I sold my Jimny for that reason in 2020. now I got a new one. just saw the video and was almost upset. but anyways, thanks guys nice informative video.
Hey mate, I can see you’ve put a lot of effort into your video, but from my person experience, this issue can be fixed without resetting steering angle sensor. After having the same problems with tyre shops I decided to investigate myself, this issue is solved by keeping the driving wheels straight while adjusting the drag rod. This pushes the steering arm to the correct position to centre the steering wheel rather than pushing the driving wheels left or right. This can be tested by turning full lock to lock and counting the amount of turns left from centre and right from centre. 2 full rotations must be achieved in each direction. If it doesn’t, then your steering is not centred.
This is very useful....faced issues (and I know of others facing this too) in India with the 5 door...except that the Pull is towards the other/Left side....video saved and shared with some others who faced/are facing this issue....Thanks there !
Me as well I make three wheel alignment. Same problem to the dealership rest angle sensor nothing change . I even release steering bolt from under the wheel and try to adjused nothing works . This is logic to trick the sensor. Thanks .
@@fooshadventureI honestly been to Suzuki and ask them to do the opposite like you show . Then the car start to pull to the right when I drive street! Then the steering aligned to the right as well.
It is a very unique issue with different causes, there are a few solutions to try, you will find this post interesting. des-sol.co.za/addressing-steering-wheel-tilt-in-your-lifted-jimny/
Hey, thanks for this! I installed a 40mm lift kit and I’m getting the same issue. I’ve been advised by the kit supplier / manufacturer that I just need to adjust the “steering rod” under neath the front of the car. When I do this, I can get the steering wheel alignment ok but the car pulls. When I put it back, the steering wheel is off but the car drives straight. Is this likely the fix?
If the wheel alignment is correct and if you hold the steering wheel level and drive the car needs to drive straight but if you let go of the steering wheel on a level area and it rotates to the right, then it's the same as our problem. This recently posted guide could also help. des-sol.co.za/addressing-steering-wheel-tilt-in-your-lifted-jimny/
I think it might help if you upload the numbers associated with your latest wheel alignment… I.e was the thrust angle off for the back wheel? What was the caster on both wheels like? What were the toe values? What was the camber?Is your kingpin bearings shot? Did you check for tyre wear ect to see if there was any specific type of wear happening?… I have had the same issue, except mine was driving straight when the steering wheel was pulled left ( to counter the pull to the right ). I found on mine that the 2” lift changed the distance between my pitman arm to my steering wheel (left), so adjustment of the steering arm length was required… also note that as your spring ‘settle’ over time, more small adjustments may be required over time. I’m glad you were able to find a solution to your problem and thank you for sharing!! Nothing worse then your jimny driving off centre… cheers!
Thanks very much for the constructive comment and suggestions. I will dig out the photo of the last wheel alignment. I am glad you got your Jimny sorted.
Yes, and I double checked. Steering wheel was locked in level position and wheel alignment was done. They used the Hunter machine and it seems to have a very good alignment procedure.
@@fooshadventure Hopefully the SAS reset doesn't cause any other issues down the road. here is a video that you might find interesting. ruclips.net/video/iptsYEBrkto/видео.html
Thanks very much for the video. We looked at Martins video before. Unfortunately his advise did not work at all. As soon as you make these adjustments, the steering wheel just simply popped back to plus minus 5 to 6 degrees to the right. And it just made the straight-line worse.
hi, i've aquired a used 2022 Jinmy, the car goes perfectly straight, but the previous owner said that it always had a slightly crooked steering wheel with straight wheels, no pull to the right or left. Yesterday i've tried to adjust the steering wheel with the related bar. once the steering wheel was straightened, the car tended to constantly push to one side while driving could the car have left the factory with this problem? now i've re-adjusted the bar to the old configuration (steering wheel turned) and the car is no pushing anymore. (I had to do a bit of iteration before finding the exact old memorized angle)
Hey Mate, thanks for the video. Had this exact issue and took it to a local mechanic, who went around in circles with aligning and adjusting and suggested it was a faulty sensor. Showed them this, they tried it, and now it drives perfect, but the ABS, tc, and steering wheel lights are all on and they're now playing whack a mole with it. Where would you go from here?
Hi Ant. Thanks for the compliment. The lights would normally pop up if the steering is out by more than 7 or 8 degrees. I would suggest leveling the steering wheel and set the angle sensor back to "incorrect" setting. Then make sure the wheel alignment is spot on. The Hunter wheel alignment machines seem to get the wheel alignment right. Also have them set the steering rod and get the geometry as spot on as possible. Once the steering angle is out by about 5 degrees, have them zero the steering angle sensor to the left, again ( by the -5 degrees)
Hello 👋 , thanks for this informative video. Just a question, though: When you were having this off-center steering issue, did the traction control light and/or ESP warning comes on in your control module? I think I've got the same issue as this, they did wheel/steering alignment, but it was still a little off and the warning lights are still on and my local dealership technician says that it was the clock spring that needs to be replaced.
Hi, no it didn't, apparently if out more than about 8 degrees then can cause the lights to come on. You might find this post interesting too, des-sol.co.za/addressing-steering-wheel-tilt-in-your-lifted-jimny/
Hi I’m having the same issue iv lifted my jimmy with the black raptor 75mm lift kit and I keep getting the same issue get the traction light and then the throttle response dies. Did you sort your problem?
hello, @fooshadventure I have the same problem but I'm not sure that the issue is with angle sensor? It's behaving like that even if I turned of the engine, and just went down on the road
Hi, just make sure your alignment is 100% correct first and, sometimes adjustment to the draglink also works, but if it is a persistent electrical correcting issue then steering sensor can be reset.
Hi, Did you change the front and rear lateral rods? If lifting the vehicle these rods need to be altered, the easiest is to fit adjustable rods otherwise the front and rear diffs are dragged sideways to the right.
Hi Eric. Thanks for the comment. With the 40mm lift the angle changes in the rods are minimal. However, the Old Man Emu set we installed, does come with a rear panhard rod adjuster bracket. The Jimny Geometry is very simple, since you can really only adjust toe in and toe out. We have seen and heard of issues like this on even stock Jimnys. The issue is purely electrical and relates to the electrical power sterring even though it is hard to believe and even convince Suzuki but we have proved it in our case. We have not had any issues since our re-calibration.
Unfortunately we have only found that the dealer could reset the SAS. The Autel device we bought says it can, but it was unable to access the ECM. I am not sure which other devices could reset. The Supaquick in Brackenvell (Cape Town) was able to, but I am not sure what device they had.
Hi Chronicle, apologies for only replying now. We did not want to mess with the electronics, since, I believe the steering angle sensor "talks" to the ESC system.
i need to fix that to... i dont find anybody with a good scanner to reset the angle sensor... can i do alignment but with the steering wheel 7 degres on the left ??
Hi guys! I finnaly do the job at the import dealer in Colombia, it worked… BUT the issue Came back few days ago!!! what do u think about that??? What happen if i turn not only the steering wheel but the steering colomn ?
We haven't had a need to redo ours, even after changing suspension, the fact that yours has gone out again could still be a geometry/alignment issue, there should be no need to change the steering column.
Hi there. We found the same. I believe the Snapon diagnostic tools might be able to do the reset, but they were too expensive. The Hunter wheel alignment machines should also have updates for thier diagnostics SAS reset. The more affordable tools, we found almost all, use the same database and they were unable to do the SAS reset. The dealership route, using thier dedicated PC was our only option. I hope you are able to find a suitable solution. Please let us know.
Hey mate, I can see you’ve put a lot of effort into your video, but from my person experience, this issue can be fixed without resetting steering angle sensor. After having the same problems with tyre shops I decided to investigate myself, this issue is solved by keeping the driving wheels straight while adjusting the drag rod. This pushes the steering arm to the correct position to centre the steering wheel rather than pushing the driving wheels left or right. This can be tested by turning full lock to lock and counting the amount of turns left from centre and right from centre. 2 full rotations must be achieved in each direction. If it doesn’t, then your steering is not centred.
Hi thank you for this. but just to clarify, if you kept the driving wheels straight then adjusted the draglink, the steering wheel will move right? then it will affect the steering sensor and will move the wheels to compensate, thus will drag your vehicle to one side when driving
@@DAWGstyle you have to reset a couple of times. Point the driving wheels straight by eye, turn the drag rod, check the driving wheels are straight, readjust the drag bar. I have personally had the steering wheel travel through a 180° with the driving wheels dead straight..
Hi Luis. When you hold the steering wheel level/straight, the Jimny drives straight, as soon as you let go, the steering wheel moved over to the right. It was almost as if something was pulling the steering wheel to the right. The Jimny then starts tracking right. Hope this helps?
@@fooshadventure thanks! im just gathering info as a jimny owner and wheel aligner so i can help others aswell! Something like what you discribed happen to me on a slight degree but then out of nowhere in couple of days it was gone and it has tracked perfect ever since! I did find it a bit weird specially because the electric assist on the Jimnys does not steers the car like in other more complex/intrusive lane assist systems. Thanks again!
I think the Jimny has remnants of the lane keep assist, for models that dont have the feature, so the power steering tries to keep the steering wheel straight, but after changing the ride height, the Jimny thinks it is straight, but it is not.
@@fooshadventure I’d love to see a video of it not doing it. I cannot not fix it unless you’ve either taken the steering wheel off and moved it on the collumn.
Hi. You would need to find a device that can reset the steering angle sensor or you would need to take it to your nearest Suzuki dealership so they can connect one of thier laptop to the Jimny's OBD2 port.
This can be tested by turning full lock to lock and counting the amount of turns left from centre and right from centre. 2 full rotations must be achieved in each direction. If it doesn’t, then your steering is not centred.
@@fooshadventurehi I have just come across your video. I require some help if possible I have fitted the black raptor 75mm / 3” lift on my jimny 2023 (73) plate. Mine is left hand down rather than to the right. Would this still be the same procedure but reset the steering sensor to the right instead of left. I’m in the uk vehicle is a right hand drive. I keep getting traction control light and cuts the throttle out and messing with and etc. Hope you can help Thanks Dan
@danielhobbs574 it could be geometry related, best would be to take it to a suspension specialist to check thoroughly, assuming you have castor correction bushes (installed correctly) ,extended panhard rods etc.
Hey mate, I can see you’ve put a lot of effort into your video, but from my person experience, this issue can be fixed without resetting steering angle sensor. After having the same problems with tyre shops I decided to investigate myself, this issue is solved by keeping the driving wheels straight while adjusting the drag rod. This pushes the steering arm to the correct position to centre the steering wheel rather than pushing the driving wheels left or right. This can be tested by turning full lock to lock and counting the amount of turns left from centre and right from centre. 2 full rotations must be achieved in each direction. If it doesn’t, then your steering is not centred.
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I sold my Jimny for that reason in 2020. now I got a new one. just saw the video and was almost upset. but anyways, thanks guys nice informative video.
No problem Elvin. Thanks for the compliment. It is dissapointing for sure!
Hey mate, I can see you’ve put a lot of effort into your video, but from my person experience, this issue can be fixed without resetting steering angle sensor.
After having the same problems with tyre shops I decided to investigate myself, this issue is solved by keeping the driving wheels straight while adjusting the drag rod. This pushes the steering arm to the correct position to centre the steering wheel rather than pushing the driving wheels left or right.
This can be tested by turning full lock to lock and counting the amount of turns left from centre and right from centre. 2 full rotations must be achieved in each direction. If it doesn’t, then your steering is not centred.
We tried the draglink method but that does not fix the issue at all.
fantastic, thank you so much for taking the time to make this video.
Pleasure and thank you for your willingness to share info.
This is very useful....faced issues (and I know of others facing this too) in India with the 5 door...except that the Pull is towards the other/Left side....video saved and shared with some others who faced/are facing this issue....Thanks there !
Thanks for the feedback, it is a very interesting issue that arises.
My car is pulling to the right. Going to try resetting the sensor today. The Nexa guys are totally clueless.
@@aneeshlawande50how did it go ?
@wan7949 Nexa people still clueless. Pulling to one side is reduced but now my steering is no longer centre aligned
Great vid, thank you, will keep an eye out on my Gen 4!
Hopefully you won't have this issue.
@@fooshadventure indeed. Doing a 20mm lift tomorrow will see what happens
Me as well I make three wheel alignment. Same problem to the dealership rest angle sensor nothing change . I even release steering bolt from under the wheel and try to adjused nothing works . This is logic to trick the sensor. Thanks .
Hope you have managed to fix your Jimny.
@@fooshadventureI honestly been to Suzuki and ask them to do the opposite like you show . Then the car start to pull to the right when I drive street! Then the steering aligned to the right as well.
It is a very unique issue with different causes, there are a few solutions to try, you will find this post interesting. des-sol.co.za/addressing-steering-wheel-tilt-in-your-lifted-jimny/
Hey, thanks for this! I installed a 40mm lift kit and I’m getting the same issue. I’ve been advised by the kit supplier / manufacturer that I just need to adjust the “steering rod” under neath the front of the car. When I do this, I can get the steering wheel alignment ok but the car pulls. When I put it back, the steering wheel is off but the car drives straight. Is this likely the fix?
If the wheel alignment is correct and if you hold the steering wheel level and drive the car needs to drive straight but if you let go of the steering wheel on a level area and it rotates to the right, then it's the same as our problem. This recently posted guide could also help. des-sol.co.za/addressing-steering-wheel-tilt-in-your-lifted-jimny/
I think it might help if you upload the numbers associated with your latest wheel alignment… I.e was the thrust angle off for the back wheel? What was the caster on both wheels like? What were the toe values? What was the camber?Is your kingpin bearings shot? Did you check for tyre wear ect to see if there was any specific type of wear happening?…
I have had the same issue, except mine was driving straight when the steering wheel was pulled left ( to counter the pull to the right ).
I found on mine that the 2” lift changed the distance between my pitman arm to my steering wheel (left), so adjustment of the steering arm length was required… also note that as your spring ‘settle’ over time, more small adjustments may be required over time.
I’m glad you were able to find a solution to your problem and thank you for sharing!! Nothing worse then your jimny driving off centre… cheers!
Thanks very much for the constructive comment and suggestions. I will dig out the photo of the last wheel alignment. I am glad you got your Jimny sorted.
@@fooshadventure just curious, did they make sure the steering wheel was straight when they aligned the drag link?
Yes, and I double checked. Steering wheel was locked in level position and wheel alignment was done. They used the Hunter machine and it seems to have a very good alignment procedure.
@@fooshadventure
Hopefully the SAS reset doesn't cause any other issues down the road.
here is a video that you might find interesting. ruclips.net/video/iptsYEBrkto/видео.html
Thanks very much for the video. We looked at Martins video before. Unfortunately his advise did not work at all. As soon as you make these adjustments, the steering wheel just simply popped back to plus minus 5 to 6 degrees to the right. And it just made the straight-line worse.
Thanks for this. I did a Des sol upgrade and have the same issue. I'm in PE though. Is this something SUZUKI can do for me?
Hi, yes chat to Tavcor Suzuki service.
They sorted our car out.
hi, i've aquired a used 2022 Jinmy, the car goes perfectly straight, but the previous owner said that it always had a slightly crooked steering wheel with straight wheels, no pull to the right or left.
Yesterday i've tried to adjust the steering wheel with the related bar.
once the steering wheel was straightened, the car tended to constantly push to one side while driving
could the car have left the factory with this problem?
now i've re-adjusted the bar to the old configuration (steering wheel turned) and the car is no pushing anymore.
(I had to do a bit of iteration before finding the exact old memorized angle)
Hey Mate, thanks for the video. Had this exact issue and took it to a local mechanic, who went around in circles with aligning and adjusting and suggested it was a faulty sensor. Showed them this, they tried it, and now it drives perfect, but the ABS, tc, and steering wheel lights are all on and they're now playing whack a mole with it. Where would you go from here?
Hi Ant. Thanks for the compliment. The lights would normally pop up if the steering is out by more than 7 or 8 degrees. I would suggest leveling the steering wheel and set the angle sensor back to "incorrect" setting. Then make sure the wheel alignment is spot on. The Hunter wheel alignment machines seem to get the wheel alignment right. Also have them set the steering rod and get the geometry as spot on as possible. Once the steering angle is out by about 5 degrees, have them zero the steering angle sensor to the left, again ( by the -5 degrees)
Hello 👋 , thanks for this informative video. Just a question, though: When you were having this off-center steering issue, did the traction control light and/or ESP warning comes on in your control module? I think I've got the same issue as this, they did wheel/steering alignment, but it was still a little off and the warning lights are still on and my local dealership technician says that it was the clock spring that needs to be replaced.
Hi, no it didn't, apparently if out more than about 8 degrees then can cause the lights to come on. You might find this post interesting too, des-sol.co.za/addressing-steering-wheel-tilt-in-your-lifted-jimny/
Hi I’m having the same issue iv lifted my jimmy with the black raptor 75mm lift kit and I keep getting the same issue get the traction light and then the throttle response dies. Did you sort your problem?
hello, @fooshadventure I have the same problem but I'm not sure that the issue is with angle sensor? It's behaving like that even if I turned of the engine, and just went down on the road
Hi, just make sure your alignment is 100% correct first and, sometimes adjustment to the draglink also works, but if it is a persistent electrical correcting issue then steering sensor can be reset.
Hi, Did you change the front and rear lateral rods? If lifting the vehicle these rods need to be altered, the easiest is to fit adjustable rods otherwise the front and rear diffs are dragged sideways to the right.
Hi Eric. Thanks for the comment. With the 40mm lift the angle changes in the rods are minimal. However, the Old Man Emu set we installed, does come with a rear panhard rod adjuster bracket. The Jimny Geometry is very simple, since you can really only adjust toe in and toe out. We have seen and heard of issues like this on even stock Jimnys. The issue is purely electrical and relates to the electrical power sterring even though it is hard to believe and even convince Suzuki but we have proved it in our case. We have not had any issues since our re-calibration.
do you know what type of diagnostic tool can reset the SAS of the gen4 Jimny?
Unfortunately we have only found that the dealer could reset the SAS. The Autel device we bought says it can, but it was unable to access the ECM. I am not sure which other devices could reset. The Supaquick in Brackenvell (Cape Town) was able to, but I am not sure what device they had.
What if you just unplug the sensor? Will there be a check engine light? Electronics for an old school 4x4 is such a pita.
Hi Chronicle, apologies for only replying now. We did not want to mess with the electronics, since, I believe the steering angle sensor "talks" to the ESC system.
i need to fix that to... i dont find anybody with a good scanner to reset the angle sensor... can i do alignment but with the steering wheel 7 degres on the left ??
Hi, no that won't work, it will be worse. The sensor needs to be reset if the issue is the pulling to the right.
@@fooshadventure yeah i had doubt to.. even to only move the steering wheel 7degres in the left ?
Hi guys! I finnaly do the job at the import dealer in Colombia, it worked… BUT the issue Came back few days ago!!! what do u think about that??? What happen if i turn not only the steering wheel but the steering colomn ?
We haven't had a need to redo ours, even after changing suspension, the fact that yours has gone out again could still be a geometry/alignment issue, there should be no need to change the steering column.
I had went for a test drive in jimny today i have seen the sa e issue in the testi g vehicle
Beside that the steering of 5 door jimny is very stiff, need two hands to turn, why is it like that?
Hi, it shouldn't be stiff as it has power steering that seems strange.
Interesting, the geomotry is the same as the 3 door, so the issues could be present in the 5 door too, we don't have experience of the 5 door yet.
Are you in 4h mode?
i still can't find a scan tool that can reset/re calibrate the SAS of the Suzuki Jimny JB74.
i hope someone can share a light on this
Hi there. We found the same. I believe the Snapon diagnostic tools might be able to do the reset, but they were too expensive. The Hunter wheel alignment machines should also have updates for thier diagnostics SAS reset. The more affordable tools, we found almost all, use the same database and they were unable to do the SAS reset. The dealership route, using thier dedicated PC was our only option. I hope you are able to find a suitable solution. Please let us know.
Hey mate, I can see you’ve put a lot of effort into your video, but from my person experience, this issue can be fixed without resetting steering angle sensor.
After having the same problems with tyre shops I decided to investigate myself, this issue is solved by keeping the driving wheels straight while adjusting the drag rod. This pushes the steering arm to the correct position to centre the steering wheel rather than pushing the driving wheels left or right.
This can be tested by turning full lock to lock and counting the amount of turns left from centre and right from centre. 2 full rotations must be achieved in each direction. If it doesn’t, then your steering is not centred.
Hi thank you for this. but just to clarify, if you kept the driving wheels straight then adjusted the draglink, the steering wheel will move right? then it will affect the steering sensor and will move the wheels to compensate, thus will drag your vehicle to one side when driving
Correct.
@@DAWGstyle you have to reset a couple of times. Point the driving wheels straight by eye, turn the drag rod, check the driving wheels are straight, readjust the drag bar. I have personally had the steering wheel travel through a 180° with the driving wheels dead straight..
Quieck question! =) was your jimny pulling to one side of the road or was the steering wheel just off center when traveling in a straight line?
Hi Luis. When you hold the steering wheel level/straight, the Jimny drives straight, as soon as you let go, the steering wheel moved over to the right. It was almost as if something was pulling the steering wheel to the right. The Jimny then starts tracking right. Hope this helps?
@@fooshadventure thanks! im just gathering info as a jimny owner and wheel aligner so i can help others aswell! Something like what you discribed happen to me on a slight degree but then out of nowhere in couple of days it was gone and it has tracked perfect ever since! I did find it a bit weird specially because the electric assist on the Jimnys does not steers the car like in other more complex/intrusive lane assist systems. Thanks again!
I think the Jimny has remnants of the lane keep assist, for models that dont have the feature, so the power steering tries to keep the steering wheel straight, but after changing the ride height, the Jimny thinks it is straight, but it is not.
Hold the front wheels straight and adjust the drag link
I have personally had the steering wheel clocking 180° left to right with the driving wheels pointing straight
Did not work at all in our case.
@@fooshadventure I’d love to see a video of it not doing it. I cannot not fix it unless you’ve either taken the steering wheel off and moved it on the collumn.
How does this reset work exactly?
Hi. You would need to find a device that can reset the steering angle sensor or you would need to take it to your nearest Suzuki dealership so they can connect one of thier laptop to the Jimny's OBD2 port.
What have things come to when laymen have to educate workshops?
❤ great 👍
I had this problem twice.
Hi, have you been able to finally fix the issue?
This can be tested by turning full lock to lock and counting the amount of turns left from centre and right from centre. 2 full rotations must be achieved in each direction. If it doesn’t, then your steering is not centred.
Ho lo stesso problema sul mio del 2019 , mai risolto
Let us know if you try the sensor reset, and how it goes.
@@fooshadventurehi I have just come across your video. I require some help if possible I have fitted the black raptor 75mm / 3” lift on my jimny 2023 (73) plate. Mine is left hand down rather than to the right. Would this still be the same procedure but reset the steering sensor to the right instead of left. I’m in the uk vehicle is a right hand drive. I keep getting traction control light and cuts the throttle out and messing with and etc. Hope you can help
Thanks Dan
@danielhobbs574 it could be geometry related, best would be to take it to a suspension specialist to check thoroughly, assuming you have castor correction bushes (installed correctly) ,extended panhard rods etc.
Make sense
Hey mate, I can see you’ve put a lot of effort into your video, but from my person experience, this issue can be fixed without resetting steering angle sensor.
After having the same problems with tyre shops I decided to investigate myself, this issue is solved by keeping the driving wheels straight while adjusting the drag rod. This pushes the steering arm to the correct position to centre the steering wheel rather than pushing the driving wheels left or right.
This can be tested by turning full lock to lock and counting the amount of turns left from centre and right from centre. 2 full rotations must be achieved in each direction. If it doesn’t, then your steering is not centred.