How New York Hip Hop Lost Its Cool
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Culture doesn’t just happen. Instead, it’s born out of circumstances that provide the exact conditions needed for growth. In hip-hop, the seeds of the revolution that’d give us the world’s most popular musical artform couldn’t have sprung up anywhere other than New York City, New York. Born of the ingenuity that comes with adapting to your surroundings, hip-hop was formed at the block parties held in the projects of the Bronx. From there, its breakbeats and call & response rhyming couplets were adopted by youths from Queensbridge, Harlem and Brooklyn. By the 90s, artists such as The Wu Tang Clan had taken that defiant spirit and brought it out to Staten Island and as the genre became a fixture of the musical landscape and demanded its respect, New York cemented itself as the undisputed capital of the culture. Standing as tall as any of the monuments in the city’s skyline, New York vibrated with the energy of the Big Daddy Kane’s to the Biggie’s, Nas’, Jay Z’s KRS One’s and DMX’s. Yet little by little, its position as the point of origin for hip-hop seemed to hold less and less weight as it was overshadowed by other regional scenes that’d dispossess them of their crown.
#HipHopMadness #50Cent #6ix9ine
/ hiphopmadness
/ hiphopmadness
Narrated by: Spencer Pearman
Written by: Robert Blair
Edited by: Roman Bill
Music by: Josh Petruccio
Business Inquiries: contactHipHopMadness@gmail.com
© HIPHOPMADNESS 2022. All rights reserved
NY put too much hope on Bobby Shmurda failing to realize his music is shmediocre.
dude was a flash in the pan and the time for him to pop off is past. he ain't that guy for NY hip hop no matter how much of a real one he is.
The stuff he's released since getting out is ok-ish but nothing hot that's gonna blow up the scene, shit's changed way too much since he went away
Shmediocre is crazy 😂. But facts tho. I knew Bobby wasn't gonna be the same. It feels like everytime we get a little wave going, something happens or it just doesn't stick
Bobby and Rowdy are some of the worst rappers that have a big name.
@@truthistruth4186 disrespect
@@mrlofi333 I'm not lying tho. I've never heard them spit a line worth listening too. It's like they don't even try at all. People just like the jail story between them. They're terrible man
@@truthistruth4186 nah both rowdy and Bobby's energy and charisma have value; I think they need the direction and feeling that pop had to really go to the next level. not sure that can be replicated though
As a NY native myself it's wild how NY rappers constantly rap about brotherhood in the city and in its boroughs yet constantly beef with each other.
NY overrated as hell. City is dirty, y’all are rude, everything is expensive, the youth and young adults talk so much shit but never back it up, y’all act a fool for no reason. And most of y’all New Yorkers are coming down to Florida like bruh nobody here want yall! For those New Yorkers moving down here to Florida are basically gonna turn the best state in the US into shit hole New York City
Hip hop is about competition. It was Bree in the back of battling
nobody in 2022 said the word brotherhood in any rap song wyo
A good limelight like myself as a west coast fam. But respect for the east
Not even boro v boro- it was block by block and now it’s building to building
Joe Budden is funny man. Guy really said "He and 50 were the end of New York", like he ain't just a one hit wonder.
Peeped that, slipped himself in like we wouldn't notice LMAO💀
It's because of ebro
He’s always doing that smh
LMAO!!! 😂🤣
He is not do your homework
Andre 3000 is really the goat of all the southern artists. What a legend he stood in front of a mean crowd of new Yorkers in 95 during east coast west coast beef and he told them niggas then the south got something to say. That type of attitude and rebellion is exactly what hip hop is to it's core. The south took over with hard work and talent. Facts.
🙌🏼
Difference is, Andre could actually rap. These new nigga’s are just feasting on the dead corpse of the culture. They’re clout chasers, not real emcees. No where near the same category of an Outkast, Gheto Boys, or even Lil Wayne and Rick Ross.
Crazy I never knew that until I watched the Hiphop series on Netflix. I was like... Shhyyyt okay Andre
He also came out at a time when lyricism was everything. Even in the south, they had to bring the heat. 8 Ball & MJG, UGK, Scarface, etc.
@@Messiah_Black I agree these new rappers don't rap that good. But in today's market you don't have to.
After 50 was shot he was blackballed and couldn’t even get a record deal in New York. He was signed to Interscope which is a west coast label, Dr. Dre from California and Eminem from Detroit. The music industry side of New York barely fucked with 50. Unlike other artists 50 could not represent unity and brotherhood due to real street issues and the threats on his life. Everyone who did not fuck with him was already winning so he had to divide and conquer. The problem is that New York did not groom their artist and looked everywhere else for talent rather their own backyard. The south took over music then the internet came and now everyone sounds the fucking same. 50 cent is definitely one of the last authentic superstars that represented New York hip hop but he is not the reason for its decline.
You forget ASAP Rocky and Pop Smoke
Y'all cats don't know nothing about ny artist y'all continue to listen to lil uzi
And pop was suppose to be the next one to take over ny sip to that man solute
@@VivoZzz No, they cool but don’t represent the “sound” of NY rap
NYC fucked w 50 he had the streets in a chokehold after he came back from that shooting. It's bc of Ja Rule, Irv Gotti & the street influence of Supreme McGriff is what lead him to be blackballed
Big L would have been one of the greatest if he had stayed alive.
Thats a FACT!!!
his flow is Rap!
💯💯💯
Facts him and Pun
Dude would have been like AZ or Jadakiss. Loved in NY and on the East Coast but dude wasn't skilled enough to lock the West Coast and South.
Big pun was nice also
Pop Smoke was gonna take NY to a different level man. It’s been said so many times but he really was a new incarnation of 50. The way he moved and everything. Only difference is, Fif had a grip on the streets so they knew what time it was, he had a small army behind him, Pop unfortunately got caught slipping. It really would’ve been something to see him take over the culture same way Fif did.
that's a great perspective cause it's the truth!!
@@MrsBraxtonChrist Pop smoke burrowed Uk sound. And 50 cent blew up because of DrDre beats and had a massive promotion push by the media. At its core. New York needs help to be successful. Pop smoke and 50 weren’t gonna be the ones to make New York cool again.
@@djfusionkotb drill is a Chicago sound not Uk
@@albertofava865 what you mean lol. Them pop smoke beats don’t sound like nothing like Chicago? And I don’t even consider Chicago owning Drill. Drill is trap beats from the south they stole.
@@djfusionkotb Chicago made it famous, sosa made it famous, You people are overrating the Uk influence, is still only famous in the Uk, not Worldwide
It’s crazy to see that the Mecca of Hip Hop has lost its sound while all the other regions have kept their respected sounds alive. It’s just wild to hear NY rappers trying to sound like everyone else especially the UK at the moment, Hopefully NY gets back to their sound.
Yeah never understood why yall got into drill music
@@seanq9884 NY Influence has been gone for 20 yrs bro... That's his point, not hatin I just expected yall to make a strong comeback by now
That's not necessarily a bad thing. NY influenced all of hip hop, now the rest of hip hop is influencing New York. What's missing is someone who can balance those sounds and make something new.
@Cesar Rivera Ok, which NY rapper sound like they from the UK? Card pulling time.
Hopefully New York "gets back their sound?" You mean boom bap? For the most part people don't want to hear that no more
Asap Rocky is to me is the bridge from the old school NY rap to the modern day rap. His flow is insane and always has the dopest beats.
His experimental sound sometimes really makes it hard for the mainstream to adopt, although i feel sometimes hes like 3/4 years ahead of everyone with his sound but again like the comments above he does put a lot of time in fashion/art etc which is fair play to him
ASAP rocky that guy
I guess… but the problem with ASAP rocky is that he really doesn’t even sound like a New York rapper. When I first heard him I thought he was a southern rapper from Houston literally wouldn’t know if he didn’t mention Harlem
Everybody in the asap crew is trash
@@fernandodominguez9143 but you can’t blame him he tried to be different cause ny didn’t have nothing going on
Having lived in both the northeast and the south I can definitely say how NY treats their artists is totally different than the south. Because NY considers itself the birthplace of hip-hop they are always concerned with who is the best NY artist which encourages beef but whenever a new artist comes along in the south entire cities and regions get behind those artists to push them out to a national audience. The vibe is just totally different.
It’s the other way around, there’s more beef in the south fam. In Louisiana it’s a miracle if you make it as a rapper and in Texas it’s hard to make it mainstream because Texas ain’t a industry state and they only have one city and its Houston and they not even top 5. And for the other states like Mississippi, they don’t got no rappers. The only state in the south that I can say you right about is Florida. I been in both too, grew up in queens and Bronx and moved to Dallas more than 10 years having visited Louisiana for family. You got it the other way around shorty
@@175dee9 Wasn't my experience but I was in Memphis
@@175dee9 I think Louisiana and especially New Orleans is just especially hard to make it out of
@@175dee9 nah in New York every artist just wants to call themselves the King Of NY which is very annoying. And New York radio or industry wants you to have Bars or be the vison of New York just bc it’s the birthplace of hip hop trying to give new artists a high standard
yup...too much competition...the south are africans and so they get behind each other
When NY started imitating other region’s style, that’s when it started to lose its prestige on the game
Yes
Hadn't it already lost prestige by then? Which is why they were imitating other sounds?
@@kauswekazilimani3736 Tru Fuckin Story
Facts 💯
It's mainly younger "artists" that use different sounding beats these days. NYs best spitters who are well known haven't done that.
Griselda is a breath of fresh air man, Benny The Butcher will go even higher places
N they Buffalo niggaz
Not at all. They are all boring and repetitive
@@onceagain6184 so what is entertaining?? All you tight Jean niggaz say the same about lyrical rappers so let me hear what you prefer
@@onceagain6184 FLYGOD has the best shit 💯
Conway is better. Griselda is only refreshing to people who don't listen to Underground rap. Roc Marciano had this sound over a decade ago.
Hip hop is in it's dark age globally.
There's more hip hop then ever, but quality is not what it used to be in 90s and 2000s.
People only remember the good stuff from back then so it only seems better
@@marblestaircase4066 I agree. It seems like that and also nostalgia factor added to it.
But today I don't find almost any hip hop content that interesting.
I mean they have mixed with EDM and other genres that makes it so cheesy.
Also hip hop back in 90s was more about crime, poverty, neighborhood etc.
Now it's about chillin' at the penthouse with bikini laden chicks.
@@rightlibertarian8355 yea it’s true that hip hop has taken a turn for more less conscious music, but I think hip hop is in a golden age of genre bending right now. People like Kanye Tyler Kendrick and others have been bending hip hop in a really interesting way and I think that’s cool
@@marblestaircase4066 yeah, there has been improvement in hip hop lately.
This gives me hopes.
@@rightlibertarian8355 mostly by bending over
RIP to Pop Smoke, he was going to be the next big legend.
I think he is that legend right now. but I agree. there's no one right now that has the charisma and power that he did.
Mos Def.. 💙🙏🏽
💯🙏
Coach is better
westside gunn is now their next legend
JOEY BADASS AND THE PRO ERA ALONG WITH THE WHOLE BEAST COAST MOVEMENT WAS LEFT OUT OF THIS STORYLINE. THEY KEPT NEW YORK ALIVE DURING THE 2010s.
until steez jumped off a building
@A B not even, those niggas might’ve been relevant for a year if that, nobody remembers anything about Joey Badass, he’s barely a footnote in the story of hip-hop. lmao.
Not really lmaoo they were try hards relying on nostalgia. On the bright side Joey is a dope actor
@@jumpman366 I disagree. Their Movement was Organic. It just took a Major Blow When Steez Decided to Exit Stage Left. 🎯
@@giiotm8272 Says You.
As A South Florida native, Pop Smoke was gonna be the next up for sure for New York. He checked everything in the box. New York went away from from its Raw, Natural, street sound it always had in the Past while also with the artist having a original sound .Ie, Rakim, Nas, BIG, 50, Cam, Jay, Mobb Deep the list goes on. And it doesn't make it better when the burrough were always in competition with each other since forever.
@Anukin NY Walker
Exactly... people keep ignoring that beat style was stolen from UK 100%
@@Screech032 I thought it originated from Chicago?
@Anukin NY Walker yeah we definitely not disrespecting Trick Daddy.. Trick Daddy got a lot of classic Albums along with the hits too go with it.. ya name is "Anukin NY Walker" lol bruh get that name the fuck out of here
@Drink Water but ya grandma still listen to his music and your momma rollin over in her grave to
@Anukin NY Walker fuck NY. Could care less about ny stop coming to south beach while your at it
RIP Pop Smoke, he was going to get NY back on track
Just was about to say this
I swear he was
He really was and I don’t even like drill. He was special fr
Pop Smoke's music didn't do, say or sound any different than every other rapper been doing, NY just trend followers
@@cozmikfunkrabbitt30how so when there's people even in Asia following nyc rappers? I think the idea new york just follows trends is over stated. Its true to a certain degree but u can day the same for any other place. Because of the internet people aren't as regionally isolated so pick up trends from other places. People like to use drill as an example claiming nyc rappers copy Chicago. When in reality Chicago is just an off brand nyc tbh.
IT'S 2022 AND I STILL LISTEN TO 90S HIP-HOP🙏😥
Don't 4get the earlier rap songs as well alot if cats sleep on them artists and they were lyrical as well and doing party songs anything till 05 was the best after that it was just nonsense
As a native New Yorker I can say it’s due to the lack of community within one another. Everyone is busy competing for clout while other states know how to build.
If we are talking about mainstream wise for the New York hip hop style then yes you’re right but if talking about underground that’s a different topic
@@YoungRiaz what's happening in the underground? where's it at?
@@bittercamari I am not sure how to explain but it different
I have a question what does New York think of Muslim hip hop group Deen squad
It’s because majority of the afro descendant in NYC population is now majority immigrants!!! Most of the black Americans in NYC (descendants of USA chattel slavery) are in the south
The guys from New York who can actually spit haven't gone anywhere. While SoundCloud rap was ruling the airwaves NY was just Gathering the troops. Bars is back.
True
No one cares about bars
Being able to spit and being able to construct a good song are 2 different things.
that's nostalgia pop smoke didn't have bars but was popping off cause it was new and interesting
Bro people move in circles
After the romance period came rock, after rock got glam in the 80s grunge came
Eventually bars are gonna come back, but let’s be real it ain’t right now
Always gonna be people who can spit Jid, Denzel curry, even ski mask has bars if you really break down what he’s saying, but people are definitely more interested in melody and harmony right now in hip hop
I'm gonna say this as a hip hop old school listener. What happened is NY was arrogant and Said F everybody except us. When the west coast and south coast realized they did not need NY to go platinum, it was over for NY. There were different sounds from other parts of the States and those artist could sale platinum without NY. And could sale to other states other than NY which would blow the sales from NY away. These rappers spoke to their people. Talked about things they liked and could relate too and it worked. Cali could sale in Cali the Midwest and South. The south could sale to the Midwest and Cali. Look how many states that is and how many people that is compared to NY. So NY fell off. It will always be the mecca but they have to recognize others achievements and adapt to it.
I love how you explained that, I love the NY rap of the past but I always felt a sense of arrognace and pride like they were better and that can also be a recipe for distaster cause other cities and regions like you said had a gang a talent. also the decline came when cities in the Midwest< Texas>Northern Cali and Southern Cali was also hip to the independent rap game so that also was over for NY since they have always been about major labels.
Great fooking post 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Best post
Thisss comment needs to be @ top and not them folks from other countries and continents
Personally, I’ve always felt that as soon as Outkast came out, hip hop changed forever. It slowly shifted south because of them, goodie mob, ugk and everyone that came after. Certain New York dudes always hated on them too and fans noticed that corny mindset. No one likes hateful people
UGK actually came before OutKast bro. OutKast came out around 93 94, UGK’s first album was 92. Eightball & MJG made Comin out hard in 93. Before them there was Geto Boys and Scarface
You could also argue this for the West Coast too
Not really we was listening to Geto Boys, Scarface and a lot of West Coast artist. Outkast was definitely a breath of Fresh Air, and then TI and Lil Wayne come on they were nice. But still till this day the best rapper alive is from NY.
The south got sumn a say
Edit: lol just got up to the part of the video where they show 3stacks I hadn't watched it yet when I commented I was curious to see comments before the video 😂
As a Southerner myself, Memphis born and raised, I can see why when it comes to some artists down here. Especially their early works. I wasn't crazy about Southern rap and didn't get into Hip-Hop as a whole until Em came out. I used to watch The Box a lot, but ‘My Name Is’ is the only song I ever called and requested, which got me in A LOT of trouble. Afterwards, my focus shifted to checking out other rappers that I had passed up on, which is where I fell in love with Wu-Tang and just the East Coast in general, but mainly NY. G-Unit changed everything for me. Out of everyone out nowadays, I still bump Lloyd Banks, GZA, Ghostface and Raekwon religiously. Stack Bundles too. Really hate he didn't get to have much of a career. I will add, as far as the South goes, Curren$y stays in rotation for me as well.
Papoose, Lloyd Banks, and Juelez Santana dropped the ball. They're all talented and legends in their own right. But they didn't put NY on their backs and hold it down like they were supposed to. Pap just isn't for everyone. Banks didn't care for the shine. Juelz almost started to act like Lil Wayne's lil homie. Wasn't a good look for the East.
And caneron and even jay z
Pap is boring, Bank$ was unmotivated and Juelz is trash... Bank$ could have killed but music went soft when it was time for him to take over.
Pap did have a lotta hype at first, wit Kay slay and busta backin him.
Lloyd and Juelz could have definitely been stars if Lloyd had the work ethic and Juelz didn't get drugged out
Papoose name is so stupid most people can’t get over his name.
The complete omission of Memphis’ contribution to the rise of southern hip hop is so disappointing. 3 6 Mafia has had such an immense influence on so many aspects of modern hip hop in general, but especially southern hip hop. Project Pat, Koopsta Knicca, Kingpin Skinny Pimp, Gangsta Boo along w/ sooo many others are so frequently imitated, soooo frequently sampled, and referenced by so many rappers from coast to coast. These artists are the blueprint for so much of what trap music is today. They *preceded* and influenced many of the Atlanta rappers mentioned jn this video… Makes absolutely no sense that the city is routinely excluded from these conversations.
Memphis rap is so underrated
Tommy Wright III
Dj zirk dj squeeky dj sound dj livewire dj fela dj pinky gangsta pat dj spanish fly 🪰 fly zirk and squeeky deserve respect in they name they been doing this yes I know three 6 copied them and made they beats better but since they took it to a mainstream level I respect them for doing this but they did they artist ✂️ throat and livewire and sound were basically competing against three 6 with they beats and lets not Also forget blackout and shawty pimp them beats go hard thank God barely anyone know them besides underground heads though cuz once you become mainstream like three 6 you start to change
New York fell off due to creative stagnance, Rap fans are always looking for the next new sound or way of rapping and the South is always changing and evolving. The South also has a much larger black population than New York/the East Coast meaning it has a larger pool of talent.
True but Atlanta is smaller than New York
@@sahulianhooligan7046 Who said anything about Atlanta??? The comparison is between the South IN GENERAL and New York/THE EAST COAST.
Yea NY rap fell from its graces cause they didn’t want to evolve with the times. They stayed with the same sample based boom bap beats when the south was experimenting with crunk, snap, trap, chopped and screwed, etc
@@mlspeopleshoulddateeachoth6940 Exactly.
Larger black population? How is that even relevant?
I'm from VA, but it's so disappointing how NY rap fell off when they were the originators of hip hop. It think it started to change when rap stopped being regional with the rise of the internet
FACT
I disagree. When Luke was doing bass music in 90 it was the beginning of the end. By 94, southern hip-hop was listened to by people up north. The south had so many difft sounds by 86 and NY started having the same sound. The early 2000s put the nail in the coffin....
Also the st lunatics were Midwestern but had a southern feel. They were huge. After 2003, the industry changed and allowed copycats which boxed out by anyone who didn't have the sound...
@@ertfgghhhh different sounds didn't equate to it being good. A lot of it was awful music. The lyrical skill was below average and no one could stand the country accent. NY hip hop is in a class by itself. You're comparing one city to an entire region.
@@MrJohnson3.14 difft and new sounds kept people dancing cause that's what they wanted. There were many artists that were lyrical also. The south shares culture just as the boroughs do. We are just not living on top of each other with garbage and cockroaches like y'all. The problem with the boroughs is hubris- y'all looked down on the south. The south was innovative. Instead of us traveling to NY to make it big, we stayed in the south....
50 is right he did what he was suppose to do, be competitive. Radio was the one that abandoned NY hip-hop.
@Ben Franklin they didn’t fuck with him so he told em to fuck off
I feel like A$ap, Joey Bada$$ and now City Morgue are keeping NY strong. Run the Jewels is 50% NY and Aesop Rock is still releasing increasingly good stuff. NY hip hop and rap will never die, it'll just multiply.
City morgue for real good call
Asap? 😂
Don’t forget Griselda
He don't know his srtost he's talking without ever walking in NYC all you hear now is bronx drill and Brooklyn
Rocky makes Houston rap lmao
Peace to Rome Streetz among others who are keeping NY hip hop alive and well. Peep his catalog and keep your ears open because he recently signed to Griselda. New York rap is on the ups.
He's been riding with Griselda for years. He's not new & he nor Griselda will change mainstream rap. Real Rap has been in the Underground.
@@Man_eee please speak your mind ...what underground
Once I heard Sgt slaughter it was over
Love to see someone mention Rome, definitely one of the best outta NY rn
Rome Is The Best Out Of Griselda Too Lol
This video dropped at the worst time because New York is very hot in the game right now. Everybody is trying to copy New York. With the dances and sound. The drill samples, fashion and everything. New York hasn’t been this hot in a long time and that’s what most people are listening to. You go on Tik Tok and that’s all you hear, New York drill lol. It’s the cool thing rn 😭
yea this guy has no clue wtf he’s taking about, u can tell he a old head😭 New York is like the hottest city in the game right now especially the Bronx
You mean the sound NY got from UK who got that sound from Chicago? And who is everybody the white kids from tik tok lol
Too many Drill rappers and the ones that don't do Drill don't get the same hype.
Same hype? Good music is always heard. Even underground artist
i agree. I still have Joey Badass record "summer knights" that I play every week; that, to me, has a New York sound. But Joey doesn't go out and shoot people and call out his ops so it doesn't get played.
‼️‼️‼️‼️
Thats ironic since drill always existed (not the name itself) but it wasnt recognised....yet (the ones know im talking about)
But for me i dont like it at all, rap should be uplifting
50 authentic asf but r.i.p PRODIGY H.N.IC.
💯💯💯
@@nigginthewoodpile7721 u already 💯🏆💯🏆
You forgot to mention how Griselda is from Buffalo and not from NYC.
This made it a lot easier to circumvent the NYC radio shit.
They throwing the blame at each other when they both did it
The internet (mainly) and multiple other factors played a part. Hip hop is just evolving.
New York is either too interested in Fashion or rappers usually tend to get mixed up in gangs and tragically end up getting shot. For instance, NY literally had ASAP Rocky and if he really wanted to he could be running NY with no problem he has the fanbase and the skills but instead he focuses on fashion too much. Same could be said about Joey Badass who decided to get into acting instead of releasing more music (In his case he is very underrated still). Lets also not forget that most of the NY rappers tend to not unify and always beef with each other more frequent than others in different coasts
Bingo this is the most accurate comment I’ve seen yet .
I just think the wave Rocky started passed him up.
NAS IS STILL KING OF NY WHO FOCUSES HIMSELF ONLY ON MUSIC AND MONEY...
Summer Knights is still one of my favorite albums to listen to, that's what I think of when I think "modern new york sound". But I think the industry also pushes drill wayyyy too hard rn, so if you aren't a drill artist, you kind of get pushed to the side.
The streets didn’t fuck with them even tho asap rocky really from the streets I know ppl that know bro but it was all hipsters and outta towners fuckin with they movements.
The 50 Cent & Cam’ron beef was the final nail in the coffin for NY Hip Hop
Camron started it, if you recall 50 said on the radio “I don’t have any problems with Dipset” then Cam called & started hurling insults for some reason
@@Bingo_the_Pug yet Cam'ron is scare to go to war with Jadakiss and The Loxs
Nope it was all about Cam.
Everyone diss Killa Cam.
Murda Mase for life.
@@samuraibeastwarrior2886 we’re talking about real beefs and diss records not some pandemic/social media concert 🤣😂🤣
@@gtajets5867 I'm just saying
Not supporting Tupac also had a long term effect. It's crazy how people forget that he's a east coast rapper that was proud to be from NY, but they NY didn't support him so he went to the west coast. His song "Old School" which is great btw showed how much he loved NY.
He moved to Oakland at a young age before he was signed and turned his back on New York after the Quad studio incident that left him Robbed and shot. He thought Biggie and Puff set him up and used that to fuel the east coast west coast feud.
@@soundshape6747 it wasn’t biggie or puff that set him up on the elevator incident
Jimmy Henchman was the one that put a hit out on 2pac cuz of jealousy. But since he survived he still believed that big, puff & Jimmy had something to do with it.
What’s weird is that around the 50 Cent & Game feud, Jimmy talked the game out of being in this whole feud and was willling to save his life. But fo some reason almost got pac killed, & killed one of 50’s close friends “Lodi Mac” cuz he slapped his sons face.
Jimmy Henchman was Interesting🤔
tupac turned on NY. sop trying to make pac into some saint who did nothing wrong
That happened to 50 cent as well. Tupac and 50 cent even new the same people on the streets and had the same enemies.
Offbrand Crippin and Offbrand Bloodin plays a role too. NY is NEVER supposed to blatantly wholesale copy ANYONE at ANYTHING. NY used to take pride at being copied now they will get in line quick to be like someone else and we all lose when NY aint bein NY.
Not just ny but the east coast what abt philly,nj,mass?? We as a coast lost our sound
@@hlk.2timez200 We need to get that back. Everyone sounding the same is weak
Another thing to nbs is every other coast when they think of the east coast they think of nyc, not upstate or other parts of the east. Meeks holding down philly but wha abt nj,ma,bmore,DC 🤷♂️
Griselda is running New York now. Your old droog, Mach Hommy, billy woods, El Camino, are some others that are keeping New York alive.
Side note I’m surprised MF DOOM wasn’t even mentioned considering how vital New York was to him and his music.
Exactly
i did notice his absence too but tbf he wasn't ever on rap radio like that
People have to remember, 50 Cent was literally getting banned from being able to play at radio stations because of his beef with Ja and Preme.
He struggled initially to get his voice out there so the moment he got out there, he capitalized on it immediately. I blame more so Ebro than 50 Cent.
Its definitely Ebro fault imo fr
Pop smoke was about to change the game. So much potential wasted… RIP Woo
"We are Hip-Hop
Me, you, everybody, we are Hip-Hop
So Hip-Hop is going where we going
So the next time you ask yourself where Hip-Hop is going
Ask yourself: where am I going? How am I doing?
'til you get a clear idea".
- Yasiin Bey (Mos Def)
There goes your Cultural appropriation loop hole. Most Def said it.. so hip hop is mines too lol
@@GStampedeIII it’s yours if you live within the culture. It’s the soundtrack to your life. That’s what he means
When Griselda started coming out New York was like, "finally!" A new sound that is still original with old school roots. Plus dudes spit better than everyone else. No Atlanta or Chicago influences, just pure east coast hip hop at its finest.
All I'm saying tho is that BOLDY JAMES IS TAKING OVER DETROIT! One song at a time.
Except they were never spitting better tham everyone else 😆
You just talkin now, Griselda been rapping circles around everyone for the better part of the last 4+ years
@@christophers7160 Crooked I. Black Thought. Lupe Fiasco. Royce 59. J Cole. Nas. KB. Aha Gazelle. Z Ro. Pusha T. Kanye West. KRS. Horseshoe Gang. >
And also Flatbush Zombies and Bizzle.
lol detroit and michigan in general has their own unique sound that's getting really popular. Don't think boldy is taking over as much as i love his music
50 was the apex of NY gangsta rap, right man right place right time. Just as hip hop was at its commercial zenith, 50 had the look, the back story, the undeniable talent, the ferocity, the fearlessness, the backing, the entrepreneurial spirit and the business brains which enabled him to package and promote his product as perfect pop music for the time.
His music was played globally by everybody everywhere from all walks of life in a frenzy of hype not seen really since MJ. Sure others had been big stars but 50 was something else. A genuine cultural icon.
He was both a credible artist and a comic book character for kids. He made a major and credible Hollywood movie and released computer games, clothing lines etc etc . He was a phenomenon.
He milked his product for all it was worth just before the music industry imploded and project budgets would have to streamline, of course because of the internet, streaming and social media becoming the global medium. He learnt from the past entertainers and played his hand beautifully. How does a rapper top that ?!
Talent? what talent? dudes trash on the mic and always has been... easily the worst big rapper to come out of here. He did market himself well I give you that and he'd beat the fuck out me for saying what im saying right now.
💯
NYC‘s identity is so broken nowadays. Like they became from ATL haters to ATL‘s clone. It's like how can the employer be so broke? I don’t know if the Coast Music identity coming back when East was East, West was West or South was South etc. We have great rappers here today. But most of them Rappers sounds are the same. It’s annoying in many ways.
I never liked how everyone was saying 50 was the reason NY fell off because of the beefs but NY was beefing with each other before 50 really popped off. If anything 50 was the last hope for NY at the time because ATL was on 🔥 in 03.
Exactly ny rappers having beef in since hip hop was created it’s always been like that
Scrolling reading this as I continue to bump NY music😂😂😂😂
It started after New York stopped sounding like New York..they started making records that sounded like down south shit or implementing southern music into their style..A$AP Rockys mixtape LongLiveA$AP is a prime example
That didn’t start the fall it just sealed it. Outkast started the shift
Yeah, as soon as I saw the title for this video I thought “well what IS New York Hip-Hop at this point?” They’ve got everyone from Fivio to 6ix9ine to Griselda. There’s not really a specific style.
Asap rocky did not sound like he was from the south. Slowing down your voice is not the only element to Houston or screw music. But I wouldn’t expect NY niggas to understand that.
Us in Houston definitely saw the influence and at first listen had a lot of friends think he was from Texas.
@@mikexxxmilly well kinda but in the 2000s NY had they own sound
What an interesting perspective. I remember the beef between Nas and J and then 50 and Ja. It was all ridiculous. But it makes sense that those situations are what killed NY hiphop. I’m from Miami. We have had our own sound down here since the 80s and although NY hiphop will always be mg first love. I will always represent the South. And will always love Southern hiphop. Great video!
What Killed New York Hip-Hop?
(A) 50 Cent
(B) The Radio Stations
(C) The Rise of Southern Hip-Hop
C and also the internet made it easier to find other styles. Back then as a casual you're limited to only two regions.
You can't put the blame on anyone but the south just added more flavor in the sound of hip-hop. Which in turn got more people listen because if you couldn't get the lyrics the music was bumping.
Facts 💯
Nah South ruined hip hop
@@barslounge_preme how
@@dairepurnelll they dumbed down the sound.
South corny
Hip Hop went Pop. That's what killed it!
exactly, what people call "hip hop" today, whatever the fuck it is it's not it...
Ok but irrelevant to the topic of the video
@@sahulianhooligan7046 more relevant than you think, as NY is the birthplace of hip hop culture...
Hip-Hop is my favorite musical genre since childhood, but is time to make Disco mainstream again
@@Holasoyunurl123 oh snap yo ma'ma calls me that too. Lmmfao!
The east coast as a whole needs an overhaul.
I’m from Jersey and there’s not a lot of brotherhood.
The old heads are damn near underground and don’t want to help nobody and the young heads are too busy killing each other to actually prosper.
The south had the game on lock which help create the SoundCloud era.
NY is a thing of the past until further notice
West Coast rap took the crown at one point then the south started to edge in late 90s early 00s. New York still held the crown but from mid 00s they started to slip.....that explains why rap turned into rubbish when it strayed too far from home.
It didn't start in New York, people from the South had rapped on records decades before New York. NYC only helped to make it popular.
@@tyrafan4life632 They say it was a Jamaican that started modern rap.
@@equinox95 He didn't rap.
@@tyrafan4life632 He started the sound system mic and DJ part of it, that was the beginning of Hip Hop.
@@equinox95 Sound systems and DJs have NOTHING to do with Rap. That's Hip-hop which is a sub-culture not a genre of music.
I blame the “This is real hiphop” boom bap rappers and fans. Out of pride from the birth place of hiphop. New York attempt to take back the crown. Instead of being humbled that hiphop is growing they hated anything that wasn’t New York. Completely forgetting why hiphop was so fun. They created a lyrical niche genre only east coast can love. Early New York hiphop had simple lyrics and they forgot that. This also affected the west coast because the west felt they had to prove them selves lyrically and west coast music started to sound boom bap as well. Meanwhile the south didn’t care about lyrics and produce music that appeased to both good beats and decent lyrics. It wasn’t until the age of the internet where music started to blend. Chief keef from Chicago sounding like he’s from the south. Kendrick sounds like he’s from east coast but he’s LA.
Federal Facts, I just said that they got too cocky and disregarded the other cities and regions that had major talent too.
Man by the time NY rap scene fell off almost every big rapper had long abandoned the boom bap sound for the most part. The early 2000's Hip hop scene was all about overproduced r and b club bangers, that was killed the scene imo.
@@thekidthatdid8788 and if you take away the fancy club beats that usually accompanies most of 50 cent's music you get a c tier rapper\singer that has the lyrical versatility of a rock.
@@thekidthatdid8788 too bad the majority of those artist will be forgotten, who's gonna be bumping "Buy you a drank" or Chief Keef's 100th song about getting high 10-20 years down the road unironically. Meanwhile records like Enter the 36 chambers has stood the test of time for almost 30 years now. Even 50 hasnt made a hit record since Scott Storch and Dre stopped carrying him, like most rap fad chasers there styles are forgotten and replaced by other underwhelming rappers who will be forgotten as soon as there ten seconds dry up.
Young people want to emulate whats on the radio and around the early 2000's anything with the new york sound was quickly swept from rotation and never returned since. Kids want to rep what they hear, and if you grow up hearing club rap from the south and trap music you are gonna emulate the sound because that is what you are most familiar with.
@@thekidthatdid8788 Huge fan of 36 myself not being biased but without New York hiphop wouldn’t exist lol. But once hiphop got to LA, Memphis, New Orleans, ATL, Texas, and Florida. Hiphop really blossomed.
New York destroyed themselves they had some stars coming up and didn’t want to help them the south always helped each other and grew together
Rocky kind of changed how NY Hip-Hop sounded, no one has ever heard music like that when LIVE. LOVE. A$AP. dropped.
facts rocky was on sum straight south shit
The whole state of TEXAS & HOUSTON heard it before because that's where the style he stole came from on that record AND parts of his next album...the whole state of Texas was purple before ASAP said it on a record
Right message wrong messenger.
It was literally just a Houston sound that had already been out for 20+ years wtf lol
@@PanAfricanCommunalist the guy who wrote that comment didn’t know anything. He be here on any hip hop commentator trying to flex like he knows hip hop he a bandwagon loser. He doesn’t know hip hop in different regions he horse based on what other RUclipsrs commanders say because they do the thinly for him
What happened with NY rap was predictable once "hip-hop" became a genre and commercially viable. In the beginning, hip-hop had a certain sound that was largely based on the NY accent. Despite NY being one of the largest cities in the world, it's a very small place compared to the rest of the US. Once hip-hop spread, southern rappers started rapping with their regional accents, and the "sound" of hip-hop changed. 50 Cent literally began using a southern accent to sell songs, and the rest is history. NY fell off, because too many NY rappers began catering to the rest of the country in order to make money. When trap took off, NY took another blow, because trap only solidified other regions and NY rappers had no choice but to appeal to that audience.
As a lifelong Brooklynite, I've watched NY go from innovators to copycats in music and sadly gangs.
Fabolous represented the sound of new york much more than 50 cent
@@daishinkansama5923 yes he did
true...i mean new york doesn't even play ny artists..but in the south they stick together FOR REAL....up north people are too cold
Fif literally has southern upbringing that’s why he sounds like he from the south
@@slimeballmk6656 everybody black up north has southern influence lol
50 was right about Ebro by the way he treats other artists specifically the newer rappers...📌
these radio stations have too much power. always have
When those three took over Hot 97 btw Ebro is from CALI so is the girl and the other guy is from out of state. I knew they were the gentrification of Hot 97. That's why I stopped listening to that channel. Atleast Power 105 still has some New Yorkers besides Charlamagne bum ass
Ebro a rat
Ebro is responsible for new york hip hop falling off. All he does is blaming on other rappers but he's the program director that controls ny radio not playing our music
Ebro is from California fuck that guy all three are them from out of state. They gentrified Hot 97
It’s honestly fairly simple, the sound just doesn’t stand the test of time. The south was ahead sound wise which is why we still flourishing
Boom Bap Hip Hop ain't dead son ! We can clearly see hardcore Rap artist like Apathy, Vinnie Paz, Run The Jewels, Krumbsnatcha, Blaq Poet, & many others still dropping albums & doing very well. What's going on is the mainstream & popular rap is moved to the forefront over the Boom Bap Rap. The corporations found a way to pimp & profit on popular rap....so in a nutshell us that's staying true to hip hop is now playing the backseat while plastic rappers gets to drive the whip to sort of speak. Also what slowed NY Hip Hop down was NY, (you can ask anybody this), NY only supported its own artist. Other east coast cities like Newark, NJ, Philly, Baltimore, & VA had to be the best out there cities just to get support from NY back in the day....We really can't be mad @ the South & the Mid West for going hard & claim a spot in hip hop by supporting there own artist as well as other region artist......💯👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Na brah you just old and never moved on from what you listened to in your teenage years, nobody needs to listen to no corny ass conspiracy theory obsessed Vinnie Paz (btw not sure what this list have to do with NYC), NYC has to reinvent itself and pioneer some new type shit, stop biting the south or UK like theyve been doing and get creative.
This just shows how dead the New York scene became, the list of artists you mentioned are all old artists albeit they're still releasing music, but which new artist has New York produced? Every other city is breaking new talent while New York is stuck on nostalgia.
@@tonydamari9468 Well....New York do have new Boom Bap artist but is playing the rear to the industry. Guys like Maino, Murder Mook, Sru Bangas, Uncle Murda, Rustee Juxx, and few.others but again New York only promote New York.....its gotten a little more open to do songs & buy music from other regions.....back in the day, naw Gee....again other East Coast cities like Boston, Jersey, Philly, Baltimore, & VA put out some dope underground hip hop. That's one of the reasons why New York rappers move to other cities.....Q-Tip in Atlanta, Jay-Z in Cali, Fat Joe in Miami.....New York knows if you want to put music out on a global scale you have to get out just being a local artist......💯👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Boom Bap faded because of supply and demand. A lot of the rappers you named aren't listened to by Gen Z like that. Corporations can only benefit from something if its popular in the first place, especially with younger audience
@@sahulianhooligan7046 You certainly right....it all comes down to supply & demand, or what I like to call it "Hip Hop Jerrymanderinhg"......
I feel Harry Fraud and French was on the right path earlier on updating the sound. Arab Muzik, Statik Selektah , Heatmakerz too
That’s a really good observation!!! I actually agree with that statement.
@@MarkHallOfFame thanks
You forgot to mention Pop Smoke, he was a rising NYC superstar. Sadly his run got cut short. RIP pop smoke
Future in 2011 was in the bridge for ATL.. Although Gucci, Tip & Jeezy was still dropping music & doin they thing fr by 2014 Gucci was locked up & Tip & Jeezy just weren’t the same.. Dirty Sprite was the first of its kind & from Racks on Racks onward Future never looked back.. a lot of people give Thug credit but Thug ain’t come into his own until bout ‘14.. Future had a whole careers worth of material by the time Stoner came out.. y’all gon start to comprehend Future’s career in its totality one of these days.. ppl think Future first started rappin in 2015 for whatever reason
People don't recognize Future's HOF status and influence on the rap game. Would put in Lil Jon and Luda as the bridge from OutKast to the TI, Gucci Mane, Jeezy era where the ATL scene produces multiple stars that establish it as an equal to the NYC and West Coast scenes. Future represents a new era where ATL is dominant and NYC no longer has multiple stars and middle players that command the same attention of the whole industry.
Future is one of the main reasons Mainstream rap has been wack.
"ppl think Future first started rappin in 2015 for whatever reason" I don't think I've ever met one person who's thought that
@@Man_eee Hate all you want, as long as you are acknowledging Future's influence. Which you are.
@@ighsight Bad influence that's nothing to brag about, Plus just bc something is wack & I speak on it doesn't mean I'm hating.
Waiting on Bobby shmruda to come back and save them just shows the desperate state they are in
No disrespect to the South, Midwest, West Coast or anywhere in the world but New York and the whole entire East Coast need to stand and rise up again in Hip Hop
I understand J.Cole from the south but when we talk about that 3 headed monster (Cole, K.Dot, Drizzy) let us remember Cole has always been a representative of New York as well. He went to college there and got signed to RocNation there.
This is true but I don't consider Coles sound to be distinctly new York or north Carolina. Nobody else sounds like him or has beats like his. He is just cole world. Kendrick is also a stand alone like he has experimental cali sound nobody else is doing stuff on beats like k.dot
@@insideroutside I totally agree! He has a distinct sound! But I wish NY claimed him abit more because he really puts on for them..
@@__Babaaaa how DF does he put on for NY when he’s from the south and says that religiously thru his music NY would look like clowns tryna claim him
I’m from Harlem and I rly like this video. I especially appreciate how u shined light on how bobby Shmurda help foster the new NY sound that being NY drill. And u also mention A Boogie and Griselda as emerging forces in NY.
That NYC has to claim Buffalo's wave speaks to just how down it is. Ain't no way they'd be claiming Buffalo back when.
@@bygonewaves there is nun wrong wit expanding what we consider to be NY music. Back in the day the same struggle was presented when Wu-Tang came on the scene from Staten Island, a largely forget about borough which is more known for its racial tension then music. Also it’s not like they don’t embody NY sound. Jus like pop and Fivio carried the torch when Bobby got locked up these are ppl finally taking the NY trap torch previously held by biggie
Doesn’t a boogie rap over southern beats
NY never harbored biters drill is not NY should and will never be the sound of NY.
@@tbj4855 More like sings
Griselda brought that east coast sound back. Same with Nas coming back. BOOM BAP AND SLICK EAST COAST SLICK BEATS.
What kind of distinct sound do each region in Hip Hop have?
The south and west coast definitely have distinct sounds…. We have to be honest, the new sound of hip hop is southern influenced. You’re lying if you say that it isnt
@@GrinchyGreen334 Faccs!!!! , and has been for well over a decade im 32 , i noticed the shift in the mid 2000's .
west has a lot of base and synths. A lot of it is very relaxed sounding
True. The Westcoast is heavily influenced by Funk (for example George Clinton) and their local electronic scene.
The south got many influence from stuff like marching bands.
Uk hip hop hop is booming
Credit goes out to Nicki for putting NY on her back during the dark ages
I'm glad somebody noticed her here. They really dont give that women her flowers thats why she be upset. Cause she literally was carrying the east coast pretty much alone
Maybe as a new/recent act. Jay Z and Nas were still holding it down when ymcmb was taking over. Busta. At best Nicki Minaj was getting more spins outside of home but most likely due to the South
🧢
@@natsusatsujinki8342 in 2008 through the 2010's era nas and jayz were in there retirement phase so they were releasing albums ever 4 to 6 years. In 2020 nas went back into dropping frequently because his and jayz beef ended and Jay stop shelving nas. Busta last album before 2020 was in 2012 and the on before that was 2009. Nobody was holding down new York like that in the 2010 era. That's how they lost there sound
@@insideroutside Nas dropped 08. Jay Z had recently dropped American Gangsta. Distant Relatives came out 2010. BP3 2009
NY has lost it's leadership ability regarding it's own ....Now it's just a bunch of followers sounding like everyone else but themselves. I never thought I see the day that NY becomes a bunch of followers. We use to set the trends & the standard ... those days are gone.
To be fair, most of hip hop lost its cool.
Depends on who you listening to
Old head mentality
This. IF (big IF) you think NYC rap fell off, then you probably believe rap fell off too.
Depends on who you listen to.I stopped listening to the radio since Covid showed up and I'm glad that mumble so called rap needs to be done away with SERIOUSLY 😔☹️☹️😝
@@ducksoop.x Na man, Lupe, Kendrick, Cole, D Brown are greath, but the atention go the wrong people like “munble” rappers.
In 2000 era all was about Eminem, Jay Z, Nas, Dre, 50, G Unit, Lloyd Banks, The Game, Outkaz, Busta Rhymes, DMX, Common, D12, Cypress Hill, The Roots, Doom, Big L, Snoop, Xzibit and Missy Elliot. Man... and just think if count the late 80s and all 90s...
Today are greath rappers, but sorry, before was better.
90's was NYC rap at it highest level. The hunger and the talent was unmatched. This era can't make that happen unfortunately. The talent is just not there. I miss the good old days of the NY rap scene I don't care for drill or mumble or any of this new shit.
Hip Hop isn't a genre of music...it's a 1970s Bronx subculture that died out in the early 80s. Rapping/Rap was a part of Black American society decades before the Hip Hop movement existed.
i was ready to disagree but this makes a lot of sense. Hip hop now doesn't even have half of the stuff what made hip hop in the early 80's. who tf cares about graffiti, DJing, or breakdancing anymore? lmao
@@noir269 what people today call "hip hop" is not it at all! I hate that mumbly trap bullshit is called "hip hop" when in reality, mostly it's unintelligible garbage.
@@ceasarcruz8312 Hip Hop isn't music at all...that's been explained.
@@bootneyleefarnsworth7307 I never said that hip hop is music... however music is big part of it :)
I love when you talk about the history of hip hop, it would be cool to see more videos like these, focusing on old eras
Keep up the good work sir 👍
rappers never wanted to be rappers. now cuz rapping makes so much money all these kids dont even finish elementary and start rapping, that's what makes it loose it's cool. leaned out 15 year olds who play playstation all day are not hard, it's just music for kids now.
Bullseye 🎯
I think the classic new york style is just kinda played out, it's evolving and that's cool. Plus people like Rocky are still out here
Sooo Long we still Got !! Wu tang clan!!!
how can classic new york style be played out if wu-tang is forever?!
Classic can't never be played out.
I don't know why Big L Is highly underrated.He needs to get more attention.
Not much material available
@@sirraldnus8590 Yh that's a good point
I think before his death, Pop Smoke really put NYC back on the right track of being seen best. His drill sound (even though it’s REALLY UK grime) is now around the entire country so the influence is spreading like crazy. Even though IMO Lil Baby is the best in the game, NYC is definitely competing again
They are competing but I think Pop Smoke would've actually given NY the top rapper in the game. Maybe not as soon had he not died but I definitely think by 24-25. He was the total package. With time his lyrics would've evolved & improved.
Pop Smoke evolved drill though, I do not put Pop Smoke in the same boat as any other NY or UK drill rapper.
Go back and check 2018 drill, Pop used adlibs and did things differently, him and Fivio evolved the sound.
Then, looking further, Just look what the producers did on shoot for the stars, nobody infused trap/drill like that, Pop was 1 of 1 for sure, and was the future of NYC.
Everyone was Jacking the drill wave and claiming it was 'up next', not trying to be that dude who was like; 'I been saying', but I knew once pop died all of these dudes were way too generic to carry on the torch.
When CJ popped off and I heard Whoopty, my first thought was; 'Its not awful but its generic', and then he turned around and never produced a hard hit again.
People spent all of 2020 debating who was 'next up' and then the scene died.
Pop put NYC on the map again, and gave it its respect back after what Takashi did (even though in his prime, he was on fire), and for that, he's the most recent king of NY in the past decade, and that's real.
It's UK Drill not UK Grime, there's a difference. Pop Smoke took that UK Drill sound from Traphouse mob/808melo and made great music with it, something that 99.999% of UK Drill guys can't do for one song, and Pop did it with over 10 songs.
It isn't really UK grime tho. There's a pretty noticeable difference
A lot of points being said in this video about NY rap can be said exactly about Cali/West Coast rap. I'm from Cali and it seems like we haven't really been in the mainstream since the 90's when Eazy, Dre, Snoop, Cube, and Pac were blowing up. I'd like to see a video done like this about West Coast hip hop.
Um, the game? Kendrick? Joey fatts? Nipsey
Just heard Vince Staples new single on Power 106 this morning. Tyler winning Grammys and Earl still putting out great shit. There's currently 7 up and coming Cali artist on the XXL freshman list this year. Madlib from the underground is getting mainstream praises. Alchemist on national TV performed with Gibbs on Fallon earlier this year. West Coast hasn't really fallen off it just evolved with the times because it wasn't as elitist like NY. Look at Shoreline Mafia and Blueface rapping like Suga Free from Ptown. It's being pretty well represented. Shout out to the Bay too, I bump E40 and Too Short, Guapdad, Andre Nickatina, and Hiero on the regular
@@patrickmiller1674 From between 2pac's death to the rise of Kendrick Lamar, the West Coast basically irrelevant with The Game being the only West Coast artist at that time to blow up.
@@pibstarr Westcoast Rap never disappoints me. 🔥🔥🔥
@@patrickmiller1674 to be fair, California is a huge place, so per capita we expect a larger amount of quality rappers from there. Especially since it’s considered to be an entertainment and culture Mecca.
The minute Andre 3k said the South got something to say , Everyone been following the South wave 🌊 every since
We need the Wu-Tang Clan more than ever now days man
Uk hip hop originally sounded like New York hip hop but eventually they have managed to sound original
Nah uk hip hop was influenced by edm and house music it’s how grime was formed.
@@mybestofriendo4615 yes but hip hop was a small element of it
@@YoungRiaz of course but uk beats from back then had more of a house and edm feel than a traditional hip hop feel. A lot of grime rappers back in the day were also edm, dnb, or house producers. Even now uk drill beats have a lot of edm influences.
@@mybestofriendo4615 yes you’re right I am not doubting you
@@mybestofriendo4615 grime was also influenced by dancehall just like hip hop
Moved to NYC in 2001. Here's what surprises me about the local scene: Even the low power, left-of-the-dial college radio stations don't break new acts. Maybe it's because the mixtape culture (and now social media) is where all the action is, but I came from a place (Bay Area) where stations were running independent hip hop around the clock. Artists literally had to sell platinum (and be hooked in with the right co-artists, it appears) just to get heard in their own home town.
joe is wild for self inserting himself into hip hop history 💀💀💀
Remember when 50 cent clown Ja Rule for singing in his raps than he relies that’s where the money at. Than 50 started singing in majority of his music
Now all the hardcore rappers today sing their raps
Also he was tryna clown Rule for making songs with females rnb singers and then goes and makes songs with Olivia, ciara and the pussycat dolls.
50 the biggest hypocrite.
Fif started singing in 97 I hate when people say this
@@slimeballmk6656 all you're doing is proving how much of a hypocrite 50 was/is.
50 didn't sing he was melodic and only in his hooks his verse he would spit
Also fifty clown Ja Rule for all of his songs being Duets more than anything not specifically for him singing
The fact it took the verzuz for the Lox and Jadakiss to get their flowers, should tell you the problem is with everyone. The fans, radio personality, artists. Everyone.
50 was part of the problem but he’s right- Hot 97 and Power 105 played a role as well. And the irony is Ebro and most of that morning show aren’t even from NYC.
New York will never be uncool its just that they need they own sound might take another 5 years before they get another pop smoke but it only take that one rapper who's supremely talented to put you over the top.
New York is to Hip Hop, what Hollywood is to the movie industry. It’s the Mecca of hip hop. Other places get their moment in the sun from time to time, but it always comes back around to New York. It’s impossible to overstate how huge the scene is there. There are tons of MC’s in New York who are virtually anonymous outside of New York, but they’re getting over huge in the underground there, blowing up shows and on the mixtape scene.
New York dont even talk the same thats how Sad the city is right now
What the fuck is this video lol do you not pay attention to hip hop? All the youth is listening to NY drill. Fivio Foreign, Kay Flock, Sheff G, Sleepy Hallow, Dougie B that drill scene is popping off HARD rn
Everybody is trynna get sturdy like NY and using their slang. Even in the underground, Griselda is running the game and it isn’t even close. New York hasn’t been this big in the rap game in a long time.
A lot of people probably not gonna like this take cause he half Irish half Puerto Rican but WiKi has the most New York sound to me right now.
The death of pop smoke revived New York music. The rise of New York drill has been huge and has started making a lot of noise.
I think it's given the city a clearer identity but on that same note, drill feels like a dead end
The *rise of Pop Smoke, his death killed a lot of the buzz
@@ashantinyongo7632 I love pop smoke and his rise did start the movement but his death brought so much more attention since you got people who never heard drill listening to it to see who pop smoke was.
@@luishuncho2054 All of those people were going to find out who he was anyway, dude was next up next up
Drill is already dying & real lyrical rap is on the rise again.
Dope. Gracias for putting this out. It covers the emceeing part of Hip-Hop perfectly. However it does leave out the other elements of Hip-Hop Culture though, even though break beats and deejaying are mentioned in passing. B-boying and hitting the wheels of steel along w/ Graff writing too, were a part of the culture that brought together NY urban artists of White, Jewish, Latino/Hispanic and Black kids from all over the 5 Boroughs together to form Hip-Hop's core 4 Elements, like Voltron. Then it was exported to the rest of the nation and eventually to the world at large via the exposure the culture got via iconic classics of Hip-Hop media such as the films and/or docs Beat Street, Style Wars, and Wild Style, to visual media such as the books Subway Art, Spraycan Art, and The Faith of Graffiti. All 4 elements find their origins in NY. Now overseas Asians run b-boyin' taking it to some insane levels when originally NY Boricuas and Morenos had that on lock, and you got West Coast Chicanos and Skaters now running graff when that was an OG NY thang back in the 70s and early 80s w/ its artistic White Kids and Latinos primarily turning inner-city madness into colorful works of artistic chaos. They too deserve their recognition for contributing to the culture's development and global phenomena as well. Other that that... Dope. Once again, gracias.
Billy Woods, THERAVADA, Navy Blue, MIKE... The list goes on. NY is still home of some of the most creative and skilled rappers out right now, it is just that the mainstream sound is shaped by trends originated in other parts of the US.
Louisiana has been a major factor in the rap game since the 90s and still is.
I agree with that but it shifted from New Orleans to Baton Rouge
All y’all have now is gates and nba
Pop Smoke more than likely would’ve changed the game for NY. I can only imagine what DMX’s album would’ve done as well. I wish that collabs w/ the OGs & New artists would get pushed more out there, especially like the collabs w/ A$AP Mob & Method Man.