I recorded this video before the unveiling by Vaxee to see how close I was to accurate. I think we got close especially with the changes between this and the outset. Just so you all know the mouse rocks a 3950 sensor. The mouse is also more so a modification from the legendary EC2. Love to see it, this means we may see the continuation of the outset as well as the E1 in a separate ergo category. Both mice are legendary. One other thing I forgot to note, the usb c port at the front has been changed a bit and the cable near the usb c no longer has the flair design. It’s more standard now. Hope everyone enjoys this one
As always thanks for your impressions sir. You're still my first go to with peripherals and audio 🙂! Even though I haven't been collecting much these days anything from EGG or Vaxee I still have to cop.
I have only a ergo mouse and it is Sword X and for me it is exactly the shape I want. My nitpick would probably my pinky finger feels awkward like it rests inwards to mouse that sometimes it is noticeable. Other than that, it is great. I would like to try other ergo mouse in the future. Great vid always, man! keep it up
This looks like it is the actual successor to the EC2. Looking at Vaxee's website, they're all but saying this is the next gen EC2, created by the original designer of the EC2. From Vaxee's website: "Up until now, all VAXEE mouse designs have been led by our CEO, Xanver. The first mouse Xanver was involved in developing was an assymetrical ergonomic model released in 2010, in collaboration with a legendary CS star...As gaming and usage habits have evolved, Xanver used the original shape as the foundation.."
@@FreshReviewsYT oh woops, completely missed that. I've mained the Zowie EC2 for years and have been unhappy with all attempted clones. I've tried the Pulsar Xlite v2 and v3, Glorious Model D, Vaxee outset/np01/np01-s, steelseries prime, lamzu thorn, pwnage ultra custom ergo, and a few more that I'm probably forgetting. All the clones come close, but even a few millimeters difference in shape makes a huge difference to in-hand feeling. None of them have been able to replicate the combination of locked-in secureness + ability to quickly microadjust that the EC2 has. Knowing that the E1 comes from the guy who was literally part of the original EC2 design team makes me very excited to try this out.
does thumb placement feel just as curved as AX? I kind of wished the thumb placement area was a bit flatter. Since for whatever reason for flicks/clicks, I tend to placement thumb towards the back of the mouse for a wider feel as the thumb area under the buttons make me feel like it's going inside the mouse
@@Frostfirerotation I think if someone likes magnesium it’s a contender. For me I ended up placing it under my hyperspeed and Logitech dex and I would probably choose those over it as well. More shape preference based than anything however
Would you say between this and the Xlite V3 Medium there isnt any noticeable difference? (Looked up eloshapes, they look like 99.5% identical) or is the in hand feel noticeable different?
@@FreshReviewsYT yep ive been peeping mems iems as i have a hard of hearing mom and mems seems very promising for that her use case in hearing aids, but i think there was only one mems iem before that was custom order or something for a lot of money, the new moondrops is a mems + planar and its alot more affordable in comparison and it seems like it a precent decent iem from what some reviewers were saying at the SIAS conference in the Gizaudio video.
Pre-order actually opens tomorrow, have to remember as well the price increase actually goes to the government and not to Vaxee. It’s unfortunate eu prices are higher on most products 😭
Theyre significantly higher. It's annoying in reviews how people are like "for $100 you can have this" but in the EU it could $150 instead ...@@FreshReviewsYT
hey man quick question, just got my fnatic x lamzu Maya X, its great but for some reason the firmware update wont work for me? did you have any problems with this, like i click on the update tool and nothing happens and nothing opens... i cant seem to fix it or find any info
Does this thing have swtich grind like the outset did on M1? I contacted vaxee and they told me it was normal and if I sent it in I would get the same thing back
@@ACE112ACE112 They stated that the way that M1 is on an angle that the grinding will happen. In normal use i never felt it, but when I strafed and held down M1 it felt awful
@@FreshReviewsYT I picked up a couple pairs on the silver fox skates in pink and in grey earlier this week for my ax and np-01. Now I'm thinking I'll save a set for my future blue E1.
I recorded this video before the unveiling by Vaxee to see how close I was to accurate. I think we got close especially with the changes between this and the outset. Just so you all know the mouse rocks a 3950 sensor. The mouse is also more so a modification from the legendary EC2. Love to see it, this means we may see the continuation of the outset as well as the E1 in a separate ergo category. Both mice are legendary.
One other thing I forgot to note, the usb c port at the front has been changed a bit and the cable near the usb c no longer has the flair design. It’s more standard now.
Hope everyone enjoys this one
Also, I believe lift off can also be changed through mouse click combos. But the L M H on the bottom actually refers to click debounce.
For the final review I’ll grab an ec2 and compare it between the ec2 as well.
As always thanks for your impressions sir. You're still my first go to with peripherals and audio 🙂! Even though I haven't been collecting much these days anything from EGG or Vaxee I still have to cop.
Love to hear it!
I have only a ergo mouse and it is Sword X and for me it is exactly the shape I want. My nitpick would probably my pinky finger feels awkward like it rests inwards to mouse that sometimes it is noticeable. Other than that, it is great. I would like to try other ergo mouse in the future. Great vid always, man! keep it up
Tysm!
How would you compare the size vs the EC3? or is it the same as an EC2 if you dont mind me asking
Check out vaxee’s reveal video. It is about the same as an ec2
This looks like it is the actual successor to the EC2. Looking at Vaxee's website, they're all but saying this is the next gen EC2, created by the original designer of the EC2.
From Vaxee's website: "Up until now, all VAXEE mouse designs have been led by our CEO, Xanver. The first mouse Xanver was involved in developing was an assymetrical ergonomic model released in 2010, in collaboration with a legendary CS star...As gaming and usage habits have evolved, Xanver used the original shape as the foundation.."
@@donkim3176 yes. All in the pinned comment 😄
@@donkim3176 and it’s ok, at least we got a good overview compared to the outset. In the final review we will do a side by side to the EC
@@FreshReviewsYT oh woops, completely missed that. I've mained the Zowie EC2 for years and have been unhappy with all attempted clones. I've tried the Pulsar Xlite v2 and v3, Glorious Model D, Vaxee outset/np01/np01-s, steelseries prime, lamzu thorn, pwnage ultra custom ergo, and a few more that I'm probably forgetting.
All the clones come close, but even a few millimeters difference in shape makes a huge difference to in-hand feeling. None of them have been able to replicate the combination of locked-in secureness + ability to quickly microadjust that the EC2 has. Knowing that the E1 comes from the guy who was literally part of the original EC2 design team makes me very excited to try this out.
@@donkim3176 yea!!!!!
@@donkim3176 Xlite V3 is the closet to EC2. Zywoo has switched from EC2-CW to Xlite V3 ES
if they make a mini around 116 to 118mm length... oh boy I may have a new main
does thumb placement feel just as curved as AX? I kind of wished the thumb placement area was a bit flatter. Since for whatever reason for flicks/clicks, I tend to placement thumb towards the back of the mouse for a wider feel as the thumb area under the buttons make me feel like it's going inside the mouse
Do you think the new Finalmouse will be ergo?!
Mmmm I hope they would do something new but something tells me it’s just the same ole shape
@@FreshReviewsYT Yeah, think it's 13+ releases in a row of the same shape. They claim to be the most "innovative" which seems pretty ironic
Vaxee with a sub 60g mouse??
Yep! With dots I’m under 60!
They already have one with the XE-S (60g or 57g when 250mAh battery swap)
How's your Sword X holding up? Still a top contender for ergos?
@@Frostfirerotation I think if someone likes magnesium it’s a contender. For me I ended up placing it under my hyperspeed and Logitech dex and I would probably choose those over it as well. More shape preference based than anything however
For me the beast and beast max are more my thing
Would you say between this and the Xlite V3 Medium there isnt any noticeable difference? (Looked up eloshapes, they look like 99.5% identical) or is the in hand feel noticeable different?
In hand feel will be diff
How is the battery life compared to the superlight 2?
I find myself charging it more frequently on 4k
Do you prefer this or the dex??
I think right now I’m leaning toward e1
Looks great on the glsswrks.. great review
Thanks. Full review soon!
Daaaaaamn😍
Damn all these banger drops i should of waited
what you think about glasspad for gaming you use ?
It’s great
Mine is very loud when picking it up and putting it down. It's like a loose screw rattling or something.
Really??? Weird
Zowie FK2-DW review when 👀🙌
Hopefully soon
Great video.
No mouse app is the only reason why i can't buy Vaxee mice.
I love no mouse app! You can change everything with button combos
That's a plus to me.
Simgot EM6L or SUPERMIX 4
which is best for accurate footsteps for valorant and finals .pls tell me detail review about it pls
I have videos covering both.
@@FreshReviewsYT i watched it but confused.. I have the budget to buy EM6L not for SUPERMIX that why asking brother... Pls tell mee
@@rexzo2683 save money and try the kefine delci ae
@@FreshReviewsYT ohh brother I like to buy simgot 🤔
@@rexzo2683just get the em6l its perfect for valorant and cs
Which one looks prettier, the red or blue one?
Haven’t seen the red in person but the blue is siiiiiiick
@@FreshReviewsYTDoes the blue show finger prints or help hide them?
@@smoothyoda8190 it helps hide them in conjunction with the coating
moondrop concerto review is needed i wonder how good mems will be going forward
Oh damn is it using a mems?
@@FreshReviewsYT yep ive been peeping mems iems as i have a hard of hearing mom and mems seems very promising for that her use case in hearing aids, but i think there was only one mems iem before that was custom order or something for a lot of money, the new moondrops is a mems + planar and its alot more affordable in comparison and it seems like it a precent decent iem from what some reviewers were saying at the SIAS conference in the Gizaudio video.
What keyboard do you have?
Cyberboard r4
ok, lets pretend its not 99,9% EC2 shape :D
@@AerowaIk what is an ec2 😃
@@AerowaIk all kidding aside. Read the pinned comment
pulsar Xlite V3 comparison as well?
@@Fifty_Two_Hz we will get a final video with an ec2 comparison
Just check the video of AimAdapt, incl. e1 vs outset ax / thorn / xlite v3 size 2
@@ZJo. Will do , but Fresh stays my main opinion that matters because he is one of the few reviewers that has a similar hand size.
Will u be trying pwnage's new stormbreaker max?
I should be yea
Out of stock+ prices in europe are insane.
Indeed .....
On a side note that's a god teir mousepad.
Pre-order actually opens tomorrow, have to remember as well the price increase actually goes to the government and not to Vaxee. It’s unfortunate eu prices are higher on most products 😭
Theyre significantly higher. It's annoying in reviews how people are like "for $100 you can have this" but in the EU it could $150 instead ...@@FreshReviewsYT
@@FreshReviewsYTtariffs?
hey man quick question, just got my fnatic x lamzu Maya X, its great but for some reason the firmware update wont work for me? did you have any problems with this, like i click on the update tool and nothing happens and nothing opens... i cant seem to fix it or find any info
I’m sorry I don’t think I’ve tried to update mine yet
@@FreshReviewsYT wondering do u prefer the dex over the maya x?
Agile in the rear, not to loose or tight feeling...okaaaaaaay....I gonna have to stop watching your mouse reviews. 😇 WOOF! 🐕 Luv the vid Freshy. ❤🔥
Miss you
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how big is this conpared to razer deathadder v3? i tried thr deathadder v3 at the razer store and it was really big
Much smaller in hand
Does this thing have swtich grind like the outset did on M1? I contacted vaxee and they told me it was normal and if I sent it in I would get the same thing back
the switches are much improved
switch grind normal. aintnoway
@@ACE112ACE112 They stated that the way that M1 is on an angle that the grinding will happen. In normal use i never felt it, but when I strafed and held down M1 it felt awful
The Outset just looks more chonky
@@danq_ yea
I'm guessing same skates as the np and ax?
It seemed that way
@@FreshReviewsYT I picked up a couple pairs on the silver fox skates in pink and in grey earlier this week for my ax and np-01. Now I'm thinking I'll save a set for my future blue E1.
Early to video for once in a long time 😎😎
indeed that navy blue color is nice... which is why i'm getting a f1 extreme with that colorway next time haha
No Kazemi review :OOOO?
@@Mojo_DK not worth it. Limited batch and slightly different than the Akari. I have a YT short on it and really just don’t have more to add
Makes me wanna buy another ergo lol
surprised this didn't spawn the little covid info popup below the video
Hmmm I wonder why videos do that?
I want something a little smaller than EC2 and a little bigger than EC3 , is this the one ?
Probably not because it’s a variation of the ec2 specifically. I’ll have a comparison with an ec2 in the final review
so i was right about the vaxee
What is that mousepad?
Kazemi from glsswrks. Beautiful right??
@@FreshReviewsYT yeah make a great combo with the mouse
@@FreshReviewsYT also any difference between that and wallhack mousepad? Im interested in trying a glass pad but im stucked with my artisan zero lol
@@Matt-qc4fxkazemi is limited edition so probably expensive on secondary markets
:)
@@WyattOShea ayyyyyy!!!
I swear I've been collecting nothing but Vaxee mice...there's nothing better
@@xerosphoenix solid products.