Biggest thing here is the fact that Vaxee only ships through their website and you pay for shipping which is sometimes really expensive. The EC2 is 99 bucks on Amazon with free shipping while the E1 is gonna cost you 150+ after shipping.
my only gripe with the EC2 has always been the m1 and m2 not being physically separate from the rest of the shell. I feel like that makes a big difference in terms of click responsiveness and spammability
E1 in light blue - i pulled the trigger. Played a lot with the ec2 from around 2014-15 till 2022-23 ( cable break on my last EC2). At the moment im Playing with the NP01, but i miss that Palm feeling of the EC Shape and want to try out the Wirelss tec.. im very excited!!
Would have been cool if, you had made a comparison between Vaxee e1 with Pulsar Xlite v3/Es and the new Razer deathadder V3 hyperspeed. All except Vaxee e1 are easily available where I live (Sweden) but would be nice with a comparison as I am far from wealthy and cannot jump between expensive mice.
Man, I JUST got the DA v3 HS after hearing about it and now I'm seeing this lmao. We'll see how I feel with the DA but this one will always be on my mind. How does it compare to the DA v3 HS?
Went from EC2-CW to AX due to build and clicks but still kind of miss the shape. AX makes my wrist start to ache a little over time. May have to snag one of these
Hello, I have the iFi zen dac v2 and the Sennheiser HD 490 Pro headphones. As you can see, I follow your advice!!! Do you think I will notice a difference with Topping Dx9? thank you
which of these mice is more slippery in sweaty palms? vaxee e1 or ec2-b? I've been using the ec-2b for a long time and this mouse is very slippery (IMHO) different colors e1 have different coatings or no?
I had the EC-2, but it gave me hand pain, so I returned it. I sort of want to try this, but I'm worried it will be the same outcome. The Lamzu Thorn was a way better fit, but felt too cheap. I hope they update the Outset AX. Less weight, and more solid plastic since I heard the E1 does better with side flex. I'm looking at the Superlight Dex, but I don't want another superlight.
@@FreshReviewsYT You need to play with mouse atleast for 2weeks , so your hand get used to the shape. my first week of ec2 was nightmare , but now i cant change this badboy to anything else
@@filosavage7475 If the mouse is small or big in your hands , thats a different situation. I believe thats very small for u , had same problem with ec3
@@FreshReviewsYT nice gonna have to give it a go since raidan soft is my main 😅 One thing is Vaxee recommend not using soup to wash and just warm water, my raiden I fully clean in the shower with soup so PC might not last as long.
May i ask how the E1 compares to the DaV3 hyperspeed? Ive enjoyed the hyperspeed but the EC3 was my favourite shape (but too heavy). Maybe the E1 is a suitable alternative?
As en EC2 user the E1 looks more narrow. Is this an issue do you think? The NP-01S is way to narrow for me and the E1 seems to flare out more where the buttons are.
For someone who has used Finalmouse exclusively for the last few years, but is looking to venture out. What do you recommend grabbing? I’m currently looking at the Pulsar X2H v3 and GPX Superlight 2 but am open to suggestions. Thanks in advance!
@@celzolsen8988 whenever it releases i’ll be getting the xm2w for free since i preordered forever ago, excited for that but who knows when it’ll actually launch
Just got the maya doodle but I am gonna try this E1 for a ergo since the thorn felt a little weird to me. Thanks for making me spend so much money on mice...... Thanks....
I've been using the vaxee PC BECAUSE of your initial recommendation. I cannot agree more about your current impressions on this pad. The consistent texture feel of the pad combined with the speedy acceleration feels like snake skin to me and it's been on my desk ever since the first batch pre-order with zero issues since.
As someone who was hoping Vaxee would give us their take on the EC2 but a smidge bigger in that EC1.5 territory I’m crushed they went the other direction where it’s slightly smaller than the EC2 even lol. Just my opinion though, love the EC mice but the 2 is a bit too small for me while the 1 just feels enormous/too large.
Unfortunate as I was hoping to get your thoughts on the E1 BlindBison, but with it being smaller I figured you'd pass on it. I'd prefer an EC1.5 as well, but still picked up the E1 out of curiousity. Should arrive in a few days...
@@Scurvyrot Thanks xD I might buy one anyway down the road, but given how similar it is shape wise to EC2 I can “probably” guess (maybe?) what some of my thoughts would be. 1) Given its shape is almost identical to the EC2 - but it’s a bit shorter by a hair - I expect for me the EC2 would be preferred as it’s already a little too small for me to palm grip comfortably. 2) I generally prefer finger ledges/the shape of the finger ledge on the outset feels a smidge more natural to me than the EC2 one - though I like both fine as they rounded their corners under the clicks. 3) for the finger ledge one thing I worry about from the pictures is that it looks like the part where the right click corner rounds / where they finger ledge top right piece is - it looks very “small” even compared to EC2. This concerns me as a palm gripper since I like having lots of space there for my fingers to rest and if that piece is too small or the click sits too low what can happen is your fingers wind up feeling the side of the right click which isn’t too great imo 4) unibody shell and proper split trigger switches from vaxee is a big upgrade. Seems weight is better too while maintaining good build quality. 5) Is the wheel like the Outset wheel I wonder? I have a strong preference for the EC2 / EC1-C wheels myself compared to my outset. 6) side buttons are smaller on the E1 compared to EC2. For me that’s disappointing but hard to tell how much I’d notice without owning one. Have a good one man :)
@@BlindBison 1) I'm a palmer too, but when I'm really "gaming" (tac shooters) I end up in an almost claw grip so the E1 might work. 3) This worries me too, like a lot. Thanks for the input. Can't wait to get the E1 in hand
@@Scurvyrot > Palm Grip Gang There are dozens of us! Dozens! XD nice Yeah, point 3 was also worrying me a lot looking at pictures - the tip of the finger ledge by the right click is just very short/tiny on the E1 going off the images - looks smaller than EC2 and I already feel the side of the EC2 click at times depending on what angle/how far choked up on it I am. Bummer for me as Vaxee is one of the few who could really make a “better” EC2 in theory and there do seem to be some clear upgrades on the E1 in any case. I hope to god either Razer fixes the issues with the DA V4 or that Zowie/Vaxee give us the dream EC1.5 like mouse some day. Have a good one man :) always love chatting about mice
Biggest thing here is the fact that Vaxee only ships through their website and you pay for shipping which is sometimes really expensive. The EC2 is 99 bucks on Amazon with free shipping while the E1 is gonna cost you 150+ after shipping.
Yeah its about 30 dollars too expensive with shipping and the experience of not having an Amazon risk buffer
my only gripe with the EC2 has always been the m1 and m2 not being physically separate from the rest of the shell. I feel like that makes a big difference in terms of click responsiveness and spammability
weightbalance is way more important than weight. beside that up to 65g is totally ok as long as its not a small fingertip mouse
E1 in light blue - i pulled the trigger. Played a lot with the ec2 from around 2014-15 till 2022-23 ( cable break on my last EC2). At the moment im Playing with the NP01, but i miss that Palm feeling of the EC Shape and want to try out the Wirelss tec.. im very excited!!
Enjoy
@@FreshReviewsYT best mouse i ever had! ec2 shape, perfect weight, good sensor, flawless wireless
Would have been cool if, you had made a comparison between Vaxee e1 with Pulsar Xlite v3/Es and the new Razer deathadder V3 hyperspeed. All except Vaxee e1 are easily available where I live (Sweden) but would be nice with a comparison as I am far from wealthy and cannot jump between expensive mice.
Nice review as always! Can't wait for the EC3-DW that is coming soon!
best mcie from zowie atm are s2 and u2-dw but the button design not seperated from the shell just feels so bad to click
I caved in and got the E1 (: Recently started using ergo again. The DAv3. Sadly it's too big.
Yea the dav3 is too big for sure
And just like that, got me looking at another mouse😂
@@DEM0NJEDI haha
Better than me. I preordered already and am now searching for reviews to validate my impulse buy 😅
Man, I JUST got the DA v3 HS after hearing about it and now I'm seeing this lmao. We'll see how I feel with the DA but this one will always be on my mind.
How does it compare to the DA v3 HS?
I just got the e1 from not a da v3 hs but a pro the e1 does feel better
Thanks for the reviews Freshy...woof! 🐶
It seems like Zowie lost their dev and can't think of ways to improve their mice
🤡
Went from EC2-CW to AX due to build and clicks but still kind of miss the shape. AX makes my wrist start to ache a little over time. May have to snag one of these
I would for sure
My E1 came today and it fits like a glove. Proud vaxee fanboy since I first heard about them planning their NP-01 release. 🙂
how do the clicks on the e1 feel compared to their other mice?
What's the difference between an am in the game compared to a crude EC pit and a Becky E1 pit?
I wonder if Becky E1ft is very slippery
Hello, I have the iFi zen dac v2 and the Sennheiser HD 490 Pro headphones. As you can see, I follow your advice!!! Do you think I will notice a difference with Topping Dx9? thank you
Yes but it’s expensive
Im playing Warzone rn and currently want to switch from the Artisan Zero Soft. I want a pad that is firm. Should I go for the PC or PD?
which of these mice is more slippery in sweaty palms? vaxee e1 or ec2-b? I've been using the ec-2b for a long time and this mouse is very slippery (IMHO) different colors e1 have different coatings or no?
I had the EC-2, but it gave me hand pain, so I returned it. I sort of want to try this, but I'm worried it will be the same outcome. The Lamzu Thorn was a way better fit, but felt too cheap. I hope they update the Outset AX. Less weight, and more solid plastic since I heard the E1 does better with side flex. I'm looking at the Superlight Dex, but I don't want another superlight.
Dex would probably be good for youb
@@FreshReviewsYT You need to play with mouse atleast for 2weeks , so your hand get used to the shape. my first week of ec2 was nightmare , but now i cant change this badboy to anything else
@@hootangofi Never got used to the Xlite V3 Mini. It hurt so much I still feel the pain to this day... maybe I should go to a doctor tbh.
@@filosavage7475 If the mouse is small or big in your hands , thats a different situation.
I believe thats very small for u , had same problem with ec3
if the EC2 hurt but the thorn felt good, I think you should try the EC3
Nice video fresh, you prefer the backer pc or the artisan raidan?
vaxee PC and raiden Soft = tied. Right now i am using the PC
@@FreshReviewsYT nice gonna have to give it a go since raidan soft is my main 😅
One thing is Vaxee recommend not using soup to wash and just warm water, my raiden I fully clean in the shower with soup so PC might not last as long.
Is it suitable for 185x105 mm hand size and claw grip? Use to be I used ec3-cw but it was slightly small it was consistent. What about this one?
This should be good
Hey, how do you adjust polling rate, lod and click speed on this mouse?
@@solicit178 look up the video they have for the Vaxee xe s on RUclips. Goes over how to change most things
Forgot to ask how is the coating on the E1 compared to like a lamzu mouse?
It does not feel as dry and plasticy, but I feel works about as good both ways if that makes sense
hey Fresh whats ur current main mousepad ?
I’m testing great pads from lethal. And the Pc
@@FreshReviewsYT so u have no Main Pad or Pad that ur using alot ?
May i ask how the E1 compares to the DaV3 hyperspeed?
Ive enjoyed the hyperspeed but the EC3 was my favourite shape (but too heavy). Maybe the E1 is a suitable alternative?
The e1 gets the flair of the ec3 better than the hyperspeed. It’s worth a shot
The scroll wheel on the EC2 is terrible (atleast on my unit is straight up terribe). IS the E1's scroll wheel much better?
Yea much better. It’s lighter less scratchy
great vid, which keyboard is that?
Keysme aim04
is ifi zen dac v3 enough for arete iems or is there better option for amp/dac in this price?
It is enough and yes I prefer a topping dx3 pro + and the new if gunnr from schiit
hey mate, could you recommend a mouse that has the same ergo/size of the Logitech G403 Prodigy wireless?
I’d try the dex. Different shape but you may like it.
Would you say the PD surface is smooth to the arm?
It’s textured
As en EC2 user the E1 looks more narrow. Is this an issue do you think? The NP-01S is way to narrow for me and the E1 seems to flare out more where the buttons are.
It’s strikingly difficult to tell, but in my hand it does feel slightly slightly more narrow
Do you think you perform better in game with the E1 over the Maya ?
I’d say comparable. I perform great on the maya x
For someone who has used Finalmouse exclusively for the last few years, but is looking to venture out. What do you recommend grabbing? I’m currently looking at the Pulsar X2H v3 and GPX Superlight 2 but am open to suggestions. Thanks in advance!
EGG XM2
@@celzolsen8988 whenever it releases i’ll be getting the xm2w for free since i preordered forever ago, excited for that but who knows when it’ll actually launch
Really depends what you’re looking for. Something similar or not
@@FreshReviewsYT i ended up ordering the pulsar x2h v3, i think i’m just bored of the finalmouse offerings at this point.
@@0xDapper same dawg
unrelated but hoping to see schitt gunnr review
Just got the maya doodle but I am gonna try this E1 for a ergo since the thorn felt a little weird to me. Thanks for making me spend so much money on mice...... Thanks....
Haha sorry.
Vaxee PC is so good for CS
I've been using the vaxee PC BECAUSE of your initial recommendation. I cannot agree more about your current impressions on this pad.
The consistent texture feel of the pad combined with the speedy acceleration feels like snake skin to me and it's been on my desk ever since the first batch pre-order with zero issues since.
Seriously it’s so good
patiently waiting for wraith sense iem [itsFine]
review*
which dot skates did you put on E1?
The tiger ice yanzi dots
@@FreshReviewsYT thank you
Please help compare Vaxee PD and Bee Control & Speed. Like the sound of tactile feedback.
As someone who was hoping Vaxee would give us their take on the EC2 but a smidge bigger in that EC1.5 territory I’m crushed they went the other direction where it’s slightly smaller than the EC2 even lol. Just my opinion though, love the EC mice but the 2 is a bit too small for me while the 1 just feels enormous/too large.
Unfortunate as I was hoping to get your thoughts on the E1 BlindBison, but with it being smaller I figured you'd pass on it. I'd prefer an EC1.5 as well, but still picked up the E1 out of curiousity. Should arrive in a few days...
@@Scurvyrot Thanks xD I might buy one anyway down the road, but given how similar it is shape wise to EC2 I can “probably” guess (maybe?) what some of my thoughts would be.
1) Given its shape is almost identical to the EC2 - but it’s a bit shorter by a hair - I expect for me the EC2 would be preferred as it’s already a little too small for me to palm grip comfortably.
2) I generally prefer finger ledges/the shape of the finger ledge on the outset feels a smidge more natural to me than the EC2 one - though I like both fine as they rounded their corners under the clicks.
3) for the finger ledge one thing I worry about from the pictures is that it looks like the part where the right click corner rounds / where they finger ledge top right piece is - it looks very “small” even compared to EC2. This concerns me as a palm gripper since I like having lots of space there for my fingers to rest and if that piece is too small or the click sits too low what can happen is your fingers wind up feeling the side of the right click which isn’t too great imo
4) unibody shell and proper split trigger switches from vaxee is a big upgrade. Seems weight is better too while maintaining good build quality.
5) Is the wheel like the Outset wheel I wonder? I have a strong preference for the EC2 / EC1-C wheels myself compared to my outset.
6) side buttons are smaller on the E1 compared to EC2. For me that’s disappointing but hard to tell how much I’d notice without owning one.
Have a good one man :)
@@BlindBison 1) I'm a palmer too, but when I'm really "gaming" (tac shooters) I end up in an almost claw grip so the E1 might work.
3) This worries me too, like a lot.
Thanks for the input. Can't wait to get the E1 in hand
@@Scurvyrot
> Palm Grip Gang
There are dozens of us! Dozens! XD nice
Yeah, point 3 was also worrying me a lot looking at pictures - the tip of the finger ledge by the right click is just very short/tiny on the E1 going off the images - looks smaller than EC2 and I already feel the side of the EC2 click at times depending on what angle/how far choked up on it I am.
Bummer for me as Vaxee is one of the few who could really make a “better” EC2 in theory and there do seem to be some clear upgrades on the E1 in any case.
I hope to god either Razer fixes the issues with the DA V4 or that Zowie/Vaxee give us the dream EC1.5 like mouse some day.
Have a good one man :) always love chatting about mice
Hey, i'm here to comment on the keyboard. New one? Which one is this? :P
Testing the keysme aim04 he
I wish i can change the DPI by 100 steps
Ergonomic mouse is the best mouse shape for constant performance.
Such a beautiful color!!!! Love the vaxee np01s
It really is!
FIRST WOOOO
PC is on the way, less go.
Dude it’s so good. Lmk how you like it
@@FreshReviewsYT sure thing man will do.
@FreshReviewsYT BTW this mouse pads slaps man. One of the best pads I have used this year. 🎉
First 🎉
First viewer. Can I get a free mouse.