Thanks Steve for these videos. We have an old Day and Night early '80s gas furnace and the blower kept switching on and off before and after each cycle. I was working two jobs at the time and had no time to fix it so my mom called a repair man to fix. Unfortunately this guy had no idea what he was doing and replace the blower motor and told her she needed a new furnace. I called b.s. because the heat exchanger was in great condition. I ended up ordering a modern circuit board and limit switch. Furnace is still going strong with no issues today and saved alot of money. Seems to me most companies just want to sell a product out there instead of actually helping the customer. I'm pretty sure Steve would have repaired it like I did the first time
@@dragonarrowana If any of our people had charged more than $400 - and that for a very, very time consuming install - I'd have refunded the money (in total), fired their sorry a*** and blacklisted them with every single firm in the area, and after being in business for over three generations, I know everyone. (And yes, one of my grandchildren just got his first license and was made full partner!!!!!! Yay! He did it like it did, four year BS first, then license, then seven years hard slog. He may not know quite as much about the newest networked systems as I do, but he'll soon know more if I'm doing my job right.)
Old Tappan, Worked on a bunch of those! You were lucky it had the bar over the burners, otherwise the brainless twits used a 1/2" nut to hold them down. If you add too much air to the burner, BOOM! I learned the hard way. The furnace was a tank, old steel heat exchangers.
250?! That’s it?! They want to charge me 250 for the gas valve alone. Then 250 for labor. Plus replacement of the other bad part and the labor. 1,000 bucks total.
Mookie Man I tried to order one online that was about 100 cheaper but they told me I had to buy one from them or they wouldn’t fix it. So I told them to get out.
You could usually find online for cheaper if you look and have time on your hands. Usually the price us techs isn’t that great since we’re sort of paying for convenience factor on top of us paying more than what you could find it online we add a percentage on top of what it costs us so that’s why the price is higher.
Phone books I'm not even sure if they're still being printed around here.. but Steve's lucky if he's got ads in them going back several years.. might still get calls for another 20 years because of it!
I wouldn't think the thermocouple would be bad because you have a pilot light but with a new gas valve I would agree to install a new thermocouple as well
You should back wrench your wrenching also always use a flat wrench on valves and shut offs. Otherwise I think your an excellent plumber gas fitter as iam myself
I'm from the UK have worked on gas appliances for fifty years, let me ask you Steve why did you cut through a good thermocouple that was working properly if it wasn't you would have had no gas at the pilot , and why not just change the solenoid part of the job instead of complete valve with all the Labour involved should have been a half hour job at most, just saying
disconnect the thermocouple from the gas valve, put your multimeter on the end you disconnect from the gas valve in your black lead on the ground...and then get your torch out that you solder with and heat up the thermocouple if it rises and voltage that it's not the thermocouple
or if the heater will stay lit long enough light the heater if it rises and voltage when it heats the thermocouple it's not the thermocouple... Setting DC voltage
Naah, that was an orderly shit show. A real shit show would have been if the threads on that burner manifold were stripped or if the unit had major rollout when it was put back together (cracked heat exchanger). That’s a shitshow! 😉 Nice repair Steve!
@@potatolew4495 yes. And should change the thermostat also because they don't cost that much. Also may as well change all three temp switches as they are fairly inexpensive. Also the mainboard fuse, as it's really cheap! Lol. Not me. I don't sell my customers one thing they don't need unless they request it.
We’ve mostly stopped repairing furnaces older than 20-30 years old unless in good visual condition and regularly serviced. It’s makes us look bad when it just fails again and again as parts continue to wear out. Especially when they may be risking thousands in damage from frozen pipes if it fails on a cold day and we’re backlogged 2-3 days. WHen they are badly rusted out from damp basements and lack of service (condensate leaks), we just condem them. Too many call backs, we just lose money on them chasing electrical gremlins and cascading failures. This one doesn’t look too bad, but it just needs to go away and get replaced. Newer units are just dramatically more serviceable, and more efficient.
I had a guy (no from my city) come out and charged me 500 dollars for the gas valve. My furnace was at the time 3 years old. I thought it was so over priced. He took adv of me.
I just replaced my Goodman with another Goodman. The old Goodman was still running OK with a good heat exchanger but the new furnace is quieter and has a variable speed blower. A lot of people complain about Goodman equipment but the furnaces and condensing units are easy to repair and parts are inexpensive and easy to find.
Why does every old ass furnace with the old "push / pull limit" has the cover lost? Poof gone. Up and vanished like a fart in the wind. Hate to say it but those new dial t-stats are junk.
Written estimates are for when you want to think about it or shop around... If your home was in the 50s and the guy is already there telling you how much, thats all u need
I agree with the thermocouple.. I don't know why you didn't remove the flame shield to remove burner/pilot assembly..... I'd first look at heat exchanger with camera. If it had a flake or crack; I'd condemn it.
Steve’s a generous and respectful guy, hard to find these kind of guys anywhere
Not all heros wear capes. Good job Steve. You won’t leave the premises until you know nothing is leaking and it is safe!
Thanks Steve for these videos. We have an old Day and Night early '80s gas furnace and the blower kept switching on and off before and after each cycle. I was working two jobs at the time and had no time to fix it so my mom called a repair man to fix. Unfortunately this guy had no idea what he was doing and replace the blower motor and told her she needed a new furnace. I called b.s. because the heat exchanger was in great condition. I ended up ordering a modern circuit board and limit switch. Furnace is still going strong with no issues today and saved alot of money. Seems to me most companies just want to sell a product out there instead of actually helping the customer. I'm pretty sure Steve would have repaired it like I did the first time
Steve, you have so much experience and it's a pleasure that you share that through your video's!
Guy you have me dieing with your videos. Your brutally honest we need that these days. Keep pluggin.
I think that was the first time I heard Steve give a price
I think he posted it for a reason t oo. " If you want to strip price, Im going to go higher..."
The same job I was charged $800 cash by a local HVAC do you think it's too much? And he didn't do any combustion test like in this video?
@@dragonarrowana If any of our people had charged more than $400 - and that for a very, very time consuming install - I'd have refunded the money (in total), fired their sorry a*** and blacklisted them with every single firm in the area, and after being in business for over three generations, I know everyone.
(And yes, one of my grandchildren just got his first license and was made full partner!!!!!! Yay! He did it like it did, four year BS first, then license, then seven years hard slog. He may not know quite as much about the newest networked systems as I do, but he'll soon know more if I'm doing my job right.)
Probably was lol
I wish I had a guy like you fixing my old wall heater
Holy Smokes Mama that's a high stack temp! Miss Molly decided to take the day off and chill around the house.
That's a better price than a new furnace!
It's easy to walk away but you always stick it out, great job. That stack temperature is awful high though.
Nice flame when you were done Steve, good job .
“If you want a strict price, it’s gonna be higher” yep that’s what I’d say too
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Do you have a carbon monoxide detector upstairs. Those cheap ones usually go off when their wheeling the body out of the building.
Old Tappan, Worked on a bunch of those! You were lucky it had the bar over the burners, otherwise the brainless twits used a 1/2" nut to hold them down. If you add too much air to the burner, BOOM! I learned the hard way. The furnace was a tank, old steel heat exchangers.
Bill, where these built by Nortek? Wonder what year. I am sure this was the third gas valve it has had.
Great one Steve yep it’s definitely a crusty one
What are you looking for when you pull out a themo couple? .... aren't they suppose to have some kind of resistance?
250?! That’s it?! They want to charge me 250 for the gas valve alone. Then 250 for labor. Plus replacement of the other bad part and the labor. 1,000 bucks total.
Ronnie Richmond different gas valves cost different amounts. Just like Honda vs Mercedes
@@MookieMan1 Along those lines the $100 one probably lasts twice as long too
Mookie Man I tried to order one online that was about 100 cheaper but they told me I had to buy one from them or they wouldn’t fix it. So I told them to get out.
You could usually find online for cheaper if you look and have time on your hands. Usually the price us techs isn’t that great since we’re sort of paying for convenience factor on top of us paying more than what you could find it online we add a percentage on top of what it costs us so that’s why the price is higher.
That's crazy ridiculous. It's not that difficult to do that. Spending that kind of money would make me consider replacing the furnace.
Was that their "carbon monoxide detector" I kept hearing 🐦🐦🐦
I wish you lived close to us..We need an honest guy to check our 40 year old Furnace..Still running pretty good
When Steve pulls out the old testo 320 you know it's gonna be good! Thanks Steven.
Phone books I'm not even sure if they're still being printed around here.. but Steve's lucky if he's got ads in them going back several years.. might still get calls for another 20 years because of it!
What a crusty beast. Bet it’s a 60% unit. At least you’ll never have condensation issues lol.
Moses put that gas valve on lol.
Wow! That belongs to a museum 😅🔥
I wouldn't think the thermocouple would be bad because you have a pilot light but with a new gas valve I would agree to install a new thermocouple as well
Steven lavimonier I like your utube videos are awesome 👍👍😎👍💯💯
hey Denis here from ct it may be a dumb question but what's the gauge sappoed to read workin correctly????
I’m confused by a seeming lack of an inducer fan. Do really old furnaces not have them?
No they don't.
Give it the ol how ya doin!!!!!!
Nice job. Very honest up front .
Good vid. Thanks Steve.
There's a bird in the house mama !!
Hey Steve what brand is that little co detector you have? Thanks buddy!
It's a Sensorcon Inspector
@19:30 That's the second customer lately that used the phone book.
Miss Molly better off being home. She probably does not want to sit in a cold truck.
Truck is heated.
Great Videos Steve
I remember when you had 30,000 subscribers, you got alot more now.
The old bobby-shaw gas valves lol
is that a belt on the blower ?. as wow that is old.
Surprised you didn’t ask him about the air filter, if it need changing?
petermazbabie not everything is on camera.
You could see the filter right next to the fan motor in the video.
Marcus yes that’s not what I asked, it’s weather it’s clean? He normally asks if the air filter is clean.
@@petermaz701 my point is if he can see it why would he ask the customer if it's clean... Lol
@Google User only wrong if the ductwork is undersized and there's no way you could tell it was clogged from the backside of the filter lol
At 32:11 was the second burner from the right ,flame burning underneath the burner?
Steve Molly's days must be off she thought it was Saturday play time. Peace brother and Molly
Steve I wish you were in south jersey 😕 Hard to find good work and trustworthy.
You're a good man!
You got pretty steady hand with that little screw driver Steven
You should back wrench your wrenching also always use a flat wrench on valves and shut offs. Otherwise I think your an excellent plumber gas fitter as iam myself
Steve- is that Fieldpiece dual port manometer the SDMN5 or SDMN6? Just curious- it looks like a good instrument! Thanks for the video!
I'm from the UK have worked on gas appliances for fifty years, let me ask you Steve why did you cut through a good thermocouple that was working properly if it wasn't you would have had no gas at the pilot , and why not just change the solenoid part of the job instead of complete valve with all the Labour involved should have been a half hour job at most, just saying
Colin Filer bet you've never seen the inside of a boiler in your life, stick to taxi driving mush
Oh yeah that is one old unit lol 😂 cool 😎 Peace ✌️
U resurrected that old beast
“When she’s playing games I leave her at home” sounds like me when my wife is getting ready
A backup wrench would be a good idea. 40yr and always use one
Obviously the gas valve or the thermocouple wouldn’t hold a keep the pilot better to do both now your great bro
Working in shit like that I would charge by the hour too , around here lots of companies around here would not work on a old unit like that .
Shit- show....that's the spirit, Steve!
Why would you not check the thermocouple before you replace the gas value?
Great job and video
disconnect the thermocouple from the gas valve, put your multimeter on the end you disconnect from the gas valve in your black lead on the ground...and then get your torch out that you solder with and heat up the thermocouple if it rises and voltage that it's not the thermocouple
or if the heater will stay lit long enough light the heater if it rises and voltage when it heats the thermocouple it's not the thermocouple... Setting DC voltage
Naah, that was an orderly shit show. A real shit show would have been if the threads on that burner manifold were stripped or if the unit had major rollout when it was put back together (cracked heat exchanger). That’s a shitshow! 😉 Nice repair Steve!
Steve was one to raise your rates sir! $400 minimum for gas valve. When demand is great raise your rate (I hear you turning down work sometimes)
One thing about doing these videos is that you don't have to worry about anyone stuffing you on a bill. It would be an open and closed case in court.
I don't understand why you seem to always change the thermocouple when the old one is obviously working fine?
Installing a new valve why not as they cost about 20.00.
@@potatolew4495 yes. And should change the thermostat also because they don't cost that much. Also may as well change all three temp switches as they are fairly inexpensive. Also the mainboard fuse, as it's really cheap! Lol. Not me. I don't sell my customers one thing they don't need unless they request it.
They have a conure, I can hear it in the background:)
what is Thermocouple ? and what's it does ? Thank you ^_^
They still make phone books? Haven't seen one in probly 10 years or so!
no draft inducer? it just flames up? and that old upper & lower fan limit switch... what a beast.
Those furnaces are beasts and they are very reliable too.
Miss Molly is regretting every minute of it. She’s just trying to get ya to open up and play with her.
L pop
Not a fan of those old natural draft/upshot burner furnaces. Looks like most of the heat generated goes right up the flue pipe. Time for a new unit.
Steve when you going to do some more cooking shows. i'm hungry!
You the man!
I agree ☝️
MISS MOLLY TOOK A SICK DAY....WE ALL NEED SOME QUIET TIME ALONE
Hey Steve, Do you ever answer any of your followers questions???
Where’d you get my number? The phone book!?!
wouldn't it been safer to check for gas leak before firing that beats up???
250? Jesus talk about a deal.
Yea Steve was more than fair.
i charge 250 just for the gas valve
that was just lay-ba...parts was extra
Steven lavimonier I think the home owner need a new gas furnace 🤔🤔
We’ve mostly stopped repairing furnaces older than 20-30 years old unless in good visual condition and regularly serviced. It’s makes us look bad when it just fails again and again as parts continue to wear out. Especially when they may be risking thousands in damage from frozen pipes if it fails on a cold day and we’re backlogged 2-3 days.
WHen they are badly rusted out from damp basements and lack of service (condensate leaks), we just condem them. Too many call backs, we just lose money on them chasing electrical gremlins and cascading failures.
This one doesn’t look too bad, but it just needs to go away and get replaced. Newer units are just dramatically more serviceable, and more efficient.
High stack temperature is not a bad thing means clean complete combustion.
Means way to much heat is wasted up the stack . They was what they was back then but they are lucky to get 60% of the heat produced into the house
I had a guy (no from my city) come out and charged me 500 dollars for the gas valve. My furnace was at the time 3 years old. I thought it was so over priced. He took adv of me.
Haha bad everything. That furnace filter would hi the unit outnformsure too
The furnace looked like it was from the late 50's into the 60's. I would guess about 55% efficient. The owner must have "money to burn".
Stack temp was really high, wonder why
I’m sorry you are right.
Geez look at that filter.
Oh miss molly
whats that woman screaming at the back at 9:05
Made by same company that made the magic chef line
my 30 year old furnace just bit the dust and died and now i'm getting a new one installed it was a carrier
I just replaced my Goodman with another Goodman. The old Goodman was still running OK with a good heat exchanger but the new furnace is quieter and has a variable speed blower. A lot of people complain about Goodman equipment but the furnaces and condensing units are easy to repair and parts are inexpensive and easy to find.
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Where'd you get my number he says in surprise, like what the hell, how dare you...
Why does every old ass furnace with the old "push / pull limit" has the cover lost? Poof gone. Up and vanished like a fart in the wind. Hate to say it but those new dial t-stats are junk.
Don't you write written estimates?
HA. Steve is like, here is the price. You want heat or not.
Written estimates are for when you want to think about it or shop around... If your home was in the 50s and the guy is already there telling you how much, thats all u need
@@WeatherNut27 right
Geesh all that junk piled around that furnace?
Catch me if you can 😊
at 2:16.....is it me, or does that blower unit look backwards?
the thermocouple was good because the pilot was on that s the purpose of it bad diagnostic
i think the pilot is to high
I think you jump the gun. It was probably just a bad thermocouple. And not a a gas valve. Ok 👍.
Gerard Dasilva plus you can just check the millivoltage with a tester
I agree with the thermocouple.. I don't know why you didn't remove the flame shield to remove burner/pilot assembly..... I'd first look at heat exchanger with camera. If it had a flake or crack; I'd condemn it.
@@MrBugsier5 depends on gas valve. Some old furnaces have pilots gas that stay on even though pilots are not burning.
@@garyglanz403 yep .. saw many that had no thermocouple.
Always replace the thermocouple unless your familiar w the furnace and know the last time it was replaced. A lot cheaper than a call back.
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