Drake's biggest strength is working against him. His ability to adapt to and always be on top of what's hot has left him without his own style to fall back on. It's hard to be original when you keep doing what everyone else is doing.
I disagree because the whole Toronto sound is Drake, he can always fall back on that but the problem is the times have changed so it may be out of style now
@@MoMilly96 Drake's "sound" is a culmination of the artists he worked with from the Weeknd's House of Ballons style, which Drake popularized, he didnt create, to the Migos. "Room for improvement" had Drake sounding like a range of artist from Nickelus F to Joe Budden, he's made many styles, created by other artist, better, but there is no particular style originated by Drake.
@@St.CrimsonTweets again, he does have his own style and u just seriously brought up false info. He might’ve sounded like certain ppl but once So Far Gone dropped that was a Toronto sound. Even The Weeknd said it. His sound from House of Balloons was really Drake’s sound but more darker. Actually do ya factual research
@@MoMilly96 again Drake's "sound" is a culmination of the artists he's worked with. I don't need to dig up the plethora of poets, writers and singers that are on record having worked with him and contributed to what we the audience hears. So while you want to pin point one aspect of my comment, you have yet to disprove the fact that he never created any particular sound, here merely made it popular.
Drake's mediocre to purely bad albums come from a combination of him maybe not feeling he has anything left to prove in rap, along with embracing the popstar persona even more and doing music completely exempt from rap which we saw on "Honestly Nevermind." When you've reached the heights he has in his career, why even try? He did say "The moment I stop having fun with it I'll be done with it" and maybe it's getting to that point.
Heavily agreed. Bra literally said on Churchill Downs “i’m getting so rich my music’s not even relatable”. He KNOWS we can’t get what we once had from him so he’s just making whatever feels cool for him and his squad to swing to but that’s a very horrible mindset for him to have.
Drake was saying that he envied how much Kendrick Lamar can take 5 years off to create an album, and honestly, I don't see why he can't. Creating a really dope album takes a lot of time, planning and a lot of personal and creative scrutiny about where to take the music next. Folks may love Drake, but sometimes, prolificacy can hurt your overall product and make it seem like you don't care that much for the outcome.
@@MoMilly96 I think Drake is trash. He found a formula and just repeats it. I did enjoy his earlier stuff but now he sounds the same. No originality, even on this last album which sounds different but he sounds the same. He’s not on Kendrick’s level.
*I honestly think* Drake releases a slightly worse album each time - so that you latch onto his old stuff and find a new-found appreciation for it… we’ll be calling *Honestly Nevermind* a masterpiece in a couple years - when he drops an album comprised of pots and pans clanging together.
Right? Like in 3 years I bet we get a song in which he just faintly sings “your pussy is calling my name” with shitty mixing and vocal effects layered over it
For me, artists are human. There is no consistently perfect album run, there is no perfect record because well...who decides good/bad/perfect? I mean there are some objective qualities we DO use to determine how in general if an album is good, but at the end of the day there is the subjective part to consider. I think HHM said it on an earlier video about Kendrick (or maybe someone else did) but...let your favorite artist be human. Let them "fail" or not do as good as you hoped and focus on the message they are trying to convey.
I personally love relapse - because of it's absurdity. It's absolutely off it's rocker and I just die laughing picturing Dre and Paul's faces listening to it for the first time
@@mr.selfdestruct5845 it absolutely is top 5 100% I don't get how people can hate on relapse the only critic I see is "oH hE dID tHOsE wEiRd aCceNte ew"
It’s sad because it’s clear Drake still has it. His performance on “Churchill Downs” was undeniably incredible, and not just in comparison to Harlow’s verse. Several of his other features and even his own songs have had great moments, but his consistent hit making, powerful, full bodies of work seems to be behind him.
Relapse is great for the mere fact it's the true "Encore" and last album by Slim Shady. From that moment onwards Slim hung up and Eminem became the sole personality onwards.
7:36 Unpopular opinion but relapse was amazing ! With the accents he was able to bend words in ways to increase his lyrical ability. Also relapse had some bangers personally my favorite song from relapse is stay wide awake, stay wide awake also happens to be my favorite Eminem song
Relapse is the definition of a concept album. One of the best concept albums in the history of the genre. I never understood why it was received so badly.
As bad as SB2H was, I can definitely appreciate it more now as it's aged. It's really heavy and I honestly still can't sit through the whole thing cause of the subject matter. But what I appreciate about Cudi is that he did seem to have a genuine appreciation for rock and was just making the music he needed to at the time, whereas Drake has the complete opposite problem. His attempts at "dance" music are soulless as hell, and I guarantee that he wouldn't have made it if nobody asked him to.
Thing is, Hot Line Bling, One Dance, and Controlla, we’re all dope song from Drake. But they were mixed in w/ other songs and didn’t make up the entire albums. So the style switch made the songs stand out more and ya could appreciate the sound. HN being only house music just sounds repetitive. I’m sure a few of em will get mad radio and club spins which will in turn make it a success. It just makes ppl miss an older Drake, but we should accept that the run that he had was insane and not sustainable
Artists have to progress in their craft and sometimes the shift is rushed. That's how you get a bad album. Trust me if you working on something everyday. It cannot be bad. Just depends on how long you spent to perfect it.
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Drake has perfected the art of popularisim ,to stay popular you don't have to make a great album you have to make something many people will play in different locations and Carter to the masses than a few . Kendrick dropped a dope album how many people are still playing it . expect drake album to be played at summer parties
Kendrick doesn’t make party music for the most part, he actually takes his time to create art that will resonate with people for years to come. Drakes newer music (2017 onwards) is very forgettable and won’t be remembered as fondly a decade on. His recent music is the definition of a good time not a long time
You don’t go to therapy everyday lol. That’s why, it’s not fast food music. It’s that deep, introspection and self reflective music. It’s not meant to bump out the whip. It’s much more intimate than that
Everyone misses but you can't call yourself The Beatles or MJ and then don't put the effort in. I am a huge Drake stan but he is far from the greats if this is how it's gonna be from now. I know he can do more
Eminem is another example of this, when he puts in effort he can make a great album. But in my opinion his current albums feel like he's always trying to prove something to his haters/critics often to his detriment.
At this point in my opinion Eminem really doesn't have anything else to prove ,if he wanted to he could just put out an album for the f*** of it and have fun with it .
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The problem is that proving his haters wrong is what made the MM LP so good, but that was Slim Shady clapping against the Man and the establishment as a relative underdog. Trying to do the same when you _are_ the establishment and your 'haters' are either fans you left behind or people who miss the Old Eminem is not going to have the same result.
“Drake, they’re gonna turn on you (You) one day too (Too) And the more you win, the sooner (Sooner) they do They’ll be calling you a trash bin Sayin' that your new one isn’t better than your last and Even if it is, once they start to turn their backs They ain’t never comin' back in” - Eminem, Zeus (2020)
Drake is at the point where the only way to go is down. I think Drake would gracefully bow out if he truly felt there was an artist better than him but he's too big for any other artist to fill his shoes. And there are no other artist of that caliber on the horizon. I dont necessarily think that "Honestly Nevermind" is a bad album. But isn't a great one. Drake went from starting the wave to riding them. And there's nothing wrong with that. All the greats do. But unfortunately I don't think there's much more to do. And unfortunately unlike some other greats Drake doesn't have anyone from his ovo family tree that will carry the torch like he did for Wayne. And thats fine. But Drake should either move on to something else like movies. Or do like beyonce and go missing for a while and create the best work of his career. While I respect the fact that he is the most consistent of the artist in the trinity i do feel like he should take some time to find new inspiration. Perhaps that the price of too much success. Maybe he's too busy. Or maybe Drake just throwing stuff out there to build up to something crazy.
"I think Drake would gracefully bow out if he truly felt there was an artist better than him" That in an of itself is such a profoundly dumb statement.
SB2H is still one of my favorite albums despite the general consensus about it. He felt like screaming on an album to express himself. Once I stopped expecting my favorite artists to recreate the same music they did before, I found it easier to enjoy their new records. Someone said, not sure who it was, that if you want to listen to "Headlines" or "Started from the bottom" or an album like Take Care or whatever album that was good for you, THEN GO LISTEN TO THAT. They will never recreate the same magic again. Just be present
Chance’s new singles are actually really good, especially highs and lows. His next album will likely be a huge improvement over The Big Day and is easily one of my most anticipated albums of the near future.
Chance is so talented we’ve always known that and I’m glad we’re seeing him come back in a different way. He’s taking the big day’s response in a way drake has refused to ever acknowledge feedback on that way
@@OMIMmusic jesus is king is an undeniably bad album. yeezus is also too derivative and too tryhard to be taken seriously even if it might not be technically bad
@@OMIMmusic nah bro u cant tell me that JIK is good. Some things are just objective, otherwise this video wouldnt exist. Like u cant tell me that MBDTF is a bad album. You can say you dont like it, but calling it trash is objectively wrong. You also cant objectively tell me yeezus and JIK are good and well made albums, even though you can personally love them
@@jahterminatedlmao5473 theyre not as popular but are wildly popular in their nieches. + they changed the music industry. most impactful albums together with 808s. yeezus was voted top100 albums of this century together with MBDTF.
This channel never seizes to amaze me when it comes to educating me on the culture and the craft. I have a lot more appreciation for the genre thanks to the education I'm getting from this channel. Always looking for the next video, Keep it up.
@@Bren10thousand @BrenTenThousand Funny guy. Are you proud of the slight moment of relevance that got you two replies? If your not careful you'll get an education on some other things real quick. 👌
There are great rappers / artists that may have that one (or two) missteps / bad albums, and that is not a bad thing. Nas has Nastradamus, Lupe has LASERS and Drogas Light, Kanye has JIK, HOV has Kingdom Come, etc.
Why are people acting like CLB is Drake's first bad album? Views and Scorpion were hot garbage too. Drake understands he can literally put out bullshit and the masses will flock to it. An artist's legacy is dependent on project quality not commercial success.
speeding bullet 2 heaven is probably the Cudi album i go back to the most. I Dont think it would have been a 0 if he had released it under another alias.
@@OscarGarcia-bq6iw passion pain at least SOUNDS like cudi, he knew what he was doing. SBTH is a joke made my him when he was on drugs and didn’t give a fuck, stop acting like that shit was innovative even rock fans hated that shit
I mean if you count Idylwild I’d say Outkast has a miss. Not a huge miss, not The Big Day or anything. But it’s a step below some of their classics. Given, it’s a movie tie in so I can agree with you if you don’t classify it as a core album
Blame capitalism for Drake's entire discography since Views. When you're too successful to fail and will make millions upon millions anyway, you have no incentive to try. Drake knows that all he had to adhere to a few memes and he's golden. And acting like Honestly Nevermind was "out of his comfort zone" is laughable. Just because it's a different genre doesn't mean that it isn't the same boring and emotionally-drained singing about his emotional troubles all the while making it obvious that he's exactly the type of person who doesn't deserve love? We've heard it all before. HNM isn't that risky. He's done a similar sound back in his early days but better
I do not understand why people take Joe Budden serious... he had ONE hit in 2003 from a movie soundtrack, that's it... that's just my personal opinion.
True but I’d say that’s one more hit than most music critics in the history of ever. He’s certainly no gospel on anything hip hop but his takes can hold weight.
Lol you think taking Joe seriously is bad? I will never understand why this channel takes people like Anthony Fantano as a genuine critic. He's the musical equivalent of a wrestling mark.
That is true everyone seems to love it now but I’m still saying Revival > Relapse to this day. Everyone gets mad at me for it but I honestly don’t care. Relapse was so bad
@@mrq.1236 that’s cool if you like Revival over Relapse. But Relapse is just better in every single way: concept, creativity, production, skits, rhyme schemes, flows, features, album cover.
Not saying that Drake's last two albums weren't mid at best because I think they were... but it seems like everything each top artist drop gets a lot of negative feedback and very little positive feedback... and then it fades into obscurity after a couple months.
More so people are way more critical these days but I think in Drake's case it's deserved Drake's been Mediocre since views but people lied to themselves cause he was on the radio and charts
@@itsallenwow lol what? I love Kendrick and I love MM&TBS but that album definitely got a wave of hate at first it really wasn't until like a week later people really clicked for them
Kanye is the only rapper of his size to never have an objectively bad or even mediocre album. You might not like the gospel sound of Jesus is King, but he undeniably pulled it off well. And as for every other album he's released, they all could be reasonably considered classics.
Drakes new album is ok, Not amazing. It’s not revolutionary in music, but for him being a hip-hop artist, now putting out a full dance-house project, it’s an interesting moment.
Nas - illmatic, it was written, I am, stillmatic, lost tapes, gods son, untitled, distant relatives, life is good, kings disease 1, kings disease 2 and Magic with kings disease 3 on the way. What more can that man do?
That Nas statement was some crazy shit. Even the beat selection criticism is overblown, and I feel a lot of this rests on Nastradramus, but if you go back and read the reviews to It Was Written, people were already having a problem saying he sold out for a pop sound with the trackmasters. The criticism doesn't hold up at all.
@@GuavaConQueso Exactly. The hip hop media even back in 96 has somewhat tarnished Nas in a way, because gulliable people that can't think for themselves fell for the narratives that they purposely pushed out there about Nas to elevate other rappers in the public eye to appear above him. Nas is so great that he pushed through all of that and still ends up being at the top.
Yea it annoys me so much, everything always goes back to Illmatic, people always compare it to Illmatic but forget to recognise an album thats even 75% as good as Illmatic is still a classic album. And Nas as you stated has plenty of incredible records, It Was Written is basically on Illmatics level, he released Stillmatic, The Lost Tapes and Gods Son back to back to back, Hip Hop is Dead and Life is Good are good listens and so far his work Hitboy has all been amazing.
@@akshaysundru482 yeah I don’t get the logic of trashing albums after illmatic “cause it’s not illmatic” like the same argument can’t be made for literally EVERY music artist that’s dropped multiple projects lol
What he need to do is release an album every couple of years do not rush have some of the people he know listen to the album and give him honest opinion
@@loppyhero7196 I almost never know one of the musicians I listen to is releasing something new. I usually just find new music. So I got excited for CLB. Not even a hard core Drake fan.
Kid Cudi's Speeding bullet to Heaven is amazingly dope! Its some black afropunk shit most wouldnt undertstand its very niche. I respect it extremely because Cudi was doing it for the art not the bag. Trill!
It's like: Why do the rappers/singers suddenly want to fall down the mountain, even though they are good on their way to climbing further? What I don't understand is, why do they even want to be so experimental if their identity is going great? Em has been disappointing me for years, which totally fucks me up, because he is one of the best of all time. But i could hear an Andre3k verse and that's even better than Em's last 4-5 albums. With Drake is like: where did his hunger go when he made TML, Take Care, NWTS, IYRTITL, etc.? That's why there is too much nostalgia in it and can't take the new projects seriously. I don't know if there will be a Drake album that can keep up with his earlier projects.
A bad piece of work is completely inevitable. There's not a great artist that has no taste of its own downfall. Great examples would be Kid Cudi's Speeding Bullet 2 Heaven, which was so clouded with his addiction that time but then he got sober and released better albums from there. Eminem's Revival, which was a massive letdown to the great rapper himself, because he seem to find his own sound again with the transition of his voice as he ages, but then released Kamikaze and got back to the top. Drake, on the other hand, does not even care anymore as to how people will perceive his albums. He seems to think that the albums are too genius for his audience to comprehend when in fact, it's just trash as it always is. Soon as people reach the mainstream, they think they're invincible and cannot fail (like the case of Chance The Rapper). An artist's career will always be a slope-has its highs and lows. You can't just set standard for something that's involuntarily coming.
The last decent Drake album was Scorpion. Meaning it was better than CLB and Honestly Nevermind. Views was Drake's first bad album in my opinion. Nothing's been the same (pun intended) since he dropped Nothing Was The Same. I started to lose interest back then with his drowsy delivery on songs like Started From The Bottom. That album was at least good. If you wanna call his first two albums great I won't argue.
Eminem's Relapse is way underrated. yeah the silly accent can be annoying but the flows, rhymeschemes, punchlines and gritty/serial killer vibes are amazing.It also has some really good Dre beats.
Revival came out in 2017 IIRC and Relapse has been getting more love (and a cult following) as time has gone by. The accents takes some getting used to though i.e. an acquired taste
Mainstream success & flopping seem interlinked... Maybe cause wide popularity over prolonged time requires too many compromises & concern for current acceptance of the artist and/or art. If an MC keeps shit real, never chasing the charts, never giving in to label pressures, never all that concerned with comparing wallets with others, then they're far less likely to let down fans or themselves. 30yrs in, Black Thought has no flop albums. 🐐
I’ve noticed that there’s a tendency of dismissing hits/popular music because it’s simply that, “pop”. Making music that resonates with a larger audience isn’t as easy as people make it seem. If it was, then Drake himself would have another In My Feelings, God’s Plan, Nice For What, Nonstop etc. Drake has made so many mainstream songs that weren’t even intended to be that. In all honesty, most of his hits don’t even come across as disingenuous or compromised.
i hate when hip-hop artists get hate for doing an album that’s anything but hip-hop 🤦♂️ i love when artists do experimental things bc i always end up enjoying what they make later on and it’s just nice to hear some of my favorite artists of all time do a new sound that i didn’t know i liked and introduce me into a new genre.
Yeah, but there's a reason why Let's Start Here has been praised by everyone while Honestly Nevermind by Drakr or Supermarket by Logic are treated as jokes
Nah, I liked Encore. Relapse was weird, and I haven't heard Revival yet, but based on the reviews, I'm not sure I wanna. But I think reviews are overblown anyway so I may listen to it.
To me two worst albums are revival (except arose, river, and maybe some more 5 songs) and kamikaze (don't really feel half of it) ngl i just don't enjoy kamikaze that much, but i fk with MTBMB (especially side b), encore, and one of my favorites - relapse, easily top 4 em albums after mmlp, tes and sslp.
When he signed to Atlantic in 2010? His mixtapes are usually still good (Taylor Allerdice, Kush&OJ), but yeah, his albums are usually just okay or mediocre.
*Don’t forget Kanye’s “Jesus is king” album.. it’s soo bad bruh I couldn’t believe that one of my faves of all time dropped something that’s so mediocre/bad* *So when “Donda” was announced I was even more worried but it’s an ok record, I barely go back to it and same with “ye” tbh but these are at least bearable compared to JIK💀*
@@skerion7956 i think Kanye was going for that type of sound especially that rock sound on black skinhead I liked a few songs off that album wasn’t his best but it wasn’t his worse Yeezus is def better than Jesus is king imo
That and the collab album with Future. I actually do remember some people hating on IYRTITL when it first dropped, but that changed quickly. I thought they were tripping regardless cuz that was the best Drake album I heard up until that point.
I think a couple of reasons why great artists put out bad albums is because all or most of them have ghostwriters or people helping them write their music. People like to pick and choose which artists to pick apart for having ghostwriters when the vast majority of them do. And a lot of times, I believe they have different ghostwriters on certain albums, which is why I think some albums sound worst than others. The other reason I think is because some of these artists have been around for a really long time. Artists like Drake, Nicki Minaj, Eminem, Beyoncé, etc. have been around for well over a decade. They've made all the music they can ever make. It's like, what more can they make at this point? I think these people have been around for so long that they lost a lot of what drew most people to them when they were first introduced.
Happens across all genres, Rock, Country, Blues, etc. The only exception I’ve ever seen escape the curse of the “flop” album is Alice In Chains (and Jerry Cantrell’s solo work) - even after losing one of the greatest frontmen of all time. Black Sabbath could almost boast the same thing, but even they had a black eye on their discography which was surprising. But Yeah its an inevitable there’s going to be a crap release in an artists career.
Even Sabbath with Ozzy made a bad album Technical Ecstasy. They put out 6 straight classics. With the rock bands its usually the drugs that make a bad album along with record company deadlines.
@@bazglsgw1208 Yep, that was the exact album I was referring to. That and the strange "Tony Iomi with Black Sabbath album". Funny you mention the record company deadlines because that's why everyone expected Alice's "Tripod" album to suck because they had just 9 days to complete it. You're absolutely right - pressure from record execs is a huge contributor to flat sounding mediocre albums.
@@HouseFromSmartCity Sure they done it with Lou Reed and he gave them Metal Machine Music haha. I wonder if anyone actually listened to it. Same with WU TANGS RZA he used to put affiliate Killa Bees albums out to help pay his taxes✌(if u dont know Metal Machine Music is just machines running n pots n pans being battered) thats what happenes when you give Lou Reed rip deadlines lol.
Speeding Bullet is very much a window into the depths of agony that is depression. It's horrible to experience cus it's so vividly accurate. So happy he's good now.
Good point but it’s not working the way it used to because everyone in the world has heard of him before now and already decided if they like him or not. Now he is just making some old fans or listeners think he’s not worth listening to anymore
I actually enjoyed that Drake album tbh. But if we're gonna talk about how good Vince Staples album Big Fish Theory which combines EDM and hip-hop seamlessly with experimentation too. Yeah Right with Kendrick, SOPHIE and Flume is an example
I feel like a lot of the albums that people were shitting on were just too different from what's mainstream. Hiw are you mad at drake for making an album just because it isn't hip-hop? How are we mad at Kudi for trying to explore that Rock sound? Sure a lot of the others were definitely trash, but I personally think, we need to broaden our horizons.
Last album was pretty bad but we can’t deny what he did for music in general. From Club Paradise, Take Care, NWTS and much more, he created a whole vibe that era. I’m very grateful for him.
Joe Budden is not the one to talk he wanted to be a Drake type before Pump It Up - HNM 204,000 sales - the streaming star's lowest opening-week tally for a studio album. Spotify music is free and Wackademics is worse
If you never evolve the sound then you become the past even from the top, sometimes it works sometimes it's bad it doesn't mean you're bad, just means kill it the next time cause people will always talk about you good or bad, they'll keep talking
Music is not the same. We don't hold the artists of today to the same standard as artists from back in the day. Music videos, performances, and songs used to be crafted so well and carefully. Everything is a joke now.
em's biggest problem is refusing to accept that his lack of success recently isn't due to his shit being different, it's because he's old and he's ran outta shit to talk about. he's not angry or hungry anymore, it's not him against the world anymore it's him against himself
It's like the opposite of a gateway to EDM. Drake singlehandedly probably made a bunch of people not want to listen to EDM anymore lmao. Which is sad because there's so many good artists in that scene
@@Bren10thousand yes genius but how tf would drake make people not want to listen to edm, I mean it is alr becoming less popular but drake is not gonna make that much of a difference lmao
@@NickCageDrippp Idk about becoming less popular but, I think that people are just upset because Drake done something besides the same sound he has been doing before. In some communities people just don't like change and I find that to be very sad
We care way too much about celebrities and ppl making money. I thought I'd see something a little different in video and comments but ppl definitely worship celebrities I'm sold.
Drake signed his THIRD deal for $500m and has hundreds of millions in sponsorships. He’s probably a billionaire - wouldn’t doubt it. With that said. Your opinion. My opinion. These videos. Critics. He doesn’t care. Everyone making these videos cares more about his numbers then he does. He’s a billionaire. He is Drake. These critics need HIM to gain traction, clicks and views. He probably gets more press with a “mid” album. I think Honestly, Nevermind is a BANGER. But it’s also not made for people who don’t like this type of music.
Personally, I love Relapse. I'd say Revival is Em's worst album. My issue with Revival was never "it only had pop features" or "there's no slim shady tracks". The issue to me was the delivery in the songs. In interviews, it's obvious Eminem believes in the stuff he talks about politically on his albums. You see his face turn red, veins popping out, he trying to stop himself from screaming. On the album, he sounds bored. While I personally had no issue with Beyonce and Ed Sheeran being on the album, Em's music was feeling less hip-hop and more mainstream radio since Recovery. I liked some of Chance's stuff but the writing was on the wall for me with his music. I personally felt like each project was "good but not as good as his last" so I didn't listen to The Big Day until I heard back from others first. To this day, I have yet to listen to a single song on that project. The issue with Speedin Bullet to Heaven wasn't that it was more of a rock record. Cudi did WZRD a few years prior and it's a good album. You can also hear rock influences on several Cudi projects. This album just felt like a cluster and to make things worse, it was a double album. It was 26 songs that ranged from meh to just awful. I'm also not the biggest fan of Satellite Flight. That thing was marketed as an album but when you take out the instrumentals and skits you get about 4 songs. I don't really listen to Drake so I can't say much about his discography.
it also just had terrible production and terrible mixing. whoever mixed tragic endings needs to be fired ASAP. same with the person who made the bad husband beat, and the person who thought untouchable was an appropriate pre album single. same with the person who thought need me shouldve been on the album. same with the rick rubin tracks. same with the person who let the offended hook slide. same with the person who told em to rap like that on believe. god there were so many bad decisions on this project
Artist can become captive to their success. Audience demand familiarity more than growth. So the smart artist destroy their career in an effort to rebuild and recalibrate their approach. Wayne, Nas, Jay, etc…all stepped back after looking at the shift in the industry. Build and destroy to build again. Drake trolled the world.
You guys are drastically uninformed about chance the rapper. He’s dropped a lot more than a pair of singles since his last album, and he’s also been killing every feature that he’s been on. Y’all need to relax. The big day was not that bad
Em was speaking facts when he said “there was a time where you had to sound super different or it was automatic trash, now if you don’t sound like everyone else it’s automatic trash.” Except revival still ass
bruh 2017 was a great year of diversity and niche artists getting big BECAUSE they didn't sound like no one else, I mean xxxtentation dropped in 2017. Em was delusional looking for excuses.
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Drake's biggest strength is working against him. His ability to adapt to and always be on top of what's hot has left him without his own style to fall back on. It's hard to be original when you keep doing what everyone else is doing.
Dang...well said bro...I agree totally..the thing that kept him on top for so long, is now working against him.
I disagree because the whole Toronto sound is Drake, he can always fall back on that but the problem is the times have changed so it may be out of style now
@@MoMilly96 Drake's "sound" is a culmination of the artists he worked with from the Weeknd's House of Ballons style, which Drake popularized, he didnt create, to the Migos. "Room for improvement" had Drake sounding like a range of artist from Nickelus F to Joe Budden, he's made many styles, created by other artist, better, but there is no particular style originated by Drake.
@@St.CrimsonTweets again, he does have his own style and u just seriously brought up false info. He might’ve sounded like certain ppl but once So Far Gone dropped that was a Toronto sound. Even The Weeknd said it. His sound from House of Balloons was really Drake’s sound but more darker. Actually do ya factual research
@@MoMilly96 again Drake's "sound" is a culmination of the artists he's worked with. I don't need to dig up the plethora of poets, writers and singers that are on record having worked with him and contributed to what we the audience hears. So while you want to pin point one aspect of my comment, you have yet to disprove the fact that he never created any particular sound, here merely made it popular.
Drake's mediocre to purely bad albums come from a combination of him maybe not feeling he has anything left to prove in rap, along with embracing the popstar persona even more and doing music completely exempt from rap which we saw on "Honestly Nevermind." When you've reached the heights he has in his career, why even try? He did say "The moment I stop having fun with it I'll be done with it" and maybe it's getting to that point.
Heavily agreed. Bra literally said on Churchill Downs “i’m getting so rich my music’s not even relatable”. He KNOWS we can’t get what we once had from him so he’s just making whatever feels cool for him and his squad to swing to but that’s a very horrible mindset for him to have.
He’s so great that he’s trash -makes sense
Bruv this is pure genius
Lmao
He sucks and that’s a reach
Drake was saying that he envied how much Kendrick Lamar can take 5 years off to create an album, and honestly, I don't see why he can't. Creating a really dope album takes a lot of time, planning and a lot of personal and creative scrutiny about where to take the music next. Folks may love Drake, but sometimes, prolificacy can hurt your overall product and make it seem like you don't care that much for the outcome.
Drake was throwing shade, and Kendrick made 2 albums in that time he just didn't release the 2nd one yet.
Cause Drake can’t drop classics no more, he has to stay relevant.
@@StayBlessed47 I love how you said no more. At least you recognize he has some. Some ppl til this day be in denial
@@MoMilly96 well when you consistently dropping Dog shit level albums what do you expect.. he has more bad albums then good ones
@@MoMilly96 I think Drake is trash. He found a formula and just repeats it. I did enjoy his earlier stuff but now he sounds the same. No originality, even on this last album which sounds different but he sounds the same. He’s not on Kendrick’s level.
*I honestly think* Drake releases a slightly worse album each time - so that you latch onto his old stuff and find a new-found appreciation for it… we’ll be calling *Honestly Nevermind* a masterpiece in a couple years - when he drops an album comprised of pots and pans clanging together.
pots and pans🤣
Drake: *Dials the Director of the CIA*
"He's onto us. Secure the asset.*
i prefer authentic drums to digitally inhanced drums
Say you’re a d rider without saying you a d rider
Right? Like in 3 years I bet we get a song in which he just faintly sings “your pussy is calling my name” with shitty mixing and vocal effects layered over it
For me, artists are human. There is no consistently perfect album run, there is no perfect record because well...who decides good/bad/perfect? I mean there are some objective qualities we DO use to determine how in general if an album is good, but at the end of the day there is the subjective part to consider.
I think HHM said it on an earlier video about Kendrick (or maybe someone else did) but...let your favorite artist be human. Let them "fail" or not do as good as you hoped and focus on the message they are trying to convey.
Except for K.dot🐐
Damn was kind of bland imo
Cyhi hasn't missed yet if you include his mixtapes in the equation
KanYe would like to speak with you 💀
idk bruh this is just a HHM L take. don't like this energy, unsub
I personally love relapse - because of it's absurdity. It's absolutely off it's rocker and I just die laughing picturing Dre and Paul's faces listening to it for the first time
Talk that talk
Top 5 Em album.
Its 2022 and the fact that people are still hating Relapse is mind blowing to me.
I'd dare to say it is a top 3-5 eminem album.
@@mr.selfdestruct5845 it absolutely is top 5 100% I don't get how people can hate on relapse the only critic I see is "oH hE dID tHOsE wEiRd aCceNte ew"
Trash
A majority of artists lost that hunger that made them great in the first place
Complacency is something we all Face tho. It's easier to attain than it is to maintain..
It’s sad because it’s clear Drake still has it. His performance on “Churchill Downs” was undeniably incredible, and not just in comparison to Harlow’s verse. Several of his other features and even his own songs have had great moments, but his consistent hit making, powerful, full bodies of work seems to be behind him.
I totally disagree. But ok
also in wait for you
@@superthon7762 his verse in Wait for u was horrendous he was barely on beat
Being decent on a couple features and making a project as good as Mr Morale are two different animals.
Do you know if he even wrote it?
for me, Em's relapse is one of my favourite Eminem albums, I love how its basically just a Slim Shady album, but Revival is just a bad album.
I always thought relapse was a good album too. I believe encore & revival are his worst ones
@@RealOGMudbone I Believe the same, relapse is probably my 4th favourite eminem album
Relapse is great for the mere fact it's the true "Encore" and last album by Slim Shady.
From that moment onwards Slim hung up and Eminem became the sole personality onwards.
Both albums are ass in my opinion
Revival is one of his classics
Drake started a whole discussion about bad music 😂😂😂
This ain’t new. Y’all forget drake been on top for over a decade. Even Jay Z don’t hit anymore
Yall dont know music if you like drake. Yikesss
And people are saying he’s trash because he’s too good at music lol. I don’t think they realise uncreative people just run out of ideas after a while.
@@bigazTV Jay Z has his did albums, but his last one was really great
@@zeo278 ur not cool
Well definitely need a part 2 to this video it look like we can go so deep in depth in all the missteps in the discography from our favorite artists.
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7:36 Unpopular opinion but relapse was amazing ! With the accents he was able to bend words in ways to increase his lyrical ability. Also relapse had some bangers personally my favorite song from relapse is stay wide awake, stay wide awake also happens to be my favorite Eminem song
Not to mention Underground and all the Dre beats on the album. Relapse is AMAZING imo
Totally agree, relapse is really underrated bangers like crack a bottle, Deja vu, medicine ball etc..
Relapse is the definition of a concept album. One of the best concept albums in the history of the genre. I never understood why it was received so badly.
@@noksversion2 because people like to hate on eminem
@@rosekush6041 no people can just not like something
As bad as SB2H was, I can definitely appreciate it more now as it's aged. It's really heavy and I honestly still can't sit through the whole thing cause of the subject matter. But what I appreciate about Cudi is that he did seem to have a genuine appreciation for rock and was just making the music he needed to at the time, whereas Drake has the complete opposite problem. His attempts at "dance" music are soulless as hell, and I guarantee that he wouldn't have made it if nobody asked him to.
Thing is, Hot Line Bling, One Dance, and Controlla, we’re all dope song from Drake. But they were mixed in w/ other songs and didn’t make up the entire albums. So the style switch made the songs stand out more and ya could appreciate the sound. HN being only house music just sounds repetitive. I’m sure a few of em will get mad radio and club spins which will in turn make it a success. It just makes ppl miss an older Drake, but we should accept that the run that he had was insane and not sustainable
Wrong. Those 3 songs were bullshit pop tracks to make the album bigger. Drake has been horseshit since Views and every album has gotten worse since
@@stephenventura4075 you’re insane. Views and More Life are way better than Thank me Later
Stop please, he is an artist and is allowed to experiment
Stop please, he is an artist and is allowed to experiment
Artists have to progress in their craft and sometimes the shift is rushed. That's how you get a bad album. Trust me if you working on something everyday. It cannot be bad. Just depends on how long you spent to perfect it.
Ye spent like 2 years on Flashing Lights and that’s one of my top 5 songs all time. Drake doesn’t have anything CLOSE to that kind of song.
Exactly
I hear you there as an artist you always have to reinvent your style. For all the music lovers in here please have a leap of faith and give the albums on the link below a listen. Just maybe you might be entertained. Blessings to you all.
ruclips.net/channel/UCj_7o5vq72mkeyGIl5kviRA
@@zayzuess now u just saying anything
@@MoMilly96 watch “the most unruly making of Graduation” tell me if I’m capping sir
Drake has perfected the art of popularisim ,to stay popular you don't have to make a great album you have to make something many people will play in different locations and Carter to the masses than a few . Kendrick dropped a dope album how many people are still playing it . expect drake album to be played at summer parties
Kendrick doesn’t make party music for the most part, he actually takes his time to create art that will resonate with people for years to come. Drakes newer music (2017 onwards) is very forgettable and won’t be remembered as fondly a decade on. His recent music is the definition of a good time not a long time
@@kingjay9929Drake now makes popular music to stay on top of charts
You don’t go to therapy everyday lol. That’s why, it’s not fast food music. It’s that deep, introspection and self reflective music. It’s not meant to bump out the whip. It’s much more intimate than that
Kendrick album was mid & drake pops more because he creates vibes
@@robertpowell2247 fam Nas has deep records that you can play in your whip, good boom bap sounds nice in a car imo
Everyone misses but you can't call yourself The Beatles or MJ and then don't put the effort in. I am a huge Drake stan but he is far from the greats if this is how it's gonna be from now. I know he can do more
Eminem is another example of this, when he puts in effort he can make a great album. But in my opinion his current albums feel like he's always trying to prove something to his haters/critics often to his detriment.
At this point in my opinion Eminem really doesn't have anything else to prove ,if he wanted to he could just put out an album for the f*** of it and have fun with it .
True
Em really have nothing to prove again
I think he should get off the internet its bad for him
Just maybe you guys might like some of the albums on the link below. Have a leap of faith and make thus discovery. Blessings to you all.
ruclips.net/channel/UCj_7o5vq72mkeyGIl5kviRA
@@sirraldnus8590 I think he got off the internet since late 2019
The problem is that proving his haters wrong is what made the MM LP so good, but that was Slim Shady clapping against the Man and the establishment as a relative underdog.
Trying to do the same when you _are_ the establishment and your 'haters' are either fans you left behind or people who miss the Old Eminem is not going to have the same result.
“Drake, they’re gonna turn on you (You) one day too (Too)
And the more you win, the sooner (Sooner) they do
They’ll be calling you a trash bin
Sayin' that your new one isn’t better than your last and
Even if it is, once they start to turn their backs
They ain’t never comin' back in”
- Eminem, Zeus (2020)
The 🐐 predicted it way before
Drake was trash then and now foh
@@tonysparks9453 men lie,women lie….
@@xlivalexander2111 an drake Stans D ride 🤷🏿♂️
@@tonysparks9453 don’t know why you care so much 🤷🏾♂️
Drake is at the point where the only way to go is down. I think Drake would gracefully bow out if he truly felt there was an artist better than him but he's too big for any other artist to fill his shoes. And there are no other artist of that caliber on the horizon. I dont necessarily think that "Honestly Nevermind" is a bad album. But isn't a great one. Drake went from starting the wave to riding them. And there's nothing wrong with that. All the greats do. But unfortunately I don't think there's much more to do. And unfortunately unlike some other greats Drake doesn't have anyone from his ovo family tree that will carry the torch like he did for Wayne. And thats fine. But Drake should either move on to something else like movies. Or do like beyonce and go missing for a while and create the best work of his career. While I respect the fact that he is the most consistent of the artist in the trinity i do feel like he should take some time to find new inspiration. Perhaps that the price of too much success. Maybe he's too busy. Or maybe Drake just throwing stuff out there to build up to something crazy.
In Canada
He'll NEVER be Kanye
"I think Drake would gracefully bow out if he truly felt there was an artist better than him"
That in an of itself is such a profoundly dumb statement.
Drake never started a wave in his life.
"Drake went from starting the wave to riding them"-
Name 1 wave Drake Started and I can give you 6 that Kanye started.
Y’all seriously make the absolute best videos the amount of time y’all take into each one is amazing
SB2H is still one of my favorite albums despite the general consensus about it. He felt like screaming on an album to express himself.
Once I stopped expecting my favorite artists to recreate the same music they did before, I found it easier to enjoy their new records.
Someone said, not sure who it was, that if you want to listen to "Headlines" or "Started from the bottom" or an album like Take Care or whatever album that was good for you, THEN GO LISTEN TO THAT.
They will never recreate the same magic again. Just be present
Handle With Care is definitely one of my favorite Cudi songs
AGREE about Sb2h heavy
I still don’t get why people hate SB2H THAT much. It’s very flawed but there’s so much that it does masterfully
"Ni**as want my old shit, buy my old albums"
- Jay-Z
Also Tech N9ne.
Chance’s new singles are actually really good, especially highs and lows. His next album will likely be a huge improvement over The Big Day and is easily one of my most anticipated albums of the near future.
Chance is so talented we’ve always known that and I’m glad we’re seeing him come back in a different way.
He’s taking the big day’s response in a way drake has refused to ever acknowledge feedback on that way
7:36 Relapse is criminally underrated. It’s dark, quirky, eccentric - it’s a window into a drug relapse. A true concept album.
this new Drake album is still pretty good actually I like this switch up a nice break away point
Every artist has at least one bad/underwhelming album. It’s rare that a artist can have a damn near perfect discography
to me ye is the latter. every album grows on me in a totally different way
@@OMIMmusic jesus is king is an undeniably bad album. yeezus is also too derivative and too tryhard to be taken seriously even if it might not be technically bad
@@jahterminatedlmao5473 your opinion
@@OMIMmusic nah bro u cant tell me that JIK is good. Some things are just objective, otherwise this video wouldnt exist. Like u cant tell me that MBDTF is a bad album. You can say you dont like it, but calling it trash is objectively wrong. You also cant objectively tell me yeezus and JIK are good and well made albums, even though you can personally love them
@@jahterminatedlmao5473 theyre not as popular but are wildly popular in their nieches. + they changed the music industry. most impactful albums together with 808s. yeezus was voted top100 albums of this century together with MBDTF.
everything comes and goes. simple. New venues of hype will kill all old
This channel never seizes to amaze me when it comes to educating me on the culture and the craft. I have a lot more appreciation for the genre thanks to the education I'm getting from this channel. Always looking for the next video, Keep it up.
Ceases not seizes. Totally different words. Just some more education for you 👌
@@Bren10thousand lol but quite right
@@Bren10thousand My guy was trying to be humble and you had to go do him like that lmao
@@Bren10thousand @BrenTenThousand Funny guy. Are you proud of the slight moment of relevance that got you two replies? If your not careful you'll get an education on some other things real quick. 👌
@@IlluminatiSolidier *you’re😭😭😭
There are great rappers / artists that may have that one (or two) missteps / bad albums, and that is not a bad thing.
Nas has Nastradamus, Lupe has LASERS and Drogas Light, Kanye has JIK, HOV has Kingdom Come, etc.
God y’all sun broke bois
Lasers was hard tf
have u listened to DRILL MUSIC IN ZION. The lyricism is nuts
@@100timezcooler I have, that album is fantastic.
JIK is a beautiful album being a Christian album 🤌🏽
Why are people acting like CLB is Drake's first bad album? Views and Scorpion were hot garbage too. Drake understands he can literally put out bullshit and the masses will flock to it. An artist's legacy is dependent on project quality not commercial success.
views was far from garbage, that album was great
@@ronnypooky no views was meh
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@@Grind2Excellence I can’t take music opinions from wackos
Drakes ghostwriters are biting their finger nails after this one
speeding bullet 2 heaven is probably the Cudi album i go back to the most. I Dont think it would have been a 0 if he had released it under another alias.
Should’ve been a WZRD album
Yeah I really enjoyed SBTH and Passion Pain album era because it's cudi at his rawest form
@@OscarGarcia-bq6iw passion pain at least SOUNDS like cudi, he knew what he was doing. SBTH is a joke made my him when he was on drugs and didn’t give a fuck, stop acting like that shit was innovative even rock fans hated that shit
@@OscarGarcia-bq6iw this is so true, those are the two albums whose songs I go back to the most from his catalogue
kendrick joey cole zel carti rocky and outkast have all yet to drop bad albums
I mean if you count Idylwild I’d say Outkast has a miss. Not a huge miss, not The Big Day or anything.
But it’s a step below some of their classics. Given, it’s a movie tie in so I can agree with you if you don’t classify it as a core album
@@itsallenwow ion consider that an album. iss a soundtrack/compilation album under their name and they were already broken up pretty much by then
Wu Tang never really made a good album after Wu Tang Forever, which was a damn shame
Blame capitalism for Drake's entire discography since Views.
When you're too successful to fail and will make millions upon millions anyway, you have no incentive to try. Drake knows that all he had to adhere to a few memes and he's golden.
And acting like Honestly Nevermind was "out of his comfort zone" is laughable. Just because it's a different genre doesn't mean that it isn't the same boring and emotionally-drained singing about his emotional troubles all the while making it obvious that he's exactly the type of person who doesn't deserve love? We've heard it all before. HNM isn't that risky. He's done a similar sound back in his early days but better
Capitalism is a great thing
@@RealOGMudbone with many flaws
@@hiraveil what doesn’t have many flaws?
Boring and emotionally drained singing - exactly! He needs some new writers more than getting 40 to change the genre
@@mandalaqueen828 fr bro always makes songs about the same shit and in the same way
I do not understand why people take Joe Budden serious... he had ONE hit in 2003 from a movie soundtrack, that's it... that's just my personal opinion.
True but I’d say that’s one more hit than most music critics in the history of ever. He’s certainly no gospel on anything hip hop but his takes can hold weight.
Lol you think taking Joe seriously is bad? I will never understand why this channel takes people like Anthony Fantano as a genuine critic.
He's the musical equivalent of a wrestling mark.
@@xlixity 👍🏽
The funniest thing I’ve seen on Twitter was people stating that “you’re too stupid to not get Drake’s new album”
Ummm, nobody thinks Relapse is one of Eminem’s worst albums anymore. Ppl actually put it up with some of his best.
That is true everyone seems to love it now but I’m still saying Revival > Relapse to this day. Everyone gets mad at me for it but I honestly don’t care. Relapse was so bad
@@mrq.1236 that’s cool if you like Revival over Relapse. But Relapse is just better in every single way: concept, creativity, production, skits, rhyme schemes, flows, features, album cover.
I’ll pick relapse over everything he’s done after that
Encore is Eminem’s worst album imo
@@True2ChainzLilWayne nah....curtain call
Not saying that Drake's last two albums weren't mid at best because I think they were... but it seems like everything each top artist drop gets a lot of negative feedback and very little positive feedback... and then it fades into obscurity after a couple months.
I mean no one said that about Kendrick’s new album.
no disrespect but then you may be following the wrong big artists 🤝
good albums get good feedback
More so people are way more critical these days but I think in Drake's case it's deserved Drake's been Mediocre since views but people lied to themselves cause he was on the radio and charts
@@itsallenwow lol what? I love Kendrick and I love MM&TBS but that album definitely got a wave of hate at first it really wasn't until like a week later people really clicked for them
Kanye is the only rapper of his size to never have an objectively bad or even mediocre album. You might not like the gospel sound of Jesus is King, but he undeniably pulled it off well. And as for every other album he's released, they all could be reasonably considered classics.
Nah, Jesus is King lacked in a few departments
fr he’s the greatest
Lmaoo what?? Everything Kanye has released after Graduation has been mediocre and bad at best.
@@JEFFMAN90 cap
@@JEFFMAN90 are you high? He released my beautiful dark twisted fantasy after graduation. You have literally no credibility 💀
Title should be “Why popular artists make Trash Ass Music” 🤷🏽♂️😂
Thank you for that correction! I thought I misread. With the snip of drake on there. 🤣
Drakes new album is ok, Not amazing. It’s not revolutionary in music, but for him being a hip-hop artist, now putting out a full dance-house project, it’s an interesting moment.
50 Cents 4th album is fire. It has some weak songs but overall I love that album.
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I think Drake’s at that point now where if the right artist dropped on the same day, someone could go number one over Drake
That's always been true
@@Bren10thousand Not really. Back in 2018 I can’t imagine any artist would have topped Scorpion in terms of sales
Who’s the right artist?
@@Djseemo1 Olivia rodrigo idk
@@Americahasaproblemchile nope. Not yet at least.
Drake appeals to everyone, Olivia has a majority girl fan base
When you’re in a meat riding competition and Akademiks is your opponent
Nas - illmatic, it was written, I am, stillmatic, lost tapes, gods son, untitled, distant relatives, life is good, kings disease 1, kings disease 2 and Magic with kings disease 3 on the way. What more can that man do?
That Nas statement was some crazy shit. Even the beat selection criticism is overblown, and I feel a lot of this rests on Nastradramus, but if you go back and read the reviews to It Was Written, people were already having a problem saying he sold out for a pop sound with the trackmasters. The criticism doesn't hold up at all.
@@GuavaConQueso Exactly. The hip hop media even back in 96 has somewhat tarnished Nas in a way, because gulliable people that can't think for themselves fell for the narratives that they purposely pushed out there about Nas to elevate other rappers in the public eye to appear above him. Nas is so great that he pushed through all of that and still ends up being at the top.
@@GuavaConQueso which is crazy cuz I think it’s a legit argument that It was Written Is better then illmatic
Yea it annoys me so much, everything always goes back to Illmatic, people always compare it to Illmatic but forget to recognise an album thats even 75% as good as Illmatic is still a classic album. And Nas as you stated has plenty of incredible records, It Was Written is basically on Illmatics level, he released Stillmatic, The Lost Tapes and Gods Son back to back to back, Hip Hop is Dead and Life is Good are good listens and so far his work Hitboy has all been amazing.
@@akshaysundru482 yeah I don’t get the logic of trashing albums after illmatic “cause it’s not illmatic” like the same argument can’t be made for literally EVERY music artist that’s dropped multiple projects lol
What he need to do is release an album every couple of years do not rush have some of the people he know listen to the album and give him honest opinion
Is anyone else cringing watching Budden defend Drake for his bad album right after eviscerating Eminem for his bad album?
Certified Lover Boy was the first album I was actually excited for. It is also the first album that I was disappointed by.
Can't believe ppl were excited for CLB. I felt like once they released the art cover, and even the name we knew what we were getting
@@loppyhero7196 I almost never know one of the musicians I listen to is releasing something new. I usually just find new music. So I got excited for CLB. Not even a hard core Drake fan.
Kid Cudi's Speeding bullet to Heaven is amazingly dope! Its some black afropunk shit most wouldnt undertstand its very niche. I respect it extremely because Cudi was doing it for the art not the bag. Trill!
Y’all got Drake face on this?
People love to put Drake on everything. His face and name get the views.
It's like: Why do the rappers/singers suddenly want to fall down the mountain, even though they are good on their way to climbing further? What I don't understand is, why do they even want to be so experimental if their identity is going great? Em has been disappointing me for years, which totally fucks me up, because he is one of the best of all time. But i could hear an Andre3k verse and that's even better than Em's last 4-5 albums. With Drake is like: where did his hunger go when he made TML, Take Care, NWTS, IYRTITL, etc.? That's why there is too much nostalgia in it and can't take the new projects seriously. I don't know if there will be a Drake album that can keep up with his earlier projects.
You trippin... Kamikaze?? M2BMB??? The wordplay alone from Kamikaze is crazy
@@lesegom7172 kamikaze is the only good em album past mmlp2
@@ReallyJTT M2BMB Side A not good?
@@lesegom7172 its kinda mediocre
@@ReallyJTT a surprise surprise dropping now at 5 mill sold mediocre?? You must have some very high standards
A bad piece of work is completely inevitable. There's not a great artist that has no taste of its own downfall. Great examples would be Kid Cudi's Speeding Bullet 2 Heaven, which was so clouded with his addiction that time but then he got sober and released better albums from there. Eminem's Revival, which was a massive letdown to the great rapper himself, because he seem to find his own sound again with the transition of his voice as he ages, but then released Kamikaze and got back to the top. Drake, on the other hand, does not even care anymore as to how people will perceive his albums. He seems to think that the albums are too genius for his audience to comprehend when in fact, it's just trash as it always is. Soon as people reach the mainstream, they think they're invincible and cannot fail (like the case of Chance The Rapper). An artist's career will always be a slope-has its highs and lows. You can't just set standard for something that's involuntarily coming.
I disagree because Drake music ain’t always been trash. Anything from 2007-2015 was top tier
@@MoMilly96 I know. But after he released In Your Feelings, things don't go it's own for Drake.
@@paulneric4298 that was in 2018
The last decent Drake album was Scorpion. Meaning it was better than CLB and Honestly Nevermind. Views was Drake's first bad album in my opinion. Nothing's been the same (pun intended) since he dropped Nothing Was The Same. I started to lose interest back then with his drowsy delivery on songs like Started From The Bottom. That album was at least good. If you wanna call his first two albums great I won't argue.
I thought views was his peak tbh, i thought it was such a great album. I feel like he started falling off after more life.
If You're Reading This, It's Too Late was the peak
Eminem's Relapse is way underrated. yeah the silly accent can be annoying but the flows, rhymeschemes, punchlines and gritty/serial killer vibes are amazing.It also has some really good Dre beats.
Revival came out in 2017 IIRC and Relapse has been getting more love (and a cult following) as time has gone by. The accents takes some getting used to though i.e. an acquired taste
he made a LOT of year errors in this video
Mainstream success & flopping seem interlinked... Maybe cause wide popularity over prolonged time requires too many compromises & concern for current acceptance of the artist and/or art.
If an MC keeps shit real, never chasing the charts, never giving in to label pressures, never all that concerned with comparing wallets with others, then they're far less likely to let down fans or themselves.
30yrs in, Black Thought has no flop albums.
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I’ve noticed that there’s a tendency of dismissing hits/popular music because it’s simply that, “pop”. Making music that resonates with a larger audience isn’t as easy as people make it seem. If it was, then Drake himself would have another In My Feelings, God’s Plan, Nice For What, Nonstop etc.
Drake has made so many mainstream songs that weren’t even intended to be that. In all honesty, most of his hits don’t even come across as disingenuous or compromised.
i hate when hip-hop artists get hate for doing an album that’s anything but hip-hop 🤦♂️ i love when artists do experimental things bc i always end up enjoying what they make later on and it’s just nice to hear some of my favorite artists of all time do a new sound that i didn’t know i liked and introduce me into a new genre.
Yeah, but there's a reason why Let's Start Here has been praised by everyone while Honestly Nevermind by Drakr or Supermarket by Logic are treated as jokes
To me Drakes album was just for Tik Tok creators to make stupid dances too.
Probably lol
Yep ,greed
Just pure laziness from Drakes last few albums he a celebrity first artist second his persona character n clout been outshining his music for years
10:56 after being trolled into submission 😂😂 I'm dead.
The worst Em albums are ENCORE and REVIVAL. RELAPSE is horror core goodness that takes some time imo
Nah, I liked Encore. Relapse was weird, and I haven't heard Revival yet, but based on the reviews, I'm not sure I wanna. But I think reviews are overblown anyway so I may listen to it.
To me two worst albums are revival (except arose, river, and maybe some more 5 songs) and kamikaze (don't really feel half of it) ngl i just don't enjoy kamikaze that much, but i fk with MTBMB (especially side b), encore, and one of my favorites - relapse, easily top 4 em albums after mmlp, tes and sslp.
@@MiketheNerdRanger half the tracks are good, and the other half and not so good production, it was more so the production
Encore for sure . I had no problem with Revival . Music is subjective
Everybody forget EM dropped 2 albums and RELAPSE IS FUKING FIRE if your into serial killer shit
Relapse is fire
The accent is just annoying
Wiz Khalifa is the face of this. I have never been more let down than him after he signed that deal
When he signed to Atlantic in 2010? His mixtapes are usually still good (Taylor Allerdice, Kush&OJ), but yeah, his albums are usually just okay or mediocre.
@@tiger_lord305 after Taylor allderdice or cabin fever 2 it was just downhill but he got the bag I guess it was best for him
50 before I self destruct was underrated plus he still dropped great mixtapes 🔥
*Don’t forget Kanye’s “Jesus is king” album.. it’s soo bad bruh I couldn’t believe that one of my faves of all time dropped something that’s so mediocre/bad*
*So when “Donda” was announced I was even more worried but it’s an ok record, I barely go back to it and same with “ye” tbh but these are at least bearable compared to JIK💀*
That album is not that bad its just meh what I really don't like is Yeezus how are people saying this is one of his best albums?My ears were bleeding.
Donda 1 is def a another great Project by Kanye.
@@skerion7956 i think Kanye was going for that type of sound especially that rock sound on black skinhead I liked a few songs off that album wasn’t his best but it wasn’t his worse Yeezus is def better than Jesus is king imo
@@bp2000k 🧢
The problem is that many artists are too damn ambitious and some of the projects turn out to be less than the sum of their parts.
Last GOOD Drake album was IYRTITL in my opinion.
That and the collab album with Future. I actually do remember some people hating on IYRTITL when it first dropped, but that changed quickly. I thought they were tripping regardless cuz that was the best Drake album I heard up until that point.
@@tiger_lord305 same here. Not as much radio play as the others but, a solid body of work nonetheless if not his best.
what about dark lane demo tapes? i think that was a solid project but not on the same level as IYRTITL
@@mxo. was that an album or a mixtape/playlist? I did like it but, didn't know how to categorize it.
@@bangemsmurf9349 its a mixtape 👌🏾
I think a couple of reasons why great artists put out bad albums is because all or most of them have ghostwriters or people helping them write their music. People like to pick and choose which artists to pick apart for having ghostwriters when the vast majority of them do. And a lot of times, I believe they have different ghostwriters on certain albums, which is why I think some albums sound worst than others. The other reason I think is because some of these artists have been around for a really long time. Artists like Drake, Nicki Minaj, Eminem, Beyoncé, etc. have been around for well over a decade. They've made all the music they can ever make. It's like, what more can they make at this point? I think these people have been around for so long that they lost a lot of what drew most people to them when they were first introduced.
Drake need to give us a tape or a album with little to no singing THATS WHAT WE WANT
Hell yeah bro Drakes out of tune singing with auto tune is not it… sounds so boring
we need another IYRTITL.
@@ronnypooky bro I stg!!!!
@@ronnypooky if he gives you that and it’s not as good as the first one your gonna call it trash. Trap drake is good here and there not a whole Album
I fw his singing songs too so 🤷🏾
I absolutely agree with Views being boring, Views was an absolutely OUTSTANDING album actually
Drake is always going to chase Kanye’s level of creativity but they are on different tiers.
Yep
i can't believe the artist who has always been mediocre at best is cranking out awful albums now! and he'll keep doing it!!
Happens across all genres, Rock, Country, Blues, etc. The only exception I’ve ever seen escape the curse of the “flop” album is Alice In Chains (and Jerry Cantrell’s solo work) - even after losing one of the greatest frontmen of all time. Black Sabbath could almost boast the same thing, but even they had a black eye on their discography which was surprising. But Yeah its an inevitable there’s going to be a crap release in an artists career.
Even Sabbath with Ozzy made a bad album Technical Ecstasy. They put out 6 straight classics. With the rock bands its usually the drugs that make a bad album along with record company deadlines.
@@bazglsgw1208 Yep, that was the exact album I was referring to. That and the strange "Tony Iomi with Black Sabbath album". Funny you mention the record company deadlines because that's why everyone expected Alice's "Tripod" album to suck because they had just 9 days to complete it. You're absolutely right - pressure from record execs is a huge contributor to flat sounding mediocre albums.
@@HouseFromSmartCity Sure they done it with Lou Reed and he gave them Metal Machine Music haha. I wonder if anyone actually listened to it. Same with WU TANGS RZA he used to put affiliate Killa Bees albums out to help pay his taxes✌(if u dont know Metal Machine Music is just machines running n pots n pans being battered) thats what happenes when you give Lou Reed rip deadlines lol.
Speeding Bullet is very much a window into the depths of agony that is depression. It's horrible to experience cus it's so vividly accurate. So happy he's good now.
That 'My goodness' sigh from Drake was so in character for him 😂😂😂
The new chance single The highs & The lows with joey badass def has a similar sound as his songs back on acid rap. I love it
Chance is making a comeback fr
Drake isn't concerned with what his past fans think. Drake is looking for new fans. That's been clear since Skorpion.
Good point but it’s not working the way it used to because everyone in the world has heard of him before now and already decided if they like him or not. Now he is just making some old fans or listeners think he’s not worth listening to anymore
Really enjoy your content on this channel man. Really cool to learn more and more about hip hop even in its present day
I actually enjoyed that Drake album tbh. But if we're gonna talk about how good Vince Staples album Big Fish Theory which combines EDM and hip-hop seamlessly with experimentation too. Yeah Right with Kendrick, SOPHIE and Flume is an example
7:30 - Not _'Infinite'?_ Not _Encore?_ 🧐
Dude this new album is great put down your analysis lens and feel the music lol
I feel like a lot of the albums that people were shitting on were just too different from what's mainstream. Hiw are you mad at drake for making an album just because it isn't hip-hop? How are we mad at Kudi for trying to explore that Rock sound? Sure a lot of the others were definitely trash, but I personally think, we need to broaden our horizons.
Last album was pretty bad but we can’t deny what he did for music in general. From Club Paradise, Take Care, NWTS and much more, he created a whole vibe that era. I’m very grateful for him.
Joe Budden is not the one to talk he wanted to be a Drake type before Pump It Up - HNM 204,000 sales - the streaming star's lowest opening-week tally for a studio album. Spotify music is free and Wackademics is worse
I must have missed the mark lol. Relapse by Eminem is a classic to me! I love that album.
its eminems most replayable album
If you never evolve the sound then you become the past even from the top, sometimes it works sometimes it's bad it doesn't mean you're bad, just means kill it the next time cause people will always talk about you good or bad, they'll keep talking
Music is not the same. We don't hold the artists of today to the same standard as artists from back in the day. Music videos, performances, and songs used to be crafted so well and carefully. Everything is a joke now.
11:10 that's big cap bro. The singles that chance has released so far for his upcoming album is definitely showing promise for it to being good
Drake thought he could compete with the 🐐 Kendrick
em's biggest problem is refusing to accept that his lack of success recently isn't due to his shit being different, it's because he's old and he's ran outta shit to talk about. he's not angry or hungry anymore, it's not him against the world anymore it's him against himself
It's like the opposite of a gateway to EDM. Drake singlehandedly probably made a bunch of people not want to listen to EDM anymore lmao. Which is sad because there's so many good artists in that scene
How? Jus curious
Do you know what EDM is?
@@Bren10thousand yes genius but how tf would drake make people not want to listen to edm, I mean it is alr becoming less popular but drake is not gonna make that much of a difference lmao
@@NickCageDrippp Idk about becoming less popular but, I think that people are just upset because Drake done something besides the same sound he has been doing before. In some communities people just don't like change and I find that to be very sad
We care way too much about celebrities and ppl making money. I thought I'd see something a little different in video and comments but ppl definitely worship celebrities I'm sold.
By making money I mean even on the bullshit you speak they will eat. There is a 1% for a reason. All you have to do is look around you.
Drake signed his THIRD deal for $500m and has hundreds of millions in sponsorships. He’s probably a billionaire - wouldn’t doubt it.
With that said. Your opinion. My opinion. These videos. Critics.
He doesn’t care. Everyone making these videos cares more about his numbers then he does. He’s a billionaire. He is Drake. These critics need HIM to gain traction, clicks and views. He probably gets more press with a “mid” album. I think Honestly, Nevermind is a BANGER. But it’s also not made for people who don’t like this type of music.
Personally, I love Relapse. I'd say Revival is Em's worst album. My issue with Revival was never "it only had pop features" or "there's no slim shady tracks". The issue to me was the delivery in the songs. In interviews, it's obvious Eminem believes in the stuff he talks about politically on his albums. You see his face turn red, veins popping out, he trying to stop himself from screaming. On the album, he sounds bored. While I personally had no issue with Beyonce and Ed Sheeran being on the album, Em's music was feeling less hip-hop and more mainstream radio since Recovery.
I liked some of Chance's stuff but the writing was on the wall for me with his music. I personally felt like each project was "good but not as good as his last" so I didn't listen to The Big Day until I heard back from others first. To this day, I have yet to listen to a single song on that project.
The issue with Speedin Bullet to Heaven wasn't that it was more of a rock record. Cudi did WZRD a few years prior and it's a good album. You can also hear rock influences on several Cudi projects. This album just felt like a cluster and to make things worse, it was a double album. It was 26 songs that ranged from meh to just awful. I'm also not the biggest fan of Satellite Flight. That thing was marketed as an album but when you take out the instrumentals and skits you get about 4 songs. I don't really listen to Drake so I can't say much about his discography.
it also just had terrible production and terrible mixing. whoever mixed tragic endings needs to be fired ASAP. same with the person who made the bad husband beat, and the person who thought untouchable was an appropriate pre album single. same with the person who thought need me shouldve been on the album. same with the rick rubin tracks. same with the person who let the offended hook slide. same with the person who told em to rap like that on believe.
god there were so many bad decisions on this project
Artist can become captive to their success. Audience demand familiarity more than growth. So the smart artist destroy their career in an effort to rebuild and recalibrate their approach. Wayne, Nas, Jay, etc…all stepped back after looking at the shift in the industry. Build and destroy to build again. Drake trolled the world.
Kid Cudi has amazing fans who were smart enough to call him out for being in a dark place on that record. Thank God he snapped out of it.
You guys are drastically uninformed about chance the rapper. He’s dropped a lot more than a pair of singles since his last album, and he’s also been killing every feature that he’s been on. Y’all need to relax. The big day was not that bad
this yt channels are just boring at this point. time to clean house and look for smtn new.
Imo it was but his new singles are act pretty good hopefully he can make a comeback
They can see that shit on Facebook! They can like it they can share it!
Em was speaking facts when he said “there was a time where you had to sound super different or it was automatic trash, now if you don’t sound like everyone else it’s automatic trash.” Except revival still ass
Facts mtbmb and kamikaze are 🔥 tho
bruh 2017 was a great year of diversity and niche artists getting big BECAUSE they didn't sound like no one else, I mean xxxtentation dropped in 2017. Em was delusional looking for excuses.