@@Ragitsu Oh, just complaining about the rediculous number of shows that use a few locations around LA as alien planets. Used to live there, so a bit of dressing and maybe shifting the color grading really doesn't hide it for me. BC is prettier anyway
Yeah me too. Among the very last of quality tv. Those who called stargate “poor man’s Star Trek” have no idea what they’re talking about. It’s completely different.
@@HowDidIGet3700Subs Star Trek was amazing (at its peak, anyway), but I always preferred shows that followed a serial format, rather than an episodic format, so Stargate was certainly superior in that regard.
@@PistonAvatarGuy like I said I disagree with you types. I love Star Trek & I love stargate. They’re both totally different types of show. One is set in space in future, one is set on earth in present. Totally different.
Government: "Why are we spending 3.2 billion on these mal..Malps? What are you guys doing that requires so many?" Gen Hammond: "All Terrain Long Distance Bomb Defusal"
MALP was distentegrated in the unstable vortex of the wormhole. Though it seems like SG-1 went through the same wormhole as the MALP, they would have needed time to gear up and plan their operation before going through, meaning they activated the stargate a second time, thereby disintegrating the MALP.
So they had no eyes on the other side when they went through, meaning rather than being the perfect foxhole, that could have been a horrific ambush site had just 3 jaffa been stood at the top of the pit. Jacks argument should not have convinced Hammond.
@@Slavir_Nabru Alpha Site was hidden, both by being a world the Goa'uld did not know of and by requiring the transplantation of a stargate and thereby requiring a new address. The most likely reason for the Goa'uld to attack is to seize or destroy any prototypes or information regarding the disruptor, items most likely carried off by survivors after the self-destruct. Therefore, surviving Goa'uld would be tasked with finding the Alpha site survivors that fled into the trees and, with the stargate upside down, it is unlikely the survivors would be able to use it, so there is little reason to guard it. Jack's plan is dangerous, but reasonable.
@@atolokes yeah i never felt like going in was the most unreasonable plan as its unlikely there would be an ambush as like you point out for all those reasons.
@@atolokes other than if its on its side, how would they manually dial it to leave without being in the way of the "flush", that part of Jacks plan is abit flawed
@@AdmiralJT They only need to establish a connection to radio the All-Clear, then the SGC can send lift gear through to right the stargate for them to gate through.
You are unfortunately right... even tho they used UAVs, that usage was limited and even outdated to what actual military had (in series they used only those slingshot launched spotting drones). If it was made are any modern tv series we would have swarms of mini quadrocopters on every mission.
@@cola98765 nah, they'd have a couple sure, but you'd still need to send teams through, along with some sort of mule bot (the MALP can do that admittedly), and in the series, they always send a MALP through first to unknown destinations, if the MALP ends up getting blasted, floating off into space, or picked up... it's probably not a good idea to send people through
I love the production value of mid-series Stargate, the "hole" is only 2 feet deep and the ladder is only 4 rungs, they keep changing the camera angle to make it seem much deeper but the actors could barely lay down in it without hitting the gate. Just one more notch on the list of things us fans will overlook but still laugh at :)
Definitely noticed that. You'd think the hole would be as deep as the flush when the gate activates, but it''s clearly pretty short. Also... where's the MALP? It's arguably excusable, but only if you say they redialed, and hence, vaporized the MALP.
@@ocdtrekkie They did have to redial, several times to bring more personnel in. The hole only fits a couple people so they had to dial in, disconnect, climb out, and repeat.
I think that's a sign that the director and production folks knew what they were doing. Cheap out as much as you can without killing the viewer's suspension of disbelief.
You are correct. It appears to be a strange continuity issue between the overhead shot and the ground level shot. I believe there was an episode (S03E17 A Hundred Days) where the gate was covered by some sort of superheated rock caused by being struck by a meteor leaving Jack stranded on the planet. Teal'c had to get break through before his oxygen ran out and he was in the area the bubble created as the gate was buried horizontally and was much larger than this.
@@theextremegulp Correct. The difference here however is that gate was placed on gravel (MALP showed it), and while hole seems a bit small because of direct overhead shot, it explains why the hole is not as steep and why it's as wide as the gate.
4:00 Didn't notice it when originally watching but if the trees were knocked down in a blast...they snapped off sheer. Look to the left of Teal'c's arm. Blast acted like a chainsaw :P
I swear I always remember the shot of two soldiers walking used often, one holding their rifle behind their back. Small things I can't help but notice.
It would be way cooler if the gate fell over the on its back and the team would have to jump through perfectly coordinated along with SGC turning the gate off the moment they are fully through. Or they'd lose legs. Or die. :3
The fact SG-3 arrived before SG-1 righted the gate means SG-1 couldn’t have dialed out to let the SGC know it was safe to dial in. So the SGC dialed the gate not knowing if SG-1 was still in the hole, trapped by enemy fire.
Imagine if the gate made a hole so deep they could not get out of it. They would have to sit in that hole and hope nobody dials in and Sam manages to survive and help them out.
Well spotted - it certainly appears that way. Although when the unbroken shot pans down and back up, the emblem is there. I think it's down to video compression.
Fast-talking Daniel reminds me why I watch the DVDs with the subtitles on! :-) Fortunately the scripts are online to make up for youtube's subtitles. I think i would have sent a nice matress through the gate first in hopes of a softer landing.
Had to look up the definition on google for "extream cuation" - uncountable careful thought and lack of hurry in order to try to avoid risks or danger. with caution: He was instructed to act with extreme caution.
Was anyone thinking the writers (O'neil's) logic was flawed here? "The perfect foxhole" wouldn't really help considering they would be under the gate when it established connection vaporizing them if the hole is the same size as the ejection. Not to mention the ladder was still intact when the other team arrived O.o
@@NitpickingNerd They could just have taken the ladder out and replaced it. The *real* question is what happens if you taken a ladder that is longer than the hole behind the gate, because the gate sends matter in single chunks, so the ladder exiting would extend into the ground. My favourite part of Stargate lore is honestly that it makes _just enough_ sense to endlessly speculate on how it _really_ works. Its pretty unique in that for me.
A better question than the MALP thing: how are they going to go back? Manual dialing is one thing, but the gate is far too heavy for them to just flip it over without industrial equipment and unless you suddenly grow leg muscles powerful enough to jump several meters high vertically, you physically can't enter the face-down event horizon without the gravity pulling you back out before you're fully inside.
Or, wait for Hammond to check in and request he send through a hydraulic press, a telescoping armature, and a winch. They can run the equipment off of the naquada generator they brought with them. But first things first. Secure the perimeter, find survivors.... Um, guys? Somebody want to pull the ladder up out of the hole? ## Kerwhoosh! ## Sigh. We lose more ladders that way.
Step 1: Dig a tunnel beside the gate large enough for everyone to crawl through into the hole that the ka-woosh excavated. Step 2: Make sure nobody is in the hole! Step 3: Dial the gate. Step 4: Wait for the ka-woosh to end. Step 5: Insert a ladder into the tunnel. Step 6: Crawl through the tunnel (repeat this step for each team member going through the gate) Step 7: Put the ladder up into the gate with the feet of the ladder on the ground. Step 8: Everyone climb up the ladder into the gate; everyone will go through the gate head-first with their feet towards the ground of the departure planet. Step 9: Exit the gate at the SGC; everyone will come out head-first, face down so make sure everyone is prepared to fall on their face. Step 10: Pick yourself up off the ramp (some ramp-face may occur). Step 11: Debrief. Questions?
@@g00gleminus96 Step 7.5: Call ahead to Hammond and ask him to station two large, husky Marines at the top of the ramp to help people dismount the ladder.
@@g00gleminus96 To be honest, after the energy cost of a gateopening went down, i would have taken the gate and started the Gate tunneling company. Like think about it one kerwosh and its like 5 meters of tunnel no matter how hard the rock.
So, here they materialised under the stargate and fell down - but what would happen if someone materialises above the event horizon and falls back into the stargate?
@BrokenCurtain We see exactly this in the episode "A Hundred Days" (season 3). The gate is lying on its back and the MALP comes through with just enough momentum to exit the gate, before falling back to its destruction.
I’m wondering how they dialled home? Coz if they manual dial from within the crater, the kawoosh kills them. If they dial outside, they can’t enter through the back. How was it done in the episode?
Is there a reason they can't enter through the back? I know they can't go through a wormhole that is incoming but was it ever stated that you can't go through the back of an outgoing wormhole?
@@Blasted2Oblivion it’s never stated outright, but in one of the canon books Master Bra’tak tells a story of a Jaffa who entered through the back of a Stargate. When asked what happened he said something like ‘it was not pleasant’
Depends by what you mean with opposite side, if you mean the back of either gate you will just move through the wormhole and be ripped apart in the process since matter does not keep a coherent form when traveling through the wormhole (thus the whole song and dance with the calling gate converting you into an energy signal and the receiving gate reconstructing you) If you walk through the active part of the dialled gate, the gate will try to reconstruct you, fail (since there is no proper signal to reconstruct) and you'll die as well
you probably just die or maybe you just end up reconstituted on the other side? There isn't much in the way of explaining what happens on the other side, but theres usually kind of like a "buffer" zone between actually getting sent through the wormhole and going into the gate. For example, many times people can stick their hands or head through the gate and back out again and they dont get sent through. Perhaps if they entered through the opposite side they'd just end up in the buffer zone and could walk out the other side? I'm not sure though.
Would have been great if the Jaffa warriors were just standing around the ring and shot them all dead because they saw the gate activate the first time and leave the malp behind.
I get why everyone gives your boy stink eye for doubting there are survivors, its their friend and just not something you say out loud, but I feel for him, he ain't wrong, the chance of surviving that is pretty frackin slim 🤷🏻♂️
"The gate dug out a perfect foxhole." Not perfect for dialing out, since, you know... if you're still in it when the dialing sequence completes, you'll get erased from existence. That seems like a bit of a flaw.
doesnt matter, your dying every time you go through a gate. Same as star trek in a transporter. your matter gets reassembled into a new clone and memories, electrical imprints, are reassembled back onto new neurons. Your basically getting ripped apart.
iris is designed to be just few microns from the event horizon, unlike when stargate lays just on the ground. and burying gate means like complete blockage with soil and rocks
The gate only becomes "blocked" if the interior rim of the gate is blocked by enough material to prevent the wormhole from establishing, such as being fully buried underground or half-buried in a rock slide like in Stargate Universe. Samantha Carter explains this in season 3/4 in various conversations where she explains there is a threshold of material debris that must be present before a gate becomes inoperative. This is then depicted on screen several times by gates burning trees and other material that was within or too close to the gate but not enough material to disable it. Also, there are on screen instances when even being underground was not enough to stop it, Teal'c goes through a wormhole and ends up underground in a cavern having to dig himself to the surface on a mission to rescue Colonel Oneal.
@@InfernosReaper but even when iris is closed, wormhole can establish, in S05E14 ( ,,48 hours,,) iris had to be moved slightly so it could be on that specific place to stop actual creation of event horizont
1 problem with this episode if a anubus drone was on the planet opening a gate to earth would be the bad idea.. If you dont have a weapon to defeat it, whats to stop it from coming through and destroying your base? You know you can defeat it you would blow up the base thus anubus would win.
Think i typed this around 4 in the morning. My thought process was the drones on this planet they dont have the weapon yet, and thier opening the gate repeatedly to this world no reason the drone would not of had an easy way to enter the base. That and he knows the address to earth / location + cloaking ships im surprised he didnt send a cloaked ship Or more to earth with drones.. They didnt have the weapon yet.
@@thehandoftheking3314 Given that they needed a ladder to get out, it may have just been a perspective thing. Or it could have been easier for production to dig a shallow hole. Either way, yes. It should be deeper than it appears to be.
@@robertkalinic335 They received the signal then deactivated the Stargate while they prepared their troops for deployment. Then they activated the Stargate again to send the troops, with the resulting unstable vortex disintegrating the drone in the process.
Jack isn't at his best here. In order to dial out, they'd need to get the gate upright or flip it over entirely. As I recall, it took an entire team of laborers with ropes and pulleys to flip the gate up in the original film. I hope they brought some sturdy frames, plenty of big pulleys rated for 32+ tons, a fuck-ton of rope, and a good winch or two.
@@Ragitsu True. I assumed they were bringing one, which is why I didn't list it. But as useful as those generators are, they don't have built in anti-grav projectors, tractor beams, or anything else that'd get the gate upright without my list of tools.
@@Ragitsu Maybe, but he still didn't mention it. Assumptions are dangerous. I believe the military has a saying: "Proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance."
Off-site bases in SG1 after season 4 all have naquadah based generators go into overload as the self-destruct device, so no radiation. This is addressed directly in the show.
@@blankspace178 "This is addressed directly in the show." Where? I can't find any source for that. I can find a source that says that SG1's naquadah generators use lead shielding in the outer case for a reason: The naquadah reactor cores are radioactive. So even if the explosion isn't thermonuclear it would still scatter a lot of radioactive residue over a large area, kind of alike Chernobyl.
the series was produced for TV when HD didn't exist commonly, so obviously they cant make a higher def thing without using an AI or something which is expensive.
@@heliothrax7716 The original film for Seasons 1 through 7 _is_ High-Definition compatible. However, the *CGI* itself is in Standard-Definition. Either the CGI will have to be reproduced by modern CGI artists so that it matches HD resolutions *or* it will somehow have to be perfectly updated by modern computer software doing most of the heavy lifting.
S02E03 Prisoners SG1 due to inadvertently assisting a criminal end up on a prison planet. Food is sent through the Stargate. When the food is sent through some of the less intelligent prisoners decide to stand in the bulge of the incoming wormhole in the hopes it would take them back through the wormhole. Samatha Carter explains that matter can only travel one way through a wormhole and that the men were dying instantly when the bulging wormhole hit them. Now one thing to note is solid matter can only go one direction. Clearly non solid electronic signals used by the SG teams and data fed to SG command is the exception. Why is that.... because television likely. I forgot if the movie had the same idea about it or not.
@@theextremegulp That I knew already I mean I opened the gate I run through but ur running to the gate and just jump from ur direction and not go in the direction I did we are the establishing gate bot go in gate opposite sides
I think I get what you mean like eg. if SGC dialled somewhere and then entered the gate by going around it and entering from not-kawoosh side... I found this on reddit:
I always thought the gate would’ve made more sense to be useable from both, front and back. Just that you would get pushed out the respective other side at your destination gate. Especially since we know the „water“ in the gate works like a scanner/disassembler, why should the direction of input matter? We actually never see the real wormhole when it’s activated and the people even get „saved“ as data Incase the gate crashes or malfunctions.
I’ve always been fascinated by how many alien worlds look like Vancouver. It’s truly the ‘Tastes like chicken’ of exterior location.
Better than SoCal at least, hills around LA to be specific
Huh?
@@Ragitsu Most of Stargate was filmed in BC near Vancouver. Lots of other shows to.
@@travcollier I was confused over the "Better than SoCal" part.
@@Ragitsu Oh, just complaining about the rediculous number of shows that use a few locations around LA as alien planets. Used to live there, so a bit of dressing and maybe shifting the color grading really doesn't hide it for me.
BC is prettier anyway
This is why I love Stargate...they brought a ladder!
It's actually an Ascension Device made by the Ancients.
Miss this show.
Yeah me too. Among the very last of quality tv. Those who called stargate “poor man’s Star Trek” have no idea what they’re talking about. It’s completely different.
@@HowDidIGet3700Subs Star Trek was amazing (at its peak, anyway), but I always preferred shows that followed a serial format, rather than an episodic format, so Stargate was certainly superior in that regard.
@@PistonAvatarGuy like I said I disagree with you types. I love Star Trek & I love stargate. They’re both totally different types of show. One is set in space in future, one is set on earth in present. Totally different.
@@HowDidIGet3700Subs I was agreeing with you, actually. I love both shows as well, but for different reasons.
@@PistonAvatarGuy Seasons 1-5 are fairly episodic compared to Seasons 6-10.
"We split up"" means, the other group will die.
They had red t-shirts under their uniforms..
Pretty sure they actually survived
Government: "Why are we spending 3.2 billion on these mal..Malps? What are you guys doing that requires so many?"
Gen Hammond: "All Terrain Long Distance Bomb Defusal"
"Well, clearly they aren't working..."
@@CT-4274 yeah, it should be 'bomb disposal' instead
MALP was distentegrated in the unstable vortex of the wormhole. Though it seems like SG-1 went through the same wormhole as the MALP, they would have needed time to gear up and plan their operation before going through, meaning they activated the stargate a second time, thereby disintegrating the MALP.
So they had no eyes on the other side when they went through, meaning rather than being the perfect foxhole, that could have been a horrific ambush site had just 3 jaffa been stood at the top of the pit. Jacks argument should not have convinced Hammond.
@@Slavir_Nabru Alpha Site was hidden, both by being a world the Goa'uld did not know of and by requiring the transplantation of a stargate and thereby requiring a new address. The most likely reason for the Goa'uld to attack is to seize or destroy any prototypes or information regarding the disruptor, items most likely carried off by survivors after the self-destruct. Therefore, surviving Goa'uld would be tasked with finding the Alpha site survivors that fled into the trees and, with the stargate upside down, it is unlikely the survivors would be able to use it, so there is little reason to guard it. Jack's plan is dangerous, but reasonable.
@@atolokes yeah i never felt like going in was the most unreasonable plan as its unlikely there would be an ambush as like you point out for all those reasons.
@@atolokes other than if its on its side, how would they manually dial it to leave without being in the way of the "flush", that part of Jacks plan is abit flawed
@@AdmiralJT They only need to establish a connection to radio the All-Clear, then the SGC can send lift gear through to right the stargate for them to gate through.
While watching this I got to thinking. If stargate was filmed in the current, the use of drones would be substantial.
The exploration conducted by an SG team would most certainly be different.
the team would probably be called stargate drone 1
You are unfortunately right... even tho they used UAVs, that usage was limited and even outdated to what actual military had (in series they used only those slingshot launched spotting drones).
If it was made are any modern tv series we would have swarms of mini quadrocopters on every mission.
@@cola98765 nah, they'd have a couple sure, but you'd still need to send teams through, along with some sort of mule bot (the MALP can do that admittedly), and in the series, they always send a MALP through first to unknown destinations, if the MALP ends up getting blasted, floating off into space, or picked up... it's probably not a good idea to send people through
SGU kinda did that. Probably what we would see more of.
I love the production value of mid-series Stargate, the "hole" is only 2 feet deep and the ladder is only 4 rungs, they keep changing the camera angle to make it seem much deeper but the actors could barely lay down in it without hitting the gate. Just one more notch on the list of things us fans will overlook but still laugh at :)
Definitely noticed that. You'd think the hole would be as deep as the flush when the gate activates, but it''s clearly pretty short. Also... where's the MALP? It's arguably excusable, but only if you say they redialed, and hence, vaporized the MALP.
@@ocdtrekkie They did have to redial, several times to bring more personnel in. The hole only fits a couple people so they had to dial in, disconnect, climb out, and repeat.
I think that's a sign that the director and production folks knew what they were doing. Cheap out as much as you can without killing the viewer's suspension of disbelief.
...aand you ruined the scene for me :)
As a hole is formed, dirt would have fallen in to fill it,
I feel like an idiot. I've always wondered what happened to the MALP. I didn't realize it would have been destroyed when they dialed in to send SG-1
We've all been there before.
An easy mistake to make.
God I miss this show! Best SciFi series there is 😭
"perfect foxhole"
Yes unless an enemy with a grenade is there.
It’ll be fine, sir. The gate dug the perfect foxhole.
The gate would be the perfect garbage disposal for a landfill. An incoming wormhole would vaporize anything dumped into it.
I was disappointed there were no actual foxes.
The hole should be a lot deeper and steeper than we see here.
I think it was only a weird perspective, considering they needed a ladder to get out.
where's the MALP?
@@insertcognomen the Ka-Whoosh vaporized it.
You are correct. It appears to be a strange continuity issue between the overhead shot and the ground level shot. I believe there was an episode (S03E17 A Hundred Days) where the gate was covered by some sort of superheated rock caused by being struck by a meteor leaving Jack stranded on the planet. Teal'c had to get break through before his oxygen ran out and he was in the area the bubble created as the gate was buried horizontally and was much larger than this.
@@theextremegulp Correct. The difference here however is that gate was placed on gravel (MALP showed it), and while hole seems a bit small because of direct overhead shot, it explains why the hole is not as steep and why it's as wide as the gate.
Back in the day before Earth had a fleet of starships that could take them anywhere in the galaxy without the need for a Stargate…..
4:00 Didn't notice it when originally watching but if the trees were knocked down in a blast...they snapped off sheer. Look to the left of Teal'c's arm. Blast acted like a chainsaw :P
I swear I always remember the shot of two soldiers walking used often, one holding their rifle behind their back. Small things I can't help but notice.
Someone should compile all of the stock footage used in _Stargate SG-1_ and release it in a "mega-clip".
@@Ragitsu i like that SG self references and can make fun of themselves especially in the puppet episode.
The DVD commentary from Deluise about the guy holding the rifle up his butt is pretty funny.
This is one of those alien planets that look like a gravel pit outside of Vancouver instead of a forest outside of Vancouver...or Vancouver.
Vancouver is the ultimate Alien planet, change my mind
Vancouver _is_ Stargate City, after all, @@honzasenbauer612.
@@honzasenbauer612 It is the science fiction version of New Zealand.
This was so great!
"the gate dug the perfect foxhole"
Yeah now how you gonna dial while it's upside down? You gonna lay underneath?!
Production crew must have had fun digging that hole...
It would be way cooler if the gate fell over the on its back and the team would have to jump through perfectly coordinated along with SGC turning the gate off the moment they are fully through.
Or they'd lose legs.
Or die.
:3
Ha ha. Imagine a super-springy trampoline back on the ramp at Stargate Command. How about a circus cannon fired by Siler?
@@Ragitsu I imagined it and with the cannon it would just be so freaking stupid xDD.
Should've done that on the first of April...
There was an episode where the 2nd gate was on its back, but they only had an outgoing wormhole (that we know of at least...)
@@ziiofswe Aww, such potential wasted...
Teal'c did this in one episode
The fact SG-3 arrived before SG-1 righted the gate means SG-1 couldn’t have dialed out to let the SGC know it was safe to dial in.
So the SGC dialed the gate not knowing if SG-1 was still in the hole, trapped by enemy fire.
Imagine if the gate made a hole so deep they could not get out of it. They would have to sit in that hole and hope nobody dials in and Sam manages to survive and help them out.
Reynolds was a good soldier, knew how to be part of a unit, but he had helluva lot to learn about being part of a team.
A Kino would’ve come in handy
Tealc is missing his head emblem at 4:03
Well spotted - it certainly appears that way. Although when the unbroken shot pans down and back up, the emblem is there. I think it's down to video compression.
The General goes with the split second plan, from a Crazy Colonel, an Archaeologist and an Extra Terrestrial Dam! Hammond was GOOD!
They've got the experience.
Fast-talking Daniel reminds me why I watch the DVDs with the subtitles on! :-)
Fortunately the scripts are online to make up for youtube's subtitles.
I think i would have sent a nice matress through the gate first in hopes of a softer landing.
Had to look up the definition on google for "extream cuation" - uncountable careful thought and lack of hurry in order to try to avoid risks or danger. with caution: He was instructed to act with extreme caution.
Did they dial in a second time, thus the MALP was eaten up by the vortex or why is there no MALP at 2:05?
I know they explained it at some point but I always felt the gate burst was a little inconsistent.
Was anyone thinking the writers (O'neil's) logic was flawed here? "The perfect foxhole" wouldn't really help considering they would be under the gate when it established connection vaporizing them if the hole is the same size as the ejection. Not to mention the ladder was still intact when the other team arrived O.o
Mayne it was a new ladder
@@NitpickingNerd They could just have taken the ladder out and replaced it. The *real* question is what happens if you taken a ladder that is longer than the hole behind the gate, because the gate sends matter in single chunks, so the ladder exiting would extend into the ground.
My favourite part of Stargate lore is honestly that it makes _just enough_ sense to endlessly speculate on how it _really_ works. Its pretty unique in that for me.
A better question than the MALP thing: how are they going to go back? Manual dialing is one thing, but the gate is far too heavy for them to just flip it over without industrial equipment and unless you suddenly grow leg muscles powerful enough to jump several meters high vertically, you physically can't enter the face-down event horizon without the gravity pulling you back out before you're fully inside.
Dig under the ring like a tunnel. Once the gate is open, crawl in and jump.
Or, wait for Hammond to check in and request he send through a hydraulic press, a telescoping armature, and a winch. They can run the equipment off of the naquada generator they brought with them. But first things first. Secure the perimeter, find survivors....
Um, guys? Somebody want to pull the ladder up out of the hole?
## Kerwhoosh! ##
Sigh. We lose more ladders that way.
Step 1: Dig a tunnel beside the gate large enough for everyone to crawl through into the hole that the ka-woosh excavated.
Step 2: Make sure nobody is in the hole!
Step 3: Dial the gate.
Step 4: Wait for the ka-woosh to end.
Step 5: Insert a ladder into the tunnel.
Step 6: Crawl through the tunnel (repeat this step for each team member going through the gate)
Step 7: Put the ladder up into the gate with the feet of the ladder on the ground.
Step 8: Everyone climb up the ladder into the gate; everyone will go through the gate head-first with their feet towards the ground of the departure planet.
Step 9: Exit the gate at the SGC; everyone will come out head-first, face down so make sure everyone is prepared to fall on their face.
Step 10: Pick yourself up off the ramp (some ramp-face may occur).
Step 11: Debrief.
Questions?
@@g00gleminus96 Step 7.5: Call ahead to Hammond and ask him to station two large, husky Marines at the top of the ramp to help people dismount the ladder.
@@g00gleminus96 To be honest, after the energy cost of a gateopening went down, i would have taken the gate and started the Gate tunneling company. Like think about it one kerwosh and its like 5 meters of tunnel no matter how hard the rock.
Good thing there wasn't debris behind the gate blocking them from getting out, otherwise it would have been very unpleasant
So, here they materialised under the stargate and fell down - but what would happen if someone materialises above the event horizon and falls back into the stargate?
Disintegration.
Disintegrated unless the gate shut off the moment they were through. You can't go backwards through an active gate. It's a one-way gate.
@@g00gleminus96 Thanks, I suspected as much but wasn't sure.
@@g00gleminus96 well, not without help like the Tollan got from the Nox.
@BrokenCurtain We see exactly this in the episode "A Hundred Days" (season 3). The gate is lying on its back and the MALP comes through with just enough momentum to exit the gate, before falling back to its destruction.
I’m wondering how they dialled home? Coz if they manual dial from within the crater, the kawoosh kills them. If they dial outside, they can’t enter through the back. How was it done in the episode?
I think they were sent a naquadah generator and some lifting equipment.
Is there a reason they can't enter through the back? I know they can't go through a wormhole that is incoming but was it ever stated that you can't go through the back of an outgoing wormhole?
@@Blasted2Oblivion it’s never stated outright, but in one of the canon books Master Bra’tak tells a story of a Jaffa who entered through the back of a Stargate. When asked what happened he said something like ‘it was not pleasant’
@@Gatetraveller1 Good old Bra'tak with his vague words of wisdom.
Always wondered if you could pass the backside of the event horizon. It always appears translucent.
It probably vaporizes you if you try . Thats why no one ever did it
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Do you remember which episodes?
In one episode Teal'c said he knew a Jaffa that tried it and his death was "most unpleasant".
I always wondered what would happen if u ran through an open gate on the opposite side
I think one of the books has Bra'tac say he saw someone do that at one point and "his death was most unpleasant."
Depends by what you mean with opposite side, if you mean the back of either gate you will just move through the wormhole and be ripped apart in the process since matter does not keep a coherent form when traveling through the wormhole (thus the whole song and dance with the calling gate converting you into an energy signal and the receiving gate reconstructing you)
If you walk through the active part of the dialled gate, the gate will try to reconstruct you, fail (since there is no proper signal to reconstruct) and you'll die as well
you probably just die or maybe you just end up reconstituted on the other side? There isn't much in the way of explaining what happens on the other side, but theres usually kind of like a "buffer" zone between actually getting sent through the wormhole and going into the gate. For example, many times people can stick their hands or head through the gate and back out again and they dont get sent through. Perhaps if they entered through the opposite side they'd just end up in the buffer zone and could walk out the other side? I'm not sure though.
SGU and SGA should have been given more money..
Would have been great if the Jaffa warriors were just standing around the ring and shot them all dead because they saw the gate activate the first time and leave the malp behind.
I get why everyone gives your boy stink eye for doubting there are survivors, its their friend and just not something you say out loud, but I feel for him, he ain't wrong, the chance of surviving that is pretty frackin slim 🤷🏻♂️
"The gate dug out a perfect foxhole."
Not perfect for dialing out, since, you know... if you're still in it when the dialing sequence completes, you'll get erased from existence. That seems like a bit of a flaw.
You can enter from the back
@@Dumb-Comment Just because I wrote "fox hole" doesn't mean you have to make it sexual.
Also, that's beside the point. And wrong.
@@Dumb-Comment Are you serious?!! No, you can't enter from the back! 🤦♂
doesnt matter, your dying every time you go through a gate. Same as star trek in a transporter. your matter gets reassembled into a new clone and memories, electrical imprints, are reassembled back onto new neurons. Your basically getting ripped apart.
Shouldn’t the ground have blocked the event horizon same as the iris? Isn’t that why they bury gates on worlds where they rebel?
iris is designed to be just few microns from the event horizon, unlike when stargate lays just on the ground. and burying gate means like complete blockage with soil and rocks
The gate only becomes "blocked" if the interior rim of the gate is blocked by enough material to prevent the wormhole from establishing, such as being fully buried underground or half-buried in a rock slide like in Stargate Universe. Samantha Carter explains this in season 3/4 in various conversations where she explains there is a threshold of material debris that must be present before a gate becomes inoperative. This is then depicted on screen several times by gates burning trees and other material that was within or too close to the gate but not enough material to disable it.
Also, there are on screen instances when even being underground was not enough to stop it, Teal'c goes through a wormhole and ends up underground in a cavern having to dig himself to the surface on a mission to rescue Colonel Oneal.
The Iris closes *after* the wormhole is connected and if there's something in the space completely, it clearly does not work.
@@InfernosReaper but even when iris is closed, wormhole can establish, in S05E14 ( ,,48 hours,,) iris had to be moved slightly so it could be on that specific place to stop actual creation of event horizont
1 problem with this episode if a anubus drone was on the planet opening a gate to earth would be the bad idea.. If you dont have a weapon to defeat it, whats to stop it from coming through and destroying your base? You know you can defeat it you would blow up the base thus anubus would win.
WTF are you talking about?!
Think i typed this around 4 in the morning.
My thought process was the drones on this planet they dont have the weapon yet, and thier opening the gate repeatedly to this world no reason the drone would not of had an easy way to enter the base.
That and he knows the address to earth / location + cloaking ships im surprised he didnt send a cloaked ship Or more to earth with drones.. They didnt have the weapon yet.
What happened to the malp?
It was disintegrated.
The kawoosh (I love that word) would have hit it when the gate was dialed again for SG1 to go through.
@@Blasted2Oblivion then wouldn't the hole/crater be bigger?
@@thehandoftheking3314 Given that they needed a ladder to get out, it may have just been a perspective thing. Or it could have been easier for production to dig a shallow hole. Either way, yes. It should be deeper than it appears to be.
Forestry clear cut as a film location! Why not.
I think it is more likely that the show's producer(s) found a location already cleared of trees.
@@Ragitsu I think you are correct.
@@lafarms Quite a few episodes were filmed in quarries, by the way.
@@Ragitsu I would absolutely love to go to an actual alien planet and discover that it actually looks like Vancouver.
@@Blasted2Oblivion *scream of horror*
wheres the MALP?
It was destroyed when the second worm hole formed when sg1 dialed in as well.
Best possible explaination
@@drrohanjacob5343 Or... they pulled it out? Where is the problem with that?
@@robertkalinic335 You can not "pull out". A stargate wormhole is always a one-way-road.
@@dermozart80 Then how are they able to receive signal from the probe?
@@robertkalinic335 They received the signal then deactivated the Stargate while they prepared their troops for deployment. Then they activated the Stargate again to send the troops, with the resulting unstable vortex disintegrating the drone in the process.
Jack isn't at his best here. In order to dial out, they'd need to get the gate upright or flip it over entirely. As I recall, it took an entire team of laborers with ropes and pulleys to flip the gate up in the original film. I hope they brought some sturdy frames, plenty of big pulleys rated for 32+ tons, a fuck-ton of rope, and a good winch or two.
With a single naquadah generator, they can power all the equipment they need.
@@Ragitsu True. I assumed they were bringing one, which is why I didn't list it. But as useful as those generators are, they don't have built in anti-grav projectors, tractor beams, or anything else that'd get the gate upright without my list of tools.
@@imofage3947 It would be trivial to have Stargate Command send those tools in x hour intervals (to prevent unintended disintegrations), yes?
@@Ragitsu Maybe, but he still didn't mention it. Assumptions are dangerous. I believe the military has a saying: "Proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance."
no malp.....
Disintegrated.
@@Ragitsu so they reopened the gate after being told they have a go
@2:07 where's the MALP?!
MALP would have been destroyed with the 2nd gate activation. Just like the event horizon dug the hole in the first place.
@@trickelders ahhh! Good point!
@@kirishima638 Those things aren't cheap.
@@Ragitsu It's government money. Which means they will just get more from the suckers . . . , er "taxpayers".
@@Bigrignohio Government officials complaining about all the Stargate spending happen fairly often in that show.
Um, wouldn't the self-destruct have been a nuke? Wouldn't that have left a fuckton of radiation behind?
Perhaps it was the most powerful *non-nuclear* explosive they had?
Off-site bases in SG1 after season 4 all have naquadah based generators go into overload as the self-destruct device, so no radiation. This is addressed directly in the show.
@@blankspace178 "This is addressed directly in the show." Where? I can't find any source for that. I can find a source that says that SG1's naquadah generators use lead shielding in the outer case for a reason: The naquadah reactor cores are radioactive. So even if the explosion isn't thermonuclear it would still scatter a lot of radioactive residue over a large area, kind of alike Chernobyl.
How can you upload this in 480p? This is 2021 not 2005...
Does it really matter?
Too many crybabies complaining about 4k this, 1million FPS that.
The series was not produced in HD. There is no higher-res version; it's straight off of the DVD.
the series was produced for TV when HD didn't exist commonly, so obviously they cant make a higher def thing without using an AI or something which is expensive.
@@heliothrax7716 The original film for Seasons 1 through 7 _is_ High-Definition compatible. However, the *CGI* itself is in Standard-Definition. Either the CGI will have to be reproduced by modern CGI artists so that it matches HD resolutions *or* it will somehow have to be perfectly updated by modern computer software doing most of the heavy lifting.
I always wondered what would happen if u ran through an open gate on the opposite side
S02E03 Prisoners SG1 due to inadvertently assisting a criminal end up on a prison planet. Food is sent through the Stargate. When the food is sent through some of the less intelligent prisoners decide to stand in the bulge of the incoming wormhole in the hopes it would take them back through the wormhole. Samatha Carter explains that matter can only travel one way through a wormhole and that the men were dying instantly when the bulging wormhole hit them.
Now one thing to note is solid matter can only go one direction. Clearly non solid electronic signals used by the SG teams and data fed to SG command is the exception. Why is that.... because television likely. I forgot if the movie had the same idea about it or not.
@@theextremegulp That I knew already I mean I opened the gate I run through but ur running to the gate and just jump from ur direction and not go in the direction I did we are the establishing gate bot go in gate opposite sides
I think I get what you mean like eg. if SGC dialled somewhere and then entered the gate by going around it and entering from not-kawoosh side... I found this on reddit:
I always thought the gate would’ve made more sense to be useable from both, front and back. Just that you would get pushed out the respective other side at your destination gate. Especially since we know the „water“ in the gate works like a scanner/disassembler, why should the direction of input matter? We actually never see the real wormhole when it’s activated and the people even get „saved“ as data Incase the gate crashes or malfunctions.