"
I first read about it in a fanfiction, the second installment of a dramatic reading by white squirl, in which they find our Harry Potter books in the Harry Potter universe and decide to read them. In the fanfiction, they specifically notice it when Ron says "He said he did" about Lockheart.
⚠️Off topic from video, day fifteen of asking for what ifs⚠️ 1: What if Dudley went to Hogwarts? I think he'd be a Hufflepuff and be pretty good at defense against the dark arts and I think it would be fun to have him be good at divination cause none of the golden trio are good at or even seem to respect it. 2: What if Aang died with the other Air nomads and one of the other main characters eventually became the Avatar? I think the most interesting would be Sokka and Zuko. 3: What if Prim became the Mockingjay? The only way I see this happening is if Katniss gets caught hunting and either gets killed or sent to the Capital and becomes an avox, a year or two before Prims game so she gets some survival skills not as good as Katniss but better than nothing. 4: So this one is kinda out there maybe it would be fun to do as a April fools thing or something I don't know but here we go... What if you guys made a Harry Potter crossover? Only crossovers with stuff that could feasibly exist in the Harry Potter world, the first ones that pop into my mind is Percy Jackson, Buffy the vampire slayer, BBC's Merlin maybe Supernatural the last one I'm less sure but you get the point like I said this last suggestion is very out there and I don't expect it to go anywhere. 5: There's a lot of fanfic out there where Harry is raised by someone who are not the Dursley's I definitely think you guys should do a full what if for that concept I find the most interesting being Harry is raised by Snape.
Isn't the first prediction about the troll more of a Fred and George prediction? Ron heard them go on and on about it, he wasn't the one to start the idea. Maybe it runs in the family.
It 100% is Fred and George. Just like Ron being right about Myrtle is in no way shape or form indicative of him being a Seer. Myrtle was killed in the past.
I think it's more intuition than seer. Ron may not be the brightest of the 3 but he can put 2 and 2 together with his gut feeling. An example would be a strange book in a bathroom where someone died in a place full of magic items. His gut told him it could be nothing good.
i actually think that that "Seer" power aka superior hunch feeling runs in weasley family. Twins guessed quidditch finale ending perfectly (ireland won, krum got the snitch). Fred telling ron about troll as a scare/joke, yet it stills fulfils. twins instantly knew about marauders map, that it could be useful in future when they were in Filches office and they actually figured it out, how it works. Then they gave it to harry but they still went through whole school whenever they wanted, rarely getting caught. (there was comments, about them getting butterbeer for Gryffindor celebrations, they went to hogsmead and back, with lot of stuff, didnt get caught, they avoided trouble)
Peter shouldn't count toward "13 dining together" unless he's also dining, which I don't think is specified, but is very unlikely since people tend to not want a rat at the dinner table. If you're eating lunch at a table and a friend comes to sit next to you but doesn't also eat lunch, you wouldn't then say that you and your friend ate lunch together.
I mean it's entirely possible that Ron slipped some food into his pocket for "scabbers" and I wouldn't be surprised if Ron was doing that a lot since crookshanks was always chasing "scabbers" so I'm betting Ron would keep him in his pocket and just slip some food in there for him so he could eat and be safe
I mean, I might? It’s not unheard of to say “so and so joined me for lunch” if you sat and talked together while one of you ate. I mean if your spouse was working late and ate after everyone else and you tell your friend “yea my spouse missed dinner” you’re not…. Wrong?
Its been a hot moment since iv seen one of your videos and when i do im usually only listening not watching so.....is that mustache the new normal? Is it fake? I just glanced at the video and saw it i was so surprised 😂 looks good tho i just wasnt expecting it
It's an ongoing challange of his to postpone shaving for a certain amount of time for each new follow his personal social media pages receive (so not counting SuperCarlinBrothers).
I remember re-reading Chamber of Secrets at some point years and years ago and deciding that Ron was a fool prophet because I noticed a lot of his warnings which were treated as ridiculous dramatics but actually were accurate. Ron has always been and remains my favorite character from the books.
In support of this theory, consider Firenze's 5th year statement about telling the future through the stars predicting events further into the future than what Trelawney had been teaching. So they were right with their prophesies, just forced into the wrong timescale
I love the idea of him being a seer. He wants to stand out, have something special. He ends up having a rare ability, but no one, not even himself realizes it. Though what I think actually happened was that his comments/jokes were used as foreshadowing enough times to raise questions.
Actually really like this as it adds even more to the intuition/world smarts Ron has shown time and time again, the homework predictions feel a bit iffy, but the rest as both foreshadowing and for this theory feel really solid
Now that you say so… it could actually be true. Not even the possible fact that “seers need to be descendants of seers to be so” can deny it because absolutely everyone in the wizard isn’t world is related to everyone in the wizard it world xd Him nailing many things, even as a joke, is sus
Wesleays have that clock that point to where family members are, is it from Molly's side? What kind of magic it uses? Even if it wasn't heirloom it was made by someone with some kind of remote viewing spells.
@SCB I barely 2 minutes in and can hear, as clear as day, the air con running in the background. It wouldn't be a problem, except whenever you guys use movie clips, the audio switches. I am currently studying to be an audio engineer, so maybe that's why I can pick it up, but it's very noticeable and distracting.
One thing that always confused me about Fantastic Beasts was that Newt was expelled from Hogwarts,I think it was for "endangering other students" but that's very vague,but what confuses me more is he has a wand and can legally perform magic??? Hagrids wand was snapped and 2,sure he has his famous pink umbrella but he isn't legally aloud to use it,so why is Newt aloud to use his wand and why is it still intacted???
Hagrid was underage and hadn't done his OWLs yet. That's why he's not allowed to do magic. Newt, on the other hand, was expelled after having done his OWLs, which is the minimum needed to be a qualified witch/wizard.
Maybe it's the "crime" committed of the year they were expelled. Murder is obviously a more serious crime than endangerment. Also Hagrid was expelled in 3rd year. Before he took his OWLS. Perhaps Newt was expelled in 6th or 7th year. After his OWLS but before his NEWTS. Fred and George leave school without their NEWTS and even say that they have their OWLS and don't need NEWTS.
I think I remember them addressing it in the movie : Grindelwald (as Graves) says when he's interrogating Newt that Dumbledore spoke for him at his trial, and got him the privilege to keep his wand. Knowing Dumbledore and how he defended Hagrid and got him a job at hogwarts, that's quite propable, and I think Hagrid's harsher treatment essentially came down to the fact that he's half-giant, while Newt comes from a well-known wizard family. The ministry's prejudices must have made it harder for Dumbledore to defend Hagrid than Newt 🤔 At least that's what suppose ^^
Hey guys, greetings from Germany! I had a nice idea for a kind of game to play with you guys. Cat reads to you a random passage from one of the books, something of the "Normal daily Hogwarts-Life", classes, Quidditch s.o., your job is to find out, from which book this sequence is You see a whiteboard with 3-4 possible answers, a chaper name with the book title and a timer. The longer Cat reads, the fewer points you can make, if you get the right answer - but if you answer too quickly, you eliminate an answers for your oppoment, who has to guess for half of the remaining points I think, this would be something nice and fresh and faar more challeninging, than you might think
Love the new look and facial hair. Also the whole Ron situation is a common thing that happens when writing down a novel. The writer will be making up garbage for the characters to say in the moment. But when they get stuck on their own story later those ideas are already floating around in their head and they often get used.
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You guys got the Voldemort name quotes mixed up.
I have a new theory for you to check out …………. Unfortunately it’s about lockheart
So if lockheart is gifted with memory charms what’s to say he isn’t casting a glamour charm on himself to look better than he is but all I have for proof is how his hair dulls after he erases his memory in the chamber of secrets
As much as I love the fake premonitions bit in Goblet of Fire, Ron instantly nailing that Riddle killed Myrtle is absolutely priceless.
You mean Myrtled Murder?
He also got a lot of OWLs, and got credit for saving the school from a beast.. all three of those were spot on. 😁
@@SasskiF Did he really SAVE them from a beast when he legit just stopped using said beast? It's literally his fault the beast was loose.
@@MissRockabellaHart "He got credit" is what I said
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Nobody ever talks about it but Ron winning a life or death chess match against magically enchanted chessmen when he had to protect four pieces instead of one is incredible. That's Grandmaster stuff.
@toeray5864 It just occurred to me while reading your comment. Why Ron didn’t switch the king piece with one of them? Was he unable to do so? The last time I read the books was a long time ago.
@balloons4419 are you asking why Ron didn't choose the king? If that's the case, he specifically chose the knight
@@captainspaulding5963 he's asking why, not what he did.
@@balloons4419 The missing pieces where chosen prior to them entering, if i remember correctly
@@heinshaaine8153I /think/ in the books, they told the pieces they replaced to go away, and they jumped off the set.
Regarding the original question, my guess is one factor, which had two reasonings.
Ron chose chess pieces that, at least somewhat, have good agency. Bishop, Rook, and Knight, iirc.
I'd imagine part of it is thinking "we're more able to play the game, so we should be pieces that actually are active" (hey, in fact, with how wizards chess pieces have a tendency to do their own will, that might have even been a really smart move, though we never hear about that in that particular game, but we have ron's chess backseatgaming Harry)
The second, I could imagine, is just Ron genuinely "wanting" to be a main character, or have his friends be main characters. Even if it's smarter to be a minor character (and despite being the win condition, the king really is just a support piece for most of the game), I could see him wanting, even subconsiously, to have the three of them be the main characters of the game.
Ron during that homework also predicts he'll drown twice, 1. during goblet's second task, 2. getting the sword of Gryffindor deathly hallows
YES!!! I was searching the comments looking for someone else who noticed that!
when did Ron drown getting the sword? Harry was the one being drowned while getting the sword and Ron pulled him out and saved him by cutting off the horcrux.
@@MehwhatevrI think the prediction is Harry drowns twice
I love the films aswell when trelawny passes Ron and gasps then says “your aura is passing dear. Are you in the beyond? I think you are.” And Ron’s just like “Sure.”
The seer saw that Ron was a seer who saw the future
Oh yeah! We all thought she was crazy saying he’s dieing, but no she just could feel/see that his aura traveled through realms
@venrox7053 I think the quote is supposed to be pulsing not passing. It's the weird voice she uses that makes it sound odd.
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Gotta love the fact that J spent a whole 40 seconds trying to say
"Because Tom did murder Myrtle"
I think you mean Murtle Myrder.
And then after finally saying it, immediately messed up again by calling hagrid "haggard"
@@TheRealBritfor some reason that made me think of when Hagrid said: "mad n hairy? You wouldn't be talkin' bout me now, would ya?" Lol
I had been waiting for this video for a while and i was very happy with all of it but you still missed the most important thing about the prediction that Ron made about "the grim". He broke it down into a "wonky cross" and "a sun" saying that Harry would "suffer and sacrifice" but he will be happy about it. 4 years later after years of trial and suffering at the hands of Voldemort and his followers, Harry walks himself into the forbidden forest to sacrifice his own life for the sake of the world and he is, in fact, happy to do it.
If I remember correctly, that is reversed in the book. Harry tells that prediction to Ron.
Bingo @@Sucha_Hufflepuff
I can't believe Tom went and Myrdled Murter
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He did myrtle 💀
He committed myrtlecide.
Actually, Tom did Myrdle Murder: His future murders have the same thing happen to the victims as happened to Myrtle (used as a vessel). And it's so he could always escape to ghost form.
He did indeed Myrtled Murder.
I’ve been saying for YEARS that ron has some kind of intuition / gut feeling / random suggestion that leads the gang in the right direction everytime
My wife and I agree that Ron is definitely a seer. He repeatedly says things that actually happen. Like he knows it’s going to happen.
He is a pisces ♓️
I think it was because he was brought up as a wizard always aware of that world so has more experience than Harry or Hermione
@@sephoraaponza7113I swear astrology is racism for white chicks.
Same. I've commented about it loads of times now. It's not just him. The twins' bet at the world cup. Percy recommends divination specifically as the course to take in chamber. I've been asking for this for years. Looking forward to them realizing it's all the Weasley boys and not just Ron.
In my head cannon I don’t know if Ron is a seer so much as he just genuinely and naturally believes in the power of magic in ways that Harry and Hermione could only learn.
I think he just allows magic to guide him. I believe the best wizards do this, they are in-tune with the magic around them, like how Dumbledore, Voldy, and Snape are powerful occlamens even without casting a spell. I think they all just sorta trust their intuition much more than average.
so, the force?
They DO indeed say that the Weasleys have been extra-particularly gifted wizards through the ages
Or and here me out here... both Harry and Hermine are raised in the muggle world and Ron as descendant of wizard family has a deep connection to that world that the other 2 wont share (yet)
It doesn't help that harry lived in a household that very strongly implemented that "magic isnt real!"
Where as hermione lived in a WORLD where "magic doesnt exist."
Most of harrys successes work the same way, he is extreamly prone to wild magic and foe example his expeliarmus fetish.. He had no way of knowing how that would woek out, all logic was against that woeking but he went on Instinkt ans it just happened
I also love how your first video of Ron mockingly predicting that Harry would suffer and be happy about it came true as he went into the forest to die at the hands of Voldemort willingly and “gladly” sacrificing himself for his friends and to defeat his enemy.
That apply for too far of the story but within that movie harry did suffer from anger and grief when he learns from gossips of teachers that serius betrayed his parents and now wants to kill him and he feels good about at the end when he found out serius was not real culprit and he wants to reunite with him.
Oh I was thinking about when he was getting kissed by demontirs but was happy cause he saw himself saving himself and his uncle.
There was a Harry Potter guide book I owned when I was younger that had deep-dive analysises of the series. Part of the analysis included some rules, namely certain chapter numbers consistently being significant, and a very interesting rule concerning Hermione and Ron. Hermione's rule read 'she is usually right, unless she's emotional' and Ron's was 'he is usually wrong, unless he's joking.'
I have the same book. And that was one of the truest things in it.
Wow! That is indeed right! Could you tell us the name of the book?
@@supritatalnikar6744 The Ultimate Guide to Harry Potter, or something to that effect. I remember a single book that covered Book One through Book Four, and then a follow-up that covered Book Five. Not sure that this group made anything for Book Six or Book Seven.
'Please take a blue cup, I'm rather fond of the pink ones, and I can't be bothered to cast reparo'
Does she ever cast any magic ever? I'm thinking maybe squib?
@swordseye2 nope not a squib. In the battle of hogwarts she uses magic to throw the crystal balls at death eaters. Just the form of magic she prefers doesn't require wand waving and silly incantations.
@@felicityanne979I thought she just had a pile of them in her arms and threw them manually one by one. Might have to read that bit again
Maybe she believes that the future needs to be accepted, if she has seen it? Not something unlikely to do for a seer who believes in her powers and the flow of fate that they would not repair something that broke because of fate I would say
@Boundwithflame23 I've always read it as she throws them in the air and "wooshes" them because it says "like a tennis serve," but I guess that could also just mean fast. Either way, her ability to see the future is her magic, so she still wouldn't be a squib and I'm pretty certain she has a wand so she'd have to be a witch.. also most likely graduating from hogwarts.
He must feel it like instinct, rather than seeing dreams.
Ron works so well as a seer, as his focus is scattered just enough that he's open to visions all the time. So much that it's just become part of his ordinary life.
Ron knew not to trust something he couldn't see where it keeps it's brain.
Perhaps Dumbledore knew. When he left Ron the Deluminator, perhaps it was because he knew Ron would be able to see when his friends needed him most.
And it’s not just the light/ sight- the delumjnatior gave them Sight guidance and direction- and rons power of predictions also do that, but he knew they would need more
The Deathly Hallows and Order of the Pheonix quotes about Voldemort's name ended up in eachother's spots
yeah
also you need to check your grammar no rudeness intended
@@timmy3.0it’s a RUclips comment you don’t need to use pRoPER gRaMMer if U don’t want to.. and yes it was clearly intended to be rude and it was.
@@timmy3.0there are no grammatical errors in their comment… perhaps you’re referring to the minor spelling errors?
@@caseygreyson4178the lack of space.
His other prediction in divinations class book 3 also came true. "You are going to suffer, but you will be happy about it" perfectly explains harrys encounter with dementors. They make him suffer, but there's a part of him that's happy about being able to hear his parents
Harry is the one who says that in the books
hmmm its the cassandra connection! from greek mythology, and yes Ron is actually showing the genuine 'signs of the seer's curse of cassandra' forever doomed, cursed by the gods to be ignored in her prophecies, and always be right but never get the credit... much like ron, and much like trelawney herself is the complete opposite of, cause she is not even aware that she is right or even when she predicts truely
(even though, her ancestor is.... the ACTUAL CASSANDRA, in universe)
You forgot Ron's prediction on Scabbers/Peter when he introduced Scabbers to Harry. "This is Scabbers btw, pathetic isn't he."
Remember that Ron was raised with stories of "The Boy Who Lived". Of course he'd think that Harry, "the chosen one" was the one destined to find the stone.
I think this is a cool theory, and now I'm imagining Ron suddenly predicting a prophecy at breakfast and everyone around him starring with their jaws dropped. Funny!!!
I've been saying this for 20 years. It's always the off-hand comments that turn out true for both Ron and Trelawney.
mustache lookin like the pringles man
Is that mustache fake? It just looks wierd. Or maybe it’s because it popped out of nowhere lol like where did that come from and why lol
@@manonthemoon692he explained it in a video that it’s a part of a thing he’s doing where he isn’t allowed to shave for as long as the event is going on, though I forget the exact details
It’s so cute!
@@sandrarose7129ayo-
I love it!
Harry as the chosen one, Hermione as the smart one, Ron as the seer. I dig this trio. That would’ve been cool if Ron could’ve learned to control his sight during the BOH and was the one pulling Harry and Hermione out of the way of spells. You’d see them working together a lot more as a team throughout the seven books.
Well it’s almost like his words have guided them all along, they just didn’t know it. So they couldn’t have done it without Ron if he was never part of them from book 1
the Weasly twins also predict the right outcome in the quidditch world cup match.. In this case it does run in the family
Fred and George Weasley in the Harry Potter series bet thirty-seven Galleons, fifteen Sickles, and three Knuts on the Quidditch World Cup. They correctly predicted that Ireland would win but Krum would catch the snitch.
OMG Brennan jumping out with the "Get in the comments!" Legit made me choke on my lunch xD
I saw this comment before I watched the video and now I'm upset he wasn't actually in the video 😭😭😭
@@olaftheblack2012 Dude, what are you talking about? He literally showed up!
It's at 5:53
14:20 I always took the "lose a treasured possession" to be when Harry and Ron break up and aren't speaking. I know it's out of order from the "danger of burns", but it feels more like these predictions are just about their near futures and not necessarily chronological.
The slides for the quotes of Ron telling them not to say Voldemort's name in Deathly Hallows, and for Hermione saying Voldemort's name in Order of the Phoenix are reversed, showing Hermione's quote while you're reading Ron's, and vice versa. JSYK.
I was about to say the same thing, but saw that you already commented on it 😊
I was also going to comment that, but wanted to look if someone else noticed too 😂
I always thought his windfall of unexpected gold was when Black transferred all his gold that he inherited from his uncle into his vault, which come even sooner than the tri-wizard tournament
Ron really does have some powerful magical intuition. He KNOWS Harry is in danger in Chamber, and he KNOWS the firebolt is safe for Harry to use. He KNOWS the deluminator is important. He picks divination as a subject, which ultimately turns out to be extremely important for Prisoner.
"A windfall, unexpected gold."
Leprechaun gold at the Quidditch World Cup?
Yup. Unexpected things happen. 😊
“The path of the butterflies beckon with ethereal grace” 😂😂 That was so hilarious!
Poor Ron, so underrated. Finally getting some recognition! 😄💖
Ron quite literally did not do any predicting about the troll though, he just said what he heard.
Right! If anyone gets credit for that being a prediction…it would be Fred!
Maybe it runs in the family?
@@swordseye2it does. Fred has mastered the ability. Look at goblet of fire
There is one thing that was missed, and that is the fact that, while Ron doesn't do this himself, he is right about it in a weird sort of a way. The fact is Fred is killed.
Kind of depends on how you interpret it.
Yeah after it's revealed Ron says that Fred told him he'd have to wrestle a troll however when Harry asked the question earlier on the train what Ron said was something more along the lines of "I don't know but Fred says it hurts a lot" so if you keep that comment in mind when he later brings up wrestling a troll it's possible he's making a hypothetical based on what Fred said that he's like Fred was going on and on as if I was had would have to wrestle a troll or something which isn't the freezing he used because he did stated as if it was a fact that Fred said that however based on his earlier quote it could be interpreted that he is guessing or exaggerating or feeling in the blanks with that specific phrase. This is entirely less clear but possible.
Equally possible as some other replies have suggested if that Fred also is a seer, evidenced by the prediction at the world cup or even by Fred and George deciding to give Harry the Marauder's map when they did under the vague idea that they thought he needed it more than them now. Or even them stealing the map in their first year.
It would explain why he is so good at chess
J for Trelawney 🔮
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J for Luna. Every time he does the voice, I make like Fred and die laughing.
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Is that the pringles man?
That's Mr Pringle to you
Hahaha😂😂
Mr J Pringle
Murdling Murder is definitely a phrase I'm going to use from now on
Ron being right about Tom murdering Murtle is not seeing the future, it is seeing the past.
That depends. He couldve seen the court case where tom is on trial and all the evidence points on him, allowing ron to know it was tom and thus turning it into a self fullfilling prophecy
no hes predicting when harry learns thatt tom myrtled murder
13:43 The "windfall of unexpected gold" could also be referencing the leprechaun gold that rained down on them during the Quidditch World Cup in Goblet of Fire.
Doesn't Ron also say in his homework that he would drown and then he sits there under the water during the trimagic tournament, looking like he drowned?
Let's admit it. The Ministry is like one of five places to work in the Wizarding UK if you want to avoid a career in retail.
WOWOWOW The Brennan clip cross-over has me freaking out! Now I so badly want to see J and Ben on like Um Actually or something! :O
"Because Tom DID Myrtle"
Fanfic writers: "Write that down, write that down!"
Being a strategist and being good at chess are 2 wildly different things
J not being able to say “Murdered Myrtle” is like my new favorite thing in this channel 😂
It's been a while since you guys did a Ron centred video. Definitely more of that, please 😂❤
Was not prepared for the Brennan Lee Mulligan jumpscare.
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Harry Potter theory: The invisibility cloak was made through the filidalius charm. So passing it down generations carries the charm on. Dumbledoor gives it to harry - through a note. Which is the same thing he does to reveal grimold place to Harry. And he was a strange ability to see Harry under the cloak
But all of the death eaters know about the cloak by the time deathly hallows rolls around?
All three of the deathly hallow objects were supposed to be made by Death, right? The three brothers didn't make the objects themselves
@@firestar4430id argue that voldormort had knowledge that the potters were in hiding but wasn’t able to see them. Knowledge of the cloak isn’t enough to be able to use it
@@AimeeHope89dumbledoor believes they were powerful objects made my the brothers and not death himself.
@@toxicviper9961 that's true, but I don't think that closes the matter. Dumbledore never claimed to know everything, and was wrong on several occassions. If he truly thought wizards could make such objects, would he not have attempted it himself with Grindelwald in his youth? Or Grindelwald do so on his own? Wouldn't Voldemort have done that when he was making horcruxes? No point being alive to conquer the world if you're not the strongest, and he's weakened in that state. No way to prove it one way or another, but it makes far more sense for them to have been made by Death imo just because they are so powerful. Just my opinion, you don't have to share it.
It would make sense that if Ron already had this gift, and Dumbledore knew it, he gave Ron the Deluminator, not because it by itself could lead Ron back to Harry and Hermione in the last book, but because it could enlighten his understanding of his own ability to find them using precognition.
Omg a brennan lee mulligan and SCB crossover 😮. I think Im in love!
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5:52 NICE. Love that it’s still being sort of quoted all these years later
I’m gonna be honest, I was not expecting the Brennan Lee Mulligan clip! What a fantastic surprise to know that y’all are fans of Dropout as well!
A seer who is never taken seriously, believed, or recognized is a 'Cassandra', it is a VERY old trope. >.>
Cassandra Trelawney is actually related to Sybille trelawney
@@bennysundance175 Quoth the Mythology I was referring to: The ravishing Cassandra, literally “she who entangles men,” was the daughter of Priam and Hecuba, king and queen of Troy. The god Apollo, enamored of her, granted her the power of prophecy but, when she rejected him, sabotaged that power with a curse that no one would believe her predictions.
Except, see... Cassandra Trelawney was a 'Celebrated Seer' :)
@@zephodb I know. But i Think Sybill is also based of of that, because her predictions are not taken seriously a lot of the times.
Loved the video! Did notice a hum in the background, and two of the quotes were switched from the audio, though.
that hum distracts from the fantastic content... it's been going for a number of videos now.
I noticed the quotes as well
I was excited to see this title just because I just listened to the Through the Griffin Door episode where they talked about how Ron's intuition is regularly on point.
You're collecting $200 with that Moustache my Friend lol.
Respect and keep up the epic work.
I think one of my most favorite and telling moments of Seer Ron is when he’s looking at tea leaves and tells Harry that he’s going to suffer, but be happy about it. Which is true because in the seventh book, he ends up dying i.e. suffering but ultimately happy because Voldemort is defeated, he gets to see Dumbledore again, and he comes back to life.
to everyone saying that ron just has strong intuition, i think that’s a key part of being a seer, no? he makes decisions and predictions that aren’t necessarily rooted in logic but still end up being true. i think harry potter is a universe where intuition actually is magical-especially when following that intuition leads the characters to continuously enact the prophecy.
I think you’re right because that’s how Felix Felicis works. It just kinda gives you intuition about what to do in every situation for the best possible outcome. It’s like it makes you a perfect see’er for the length of the potion. It’s not really making you lucky, it’s nudging you towards the best possible outcome through intuition. “I just feel like Hagrid is… the place to be tonight.”
There's a pretty substantial difference between having "good intuition" and actually actively seeing/predicting the future
As someone who’s followed dropout since college humor, the Brennan clip threw me for a loop! had to double check what video I was watching 😅
4:30 I'm only supporting you for Trelawney if you keep the mustache and the costume is just a robe and a wig
I've never seen this theory, they make him look like such a dunce but he's like the heart, I always felt like he was the heart and I love all the Weasley's and how close their family is.❤
The part about murdling Myrtle got me good omg 🤣🤣 also #JayForTrivani and even though she's not in the video, still #JusticeForQuizabelle
"justiceforquizabelle"? What have i missed?
@@ailynrenee1796 in their recent J Vs Ben video, Quizabelle came up with the idea for the quiz, the it got made into a video. In the video they referred to her by her name "Isabelle" and not "Quizabelle"
@@DarkMewtwo1994 oh, for shame! I second your hashtag! #JusticeForQuizabelle
Thank you for your support soldiers 🫡
@@itchybelle any time Quizzy!
I first read about it in a fanfiction, the second installment of a dramatic reading by white squirl, in which they find our Harry Potter books in the Harry Potter universe and decide to read them. In the fanfiction, they specifically notice it when Ron says "He said he did" about Lockheart.
⚠️Off topic from video, day fifteen of asking for what ifs⚠️
1: What if Dudley went to Hogwarts? I think he'd be a Hufflepuff and be pretty good at defense against the dark arts and I think it would be fun to have him be good at divination cause none of the golden trio are good at or even seem to respect it.
2: What if Aang died with the other Air nomads and one of the other main characters eventually became the Avatar? I think the most interesting would be Sokka and Zuko.
3: What if Prim became the Mockingjay? The only way I see this happening is if Katniss gets caught hunting and either gets killed or sent to the Capital and becomes an avox, a year or two before Prims game so she gets some survival skills not as good as Katniss but better than nothing.
4: So this one is kinda out there maybe it would be fun to do as a April fools thing or something I don't know but here we go... What if you guys made a Harry Potter crossover? Only crossovers with stuff that could feasibly exist in the Harry Potter world, the first ones that pop into my mind is Percy Jackson, Buffy the vampire slayer, BBC's Merlin maybe Supernatural the last one I'm less sure but you get the point like I said this last suggestion is very out there and I don't expect it to go anywhere.
5: There's a lot of fanfic out there where Harry is raised by someone who are not the Dursley's I definitely think you guys should do a full what if for that concept I find the most interesting being Harry is raised by Snape.
9:27 hahaha. I suddenly remembered that audiobook voice artist that had difficulties in pronouncing the word “pocketed”. 🤣
Isn't the first prediction about the troll more of a Fred and George prediction? Ron heard them go on and on about it, he wasn't the one to start the idea. Maybe it runs in the family.
That was my immediate reaction. If it was a prediction, it was Fred's not Ron's
It 100% is Fred and George. Just like Ron being right about Myrtle is in no way shape or form indicative of him being a Seer. Myrtle was killed in the past.
Loving the Jacques Ze Whipper cosplay
I think it's more intuition than seer. Ron may not be the brightest of the 3 but he can put 2 and 2 together with his gut feeling. An example would be a strange book in a bathroom where someone died in a place full of magic items. His gut told him it could be nothing good.
Seers have great intuition! It's a part of being a seer.
@@EsoteriaHealing no, no it isn't. Intuition has nothing to do with getting mystical visions of the future
i actually think that that "Seer" power aka superior hunch feeling runs in weasley family. Twins guessed quidditch finale ending perfectly (ireland won, krum got the snitch). Fred telling ron about troll as a scare/joke, yet it stills fulfils. twins instantly knew about marauders map, that it could be useful in future when they were in Filches office and they actually figured it out, how it works. Then they gave it to harry but they still went through whole school whenever they wanted, rarely getting caught. (there was comments, about them getting butterbeer for Gryffindor celebrations, they went to hogsmead and back, with lot of stuff, didnt get caught, they avoided trouble)
Peter shouldn't count toward "13 dining together" unless he's also dining, which I don't think is specified, but is very unlikely since people tend to not want a rat at the dinner table.
If you're eating lunch at a table and a friend comes to sit next to you but doesn't also eat lunch, you wouldn't then say that you and your friend ate lunch together.
I mean it's entirely possible that Ron slipped some food into his pocket for "scabbers" and I wouldn't be surprised if Ron was doing that a lot since crookshanks was always chasing "scabbers" so I'm betting Ron would keep him in his pocket and just slip some food in there for him so he could eat and be safe
I mean, I might? It’s not unheard of to say “so and so joined me for lunch” if you sat and talked together while one of you ate. I mean if your spouse was working late and ate after everyone else and you tell your friend “yea my spouse missed dinner” you’re not…. Wrong?
These are companions at a magical school. Scabbers, and any other rat/cat/owl would be welcomed.
Anyone else want a j and ben audiobook. I'd buy it in a heartbeat😂😂😂
BleeM sighting! Incredible!
I love reading Seer Ron fanfics, they're so fun to read!
(Also, this is why not mixing your T and D sounds are so important). Love the video guys
Yo, J, Love the Mustache!! Rocking it Brother!
Has anyone noticed that at 11:50 its the wrong text? like it dosent like up to what is said.
Its been a hot moment since iv seen one of your videos and when i do im usually only listening not watching so.....is that mustache the new normal? Is it fake? I just glanced at the video and saw it i was so surprised 😂 looks good tho i just wasnt expecting it
It's an actual moustache. I think it looks good.
It's an ongoing challange of his to postpone shaving for a certain amount of time for each new follow his personal social media pages receive (so not counting SuperCarlinBrothers).
@@Devlinator61116 if that's the case, he DEFINITELY should have went full beard.
That blooper was the most enjoyable part of this video.
Loving the stache j! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
J is incredibly dashing with his mustache
I remember re-reading Chamber of Secrets at some point years and years ago and deciding that Ron was a fool prophet because I noticed a lot of his warnings which were treated as ridiculous dramatics but actually were accurate. Ron has always been and remains my favorite character from the books.
I was not expecting to see Brenan Lee Mulligan in a Super Carlin Brother's video. Thank you, that was fantastic
In support of this theory, consider Firenze's 5th year statement about telling the future through the stars predicting events further into the future than what Trelawney had been teaching. So they were right with their prophesies, just forced into the wrong timescale
Love your theories guys! Amazing thumbnail too🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love the idea of him being a seer. He wants to stand out, have something special. He ends up having a rare ability, but no one, not even himself realizes it.
Though what I think actually happened was that his comments/jokes were used as foreshadowing enough times to raise questions.
So Ron is from freeza planet 419 😂 Ron can see The futureee 😂
No one ever goes to Freeza Planet 419… not since its species miraculously repopulated.
@@aqwkingchampion13 😂
Darn you, I immediately heard that voice in my head.
Actually really like this as it adds even more to the intuition/world smarts Ron has shown time and time again, the homework predictions feel a bit iffy, but the rest as both foreshadowing and for this theory feel really solid
Now that you say so… it could actually be true. Not even the possible fact that “seers need to be descendants of seers to be so” can deny it because absolutely everyone in the wizard isn’t world is related to everyone in the wizard it world xd
Him nailing many things, even as a joke, is sus
Wesleays have that clock that point to where family members are, is it from Molly's side? What kind of magic it uses? Even if it wasn't heirloom it was made by someone with some kind of remote viewing spells.
@@MrDUneven it's a tracking spell, just like what was used on the Marauders Map
Ron is related to Matilda weasley, a greatx4 aunt, who was a professor and a seer.
@SCB I barely 2 minutes in and can hear, as clear as day, the air con running in the background. It wouldn't be a problem, except whenever you guys use movie clips, the audio switches. I am currently studying to be an audio engineer, so maybe that's why I can pick it up, but it's very noticeable and distracting.
Buzzing in the background for recent videos?
Yesss, have been waiting to see someone discuss this!!
8:45 Ok, normally I decry YT's nonsense censorship, but here a "Tom did unalive Myrtle" would've been useful. Lol.
alternatively, kill
No, it absolutely would not. He KILLED Myrtle, it was a vicious act and should not be sugar coated.
I CAN SEE THE FUTUREEEE
Goten and Trunks become a guuuy!
One thing that always confused me about Fantastic Beasts was that Newt was expelled from Hogwarts,I think it was for "endangering other students" but that's very vague,but what confuses me more is he has a wand and can legally perform magic??? Hagrids wand was snapped and 2,sure he has his famous pink umbrella but he isn't legally aloud to use it,so why is Newt aloud to use his wand and why is it still intacted???
Allowed*
You can just... buy a new wand, couldn't you..?
@@soraprince5336 I'm pretty sure its implied if your expelled,thats it. Otherwise whats the point of snapping them in half
Hagrid was underage and hadn't done his OWLs yet. That's why he's not allowed to do magic. Newt, on the other hand, was expelled after having done his OWLs, which is the minimum needed to be a qualified witch/wizard.
Maybe it's the "crime" committed of the year they were expelled. Murder is obviously a more serious crime than endangerment. Also Hagrid was expelled in 3rd year. Before he took his OWLS. Perhaps Newt was expelled in 6th or 7th year. After his OWLS but before his NEWTS. Fred and George leave school without their NEWTS and even say that they have their OWLS and don't need NEWTS.
I think I remember them addressing it in the movie : Grindelwald (as Graves) says when he's interrogating Newt that Dumbledore spoke for him at his trial, and got him the privilege to keep his wand. Knowing Dumbledore and how he defended Hagrid and got him a job at hogwarts, that's quite propable, and I think Hagrid's harsher treatment essentially came down to the fact that he's half-giant, while Newt comes from a well-known wizard family. The ministry's prejudices must have made it harder for Dumbledore to defend Hagrid than Newt 🤔
At least that's what suppose ^^
6:28 I'd argue that Ron's just genuinely smart, but you know that'd be as crazy as saying that Hermione is arrogant.
Love the vids!
2 quotes are mixed up 11:46
I thought that! Didn’t know if it was my internet
Lol, the entire time Jay was trying to say murder Myrtle, lol I just kept screaming at my phone "JUST SAY KILL!!! 😂"
Hey guys, greetings from Germany!
I had a nice idea for a kind of game to play with you guys. Cat reads to you a random passage from one of the books, something of the "Normal daily Hogwarts-Life", classes, Quidditch s.o., your job is to find out, from which book this sequence is
You see a whiteboard with 3-4 possible answers, a chaper name with the book title and a timer. The longer Cat reads, the fewer points you can make, if you get the right answer - but if you answer too quickly, you eliminate an answers for your oppoment, who has to guess for half of the remaining points
I think, this would be something nice and fresh and faar more challeninging, than you might think
Love the new look and facial hair.
Also the whole Ron situation is a common thing that happens when writing down a novel. The writer will be making up garbage for the characters to say in the moment. But when they get stuck on their own story later those ideas are already floating around in their head and they often get used.