I think Sister Sage is likely able to perform the procedure herself. But showing trust in The Deep is a calculated move in order to keep him on side. And perhaps seed loyalty to her. The Deep is very much a person that would likely fall deeply in love with someone in the drop of a hat due to insecurities. Sister Sage showing him her vulnerabilities and stroking his ego. Might be her way of manufacturing a relationship between them. Firstly to better aid in her and Homelander's plan. But secondly to have a devoted ally to fight her corner if Homelander ever turned on her.
My exact thought and hope, the deep hasn’t really had a big arc (obviously he doesn’t deserve it as the character), chace crawford showed that he can look intimidating this season so hopefully he uses his powers and does something cool.. I’ve always wanted to see someone use some cool water powers in this show
I thought that was clear, as now it made sense when she first bonked The Deep and was disgusted by his presence the next day. She must have lobotomised herself before he came in and saw she had that deep fried onion.
@@crash5642 I think The Deep is more powerful than he seems. He's mentally weak. So is easy pushed around. But like Queen Maeve. I bet he could put up a good fight against Homelander if it came to it. Even more so in the ocean. So I could see him picking a fight with Homelander at some point. Either for redemption. Or likey for more selfish reasons. I think the show has been subtly setting up a fight between them since season one. Purposely down playing The Deep ability. Making him a joke. So its a shock when he actually holds his own.
@@SmithFamily-d7q I don't think they will give the Deep any moment to shine, after all he's just another pathetic white guy type of character the showrunners love to make for their own amusement, but it would be actually pretty cool to see him pull couple of punches and actually hurt Homelander before he dies, cause that bit is the most certain.
Sister Sage is such a travesty within the world of The Boys, if she was provided with the right environment and resources as soon as her V mutation was figured out at an early age, she'd be the single greatest person to have ever lived by advancing technology farther than anyone would've thought possible within her lifespan.
Vaught is the embodiment of unchecked capitalistic greed her intelligence and ability to help mankind on global scale is useless to them. Look how hard it is to get single payer universal healthcare in America, no middle men just tax dollars paying for something all Americans will need at some point in their life but nope gonna a have hundreds of different companies and middle men so there's profit to be had. It makes sense that she stays relatively low profile its to keep herself safe
Doesn’t have anything to do with Homelander. I fast forwarded because you spent so much time speculating “stress” from homelander. This is just what she does and has been doing this for quite a while I’m sure.
I don't believe she's being completely honest about her regenerative capabilities. That's very valuable info to have on her and she may be testing the deep to see if he'll use it against her later.
Sister sage is not afraid of Homelander. She is clearly tolerating him. The smartest person in the world is 10steps a head of everyone. Think Lex Luther and Batman, both human but insanely intelligent. Literally, it should be a clue that she doesn’t have immediate weapons…she doesn’t need them; SCARY 😱. She could build weapons like Lex or Batman or Tony Stark but she apparently doesn’t. She is hiding her full capacity and again she doesn’t need weapons…..
It's to reset her short term memory to forget or unlearn information that could compromise her to Homelander and his ability to pick out the liars and end them. She knows its A-train who helped Starlight but she needs him to continue his disloyalty for her long game to payoff as she isolates each member of the team for her own gain.
Remember how A-train couldn't run due to his heart? It's all the same. How can they appreciate and utilise their ability without living without it for a bit
2 soft tacos and 2 chili cheese burritos, @@damianmartin4743. My standard order for years, to this day. Practically the only thing I'll eat there, but when you have a dumbperson craving for crap... well, you can't go wrong there.
Bruh Vought pisses me off so much. You create the smartest person alive and you’re content with letting her drown herself in books in a crappy apartment, reeking of Taco Bell? All the applications her genius could be put to use for and they just say “ Fuck it, let’s reeaaallly capitalize on the deep” 🤦🏾♂️
What really pisses me off is I guarantee this is gonna be touched on in the show but safe is probably gonna spew some bullshit like “because I’m black they don’t wanna use my intelligence” I can already see that happening and the whole internet is gonna loses there shit over it
I don't think Vought wants any players smarter than they are. I think she's going to end up deeply crippling Vought by the end, now that she see's it's machinations and (many) weaknesses under Homelander
It kinda makes sense as she's too unpredictable, dangerous and lacks on empathy. They already had Homelander, bringing another supe who can easily fucks shit up for them would be too risky. Homelander aside, Vaught would prefer for The Seven people that are easy to control, short-sighted, obedient and loyal, she's none of that. Sadly if anything it will be played out as race thing.
Another funfact: Susan Heyward (who plays Sister Sage) had a very similar character role in Netflix's Orange Is the New Black (i.e., portraying the smartest black woman in the prison administration who everyone relied on for guidance at one point; although everything erupted into chaos afterward).
Are you insane? She's the best introduction to ANY character EVER of ALL TIME??? Get real! She hasn't even done anything cool or clever yet, the only thing the writers do to show she's "smart" is put stacks of books in her apartment. Cause the dumb writers think book = smart. They aren't smart enough to write a smart character.
IMO shes a poorly written character. She's supposed to be smart but she's portrayed as presumptious, spitting freshman political science quotes at people. I've seen this trope a lot before. Mentalist, Sherlock Holmes, ect. Smart people dont presume, and they have deeper understandings than just "bread and circus". It's too hard to write smart people because it requires the writers to be as smart. So maybe writers shouldnt even bother xd.
Sage's lobotomy is every smart person's drug use. Like she said herself, sometimes she needs to "not be herself"... being a intelligent and/or gifted person is extremely exhausting at times.
@@nmbr1son64weird comment buddy, letting off some steam after the adrenaline of an exam makes sense, men do it too, watching adul movies or whatever but saying ut like that is a bit creepy as of every woman is a sl*t and wants to unwind with the first person
She very well knows. The show very clearly portrays their alliance to be shaky at best, built upon their mutual hatred for human beings. Once they achieve their common goal you can bet both will be trying to eliminate each other
She knows, she is just using him because Honelander is just a chess piece to her, she's using her pieces intelligently to get her own goal, whatever that may be.
@@shivermetimbers6128 You have a skull bone behind your eye. This bone is also the thinnest and easiest bone in the skull to break. Lobotomies used to be drilled through the side of the skull until a physician decided to insert the tool through the eye to break the bone behind the eye. This is why the hammer is used. The hammer breaks through the skull behind the eye. Then, you insert the instrument into the brain and move it around. If you think there is no skull bone behind the eye, you're sadly mistaken, there is.
@shivermetimbers6128 there is skull bone behind the eye, the physician has to break through it to perform the lobotomy. That is why a hammer is used on that rod.
I disagree with your take that Hollanders actions surprised her, she seemed more annoyed than shocked and her response “ you did t think that what she was going to say afterwards was important?” Suggests she cared more about the information. She herself believes she and the supes are superior beings so it wouldn’t make sense for her to be shocked about the way homelander did what he did.
Yep she didn't give a single shit about Homelander killing the poor girl, she was just pissed he killed her before she could finish telling them what starlight had actually wanted her help with. She's a hard core supe supremacist and doesn't care about normal humans at all
@@tycepickett7263I disagree because I don’t think she really gives a shit about supes, either. She USED TO care, then the world let her grandmother die, and now she thinks the world isn’t worth saving. I think she’s more like The Joker in The Dark Knight: she wants to watch the world burn.
@@jonbodhi that's probably true ad well. She see's everything and everyone as being beneath her and doesn't seem to care about anything any more. But she still definitely see's supes as being superior to normal humans, she even tells the Deep that he is genetically superior to Ashley and that to a superior like him Ashley is the genetic equivalent of a large rodent. She can be a total nihilist and a supe supremacist at the same time.
Homelander told her she could put her theories to test on the world stage, she really doesn't have anything to do but read books, now this gives her a way to use what she learned and actually take over as the worlds greatest sup. She is using everyone , including homelander. She wants to see how easy she can destroy vought , remember she has no love for them. And she was with them before. So this could be revenge for her. Proving theres no one smarter , even homlander.😢
You'd think a super genius could improve on Compound V. They should have given her psi powers like Carrie, Firestarter, or Scanners and advanced technology like Iron Man.
I love how Homelander calls Sage “Someone of my level” because she’s a Supe. Which shows he’s not racist, just a Supe Supremacist. Which is still terrible now that I said it out loud…
Sister Sage is the perfect example of when dumb writers try to write a "smart" character. We're at 4x5 and she STILL hasn't done anything particularly clever or smart. She also brings up HL/Madeline's relationship as if shes watched the show even though that information was never public, she just KNEW cause "smart". And the writers aren't gonna explain how she knew that OR how she knew A-Train is the mole, she just magically knows. Because to dumb people, smart people are practially magicians.
I think that's explained when she reads homelander just by seeing his hair and his clean hands. So I think it's believable that she can pick up on someone anxious about a trains secret and other things over time.
I was under the impression that she, now as someone returning to Vought (with the blessing of Homelander, no doubt) would be privy to some of that information and would easily grok the rest by talking to people there...... You can fall back on the "Show don't tell" moniker, but her knowing that stuff didn't feel like much of a stretch since she seems to live in the tower now
I wonder what Newman could do to her brain. Hypothetically she could be giving her micro aneurisms to throw off her abilities without her even knowing (of course only when in close proximity)
There is a "House M.D." episode in which a true genius is portraited. Smarter than House, that used alcohol to damage his brain to deal with his wife. She was not dumb but he was so smart that paraphrasing "You are closer to a chimp, than I to you." Talking about IQ. He was over 200. He ended up asking advise how to damage his body less, yet continuing to numb his mind, to live happier with her, for he was so lonely being so brilliant. I think they took quite a lot from that...
People who love this show are already over analyzing the ending scene. It's obvious the show is introducing the concept of what happens when you give the dead/brain dead compound v. Zombie. Supe zombie
if they behead her, I'm sure she won't be recovering from that at all... Kimiko probably got the strenght to do that with supes that ain't at Homelander/Soldier Boy lvl of endurance
I don't think that lobotomies have anything to do with Homelander or any of the additional stress associated with anything she does for Vought. Her ability is not only intelligence, but the processing of vast amounts of information coupled with eidetic memory and automatic brain regeneration. Her pattern recognition of every piece of information would make her perception of reality so dense, that it makes sense she would want a reprieve from all that stimulus. 1. Eidetic memory: she can't forget anything that has ever experienced or read. Any traumatic situation, book, person or otherwise, would be a permanent fixture in her mind. She's incapable forgetting all the accumulated suffering of herself or others, if she has seen or read about it. 2. Pattern recognition: She was able to read Homelander like a book based on basic hygiene and human tells, that most people aren't aware of. If you were able to read people like they were pages, then no one else would even register as a person to you. They would simply be a puzzle of heuristics to understand and manipulate. 3. Emotion: It's entirely possible that she has a form of imposed sociopathy from her inability to not analyze people and situations. Her perception is pure intellect, and she used a lobotomy to hinder her higher brain functions to a point where she could actually enjoy something. TLDR: Her intelligence is a prison of stimulus and she unwinds by slowing her mind down with a lobotomy.
She makes me think about Stan Edgar. Part of me wonders if she has a secret tie with him. It also makes me wonder who’s actually smarter. Stan has no powers yet he isn’t afraid of Homelander; but Sister Sage has powers and is the smartest person in the world but can’t find another way to relax
My thoughts xactly. Stan knew Homelander can't take criticism, he knew he would end up needing to out branch and Sister Sage is an obvious yet interesting choice. Did Ashley truly pick her or maybe she truly did have low expectations of her. A stupid action of them all because she says alot of implicating things. (Mention of Ryan's future, no care for fame but doing exactly what homelander needs)
@@pixiestxNyomouf look for those who use smartest person VS smartest woman Hughie didn't need the correction The one that shocked me was A Train he actually respects her. I think they had a romantic relationship in the past and thats why he didn't want her on the 7
Sage is literally the only person on boys show who is safe from homelander. Homelander needs her so badly, at episode 6 homelander started to cry / went to shock when few politicians asked him about trying to make a coup and peoples reaction to that... Victoria only stepped in becaause homelander was about to snap and murder whole usa goverment.
I'm pretty sure her regeneration is not just restricted to the brain because the whole on the side of her head healed by the next episode and that's not part of the brain.
Personally I don't think the writers of this season are smart enough to do sister sage justice. In order to write a smart character , you yourself have to be smart and they have If you like proven time and again that they really aren't unfortunately.
@@orionishi6737 nothing I have to cope with, it's them losing viewers and audience scores in droves. If anything, you and them can "keep coping", as you say?
@@ZenKrio yeah, that's why you just had to respond to this message right away right? Because you're not coping. We all know your real issues with the show and it's not that. You don't even know the end game of her character because the show isn't complete.
@@orionishi6737 she's the only good character introduced this season, hence my concern with her, I've been concerned with the writing since season 3 basically brought in Soldier Boy, then at the end did nothing with him, wasting my time. I'm black, so don't insinuate my motives. I responded because I like adult conversation. And because you commented. If I had a cope, It would be the fact that a show that I loved for two seasons got so bad so fast. And I have "coped" with that lol, you act like I'm alone on this. It's no different than star wars, You take something that was awesome and then you make it garbage, Of course , there's going to be some coming to terms with that, But to just say "cope", Implies that you don't have an actual maturer, adult response to make, so you just make the closest thing you can to to a response to come off as having some sort of retort, but it doesn't translate to an adult argument.. I could make several statements of fact.As to why this season is garbage without bringing political crap into it, But most of it comes down to the fact that there's no reason that outside of plot BS, The Boys themselves should have been long killed..
Sage KNOWS how to kill Homelander. Me too. Create a virus to accelerate his aging, which will weaken him from the inside out. His statue on the Gen V show foreshadows his fate.
Yeah thats the trouble with actual SUPER intelligence. tony stark can feel normal by drinking. reed can do it by trying to have an emotional connection and failing miserably. but if you dont want to feel like an adult preying on children and you need intimacy... yeah i can see why you might do that.
I agree, eating a blooming onion is a ghastly act. For those curious: Total Fat 126g Saturated Fat 44g Trans Fat 4.5g Cholesterol 95mg Sodium 4140mg Total Carbohydrates 107g Dietary Fiber 14g Sugars 20g
I dont think the reason that she needs to unwind is caused by the stress of her job. Real people with extremely high IQ's have a higher chance of suffering from depression. some have even comitted suicide. the reason is that because of how their brain works, they often have issues socializing with other people. and have a hard time engaging in simple interactions. they also tend to be distrustful of people since they tend to over analyze people and often are able to read people and know their true intentions. they also tend to feel used, as if people saw them as a tool, a human computer. they also often end up having simple and underwhelming lives, maybe as a way to feel normal, or as a way to rebel against people's expectations of them. there's also people with photographic memory who are under constant stress because their minds are so saturated with useless information. I would imagine that a person with a super hero level of intelligence, all of those downsides escalate even further. her mind must be constantly working all the time. and she just needs to feel numb for a bit.
Perhaps Sage has had experience with mind-reading sups and the lobotomy is a way she prevents them from determining her concealed motives. Maybe her brain continues to develop perpetually and if she doesn't lobotomize herself daily it develops to a point where she is rendered catatonic. Maybe by the end of each day working with Homelander her ethical limits have been exceeded and the only way she can continue is to push back that realization by another day by lobotomizing herself (or she senses herself reaching her ethical limit). Maybe she lobotomizes herself because at the end of the day she is so depressed that she is suicidal and does the lobotomy as a self-protective behavior. Maybe when she was growing up the scientists at Vought conditioned her with an irresistible impulse to lobotomize herself at the end of each day. Maybe she lobotomizes herself because she is tortured by boredom. Maybe by the end of each day she realizes her plans will backfire and she lobotomizes herself to keep herself from keep herself from exhibiting suspicious behavior that Homelander might detect.
So this video was made before the end of the season? Because we do find out the other person who does the lobotomy for her is Noir. Also she got shot in the head and survived.
This show like most is racially and sexually driven, but I can appreciate that it somewhat makes fun of the white supremacist system that exists. But it never really questions it too much.
As one of the smartest sidekick, I believe she will outsmart the planner( HOMELANDER ). Building a relationship with one of the most powerful hero" The Deep" as HOMELANDER can beat him on land but not in water. Next it seems her brain is its own entity, a whole living organism which does not let her get rest or time for herself and will disfigure her in time to come in which she have to lobotomize it to send the energy for growth to repair. Also she can show everyone their strengths and how to defeat HOMELANDER making herself Top Boss, in the event of this, thinking she have defeated him and he realizing that all he needs is the BRAIN he will rip her apart just leaving the BRAIN to live in a Jar giving him all the knowledge he need to conquer. Knowing all his plans that could be a plan, another side quest for the Boys is to get their hands on the brain.
Sage may end her own torture permanently, Temp V turns ur brain to sludge, it may be a permanent solution for her, willingly or otherwise. She would not risk taking action that could cause her to lose her intelligence if she actually wanted to keep it and she's more than intelligent enough to realize this, she may be very willing to take the temp v.
I think Sage's story will conclude in Gen V Season 2 but idk how exactly. Since her only power is being smart she doesn't have to die as for the smartest thing to do is not get involved too much in the Supe-War Homelander is going to start
Sage almost certainly has figured out how to take down Homelander, and every other important player, primed and ready to be sent to where they'll do the most damaged. This lady's best ways of protecting herself is MAD.
Okay I’m going to go out on a limb with this, and I could be totally wrong… But what if Sage is actually the shapeshifter… Look it’s clear she the biggest liar/fraud/human hater in the show. It’s because she’s shifted into soooo many people that she learned the deepest darkest nature of all mankind. It could be how she adopted her nihilism. The more memories she gathers, the bigger her brain gets so she needs it scraped out from time to time but some of the memories stay. It could also be why she decided to take the form she currently has… One because she’s overlooked and under estimated , and 2 I believe she decided to stay in this form due to the guilt she has from killing the girl of the form we see. We never truly saw the shapeshifter die, Anne just choked her out. How the heck did she record what singer said and send it to sage 4 stories below the city?? I think she’s just playing everyone, if you had memories from 1 million different people, you’d literally be the smartest person on the planet. Sista Sage=Shapeshifter?? SS!??
She's not stressed with Homelander, she's ready to get beamed anytime coz she's also stoic. My theory is if she does not lobotomize herself her brain will grow too big... in addition i also have a theory on who helped her with the first scene with the lobotomy tool on the side, it's probably Black Noir
I think Sister Sage is likely able to perform the procedure herself. But showing trust in The Deep is a calculated move in order to keep him on side. And perhaps seed loyalty to her. The Deep is very much a person that would likely fall deeply in love with someone in the drop of a hat due to insecurities. Sister Sage showing him her vulnerabilities and stroking his ego. Might be her way of manufacturing a relationship between them. Firstly to better aid in her and Homelander's plan. But secondly to have a devoted ally to fight her corner if Homelander ever turned on her.
My exact thought and hope, the deep hasn’t really had a big arc (obviously he doesn’t deserve it as the character), chace crawford showed that he can look intimidating this season so hopefully he uses his powers and does something cool.. I’ve always wanted to see someone use some cool water powers in this show
I thought that was clear, as now it made sense when she first bonked The Deep and was disgusted by his presence the next day. She must have lobotomised herself before he came in and saw she had that deep fried onion.
@@crash5642 I think The Deep is more powerful than he seems. He's mentally weak. So is easy pushed around. But like Queen Maeve. I bet he could put up a good fight against Homelander if it came to it. Even more so in the ocean. So I could see him picking a fight with Homelander at some point. Either for redemption. Or likey for more selfish reasons. I think the show has been subtly setting up a fight between them since season one. Purposely down playing The Deep ability. Making him a joke. So its a shock when he actually holds his own.
@@SmithFamily-d7q dude passed out after falling from a whale
@@SmithFamily-d7q I don't think they will give the Deep any moment to shine, after all he's just another pathetic white guy type of character the showrunners love to make for their own amusement, but it would be actually pretty cool to see him pull couple of punches and actually hurt Homelander before he dies, cause that bit is the most certain.
Sister Sage is such a travesty within the world of The Boys, if she was provided with the right environment and resources as soon as her V mutation was figured out at an early age, she'd be the single greatest person to have ever lived by advancing technology farther than anyone would've thought possible within her lifespan.
True, but then there'd be no drama for the show.
That's kinda the point... Vaught isn't in the business of making a better world and racism is as racism does
Its possible, or she would spend all her time complaining about non existent racism and being an arrogant loser like normal.
Vaught is the embodiment of unchecked capitalistic greed her intelligence and ability to help mankind on global scale is useless to them.
Look how hard it is to get single payer universal healthcare in America, no middle men just tax dollars paying for something all Americans will need at some point in their life but nope gonna a have hundreds of different companies and middle men so there's profit to be had. It makes sense that she stays relatively low profile its to keep herself safe
Have you considered that she's able but not willing because she's simply disinterested in playing that game?
"Luring him in with physical intimacy"
Doesn’t have anything to do with Homelander. I fast forwarded because you spent so much time speculating “stress” from homelander. This is just what she does and has been doing this for quite a while I’m sure.
I don't believe she's being completely honest about her regenerative capabilities. That's very valuable info to have on her and she may be testing the deep to see if he'll use it against her later.
lame...
I also theorize since her brain constantly regenerates, it repairs itself better and better each time making her smarter
Wonder what are the limits of her brains regenerative agility...could she exist as just a brain?
@@tomsawyer7138That almost turns her into a commentary on artificial intelligence…interesting
Yes, she pretty much said that. It grows back smarter. Thats why she does it.
she was pretty dumb really and got herself fired from 7 😂
@@KonradWysocki-o9fall part of the plan
Sister sage is not afraid of Homelander. She is clearly tolerating him. The smartest person in the world is 10steps a head of everyone. Think Lex Luther and Batman, both human but insanely intelligent.
Literally, it should be a clue that she doesn’t have immediate weapons…she doesn’t need them; SCARY 😱.
She could build weapons like Lex or Batman or Tony Stark but she apparently doesn’t. She is hiding her full capacity and again she doesn’t need weapons…..
It's to reset her short term memory to forget or unlearn information that could compromise her to Homelander and his ability to pick out the liars and end them. She knows its A-train who helped Starlight but she needs him to continue his disloyalty for her long game to payoff as she isolates each member of the team for her own gain.
She now smart as you think , lobotomizing not smart move
@@Glitch-qj3nj she explained in thorough detail the point of her self lobotomies.
@@devineggins4just because she has a good reason doesn’t make it a good idea lol
Remember how A-train couldn't run due to his heart? It's all the same. How can they appreciate and utilise their ability without living without it for a bit
@@user-wy1et9dk9w lol it literally does but be dumb if ya want
Sister Sage has been doing the Lobotomy before she was recruited, bc Homelander said knew she had been eating a bunch of taco bell.
Which means she may actually need to do it rather than want to do it due to stress
Never ate Taco but I believe it taste good if she's eating it soo much, that would be on my list of things to do before I die.
@@damianmartin4743😅😅
2 soft tacos and 2 chili cheese burritos, @@damianmartin4743. My standard order for years, to this day. Practically the only thing I'll eat there, but when you have a dumbperson craving for crap... well, you can't go wrong there.
@@damianmartin4743 that’s the spirit!
Bruh Vought pisses me off so much. You create the smartest person alive and you’re content with letting her drown herself in books in a crappy apartment, reeking of Taco Bell? All the applications her genius could be put to use for and they just say “ Fuck it, let’s reeaaallly capitalize on the deep” 🤦🏾♂️
I like her she’s a weird nerdy girlie
Ironically they probably want dumb people like the deep that can be controlled. Supes don't do any work other than entertainment.
What really pisses me off is I guarantee this is gonna be touched on in the show but safe is probably gonna spew some bullshit like “because I’m black they don’t wanna use my intelligence” I can already see that happening and the whole internet is gonna loses there shit over it
I don't think Vought wants any players smarter than they are. I think she's going to end up deeply crippling Vought by the end, now that she see's it's machinations and (many) weaknesses under Homelander
It kinda makes sense as she's too unpredictable, dangerous and lacks on empathy. They already had Homelander, bringing another supe who can easily fucks shit up for them would be too risky. Homelander aside, Vaught would prefer for The Seven people that are easy to control, short-sighted, obedient and loyal, she's none of that. Sadly if anything it will be played out as race thing.
Another funfact: Susan Heyward (who plays Sister Sage) had a very similar character role in Netflix's Orange Is the New Black (i.e., portraying the smartest black woman in the prison administration who everyone relied on for guidance at one point; although everything erupted into chaos afterward).
She was great as Sharlto Copely's partner in Powers.
Yk, I've been sleeping on OitNB. Might have to give it a chance
I knew she looked familiar!
People in the comments finding out this show has been making fun of them the whole time lol
Real
Its hilarious 😂😂
lol 😂
😂😂😂 and MAD MAD!
It makes fun of everyone. Including you
Sister sage is perhaps the best introduction to a character.
I agree
Are you insane? She's the best introduction to ANY character EVER of ALL TIME??? Get real! She hasn't even done anything cool or clever yet, the only thing the writers do to show she's "smart" is put stacks of books in her apartment. Cause the dumb writers think book = smart. They aren't smart enough to write a smart character.
Idk A-trains introduction was pretty explosive
@@wesbesttreacts4515 True, it was bloody good xD
IMO shes a poorly written character. She's supposed to be smart but she's portrayed as presumptious, spitting freshman political science quotes at people. I've seen this trope a lot before. Mentalist, Sherlock Holmes, ect. Smart people dont presume, and they have deeper understandings than just "bread and circus". It's too hard to write smart people because it requires the writers to be as smart. So maybe writers shouldnt even bother xd.
Sage's lobotomy is every smart person's drug use. Like she said herself, sometimes she needs to "not be herself"... being a intelligent and/or gifted person is extremely exhausting at times.
That reminds me of my college days. After finals, that's the time the females want to release that stress!
This is why I'm addicted to weed
@@nmbr1son64weird comment buddy, letting off some steam after the adrenaline of an exam makes sense, men do it too, watching adul movies or whatever but saying ut like that is a bit creepy as of every woman is a sl*t and wants to unwind with the first person
If Sister Sage really is smart, than she knows Homelander cannot be trusted.
She does know
She very well knows. The show very clearly portrays their alliance to be shaky at best, built upon their mutual hatred for human beings. Once they achieve their common goal you can bet both will be trying to eliminate each other
Advanced Engineering as her first power may be clue that she will build something in the future.
She knows, she is just using him because Honelander is just a chess piece to her, she's using her pieces intelligently to get her own goal, whatever that may be.
The question is is she smart enough to control such an erratic sociopath as him.
Her skull must have increased healing since she needed to continuously break a hole in it behind her eye every time she lobotomized herself
Shouldn't she regenerate all over, like Wolverine and Deadpool? 🤓
@@darlalathan6143 except she said that getting shot through the heart would kill her
A lobotomy shouldn't damage her skull in any way
@@shivermetimbers6128 You have a skull bone behind your eye. This bone is also the thinnest and easiest bone in the skull to break. Lobotomies used to be drilled through the side of the skull until a physician decided to insert the tool through the eye to break the bone behind the eye. This is why the hammer is used. The hammer breaks through the skull behind the eye. Then, you insert the instrument into the brain and move it around. If you think there is no skull bone behind the eye, you're sadly mistaken, there is.
@shivermetimbers6128 there is skull bone behind the eye, the physician has to break through it to perform the lobotomy. That is why a hammer is used on that rod.
I disagree with your take that Hollanders actions surprised her, she seemed more annoyed than shocked and her response “ you did t think that what she was going to say afterwards was important?” Suggests she cared more about the information. She herself believes she and the supes are superior beings so it wouldn’t make sense for her to be shocked about the way homelander did what he did.
"Hollanders" 😂😂😂😂
Yep she didn't give a single shit about Homelander killing the poor girl, she was just pissed he killed her before she could finish telling them what starlight had actually wanted her help with. She's a hard core supe supremacist and doesn't care about normal humans at all
@@tycepickett7263I disagree because I don’t think she really gives a shit about supes, either. She USED TO care, then the world let her grandmother die, and now she thinks the world isn’t worth saving. I think she’s more like The Joker in The Dark Knight: she wants to watch the world burn.
@@jonbodhi that's probably true ad well. She see's everything and everyone as being beneath her and doesn't seem to care about anything any more. But she still definitely see's supes as being superior to normal humans, she even tells the Deep that he is genetically superior to Ashley and that to a superior like him Ashley is the genetic equivalent of a large rodent. She can be a total nihilist and a supe supremacist at the same time.
@@tycepickett7263 Or she clocked The Deeps very obvious insecurity issues and used that to her advantage
“You wanna hang out this weekend?”
“Nah that is when I get my lobotomy.”😂😂😂
Homelander told her she could put her theories to test on the world stage, she really doesn't have anything to do but read books, now this gives her a way to use what she learned and actually take over as the worlds greatest sup. She is using everyone , including homelander. She wants to see how easy she can destroy vought , remember she has no love for them. And she was with them before. So this could be revenge for her. Proving theres no one smarter , even homlander.😢
Sage is Homelander’s new favorite Supe to the late Noir
I guess he likes black people
Given her intelligence couldn't she give herself super strength or psychic abilities being that she learns fast
You'd think a super genius could improve on Compound V. They should have given her psi powers like Carrie, Firestarter, or Scanners and advanced technology like Iron Man.
@@darlalathan6143 exactly what I'm saying
I wonder if Homelander will show up when she's stupid
I love how Homelander calls Sage “Someone of my level” because she’s a Supe. Which shows he’s not racist, just a Supe Supremacist. Which is still terrible now that I said it out loud…
Nah he’s still racist. Straight up said he couldn’t have a Muslim in the Seven in season 3.
@@jaredrandell866 Islam isn’t a race
@@John_the_Paulreally? You gonna tell me him calling Silver Kincade Captain Al-Quaeda had nothing to do with race too?
@@jaredrandell866 Either he’s racist against Arabs, or he’s religiously bigoted. Probably both, but they’re still separate concepts.
the show has explicitly shown his vocal racism several times
Sister Sage is the perfect example of when dumb writers try to write a "smart" character. We're at 4x5 and she STILL hasn't done anything particularly clever or smart. She also brings up HL/Madeline's relationship as if shes watched the show even though that information was never public, she just KNEW cause "smart". And the writers aren't gonna explain how she knew that OR how she knew A-Train is the mole, she just magically knows. Because to dumb people, smart people are practially magicians.
I think that's explained when she reads homelander just by seeing his hair and his clean hands. So I think it's believable that she can pick up on someone anxious about a trains secret and other things over time.
Just say you hate black female characters and shut up
A train looks anxious and stressed all the time lol, it’s not that hard to pick up on if you’re super observant lol.
She hasn't done anything particulary smart? I'm starting to believe someone also got a lobotomy
I was under the impression that she, now as someone returning to Vought (with the blessing of Homelander, no doubt) would be privy to some of that information and would easily grok the rest by talking to people there......
You can fall back on the "Show don't tell" moniker, but her knowing that stuff didn't feel like much of a stretch since she seems to live in the tower now
I wonder what Newman could do to her brain. Hypothetically she could be giving her micro aneurisms to throw off her abilities without her even knowing (of course only when in close proximity)
FYI to artist...breast tissue is fatty and glandular tissue external to the muscle. It is not a bulging muscle in females.
I’m sure the Ai program he uses will make of note of this.
@@ryanart7241😂
I assumed this was the underlying muscle under the breast tissue. That CAN bulge under the fatty tissue
That must make it muscle and not breast tissue, huh?
She’s all about the chaos/civil war, did anyone notice her malice at the palice t-shirt in her first scene?
So now we know it's not just the brain but the whole skull that can regenerate. So using a bulletproof vest makes her pretty safe.
There is a "House M.D." episode in which a true genius is portraited. Smarter than House, that used alcohol to damage his brain to deal with his wife. She was not dumb but he was so smart that paraphrasing "You are closer to a chimp, than I to you." Talking about IQ. He was over 200. He ended up asking advise how to damage his body less, yet continuing to numb his mind, to live happier with her, for he was so lonely being so brilliant. I think they took quite a lot from that...
Wasn't alcohol but dextromethophan hydrobromide(dxm). But yeah, it saw that episode and drew parallels as well
@@chill_will9816 My bad, alcohol was only the first diagnosis
@@Milton2k lol, yeah, house always had to misdiagnose at least twice before he devined the actual diagnosis
I don't think a smart person would be in this situation in the first place
@@gladteer873 Maybe she thinks she is so smart that she can outsmart everyone... she seems rather ambitious. And that will be her downfall.
Sista sage definitely has her own agenda. Trust me
She is probably going to betray homelander
People who love this show are already over analyzing the ending scene. It's obvious the show is introducing the concept of what happens when you give the dead/brain dead compound v. Zombie. Supe zombie
if they behead her, I'm sure she won't be recovering from that at all... Kimiko probably got the strenght to do that with supes that ain't at Homelander/Soldier Boy lvl of endurance
I don't think that lobotomies have anything to do with Homelander or any of the additional stress associated with anything she does for Vought.
Her ability is not only intelligence, but the processing of vast amounts of information coupled with eidetic memory and automatic brain regeneration. Her pattern recognition of every piece of information would make her perception of reality so dense, that it makes sense she would want a reprieve from all that stimulus.
1. Eidetic memory: she can't forget anything that has ever experienced or read. Any traumatic situation, book, person or otherwise, would be a permanent fixture in her mind. She's incapable forgetting all the accumulated suffering of herself or others, if she has seen or read about it.
2. Pattern recognition: She was able to read Homelander like a book based on basic hygiene and human tells, that most people aren't aware of. If you were able to read people like they were pages, then no one else would even register as a person to you. They would simply be a puzzle of heuristics to understand and manipulate.
3. Emotion: It's entirely possible that she has a form of imposed sociopathy from her inability to not analyze people and situations. Her perception is pure intellect, and she used a lobotomy to hinder her higher brain functions to a point where she could actually enjoy something.
TLDR: Her intelligence is a prison of stimulus and she unwinds by slowing her mind down with a lobotomy.
This video is long overdue so happy to finally see a video on this Boys character. Wish I had Sister Sage’s powers of superhuman intelligence.
She makes me think about Stan Edgar. Part of me wonders if she has a secret tie with him. It also makes me wonder who’s actually smarter. Stan has no powers yet he isn’t afraid of Homelander; but Sister Sage has powers and is the smartest person in the world but can’t find another way to relax
My thoughts xactly. Stan knew Homelander can't take criticism, he knew he would end up needing to out branch and Sister Sage is an obvious yet interesting choice. Did Ashley truly pick her or maybe she truly did have low expectations of her. A stupid action of them all because she says alot of implicating things. (Mention of Ryan's future, no care for fame but doing exactly what homelander needs)
Probably has to do it to avoid her head going pop
@@pixiestxNyomouf look for those who use smartest person VS smartest woman
Hughie didn't need the correction
The one that shocked me was A Train he actually respects her. I think they had a romantic relationship in the past and thats why he didn't want her on the 7
You repeat yourself a lot
Sage is literally the only person on boys show who is safe from homelander. Homelander needs her so badly, at episode 6 homelander started to cry / went to shock when few politicians asked him about trying to make a coup and peoples reaction to that... Victoria only stepped in becaause homelander was about to snap and murder whole usa goverment.
I'm pretty sure her regeneration is not just restricted to the brain because the whole on the side of her head healed by the next episode and that's not part of the brain.
She lives in Detroit, so how smart can she possibly be.
COME AND FIND THE F*CK OUT!
Sage will be the Brutus to Homelander's Ceasar.
Something's wrong with her though. How was the smartest person in the world not working as a Vought scientist?
She clearly doesn’t like Vought, or being told what to do, or people in general.
Well you know that's how racism works😂😂😂.
I love her as soon as she spoke. I couldn’t watch the lobotomy tho 😮💨or at least watched through my fingers
Personally I don't think the writers of this season are smart enough to do sister sage justice. In order to write a smart character , you yourself have to be smart and they have If you like proven time and again that they really aren't unfortunately.
Lol keep coping.
@@orionishi6737 nothing I have to cope with, it's them losing viewers and audience scores in droves. If anything, you and them can "keep coping", as you say?
@@ZenKrio yeah, that's why you just had to respond to this message right away right? Because you're not coping.
We all know your real issues with the show and it's not that. You don't even know the end game of her character because the show isn't complete.
@@orionishi6737 she's the only good character introduced this season, hence my concern with her, I've been concerned with the writing since season 3 basically brought in Soldier Boy, then at the end did nothing with him, wasting my time.
I'm black, so don't insinuate my motives.
I responded because I like adult conversation. And because you commented. If I had a cope, It would be the fact that a show that I loved for two seasons got so bad so fast. And I have "coped" with that lol, you act like I'm alone on this.
It's no different than star wars, You take something that was awesome and then you make it garbage, Of course , there's going to be some coming to terms with that, But to just say "cope", Implies that you don't have an actual maturer, adult response to make, so you just make the closest thing you can to to a response to come off as having some sort of retort, but it doesn't translate to an adult argument.. I could make several statements of fact.As to why this season is garbage without bringing political crap into it, But most of it comes down to the fact that there's no reason that outside of plot BS, The Boys themselves should have been long killed..
i wonder if she will think of the cure for the supe killing pathogen??
Sage KNOWS how to kill Homelander. Me too. Create a virus to accelerate his aging, which will weaken him from the inside out. His statue on the Gen V show foreshadows his fate.
8:12 I think Noir helped with the first lobotomy.
this didn't age well
I think A-train helped her before since they were team members before with Team kicks
The boys not the guys
Yeah thats the trouble with actual SUPER intelligence. tony stark can feel normal by drinking. reed can do it by trying to have an emotional connection and failing miserably. but if you dont want to feel like an adult preying on children and you need intimacy... yeah i can see why you might do that.
Was this written and voiced by ai?
I agree, eating a blooming onion is a ghastly act.
For those curious:
Total Fat 126g
Saturated Fat 44g
Trans Fat 4.5g
Cholesterol 95mg
Sodium 4140mg
Total Carbohydrates 107g
Dietary Fiber 14g
Sugars 20g
I wonder if the cholesterol and fat helps with the brain regeneration in any way....
I dont think the reason that she needs to unwind is caused by the stress of her job.
Real people with extremely high IQ's have a higher chance of suffering from depression. some have even comitted suicide. the reason is that because of how their brain works, they often have issues socializing with other people. and have a hard time engaging in simple interactions.
they also tend to be distrustful of people since they tend to over analyze people and often are able to read people and know their true intentions. they also tend to feel used, as if people saw them as a tool, a human computer.
they also often end up having simple and underwhelming lives, maybe as a way to feel normal, or as a way to rebel against people's expectations of them.
there's also people with photographic memory who are under constant stress because their minds are so saturated with useless information.
I would imagine that a person with a super hero level of intelligence, all of those downsides escalate even further. her mind must be constantly working all the time. and she just needs to feel numb for a bit.
Many thanks could you do a video on the rest of the 7?
there are videos
@@Garage-wt5jlThanks I'll check them out!😎👍🏻
NOPE! Black supes are the only ones that matter RACIST!!!
How u know she doesn't have the ability to do it to herself?
Perhaps Sage has had experience with mind-reading sups and the lobotomy is a way she prevents them from determining her concealed motives.
Maybe her brain continues to develop perpetually and if she doesn't lobotomize herself daily it develops to a point where she is rendered catatonic.
Maybe by the end of each day working with Homelander her ethical limits have been exceeded and the only way she can continue is to push back that realization by another day by lobotomizing herself (or she senses herself reaching her ethical limit).
Maybe she lobotomizes herself because at the end of the day she is so depressed that she is suicidal and does the lobotomy as a self-protective behavior.
Maybe when she was growing up the scientists at Vought conditioned her with an irresistible impulse to lobotomize herself at the end of each day.
Maybe she lobotomizes herself because she is tortured by boredom.
Maybe by the end of each day she realizes her plans will backfire and she lobotomizes herself to keep herself from keep herself from exhibiting suspicious behavior that Homelander might detect.
So this video was made before the end of the season? Because we do find out the other person who does the lobotomy for her is Noir. Also she got shot in the head and survived.
Noir helped her the first time
I believe she said she preferred just Saga, due to the racist implications of the "Sister" title
It was revealed in episode 7 that black Noir was clapping Sister Sage's cheeks. This means that Black Noir performed that lobotomy on Sage.
Sage was never scared of Homelander
Homelander only has her around to remind him of Stan Edgar
This show like most is racially and sexually driven, but I can appreciate that it somewhat makes fun of the white supremacist system that exists. But it never really questions it too much.
like a slight exaggeration of the real world? You know the writers are trolling just about everything?
Lmao... Uuuh what?
@@dmvbay2535
Exaggeration? Not even.
Its spot on.
As one of the smartest sidekick, I believe she will outsmart the planner( HOMELANDER ). Building a relationship with one of the most powerful hero" The Deep" as HOMELANDER can beat him on land but not in water. Next it seems her brain is its own entity, a whole living organism which does not let her get rest or time for herself and will disfigure her in time to come in which she have to lobotomize it to send the energy for growth to repair. Also she can show everyone their strengths and how to defeat HOMELANDER making herself Top Boss, in the event of this, thinking she have defeated him and he realizing that all he needs is the BRAIN he will rip her apart just leaving the BRAIN to live in a Jar giving him all the knowledge he need to conquer. Knowing all his plans that could be a plan, another side quest for the Boys is to get their hands on the brain.
If she is smsrt she wouldnt be working closely with homelander because its a death sentence
The Jar Jar Binks of the Boys …..
Sister sage is my favorite!!!❤
Sage may end her own torture permanently, Temp V turns ur brain to sludge, it may be a permanent solution for her, willingly or otherwise. She would not risk taking action that could cause her to lose her intelligence if she actually wanted to keep it and she's more than intelligent enough to realize this, she may be very willing to take the temp v.
Sage is sexy in that costume 😍
What if her brain is the Supe but the rest of her is not. Imagine her body is lasered or something and she becomes just a brain in a jar.
I think another part is a detachment of emotions bc of her intelligence. I think that makes her unlikely to turn against Homelander.
She has obviously done it herself
Clearly you don’t watch the show, “Black Noir” is more than likely the other person that’s lobotomized her.
I think Sage's story will conclude in Gen V Season 2 but idk how exactly. Since her only power is being smart she doesn't have to die as for the smartest thing to do is not get involved too much in the Supe-War Homelander is going to start
Sage almost certainly has figured out how to take down Homelander, and every other important player, primed and ready to be sent to where they'll do the most damaged. This lady's best ways of protecting herself is MAD.
So “The Smartest Person In The World” title here really means manipulation? If that’s her show of intelligence then that kinda sucks…
Umm don’t you guys remember episode 7? She was playing with noir and deep.
So this was very likely noir
Okay I’m going to go out on a limb with this, and I could be totally wrong… But what if Sage is actually the shapeshifter… Look it’s clear she the biggest liar/fraud/human hater in the show. It’s because she’s shifted into soooo many people that she learned the deepest darkest nature of all mankind. It could be how she adopted her nihilism. The more memories she gathers, the bigger her brain gets so she needs it scraped out from time to time but some of the memories stay. It could also be why she decided to take the form she currently has… One because she’s overlooked and under estimated , and 2 I believe she decided to stay in this form due to the guilt she has from killing the girl of the form we see. We never truly saw the shapeshifter die, Anne just choked her out. How the heck did she record what singer said and send it to sage 4 stories below the city?? I think she’s just playing everyone, if you had memories from 1 million different people, you’d literally be the smartest person on the planet. Sista Sage=Shapeshifter?? SS!??
She's not stressed with Homelander, she's ready to get beamed anytime coz she's also stoic. My theory is if she does not lobotomize herself her brain will grow too big... in addition i also have a theory on who helped her with the first scene with the lobotomy tool on the side, it's probably Black Noir
Sage is a really lame character, she is just annoying and calls everything "racist". She doesn't come off as insanely smart, just arrogant.
This dude keeps repeating himself and talking in circles to extend the video time. This should be a 3-4 minute video tops.
AI in thumbnail. Ty for letting me know I have to tell RUclips to never recommend me your channel again
I just find her character abrasive, aloof, and wholly unlikable.
shes not interesting at all... She just smart... What a super power when compared to otheds...
Sister Sage could absolutely develop something to obliterate Homelander
If she is smartest person in the world. Why can't she find a way to make her body heal fast like her brain?
ok now that I have noticed that A-train has Nipples on his Costume I cant unsee it....
come on bruh
My suggestion for sister sage she's the smartest person on the planet smartest person on the planet didn't make V she could refine it make it better
Sister Sage is The Boys version of Ozymandias from Watchmen
Even with the lobotomy is she still smarter than most
i don't think we have seen what she really is cable of yet scientifically or emotionally
She most definitely is NOT scared of Homelander
She was shot in the head and survived, I wonder if she has some other power we don’t know yet.
nah, Sage isn't even trying, she's just playing around.
@8:00 dafuq did you say? she'd betray her in a heart beat... wtf
If she's the smartest why dont she makes permanent v
If you put her head in a jar, would it be immortal?
What does Sister Sage do? Come around on Thanksgiving and add spice to the turkey? Truth be told, it is the one spice we always forget.