Joe Brolly on united Ireland question and what he'd do with the north
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- Опубликовано: 2 фев 2022
- Joe Brolly's Sport Stories episode caught the national attention with his discussions about RTÉ, the GAA, the Troubles in Northern Ireland and his thoughts on the question of Irish #unification.
#Brolly speaks articulately about society in the north today and how he'd deal with the idea of a united #Ireland on the island.
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As a former NI Prod, and son and grandson of Orangemen, all I can say is “Way to go Joe!” It’s time to end sectarianism on both sides.
All for ending sectarianism... let's start by letting our kids go to the same schools... Catholics need to end the boycott of NI state schools.
@@asanulsterman1025 You took the words right out of my mouth, been saying this for a long time, put an end to
segregation in Schools OK you can have some Schools that are for strict religious purposes and education if you wish and I do not although this happens all over the world but what a wonderful way to expand children's minds and to learn respect for their fellow human beings, I cannot wait for the day when NI is not run on sectarian lines!
Well said John, many of the best Irishmen were NI Protestant men. We all need to work together to face the coming issues, climate and other.
@@thomasjosullivan9179 In case you didn't know it religion is over. As I recall the last time protestants and catholics got together to bring about an Irish Republic it didn't go so well for the protestants. Can't fool them a second time.
@@asanulsterman1025 making up shite as usual. Protestants led the 1798 rebellion, Home Rule, The Rising and the Republic of Ireland elected a Protestant as it's first ever President.
Well said Joe, especially your assessment of Ian Paisley. I was born and raised in a hardline Orange Order family. Through travel and education, I expanded my views and learned to understand that people can live and work together, if given the chance. I am fifty nine years old and I now live happily in Dublin. Quite an achievement for a Shankill Road lad.
As another Shankill road lad who has travelled the world far and wide I can agree that people can and should live and work together. If only the southerners would stop their incessant and annoying chatter about uniting ireland and instead focus on making the whole British Isles work for everyone.
Good man if only more people from hardline areas actually traveled and educated themselves they would realise we are all interconnected at a deep level but the system itself is wrong too easy to get handouts and stay in their estates holding onto the beliefs beaten into them from no age living in fear of each other whilst politicians play she said he said lapping it all up.
@@asanulsterman1025 with all due respect, and I'm sure you're a free speech advocate no doubt, people within and without NI are having and are entitled to talk about a United Ireland- without your permission. If unionism is so insecure with itself, it is worrying that chatter of a united Ireland induces panic and a rush to inevitable unionist unity and raising of tensions from usual suspects in the Orange Order. If unity happens, let's try and build a new homeplace for everyone.
@@PK-sc2vn But history tells us that your idle chatter eventually costs the lives of many of my people. I think your idle chatter is akin to hate speech and should be sanctioned. Joe has already told you the way forward and it's not UI, why don't you listen for a change.
@@asanulsterman1025 you sound like a complete lost cause and you need to get out of your kneebreakers more. In fact, I think you're just trolling and why should I take you seriously at all. Northern Ireland doesn't belong to you anymore than it belongs to me. Glad that you at least admit you don't advocate free speech when it's something you don't agree with.
Good on ya, Joe; you speak more sense, with more moral courage than a lot of politicians...I respect you, Sir.
"moral courage " he's a solicitor ffs , he wont have morals of any kind.
@@TheNinyo77 show him, the money
Shortall Liam
Pie in the sky dreaming. Just as the two so called religious classes in N.I. start getting on the British Govt. and the EU start flooding the place with another religion (of peace). We ain't seen nothing yet the new Irish will teach you about sectarianism, and our grandchildren can thank our respective Governments for their plight.
@@wjf0ne that's a very siege mentality....... nothing to be afraid of in Irish culture like I should have nothing to be afraid of in unionist culture.....we are not all bogey men ........that's why integration of education is the way forward
Moral courage, lol 😅
Very well said Joe,I remember the stooge Claire Byrne silencing you on RTE one night because you spoke so much truth about Eggory Campbell,she was an absolute disgrace,really showed her true colours,keep on speaking the truth like you do,we could do with plenty more of you.
That was shameful. Disgraceful.
Didn't see it
Yes, saw that too, RTE true and true. I saw Claire Byrne since remark to Andrew Trimble who he was happy to play for the "Rep of Ireland", what a clown
Yes though she was good, but let herself down and acted foolish. Never listen to her anymore.
Rubbish.
Good man Joe, makes sense, RTE, really fucked up by dropping him, very poor judgement, from the state controlled media
Brolly and Spalline were the most iconic duo in G.A.A commentry history a real clash of Cultures
The man’s a menace good riddance to him he should keep is trap shut
Cé
time for us to grow up .... I love Joe Brolly's philosophy and practical outlook.
I'm not from the UK, but it seems to me as if the English have complicated their lives by historically planting the Union Jack in countries they never should have Colonized. The way I see it If you're Irish be Irish and if you feel British move to Britain, the name of the Island is Ireland and should only belong to the Irish people regardless if you're a Catholic, Protestant or whatever you else want to believe. The English should concern themselves with England and stay in Britain where they belong. Plenty of lives would have been saved had everyone just stayed in their country. I know the history is complicated, but it seems like a problem easily solved. I never understood why anyone would ever allow England to Govern over their own Nation, Independence is the only answer. The people must believe in their ability to Self Govern.
We didn't complicate our lives by planting a union flag in Ireland, we chose to be an imperial nation during a period where most nations on earth were either empires, or subjugated into one. I and most English people will never EVER apologise for that. So sorry to disappoint.
Having said that I now fully agree, the north of Ireland is a waste of our time and energy, cut it loose.
@@JackoJ15 The British Empire was exactly just that, an Empire who's Imperialistic Monarchy pushed to Colonize as much of the world as possible completely disregarding the Indigenous Populations they encountered, which is why today the English have become Xenophobic to people who are Culturally different as a result of their own conquest.
Yes it is time to get out of Ireland, the English have done enough damage around the world in their quest to exploit the resources of other Nations, whether it was manpower, agriculture or minerals. The time has come for other Nations to become Sovereign and Independent of British, European and American rule.
@@JackoJ15 Correct. Stiff upper lip, chin up, old bean. We merely claimed what was rightfully ours. Rule Britannia!!
I get what you're saying, but it's not that simple. The unionists/protestants/planters/whatever have been there for a long time. It's their home too.
By your logic I could say "make Welsh the official language of England! You don't like it? Then fuck off back to Germany Anglo-Saxon boy!"
@@JackoJ15 Ulster Loyalists Protestants have given you such loyalty
Good man Joe, keeping er lit. Doire Ábu
Very good Joe tell the truth. Proud of you 👍
I could listen to Joe Brolly all day - he just talks sense - after coming from the background he did he could be bitter as all hell and raging. Its clear where he came from and what part of the divide he belonged/belongs to but it doesnt colour his opinion or his basic humanity. He is a very important voice for us all at this time and moving in to the future.
my grandfather and siblings came from County Tyrone Ireland. I will never say "northern" England out.
Well spoken sir, seems like the way to go. Evolution not revolution.
Niall Martin
I've read that the general IQ of folk peaked in the 1860's, we are not evolving the human race in many places is diminishing in intelligence.
First extremely accurate description of Dr Ian. Not a religious person but if there's an afterlife, a Christian reward, Mr Paisley will never see it. As Brolly pointed out his trail of destruction was so evident except to RTE . They treated Paisley as a beacon of light and it won't be forgotten by a lot of people
Certainly not being forgotten by Dublin Pride, who very recently dropped RTÉ like a bad habit.
Judge not less ye be judged
Joe the North is not a country its provenance off ulster
@@som9097 Said like a true Free Presbyterian.....
@@conordorrian1652You’re pretty naive if you think your description only applies to Dr Ian. What do you think of say the late Martin McGuinness or Gerry Adams say.?
Top man Joe-completely nailed it.
This is such a refreshing take. Very surprised.
as a young member of the orange order this man put forward a level headed position that by in large i agree with
What RTE did to this man via Claire Byrne was censorship pure and simple not to mention utterly unprofessional by the host interviewer.
Did that really suprise you what claire byrne done to him miriam o callaghan treated martin mcguiness the same during the presidential campain a disgrace rte government puppets
Joe has a good heart in fairness.
Absolute truth and wisdom from Brolly.
well said Joe
One of the people speaking any sense.
YES👍️ UNITED IRELAND🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
United Brussels,
Joe Brolly is the man this Island needs.
Ireland needs to sort out its housing and living costs before it considers adding a part of the UK that gets the highest public spending per person and also has the best education scores in the UK and Ireland
Joe brolly , what a class act , he says what a lot of politicians on both side of the boarder don’t want to hear , he’d run storment no problem 😌
Positive stuff. Hard to argue with any of it.
Joe Brolly for President!
I saw an interview with Joe and Jamie Bryson where Joe said his kids had proddy friends. On this interview he said they don't have proddy friends. Which is it Joe??
An all island citizens forum needs to be convened - sooner rather than later - to begin discussions on what a future united Ireland will look like in practical terms.
Do you seriously think unionists would agree to that they want nothing to do with us full stop.
Middle classes are abit more polite about it than working classes but they feel just the same unless we become diet Britain read Andrew Trimble's Irish times article Saturday 12th March which I for one wouldn't be prepared to do and even then they'd find a reason to reject a United Ireland and the troubles could possibly reignite if their was a referendum and a majority voted in favour of a United Ireland.Be careful what you wish for folks it might just come true.
@@Minime163 “us” ? … what about your fellow Irish citizens in the North?
@@karlconnolly3994 yes I get what your saying but I don't want to turn Ireland into a wannabe brit to appease those crowd that would probably do everything possible to destabilise the government and make Ireland as unviable a prospect as northern Ireland is now.
@@Minime163
It’s an all Ireland problem that’s been addressed by all leading Irish Republicans from Tone to Adams… it’s not about the 26 or the 6 … it’s about the 32… check the proclamation, Paddy.
@@karlconnolly3994 ok so why don't we have a 32 county republic then
Excellent analysis
Nailed it Joe .
The UK does not care about Ireland whether you’re protestant or Catholic or neither. The reality is a two state solution will just drag on the economy and just keep protracted identity politics and paying for two governments is such a waste of money. The south has a dynamic economy but there needs to be a decentralize power more autonomy to other cities in Ireland away from Dublin because Dublin is overheated. Both the north and the south in a one island economy will benefit immensely. It’s a well educated society the Catholic Church no longer say in government. A two state solution will be a disaster. Inclusiveness is the engage the unionist. The EU will be more than engaged in keeping the north and south in harmony and economically viable. It’s a young country and well-educated.
While I agree with you on everything time is something that is also important and we should be talking about unification a lot more by all the people on the island of Ireland.
We could have great opportunities in unification of Ireland but it's important that unionist people get involved now too especially the youth of both communities.
Let's not forget about others too as there's more religions than Catholics and Protestants on this island of Ireland but our youth are very well educated and these people can open all doors to make our small country a great place to live in
@@Raggman42 The engagement has to start in the republic FF and FG have been very reluctant. Definitely this will take time and every one across society needs to be engaged
@@Raggman42 well my brother in laws actually from the continent of africa, enjoys being irish very much, my nephews mixed race, and has a tri colour above his wall. hes proud to be irish patrick, tho i know where you are coming from, alot of people are moving, to our small island for a better life, and would need to feel welcome , irish reunification, doesn't mean the north joining the south, it means a whole new country, consisting of all our people living here and 32 counties of land my friend
@@jjmcquade31 jj I agree I made a comment about people coming to Ireland 🇮🇪 from all over the world anyway I remember saying Paul Mcgrath that he's my favourite player with Ireland and his dad is African American not that it matter and mother was Irish this man went through pain playing for Ireland giving everything he had .
But some one replied to me I hear there's a lot of blacks now in Ireland who I would call what a 🤡 clown and for that matter the English close to have of them played for Ireland 🇮🇪 in under age team all of with Irish backgrounds.
All I ask of anyone coming to Ireland to live mix in get chatting to people and enjoy the mighty craic and of course respect our laws like I do when I visit any other counties what I wouldn't give for a few Paul Mcgrath back in the Irish team
@@Raggman42 Well i'm not a big gaa/football fan but i understand were your coming from my friend godbless
People in England would be delighted to see the back of Northern Ireland. This was a general feeling even before the ‘Troubles’. Only the electoral advantage of DUP supporting Tory governments has sustained the ‘Union’.
Ulster Protestants aren't all backward bigots many of them reasonable Unionists that want equality unfortunately many Ulster Presbyterians that hate Irish Roman Catholics
@@RobertK1993 I know Robert. But English people generally don’t understand the NI situation beyond the point where they decide that they don’t really want continued Union - unless they are a Tory politician of course
@@tonykelpie Ulster Presbyterians are sore losers started sectarian fighting in 1610 brought 1641 massacres on themselves they where awful but Irish Roman Catholics where defending themselves from bigoted Presbyterians Anglicans etx
The people might but the government obviously wouldn't be delighted in it when they defended it for 30 years with utmost ruthlessness
@@jackietreehorn5561 not so sure. The current Brexit mob have shown almost no regard for NI, despite the warnings given in 2016. Their posturing over the Protocol (which they happily signed to ‘get Brexit done’ prior to December 2019 election) is about appealing to the xenophobic voters in England on whom they have relied in their pursuit of power. Again no real consideration of the interests of NI as a whole.
It is not just a matter of finance and money, laddie, no matter how much you wish it so.
Unfortunately the wounds will never heal.
When people who have caused the wounds die out, why not?
Joe these days I live in the USA and I come from the opposite side of the fence ... you know ... kick with the wrong foot and me eyes are too close together ... and whilst i don't completely share all your opinions we need to more Joe's who are educated about the world on both sides of the fence and find common ground (and also ones you buy their own rounds). It is interesting the similarities we have ... we mostly all drink Guinness (a black drink invented in Dublin by a protestant orangeman no less) and we support teams that largely play in Green (and have Ireland in their name) ... so we have more in common than we think. I think the good Friday agreement shows how we should manage ourselves in the North of Ireland and I would suggest we should keep this type of institution even if there is one day a border pole that is 50.01% in favor of joining the rest of Ireland. The north is a special space with two special groups of people and I think we do best when forced to work together. Keep up the discussions ... I prefer these to bombs and bullets anyday
I bet you are still called Irish there regardless.....no offense
Guinness was not invented by an orange man you numpty.
He makes some good points. But doesn't mention Education. Integrated Education from the time of the Good Friday agreement, we'd be ready for a boarder pole.
the roman catholic church will not give up their grip on schools
Compulsory Irish in schools is also a major stumbling block to unity.
Come down to Cork Joe 👍
The North is like one big halting site
I would say the halting site accent is most definitely across the border
Tanks
Sense at last being spoken, orange and green divisions need to be put in a museum where they belong and the focus put on the common good, well said Joe
yes paul in the past one flag needs to fly about every city hall in this country and thats the tri colour imo tho thats just my opinion maybe we could add other colours to represent people who don't align, altho i'd love to move on from sectarian lines where theres 1 island, 1 country, 1 parliament (The Dail for the whole 32 counties) and 1 people, the irish people, weather your irish, british, northern irish or non would, love, the ability, to move on from mental illness and benefits, to a job and good mental health, would love a good, painting and decorating job, and the ability to live, in a country consisting of 32 counties, and to fly 1 flag for all our people weather you live in derry, belfast, cork, dublin, ardoyne, shankill malone road or cultra or blue bell west cork, bog side or where ever else the irish flag, and it not being seen as offensive by any one, my friend
As that great man Michael Hardy said God has no religion
St Peter The First Pope.☘🇮🇪
Jesus loves everyone, we just have to work out how to love one another.
Finally an adult in the room on the issue of NI
Ireland needs a party of the right.
What are the DUP and other loyalists?
@@PanglossDr No, they are just religious obsessed dim wits.I want a party of the right that brings Nationalist and Unionist together.A party that has no time for sectarian idiocy, but one that puts the Irish national interest first.Why the hell are we promoting wind farms and solar lunacy and handing money out to the third world.I want a party that puts young unionists in East Belfast ,and young nationalists in Derry first.We have nothing like that and we need it my friend.I will let you in something hard times are coming to the whole Island.Read what the UN and EU are proposing for our future.
@@sonnyirish3678 Renewable energy has nothing to do with right or left.
@@thejoin4687 Its has everything to do with screwing working people.The people of Ireland and Europe have been fed a complete and utter lie.We shut our economies down while China and India grow their's.Its a con on a grand scale.
Irony is if Ireland ever was United, Conservative Unionists could be the ones to save the country from becoming a autocrat "progressive" hell hole.
Joe is living in a dream world
best comment I have heard to date about how the North of Ireland should move forward
If/when Scotland leaves UK what is left of the union. People in England don't give NI a second thought, they see you as foreigners & in xenophobic England all their problems are caused by them & the EU. NI needs to do grownup politics, no no & no surrender are not viable political positions. A United Ireland is inevitable but that does not have to be a takeover.
False prophets with slick tongue’s abound these days, so choose who and what you want to believe very carefully.
Sounds romantic but not realistic .
Jesus, that was one of the best and most elegant summaries of post GFA NI I've heard
The Department of the Treasury would take exception to Joe’s view that the North “doesn’t need huge sums of money”. Quite the contrary NI is the most expensive per capita of the devolved nations. Otherwise quite sound points made.
Joe is the only one talking scence about northern Ireland let them have a referendum on rejoining the EU and take it from there
The problem is the North as an independent country cannot sustain itself and would not end well
Would 't a federation of Ireland solve many problems?
New name , new flag
Maybe but count Ulster out, we are best served by 2 state solution.
Ulster Scots don't want compromise they selfish sectarian weasels
@@asanulsterman1025 speak for yourself. You're not speaking for all of "Ulster"
@@joekavanagh7171 Back at you Joe.
Completely, truly apt on the 'Party of No'.
Amen to those sentiments !
Joe Brolly is a good guy and makes some salient points as ever. But there are a couple of things here.
Firstly the Northern Ireland he talks about where religious identity, national identity and sexual identity are not important is miles away and remember its 2022.
He mentioned the late Ian Paisley, however his Son has very much carried on the mantle of his father in the 70-80's of divisionist politics.
Politicians like Naomi Long and the Alliance Party are supposed to be the way ahead but they are still a very insignificant party in NI terms. They will poll very marginally in the spring elections with the old dinosaurs being returned to Stormont, for the same ole same ole.
Intransigent not for turning politics is a long way from over in NI.
Joe should also remember that the people in the Republic are to be considered also in any future Ireland.
Because we know what a UI means.
The idea that the people of the Rep should say the right things and be quietly quietly about it is very wrong.
No, we have plenty to ask, and want some big questions answered.
Eg I don't want Irelands @#$%^& Call (or worse) as a replacement for Amhràn na bfhiann.
There are lots of people who want our Irish identity maintained not diluted beyond recognition to placate the identity of Ulster Unionism.
Because if it means doing this then thanks but no thanks should be the answer to a UI.
AS the Scots said in 2014 to their independence (mentioned by Joe)
As a proud free stater a UI that trashes the identity of the Irish Republic will make us less Irish and not more Irish than what we are now.
Share an island and focus on the common good.
Couldnt agree more, giving up aspects of our National identity to appease 750k or so people in the North, for the sake of gaining the 6 counties is not worth it in my book. Besides most hardcore Unionists would leave in droves such as Arlene Foster. Therefore why should the entire rest of the Island dilute it’s Irishness for the sake of Unification. The thought of giving up symbolism such as our Tri colour and National anthem makes me sick. The entire 26 counties and half the North at this point should not have to re invent our identity for appeasing Unionists.
@@Colin-IE maith an fear🇮🇪
Yes I agree with you but unionist people can have a place here in Ireland too ,just as our families and friends have in America and in the EU Nations too and many other countries around the world including Australia and New Zealand 🇳🇿 remember New Zealand back Ireland and the Good Friday agreement treaty as did the United States of America and the EU.
But I certainly would hope that unionist people would get involved with Ireland they can remain British and we should be improving the common travel area agreement while I could not agree to the commonwealth I believe there's a way forward through the common travel area agreement which could benefit all of us both Irish and British people.
But the youth of all our people must be involved in unification of Ireland and the future of Ireland.
Please bare in mind I have no time for hard core unionist none and have made that very clear but if unionist people really want to live in Ireland then we must work together and live together and I've no problem with unionist people getting involved in politics they might bring some better benefits to Ireland for all our citizens
@@Raggman42 moderate Unionist are a very decent people and if a vote was made on both sides of the border to unify Ireland then I believe they will accept that and get on with it.
However with moderate Unionists come a percentage of hard-core religious fundamentalist intolerant folk.
Who let's be honest have an inate hatred of all things Irish. If you offered them a euro millions win to acquiesce to a UI they would flatly refuse it.
Imo they would just be a thorn in the side of progress for this country in perpetuity.
Under Irelands unique form of PR they may even hold the balance of power and exert overbearing influence for year, to utterly trash the identity of the Irish Republic We seen them do this in Westminster.
I don't need to go there as to what that will entail.
You mentioned the Good Friday Agreement, this was the ideal scenario. Nationalists got British soldiers off the street, watchtowers removed, open borders and free trade with the Republic. A not perfect but vastly improved deal.
On the other side Unionists had their British identity maintained and Nationalists/Republicans have a Parliament that they have a major say in, including Policing.
But guess what the hardliners again rejected this. Joe Brolly mentioned some of the names old Paisley used to call Trimble.
Despicable!
Cards on the table for me, the identity of the Irish Republic, our flag, our anthem, the office of the Taoiseach, Tàniste other offices of state even down to the Garda Sìochana will all be pervasively replaced. Oh and I would not rule out membership of the British Commonwealth.
That is a price not worth paying for me for 6 counties , ever. Sorry.
Alliance have been polling at 15-16% of late, only a couple of points behind the DUP itself, try to keep up!
time for a united ireland
How does a desire for a united Ireland imply a transcendent lack of blindness to religion, nationality ? Slovenly reasoning for a barrister.
All tho I don’t agree with everything joe is saying here I must say he’s a great communicator. You could listen to the man, and I’ve a feeling we’re going to see him more involved in politics in the near future.
A bit pious. Sensible thoughts but hatred on both sides is not so easy to put behind in that society. Getting there, time heals.
Niall maceide,,
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Watching from Australian joe is great
As long as in a united ireland we have our own laws .
Straight lamp posts,clean cars not so many L PLATES,and timekeeping is taken seriously ,and last of all hygiene is taken seriously I agree.
Yes I'd imagine in United Ireland there would be little difference except the currency
As somebody from the Republic, but living overseas for several years, I have to say I am fed up with the finger-pointing and blame game that has gone on in the north eastern corner of Ireland for years. The Republic, however, has a role to play in putting that behind us and they are not doing so - at least have a governmental level. The Republic of Ireland government should be making conditions highly attractive for unification, and for recognition of a different tradition to the majority of people in Ireland. It’s time Irish people recognized that we have more in common than what separates us. This is tribalism and it needs to stop; we need to do small things in Ireland to encourage better relations, more friendly relations, more accepting and more welcoming relations between the communities. Just as the nationalist community in the north, never excepted and forced partition. The loyalist community will never accept and forced reunification. The more amenable approach would be to put away red lines and start seeking common ground; I don’t expect my wish will be granted but I agree with Joe’s approach.
My prediction
-a 'New Ireland' consisting of both North and South
-The North becomes and international trading, import/export hub - storage, customs, access to EU, UK and American markets. Dancing on the fringe as it were.
A federal Ireland in other words if you like... Could be a workable solution!
United Ireland under Dublin rule no more incopetent Westminster British rule or Stormont rule all in Leinster House Dáil Éireann Dublin.
Not a chance this happens in next 100 years
More like it'll happen within the next 10-20 years
United Ireland happening right now that why Ulster Unionists and Loyalists are getting violent and masking anti Irish Roman Catholic bigotry starting to slip they are insecure Ulster Scots
This lucid heartfelt analysis makes the Lineker debaçle look daft
Makes the most sense
The more I think about it, the more I think Ulster Protestants and Unionists talking about a United Ireland is like turkeys voting for Christmas. We have never treated them with much respect, are suspicious towards them, paint them in a negative light at every opportunity, never listen to their concerns, and see their Britishness as having its origins in a 1609 Land Grab where needs to be reversed over time. If anyone needs to start changing their attitude, its us here in The Republic of Ireland.
Thank you for being objective. There's a misconception that we Unionists all subscribe, ultimately, to loyalist fervour. We don't. We respect our Irish neighbours in the Irish Republic but just believe differently on the political and constitutional status of this island.
It's also important to note that thousands of Unionists travel to Dublin to watch IRELAND, stand for a foreign anthem and celebrate their victory. This would not be reciprocal, I can assure you.
@@MALEXI10 Thanks for reply! When I think about it, the Unionist population on the Island of Ireland rarely get cut any slack by ROI. The GFPA clearly identified Northern Ireland as a legitimate entity. The issues with the protocol get little sympathy in ROI media, but there are genuine concerns about putting something in place where Goods are being checked within The UK of GB and NI. When I sat down and listened to some of the Unionist objections, I realised they had some excellent points. But our media will never share that. Instead, they (Unionists) get painted as uncooperative, disruptive, and getting their just "reward" for campaigning for Brexit. Also, go back in history. How much credit do we give the legendary Ulster-Scots who went to America? Now there's the real hands that built America. Making the East Coast settlements a success and then going out into the frontiers. By far the most successful group of people from the Island of Ireland who went to settle in America.
@@JSL2000 the legendary ulster scots is the formation of the term hillbillies.....they retreated to the hills because they couldn't get on with anyone with most in the Appalachian mountains...and nothing against normal protestant people but the orange order still makes it illegal for a member to marry a Catholic......I'm non religious but find this draconian in this day and age
Nothing about years of jerrymandering and discrimination against Catholics then?
@@joekavanagh7171 That was many years ago. Let's focus on 2022 onwards.
Nothing has been squandered, the evidence suggests significant progress. Both communities on the whole work and live together despite our arsehole politicians. Just look at the marriage statistics across communities. Education is certainly a problem but unionists don't have official faith based schools unlike nationalists. Part of the admission criteria for these schools calls out membership of a local parish which stinks of hypocrisy when Sinn Fein talk about failures to integrate education. If religious beliefs appear on admission criteria then your gonna have separation on religious grounds by default.
Ulster Protestants Unionists and Loyalists keep moaning about Northern Ireland Protocol.
John evil to separate kids in nursery to death as ira sinn fein to even allow intergration for gfa.. All time kids not growing up sharing society we have bad tempered adults who never handshaked a protestant. Unionist.. Person
@@RobertK1993 as is their right.. Short changed by own government.. Assaulted by nationalist who like present picture.. EU delighted land grab and miffed of at the brits.. Ireland waiting with ppl in suits black beret to serve us up scheisser
Well said Joe!
Out spoken priest
Would the North be happy about no NHS?
There'll be Slainte Care in the south by the time a border poll comes about. So it's not a problem :)
Eventually the HSE could become like NHS if we work at it.
personally if i the money, i'd probably fund it, but i don't so, the next best thing, is to go to the government,we want slainte care, in a new 32 county united independent irish,my friend
Why not say would the south not like an NHS!
While I love the fact that unification of Ireland 🇮🇪 can happen we as Irish people on the island of Ireland 🇮🇪 are not talking enough about what changes are needed remember there's British/ Irish people living in the six counties of Ireland.
We need to listen to both of these groups and work out what changes can help all of us on the island of Ireland and we should start with no one is going to be harm in any way they must feel welcome to their own country Ireland.
My own wife Yorkshire born and bred has always been welcome in Ireland 🇮🇪 as it should be BTW but we must have a voice from unionist people in the Dail please bare in mind that I've no time for hard core unionists none the likes of Sammy the snake Wilson really has no business in Ireland because while I welcome unionist I want people who are going to benefit Ireland as a country and all the people will benefit from this not just Sammy the snake.
But over all it's more important that we as people work together to make Ireland a place where it's safe and a great place to live.
You are dreaming if you think the people of Ulster are ever going to join the old foe. Tell you what, you concentrate on making your country a great place to live and we will concentrate on making ours an even better place to be. But you have to give up your stale old out-of-date 'united' ireland thinking... it has killed too many already... just let it go.
@@asanulsterman1025 this is the problem with your kind you are forgetting that the unionist and definitely the hard core unionist are no longer in control of the six counties of Ireland. No matter what you do you can't change this and while I can live and forgive your attitude to life and Irish people is disgusting.
Patrick your lack of appliance, as you speak is your down fall straight away. Clearly you have a problem with all unionism unfortunately we all come from this same place, called The island. Because nobody recognises my place in society why should i even contemplate theirs s request.. Be careful what you wish for!
@@asanulsterman1025 Not to upset you but maybe it is the unatural division of the island that is out of date. 293,000 UK citizens happly living in the Republic along with many more peoples from all over the world. It is a great island to live on.
@@thomasjosullivan9179 it is a great island, both nations are lucky, no reason for your nation to try to take my nation's homeland.
if there isnt going to be a border between UK AND ROI then NI needs an 'in' 'out' referendum on remaining a part of the UK. If they vote 'in' then a hard border it will have to be. If they vote 'out' then they can either form a 'united IRELAND' with ROI or become an independent state and join the EU. If GB is to prosper it needs releasing from the constraits of appeasing ROI and the EU
Sounds simple, simple it is not
If GB is to prosper you need to reapply to join the EU.
@@taintabird23 that's not true tho is it? It can prosper in or out of the EU. I didn't want to leave the EU, but we have. Maybe ROI doesn't want NI out of the UK. Then there would be argument to reconsider the need for the CTA.
@@mattjames88 Oh no, tue. You are in recession at the moment.
@@taintabird23thats correct. Also had recession when an EU member.
I WISH ALL IRISH PEOPLE THE VERY, VERY BEST!!!
HOWEVER, ALL IRISH PEOPLE NEED TO GET RID OF THE HIGHLY CORRUPT TORIES, AND ALL THE SELF SERVING, BIGOTS OF BOTH SIDES!!!!
THEN ALL IRISH PEOPLE WILL PROSPER!!!!
I WISH YOU ALL WELL!!!
Muddled thinking here: Northern Island is de facto in the European Union, it's not a millstone round the Conservative and Unionist Party's neck and Scotland votes SNP for free tuition fees not independence.
Northern Ireland in the UK so Ulster Scots Protestants should shut up about the NIP.
@@RobertK1993 Does that mean Ulster catholics can stop moaning about their fabled U.I. as you are on the same island?
Wise man! A United Ireland is inevitable but we can make it work for everyone by keeping stormont in a two-state one-country system.
while thats ridiculous, theres one dail that represents the 32 county ireland why would we keep stormont which is based on sectarian lines brendan
Yeh, think a local satellite government is needed.
Theres no chance fro a united ireland, nearly 70% people ido not want unification.
@@alexmazur1281 where do you get that stat? 70 percent of who? Southerners or northerners? Youve just pulled that percentage from your....hat, ten years time itll happen.
@@alexmazur1281 were are you getting that statistic from lol
There's an arrogance about Brolly who looks down on people's beliefs. If people have religious beliefs that should be respected. England is no more a racist country than any other country. It's odd that he denigrates the DUP but says nothing about Sinn Fein. Like many down south he sees the EU monolith as a solution to everything. The GFA is the solution for the north where everyone has a say and everyones view is respected an represented not just the liberal lefty view that predominate in the Republic.
Someone religious belief should be just that their beliefs after all that old saying religion and politics don't work or mix but at the same time should be respected by all.
As regards England being racist country it's certainly is racist but like every other country not all its people are that way like many counties but I remember the night that English racists stop the football match between Ireland 🇮🇪 and England these racists ran for the ferries and could not get there fast enough for fear of their lives the only time I saw this was when a group nazi were going through Dublin but had to run for their lives too these weren't as smart as they couldn't remember which way the ferries were these racists ran into shops and so on looking for protection lol 😀 😉 it's seems when they are not together in a pack they are not so tough anymore
@@Raggman42 as far as religion goes people like Brolly appear to wish for church's to be torn down and that religion itself no longer exists
Odd he knows how we feel as well, when he clearly stated he only talks to prods while working and his own kids don't know any at all.
England not racist? When your Home Secretary talks about an "invasion" of immigrants?
EMPATHY GOODNESS COURAGE THESE BE BE GREAT WORDS JOE
It's time for one Ireland 🇮🇪
And it's coming like it are not
Unifying Ireland is the only way NoI will get back into the EU. The EU guaranteed this would be immediate and automatic upon Reunification.
Ulster does not want 'back in the EU', we want shot of the EU and everything about it.
@@asanulsterman1025 that’s not what the way Northern Ireland voted in brexit
@@corkboy4523 Indeed, many in the middle classes were against change. However the vote here was closer than in Scotland or London, both getting the full Brexit while we get shat on. We have now seen the imposition of the hated protocol and that has changed many opinions, a recent poll showed only 2% on unionists thought the protocol was a good thing. So I am quite confident that Ulster will (soon) completely leave the EU & never return.
@@asanulsterman1025 well the British government that you’re so loyal to signed you up to the protocol so best to take it up with them. Thrown under the bus by the tories yet again. When will the loyalists learn 🙄
@@corkboy4523 We have learnt, the 1798 rebellion taught us well, never again trust the irish.
Scotland want independence so they can join Europe. Hello
I was always against independence for Scotland but I’ve completely changed my stance. Just get us away from the fucking Tories is all I ask.
I think in theory it sounds good, but disagree with the idea that if there are 2 states they will eventually decide 'feck it' we may as well merge. NI could well decide to go it on it's own. At a population of 1.5 million that would be more than double that of Luxembourg, which has been an established nation for over 200 years. If there is an opportunity for unification (the breakup of the UK etc) then Ireland needs to grab it with both hands, the end of foreign involvement in the country needs to be brought to an end.
As loyalist in Northern Ireland the Dup and sinn fein are both bitter twisted people and have caused more problems than solutions as a retired truck driving down south there just like myself honest hard working poeple wanting piece
peace
@@heliotropezzz333 I new I should have stayed at school many thanks 😊
Unity of geography is a political abstraction
Unity of purpose
Is the way of true
Pragmatism
Irish and British are tags of birth
Humanism is the blue print of liberty
British settlers in Northern Ireland namely Ulster Scots Presbyterians need accept they did wrong too throughout Irish/British history and accept that people are entitled to believe a United Ireland doesnt make them sectarian murdering anti Protestant bigots or IRA supporters.
Unity of geography is political abstraction... Except when it's an island
Just a pity you didn't respect your protestant neighbours in dungiven .
Yes cause they held him and his family in high esteem from what he has narrated of his childhood...
What a sane man!
The following remark was received in an email to us in response to our previous comment on this video "The Republic of Ireland does not have a "privatised" system, please don't confuse with the USA".
The Republic of Ireland has a compulsory income linked, multi-level insurance based health system, with a lower limit financial income access approval process for people without sufficient income, to receive free health care. Northern Ireland has two systems available to everybody, free public access, and private.
There is no confusion, the Republic of Ireland has a privatised system.
The following random comment was also added, "There are quite a lot of people in the North who own an Irish passport - it keeps increasing each year".
Not sure what the relevance of this comment is, but yes there are lots of people in Northern Ireland accessing the generous offer of the Republic of Ireland for Northerners to be allowed their passport.
Hopefully at some point in the future the USA will also allow us to access their passport, and loads of people will acquire it to. Won't give the USA the right to rule Northern Ireland though. With the number of citizens the Republic of Ireland are migrating out into the USA though. I wouldn’t rule out the possibility at some point in the future, of the Republic of Ireland trying to take over the USA as a province. After all it will be absolutely full of Irish people.
There's very few irish born in america
@@anthonym3351
That is exactly the point being made.
There has never been generic Irish children born in Ireland as there has never been a united Ireland. There has always been at least two states, even during the British occupation, the term Ireland refers to the whole island.
Nationality is the state you were born in not the land mass. It is a personal political choice to deny this, not a fact, as there will be occasions that the actual nationality will have to be used, in spite of the person’s objections.
To further its expansions ambitions, inherited from the British, Dublin and Irish Republicans refuse to recognize these many millennia old historic divisions in Ireland. Irish Republicans below the status of Northern Irelands First Minister, even refusing to vocalize the name Northern Ireland.
If you reserve the right to dismiss the nationality part of the identity designation in your politics, the terms often used, Irish American or American Irish becomes Irish, when it suits you.
Creating exactly the same nationality division in America as in Northern Ireland, and exactly the same fictional territorial claim.
@@NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance for someone so anti Irish you have ireland in your title. Every video on ireland you are spinning anti Irish bile, you're stuck in 17th century. The difference is Republic left religion and bigotry behind and became rich, you are apart of the side of Ireland that never moved on
@@anthonym3351
Sorry, "Abuse is the final resort of an exhausted mind" so I thank you for your comments and say goodbye at this point.
Mind-numbingly naive opinions. Mind-numbing.
Joe also said Brexit will never happen . He constantly gets his predictions wrong
In fairness most pre people the vote said the same
The man has no idea and stuff his faux impartially. Or organ donation.. Pretend
Fairness and happiness , being safe
Everyone should want these ..
Keep it simple
Lol as long as N.Ireland lives in the past, It will never have a future. Reading some of these comments it may take another generation or two. The hatered is bread into both sides. I hope the parents are happy. 😂😂😂
Only if the Republic joins northern Ireland and becomes part off the United Kingdom 🇬🇧
I think if I was a Northern Irish protestant,I would probably move to England.I would not be sure I would want to stay.
Joe, the EU is destroying Ireland 😢. Big mistake to rejoin it.
Éireann Should Leave The Evil EU.☘🇮🇪
The EU is destroying Ireland? Are you insane? It is the best thing that ever happened to the place.
@@taintabird23 I am certainly not insane. Many Irish people are seeking an IREXIT. I am one of them. We are completely controlled by the EU. It is a dictatorship. When there is a referendum, and the people don't vote the way the EU want, they are asked to vote again. The EU and its Open Borders are obliterating Irish society and in a very short while Ireland will be Ireland in name only. The Farmers in Ireland benefit hugely from the EU and we have advanced roads across the country, however many other people in society have not benefitted from our membership of the EU. Ireland is a net contributor to the EU currently, we give more to it than we receive. Non vetting of immigrants is a serious problem for Irish peoples safety and security. The Irish Freedom Party were set up a few years ago seeking an IREXIT and their President works in Brussels at the EU. Ireland sold our Fishing Rights to the EU and the EU now trawls our waters leaving us very little fish to consume. Wild Salmon cannot be sourced anymore in many areas around the country. Look what the EU did during this 'pandemic'. Germany and France closed their borders and retained medical supplies for their own people rather than sharing resources. This is not the spirit of a club that we should be members of. I could go on.
@@taintabird23 economics does not matter when the fact is we don't control our own country anymore now the EU parliament a group of unelected politicians you didn't vote for I didn't vote for and your neighbour Johnny down the road didn't vote for now have a say in how many of our laws are decided remember how aggressive they got over our Corporate Tax policy they want all the EU members to have the same rate knowing it will benefit France and Germany the most plus immigration into Ireland spurred on by the EU could make us a minority in our own island by as early as 2050
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 The men of 1916 who made Ireland's initial application to join the EEC in 1961, believed that economic DID matter.
And they made that application in the full knowledge of the grand European project the EEC aspired to.
If its good enough for them, its good enough for you.
If only politicians in the North on both sides had the vision this man had!
I think the foreigners vote will be vital in a united ireland .
Couldn’t make it up lol
Not everyone wants your liberal values sir , you do not speak for everyone in the country of Northern Ireland as you at least rightly referred to Northern Ireland as a country as much as Scotland and Wales are .
Just like in America,how's the liberals in that country fairing under let's go Brandon.Nowhere bye bye.Do people really think a million Protestants will meekly join with the South?Over our de#d bodies.
@@douglasdodds8490 you're nowhere near a million people and you will accept a democratic vote or face the consequences...
You no longer have the British army and RUC to help you out this time.
Extreme loyalists are an aging population and will not hold the island to ransom.
The north is a manufactured failed statelet. It is nothing like Scotland or Wales.
@@imastaycool in your dreams.
@@douglasdodds8490 that all you got, you aging racist loyalist?
It's not though it's 2/3 of a province.
Honestly at this stage they would be a hindrance
Who would be a hindrance to what?
Your a freestater. The people in the North are as Irish as anyone else on this island. They were betrayed by the free state government under Jack Lynch in 1969 when they needed help and years of FF and FG propaganda has created people like you who look down on and would gladly turn their back on fellow Irish people. Thankfully your in a small minority.
@@stallthedigger2599 I asked him in my previous comment to name who he was referring to and he has chosen to go silent.
The free state have turned their back on the North time and time again. They should be ashamed!
Also, fair play to you for calling him out
@@magaolinewood9268 Nobody wants the crazy loyalists. Northern nationalists aren't the problem .
@@LOGOS422 Every demographic is indicating they will be a minority even within the 6 counties that the carved out back in 1921.
They haven't managed to mingle into Irish culture in all their time here. They will have to learn to accept democracy one day. We are Irish in the North and we love this country just as you do.
I'm not sure the EU is the answer to European woes. I'm not convinced a small country like Ireland which by definition is netural can remain so if another war breaks out in the east. And
Unification of my country will only take place when we rid ourselves of dup mentality.
I think Ireland has a lot more things more important than a united ireland.
20 years ago it was a sought after thing not so much today.
Ireland ceases to exist if one looks around.
Brussels is the boss