Well… you’d still have to plug in all your information. AI isnt going to just know that, so it would be useless for this application. Not trying to be a troll 😂❤️
The 'diverse range of AI models' idea _sounds_ nice, but in practice it's effectively paying a computer to play paper dolls. You're never going to see a back waist gap, too-short sleeves, fabric pulling across the hips, or any other fit problems specific to a given body type.
and on the other hand real artists are getting less and less engagement... it's crazy... I've already given up on instagram... I post my art there just as a little personal gallery, but I create art for my personal enjoyment... I expect absolutely 0 from that app.
My husband and I are both artists and even before AI, our work was stolen and duped. Now, it's super easy for someone to steal it. It makes me angry that clothing companies are using AI models instead of real people. Bottom line will always be about greed and money. Great video Alexa!
I work in AI, and when talking to clients I'm always telling them the legal issues if they don't have actual people looking over the results. Never just take what the AI does and run with it. It's a tool to use as a base, not a replacement. Get inspiration from it and then make it your own.
as a model, AI models are such a slap in the face. We've been fighting to not get fired for gaining weight or turning 25, advocating for more diversity, and instead of letting us be human beings, they said "fine, here's your diversity. no marginalised groups will be hired or included in the process, we'll just use their image"
Yes! I'm not remotely a model but I know especially disabled models are so rarely chosen to show a diverse range that unfortunately they'll get hired even less. And especially on a visibly disabled body the AI will not be representing the fit accurately. I just say disabled because that's the main diverse thing that I am and what I advocate for. But for literally every body type it's going to show a perfect fit by mapping the clothing onto the body and taking away the jobs from real people.
I don't believe that the ai clothing try on tool will actually help people understand how the clothing looks on their body. The clothing is added in digitally too so they're going to make that look as perfectly fitting as they can. They want everyone to think 'omg I look great in that!' so that as many as possible people will buy their product. I can already see the youtube video's of people trying on the clothing 'Try on! Ai vs reality!'. The clothes will still be low quality, badly tailored and ill fitting. It will just be harder for the customer to figure out what to spend their money on.
I didn't even know A.I. modeling agencies were a thing. I started looking them up and I have to say I am thoroughly creeped out because the "models" look so real. One thing I noticed, too, is despite saying using A.I. models would allow more diversity, etc, all of the ones I saw were not only incredibly good looking, but also didn't look any different than your typical human fashion model. I didn't see any plus size A.I. models or models with disabilities. No older models either. They basically all looked perfect so how is that allowing for diversity?
I personally use AI to find solutions to problems in programming, since I work in IT and also study computer science. It's super useful for this, I wouldn't want to live without it anymore 😄 Recently, we've also had a few lessons on ethics in AI, which is super interesting. In the end, it's always a mirror of humanity, it shows all the prejudices and conceptions of the people who trained it. For the future, it would be very important to make the teams who work on AI as diverse as possible. And for things like copyright (and maybe a mandatory labelling of AI content), we would really need some well thought out laws
@@hayleyannelynch what I said was not about creating diverse images with AI, but about the need for people implementing AI to be more diverse groups, to avoid introducing bias into the system (which is a problem we have at the moment)
Returning items doesn’t and shouldn’t mean the item shouldn’t be resold! Seriously reselling at a discount or just resell period! Thank you for calling this issue out!
The Levi thing is so ridiculous! It's clearly about cutting costs for them imo. They want to be more diverse and have more women see themselves represented by not even using real women at all.... get real Levi! I dislike it when companies try to hide behind 'oh no we're doing this to be socially responsible!' I'm not buying it.
AI vs non-AI art is gonna be like GMO vs organic produce. Non-AI will be more expensive and we will all know it's higher quality, but choosing it over cheaper alternatives won't always be possible. An AI literally can't exist without input data so as far as trend prediction in fashion, there's no way for AI to predict trends without human designers actually making new stuff. It's just going to be about cost and exclusivity in the future.....same as designer vs fast fashion is now, but with a magnifying glass
I’ve gotta say sometimes it’s hard to know if you’re buying something on Etsy that’s not original. Etsy is supposed to be generally original/handmade items, and I’ve definitely been finding things on Etsy lately that I thought were handmade that I also was able to find on Amazon.
As an artist it sucks so much to see AI taking over so much, but I really think it's just a current trend and that the hype will die down eventually. I feel like it might be like how crypto was, but that AI will actually be used as a helpful tool for artists and everyone. It's annoying how people say that artists are the only ones at risk, but it's everyone from drive through workers to doctors and engineers. Almost everyone's job could be replaced by ai in the future, but ai would never do as good of a job I think. Humans love the human touch to things, it makes things valuable. Without human thought or emotion, things don't mean anything, and I think people will start to value that even more in the upcoming years
I don't like the idea of algorithm driven fashion, it really makes it feel as if everyone is dressing the same no matter if they buy from different brands or not.
If a corporation benefits from trash being sold on their website(Amazon and Etsy, for instance) they will not bother to stop it. We've gotten to the point that quality of a brand is second to how many corners they can cut to make more money. It's a side-effect of the expectation that a company can have infinite growth rather than just be profitable. Most of the use of AI that pops up just REEKS of "get in on the ground floor" that we saw with NFT's.
I fell down a rabbit hole of youtube videos where crocheters use AI to write crochet patterns and then they try to crochet them, the outcomes were incredibly funny
Additionally, I handle damaged package claims at work for a mail carrier, and the amount of AI generated photo "evidence" I've seen from people trying to commit fraud is a s t o u n d i n g
@ 23:30 where Koukal describes how they use Midjourney was how I hoped AI would actually work in the art world: a program that you would feed with your own work so you could use it for a quicker workflow. An actual tool, and a very personal one eventually too. But how AI is used now in regards to creative work is probably spearheaded by people who don't do the actual creative work...
As a heads up not all AI art is at risk for copyright claim, just most are. Adobe Firefly is an adobe created ai image generator, and because Adobe holds the rights to a very large image library they were able to train their model with their own library. So if you’re using Adobe’s product or any other service which has been trained on owned library assets, as long as you are paying whatever fee the company requires to use their AI services, you’re not at risk for copyright issues.
I unfollowed Selki after the whole Ai art thing and tbh I hadn't even thought about them since januari until this video. There are so many designers out there and I get that their dresses are very princess like and dreamy but, for me, I learned that it was more of an 'online aesthetic' than anything I actually really wanted. If I had bought a dress from them I'd prob just wear it once and then leave it in the back of the closet.
one thing that is hugely missing from the conversation is that ai is terrible for the environment!! so any company using it is immediately extremely less sustainable. the way ai is trained and the amount of energy it uses takes up a ton of water not to mention the electricity and water that are used to power it after the fact. it so much better for the environment to have real people create art, translate, edit documents, write descriptions, etc. this is why i would never use ai. it not only negatively impacts creative and critical thinking, but also takes finite resources from our wonderful earth. this was so thoughtful alexis, thank you for sharing!
As someone who wants to make their way into the music industry and having a family member in the fine arts and then other family members in sciences, I have strange views on AI. I agree that AI being used in the arts is a lot scarier and a lot harder to do fairly, but like what was said, I do think when done properly and with care can be an incredible tool. But something that they are seeing in large language models like ChatGPT is that they are starting to "use morality." My dad is a doctor and he listens to a lot of podcasts, and their were two different interesting things that he heard on a medical podcast that he listened to, each from different episodes talking about AI and specifically ChatGPT. (podcast i'm talking about is GeriPal) First, the hosts are palliative care doctors that specialize in research. They asked ChatGPT to write an essay/article about a certain topic and when they first read through it they thought it looked beautiful, then when they looked at the cited sources that ChatGPT used and found that it had "hallucinated" some. Including a study that had not happened that ChatGPT had cited that they had done. One point for AI is evil and needs to be stopped, right? Well, when they asked ChatGPT about it, it said that their were holes in the information that was available about the topic and that, that was a study that should be done and that based on the information that it could find, they were the best suited to do that study. They actually agreed. Proving that at least as a tool, that when used is different types of ways, you can find new problems, to find solutions for that we would have never thought of. Second, the hosts of the podcast talked about an article that was written by a completely different type of doctor, about how this a doctor wanted to prove the point that AI was inappropriate and scary to use in the medical field. The test was for ChatGPT to write a letter to higher ups to convince them to let them use a medication for a patient. The patient and whole situation was hypothetical, but ChatGPT didn't know that. The doctor asked it to write a letter asking to use a certain medication to treat a certain medical situation. The medicine in question purposefully being an inappropriate choice for the specific situation. ChatGPT wrote a beautiful letter explaining that even though it had no baring, in the doctor's experience and knowledge, thought it was the right call for specifically that patient and time. In the article the doctor wrote, they said that the fact the ChatGPT wrote the letter proved that it was an unreliable and scary tool to, and that people shouldn't be able to use it in health care. Point humans right? Well, not even a full generation of ChatGPT later, they tried it again to see if anything had changed. Same exact hypothetically that ChatGPT was asked to write a letter for, and of course it didn't know it was hypothetical. Instead of spiting out another letter it said that using that medication for that reason was unethical and it would not write the letter. The doctor's amendment to the article basically said, "oh, maybe it just needed some time," and such. Obviously, much more eloquently. My opinion on AI so far is kinda gray. Now, I for sure don't agree with the taking jobs for people, but using it as a tool to help workers, I so far only see as a positive, as long as it is done right. Also, I don't know if the AI image generators will eventually learn that it shouldn't use copy-written work because it is morally wrong, but we also have to remember that AI is kinda like a super genius child right now, a child that is growing very fast, but a child non-the-less. Children only know what they are taught, and they are gonna do what they are told to the best of their ability. A child prodigy painter would paint you a copy of the Mona Lisa up until the moment that they learn AND understand why it is wrong to do so. In the situation just mentioned the person in the wrong is the person in power, not the child. They have been asked to do something they didn't know was wrong by someone they trusted. The person in power abused that trust and manipulated the situation. Ending with stolen art. If we think about AI that way, it is just doing what it was asked to do. And AI only does what it is programed to do with the data it is give. Give it good data, ie a moral compass, that output could even be better than human. Give it bad data, now we are talking scary town, but there is a person behind all that programing it. The scary thing isn't AI, its people. PS We are trained to fear AI because AI and an ideas was made to represent dictator type leaders post World War II, like Churchill and Truman as well as your obvious bad ones, because Ally power writers didn't want to sound like they were unpatriotic speaking of the negatives of truthfully great leaders that did great things so they put the negative attributes onto a futuristic technology so that no one would notice and draw physical parallels to the Ally leaders that had just done really positive things. Also, not saying that Churchill and Truman were dictators, just that there were similarities to dictators in how they lead. In a time of war, thats actually a positive thing because you want someone in power who thinks enough like the enemy, but different enough to know that they are wrong. Sorry this is so long, I just have lots of opinions and thoughts on this and its all very gray for me. AI is a very complicated issue that has negatives and positives just like most new technologies, but I do think that people in all fields should understand the wins and loses of AI in other fields because that is how we as a whole find solutions to the big questions.
I wish we weren’t in a capitalist hellscape so AI could be used to make our lives easier & make it so we don’t HAVE to work 40hr weeks. Like “take jobs away” so we have more time as a society for leisure, community care, creating art. Not the other way around where it takes from art and artists and still leaves us needing to work 🥲 cool tech should make human lives easier, not help corps profit 🥲
The environmental effects of running AI is what really really concerns me, I don't think ppl who use stuff like chat GBT all the time realize the impact they're having on the planet :(
As someone working in e commerce I can tell ya quality alone won’t fix the return problem. No solution alone will fix that. It needs to be tackled from several angles. Our numbers show that people very very often order several items in different sizes to try them on and send the rest back. So fit is a big issue. Not saying that ai models will change that, just saying that it is quite the issue to not know if what you order will fit you.
I have so much to say, I don't even know where to start. But one thing is that the concept of AI models being good to represent more body sizes/types is such bologna because isn't the AI only predicting what the clothes would look like on that body type? So it's still a gamble!
As a digital artist I'm so appreciative of the points you made in this video! I'm super concerned about my art and others' art being used without my consent to train AI image generation
AI will create clothes like it creates food or recipes. The components will come together in weird and uncomfortable ways but some people will still declare the mediocre outputs as groundbreaking
I’m an artist and work in AI/automation(not image related) and I think the AI Fashion Week is pretty cool. However the AI generated models are such a bad idea, it’s not going to be realistic and if anything will lead to more returns. What could be actually good is if we could upload our measurements and proportions and get the clothing adjusted to fit properly. It would be expensive but could be worth it for those of us with unusual proportions. Totally agree with you about all the ethical and legal issues. In an ideal world we could have both human and AI generated art and have people be fairly compensated for their work and skills. I don’t think the AI tools are inherently bad, but companies are using them unethically and that needs to stop. There are plenty of ethical and creative ways to use the same tools though.
Yes but unless I see the actual item on a model my size I still won’t know how will fit. Because ai is just sizing the clothes to fit the ai model on my body waist might gap thighs to loose etc. the clothes are just going to match the model. If there is a way to make my body perfect so model where the actual clothing stays true to its measurements to show how will fit exactly might work
The whole AI thing is terrifying to me..this coming from a millennial born in 87. I love the internet and new technology but the idea of AI and Virtual reality as well is very scary to me. I keep thinking of the movie ready player one becoming our reality someday, will we all eventually turn into plastic looking zombie copies of each other??
I don't really _make_ art ((i embroider//cros stitch, perler beads, etc)), but i have been duped by ai art at times lmaoo it takes so long to get the right colors, to count out how big you need a project to be and, oftentimes, i am so far into a project that it is a legit waste when i realise it is ai bc 1) embroidery + perler beads take a lot of time to plan out, 2) embroidery and perler beads are vv precise, 3) with embroidery and perler beads, you lose out on the materials ((the beads, the patchment paper, thread, the plastic//fabric canvas, your time)) it sucks bc now you have something that would take either additional hours and work to undo or you wre straight up out of luck and materials :,) and this is as someone who does it for fun and for gifts, which means now i have to find a new plan or give up while a business owner needs to waste time+money+effort to ppssibly compensate their customers
I thought her shirt didn’t say “Hotter than ever” but “Better than love” lol 😂 meaning cake is better than love 😅 I mean I get and understand both phrases tho! ❤🎉😂 🍰 🔥
there is really heated battle between writers, translators and other folks from literatute circle regarding AI. Most of the AI in use now was trained on user's data or on writers' works without user's and writers consent and what now? AI already learned it, without scraping its memory, you cannot take it away from it. Also, have you noticed AI generated songs? It's fruking crazy because there are cases where I CANNOT say with confidence if it is or not made by AI. I am watching channels from various topics, music, books, art, fashion... and one after another, content creators are making videos about AI and it's depressing and hopefull at the same time. AI can help us big time, even with more art related stuff. Writers can brainstorm plot with it, in visual art, AI can take care of background stuff that is even now done with stock images, in music, it can help with time spend on creation of it... The cat is out of the bag. Now we need to make laws that will protect artists, AI is not gonna go away, not with so much money invested into it. But as others, I wish it could help us with mundane, boring stuff first and don't take away our passion for life.
great video!! :D i'm super scared of ai cause im a pretty gullible person (workin on it though!) so whenever i hear that ai is involved in something, it puts me off. i am dyslexic so i keep getting recommended that i use chatgpt but i, personally, dont feel comfortable with having a computer make writing decisions for me lol, i want it to be my own work in my own words!
watching all these AI thing grows it's the same as watching a car accident you know how bad it will ends but still the only thing you can do is watch it since that's no way to stop it
i discovered your chanel 1 month ago and ive been watching your videos everyday. i love your videos so much and your style is chef kiss. love you girl dont stop making videos ever!!!!❤☺
Can you tell me more about the problem with Selkie using non-copyrighted art as the base? I thought that there are art that are non-copyrighted for multiple reasons, eg the duration of copyright had ran out. In that case, anyone can use said art however they want, right?
How about we just treat fashion AI like automotive AI. Just because your car drives itself does NOT mean you should take a nap! Just because the fashion industry pushes AI on us (even without our knowledge) does NOT mean you shouldn’t tap the brakes and take a look in the mirror or give something a second thought. Question…How do we remedy this? As consumers we are the most influential in both the purchasing and trend cycles. As a whole we are irresponsible, entitled people. The fast fashion brands exist because the masses want the same access to clothing and designs as the target clientele of high fashion brands. A celebrity is seen wearing mesh ballet flats from a luxury brand and everyone and their mom are selling them. Everyone gets tired of seeing their cool outfit on every outing and every IG post (Pumpkin Spice Latte anyone?) so it loses its appeal. Donate, landfill, resell…and it begins again. I think what you do is important Alexa. I have changed my shopping habits watching you, Karina, Carrie, and others. I’m more likely to buy locally, if I need something I try to thrift, and I try to keep my purchases to a minimum….this coming from an almost-50 shopaholic. I also think people don’t learn to sew their own clothing like they used to. I could go on and on….GREAT VIDEO❤
This is only a good comparison if you’re thinking about driver assist, which was never put to market with the intent of the driver being out of the loop. Currently there are multiple companies fielding cars with no human driver in the loop. Likely, unless there is strong legislation to curb their increasing numbers, driverless cars will continue becoming increasingly common. Not saying that your point is incorrect, just that your comparison point does not work well.
I have purchased from finesse and it’s so hit or miss with the quality and sizing. They have very trendy pieces 100% but it’s not worth it, and not good material at all
As an artist AI makes me so sad, especially when people use ai generated images without thinking about where the original art came from. I always hear people defending it, even at my job praising it and I'm just so tired of it. So thank you for giving a understandable view on the subject
I loveeeee Harriet and meant to say her name! 😭 I think because I was trying to remember to say specifically her username that I ended up accidentally just saying somebody when I was filming 💔
Honestly? If AI does in some way contribute to change the same awful clothes that have been in stores for the past decade then yes I have no problem with it.
25:04 The clothes on this site are definitely clothes stolen from existing ideas of designers, I'm sure I've seen most of them and it's sad that the original designer suffers , he doesn't even get credit for his creativity because the AI seems to produce something "new"
My view on AI art (or really just AI in general) is that it depends on whether or not you plan to monetize what the AI creates and how much human input you contribute to the final product. I think if someone were to use AI art just to play around with it and not share it on the internet, or they recreate what the AI gives them with their own tools and skills, that would be completely fine! But if you then take what the AI creates and you try to post it on the internet and/or earn a profit, THAT is a problem because you are functionally stealing and trying to profit off of stealing. Especially if you don’t do much to edit and personalize the final product.
Had to pause video to ask: Isn't using chat GPT for social media posts completely defeating the purpose of communicating and connecting with other people? Like you're literally outsourcing social interactions/announcements to a computer program. I know a lot of social media posts don't have to be exactly deep dives into the human psyche but this feels really weird and dystopian to me. We can't even be bothered to know a product well enough to describe it for a listing on eBay? We can't be bothered to actually write a meaningful social media post? This isn't going to do anything good for our brains. Spell check has already made me lazy and I fight against it as much as I can because I used to be an amazing speller and now I doubt myself unless I spell check it. If we use chat GPT and things like that to actually write articles for us, at some point we're going to lose the ability to write our own things, and that is exactly the premise of those movies where robots took over 😬🤷.
I think Levis has an amazing idea! I'd love to see myself on the pictures for clothes vs. some random people. Diversity for the sake of diversity doesn't help anyone. They are a company that needs to sell things not to take care of models.
I never heard so much wrong information in one video!!! First off AI doesn't scrape the web for images! The person or company that made the model did! Second, chances are big that if you clicked "I AGREE" which is inevitable when signing up for any website now days chances are pretty big that somewhere there is a whole clause dedicated that says something along the lines of: "By agreeing to our terms and conditions you give us the permission to use, re-use, edit, distribute and redistribute of the data that you produce/we can gather about you... including but not limited the pictures you upload, and other identifiers we can find/you give us..." Third Not all models are made from copyrighted material.... and everything that you can turn into bits and bytes can be turned into models.... AI isn't intelligent and it will never be! it is merely a buzzword for machine learning algorithms that process data given on the input! It may seem like intelligence because it can mimic human behaviour but that is only because it had examples of that behaviour and is trained and conditioned to act a certain way... 4. If you think generated pictures are "Art" it is time to re-evaluate your perspective on the word "Art" 5. It can be Art depending on how you look at it but just because it looks "cool" it doesn't mean it is art! 6. AI IS JUST ANOTHER BUZZWORD AS SUSTAINABILITY IS!!!! JUST BECAUSE THE TEXT SAYS SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THE PRODUCT IS DURABLE OR SUSTAINABLE!!! IT IS BECAUSE PUTTING THAT WORD THERE MAKES THE PRODUCT SELL!!!!!
why do you think it's ok to criticise people you don't know on the internet? Everyone speaks differently because we're all individuals. If you don't like it, you don't have to watch. Do you expect someone to just change the whole way they speak just to please some random person?
I hate the fact that we’re using ai to create art instead of using ai to free up time for humans to make art. Like it’s so backwards 😭😭
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let's do both
Art is such a human thing, why can't AI do our taxes or something
Well… you’d still have to plug in all your information. AI isnt going to just know that, so it would be useless for this application. Not trying to be a troll 😂❤️
The 'diverse range of AI models' idea _sounds_ nice, but in practice it's effectively paying a computer to play paper dolls. You're never going to see a back waist gap, too-short sleeves, fabric pulling across the hips, or any other fit problems specific to a given body type.
Excellent point
I miss the old Etsy when only original art was allowed to be sold there. I used to spend tons of money on handmade jewelry and art prints.
I am so over the insane use of Ai, it is so frustrating to try and look at art, or literally anything on instagram and half of it is Ai.
and on the other hand real artists are getting less and less engagement... it's crazy... I've already given up on instagram... I post my art there just as a little personal gallery, but I create art for my personal enjoyment... I expect absolutely 0 from that app.
Right!! It’s taking over it’s terrifying
My husband and I are both artists and even before AI, our work was stolen and duped. Now, it's super easy for someone to steal it. It makes me angry that clothing companies are using AI models instead of real people. Bottom line will always be about greed and money. Great video Alexa!
I work in AI, and when talking to clients I'm always telling them the legal issues if they don't have actual people looking over the results. Never just take what the AI does and run with it.
It's a tool to use as a base, not a replacement. Get inspiration from it and then make it your own.
this is a stop gap.
in the future it'll be "perfect".
Yes absolutely, it can be a wonderful tool, but not a replacement for doing any of the actual work!
as a model, AI models are such a slap in the face. We've been fighting to not get fired for gaining weight or turning 25, advocating for more diversity, and instead of letting us be human beings, they said "fine, here's your diversity. no marginalised groups will be hired or included in the process, we'll just use their image"
Yes! I'm not remotely a model but I know especially disabled models are so rarely chosen to show a diverse range that unfortunately they'll get hired even less. And especially on a visibly disabled body the AI will not be representing the fit accurately. I just say disabled because that's the main diverse thing that I am and what I advocate for. But for literally every body type it's going to show a perfect fit by mapping the clothing onto the body and taking away the jobs from real people.
I don't believe that the ai clothing try on tool will actually help people understand how the clothing looks on their body. The clothing is added in digitally too so they're going to make that look as perfectly fitting as they can. They want everyone to think 'omg I look great in that!' so that as many as possible people will buy their product.
I can already see the youtube video's of people trying on the clothing 'Try on! Ai vs reality!'.
The clothes will still be low quality, badly tailored and ill fitting. It will just be harder for the customer to figure out what to spend their money on.
Agreed. But I do like ai makeup try on up to a point, combined with the fact that I already know my color season
I didn't even know A.I. modeling agencies were a thing. I started looking them up and I have to say I am thoroughly creeped out because the "models" look so real. One thing I noticed, too, is despite saying using A.I. models would allow more diversity, etc, all of the ones I saw were not only incredibly good looking, but also didn't look any different than your typical human fashion model. I didn't see any plus size A.I. models or models with disabilities. No older models either. They basically all looked perfect so how is that allowing for diversity?
They all looked the same cause they aren't models. Uhg I hate AI so much
The worst thing about the fashion show is that using free labor to brain storm how they can profit off of AI
I personally use AI to find solutions to problems in programming, since I work in IT and also study computer science. It's super useful for this, I wouldn't want to live without it anymore 😄 Recently, we've also had a few lessons on ethics in AI, which is super interesting. In the end, it's always a mirror of humanity, it shows all the prejudices and conceptions of the people who trained it. For the future, it would be very important to make the teams who work on AI as diverse as possible. And for things like copyright (and maybe a mandatory labelling of AI content), we would really need some well thought out laws
@@hayleyannelynch what I said was not about creating diverse images with AI, but about the need for people implementing AI to be more diverse groups, to avoid introducing bias into the system (which is a problem we have at the moment)
Returning items doesn’t and shouldn’t mean the item shouldn’t be resold! Seriously reselling at a discount or just resell period! Thank you for calling this issue out!
The Levi thing is so ridiculous! It's clearly about cutting costs for them imo.
They want to be more diverse and have more women see themselves represented by not even using real women at all.... get real Levi! I dislike it when companies try to hide behind 'oh no we're doing this to be socially responsible!'
I'm not buying it.
AI vs non-AI art is gonna be like GMO vs organic produce. Non-AI will be more expensive and we will all know it's higher quality, but choosing it over cheaper alternatives won't always be possible. An AI literally can't exist without input data so as far as trend prediction in fashion, there's no way for AI to predict trends without human designers actually making new stuff. It's just going to be about cost and exclusivity in the future.....same as designer vs fast fashion is now, but with a magnifying glass
I’ve gotta say sometimes it’s hard to know if you’re buying something on Etsy that’s not original. Etsy is supposed to be generally original/handmade items, and I’ve definitely been finding things on Etsy lately that I thought were handmade that I also was able to find on Amazon.
As an artist it sucks so much to see AI taking over so much, but I really think it's just a current trend and that the hype will die down eventually. I feel like it might be like how crypto was, but that AI will actually be used as a helpful tool for artists and everyone. It's annoying how people say that artists are the only ones at risk, but it's everyone from drive through workers to doctors and engineers. Almost everyone's job could be replaced by ai in the future, but ai would never do as good of a job I think. Humans love the human touch to things, it makes things valuable. Without human thought or emotion, things don't mean anything, and I think people will start to value that even more in the upcoming years
yeah the levi’s “we just want to offer more body types” is absolute bs. there is a model in every color, size, and shape looking for work.
girl i just can't believe we automated art and design before we automated hard labor
I don't like the idea of algorithm driven fashion, it really makes it feel as if everyone is dressing the same no matter if they buy from different brands or not.
If a corporation benefits from trash being sold on their website(Amazon and Etsy, for instance) they will not bother to stop it. We've gotten to the point that quality of a brand is second to how many corners they can cut to make more money. It's a side-effect of the expectation that a company can have infinite growth rather than just be profitable. Most of the use of AI that pops up just REEKS of "get in on the ground floor" that we saw with NFT's.
I fell down a rabbit hole of youtube videos where crocheters use AI to write crochet patterns and then they try to crochet them, the outcomes were incredibly funny
Additionally, I handle damaged package claims at work for a mail carrier, and the amount of AI generated photo "evidence" I've seen from people trying to commit fraud is a s t o u n d i n g
You're right! Shein has been using AI to figure it the next trends, it's laughable that anyone would call that a sustainable business model
@ 23:30 where Koukal describes how they use Midjourney was how I hoped AI would actually work in the art world: a program that you would feed with your own work so you could use it for a quicker workflow. An actual tool, and a very personal one eventually too.
But how AI is used now in regards to creative work is probably spearheaded by people who don't do the actual creative work...
As a heads up not all AI art is at risk for copyright claim, just most are. Adobe Firefly is an adobe created ai image generator, and because Adobe holds the rights to a very large image library they were able to train their model with their own library. So if you’re using Adobe’s product or any other service which has been trained on owned library assets, as long as you are paying whatever fee the company requires to use their AI services, you’re not at risk for copyright issues.
I unfollowed Selki after the whole Ai art thing and tbh I hadn't even thought about them since januari until this video. There are so many designers out there and I get that their dresses are very princess like and dreamy but, for me, I learned that it was more of an 'online aesthetic' than anything I actually really wanted. If I had bought a dress from them I'd prob just wear it once and then leave it in the back of the closet.
one thing that is hugely missing from the conversation is that ai is terrible for the environment!! so any company using it is immediately extremely less sustainable. the way ai is trained and the amount of energy it uses takes up a ton of water not to mention the electricity and water that are used to power it after the fact. it so much better for the environment to have real people create art, translate, edit documents, write descriptions, etc. this is why i would never use ai. it not only negatively impacts creative and critical thinking, but also takes finite resources from our wonderful earth. this was so thoughtful alexis, thank you for sharing!
As someone who wants to make their way into the music industry and having a family member in the fine arts and then other family members in sciences, I have strange views on AI. I agree that AI being used in the arts is a lot scarier and a lot harder to do fairly, but like what was said, I do think when done properly and with care can be an incredible tool. But something that they are seeing in large language models like ChatGPT is that they are starting to "use morality."
My dad is a doctor and he listens to a lot of podcasts, and their were two different interesting things that he heard on a medical podcast that he listened to, each from different episodes talking about AI and specifically ChatGPT. (podcast i'm talking about is GeriPal)
First, the hosts are palliative care doctors that specialize in research. They asked ChatGPT to write an essay/article about a certain topic and when they first read through it they thought it looked beautiful, then when they looked at the cited sources that ChatGPT used and found that it had "hallucinated" some. Including a study that had not happened that ChatGPT had cited that they had done. One point for AI is evil and needs to be stopped, right? Well, when they asked ChatGPT about it, it said that their were holes in the information that was available about the topic and that, that was a study that should be done and that based on the information that it could find, they were the best suited to do that study. They actually agreed. Proving that at least as a tool, that when used is different types of ways, you can find new problems, to find solutions for that we would have never thought of.
Second, the hosts of the podcast talked about an article that was written by a completely different type of doctor, about how this a doctor wanted to prove the point that AI was inappropriate and scary to use in the medical field. The test was for ChatGPT to write a letter to higher ups to convince them to let them use a medication for a patient. The patient and whole situation was hypothetical, but ChatGPT didn't know that. The doctor asked it to write a letter asking to use a certain medication to treat a certain medical situation. The medicine in question purposefully being an inappropriate choice for the specific situation. ChatGPT wrote a beautiful letter explaining that even though it had no baring, in the doctor's experience and knowledge, thought it was the right call for specifically that patient and time. In the article the doctor wrote, they said that the fact the ChatGPT wrote the letter proved that it was an unreliable and scary tool to, and that people shouldn't be able to use it in health care. Point humans right? Well, not even a full generation of ChatGPT later, they tried it again to see if anything had changed. Same exact hypothetically that ChatGPT was asked to write a letter for, and of course it didn't know it was hypothetical. Instead of spiting out another letter it said that using that medication for that reason was unethical and it would not write the letter. The doctor's amendment to the article basically said, "oh, maybe it just needed some time," and such. Obviously, much more eloquently.
My opinion on AI so far is kinda gray. Now, I for sure don't agree with the taking jobs for people, but using it as a tool to help workers, I so far only see as a positive, as long as it is done right. Also, I don't know if the AI image generators will eventually learn that it shouldn't use copy-written work because it is morally wrong, but we also have to remember that AI is kinda like a super genius child right now, a child that is growing very fast, but a child non-the-less. Children only know what they are taught, and they are gonna do what they are told to the best of their ability. A child prodigy painter would paint you a copy of the Mona Lisa up until the moment that they learn AND understand why it is wrong to do so. In the situation just mentioned the person in the wrong is the person in power, not the child. They have been asked to do something they didn't know was wrong by someone they trusted. The person in power abused that trust and manipulated the situation. Ending with stolen art. If we think about AI that way, it is just doing what it was asked to do. And AI only does what it is programed to do with the data it is give. Give it good data, ie a moral compass, that output could even be better than human. Give it bad data, now we are talking scary town, but there is a person behind all that programing it. The scary thing isn't AI, its people.
PS We are trained to fear AI because AI and an ideas was made to represent dictator type leaders post World War II, like Churchill and Truman as well as your obvious bad ones, because Ally power writers didn't want to sound like they were unpatriotic speaking of the negatives of truthfully great leaders that did great things so they put the negative attributes onto a futuristic technology so that no one would notice and draw physical parallels to the Ally leaders that had just done really positive things. Also, not saying that Churchill and Truman were dictators, just that there were similarities to dictators in how they lead. In a time of war, thats actually a positive thing because you want someone in power who thinks enough like the enemy, but different enough to know that they are wrong.
Sorry this is so long, I just have lots of opinions and thoughts on this and its all very gray for me. AI is a very complicated issue that has negatives and positives just like most new technologies, but I do think that people in all fields should understand the wins and loses of AI in other fields because that is how we as a whole find solutions to the big questions.
Good discussion. I do love Etsy, but I mostly buy vintage clothes from there. If I'm going to buy art, it's from a local gallery or show usually.
I wish we weren’t in a capitalist hellscape so AI could be used to make our lives easier & make it so we don’t HAVE to work 40hr weeks. Like “take jobs away” so we have more time as a society for leisure, community care, creating art. Not the other way around where it takes from art and artists and still leaves us needing to work 🥲 cool tech should make human lives easier, not help corps profit 🥲
AI is creepy and can’t convince me we are better off with it. Give me a real human anyday. It’s a dangerous line.
The environmental effects of running AI is what really really concerns me, I don't think ppl who use stuff like chat GBT all the time realize the impact they're having on the planet :(
As someone working in e commerce I can tell ya quality alone won’t fix the return problem. No solution alone will fix that. It needs to be tackled from several angles. Our numbers show that people very very often order several items in different sizes to try them on and send the rest back. So fit is a big issue. Not saying that ai models will change that, just saying that it is quite the issue to not know if what you order will fit you.
I have so much to say, I don't even know where to start. But one thing is that the concept of AI models being good to represent more body sizes/types is such bologna because isn't the AI only predicting what the clothes would look like on that body type? So it's still a gamble!
As a digital artist I'm so appreciative of the points you made in this video! I'm super concerned about my art and others' art being used without my consent to train AI image generation
AI will create clothes like it creates food or recipes. The components will come together in weird and uncomfortable ways but some people will still declare the mediocre outputs as groundbreaking
I’m an artist and work in AI/automation(not image related) and I think the AI Fashion Week is pretty cool. However the AI generated models are such a bad idea, it’s not going to be realistic and if anything will lead to more returns. What could be actually good is if we could upload our measurements and proportions and get the clothing adjusted to fit properly. It would be expensive but could be worth it for those of us with unusual proportions.
Totally agree with you about all the ethical and legal issues. In an ideal world we could have both human and AI generated art and have people be fairly compensated for their work and skills. I don’t think the AI tools are inherently bad, but companies are using them unethically and that needs to stop. There are plenty of ethical and creative ways to use the same tools though.
I would kill for brands to do more made to measure stuff.
That tee shirt is super cute 🤧🤧
As a struggling artist, the rise of AI "artists" have been so frustrating to see. 😖
Alexa!!! This was such a good video! I've really enjoyed these more 'video-essay' type uploads you've been doing recently
Yes but unless I see the actual item on a model my size I still won’t know how will fit. Because ai is just sizing the clothes to fit the ai model on my body waist might gap thighs to loose etc. the clothes are just going to match the model. If there is a way to make my body perfect so model where the actual clothing stays true to its measurements to show how will fit exactly might work
YOU CAN'T PUT A PHYSICAL GARMENT ON AN AI MODEL!! It should count as false advertising!
The whole AI thing is terrifying to me..this coming from a millennial born in 87. I love the internet and new technology but the idea of AI and Virtual reality as well is very scary to me. I keep thinking of the movie ready player one becoming our reality someday, will we all eventually turn into plastic looking zombie copies of each other??
Plot twist; you wrote the script for this video in AI
i despiseeeeee AI! im so glad to hear your thoughtful analysis on this :)
I don't really _make_ art ((i embroider//cros stitch, perler beads, etc)), but i have been duped by ai art at times lmaoo
it takes so long to get the right colors, to count out how big you need a project to be and, oftentimes, i am so far into a project that it is a legit waste when i realise it is ai bc 1) embroidery + perler beads take a lot of time to plan out, 2) embroidery and perler beads are vv precise, 3) with embroidery and perler beads, you lose out on the materials ((the beads, the patchment paper, thread, the plastic//fabric canvas, your time))
it sucks bc now you have something that would take either additional hours and work to undo or you wre straight up out of luck and materials :,)
and this is as someone who does it for fun and for gifts, which means now i have to find a new plan or give up while a business owner needs to waste time+money+effort to ppssibly compensate their customers
I thought her shirt didn’t say “Hotter than ever” but “Better than love” lol 😂 meaning cake is better than love 😅 I mean I get and understand both phrases tho! ❤🎉😂 🍰 🔥
not me getting an adobe AI ad before this video 🤪
Oh my gosh! 😅
Ai images are literally the opposite of diversity- it just generates the average of all images fed to it that meet the prompt requirements
absolutely was not expecting a kurtis and drew reference here, i love
originally said danny and drew 😭
there is really heated battle between writers, translators and other folks from literatute circle regarding AI. Most of the AI in use now was trained on user's data or on writers' works without user's and writers consent and what now? AI already learned it, without scraping its memory, you cannot take it away from it.
Also, have you noticed AI generated songs? It's fruking crazy because there are cases where I CANNOT say with confidence if it is or not made by AI.
I am watching channels from various topics, music, books, art, fashion... and one after another, content creators are making videos about AI and it's depressing and hopefull at the same time.
AI can help us big time, even with more art related stuff. Writers can brainstorm plot with it, in visual art, AI can take care of background stuff that is even now done with stock images, in music, it can help with time spend on creation of it...
The cat is out of the bag. Now we need to make laws that will protect artists, AI is not gonna go away, not with so much money invested into it.
But as others, I wish it could help us with mundane, boring stuff first and don't take away our passion for life.
great video!! :D i'm super scared of ai cause im a pretty gullible person (workin on it though!) so whenever i hear that ai is involved in something, it puts me off. i am dyslexic so i keep getting recommended that i use chatgpt but i, personally, dont feel comfortable with having a computer make writing decisions for me lol, i want it to be my own work in my own words!
watching all these AI thing grows it's the same as watching a car accident
you know how bad it will ends but still the only thing you can do is watch it since that's no way to stop it
i discovered your chanel 1 month ago and ive been watching your videos everyday. i love your videos so much and your style is chef kiss. love you girl dont stop making videos ever!!!!❤☺
Can you tell me more about the problem with Selkie using non-copyrighted art as the base? I thought that there are art that are non-copyrighted for multiple reasons, eg the duration of copyright had ran out. In that case, anyone can use said art however they want, right?
Alexa, I'm really enjoying these types of commentary videos. Very interesting and I appreciate the thought and research that goes into it.
my open wardrobe AI outfit recs have been soooooo bad... I'd rather employ someone bc gosh dang it is so bad.
What a great video Alexa! So fascinating
Ai art is non copyrighted, in fact, its non copyrightable.
How about we just treat fashion AI like automotive AI. Just because your car drives itself does NOT mean you should take a nap! Just because the fashion industry pushes AI on us (even without our knowledge) does NOT mean you shouldn’t tap the brakes and take a look in the mirror or give something a second thought.
Question…How do we remedy this? As consumers we are the most influential in both the purchasing and trend cycles. As a whole we are irresponsible, entitled people. The fast fashion brands exist because the masses want the same access to clothing and designs as the target clientele of high fashion brands. A celebrity is seen wearing mesh ballet flats from a luxury brand and everyone and their mom are selling them. Everyone gets tired of seeing their cool outfit on every outing and every IG post (Pumpkin Spice Latte anyone?) so it loses its appeal. Donate, landfill, resell…and it begins again.
I think what you do is important Alexa. I have changed my shopping habits watching you, Karina, Carrie, and others. I’m more likely to buy locally, if I need something I try to thrift, and I try to keep my purchases to a minimum….this coming from an almost-50 shopaholic. I also think people don’t learn to sew their own clothing like they used to. I could go on and on….GREAT VIDEO❤
This is only a good comparison if you’re thinking about driver assist, which was never put to market with the intent of the driver being out of the loop. Currently there are multiple companies fielding cars with no human driver in the loop. Likely, unless there is strong legislation to curb their increasing numbers, driverless cars will continue becoming increasingly common. Not saying that your point is incorrect, just that your comparison point does not work well.
@@annw7843 ok…not really the point of my post but that’s interesting.
I saw the AI talk in general and AI art controversy, but didn't encounter AI in fashion! Interesting.
I have purchased from finesse and it’s so hit or miss with the quality and sizing. They have very trendy pieces 100% but it’s not worth it, and not good material at all
As an artist AI makes me so sad, especially when people use ai generated images without thinking about where the original art came from.
I always hear people defending it, even at my job praising it and I'm just so tired of it. So thank you for giving a understandable view on the subject
ai seems unethical in so many ways, especially the way it steals from artists
2:25 SOMEBODY? Respect Harriet's name!!
I loveeeee Harriet and meant to say her name! 😭 I think because I was trying to remember to say specifically her username that I ended up accidentally just saying somebody when I was filming 💔
It was the same when computers and Internet arrived. It's inevitable and we'll have to adapt
I love your videos so much every time Alexa, thank you ❤
Honestly? If AI does in some way contribute to change the same awful clothes that have been in stores for the past decade then yes I have no problem with it.
Happy Sunday funday Alexa sunshine mandy
25:04 The clothes on this site are definitely clothes stolen from existing ideas of designers, I'm sure I've seen most of them and it's sad that the original designer suffers , he doesn't even get credit for his creativity because the AI seems to produce something "new"
Good morning Alexa happy Sunday morning and I loved your vlogs and you are amazing Supporter and I'm proud of you
Yay! an upload from alexa 🙌
Beautiful huge fluffy kitty stealing focus!!
Yes
Be wary of AI
How far away from humans do you all need to be
My view on AI art (or really just AI in general) is that it depends on whether or not you plan to monetize what the AI creates and how much human input you contribute to the final product. I think if someone were to use AI art just to play around with it and not share it on the internet, or they recreate what the AI gives them with their own tools and skills, that would be completely fine! But if you then take what the AI creates and you try to post it on the internet and/or earn a profit, THAT is a problem because you are functionally stealing and trying to profit off of stealing. Especially if you don’t do much to edit and personalize the final product.
Reminds me of the sims.
Had to pause video to ask: Isn't using chat GPT for social media posts completely defeating the purpose of communicating and connecting with other people? Like you're literally outsourcing social interactions/announcements to a computer program. I know a lot of social media posts don't have to be exactly deep dives into the human psyche but this feels really weird and dystopian to me. We can't even be bothered to know a product well enough to describe it for a listing on eBay? We can't be bothered to actually write a meaningful social media post? This isn't going to do anything good for our brains. Spell check has already made me lazy and I fight against it as much as I can because I used to be an amazing speller and now I doubt myself unless I spell check it. If we use chat GPT and things like that to actually write articles for us, at some point we're going to lose the ability to write our own things, and that is exactly the premise of those movies where robots took over 😬🤷.
Very interesting video. I would love to see a few more videos on this topic if you are interested in making them 🌼
not selkie 😭
I really don't like ai
I think Levis has an amazing idea! I'd love to see myself on the pictures for clothes vs. some random people. Diversity for the sake of diversity doesn't help anyone. They are a company that needs to sell things not to take care of models.
I never heard so much wrong information in one video!!!
First off AI doesn't scrape the web for images! The person or company that made the model did!
Second, chances are big that if you clicked "I AGREE" which is inevitable when signing up for any website now days chances are pretty big that somewhere there is a whole clause dedicated that says something along the lines of: "By agreeing to our terms and conditions you give us the permission to use, re-use, edit, distribute and redistribute of the data that you produce/we can gather about you... including but not limited the pictures you upload, and other identifiers we can find/you give us..."
Third Not all models are made from copyrighted material.... and everything that you can turn into bits and bytes can be turned into models....
AI isn't intelligent and it will never be! it is merely a buzzword for machine learning algorithms that process data given on the input! It may seem like intelligence because it can mimic human behaviour but that is only because it had examples of that behaviour and is trained and conditioned to act a certain way...
4. If you think generated pictures are "Art" it is time to re-evaluate your perspective on the word "Art"
5. It can be Art depending on how you look at it but just because it looks "cool" it doesn't mean it is art!
6. AI IS JUST ANOTHER BUZZWORD AS SUSTAINABILITY IS!!!! JUST BECAUSE THE TEXT SAYS SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THE PRODUCT IS DURABLE OR SUSTAINABLE!!! IT IS BECAUSE PUTTING THAT WORD THERE MAKES THE PRODUCT SELL!!!!!
All you people have watched way too many movies
why do you talk soooo slowly, it's really annoying
It doesn’t seem like this channel is for you
You could always listen at 1.5 or 2x speed
why do you think it's ok to criticise people you don't know on the internet? Everyone speaks differently because we're all individuals. If you don't like it, you don't have to watch. Do you expect someone to just change the whole way they speak just to please some random person?
I love these kind of educational videos with your personal view on the matter!! 🫶