Kenny was one of the very best fiddlers ever. And Bill is a true legend for our kind of traditional Bluegrass music! God Bless & Keep them! We'll always remember them fondly & love their music! :)
Great posting !! This is genuine "collectors' item" grade footage .. so rare to see two legends of American Bluegrass Music in action like Bill & Kenny Baker here together .. down home at Bill's place at Jerusalem Ridge.
Ethnic Scots, mainly from Northern Ireland, settled very heavily in the Southern Appalachian mountains. This would include eastern Tennessee, eastern Kentucky, West Virginia, southwest Virginia, western North Carolina, and bits of South Carolina and northern Georgia. Almost all the whites native to these areas have at least a little Scottish blood.
Such a privilege to hear Bill Monroe play "Jenny Lynn" -- a famous song, it is immortalized in the bridge of his famous fiddle tune "Uncle Pen": "He played a song called Solider's Joy, and one they call the Boston Boy, But the greatest of all was Jenny Lynn, To me that's where the fiddle begin." "Jenny Lynn" is seldom recorded so it is great to hear Monroe play it on the mandolin. Thanks for posting!
Actually Aly Bain was better known in America as one of the key studio musicians in the famous Trans-Atlantic Sessions 1995 -1996 and played & recorded with Iris Dement, Jay Ungar, ,JL Menard , Dewey Balfa , Michael Doucet and Beau Soleil , Jerry Douglas , Emmy Lou Harris , Dobro Danny , Russ Barenberg , ,JP Fraley , Mark O'connor , Bill Monroe ,Tommy jarrell , ,Johnny gimble , Kathy Matteo , and Ricky Skaggs just to mention some of his American collaborations ,simply one of the world's best
bill monroe wrote this in recognition of scottish fiddle reel music in appalachian and bluegrass fiddle music. fiddle reel music being indigenous to scotland having made it's way over to ireland in the 1800s alang with 100s o scots tunes.
He certainly is a superb musician--but I was referring to the older 'first generation' American artists. Aly is probably better known in Canada than here in the USA--and he certainly deserves better recognition in the states, alright!
Actually,you do a great disservice by not mentioning one of the world's finest fiddlers , Aly Bain , from Lerwick , Shetland , in Scotland !! He has travelled the world learning from and observing other fiddlers,Appalachia,Louisiana,etc. Simply a magnificent fiddler, and that would be him on the left in the burgundy sweater, Albainn Gu Brath !!!!
Yes, but just to add, not all Scots in Ireland came from Ayrshire. Some of my ancestors came from Wigtownshire (then went to the Counties Down, Cavan, and Tyrone in Ireland, immigrated to Philadelphia, pushed into the interior of Pennsylvania, and then followed the Appalachians south). The overwhelming majority of Scotch-Irish forebears were from the western lowlands, a lot from Ayrshire but from other areas too.
Well I guess I got that history wrong didn't I? Thanks for the correction...By the way...I've been doing some family research and I have McCoy's in my bloodline, family legend says they came from county Donegal in Ireland...as far as I know they've always been Protestant, should I assume they were Scotch-Irish
mm413c is correct about the Ulster Scotsmen. They called themselves Irish, though. The "Scotch-Irish is an Americanism used by the rest of the country to identify them. They had at least a hundred-year stopoff in Ulster before they started coming in the 1700's. They filled much of Pennsylvania and moved southward eventually filling most of the South, and Texas, Missouri and Kansas. The "Shamrock" Irish came in the 1800's mostly.
Well, Force, I agree that the Scots-Irish are a big part of the South, but still there were more Englishmen who came to the South than ethnic Scots and more Southerners have English names than Scottish, so let's not forget the English influence either. Plus, at least in the upper South some Germans did immigrate during the 1600 and 1700s and some others followed the mountains in PA down into WV and Southwest VA from Pennsylvania. The later German immigrants in the 1800s largely avoided the South
My blood line is Celtic, and it's historicly older than that of the known first historical mention of the name Scotland which came about 800years ago, my blood line goes back to about 810 years ago. In fact the lion rampant insignia was brought over by my bloodline as it's used in my clan crest, again this can be proven with historical records. The true scots were Picts and they integrated with the celts over the years, no one can relate to the picts, cos it's no fully known what happened.
also, woody guthrie was inspired by scottish music. bob dylan also uses a couple o scots melodies. irish music only started in the late 50s early 60s (i know because i was around then) when irish bands like the clancies etc appeared and adopted the scottish style alang with many scots an english sangs. fiddle reel music is indigenous to scotland , jigs and hornpipes to england. the lowland scots would have taken their music to the americay and canada alang with the highlanders. most of of the ulster scots would still have been full scots having lived in ireland a few years then leaving for amerikay(due to the tensions in ireland. many of these scots would have went direct to amerikay instead of ulster. bluegrass has it,s roots in scotland. the english/scots/ welsh were the first to arrive .
Read about the. Battle of Kings Mountain in 1781 during the American Revolutionary War!!! The British Army found out the hard way about what happens when you mess with and threaten Ulster Scots, the British Officers corpse, who commanded the redcoats is still buried on that Mountain Top!
my family goes back to some bacteria about 4.5 billion years ago. figure i'm related to anyone who reads this. there have been some hellish family fueds down through the years, but here we are, breating the sweet air of the present moment. that was then, this is now. glad you're here, whoever you are. "i greet this day with a forgiving spirit. i forgive myself." my good dog is maybe my 8 millionth cousin. her wolf ancestors probably ate some of my closer relatives. that's ok. bff
I'm Scottish 1st 2nd would ee Scottish/English 3rd Europian Where I came from we drink Scotch (but call it WHISKY & spell it that way) , People are not scotch - whisky is though. Nonethe less Bluegrass is great
No you are wrong, the PICTS were a seperate tribe from the CELTS, the Picts were here in Scotland before the Celts, and in fact were here before any viking/Roman Invasions took place, it is said that after the Invasions etc, they integrated with the new settlers over time. Most of the lot from ireland are of spanish ancestory about 1000years back or so, so are there truly celts, is anyone truly a single race? probably not.
The Picts weren't a tribe , they were a loose confederation of groups. The Celts weren't a tribe either , it was a culture and group of languages that came to Britain during the bronze age .
ronpaul08supporter, just to make a slight correction, Queen Mary(known as Bloody Mary) was not Queen of Scots, that was a different Mary. Both Marys were in fact staunch Catholics, and Queen Mary tried to bring England back to Catholicism. Under Mary's reign the burning of Protestants at the stake was what led to her getting the "Bloody" prefix. It was her Protestant sister Elizabeth 1 who became Queen after Mary's death that was responsible for the settlement of Scots Protestants in .Ulster.
okay I have too much to say in one small bit of txt, but i'll try. you have to look at what kind of history will survive, and the kinds of history that will survive for sure, are those of notable interest, such as royalty or those who helped royalty for instance. the McNamara clan from county clare, were the forebearers to the throne of ireland, that means we are well documented. I am a McNamara, and my family crest shows the Lion rampant before it was used for Scotland.
continuation from above post. The lion rampant was brought to scotland about 800 years ago, and used as it's national symbol, it is a royal crest even today, so we (McNamara's) have this in our family crest because we were the forebearers to the throne of ireland. Hence marking out at least the last 800 years of history for us. I also happen to know that my family name is older than 800 years from other history. It is said the picts merged with the celts.
Chad, I wonder if you're not misunderstanding the American usage of Scots-Irish. It has nothing to do with Irish settlement in Scotland. When Ulster Scotsmen came to America, they were asked where they were from and they would list Ireland; yet they were clearly different from ethnic Irish Catholics, so they called themselves "Scotch-Irish." The Irish part of "Scots-Irish" or more commonly "Scotch-Irish" is just to designate where they emigrated from, not to suggest their ethnicity/nationality.
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LOve listening to Aly Bain dialect...oh the fiddle tune is wonderful too. i play it meself.. I am proud of my clan Moncrief. lowland scot.
Kenny was one of the very best fiddlers ever. And Bill is a true legend for our kind of traditional Bluegrass music! God Bless & Keep them! We'll always remember them fondly & love their music! :)
Great posting !! This is genuine "collectors' item" grade footage .. so rare to see two legends of American Bluegrass Music in action like Bill & Kenny Baker here together .. down home at Bill's place at Jerusalem Ridge.
My last name is Shaw, there's little wonder why I love this kind of music so much.
Scottish or not this is great stuff. Many many thanks'!!
Ethnic Scots, mainly from Northern Ireland, settled very heavily in the Southern Appalachian mountains. This would include eastern Tennessee, eastern Kentucky, West Virginia, southwest Virginia, western North Carolina, and bits of South Carolina and northern Georgia. Almost all the whites native to these areas have at least a little Scottish blood.
one of my favorite songs ever. thanks for posting.
Two of the finest interpreters of traditional string band music; Monroe a leader, and Warren a longtime sideman--he was my favorite fiddler!
Such a privilege to hear Bill Monroe play "Jenny Lynn" -- a famous song, it is immortalized in the bridge of his famous fiddle tune "Uncle Pen":
"He played a song called Solider's Joy,
and one they call the Boston Boy,
But the greatest of all was Jenny Lynn,
To me that's where the fiddle begin."
"Jenny Lynn" is seldom recorded so it is great to hear Monroe play it on the mandolin.
Thanks for posting!
it's like seeing a ghost watching this! Thank you for posting. As the uncle penn song quotes " jenny lynn - that is where fiddling began"
The best music was right here🎵👍🇺🇸
Actually Aly Bain was better known in America as one of the key studio musicians in the famous Trans-Atlantic Sessions 1995 -1996 and played & recorded with Iris Dement, Jay Ungar, ,JL Menard , Dewey Balfa , Michael Doucet and Beau Soleil , Jerry Douglas , Emmy Lou Harris , Dobro Danny , Russ Barenberg , ,JP Fraley , Mark O'connor , Bill Monroe ,Tommy jarrell , ,Johnny gimble , Kathy Matteo , and Ricky Skaggs just to mention some of his American collaborations ,simply one of the world's best
bill monroe wrote this in recognition of scottish fiddle reel music in appalachian and bluegrass fiddle music. fiddle reel music being indigenous to scotland having made it's way over to ireland in the 1800s alang with 100s o scots tunes.
I miss Bill...
I adored Kenny's music.
Treasure this film thanks to all participants
He certainly is a superb musician--but I was referring to the older 'first generation' American artists. Aly is probably better known in Canada than here in the USA--and he certainly deserves better recognition in the states, alright!
Actually,you do a great disservice by not mentioning one of the world's finest fiddlers , Aly Bain , from Lerwick , Shetland , in Scotland !! He has travelled the world learning from and observing other fiddlers,Appalachia,Louisiana,etc. Simply a magnificent fiddler, and that would be him on the left in the burgundy sweater, Albainn Gu Brath !!!!
Yes, but just to add, not all Scots in Ireland came from Ayrshire. Some of my ancestors came from Wigtownshire (then went to the Counties Down, Cavan, and Tyrone in Ireland, immigrated to Philadelphia, pushed into the interior of Pennsylvania, and then followed the Appalachians south). The overwhelming majority of Scotch-Irish forebears were from the western lowlands, a lot from Ayrshire but from other areas too.
Yes. I love this.
Sounds great
Well I guess I got that history wrong didn't I? Thanks for the correction...By the way...I've been doing some family research and I have McCoy's in my bloodline, family legend says they came from county Donegal in Ireland...as far as I know they've always been Protestant, should I assume they were Scotch-Irish
mm413c is correct about the Ulster Scotsmen. They called themselves Irish, though. The "Scotch-Irish is an Americanism used by the rest of the country to identify them. They had at least a hundred-year stopoff in Ulster before they started coming in the 1700's. They filled much of Pennsylvania and moved southward eventually filling most of the South, and Texas, Missouri and Kansas.
The "Shamrock" Irish came in the 1800's mostly.
Down to earth folk.
Class
The diaspora is there are more Scots living in Canada, the United States and other parts the world than there are Scots in Scotland.
Ken, Toronto
Well, Force, I agree that the Scots-Irish are a big part of the South, but still there were more Englishmen who came to the South than ethnic Scots and more Southerners have English names than Scottish, so let's not forget the English influence either. Plus, at least in the upper South some Germans did immigrate during the 1600 and 1700s and some others followed the mountains in PA down into WV and Southwest VA from Pennsylvania. The later German immigrants in the 1800s largely avoided the South
The difference being the music , Scots play the best folk music.
The great Chris Jones is on the guitar.You didn't include him on your description.
Thanks for the video.
My blood line is Celtic, and it's historicly older than that of the known first historical mention of the name Scotland which came about 800years ago, my blood line goes back to about 810 years ago.
In fact the lion rampant insignia was brought over by my bloodline as it's used in my clan crest, again this can be proven with historical records.
The true scots were Picts and they integrated with the celts over the years, no one can relate to the picts, cos it's no fully known what happened.
Nine Below Zero (uk band rock blues) took this music for harp intro on Ridin' on the L&N
also, woody guthrie was inspired by scottish music. bob dylan also uses a couple o scots melodies. irish music only started in the late 50s early 60s (i know because i was around then) when irish bands like the clancies etc appeared and adopted the scottish style alang with many scots an english sangs. fiddle reel music is indigenous to scotland , jigs and hornpipes to england. the lowland scots would have taken their music to the americay and canada alang with the highlanders. most of of the ulster scots would still have been full scots having lived in ireland a few years then leaving for amerikay(due to the tensions in ireland. many of these scots would have went direct to amerikay instead of ulster. bluegrass has it,s roots in scotland. the english/scots/ welsh were the first to arrive .
Read about the. Battle of Kings Mountain in 1781 during the American Revolutionary War!!! The British Army found out the hard way about what happens when you mess with and threaten Ulster Scots, the British Officers corpse, who commanded the redcoats is still buried on that Mountain Top!
That is Wayne Lewis on guitar -- not Chris Jones as someone previously posted.
my family goes back to some bacteria about 4.5 billion years ago. figure i'm related to anyone who reads this. there have been some hellish family fueds down through the years, but here we are, breating the sweet air of the present moment. that was then, this is now. glad you're here, whoever you are. "i greet this day with a forgiving spirit. i forgive myself." my good dog is maybe my 8 millionth cousin. her wolf ancestors probably ate some of my closer relatives. that's ok. bff
I believe Monroe would do it that way...
I'm Scottish 1st
2nd would ee Scottish/English
3rd Europian
Where I came from we drink Scotch (but call it WHISKY & spell it that way) , People are not scotch - whisky is though.
Nonethe less Bluegrass is great
No you are wrong, the PICTS were a seperate tribe from the CELTS, the Picts were here in Scotland before the Celts, and in fact were here before any viking/Roman Invasions took place, it is said that after the Invasions etc, they integrated with the new settlers over time.
Most of the lot from ireland are of spanish ancestory about 1000years back or so, so are there truly celts, is anyone truly a single race? probably not.
The Picts weren't a tribe , they were a loose confederation of groups. The Celts weren't a tribe either , it was a culture and group of languages that came to Britain during the bronze age .
@@benmacdui9328 well group or gethering of peoples, but there was a marked difference between celts and picts... it's even in the art left behind.
ronpaul08supporter, just to make a slight correction, Queen Mary(known as Bloody Mary) was not Queen of Scots, that was a different Mary. Both Marys were in fact staunch Catholics, and Queen Mary tried to bring England back to Catholicism. Under Mary's reign the burning of Protestants at the stake was what led to her getting the "Bloody" prefix. It was her Protestant sister Elizabeth 1 who became Queen after Mary's death that was responsible for the settlement of Scots Protestants in .Ulster.
okay I have too much to say in one small bit of txt, but i'll try.
you have to look at what kind of history will survive, and the kinds of history that will survive for sure, are those of notable interest, such as royalty or those who helped royalty for instance.
the McNamara clan from county clare, were the forebearers to the throne of ireland, that means we are well documented.
I am a McNamara, and my family crest shows the Lion rampant before it was used for Scotland.
continuation from above post.
The lion rampant was brought to scotland about 800 years ago, and used as it's national symbol, it is a royal crest even today, so we (McNamara's) have this in our family crest because we were the forebearers to the throne of ireland.
Hence marking out at least the last 800 years of history for us.
I also happen to know that my family name is older than 800 years from other history.
It is said the picts merged with the celts.
Chad, I wonder if you're not misunderstanding the American usage of Scots-Irish. It has nothing to do with Irish settlement in Scotland. When Ulster Scotsmen came to America, they were asked where they were from and they would list Ireland; yet they were clearly different from ethnic Irish Catholics, so they called themselves "Scotch-Irish." The Irish part of "Scots-Irish" or more commonly "Scotch-Irish" is just to designate where they emigrated from, not to suggest their ethnicity/nationality.
is the Fiona Ritchie narrating?