This Trade Changes Everything...
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- One of the biggest trades in NHL history just went down, sending one of the league's top players, Mikko Rantanen, to a new team. But what does this mean for the teams involved-and the league as a whole?
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This has gotta be the biggest trade since the tkachuk one
Bigger
Facts.
@@SteveEaglesnah the tkachuk trade was definitely bigger. Recency bias
@@Grasser88hmmm.. Huberdeau was always overrated.
@@Grasser88 you high af, i like it
You're given Necas far less credit then he deserves. Calling him just a solid above average player is flat out wrong.
Well lookin' at his carrier hes been average/just above average :)
@@dejjag True but if you really watch hockey Necas is more than that ;)(
Lol how? Because he is not a star..
@ I take it you've never actually watched him play. His IQ is absolutely off the charts. Clutch as hell too. if you look at every overtime goal for carolina the past 2 years I would wager about 1/3rd of all of them were scored by Necas.
He's a solid and above average compared to Rantanen who is an actual amazing player. They aren't on the same level so
Watched a pod with Taylor Hall, he said hawks did him a solid. He wanted to go to a cup team and they weren’t going to haggle. With Chicagos season is done, and canes have a great cap situation, one of very few suitors who have the cash and the Stanley cup potential.
Seemed like a better pick was in order. Deal is done.
Man, if only the Blackhawks had a first overall pick guy who was able to bring success to the franchise and be a leader for a long time to provide guidance to their young Bedard. #88
they just need an early first round pick(s) that can game the same way as bedard. screw patrick kane he ditched the team when they needed him the most which in turn gave them bedard.
@@janzkeeChicago didn’t extent Kane an offer. He didn’t ditch them, they ditched him.
@@cptbluehawk57yes, they def ditch kane. Hawks basically told him we are done with you. Why wouldn't an organization want the best American player ever to finish their career with them?
@@janzkeewhat are you smoking my guy? Check the facts right next time
@@thefamilymans2545 embracing the rebuild I guess
Necas is going to prove that he can
YES
Avs fan here. I'm more upset about the team lying about Gabe Landeskog. He's NOT playing ever again. No captain on the ice for 3 years now.
Not to mention his contract fucking over the boys, but he has the audacity to say others should take a pay cut...
Think so? Dang.
I also think that he retires this off season. His knee will never be the same. He won't be able to play and they are just dragging out the inevitable. So once he retires and Mikko goes to market after the season maybe the Avs can pick up Mikko again.
You're right. Stop giving us hope. Gabe can skate but gets a set back.. now he can skate again, and gets a set back.. Just sad. Give the C to Nate and move on.
And why is nichuskin still on team that man is bomb that can blow up anytime and usually when it matters😭
As a Colorado fan this trade is brutal. But I agree with the management decision not to pay mikko. With Cale’s contract extension soon, the avs would be wayyyyy too top heavy and I don’t know if we’d truly win a cup that way. We won’t know if this is a truly a good trade or not for at least a year I think.
That's fair, but you guys wont win any cups without Ranta either so I guess it all balance out :) could have him retire as a legend but the management rolled the dice :D if the Wings don't make the dance I for sure will be rooting for the Canes
@@dejjagall these flavors
@@Ozero300I don’t think my comment ever said the words “I am ok with this trade.” Like most avs fans, I’m pretty pissed mikko could still be an av and taken his 11.75 a year. He or his agent clearly did not think that was a hometown deal. Nonetheless I understand and accept the position management was in and what they felt they needed to do. Regardless, I’ll gladly hit post on this comment 10 min away from Pepsi.
@ bro he’s not a center, it’s as simple as that. He isn’t worth anything past 12.
@@Ozero300 please go look at the avs lines and contracts when they won the cup. They were most definitely not top heavy🫡
Avs didn't want to be the mapleleafs version 2.0
This. More than anything.
Chicago 💀
As noted in the vid Rantanen is outstanding in the playoffs. That makes him top 5 in the league imo.
He's gonna go to whoever gives him the most money
If Rantanen gets that finish connection with Aho like the good ol days, I think management will be handing him a hearty and long contract. They've (GMET) shown that they will get what they want, and know how to do it.
By 2030 Chicago will be one of the best teams in the league by tanking for James hagens and already having great young players
As a cane fan, I love the trade but hate to see Neacs and Drury leave. But it has passed us now and I think the two "less important" guys that got traded are doing pretty well with their new teams. Drury already has two goals for Avs and Hall has a point for Carolina and has looked pretty good in his line. (Yes I know Mikko also has a point for canes). I'm not saying Mikko nor Neacs won't do good I'm just saying Drury and Hall have done a little better so far, and it's also really early.
Necas - with his 4 Apples - is the best asset
@@CoachMacdaddy While being -4 +/- xD suuuure bud
@@CoachMacdaddy Ranta is +2 btw, just wanted to let you know :)
@@dejjag +/- is the most important stat to you? Why???? You know Crosby is like leading the league in negative and he's still a great player lol ur explaining should be fun kid (also before the games((and my comment))last night, necas was in first)
Strč si Rantanena do zadku 😅@@dejjag
Avs didn't want to put themselves in the same position as Toronto.
But that exactly what they did, no more cups for like 30+ years :D
@@dejjag S a l t
Any person that isn’t a casual knows hawks got a normal return “not fleeced”
They got their own third back bro absolutely got fleeced
@ Taylor hall on his own is worth a 5-6th lmao, not to mention we got hall and Foligno in a dump for free anyway
Hawks didn’t get much, but they didn’t give up much either. Taylor Hall is an average player who had his chances with Bedard and never took advantage of them. It’s arguable that the Hawks are a better team today than they were before the trade was made. The former MVP tag is doing a lot of public heavy lifting in this myth that the Hawks got fleeced.
Maybe Hall wasn't the problem? maybe "the next one" wasn't the answer at all? Instead the next... well Hall lol
blackhawks? I'm pretty sure it's the Chicago Bedard's
Hahaha that's the team I know!
It's easy to forget that Rantanen wouldn't be the same without MC Kinnon.
Draisaitle is definitely just as good without MC David.
Paying Rantanen the same as Draisaitle nah...
Necas will overtake Rantenen in points by seasons end. Playing with Mackinnon, Makar, and 6 more minutes per game is huge!
I’m kind of low key thinking this as well. Necas has been flying with Colorado. It’s only a few games. But as long as they don’t crush him for some weird reason…Necas looks good with Mack.
He will also continue flying past Rantanen in goals against
-4 so far, been on the ice for 8 goals against in 3 games
Necas can score for sure, kid can't defend at all though, won't bring any cups to Colorado that's for damn sure
@@Ozero300 Necas is only 6 points behind Rantenen, while playing 6 LESS minutes per game!
@@cal8362 and how good was Rantenan on D? I don’t think he knows what backchecking means. Yeah, Necas has been on ice for a lot of goals against. He isn’t used to the Colorado system. He will get used to it, though. And he’s so damn fast he’ll be able to get back, help, and still go forward. Plus those goals were usually caused by defensive lapses. Not him. His zone entries are way better than Mikko’s have been this season. They’re better than even Mackinnon’s, especially on the PP. At least so far. We’ll have to wait and see how it turns out. Makar didn’t have a great +/- last year, and none of the Avs are soaring in that department. There’s an adjustment period for new players. I think adding someone that actually wins most of his faceoffs (drury, because NO ONE on the Avs can aside from him) and someone who works as hard as Necas will help. Look at their power play already. It looks ten times better with him on it. Look at Mikko’s effort in the playoffs last year, and his effort this regular season. He’s let a lot of pucks slip out of the zone, and went offside a ridiculous amount of times, made sloppy passes, doesn’t reach for the puck sometimes. It looked lackluster this season. Don’t get me wrong. I’ll miss him, but sometimes teams and players alike need something new. Things can get stale. And everyone knows now that Mackinnon zoomed around and hit Mikko on the right. It’s like that’s the only play they knew anymore. I think Mackinnon kind of stagnated and stopped shooting as much and just dished to Mikko. I believe they’d both have even more points this season if things hadn’t stagnated. They’re both incredible. Those two should be putting up stupid numbers again, like last season, at least, if not more.
I also am not sure about the points thing, but Mikko will not have Mackinnon, Makar, Toews, and Drouin constantly feeding him pucks anymore, after they worked to create space for him, and he won’t have Nuke and Lekky in front to finish rebounds or tips off of his shots. That would lower his point production a bit unless he starts playing with more effort in CAR. And Necas on the Avs is now another player like Mack that creates space. And seems really good at it. He opens up so much ice. Then he’s dishing to Mackinnon and Makar. That gives those guys more opportunities to shoot instead of pass now. But they are still playmakers as well, and will dish to Necas. This would, in theory, boost Necas’ production. He’s not far behind Mikko in points. Everyone is acting like Mikko was miles ahead of him, but at the trade Mikko was at 64, and Necas was at 55. Necas has had 4 assists and Mikko has had 1 since the trade.
So, no. It’s not a stupid take whatsoever. Carolina is good. But they don’t have a Mackinnon, or a Makar, let alone the other studs, to constantly be feeding Rantanen for one timers in his “office.” Besides, him sitting in that right circle and trying to hammer one timers (as long as they were perfect passes right in the wheelhouse and not an inch outside, because then he’d give up this season) hadn’t netted them ANY PP goals in what was it, 25 or something power plays. It was insane. They finally went 1/2 in that Nyr game. And the second pp actually looked exciting. Kept the puck in, and recovered the zone after nyr cleared it. Which has seemed like an impossible task lately. They actually broke back into the zone quickly. Those things were because of Necas not despite him. So, again, no, it’s not a stupid take.
Marner gonna be the next big trade to follow this one ☝️
what a pick up! someone that knows how to show up under the brightest lights.
I think all the losing is getting to Conor. Would have been a great thing for Conor to have a Top 10 player in the World. The question will be if Carolina can re sign Miko in July. As a Avs fan i am still in shock. They did my boy dirty
Carolina signing Rants is a LONG BET
I GUARANTEE you that in the off season Rantanen will be picked up by the Blackhawks
Rantanen isn't draisaitl so the fact they were using drai as mikkos "market value" is why this deal fell through. Rantanens bullish agent is probably to blame for all of this. He genuinely is not worth more than 12m per season. He has lapses in his defensive play, he often goes stretches of game with low effort, and he can't play center.
Agree 💯
Also gets knocked off the puck/his feet a lot more than he used to. I'll always appreciate moose, but I agree with this.
Last year rumors were that he wanted 12.5m. 14m "market value" is only there that Colorado can explain the trade and blame the player.
''Streches of game with low effort'' just shows me you don't know hockey.
@@jonnenaamupala7857 I mean… he has been called out publicly by analysts. Let’s not forget fingate 2023.
You did NOT compare Necas to a Tesla😭😭
7:06 Cause that's worked so well for Toronto.
Trading Rantanen is the only reason the Avs might win another cup.
Toronto won't win anything cause its management doesn't have the guts to do something like this.
Sure, how does that copium taste my man? :D
@@dejjag Copium? Are you accusing me of being a Leafs fan or an Avs fan. You know insults only work if they're clear.
"Trading Rantanen is the only reason the Avs might win another cup." *laughing emojie*
Nah fam, you won't win anything in 30 years, so yeah, exactly like the Leafs haha
@@dejjag the mining company gave me a bonus this quarter
The Avs are good offensive team, but there is no depth in the bottom six for the Avs. I love Colorado and getting talent players such as Necas and Drury to add depth to your roster is a smart move, but trading someone who is in their prime, putting up 100 point season and could potentially be a Hall of Fame player is like a double edged sword. The Avalanche are still struggling with puck control and the power play being 2 for their last 33 chances, the team is hoping for a jackpot at the trade deadline, now their could be a chance for Mikko to come back to Colorado in the offseason if he has a fluke performance with the Hurricanes, but that’s one in a hundred million chances for that to happen. It does suck to see a player who was with the team get traded, but hopefully Mikko can be the prime player that he is and help Carolina win their second Stanley Cup.
It didn't change anything for colorado, they're still over cap with no defensemen
Bruins legend Taylor Hall is worth the world
What kind of edge should it give the hawks in signing Rantanen?! As if it would really be a factor that they retained his salary….what a weird take….
all im saying is this 3rd team thing needs to be a thing nhl 26 i know this has nothing to with the video but yeah
Rantanen will not sign with Canes. Even if they win the cup.
I don't believe this we have 40 mil in cap and the only really "big" piece we have pending is burns he's going to get the brinks truck backed up to his house
Carolina will have a ton of cap space, if he wants to stay, they have the room to pay him.
If you are a leafs fan what would your reaction be for this deal for Mariner?
Carolina has nearly 40 million in cap i think we’re signing him.
wouldnt be surprised if you ate your words that necas is no rantanen.. dude has wayy better IQ
Come back when the kid has a cup and showed the world hes a certified winner :)
As shocking this trade was...it's not as shocking as Kordik for Courtnall. 😳
🔴📢The Avs GMs made a great deal, what r u talking about lol. Don't you remember how Swayman refused to agree on $64mil pushing to $66mil, look what that drama did to the entire Boston team's chemistry this season. Those insane salaries started as a special case for Canadian teams members (Mathews, Nylander, etc) simply because Canada Govt takes HALF of their money by taxes! But now the US team's players somehow demanding the same amounts. Would you really pay Rantanen (a winger) more money than to your center McKinnon? Avs would loose Ranta anyways this summer as a free agent, but they managed to acquire freaking Necas for $6mil?! These Avs GMs are genius! And then Mikka says "I'm so shocked", while he refused to agree on a reasonable deal.
thank you for uploading daddy
Swapping a Ferrari for a Tesla? Just killed this whole video with this nonsense.
Rantanen is miles ahead of Necas
@@HecticHockey xdd stop the channel, you know nothing about hockey
@@HecticHockey miles ahead is not right
Top 15? Nah. Rantanen has 5th most points in the last four seasons, more than Matthews, Panarin or Pasta.
Mikko goes to market after the season. Avs will pay him and sign him. Boom they get Mikko and Necas. Landy will retire next season probably anyways.
bedard and hall didnt play much together
The pesky Islanders crushed both these team LFGI
Nope , no it doesn’t
Top comments gay 😊
no. it changed the rosters of 3 teams. delete channel
Rantanen will not sign with Carolina, instead will end up to Edmonton.
He’s coming back to Colorado. 🙏
With what cap
@@JastwatchingYT yeah it probably ain't happening, even though I want it to
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