Herman Miller Embody Gaming Chair First Impressions & Unboxing

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  • Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
  • For years, I have always wanted to sit and try out a Herman Miller chair. More specifically the Embody Gaming chair. After watching so many videos, reading reviews, and articles, a gang of overtime, and Herman Miller's CURRENT SALE, I had enough funds to finally purchase the chair. This video showcases my very first time sitting in this chair. I have sat in a Aeron due to work in the military as we had these chairs and they were comfortable but this one caught my eye due to the design, and I have no store near me to try it out. I currently own the Secret Lab Titan Evo 2022 Batman Edition and I do a lot of comparison between the two. This video is not sponsored! I hope you enjoy the video.
    Chapters to help assist your viewing pleasure!
    0:00 Intro & Stay for Promo Code
    2:29 Unboxing
    3:52 Chair Unwrapped
    5:13 First time sitting in the chair
    5:37 Armrests
    8:01 Side Latches
    10:28 Sit Cris Cross & no headrest
    11:10 Lumbar & Back Support
    14:35 Lean Back Latch and Demo
    17:30 Seat
    19:57 Sitting at my desk
    22:41 Booklet
    23:50 5% PROMO CODE (I'm sure you skipped to here lol)
    25:31 Why I got the chair and final thoughts
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  • @nikgupta2331
    @nikgupta2331 11 дней назад

    Broo… I was at the showroom testing out the embody gaming and cluncking around when trying to move the arm rest and seat extension. Watching you simply pull and move both effortlessly was mind-blowing and so helpful. Thank you! Just ordered mine as they’re currently 20% percent off right now on the HM website. Appreciate this review and hope it’s still treating you well!

  • @lionvader
    @lionvader 2 месяца назад +2

    Dude, great video. I've also watched like 20+ reviews from "big professional" RUclipsr's, with all the pro and con videos and tons of different comparisons.
    But none of them were as hands on and real from a buyer experience pov like yours. Well done!

  • @LongestYardstick
    @LongestYardstick Год назад +11

    you don't gotta worry so much about your vids vs other youtubers man, this video was presented incredibly well, was super helpful, and enjoyable to watch. i think you could have an incredibly successful consumer experience/unboxing channel and i'm already subscribed -- you make great videos!

  • @gokzilla
    @gokzilla Год назад +1

    I now finaly get the Embody and i love it. Thanks for you Video.

  • @itbutcher1838
    @itbutcher1838 Год назад +1

    Watched many reviews, was on the fence of getting it, but your review helped me decide. Definitely ordering it.

  • @wsturaro
    @wsturaro 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video ! helped me out ! Cheers man !

  • @ewliang
    @ewliang 8 месяцев назад +1

    Love how you even do the criss-cross apple sauce demonstration as well as a very in depth detailed review of the lumbar/back adjustment review (which also makes a great demonstration of the upright capabilities of the chair which other youtubers fail to highlight properly). This video demystifies some of the potential reasons why I read online reviews of peeps saying the embody pokes their back. This increases my confidence in going Embody over Leap V2 even more.

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  8 месяцев назад

      I'm happy to hear that this video is still helping many people out on their choice! If you do get the chair I definitely hope you enjoy it as much as I do as I have had it for close to a year now. These chairs are very super expensive and the last thing I want is someone regretting their purchase. Thank you for watching!

  • @jbmeboi
    @jbmeboi 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Much appreciated.

  • @se7venfold798
    @se7venfold798 Год назад +2

    Great review guy. Details you highlighted were awesome

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      Thank you! 🫡 I know it's not as detailed or professional looking as other RUclipsrs but at least wanted to put something out there. At least from someone who worked a lot of overtime to get this lol

  • @palmz4060
    @palmz4060 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks mate, great video

  • @seanli4261
    @seanli4261 Год назад +1

    bro, i really enjoyed the video. esp when you pointed out that noise part can be almost avoided by doing it right. AND the additional 5% saving, i ordered it and about to call them to get the 5%! thanks again!

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Yeah I seen so many videos where no one addressed that noise. Or the correct way to do it. No offense to them by any means, I only found that out because I read some of the comments sections. I think we managed to get the 5% off so I'm glad I managed to bring it to you guys while the sale is still going. I hope you enjoy the chair my friend!

  • @johnlungo8080
    @johnlungo8080 7 месяцев назад +1

    I just want to say that your code still worked even during the Black Friday sale. Saved me an extra $100!

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  7 месяцев назад +1

      Oh dang really!?? Hell yeah!! 👏🏾👏🏾

  • @LongestYardstick
    @LongestYardstick Год назад

    mic sounds good my dude! just got the regular embody (non-gaming) and am fkin stoked for it to arrive

  • @nzoabc
    @nzoabc Год назад

    Great review. Thanks. Hope you could review Aeron as well.

  • @atiffalcon
    @atiffalcon 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice honest review.

  • @undeadminer3079
    @undeadminer3079 Год назад +6

    Props to you for giving us that 5% off promo code, you're a real one

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад +2

      I had too bro. I know these chairs are expensive AF and when I found out about the code and I was late on it I do not want them making the same mistake lol. Thankfully they credited my account the 5% after.

    • @adrian93317
      @adrian93317 Год назад

      @@GGGryphonZ did you call them or just email. I ordered last night and just saw your video this morning SMH

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад +1

      I emailed them first, but the next day I called them and they did it right then.

  • @butterflyscreams1965
    @butterflyscreams1965 Год назад

    liked and subscribed for the no-bias review thanks. just ordered mine

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      Thank you! Hope you enjoy it!

  • @sauceyballs
    @sauceyballs 8 месяцев назад +1

    Got this chair last week more on impulse than anything. Sore ass tailbone pain burning thighs lower back pain. But now all that is easing up starting to feel a bit more comfortable as the days go on. Definitely a bit warmer than my aeron but I’m adjusting.

  • @chriskittredge8329
    @chriskittredge8329 Год назад

    Great review, love all the details you presented! I just ordered one after sitting in one in the Atlanta showroom and being blown away! I was concerned that I would be too tall for it, at 6'5, but it seemed to fit me well in the showroom. I currently have a Maingear GT MKII from Micro Center (still within the 30 day return period) and I feel like it might be too firm, especially compared to the Embody. From what I can tell, the Maingear is very similar to the Secretlab Titan Evo, which was the other option I was considering. Main uses are programming work (8+ hours a day) along with PC gaming. Hoping for the best when it arrives and will probably also get the headrest from Atlas

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      Thank you very much, and thank you very much for that explanation as well. I'm glad that you was able to at least sit in it before purchasing it unlike myself. I was only able to go off reviews I just hoped for the best. I was definitely always concerned with people who are very tall sitting in this chair because it looks like a chair for people of my height maybe a tiny bit taller, but you're almost a whole foot taller than I am lol. Having the secret lab for over a year and sitting it just for PC gaming is fine and all but it can be a little bit iffy when you work from home and PC game on the side as well. The embody is definitely a great chair. The only thing I had to do was get armrest cushions for it as the ones that came with it can definitely be a problem for the elbows after a while. I pre-ordered the headrest from Atlas and definitely looking forward to trying that out.

  • @mathieubellavance2506
    @mathieubellavance2506 8 месяцев назад

    I just ordered this exact chair and watching all the videos 😂
    I had bought a haworth fern and after two weeks I really wasnt a fan of the seat, when moving the seat forward (im 6'2) there was a huge gap behind the seat. Cant wait for this one!

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  8 месяцев назад +1

      Nice!! I hope you enjoy the chair. Considering you're tall idk how the embody would do but I hope it serves you well!

  • @matttan4404
    @matttan4404 Год назад +4

    Came from a SecretLab Omega as well and when I tried it out at the showroom, I was just blown away. Showroom rep also mentioned to lift then shift the arm rests. The other RUclipsrs really should have corrected/updated their videos about it.
    Got my regular emobdy just yesterday and i'm really digging the chair!

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад +1

      Hell yeah, I love the secret lab chair but I can't sugar coat that there were some things a bit uncomfortable in it. I will always keep it because it's still a good chair. The embody is absolutely 🔥. Glad you managed to get yours my friend. And yeah, I still haven't seen a video where they talked about the arm shift correctly. Not even a comment. I found that out from reading a comment section. No disrespect to them as I'm sure they didn't know, but they could've left a comment, or pinned a comment, or mentioned it in a update video lol.

    • @matttan4404
      @matttan4404 Год назад

      @@GGGryphonZ Do you notice any neck tension after sitting in your embody for some hours? I guess coming off the reliance of a headrest on the SecretLab, I still need to get used to not having 1

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад +1

      Personally, not yet. Having no headrest hasn't bothered me too much like I thought it would. Even coming from a secret labs as well. I do know about Atlas making a headrest for these. I will invest in that though I don't necessarily need it. But it is nice to have when you do want a lounge back a bit

  • @cartography3804
    @cartography3804 3 месяца назад +1

    This was one of the best reviews for the arm rest demo. Based on your elbow angle, it didn’t quite look 90 degrees.
    But if you did make them 90 degrees, would your armrest hit against your desk edge?
    The lack of arm rest forward and back retraction is what I’m wondering will work for me

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  3 месяца назад

      For me yes. At the 90° angle, it does hit the edge of the desk. I personally don't mind that as I personally like it to be even so I can rest my whole arm and have a comfortable rest when I use my KB&M. I do hope that answer helps you in anyway 🫡

    • @cartography3804
      @cartography3804 3 месяца назад

      Yes thank you! 😀

  • @jorgeatencio1130
    @jorgeatencio1130 Год назад

    Getting mine today, im super excited. Btw Spring sale is on right now for 15% plus an additional 5%

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      Hell yeah bro! I didn't know there was another sale. This chair is legit

  • @animeboyzx6403
    @animeboyzx6403 Год назад

    Also got this chair delivered today man is it comfortable much softer than the secretlabs feels good looks nice. Man that box was huge was concerned wasn't able to get it in the door lol

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад +1

      LOL well big box was well worth it with a chair already assembled! Definitely a comfortable chair. Still not worth the price tag but compared to the secret lab it's a game changer

    • @animeboyzx6403
      @animeboyzx6403 Год назад

      @@GGGryphonZ yeah that price though sheeesh bought when hm had the black friday sale did see that much a diffence price shoulda been 1500 and then a sale but 1800 for a chair damn lol. also paying off in installments lol

  • @rcio29
    @rcio29 8 месяцев назад

    God damn good video

  • @zeffmalchazeen3429
    @zeffmalchazeen3429 5 месяцев назад

    I read that newer models have less squeaking. When I tried this at our local showroom two weeks ago, it squeaks a lot, like by the time you lean back it squeaks. Probably an older unit because it was the only sample there and was being used by their boss. I also tried the Aeron remaster, it was good

  • @neilranada
    @neilranada Год назад

    I've been doing a marathon of ergo chair videos the past few days for the Herman Millar Embody, Haworth Fern, Haworth Zody II, Steel Case Leap V2, Steelcase Amia. I'm also prior military now trying to save my back working from home.
    This is the best review of the Embody chair. I'm also 5'7". I liked how you showed the details of how you sit and the arm rests at your standing desk. I prefer to sit up straight or perched a little forward while working. Was the chair locked in the most upright position at the time?

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      Hello, thank you for the comment! Thank you for your service as well. To answer your question, yes it was.

  • @beastmom4565
    @beastmom4565 Год назад

    Nice chair. I would actually like to see a 3 month review. I like that you didn’t have to put anything together.

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      Right!? That was 🔥 Definitely a great plus considering what you play

  • @leonhantz6383
    @leonhantz6383 Год назад

    Got mine from a black Friday deal, had it about 3 weeks now, it does not impress straight away, but I am finding it better as time goes on. No way would I go back now! Good review though

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      I definitely understand what you mean. It felt good on the initial sit down, but I definitely had to get used to the arm rests and find the right height. It is nice, but I will always stand it's definitely not worth The price tag. But I understand the phrase pay to play lol. Thank you for watching as well! 🫡

  • @deprod9109
    @deprod9109 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you, bro from Ukraine 🇺🇦
    Super helpful video ever!!!
    Bless you!!

  • @aaronmiller4871
    @aaronmiller4871 5 месяцев назад

    I'm doing the same thing, and somehow the price has increased a boatload since you uploaded lol. But I just turned 41 and I'm looking to up my gaming rig from a secret labs titan 2022 to this because the titan doesnt feel great.

  • @ginkage5863
    @ginkage5863 Год назад

    As long you’re happy and comfy 😆

  • @NotYourAvgArtist
    @NotYourAvgArtist 5 месяцев назад

    Hi, really nice review! Although I have a question, are there any issues with squeaks and noises cuz I’ve heard a bunch of people complaining about the noise which kind of held me back from getting the chair so yeah I’m kind of worried.

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  5 месяцев назад

      13:50 I mentioned the noise the chair makes but yeah my mic didn't pick up much 🤣. When leaning back in the chair, you don't really hear anything. However, when you're moving side to side, yeah there's some noise. Not annoyingly but there is some. It doesn't necessarily bother me but if you look for the noise, most definitely you'll hear it. I usually have headphones or speakers when I'm gaming in this chair so I don't focus on it or anything. Hope that helps your decision! 💪🏾

    • @kipperrd8964
      @kipperrd8964 3 месяца назад

      Hey, I actually just had mine delivered yesterday. I was also wondering how bad the noise was going to be but to my surprise…there’s is actually zero noise lol. I don’t know if they addressed it at a manufacturing level or if the noise seemed so pronounced on RUclips because they’re using microphones. I don’t know if you have one yet or not but I can tell you as of one day sitting in the chair I’m not impressed enough to keep it. I’m going to give it a couple of weeks before I make a decision but I’m 6’1 230lbs and my butt keeps falling asleep and my tailbone was hurting after just 40-45 minutes on the chair. Anyway I don’t want to write too much but if you have any questions let me know. Good luck.

    • @NotYourAvgArtist
      @NotYourAvgArtist 3 месяца назад +1

      @@kipperrd8964 Thank you so much for the information, and I’ll make sure to update you with more questions if I can, bye.

  • @RiseUpFightForRight
    @RiseUpFightForRight Год назад

    What track is playing during the armrest section?? It’s so calming

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад +1

      Ah good ear! It's called Aquatic Ambience. From a game called Donkey Kong Country 🤙🏾

    • @RiseUpFightForRight
      @RiseUpFightForRight Год назад

      @@GGGryphonZ Bro last night i put on my headset and went to another world listening to this track.. Thanks!

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      My pleasure! One of greatest songs in video games. Glad you enjoyed! 🤙🏾

  • @namiokhovatian9865
    @namiokhovatian9865 Год назад

    COOL VIDEO REMEMBER ME FROM THE STREAM+ good vibes

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      Thank you! And yes! I remember you! 😁😁😁

  • @ddp7058
    @ddp7058 Год назад +1

    Just got myn and my squeak is minimal too

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      Even after having it for a few months, squeak is still the same for me as well. I get why it's mentioned but it's not distracting

  • @Brando-_-440
    @Brando-_-440 Год назад

    "hours of assembly..." lol. but yeah i was looking at secret labs chairs and bought this one instead. A car seat for a gaming chair just doesn't make sense to me at all for comfort... I can't compare but I upgraded from a serta chair from sam's club that put my ass to sleep in 2 hours and literally crumbled apart within 15 months of using 4 or 5 hours a day. This thing is nice.

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад +1

      I respect the gaming chair style looking like a racing car seat. It's mainly going for aesthetic reasons and such. However, in the long run, if you're a gamer and you know you're going to be sitting down for a while the investment for a good chair is definitely worth it. Don't get me wrong, I'm still a firm believer that nose chairs should cause this much however I understand the work that was done to make this chair. "Got to pay to play" as I always say. I still love my secret lab chair and I still have it, but the embody gaming chair is definitely top tier and worth it. 🤙🏾

  • @AM-ir4qb
    @AM-ir4qb Год назад

    I'm also considering buying a chair from this company but I'm having a hard time deciding which model to get

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      Understandable. Alot of their chairs are top tier. It was either of this chair or the Aeron but in our offices in the military that's all they had so I went with this one. No regrets

  • @s_tyagi
    @s_tyagi Месяц назад

    i heard a lot of people recieve shoulder pain from this chair because it keeps them pushed forward, did you have that experience?

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Месяц назад

      I have not experienced any shoulder pain.

  • @jzjz3353
    @jzjz3353 Год назад +1

    that looks so comfortable as long as you feel good and relaxed while video gaming that's all it matters

  • @JohnSmith-zl8rz
    @JohnSmith-zl8rz Год назад

    You forgot mention the rollers, looks like have problems due the carpet.

  • @rafasaosin
    @rafasaosin 5 месяцев назад

    Having both the evo titan and the embody which one would you recommend strictly for gaming?

  • @Snxgur
    @Snxgur 8 дней назад

    i prefer the secretlabs wayy more, embody seat so painful

  • @danieltravis7962
    @danieltravis7962 10 месяцев назад

    @GGGryhonZ Came across your video on the Embody. So my question is 9 months later are you still happy with it? Just like you, I work from home and Game at night. Looking for a better chair than my Secret Labs as my hips and back are killing me.

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yessir! Used it everyday since that video and I can say for certain I love it. Secret labs is cool... Aesthetically. However, as a long run chair it's not. I know exactly what you're going through with that chair. Haven't had any issues with the embody.

    • @danieltravis7962
      @danieltravis7962 10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the reply / response much appericated!

  • @billpaxton1345
    @billpaxton1345 Год назад +1

    I've had this chair for about a month. I don't get the cons the "noise" many people complain about? I was iffy about no headrest but atlas is making one if needed, I don't really use it.

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      The noiseThe noise that I have experienced on it isn't even too bad personally for me so I can't really call it a con. As for the headrest I did pre-order that. Not that I need it but it would be nice to have

  • @leonard.nicolae
    @leonard.nicolae 8 месяцев назад

    Do you miss the SecretLab headrest ?

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  8 месяцев назад +1

      Now that I got a headrest for the embody, no I don't miss it anymore. I was able to cope without it before but now that Atlas Headrest made a great headrest for the embody, it's definitely a game changer

  • @FuckYoutubeHandles
    @FuckYoutubeHandles 9 месяцев назад

    Do you still have the embody? If so how is it?

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  9 месяцев назад +1

      I do! After almost a full year this chair is definitely the best chair I've owned. I STILL believe the price is crazy even though I understand the research and thought process that was put into making the chair. Considering I'm only 5'7 the chair fits me perfectly. Anyone in the taller category, I personally cannot say. What I will say though, the chair by itself is top tier but if anyone was willing to upgrade it a bit and get the headrest that another company named Atlas headrest made for the chair, it's definitely the way to go. I mainly bought it for my back, I can definitely say I haven't had any back trouble since getting the chairs when I'm always home. If you're a big gamer or someone who does a lot of work in the chair I highly recommend it. But if someone isn't going to use the chair as much as that or if they're not working from home like myself, I highly recommend going a different route considering the price. 🫡

  • @JohnSmith-zl8rz
    @JohnSmith-zl8rz Год назад

    you are right, nobody mention the arms movement, overall this video is better than many other "pro" videos, thank you!
    ps: just remove the background music, is distracting and I can't hear your voice well.

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      Thank you very much and will do! Love the feedback! 😁

  • @bryankerr6725
    @bryankerr6725 Месяц назад

    Why does everyone say this cost around 1500, but when I go to the website it says 2000

  • @qorky9043
    @qorky9043 Год назад

    The code doesnt matter cus literally there is the code CYBER5 under your cart and you can’t add the other code to it so yeah

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад +2

      Funny I just saw that Cyber5 code when I was on Instagram. So I think this is HM way of automatically adding a code since most didn't know about the previous one.

  • @CaffeineInjected
    @CaffeineInjected 9 месяцев назад

    sorry code no longer works

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  9 месяцев назад

      Yeah that was for last year unfortunately.

  • @-Venemic
    @-Venemic 8 месяцев назад

    Did I just hear danganronpa music lmao

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  8 месяцев назад

      Lol love the OST in the games. Fit well for videos 🤣

  • @ryu7055
    @ryu7055 Год назад

    For a $1700 chair its upsetting it doesnt have a headrest

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      You're absolutely right. Though I'm okay as that hasn't been an issue for me, In the little time that I have had it I have caught myself trying to lean back into it a little bit.

    • @voodoodisco
      @voodoodisco Год назад

      Doesn't need a head rest. It's made to support your body in a way that won't hurt you.

  • @animeboyzx6403
    @animeboyzx6403 Год назад

    I see waifu mousepad I like

  • @dickalonius
    @dickalonius Год назад

    Curved monitor review

  • @topazsweetpeamuffin
    @topazsweetpeamuffin Год назад

    hey buddy...I also have a Secretlabs Titan 2020 and I just ordered the regular version of the Embody...mine is expected to arrive March 10, 2023....14 weeks wait...I love my Secretlabs and will also be keeping it...but as you said, I feel this is my only chance to ever be able to grab a new Embody given that the prices will keep on going up fast with all this inflation, and this is the biggest discount Herman Miller has ever had, so I decided to take the plunge on this...by the way, I have watched at least 30 reviews on this chair and one of the RUclips chair reviewers named Ahnestly showed that he is using a nice new very soft arm pad that will fit with the arms on the Embody...I already have this arm pad on another chair and I knew it is so incredibly soft, so I was really excited to see Anhestly says that it also fits the Embody as well...anyways, I make nothing from posting this but I enjoy your video and your excitement for your new chair as I am for mine so I thought I would put a link to the arm pads here if you would also like to try them...thanks for the review! www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M8F9IYC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      Yup! I have those armrests now thanks to his video! They're 100% worth it! Thank you for an awesome comment and checking out the video! 😊😊

  • @vloneseraph
    @vloneseraph Год назад

    how you feel about the seatpan over time?

    • @GGGryphonZ
      @GGGryphonZ  Год назад

      So far so good. Haven't had any discomfort or anything. Considering the bottom is kind of like a spring like feature where it's not firm, it basically shapes the form of your body if that makes sense. So being at work and sitting on it for hours is no issue. Though it is always healthy to stand up every so often after sitting for long periods of time though. That goes for any chair!

    • @vloneseraph
      @vloneseraph Год назад

      @@GGGryphonZ idk why i feel like the edges of the seatpan are kinda stiff, like the outer edges. I guess im kinda wide.