Crashing Immediately After Takeoff into Downtown Taipei City | Wrong Side | TransAsia Flight 235

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  • Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
  • Find out why the ATR 72-600 operating TransAsia Airways Flight 235 crashed into a river shortly after takeoff from Taipei Songshan Airport, Republic of China (Taiwan).
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Комментарии • 1,4 тыс.

  • @Reed0069
    @Reed0069 4 года назад +167

    As a multi engine flight instructor, I make all of my students watch the dashcam video of this accident before I conduct their training on one engine inoperative (OEI). This is to emphasize the critical nature of identifying the correct engine, which is what the crew in the doomed flight failed to do properly. Excellent video as always.

    • @dingledangle265
      @dingledangle265 3 года назад +9

      How do they shut the wrong one down? What are they doing just flipping a coin and hoping it's the right one? I find it crazy a pilot with as many hours as this crew could do such a thing :O

    • @partytill10
      @partytill10 3 года назад +2

      @@dingledangle265 yeah fkn morons, do pilot employment procedures include IQ tests???

    • @alastairbarkley6572
      @alastairbarkley6572 3 года назад +4

      @@dingledangle265 Watch the Flight Channel video on British Midland 91 - where two experienced, well trained European pilots flying a brand new 737 did exactly that. They applied their skill and experience to this 'simple' problem and got it completely wrong.

    • @Marquis-Sade
      @Marquis-Sade 3 года назад +4

      @@partytill10 I would like to see you take the simplest pilot test and then write this sentence again with such arrogance.

    • @algrayson8965
      @algrayson8965 2 года назад +1

      @@alastairbarkley6572 The greatest air disaster - so far - was captained by Van Zandt, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines’ top training pilot. He was desperate to get his plane to V1 before his crew's time expired. Well, he made it.

  • @謝少埔
    @謝少埔 4 года назад +782

    I am Taiwanese. At first,people thought the pilots are hero.But after everyone knew they turned wrong engine off,we were very angry.

    • @BadWebDiver
      @BadWebDiver 4 года назад +18

      Have you seen the dashcam videos of the crash?

    • @angeloandrada7800
      @angeloandrada7800 4 года назад +32

      Is it also okay to call Taiwan a Republic of China in the description ? I thought it's not yet settled

    • @ahmet_0657
      @ahmet_0657 4 года назад +13

      @@BadWebDiver I have seen dashcam video and it was horrible

    • @leehobbs1076
      @leehobbs1076 4 года назад +20

      @@angeloandrada7800 who cares? they're all chinese, besides that's what's on their passports and immi stamps.

    • @officialryanhui
      @officialryanhui 4 года назад +73

      lee hobbs nah bro, both passports are different I saw it. One said republic of people’s China (Mainland China) and Republic of China (Taiwan) and I can be sure to you that Taiwan is nothing like China. Besides I believe that Taiwan ain’t China

  • @markwheeler202
    @markwheeler202 4 года назад +1025

    It's a sign of the times when I find myself watching an aircraft crash video to relax.

    • @seattlesikhness007
      @seattlesikhness007 4 года назад +34

      Mark Wheeler i know right! Im think same... why am i so infatuated with this!!!!

    • @seattlesikhness007
      @seattlesikhness007 4 года назад +16

      i get it I absolutely agree. Thanks for the puzzle piece my subconscious already knew.

    • @donkeyslayer4661
      @donkeyslayer4661 4 года назад +7

      Sounds like a personal problem.

    • @imtweetydiva29
      @imtweetydiva29 4 года назад +24

      Don't feel bad.I am doing it too.🙄

    • @jimsaunders5987
      @jimsaunders5987 4 года назад +2

      Mark Wheeler, me too.

  • @mattalewis13
    @mattalewis13 4 года назад +137

    “I shut down the wrong engine” is terrifying

  • @neilcabreira1324
    @neilcabreira1324 4 года назад +233

    15 survivors is a miracle

    • @BadWebDiver
      @BadWebDiver 4 года назад +2

      So true...

    • @mariocardabollo3631
      @mariocardabollo3631 3 года назад +6

      No, it´s physics.

    • @kentcyclist
      @kentcyclist 3 года назад +12

      Yes considering there were crocodiles in that river

    • @mariocardabollo3631
      @mariocardabollo3631 3 года назад +8

      @@kentcyclist I consider a miracle a crocodile in the cockpit flying the plane.

    • @MikeNJ1964
      @MikeNJ1964 3 года назад +2

      What a stupid comment. 43 people died and only 15 survived. How is that a "miracle"?

  • @rjsouthworth5246
    @rjsouthworth5246 4 года назад +418

    26 years earlier, British Midland Flight 92 crashed due to its pilots making the same mistake with the engines.

    • @sporkybutterz
      @sporkybutterz 4 года назад +7

      Except in that case wasn't it smoke through the ventilation system?

    • @bazil83
      @bazil83 4 года назад +48

      @@sporkybutterz Yeah, they didn't entirely trust their instruments, as the ventilation system on the previous model 737 was operated only by one of the engines, whereas the new model they were flying, it was fed by both. Based on smoke smell through the A/C, they used their instincts and shut down the wrong engine.

    • @datsuntoyy
      @datsuntoyy 4 года назад +9

      It’s funny how many commenters on that video didn’t get that and entirely blamed the aircraft.

    • @youtube-kanal2606
      @youtube-kanal2606 4 года назад +1

      Thought the same

    • @suburbia2050
      @suburbia2050 4 года назад +10

      @@bazil83 But when they shut down the engine the smoke stopped, which confirmed their action, the other engine was still running until just before landing. It was quite different to this incident overall.

  • @tima.478
    @tima.478 4 года назад +72

    As an AMT (aviation maintenance technician) i have been baffled by a great many things during my 33 years in aviation but this one, is right at the top of my list of "WTF!"

  • @podii17
    @podii17 4 года назад +677

    Imagine flying one plane for your entire career but not actually knowing how to fly it

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад +42

      Just to get a uniform....Pathetic.

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад +45

      @@jamescollier3 I am guessing that 99% of competent pilots would have landed that plane.

    • @Bobrogers99
      @Bobrogers99 4 года назад +54

      They knew how to fly it when everything worked perfectly, but they didn't have a clue about dealing with problems. Apparently little or no formal training on simulators and probably never read their manuals.

    • @doob_8497
      @doob_8497 4 года назад +3

      Bruh moménto

    • @ronwilliams357
      @ronwilliams357 4 года назад +10

      Stop being racist. In their culture they just learn how to operate the Western Man's autopilots. They have no time or interest in learning aviation.

  • @onkouth
    @onkouth 4 года назад +26

    The dash cam footage of this is crazy, the driver and passenger in the taxi it took out thankfully survived, RIP to those who didn’t make it, such a terrible tragedy!

  • @ABCDEFG-cj7mr
    @ABCDEFG-cj7mr 4 года назад +290

    shutting down the wrong engine causing a stall.
    The passengers... Dead because of that little misunderstanding and unprofessionalism...
    Appreciate that you're alive...

    • @jamesmorton7881
      @jamesmorton7881 4 года назад +1

      engines did not shut down in the video. oops, C- grade

    • @larrysproul9424
      @larrysproul9424 4 года назад +1

      So why didn't they turn around a d head back to the airport ?

    • @UJVALASS
      @UJVALASS 4 года назад +2

      What u mean by you are alive?

    • @gsmiley2707
      @gsmiley2707 4 года назад +2

      That's what happens when one flies while Chinese

    • @hshs5756
      @hshs5756 4 года назад +3

      You would think survival instinct alone would command a more attentive performance from the pilots -- it's almost as if they didn't care if they died, let alone the passengers behind them.

  • @enjoynature4113
    @enjoynature4113 4 года назад +91

    A good example of "just because you've been doing something for a long time doesn't mean your any good at it."

    • @HellcatMad
      @HellcatMad 3 года назад

      5:5

    • @poker_dealer
      @poker_dealer 3 года назад +1

      Your English writing skill is another good example.

    • @That_one_crackhead281
      @That_one_crackhead281 Год назад

      @@poker_dealer the only thing you’re focusing at? I see nothing wrong in this comment.

    • @poker_dealer
      @poker_dealer Год назад

      @@That_one_crackhead281 as least you did it correctly.

    • @That_one_crackhead281
      @That_one_crackhead281 Год назад

      @@poker_dealer are u seriously kidding me ? 💀

  • @Intrepid175a
    @Intrepid175a 4 года назад +110

    It always amazes me that anyone survives an incident like this.

    • @danielwalker6653
      @danielwalker6653 3 года назад +11

      the only reason they did is because the airspeed was low (stall; maybe 80-90 knots?) and the fuselage avoided the bridge and ended up in impacting mud banks and the river

  • @davidp2888
    @davidp2888 4 года назад +279

    How can people downvote something they haven't seen yet? Geez...

    • @harrysadler4622
      @harrysadler4622 4 года назад +5

      A few are probably miss clicks

    • @hopsta5628
      @hopsta5628 4 года назад +9

      I read recently that RUclips's algorithms give automatic thumbs down to videos for some inane reason.

    • @SnarkierThan-U-R
      @SnarkierThan-U-R 4 года назад +1

      Well I am 8:22 minutes in and NO Crash Yet, DESPITE THE TITLE SAYING THE CRASH OCCURS IMMEDIATELY AFTER TAKE-OFF

    • @htos1av
      @htos1av 4 года назад

      "autobot".

    • @davidp2888
      @davidp2888 4 года назад

      @Sahib Az-zaman Airlines I know it was streamed live, "dude".

  • @Sam_AMG
    @Sam_AMG 4 года назад +104

    WOW, did those pilots do "anything" right?! This is the best channel without a doubt as it goes into so much details. This video has made me angry with those pilots though, so many mistakes!

    • @16MedicRN
      @16MedicRN 4 года назад +6

      I was privileged to sit in the cockpit of a Southwest flight, by invitation (flight attendant told pilot that I was heard listening to VASaviation, Flight Channel. I told them I pray before every flight. They said, 'That we don't crash?' I said, 'No, that you follow every checklist no matter how experienced, respond to every emergency with your utmost experience.'

    • @BrigidSamhain
      @BrigidSamhain 4 года назад +2

      @@16MedicRN yes, just try, at least

    • @johnwinkler5361
      @johnwinkler5361 3 года назад +4

      Yes, the copilot did some things right.He said « wait » when the captain said he will close the power lever of N 1, which is the right thing to do in this situation on the ATR: wait.Then he did some procedures.To his credit also he was a captain flying as copilot so he wasn’t in his usual seat and function, which makes it difficult especially in an emergency.The captain however was beyond useless, he did everything wrong.

    • @eomat
      @eomat 3 года назад +2

      Actually I would say Disaster Breakdown channel is better but this is good.

    • @ChickenJoe788
      @ChickenJoe788 3 года назад

      It’s amazing how quick people are to blame

  • @sunnyfon9065
    @sunnyfon9065 4 года назад +359

    I still remember my mother showed me the real footage of this plane hitting the bridge and the taxi.

    • @sisu4134
      @sisu4134 4 года назад +39

      SunnyFon - Oh THAT was this plane crash!? I remember that in the news. So sad 😔

    • @sunnyfon9065
      @sunnyfon9065 4 года назад +25

      @Stacie 413 yeah, the video recorded by the car showing this plane’s left wing struck the bridge and the taxi and crashed into the river.

    • @sisu4134
      @sisu4134 4 года назад +10

      SunnyFon - yeah, if remember correctly they showed part of it on Good Morning America and then I watched more videos online. I couldn't imagine the fear in those people's eyes on both the plane and on the bridge!

    • @sunnyfon9065
      @sunnyfon9065 4 года назад

      @M F yes it was this video

    • @irgski
      @irgski 4 года назад +2

      That was quite a video. I think it also killed either the taxi driver or his passenger.

  • @sctncl
    @sctncl 4 года назад +13

    When this channel hits 1m subs it will be the most deserved on youtube. Amazing content and detail every time which must take so long. 👍

  • @alexmp3821
    @alexmp3821 3 года назад +4

    I can't understand 3 pilots and couldn't realized shutting down the good engine is a mistake

  • @willho4202
    @willho4202 4 года назад +48

    It’s pilots like these who are a danger to anyone that flies.

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 3 года назад +1

      These pilots won't endanger anyones' lives any longer.

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo 3 года назад

      I challenge you to land safely when an engine fails on you, it's not easy.

    • @normie2716
      @normie2716 2 года назад

      @@tensevo This incident didn't even start out as a life-threatening emergency. The PF turned it into one. However, I don't necessarily blame the pilot as much as I do the airline. This pilot was substandard throughout his career. The first airline he worked for terminated him because he did so poorly during his type-rating course. He managed to get through the course after being hired at Trans-Asia, but failed his first attempt at upgrading to Captain. Concerns within the airline were raised about his ability to command an aircraft, but eventually he was allowed to advance. The deficiencies he showed throughout his training manifested themselves on this final flight. This is a person who, unfortunately should never have been given this huge responsibility, and the proof is in the pudding.
      Also, challenging a random person who's not a pilot to land a plane on one engine is a little silly. There's a reason pilots receive all the training they do, and it's for moments just like this. This accident was *completely* avoidable.

  • @dodoubleg2356
    @dodoubleg2356 4 года назад +23

    If you listen to the FDR from this flight, right before it cut off, i.e. right before the crash, the captain said, "I shut down the wrong engine!!" How do 3 pilot's w/almost 15,000hrs between the 3 of them, misdiagnose a problem so badly?? Inexcusable!! R.I.P to all those affected by this completely preventable tragedy.

    • @geoh7777
      @geoh7777 4 года назад +2

      He wasn't the only one to do that.
      FDR - flight data recorder
      CVR - cockpit voice recorder

    • @dodoubleg2356
      @dodoubleg2356 4 года назад

      @@geoh7777 I'm sure.

    • @patrickunderwood5662
      @patrickunderwood5662 4 года назад +4

      Because airliner mfrs make it necessary for the crew to puzzle out which engine failed by looking at and correctly interpreting tiny little indicators in a dire emergency. It's nuts.

    • @drnogueiras8783
      @drnogueiras8783 4 года назад

      That would be the CVR, not the FDR
      (Edit: Should’ve read replies first. Oops.)

  • @sameerbhol5950
    @sameerbhol5950 3 года назад +4

    u didnt mention that flight hits a taxi car before plunged into the river. This accident was recorded in a dashcam of another car behind it. Thank God the driver was okay with minor injuries.

  • @phoenixscott001
    @phoenixscott001 4 года назад +10

    The editing skill that you have and your production quality, it is just, Spot on

  • @goodchessactor
    @goodchessactor 4 года назад +108

    C'mon there are only two engines operating. I've seen failure to identify a faulty engine when there are four engines operating, but two? Before I go messing around with turning engines off I better be damn sure I have the right one.

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад +15

      Common sense right?? But give someone a uniform and watch how arrogant they become.

    • @Kaimine08
      @Kaimine08 4 года назад +19

      What really irks me is that they didn't even have to turn the engine off. It was already feathered! All they needed to do was declare an emergency and move back to the airport and land on one GOOD engine. They overcomplicated an emergency, failed to fly the airplane and killed a bunch of people. They must have been under the mentality that "Plane crashes don't happen to me". Just a shame.

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад +3

      @Shawn Huffman how does this happen??? Seems even a rookie without a license would have done a better job. I am saddened to see how arrogant these two were.

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад

      @@Kaimine08 Absolutely agree.

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад +2

      @BlueJayRobin I have been saying stuff like this forever...and are you telling me they can't FEEL the push from one side or the other??? I find this so hard to grasp the ignorance involved.

  • @daafukulookinat4965
    @daafukulookinat4965 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for the pilot test history. That really solidifies the reason it happened and the end of the airline. Nice job sir........
    Thank You.

  • @x21vibe24
    @x21vibe24 4 года назад +109

    That dashcam caught everything.

  • @b.t.356
    @b.t.356 2 года назад +3

    The fact that these pilots shut off the wrong engine is quite scary

  • @mdot100
    @mdot100 4 года назад +11

    Yes, I remember cause this plane actually hit a bridge first, then tumbled over into the river! It must've been hell for the people inside! How did 15 people survive??

  • @craycraywolf6726
    @craycraywolf6726 4 года назад +6

    I find it ironic that the F/O with waaaay more hours under his belt was supposed to learn from these dorks.

    • @johnwinkler5361
      @johnwinkler5361 3 года назад

      He was a captain, he was just acting as copilot.Maybe there was no copilot available for this flight or maybe he was instructing.

  • @omegavladosovich6757
    @omegavladosovich6757 3 года назад +3

    I flew on Transasia from Taipei to Macau in 2014. They took off in the tail end of a tropical storm and the plane made a huge drop while climbing, due to a strong gust of wind and passengers started screaming thought the crew quickly regained control. That went through my mind when I heard of this and the other TransAsia ATR crash. A family friend was an airline executive and fortunately left the company before these events occurred.

  • @4to5MouseHive
    @4to5MouseHive 4 года назад +3

    I was literally JUST searching for this flight on your channel two weeks ago!! I'm so glad you made it! Very well done!!!

  • @Stiffybeaver
    @Stiffybeaver 3 года назад +2

    Most plane crashes in a decade was in the 1970s, over 2,000 people died from plane crashes. Today we have way more planes in the sky and less deaths...we're very lucky to be living in this decade!

  • @MJS_1990
    @MJS_1990 4 года назад +5

    Nice, I was wondering when a video on this crash would come out and you didn't disappoint, great video guys 👍

  • @nobibracamonte6163
    @nobibracamonte6163 4 года назад +2

    A Very Realistic and Informative Video,Good Job and keep up the good work!👌👌👌

  • @WillEDC
    @WillEDC 4 года назад +39

    I remember they were saying this guy was a “hero” because his hands was still gripped onto the steering but I felt the opposite because his simple mistake cost lives

    • @gregoryvierra6114
      @gregoryvierra6114 4 года назад +4

      I highly doubt his hands were still attached after such an impact. Critical thinking is hard.

    • @stefeniedavidmusic
      @stefeniedavidmusic 4 года назад +6

      It wasn't simple mistake. It was sheer stupidity Mistakes can be forgiven. We all make them. That was unforgivable.

  • @gaslitworldf.melissab2897
    @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 4 года назад +2

    Thanks. I've been waiting for that button to light up. I never get enough of these. I'll have to double back and rewatch. You do amazing work, skill, talent, thoroughness and respect.

  • @scofab
    @scofab 4 года назад +19

    This is what happens when 'pilots', sim trained, learn to 'fly' by flipping switches and pushing buttons.
    No instinct, no feel. Reaction, not response. Damn shame.

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад

      So true. I feel like most people with any sense of motion would feel which engine was dragging....all those hours of flying and they had no "FEEL" for the aircraft at all.

    • @danielebrparish4271
      @danielebrparish4271 4 года назад +1

      Many commercial air crashes are because the crew failed to monitor their instruments. Sometimes it's because they were not properly rested and sometimes it's forgetfulness. After watching a few of these videos I learned that the first officer is supposed to call out the instrument readings to the captain during takeoff, landing and in emergencies. All of three of these procedures are necessary because the pilot is busy working the controls and needs another pair of eyes to keep him informed.

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo 3 года назад

      I would argue they were improperly trained for this scenario. so, not enough sim time. The issue was they were hand flying by "instinct" and reacted to quickly (with the wrong response).

  • @mdd1963
    @mdd1963 4 года назад +15

    WHat a colossal phuck-up....! "Engine 2 fails...:! "Quik...shut down Engine 1!"

  • @alonextrast9029
    @alonextrast9029 4 года назад +37

    This was ages ago... I still remember it :) From Taiwan

    • @guyincognito3530
      @guyincognito3530 4 года назад +3

      Are you upset that China thinks Taiwan is part of China?

    • @guyincognito3530
      @guyincognito3530 4 года назад +6

      You guys should back up the protests in Hong Kong

    • @karlchilders5420
      @karlchilders5420 4 года назад +9

      @@guyincognito3530 Taiwan is its own country. They fought a battle over that shit. Chang lost the major war, but his forces went to Taiwan, and that's how it was settled. China will take Taiwan over at its own peril. You need to understand that China suffered HORRIBLE losses that they tried for EVER to cover up during the Korean war. Ridgeway fire-bombed the shit out of hundreds of thousands of Chicom soldiers. That's the biggest reason China was not belligerent at all during Vietnam. Nobody seems to want to acknowledge this in China, but the truth is the truth.

    • @martinc.720
      @martinc.720 4 года назад +3

      What do you mean "ages ago"?? lol wow

    • @gaslitworldf.melissab2897
      @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 4 года назад +8

      Ages ago? That means you're super young if you consider that "ages" ago. To me that's like yesterday. I'm a grandma. Anything still in the 20teens is recent to me, fresh enough to still hurt those affected by it.

  • @bigbodyrover7981
    @bigbodyrover7981 3 года назад +3

    it’s almost as if having incompetent pilots is a bad idea..

  • @tenorhowlermonkey3454
    @tenorhowlermonkey3454 4 года назад +4

    I remember seeing the footage of this crash and have always wondered what happened. Thanks toTheFlightChannel great video as always.

  • @btoff9856
    @btoff9856 4 года назад +2

    No one is probably going to mention this again, but nice touch on the background noise in the cockpit before take-off. Sounds like throat clearing and stuff.
    It really lulls you into the 'this really happened' feeling.

  • @gaztastic
    @gaztastic 3 года назад +6

    "Wow.. pulled back the wrong side throttle."
    -- The captain of TransAsia Flight 235, realizing they were about to crash

  • @NakulDalakoti
    @NakulDalakoti 4 года назад +1

    I must say that quality of your videos are improving day by day. Nice work.

  • @infinitestudios2785
    @infinitestudios2785 3 года назад +6

    I was one of the survivors of this crash. In my experience, Despite happening years ago, i still cant believe that i survived such a disaster....😓

  • @IrishDave
    @IrishDave 4 года назад +8

    This is incredible. There’s a reason checklists and procedures are there.

  • @carolmorris404
    @carolmorris404 4 года назад +12

    So many years of experience in the cockpit yet together they couldn't figure it out. RIP

    • @Gizziiusa
      @Gizziiusa 3 года назад

      yeah. i mean there was even a 16,000+ hours (w/ approx 6500 hrs on the ATR) , as an observer in the cockpit. seems to me that all of them would have double, even triple checked what they were doing to make sure they can make it back for a safe landing, and obviously that would include to make damn sure you are shutting down the in-op engine.
      with such low altitude, it was massively critical that they needed to make the correct decision. they didnt, all 3 of them. smh.

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo 3 года назад

      it's not that they couldn't figure it out, they had very little time to act and under pressure ppl make mistakes. Cockpit design should make it clear what the state of the aircraft is.

  • @bismarckm99
    @bismarckm99 4 года назад +2

    Your reconstructions are the best. Keep up the excellent work.

  • @MrPLC999
    @MrPLC999 4 года назад +7

    "Ineffective flight crew coordination, communication and error management compromised the safety of the..."
    Blah, blah, blah...
    The pilot shut down the wrong freakin engine and 43 people died. Incredible.

    • @tensevo
      @tensevo 3 года назад

      The aircraft failed, then the wrong engine was shut down, then ppl died.

  • @gman7644
    @gman7644 4 года назад +11

    co- pilot to captain, Sir, you have 2 left shoes on today, a brown one and a black one, what gives? Capt; I know, I have a a pair home just like it

  • @madamebkrt
    @madamebkrt 3 года назад +5

    I remember seeing this on my way home from school. Absolutely unreal.

  • @Flyfisher1976
    @Flyfisher1976 4 года назад +8

    RE: “a fault in the auto-feather unit on the no. 2 engine causes (the) auto-feathering (of) that engine”
    The auto-feather system is not faulted. It is responding to the loss of power on the effected engine, by feathering the propellers automatically, far quicker than a pilot could respond, especially in an emergency situation. This sets the propeller assembly’s blades leading edges to face the relative wind, reducing significant asymmetric drag in a critical phase of flight, which prevents the aircraft from rolling suddenly and subsequent loss of pilot control. This is normal operation of the auto-feather system.
    The “fault” is the engine flameout. The response is automatic feathering blades on the effected engine.

    • @sulmona55
      @sulmona55 4 года назад +4

      I think he was saying that a bad solder joint gave the sensor a misreading causing the engine to feather when it didnt need to, so he was saying it was faulted because it turned on when it shouldnt have

    • @euinhowie2303
      @euinhowie2303 4 года назад +3

      Stephens right, the auto feather system malfunctioned and tried to feather the propeller when there was nothing wrong with the engine. I'm pretty sure there was no master warning either so the crew weren't sure what was going on and miss diagnosed it. Its sad to know if they had done nothing at all the plane would have still flown.

    • @Flyfisher1976
      @Flyfisher1976 4 года назад

      Stephen Denino The subtitles preceding the statement regarding the auto feather read: “Shortly thereafter (the master warning), the right engine (NO. 2) begins to flame out.”
      The number two engine failure would cause the auto feather to activate. A fault in the auto feather could also cause the system to erroneously activate. Regardless, unless I’m missing something, the auto feather activation immediately proceeding the engine 2 flameout, would be considered normal auto feather system operation: The order of events as subtitled above are Master Warning > Engine flameout > auto feather activation.

  • @newbiekhyber
    @newbiekhyber 4 года назад +16

    Incompetent Pilots. And what was the "observer" observing - Taipei 101?

  • @ahmedbilal760
    @ahmedbilal760 4 года назад +2

    My ground school instructor said this to me once and I still & will remember it to the rest of my life, he said and I quote " most advanced pilots crash their planes because they forget what they have been taught at the beginning in the ground school " that is so true, coincidence happens that I am currently studying the emergency procedures, that include all sort of fails in the engine, and from where I see it, these pilots would have failed a simple flight test, I mean they haven't done any checklist for emergency after the engine has failed.

  • @midwayization
    @midwayization 4 года назад +3

    notice the funny GSX passengers I love how they just "shuffle" along

  • @shintanuramalia69
    @shintanuramalia69 4 года назад +3

    Still hoping that you would recreate JAL123 :)

  • @OshinTorek
    @OshinTorek 4 года назад +19

    An engine flame out! Which engine to shut down?
    Pilot: Yes

    • @gaslitworldf.melissab2897
      @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 4 года назад +4

      I know. Upsetting to think about it - a million years experience between them, but no brains. I assume they died, so didn't have to face the music of angry family members and bosses.

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад +3

      WTF>>>>idiots in uniforms.

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      @onemoremisfit 4 года назад

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  • @Directlite664
    @Directlite664 3 года назад +1

    Stress is a real killer. Experience and memory would not work if the situation was not been pre envisioned.
    Keeping calm at such situations and trying to think is the key. Its very hard.

  • @leopardgecko9100
    @leopardgecko9100 4 года назад +4

    Almost at one million! You'll for sure hit it soon :)

  • @nenblom
    @nenblom 4 года назад +2

    Your videos are amazing. Obviously, a lot of them are tragic. However, you do great work. I’m wondering how you know so much about aircraft. Great job!! I am also an aviation geek But I don’t know nearly as much as you do. May the passengers and crew of Transasia flight 235 RIP. Prayers to the few who miraculously survived,

  • @intothemystic5223
    @intothemystic5223 4 года назад +17

    Someone needs to make a channel like this but with tornados. I'd watch it.

    • @GordoGambler
      @GordoGambler 4 года назад +1

      Or maybe 100+ car/ truck pile ups. LOL

  • @PAVLOS2000
    @PAVLOS2000 4 года назад +2

    You are close to 1 Million!❤
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  • @themomentchannel3498
    @themomentchannel3498 4 года назад +8

    what i wonder is this:
    okay if the right engine was slowly failing they could have seen that on their instruments but instead of inspecting the instruments to see what is wrong the captain randomly decides to shutdown the left engine

  • @Vititi16
    @Vititi16 4 года назад +2

    This happened too in Cuba , specifically in Santiago de Cuba (MUCU) with an Antonov-24RV, they cut off the working turboprop instead of the damaged one and crashed in the Bartlett trench , nobody survived and with very hungry sharks in the area it was impossible to recover a single entire body!

  • @crashbandicoot4everr
    @crashbandicoot4everr 4 года назад +23

    What about Japan Airlines 123? That's one I would really like to see from you. :)

    • @salty_kr
      @salty_kr 4 года назад +2

      @@JPRong true

    • @KhanhLam777
      @KhanhLam777 4 года назад +4

      no pilot can keep the plane longer than JAL123 Pilot (even simulation)

    • @jerrodp9867
      @jerrodp9867 4 года назад +4

      Allen Joshua Ibay has a recreation on his channel. About 1 year ago.

    • @crashbandicoot4everr
      @crashbandicoot4everr 4 года назад

      @@JPRong That's what I thought.

  • @grahamjordan1040
    @grahamjordan1040 2 года назад +1

    Having watched a few of these reconstructions I am amazed at how many accidents are caused by the pilots, I have flown in the past but never again.

  • @jessicasnaplesfl7474
    @jessicasnaplesfl7474 4 года назад +6

    Isn't it unusual for BOTH qualified pilots to make the same MULTIPLE errors and ignore the same protocol procedures that led to this crash? Additionally, the third pilot, the "OBSERVER" in the jump seat, had more flying hours than both the captain-in-charge and the co-pilot combined. Didn't he OBSERVE any inconsistencies? The captain had the LEAST experience of all three. I can't recall any other Flight Channel video where so many BASIC ERRORS were committed by BOTH pilots. There were more errors than correct procedures. Also, as I recall, the captain always has more flying hours than the co-captain. Not positive about this last situation but am surely surprised by the numerous basic errors made in almost every procedure performed.

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад +1

      GLARING HUMAN FAILURE....Complete incompetence.

    • @mike_skinner
      @mike_skinner 4 года назад

      There seems to be a problem with this aircraft:
      www.smh.com.au/national/virgin-australia-under-investigation-after-engines-flame-out-during-landing-20181218-p50n22.html

    • @kdrapertrucker
      @kdrapertrucker 4 года назад +1

      Crew resource management has not quite reached all corners of the globe as yet.

  • @julianalcock1019
    @julianalcock1019 4 года назад +2

    This was very similar to the Kegworth crash on 8th Jan 1989. After the loss of a fan blade in the left engine, the pilot flying shut down the right engine and increased power to the left engine. He failed by a few hundred yards to make it to Est Midlands airport.

  • @troubadro
    @troubadro 4 года назад +7

    I felt this one, this one hurt. So many things like landing in the river and the enactment was almost as if I was there watching ...so sad please dont come on here and be hateful.

  • @chinigirlX3
    @chinigirlX3 4 года назад +1

    Wow I still remember this one so clearly! I was visiting Taipei that time and when it happened all news on TV were showing the footage of the broken plane, of the taxi dash cam etc! It was horrible learning that so little people survived (though one must say that even having survivors is quite a miracle) ! Rest in peace and may god bless their souls

    • @chinigirlX3
      @chinigirlX3 2 года назад

      @Serbian Republic of Carzonia Hi, and no no no. I wasn’t on the flight. I was in the city at the time to visit Taiwan/ Taipei

  • @marcdraco2189
    @marcdraco2189 4 года назад +3

    Hell's teeth, I remember seeing that crash on the news as someone filmed it on a dashcam!

  • @johnshields6852
    @johnshields6852 2 года назад

    Watching this program I've learned so much about flight procedures, but the fact that many pilots react poorly to situations that need snap decisions and because of their incompetence many people die, it's ridiculous, I'll never fly again, you never know how your pilot will react to problems that arise, it could cost you your life. Good luck to all and RIP to those souls lost.🙏

  • @edyoung9944
    @edyoung9944 4 года назад +8

    i'm in my 80's with 14000 hrs of time, what ever happened to "dead foot - dead engine" - has automation contributed to a shortfall in airmanship ?

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад +1

      You are correct sir....we can point to numerous accidents caused by OVER simplification.

    • @kdrapertrucker
      @kdrapertrucker 4 года назад +1

      I'm leaning toward yes. I mean they were on autopilot directly after gear up.

    • @wallacegrommet9343
      @wallacegrommet9343 4 года назад +2

      There are no real pilots anymore. Guys who flew VFR in every plane imaginable. My brother in law is 60, and an international pilot. When a situation arose where he had to hand fly a 787 to a new vector during final approach, his equally experienced copilot said that he doubted any of the younger pilots could have performed the maneuver

    • @j.l.wickham2531
      @j.l.wickham2531 4 года назад

      My thoughts exactly! Relying on automatic systems.

    • @scanspeak00
      @scanspeak00 3 года назад

      Can you explain what "dead foot - dead engine" means?

  • @ben-io2lp
    @ben-io2lp 4 года назад +2

    wow didnt expect such high graphics with fsx ! Nice Job

    • @hcotb3597
      @hcotb3597 4 года назад

      This isn't FSX

    • @ben-io2lp
      @ben-io2lp 4 года назад

      @@hcotb3597 oof but the description says so

  • @bigfish821
    @bigfish821 4 года назад +6

    I was wondering when you'd make that one, it'sprobably the most infamous dashcam footage crash

  • @ecclestonsangel
    @ecclestonsangel 4 года назад

    Notification : you have a TFC Video.
    Me: thank God something in my life is still normal!
    I've just come home from hospital after being sick with pneumonia. This was a welcome notification waiting for me! Thank you, thank you for continuing your hard work amidst the craziness. You're helping to keep me sane!

  • @nobibracamonte6163
    @nobibracamonte6163 4 года назад +47

    I was on Taiwan and I saw where the plane crashed back in Sep 2019(wanted to Go back there except there’s CoronaVirus today)

    • @02WIFE
      @02WIFE 4 года назад +1

      I like their Faa

    • @Sapphiresoul2
      @Sapphiresoul2 4 года назад +2

      What's with the "stillhatecoronavirustoday"???

    • @sassytbc7923
      @sassytbc7923 4 года назад

      nobi bracamonte wow... intense I am sure

  • @chewey3rd
    @chewey3rd 4 года назад

    I live in Taiwan and was on the freeway in Taipei the morning this horrible accident that happened. This is another excellent video.

  • @99dasram
    @99dasram 4 года назад +3

    Crisp video as always TMC. Well done 👏🏼On another note, I wanted to know if pilots can practice such situations on the simulator ?
    For instance, can prior accident scenarios be simulated and pilots be trained to rescue the plane ?

  • @joepatroni8777
    @joepatroni8777 Год назад +1

    Most dangerous situation is when you have three senior pilots in the cockpit. Somehow they always manage to fuck things up when things go wrong

  • @gaslitworldf.melissab2897
    @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 4 года назад +12

    That is so upsetting. I'm surprised that even 15 survived. I would have guessed zero. That's why pilots should never stop doing simulated emergencies, because they become complacent, assuming that things always go smoothly, so they always will. With that much experience in flight time, there was no reason for that to occur. And with Asia's strict code of respect and hierarchy, the two undoubtedly were over deferential to the eldest, who may not have had any more certainty due to lack of experience in emergency situations. Seems like when the console readings are not understood, things go so badly and the pilots can't troubleshoot.

    • @hwgray
      @hwgray 4 года назад

      In the series, there's a crash - in India, IIRC - essentially because the co-pilot was afraid to disrespect the pilot by questioning his decisions.

    • @thegames4565
      @thegames4565 2 года назад

      Examples like these is why that mindset needs to be erradicated.

  • @thomasquinn284
    @thomasquinn284 4 года назад

    Another great job FC! I do not understand how the operating engine was shutdown after the failure of the starboard engine. Total lack of situational awareness. All three pilots fIled to react in time to save the aircraft. All of them had a lot of time in this airplane and yet each failed to act timely and responsibly. This is clearly a training failure by the airline. Great work here FC. I love your videos. Thank you.

  • @WolfPilot
    @WolfPilot 4 года назад +4

    Jeeze, How many times has this happened where the pilots shut down the good engine? Total cockpit confusion.

  • @obliviox
    @obliviox 3 года назад

    15 survived!! How!! I was shocked i didnt think anybody would survive that. Rip to the lost souls and thankgod for the survivors

  • @evan1238
    @evan1238 4 года назад +15

    Sounds like some of these pilots were caught off guard once the autopilot light suddenly went out

  • @marsbars7584
    @marsbars7584 3 года назад

    Accidentally shutting down the wrong engine also made a C5 military cargo plane crash. That one is crazy. Must watch

  • @leepotter7422
    @leepotter7422 4 года назад +5

    I wonder if glancing at the instruments the no2 feathered engine instrument gauges appeared healthier because they had less drag so read higher and thats why they shut down the wrong engine?

    • @kdrapertrucker
      @kdrapertrucker 4 года назад +1

      Exhaust gas temp gauge should have either been way too hot, or way too cold depending on the nature of the engine problem. No. 1 engine would have read normal. There should also be a readout for the prop pitch angle as well, a prop moving to zero pitch would be an indicator of the dead engine as well, and the turbine RPM would be below normal as well since the turbine would be wind milling. Also the breaker for the electrical bus energized by that motor should trip due to low voltage.

    • @leepotter7422
      @leepotter7422 4 года назад +1

      @@kdrapertrucker thanks kenneth for explaining all that ..the way i understood it was only the prop feathered but the engine was healthy

  • @hellosunshine1090
    @hellosunshine1090 4 года назад +1

    Is it just me, why do I see ATR plane + Asian Air and think = ACCIDENT, almost immediately ?
    RIP to all those souls lost in a highly preventable accident.

    • @rext8949
      @rext8949 4 года назад +1

      what about German Wings ????

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090 4 года назад

      @@rext8949 Already done last year:
      ruclips.net/video/1nI-GMmHMHs/видео.html
      Tragic, but there it is.
      RIP to the victims....

  • @glasslinger
    @glasslinger 4 года назад +6

    This happens due to inadequate time in the simulator with simulated failures.

  • @mikeyoung9666
    @mikeyoung9666 2 года назад

    During my multi-engine IFR training twenty-odd years ago we were taught to verbally recite a checklist if we suspected and engine failure and while practicing in flight. Control, Power, Drag, Identify, Verify, Feather. First, control the airplane as it will yaw and roll hard on one engine, you need to get it trim, rudder and all control inputs reasonably set up so your not fighting the airplane too much and can then concentrate on other things. Power, add full power on BOTH throttles (you don't know which engine has failed and you may need all the power you can get especially on take-off. Reduce drag where possible, gear up, flaps up, trim ? Now that your flying clean and stable..... IDENTIFY - the failed engine with the instruments and VISUALLY, look out the windows and confirm it. VERIFY - again with instruments again with the throttles, confirm with crew. And finally, Feather the prop. Sounds like a lot to do. Not really. In flight, the instructor would grab a throttle lever and bring it to idle, usually when we were looking away.... It took maybe 30 seconds to get the correct engine feathered

  • @deshaunmurry1214
    @deshaunmurry1214 4 года назад +14

    Just as a suggestion I think it's time you do Japan Airlines flight 123 next.

    • @jerrodp9867
      @jerrodp9867 4 года назад

      Allec Joshua Ibay has a recreation of that on his channel. About a year ago.

    • @deshaunmurry1214
      @deshaunmurry1214 4 года назад

      @@jerrodp9867 Yeah I just want TheFlightChannel to do it too.

  • @ItzRetz
    @ItzRetz 4 года назад +1

    When you only have two engines and one of them failed, the very least you can do is be 110% sure you're shutting the correct one off...
    This is so sad...

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад +2

      Yeah some idiot woman in the comment section is blaming the "turbo props"...I let her have it. Such idiotic thinking is why we have so many LAME people working in professions that demand the best.

    • @ellenorbjornsdottir1166
      @ellenorbjornsdottir1166 4 года назад +1

      @@jaimhaas5170 Turboprops are insanely reliable if flown by pilots with a brain.

  • @Josh-hr5mc
    @Josh-hr5mc 4 года назад +60

    So these pilots spend their whole careers in one type of aircraft. No promotions or anything? Like 80+% of all their hours were on the ATR?

    • @rds990
      @rds990 4 года назад +11

      And their FO had over twice time in type than the Captains did !! (??)

    • @gaslitworldf.melissab2897
      @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 4 года назад +24

      My same observations. And apparently, they don't do many sims with emergency situations, because it seems to me like when the engine flamed out, their brains minded out. With that many years combined, there was no reason for that. I think I'll stick with US planes, because most of them have military/air force training, the most rigorous kind and they fly under duress and do difficult maneuvers. I don't think any other country has the same level or rigor.

    • @garygoodman9720
      @garygoodman9720 4 года назад +4

      GaslitWorld f. Melissa B what about Airbus...

    • @jaimhaas5170
      @jaimhaas5170 4 года назад +12

      ALL THAT EXPERIENCE mattered not when just figuring out which engine to SHUT DOWN...WTF?

    • @JustSomeCanuck
      @JustSomeCanuck 4 года назад +7

      I would imagine most of that is up to the pilot. If you're doing something you like, you're likely to want to stay there. That's particularly true for pilots. Switching to a different airplane means getting the new type rating (being certified to pilot the new plane). That takes a couple of years and costs tens of thousands of dollars. They may also have liked doing shorter flights so they could stay closer to their families and not have to spend a lot of time away from home.

  • @magellanmax
    @magellanmax 4 года назад +2

    With so much experience in that cockpit, it's bewildering at the sheer incompetence of those three individuals.

  • @Aviatial
    @Aviatial 4 года назад +16

    Wow, so excited!!

    • @mi___
      @mi___ 4 года назад

      Me too

    • @FadedAir
      @FadedAir 4 года назад +1

      Hello

    • @jabobthegod
      @jabobthegod 4 года назад +1

      come back in 109 minutes thank you

    • @Aviatial
      @Aviatial 4 года назад +1

      Faded Air hi :D

    • @Aviatial
      @Aviatial 4 года назад +1

      SkyLimited now 58 mins

  • @christianandersen6101
    @christianandersen6101 4 года назад +1

    very good, this is a good animation and story, keep it up

  • @creativegirl2474
    @creativegirl2474 3 года назад +5

    The *MOMENT* that wing struck the taxi, i thought the driver and the person being transported were doomed, the when I saw it was still driving...
    *hard exhale*

  • @cerygose7515
    @cerygose7515 4 года назад

    NICE VIDEO THE FLIGHT CHANNEL!!

  • @Maplelust
    @Maplelust 4 года назад +29

    everyone in the comment section
    *yes I'm from tawain and I remember this day. I saw this happen too.*

    • @OshinTorek
      @OshinTorek 4 года назад

      Boris Sheen *Taiwan

    • @Maplelust
      @Maplelust 4 года назад

      @@OshinTorek that was part of the point. I spelled it wrong as a shot at these comments because I'm not buying it.

    • @OshinTorek
      @OshinTorek 4 года назад

      Boris Sheen ah I missed that lol

    • @Maplelust
      @Maplelust 4 года назад

      @@OshinTorek *bows* good luck out there.

    • @Angelica_Rodriguez39
      @Angelica_Rodriguez39 3 года назад

      I mean considering Taipei has 7 mil people and this happened five years ago.... idk what your point is

  • @goodchessactor
    @goodchessactor 3 года назад +1

    I had flying lessons and the first thing I was told was watch your airspeed. Of course that was on a single engine Cessna so it wasn't hard to detect engine failure. However I have seen a lot of these flight videos where the pilots turn off the working engine instead of the failed engine. I could never figure out how that is possible. There are only two engines so it seems to me that it should be easy to identify the non-working engine. But alas there is a reason why a lot of these air accidents are deemed "pilot error".

  • @SuperFerdie1965
    @SuperFerdie1965 4 года назад +8

    Broke my heart. Six empty seats.

  • @Musikur
    @Musikur 3 года назад

    Unbelievable, 30,000 hours between the three people in the cockpit and none of them thought to double check which engine was out, and then the captain, instead of directing the PM and observer to restart the engine, was obviously preoccupied with that rather than flying the plane. This somehow manages to be even worse than Colgan Air