Great video. It would have a been an added bonus to see him set the inputs and outputs in the DAW too. And plugging in the cables, etc. For the full, full version
My sentiments exactly... is there a full version? I have watched several versions of exactly this and have gotten nowhere. Alot of these videos are a waste of time because they don't show you how they just tell you it can be done.
Listening to the sound of the dry guitar being, recorded, I thought it sounded extremely out of tune, but hearing the finished product, it actually sounded great! Cool video.
@@christopherrusch Stick with me mate, it's very simple, just very counter-intuitive... basically if you wanna use an amp and pedals, you would first set those up, then plug-in your guitar, then record... right? Right. OK. Well... not with re-amping. Re-amping means you first record a "dry" track, which means : no amp, no pedal, your guitar is plugged straight into you audio interface, with no effect added whatsoever just the clean signal and proper gain. Then, once this is done, what a reamp box allows you to do is to take the track you recorded and to pass this track *through your amp and pedal set-up*. It basically allows you to do the recording process in reverse. This is very handy because when you put a lot of effects during recording first, after that you can't remove them if they're analogue effects (not like plug-ins) and you might end up with too many effects on a great take that will muddy-up your mix. That's why re-amping is so cool. Hope you understand. Think "re"-amp = "re"-verse, it's the reverse of a standard way to record ;)
Crazy awesome, dudes! I've been wondering what reamping is and how to do it for so long. It never made sense until I was actually able to see it in this video. Thanks!
That Supro in the back is gorgeous. So, what would ve the difference between recording directly and reamping, instead of using a di cab sim and recording directly through that? Sounds like reamping is more if you want to add stuff later on, but still not sure
Really interesting never seen that before. Would be interesting to do a comparison of recording live into the amp and Reamping to see how close the two sound
Can you guys do a recording tricks where you explain using something like the teac portastudio to warm up a digital track through tape. That trick was briefly mentioned in your recording swiss army knife article but I've been having a hard time finding out how to do it
Tristan McGarr it Might be something like throwing your tracks from the Computer to the Tape and do some eq/comp there, to achieve that Tape compression and warm character, and then run it again to the PC
Record track, during playback set that tracks output to the line going to your portastudio, route the output from the portastudio to a new input and record that. If you don’t like what came out you still have the original so you can mess with it as much as you’d like.
@@brianvillage5 Damn, I almost forgot I commented this a few years ago, now I'm an aspiring audio engineer and know way more about this. Thank you for the help though! People need to know these fun tricks.
I'd like to record guitar and a bunch of vst pedals (boost/crunch/od/distortion/tremolo/chorus) and use those with a real delay and/or reverb pedal... doing guitar--->delay--->reverb--->straight in audio interface DI, I think it's not going to work well. I have to record all this mess silently. No amp is permitted. How do I do?
+Firstname Lastname - Yes, it should be perfectly fine. Just to avoid any sudden volume issues, try turning down the levels on your pedals and raising them gradually so that you don't clip your inputs. Happy recording!
Can you do this with a Scarlett 2i2 interface. Like sending audio out from DAW through Scarlett to a pedal and then the processed signal back into the daw?
From what I've found, sometimes with VST's there can be hidden gain added to the track which can throw off the levels when mixing....and it took me a long time to find out why. I can only assume with the physical effects that may not be such a problem. Also, I might have an effects pedal that has a certain tonal quality that is unique. That's just my experience, though. When I was coming up, VST's also left a lot to be desired. They have gotten a lot better in the last 10 years.
Perfect! i have a question if you don't mind. Can i reamp a guitar track that i have already recorded using my sm57 + Vox ac15 + overdrive +Eq +Distortion pedals ? (no effect pedals). I want to record my basic tone and add effect pedals later in a separate track. is it possible? i already have the Radial PRO-RMP. Does the reamping box work only on DI tracks? thank you:)
How would this work in Logix Pro X with a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 2nd generation. I am thinking about getting the cheaper radial reamp box. The ProRmp. Would that work the same?
We tried reamping with the Radial and a previously recorded guitar track, with an Apollo 8pre but we’re getting significant latency between the live amp signal and the recorded track. Anybody have advice on settings for latency? Logic’s Low Latency feature doesn’t have any affect, nor does Logic’s I/O plugin. Is there a setting on the Apollo that we should use?
I'm sure if you don't know what sound that you want, working with a looper pedal would be quite valuable, so you can listen over and over at your take and tweak all the settings and various combos of pedals and amps and/or playing with a bunch of amp and pedal sims and cabinet impulse responses and then once you found that magic combo, either save to buy the actual equipment you like, or rent it or find someone online that can mix it for you with your desired combo or something close. I just did a Google search, looks like a few people offer this service. Alternately buy a Kemper, lol
Hey REVERB or anybody that might be able to help, I really enjoyed this but I didn't quite get something. At 2:28 Sean says... "If you CAN take a direct feed when at home I encourage you". What does he mean by this? I'm just not quite clear on it. Thank you, Buddy
+Buddy Martin Someone recording an amp from the get-go, or for a demo/scratch track/etc. may not necessarily be able to also take a direct line. A DI box (and even some audio interfaces) will often have a "Thru" output to go to the amp while you also record the direct feed. You'll need two open input channels to do this.
Then you don't need a re-amp box. Just record direct and monitor through Amplitube by running your pedalboard into your interface's INSTRUMENT input. Make sure the Amplitube model you choose is a good pedal platform sound and adjust anything accordingly.
No it's not. Basically the reamp box is a DI in reverse, because it takes line-level from your interface output and transform it to instrument level (what comes out of your guitar, much less voltage, in the hundredths of volts) so your can plug it into your amp as if it was your guitar. So a DI increase the voltage if your instrument-level output on your guitar, while a reamp box decrease the voltage of your line-level output from your interface.
@@jas_bataille A DI does not increase the level. It drops both level and impedance, from instrument / high to mic / low. A reamp box drops level from line to instrument and raises the impedance from low to high.
He’s got his mic a foot away from the cone of the amp recording so I can’t do this part at 3:00 am in the morning right ? Trying to understand this so would I have to record with my amp loud just for some dry takes first then re-amp what I have recorded ?
It-s just my opinion, but the end result is bad. I don't know exaclty if it's because of the way the guitar was played, or how he dialed in the tones... but this is not good to my ears at least.. I can't be the only one, right?
It's because there is no mid range, probably because there will be other instruments and vocals over it. Bare in mind the video isn't the final form of the song
Nothing against this guy's sound... I imagine that's what he's going for, a kinda super-lo-fi indie rock thing... but I don't recommend reamping. Reamping works... but it doesn't get a natural result. When you're playing a part with a "direct sound," you aren't hearing your part the way it will actually sound in the end. And that matters. Because if you were to hear your final tone while you were playing, you would likely make different choices with your fingers. So with reamping, what you really get is the amp sound you want, but with a performance that was tailored for a different sound... and that always sounds a little unnatural and quirky. If you're just recording in your room at night, like this dude talks about in the video, then cool... do your thing. But if you want to make a record and hear the performance the way you want it, you should mic up that amp, get a sound you _want_ on your record, and play _to that sound_. You'll be glad in the end.
Agreed, playing totally dry throws my feel way off. When I reamp I monitor through Guitar Rig or Amplitube with some dirt and reverb and end up using a combo of that and the reamped track as often as not
Not really, it depends. When we record our guitars to re-amp later, we use the Radial J48 to split the signal. The balanced output goes to the interface where the clean guitar sound is recorded. The out TRHU goes to a real amp head dialed as close as possible to the sound we want. That way while you are playing/recording, what you hear and feel comes from the real amplifier. Later we have the luxury to choose the head, microphone position, effects etc, that better fits the song.
@@DametuAlma This. The advice to not do re-amping because you might not capture the true feel of a performance is just silly. Why not do both? Go for your sound and have clean signal recorded in parallel. That's the best of both worlds. Re-amping just gives you more options, and that's good if you're developing a song and you realize halfway through that you'd like to make a pretty drastic change to one of the guitar tracks that you originally thought was going to work perfectly but it's suddenly starting to sound a bit off.
Reamping is also a great way to play w mic placement w/o having some d-bag guitarist breathing down your neck. Find 2-3 that sound good and track all of them - band can pick one tomorrow when they wander back in :-)
+Tioga Fretworks As a guitarist, personally I defer to the soundman. They are responsible for getting the greater mix right, and to quote Mister Spock, "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few." Our sound guys also have a really good respect for our tonal preferences. Communication and respect are the keys.
+Tioga Fretworks As a guitarist, personally I defer to the soundman. They are responsible for getting the greater mix right, and to quote Mister Spock, "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few." Our sound guys also have a really good respect for our tonal preferences. Communication and respect are the keys.
apparently playing in tune or time is not a priority for reverb.com No, seriously... I mean; yes, the guy showed what the process is and why you would want to do it... but, WTF is that cacophony?
Great video. It would have a been an added bonus to see him set the inputs and outputs in the DAW too. And plugging in the cables, etc. For the full, full version
My sentiments exactly... is there a full version? I have watched several versions of exactly this and have gotten nowhere. Alot of these videos are a waste of time because they don't show you how they just tell you it can be done.
Listening to the sound of the dry guitar being, recorded, I thought it sounded extremely out of tune, but hearing the finished product, it actually sounded great! Cool video.
Robert Simpson still way out of tune.
Weird as style of playing not gonna lie
@@dylanskye1534 but effective for the track, though, IMO
My mind is blown - can't believe I haven't tried this yet! Thank you!!
Those guitar parts were amazing!
I never knew what re-amping was before watching this, and this provided a great explanation. Hat tip.
I feel like I need to watch it a couple more times to understand
@@christopherrusch Stick with me mate, it's very simple, just very counter-intuitive... basically if you wanna use an amp and pedals, you would first set those up, then plug-in your guitar, then record... right? Right. OK.
Well... not with re-amping. Re-amping means you first record a "dry" track, which means : no amp, no pedal, your guitar is plugged straight into you audio interface, with no effect added whatsoever just the clean signal and proper gain.
Then, once this is done, what a reamp box allows you to do is to take the track you recorded and to pass this track *through your amp and pedal set-up*.
It basically allows you to do the recording process in reverse. This is very handy because when you put a lot of effects during recording first, after that you can't remove them if they're analogue effects (not like plug-ins) and you might end up with too many effects on a great take that will muddy-up your mix. That's why re-amping is so cool.
Hope you understand. Think "re"-amp = "re"-verse, it's the reverse of a standard way to record ;)
Crazy awesome, dudes! I've been wondering what reamping is and how to do it for so long. It never made sense until I was actually able to see it in this video. Thanks!
Wow, this makes layering a lot less of a pain in the butt! Geez I wish I knew about re amping sooner!
That Supro in the back is gorgeous.
So, what would ve the difference between recording directly and reamping, instead of using a di cab sim and recording directly through that? Sounds like reamping is more if you want to add stuff later on, but still not sure
got some of your tunes on bandcamp. love the weird time, super strange, interesting stuff man. KEEP IT UP!!!
Excellent video, just what I was looking for. ROCK ON
Really interesting never seen that before. Would be interesting to do a comparison of recording live into the amp and Reamping to see how close the two sound
Got to be a baritone Epi, pretty cool. Cool tips, I'm still learning this stuff for my studio (using Reaper).
Man that has got some great bass tone (the finished product that is)
I wasn't ready for that riff. It sounded amazing!
Can you guys do a recording tricks where you explain using something like the teac portastudio to warm up a digital track through tape. That trick was briefly mentioned in your recording swiss army knife article but I've been having a hard time finding out how to do it
Tristan McGarr it Might be something like throwing your tracks from the Computer to the Tape and do some eq/comp there, to achieve that Tape compression and warm character, and then run it again to the PC
Record track, during playback set that tracks output to the line going to your portastudio, route the output from the portastudio to a new input and record that. If you don’t like what came out you still have the original so you can mess with it as much as you’d like.
@@brianvillage5 Damn, I almost forgot I commented this a few years ago, now I'm an aspiring audio engineer and know way more about this. Thank you for the help though! People need to know these fun tricks.
Dude, all the tricks!!!
Can the same principles be applied for a vocal track or drum track that you want to run through say an external preamp or compressor etc?
love these types of videos, so informative
thanks very much for sharing your expertise!
Wilshireeeee! 11/10 would watch again
I'd like to record guitar and a bunch of vst pedals (boost/crunch/od/distortion/tremolo/chorus) and use those with a real delay and/or reverb pedal... doing guitar--->delay--->reverb--->straight in audio interface DI, I think it's not going to work well. I have to record all this mess silently. No amp is permitted. How do I do?
did you finish the song? it really kicks ass!
+VikingVertigo Check out the final track, and more of Sean's music here: goo.gl/6Zt3eH
It hasn't been coming up. Did he take it down? I was stoked to hear the final product
3:58 - Bal Output = Line Output - Just checking. Can you do this with an active Countryman 85 DI Box?
very, very useful! thx! great tone!
I always felt like I needed to *reamp my elektrik gkuitar* boy.... Really, love it
So is this the method you would employ using aux sends on the mixer with pedal effects instead of rackmount effects?
Love this song
I just bought my first interface, is it safe to plug my guitar pedals to the interface?
+Firstname Lastname - Yes, it should be perfectly fine. Just to avoid any sudden volume issues, try turning down the levels on your pedals and raising them gradually so that you don't clip your inputs. Happy recording!
thank you for your reply
Can you do this with a Scarlett 2i2 interface. Like sending audio out from DAW through Scarlett to a pedal and then the processed signal back into the daw?
what's the common thing in recording season? did you put your effects when mixing or add effects when recording? ...
More about preference tbh
Saun is my friend now :') So happy
Can you explain the signal chain a little bit? Is it interface > reamp box > amplifier?
So what would be the point of reamping if you can just add effects through a VST like pod farm?
From what I've found, sometimes with VST's there can be hidden gain added to the track which can throw off the levels when mixing....and it took me a long time to find out why. I can only assume with the physical effects that may not be such a problem. Also, I might have an effects pedal that has a certain tonal quality that is unique. That's just my experience, though. When I was coming up, VST's also left a lot to be desired. They have gotten a lot better in the last 10 years.
The point is merely that it will sound different and the experience will be different - and you may enjoy that difference! So why not, eh?
What kind of camera do you guys use when shooting video content?
How do I playmy daw instruments through guitar pedals‽
THANK YOU SOOOOO FREAKING MUCH!!!!!!
Perfect! i have a question if you don't mind. Can i reamp a guitar track that i have already recorded using my sm57 + Vox ac15 + overdrive +Eq +Distortion pedals ? (no effect pedals). I want to record my basic tone and add effect pedals later in a separate track. is it possible? i already have the Radial PRO-RMP. Does the reamping box work only on DI tracks? thank you:)
you can do that
@@wookielocks thanks!
How would this work in Logix Pro X with a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 2nd generation. I am thinking about getting the cheaper radial reamp box. The ProRmp. Would that work the same?
We tried reamping with the Radial and a previously recorded guitar track, with an Apollo 8pre but we’re getting significant latency between the live amp signal and the recorded track. Anybody have advice on settings for latency? Logic’s Low Latency feature doesn’t have any affect, nor does Logic’s I/O plugin. Is there a setting on the Apollo that we should use?
That's awesome!
Pretty much all I needed in a few seconds at 3:56, if you already know how to record the dry direct guitar part, and route it out the DAW.
so when you go from the output of the reamp box do you go through the fx pedals and then to the amp? cause he said the amp
I'm sure if you don't know what sound that you want, working with a looper pedal would be quite valuable, so you can listen over and over at your take and tweak all the settings and various combos of pedals and amps and/or playing with a bunch of amp and pedal sims and cabinet impulse responses and then once you found that magic combo, either save to buy the actual equipment you like, or rent it or find someone online that can mix it for you with your desired combo or something close. I just did a Google search, looks like a few people offer this service. Alternately buy a Kemper, lol
Hey REVERB or anybody that might be able to help, I really enjoyed this but I didn't quite get something. At 2:28 Sean says... "If you CAN take a direct feed when at home I encourage you". What does he mean by this? I'm just not quite clear on it. Thank you, Buddy
+Buddy Martin Someone recording an amp from the get-go, or for a demo/scratch track/etc. may not necessarily be able to also take a direct line. A DI box (and even some audio interfaces) will often have a "Thru" output to go to the amp while you also record the direct feed. You'll need two open input channels to do this.
what about the ones who don't have a good amp right now but want to use amp simulators like amplitube etc and also want to record their own pedals?
Then you don't need a re-amp box. Just record direct and monitor through Amplitube by running your pedalboard into your interface's INSTRUMENT input. Make sure the Amplitube model you choose is a good pedal platform sound and adjust anything accordingly.
También puedes grabar con Guitar Rig, la señal siempre queda limpia....
so when you go from the output of the reamp box do you go through the fx pedals and then to the amp? cause he said the amp
John Smith think of the reamp box as the guitar, set up your chain however you wish after that.
@@brianvillage5 thanks a lot
please its allways importend to look its the intonation good on my guitar, second i have to check its my guitar really in tune. but a good video....
what cable do you use to go from the interface to the reamp?
You need to use a balanced cable. I had the same question. I had to use a quarter inch to TRS balance cable.
is a reamp box and a DI box the same thing?
No it's not.
Basically the reamp box is a DI in reverse, because it takes line-level from your interface output and transform it to instrument level (what comes out of your guitar, much less voltage, in the hundredths of volts) so your can plug it into your amp as if it was your guitar. So a DI increase the voltage if your instrument-level output on your guitar, while a reamp box decrease the voltage of your line-level output from your interface.
@@jas_bataille A DI does not increase the level. It drops both level and impedance, from instrument / high to mic / low. A reamp box drops level from line to instrument and raises the impedance from low to high.
We're friends now? Yay! New friend! :D
He never blinks!!!!!!!
but why active reamp instead of passive reamp?
yo will you play guitar in my band?
He’s got his mic a foot away from the cone of the amp recording so I can’t do this part at 3:00 am in the morning right ?
Trying to understand this so would I have to record with my amp loud just for some dry takes first then re-amp what I have recorded ?
It-s just my opinion, but the end result is bad. I don't know exaclty if it's because of the way the guitar was played, or how he dialed in the tones... but this is not good to my ears at least.. I can't be the only one, right?
It's because there is no mid range, probably because there will be other instruments and vocals over it. Bare in mind the video isn't the final form of the song
Why not just use VST plugin amps with a good set of speakers??
Das Bas, Gitar, Vocles, Durms... :D
Reamping isn't going to necessarily make things any quieter. It's called attenuation or using speaker load box, goofball..
Nothing against this guy's sound... I imagine that's what he's going for, a kinda super-lo-fi indie rock thing... but I don't recommend reamping. Reamping works... but it doesn't get a natural result. When you're playing a part with a "direct sound," you aren't hearing your part the way it will actually sound in the end. And that matters. Because if you were to hear your final tone while you were playing, you would likely make different choices with your fingers. So with reamping, what you really get is the amp sound you want, but with a performance that was tailored for a different sound... and that always sounds a little unnatural and quirky. If you're just recording in your room at night, like this dude talks about in the video, then cool... do your thing. But if you want to make a record and hear the performance the way you want it, you should mic up that amp, get a sound you _want_ on your record, and play _to that sound_. You'll be glad in the end.
Agreed, playing totally dry throws my feel way off. When I reamp I monitor through Guitar Rig or Amplitube with some dirt and reverb and end up using a combo of that and the reamped track as often as not
Not really, it depends. When we record our guitars to re-amp later, we use the Radial J48 to split the signal. The balanced output goes to the interface where the clean guitar sound is recorded. The out TRHU goes to a real amp head dialed as close as possible to the sound we want. That way while you are playing/recording, what you hear and feel comes from the real amplifier. Later we have the luxury to choose the head, microphone position, effects etc, that better fits the song.
@@DametuAlma This. The advice to not do re-amping because you might not capture the true feel of a performance is just silly. Why not do both? Go for your sound and have clean signal recorded in parallel. That's the best of both worlds. Re-amping just gives you more options, and that's good if you're developing a song and you realize halfway through that you'd like to make a pretty drastic change to one of the guitar tracks that you originally thought was going to work perfectly but it's suddenly starting to sound a bit off.
Well, you would normally play through a vst that is giving you a close sound. You normally wouldn't play clean.
Reamping is also a great way to play w mic placement w/o having some d-bag guitarist breathing down your neck. Find 2-3 that sound good and track all of them - band can pick one tomorrow when they wander back in :-)
+Tioga Fretworks - good point!
+Tioga Fretworks As a guitarist, personally I defer to the soundman. They are responsible for getting the greater mix right, and to quote Mister Spock, "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few."
Our sound guys also have a really good respect for our tonal preferences. Communication and respect are the keys.
+Tioga Fretworks As a guitarist, personally I defer to the soundman. They are responsible for getting the greater mix right, and to quote Mister Spock, "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few."
Our sound guys also have a really good respect for our tonal preferences. Communication and respect are the keys.
I love those headphones but they clamp like a mother :/
DURMS!
I think you might need to use my product first: ReGuitar
This recording sounds exactly like 2003 when I had a shitty First Act guitar from Walmart that could never actually be in tune.
apparently playing in tune or time is not a priority for reverb.com
No, seriously... I mean; yes, the guy showed what the process is and why you would want to do it... but, WTF is that cacophony?
You not a fan of odd rhythms and chords? That track was awesome!
Sergio Terol this fucking awesome track... if you want to find guitar licking practice go check out another video.
hey I thought it sounded pretty dope. zeppliny.
Breaking news: Guy who tries to exude his superior musical intellect instead highlights his ignorance to anything other than a simple 4/4 pattern.
Micky Kelly chords aside the guitar was still out of tune
out of tune
it aint rock n roll if its in tune
Pro tools is trash