Leave it alone put new draft motor on . The flame looked good. Age doesn't matter as long as safe. Today units are in the thousands. Especially older people will not see any pay back.
I'm running the original Borg Warner from 1979 in this house. Has an intermittent pilot (spark ignition). Maybe not the most efficient by today's standards, but reliable with a build quality just not really seen anymore. Minnesota winters so it gets quite a workout each season. I have replaced the fan limit switch in it a couple of times and the blower motor once when the original went up in smoke,
Yeah, the guy had the electric utility do an energy audit and shocker they told him to turn off his gas and install an electric heat pump. There are always suckers for lies and the big corporations, media and politicians count on it.
That was a three wire pilot, those use to chatter alot. When the pilot was lit, it heated a bimetal that warped over to make the mv. they used to "hunt" and start chattering. Anyways if you pulled those heat exchangers, that gen used to crack bad on the outside cells. In the 90's I changed a ton of those cells, not bad, 1 1/2 job charged them 4 hrs labor to cover costs.
My Goodman furnace started making all kinds of noise. I found that a manufacturer sticker had come loose and was rubbing on the squirrel cage fan. It made quite a racket.
My new Goodman furnace started to make a series of varied electrical snapping noises after the cycle stopped ,had me worried but found out it was a dirty filter causing the noise.
Heat pumps specifically designed for cold climates are readily available. Mitsubishi, LG and Daikin all make good models. Mitsubishi even makes a dual fuel unit for areas that go below 0° F. Very important, size the unit to the heat load!
@@stevenlavimoniere and add to that the cost of electricity has also sky rocketed too over past year . Most peoples electric bills have doubled or even more with no change in usage. I agree totally would NOT be a good choice.
@@stevenlavimoniere here in Manitoba, when they install a Heat Pump, they also install a small furnace to help take up the slack on those really cold days. With the cost of electricity and gas here, I don't think its worth the cost, no matter the rebates. I'll stick with my gas furnace and water heater. (electric rates are currently 9.324 cents per kWh. gas is 18.78 cents per cubic meter).
It’s the uninsulated homes that heat pumps struggle with. The older style homes that have a lot of infiltration but on newer homes they want the heat pumps only or dual fuel
I run my heat pump to 20 degrees and have LP backup. Works well here in NE IN. Prob wouldn't recommend one without a gas furnace paired with it. HP/air handler with aux strip is costly and the ductless mini splits with no strip to take over ac in defrost is dumb. Gubment knows best
Regarding the small motor repair....couldn't have been any better. That motor likely is old enough that it requires a drop or two of oil on those friction surfaces/bearings. This oil job could last for years !
Another case of when they made furnaces good .If that was mine Id just replace that fan motor last another 43 years,LOLLL! Do a combustion test if good leave alone. I wouldnt change the furnace thats crazy over a well used fan motor with bearing noise...............................
I installed a heat pump in upstate NY near Syracuse… LG 48k and a 24k Red with a high a and low statistic ducted system. Averages $6-$8 a day. Worst day was $10.50 at 6-12* . Nyseg is .15 kWh. Propane baseboard is $8-$18 a day….and now I have air also. I part time at a heating and plumbing company and learning a lot and did all the work myself and I’m 74 . New heat pumps are complicated and are inverter controlled….always a moving target. You need a laptop or smartphone for analysis.
I would oil that motor every time I would change the filter ( monthly). The draft damper would be engineered to stay open. Keep the rollout switch for safety.
Here in quebec everyone buy heat pumps, even the cheaper ones heat well till 23F. The high efficiency mini split can heat till -22F but they consume more electricity at these temps due to defrost cycles.
@@robertp7209 Quebec has an overabundance of Hydro power , At one time they were using " B " energy electric heaters on oil furnaces , They are mostly all on electric heat and HP , Little Nat. Gas there; Their KW rate is half of Ontario's rate ; Ontario is mostly on natural gas .
Air source heat pumps are inverse to the heat requirements " The colder it is outside the less heat they make ; The new inverter H.P. run the compressor faster when it's colder but the efficiency drops below COP of 2 ; In warmer weather 5 C. the COP is near 4 ; or 1 unit of energy yields 4 in heat.
@@michelgrenier1878 yeh since electric is cheap. Had an old college buddy in PA, USA. Years ago. Higher altitude, required construction for new and additions was 6 inch studs for more insulation, they burned coal plenty of it around for power plants. Electric was dirt cheap. Couldn’t believe he had electric baseboard heating throughout house, each room had a thermostat. Massive electric service to house. We in downstate NY have natural gas and oil, no one in their right mind would have electric resistance heating. Costs would be I’d say more than 5x as much. There are days we get down in single digits, not many, but we have them. Mostly upper teens and 20s in winter on cold days. Warm days above freezing during the day.
Proper heat pump installs have more ducts and registers to evenly distribute the air. Heated air is cooler with a heat pump than from forced air heated by gas or electric. At least the lateral ducting needs to be insulated and better is all ducts be insulated.
Electric heat pumps may work in cold temps these days however, who is paying the electric bill ? The state or the resident ? That's where the buck stops as the price of natural gas, LPG, Oil and power all have to be looked into before suggesting to use one source all year round or split it with gas/electric or all gas heat pumps which are very scarce to find. Gas air conditioning works very good yet where are they??
@@robertp7209 The state has two localized climates. South Georgia is probably short. But up state Georgia, near the TN state line where i live. And in the mountains. Has a little longer heating season, with more bitterly cold days. We don't get too much snow here though.
I would put a 80 % furnace with a heat pump condenser. You can run the heat pump 35 degrees above without any issues. By the way it will make more sense on a oil furnace.
They say Europe has been using high efficiency stuff for a long time. They don’t tell you they are also having issues with them for a long time. Keep it simple 👍
Yep...keep it simple guys. People here in the UK are complaining that heat pumps are not warming their homes enough and are ripping them out after spending tens of thousands ££. Don't get conned by the 'Net Zero' bullshit...forcing people to get rid of their old gas boilers for crap heat pumps. I will stick with my old gas boiler for as long as I can.
Im from Maine and people who installed them have buyers remorse..Very expensive on the electricity bill.. Not a great idea in cold weather states. Cmp increased our electricity rate 49 % and will be increasing again..
The safeties usually will indicate an issue with the heat exchanger. Plus a combustion test will deff tell but there’s a few easy ways of doing it. Turn gas off and run the blower fan only. Use a stick lighter on the pilot tubes and if air is moving the flame then you know the heat exchanger is compromised. When it heats up it expands even more
Yea i am kind of skeptical about them too. They have the same dilemma as EV's. We are so much in a rush, too get too this era where everything is electric powered. But the technology is just still not there yet.
I agree with Steve, heat pumps could never keep up in the colder ares. The grid is having trouble keeping up at this point, how does anyone think it will keep up if we go all electric? Sorry,don’t charge your car when you get home, turn your air conditioner up, turn your heat down. Makes no sense.
LOL That old jalopy, is actually more reliable then some of the new stuff out their. May not be as efficient. But they have probably lived a lot longer then half of today's furnaces. They just don't make thing tough as a tank, or with the sort of quality like they used to anymore.
@@KenKen-ui4ny I agree Ken, new furnaces and boilers design criteria is to meet EPA standards and set the lowest price point. I believe the old criteria for design was make it reliability and serviceable.
Heat pump? No way man, stick with natural gas. It's a lot cheaper to heat your home. You need to have a very cheap heating bill and very high home energy efficiency rating BEFORE considering going with a heat pump.
Leave it alone put new draft motor on . The flame looked good. Age doesn't matter as long as safe. Today units are in the thousands. Especially older people will not see any pay back.
My gas boiler lasted 57 years before I needed to replace it!
They doubled electricity prices this winter to pay for the heat pump subsidies. That was a dirty trick.
I'm running the original Borg Warner from 1979 in this house. Has an intermittent pilot (spark ignition). Maybe not the most efficient by today's standards, but reliable with a build quality just not really seen anymore. Minnesota winters so it gets quite a workout each season. I have replaced the fan limit switch in it a couple of times and the blower motor once when the original went up in smoke,
The sharp cutoff in the end Steve was fed up with his opinion....and I agree. The guy is listening to the wrong people!
Yeah, the guy had the electric utility do an energy audit and shocker they told him to turn off his gas and install an electric heat pump.
There are always suckers for lies and the big corporations, media and politicians count on it.
All they care about is the $10k rebate 🤦🏻♂️
That was a three wire pilot, those use to chatter alot. When the pilot was lit, it heated a bimetal that warped over to make the mv. they used to "hunt" and start chattering. Anyways if you pulled those heat exchangers, that gen used to crack bad on the outside cells. In the 90's I changed a ton of those cells, not bad, 1 1/2 job charged them 4 hrs labor to cover costs.
My Goodman furnace started making all kinds of noise. I found that a manufacturer sticker had come loose and was rubbing on the squirrel cage fan. It made quite a racket.
My new Goodman furnace started to make a series of varied electrical snapping noises after the cycle stopped ,had me worried but found out it was a dirty filter causing the noise.
@gun fisher does every furnace have a filter?
@@eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-s3p - Every furnace should have a filter somewhere on the return air path.
Heat pumps specifically designed for cold climates are readily available. Mitsubishi, LG and Daikin all make good models. Mitsubishi even makes a dual fuel unit for areas that go below 0° F. Very important, size the unit to the heat load!
Heat pumps in Maine do NOT work that great. Below about 20 degrees they don't work. Maine has a lot of days below 20.
i told they guy he will be sorry if he goes down that road
@@stevenlavimoniere and add to that the cost of electricity has also sky rocketed too over past year . Most peoples electric bills have doubled or even more with no change in usage. I agree totally would NOT be a good choice.
@@stevenlavimoniere here in Manitoba, when they install a Heat Pump, they also install a small furnace to help take up the slack on those really cold days. With the cost of electricity and gas here, I don't think its worth the cost, no matter the rebates. I'll stick with my gas furnace and water heater. (electric rates are currently 9.324 cents per kWh. gas is 18.78 cents per cubic meter).
I live in Maine. Heat pump are going in like crazy. But if you’re house is older who will have to upgrade your electrical service.
It’s the uninsulated homes that heat pumps struggle with. The older style homes that have a lot of infiltration but on newer homes they want the heat pumps only or dual fuel
KISS!
Thanks again for the videos!😎🇺🇲🍺🍺🍺🥃🥃
I run my heat pump to 20 degrees and have LP backup. Works well here in NE IN. Prob wouldn't recommend one without a gas furnace paired with it. HP/air handler with aux strip is costly and the ductless mini splits with no strip to take over ac in defrost is dumb. Gubment knows best
Maine is to cold for a heat pump . You will be on auxiliary heat half the winter
Regarding the small motor repair....couldn't have been any better. That motor likely is old enough that it requires a drop or two of oil on those friction surfaces/bearings. This oil job could last for years !
I have an old fan (14 years) as part of an appliance. Gets noisy. Sintered bearings get a few drops every month and that keeps it quiet.
Nice save.
I love This channel ❤️
Me too!!
Great Video. Thank you for sharing
Another case of when they made furnaces good .If that was mine Id just replace that fan motor last another 43 years,LOLLL! Do a combustion test if good leave alone. I wouldnt change the furnace thats crazy over a well used fan motor with bearing noise...............................
The ring at the solenoids is broken. You can use the 12v dc instead of 24 v ac.
Good job Steve.
Took a long time for the blower fan to come on, maybe overheating of the heat exchanger?
The start capacitor is probably on it way out.
Doesn’t RUclips allow to edit the titles? I love these vids Steve!
Yet another kick ass video Steve! 💥☝️👍👌
Nice work
I installed a heat pump in upstate NY near Syracuse… LG 48k and a 24k Red with a high a and low statistic ducted system. Averages $6-$8 a day. Worst day was $10.50 at 6-12* . Nyseg is .15 kWh. Propane baseboard is $8-$18 a day….and now I have air also. I part time at a heating and plumbing company and learning a lot and did all the work myself and I’m 74 . New heat pumps are complicated and are inverter controlled….always a moving target. You need a laptop or smartphone for analysis.
Also LG red is good till -13*…. But cop is around 1.3 at 30* is at around 3.0 cop.
I would oil that motor every time I would change the filter ( monthly). The draft damper would be engineered to stay open. Keep the rollout switch for safety.
Good job Steve!
Great Video Steve
Here in quebec everyone buy heat pumps, even the cheaper ones heat well till 23F. The high efficiency mini split can heat till -22F but they consume more electricity at these temps due to defrost cycles.
What fuel is used up there?
@@robertp7209 Quebec has an overabundance of Hydro power , At one time they were using " B " energy electric heaters on oil furnaces , They are mostly all on electric heat and HP , Little Nat. Gas there; Their KW rate is half of Ontario's rate ; Ontario is mostly on natural gas .
Air source heat pumps are inverse to the heat requirements " The colder it is outside the less heat they make ; The new inverter H.P. run the compressor faster when it's colder but the efficiency drops below COP of 2 ; In warmer weather 5 C. the COP is near 4 ; or 1 unit of energy yields 4 in heat.
@@michelgrenier1878 yeh since electric is cheap. Had an old college buddy in PA, USA. Years ago. Higher altitude, required construction for new and additions was 6 inch studs for more insulation, they burned coal plenty of it around for power plants. Electric was dirt cheap. Couldn’t believe he had electric baseboard heating throughout house, each room had a thermostat. Massive electric service to house. We in downstate NY have natural gas and oil, no one in their right mind would have electric resistance heating. Costs would be I’d say more than 5x as much. There are days we get down in single digits, not many, but we have them. Mostly upper teens and 20s in winter on cold days. Warm days above freezing during the day.
Howdy Steve and Molly
Proper heat pump installs have more ducts and registers to evenly distribute the air. Heated air is cooler with a heat pump than from forced air heated by gas or electric. At least the lateral ducting needs to be insulated and better is all ducts be insulated.
Hello Steve how's the new truck running
Hello Steve!
Electric heat pumps may work in cold temps these days however, who is paying the electric bill ? The state or the resident ? That's where the buck stops as the price of natural gas, LPG, Oil and power all have to be looked into before suggesting to use one source all year round or split it with gas/electric or all gas heat pumps which are very scarce to find. Gas air conditioning works very good yet where are they??
State of Georgia is all heat pumps they no longer allow gas combos.
@@GoatzombieBubba a lot warmer down there, and shorter cold season. Not New England.
@@GoatzombieBubba You still allowed to have gas heat in Georgia.
@@robertp7209 The state has two localized climates. South Georgia is probably short. But up state Georgia, near the TN state line where i live. And in the mountains. Has a little longer heating season, with more bitterly cold days. We don't get too much snow here though.
I can't wait to see the replacement vidioe 😊😊 can u do a replacement vid on it !
Boy this guy would believe the gmen if they told him to heat his house with matchbooks.
gment says use light bulbs not matchbooks
As the winter become more and more mild in the north east we will see more heat pumps in use.
Other than your EPA 608 license, what else do you need to operate your own HVAC company where your state?
Sounds like it was his Wife "Snoring"! It aint no TajMahal!
He loudly lauded the loader of the furnace! It just needed a smattering of lube.
Fire Hazard all that stuff near the furnace
After she does her business Miss Molly gonna be running back in the house real quick the next few days
The problem with listening to the Mass energy people, is they aren’t the ones who actually work on the systems.
lol...The pretty much stopped talking when you talked about putting lube on that baby. 😆
No heat pumps up north w/o back up.
Steve: “Keep it simple, goddamnit.” Customer: “But but but but but but”
Jesus Christ, you couldn’t pay me enough to deal with these people.
What kind of oil was that?
That can of 3&1 oil just cost 100 bucks.
Heat Pumps LOL
Steve what's that oil you use ?
High efficiency furnaces are terrible because the heat exchanger rots out because of moisture
I would put a 80 % furnace with a heat pump condenser. You can run the heat pump 35 degrees above without any issues. By the way it will make more sense on a oil furnace.
You have had a few easy ones , the hard ones are on there way .
They say Europe has been using high efficiency stuff for a long time. They don’t tell you they are also having issues with them for a long time. Keep it simple 👍
Yep...keep it simple guys. People here in the UK are complaining that heat pumps are not warming their homes enough and are ripping them out after spending tens of thousands ££.
Don't get conned by the 'Net Zero' bullshit...forcing people to get rid of their old gas boilers for crap heat pumps.
I will stick with my old gas boiler for as long as I can.
Deadass 😂😂
@@tonymanero5544 Only monster trucks in the US. And they are pushing solar lol.
Im from Maine and people who installed them have buyers remorse..Very expensive on the electricity bill.. Not a great idea in cold weather states. Cmp increased our electricity rate 49 % and will be increasing again..
Heat pumps are good for the southern states, even the new ones. This guy was fed a plateful of bs
My moms forced air Furnace is 42 years old
Steven, do you ever check the heat exchangers on those old gas furnaces for cracks 🤔
The safeties usually will indicate an issue with the heat exchanger. Plus a combustion test will deff tell but there’s a few easy ways of doing it. Turn gas off and run the blower fan only. Use a stick lighter on the pilot tubes and if air is moving the flame then you know the heat exchanger is compromised. When it heats up it expands even more
39 years dangis
Dood bought a haunted house :)
Heat pumps.. They don't make. Heat under 15 degrees and I'm in Tennessee. Shyte.. Mass saves isn't saving you guys a dang thing
Yea i am kind of skeptical about them too. They have the same dilemma as EV's. We are so much in a rush, too get too this era where everything is electric powered. But the technology is just still not there yet.
Only needs a few drops of oil every 40 years!!!!
Heat pumps are junk, just more things that can go wrong with them. Hope the guy understood later that you are right.
she's a crusty one Mr Grinch
I agree with Steve, heat pumps could never keep up in the colder ares. The grid is having trouble keeping up at this point, how does anyone think it will keep up if we go all electric? Sorry,don’t charge your car when you get home, turn your air conditioner up, turn your heat down. Makes no sense.
They certainly don't build them like this anymore!!! ALL junk today!!!!
40 years not 43 lol
he calls that noisy!?
Are HVAC & Boiler technicians like car mechanics?
Keep their old jalopy running and never buy new cars.
LOL That old jalopy, is actually more reliable then some of the new stuff out their. May not be as efficient. But they have probably lived a lot longer then half of today's furnaces. They just don't make thing tough as a tank, or with the sort of quality like they used to anymore.
@@KenKen-ui4ny I agree Ken, new furnaces and boilers design criteria is to meet EPA standards and set the lowest price point. I believe the old criteria for design was make it reliability and serviceable.
I wish I had some of that special oil . would try it on the wife if you know what I mean haha 😂 good job Steve. . 🇬🇧🇬🇧
It won’t work. Just makes it worse!
Coconut oil for the wife and turbine oil ( Ace Hardware) for the fan.
Heat pump? No way man, stick with natural gas. It's a lot cheaper to heat your home. You need to have a very cheap heating bill and very high home energy efficiency rating BEFORE considering going with a heat pump.
Heat pumps are garbage.
I love my Daikin FIT...
As dry as Ghandis sandle more like
First
You both can’t be first
Junk...time to go
That thing ain't 43 years old. Late 90s, early 2000s is my guess
first comment....
I don't think so...
40 years-old
I remember this guy, Goofy