I just want to say thanks for making great videos. With other drum reviews/info, I find myself clicking around the video trying to find information because they talk about nothing for 3 minutes, talk about their opinions without giving facts, and then ramble on about nothing. With your videos, you say what's important and you're to the point. What you have to say is important to the review without being boring/unimportant/unnecessary. Thanks for the great content.
I have a pair of the 12" version and I love them. I got lucky though, I bought an electronic set and one Simmons speaker. Musicians Friend screwed me over on the delivery time over and over, so eventually they made it right by giving me the second amp for no cost. So I got both of them for only $309 total.
lol I've been beating my head against the wall for years trying to make this wood paneled basement look interesting. Experimenting with lights and angles to see what works. It's not a big space
@@65Drums meh, the wood paneled basement is kinda your thing, haha. Everyone is used to it and loves it. But I beg to differ you saying it's not big. The fact that you have a full drum kit, multiple amps and stacks of other drums basically all around you in there makes it HUGE by Brooklyn standards, haha. The one room is probably bigger than my entire apartment, lol.
7:14 - Haha, this is where I come in. I play electric drums. I am also an self proclaimed 'audiophile' where I am critical about sound quality, especially in live performance. There isn't a speaker that is commercially produced that gives drummers high quality without having to buy a complete JBL multi-component system. I managed to do it. Building two cabinets the size of most Peavy and JBL cabinets, I configured a custom that would satisfy even the most critical drummer or sound engineer. Addressing this video and the Simmons products, this was an honest, spot-on opinion of something any drummer can go out and buy, and have it be a decent product. I like how you compiled the comparisons, it was EZ and relatable.
This review is pretty spot on. The 8 inch speaker version is pretty mediocre. I bought one, played it for about 10 minutes. Then, boxed it back up and returned it for another Headrush FRFR 108 which is about 30 dollars more, but so much better quality.
They are rebranded Harbingers with a custom front end. The subwoofer is identical with no modifications except a different front grill. If you like the Harbinger sound this is what you'll get. Similarly the Alesis are rebranded Altos
I'd love to see a video on how to quickly set up a kit exactly the way you took it down. What memory locks, etc., are available and worth buying, and any other tips.
I just got the DA2112 included with a used set of Alesis Surge drums. I am not sure if it has enough push for a small gig or not. Overall he is dead on this description for this amp. It does sound pretty good but I still find myself having trouble from keeping it clipping. ( Yes I know,,back the low freqs off ) I think the secret here is to run two of these for a small live gig performance of which I will probably do that even if my kit never sees the light of day. Life long acoustic drummer I am. Bought this set up for home practice in the first place which is great! Bottom line just buy the DA2112 and be done with it or buy two. The options by far, are great on the DA2112.
Grateful for your insightful and honest reviews, Justin. I read a review from a user forum suggesting the 2112 was subpar to the 2012; since you’ve reviewed both, can you offer any general opinion of the two, whether flat or dialed-in (optimally for each specifically) EQ is applied?
Everyone on your facebook group insists these drum monitors all sound like crap. I just want to avoid having to get a mixer and I'm so confused as to what I can get that will sound okay for home and jam use without breaking the bank.
The flagship speakers headphone Out selector is a useful feature. But you made no mention for the reason for the headphone out selection. I believe that the selection is when the a click track is used. So that only the headphone output and not the main output will have the click track.
A couple questions - do all 3 have the sub out? If you use the sub out does it completely cut the low from the simmons speaker? If so, would that allow for more volume to the other frequencies?
Hi Justin, thanks for the review. Your opinion is the DA2112 is “Middle of the Road”. What Drum Amp would you say is top end and best quality sound? Tnx.
I bought a DA2110 for a small gig and it was woefully underpowered. I had to crank the volume on Titan 50 module and on the amp to max and it still wasn't loud enough. I'm not convinced the DA2112 will be much better so does anyone have a recommendation for an amp or powered speaker with some serious punch? Would like to keep it simple (single unit) for small gigs.
So, I'm just curious. If I needed an amp to act as a monitor during live shows and only needed amplification for some hybrid drumming effects (a few Rolands mounted on an acoustic kit to add effects), would the 2108 be enough?
Any opinion which is better: Simmons 2112 or Alesis Strike Amp 12? They're the exact same price. Simmons has more features (Bluetooth, etc.), but which sounds best?
I am considering either the Alesis Strike 8 amp or the Simmons DA2108 amp to be used for practice and as an onstage personal monitor. I've watched both of your videos and was curious which in your opinion would be a better fit for this role? When playing live it would not be my primary source of amplification (I go through the house pa) so I don't need anything big.
Haven’t heard the Strike 8, but I am really happy with the sound quality of the Simmons DA2108. Gets plenty of loud, deep enough bass for jamming in my house, and pretty clean sound. I just bought the DA2108 for $143.99. At $299 Alesis can go bleep themselves.
We are a company in Sydney, AU - looking at release of genuinely new product in about 3-5 months. I believe we have solved a lot of this mess - particularly for smaller venues and where the drummer can do without a huge LUG. I sat about 7 feet from a K2.12 at a Lebanese wedding 3 weeks ago....sweet sound, but cut my ears off! We've gone a very different way with driver and material selection and put much R & D into crossovers and amp selection. I hope we can add something useful to this whole conversation, but you are dead-on. Most e-drummers pay what, USD $4,000 to $6000, plus miles of research - then expect a plastic wedge from a Chinese factory bring it all together? Cheers.
Wow cool sound good I just got the Behringer DR112DSP with my Alesis surge kit came as a bundle yesterday hope it's good enough for the Kit will be buying The Command or Alesis DM10 module but one will be best? Ty for posting
Hello Justin is there any information out there about new Roland modules I have the td-17 and wanted to upgrade to at least the td27 or maybe the td50 but don’t want to buy then be annoyed if a new module comes out can you help Rich
That direct-out jack on the back looks like it is intended to be the subwoofer connection, but I don't see any frequency selectors. Is the Simmons still trying to reproduce all the frequencies, including the ones it is sending to the sub?
Yo Justin! Glad to see you are making more recent videos. I’ve watched all of your episodes and you helped me narrow down the kit I finally decided on. I picked the VAD506 and paid more for it over the Alesis pro Se after reading reviews about their high hat problems. Sure enough when I went to guitar center and played it, the high hat was totally mis-triggering and that was it for me! So now I need a speaker and this video is perfect for my scenario. Just one important thing has been really annoying about the Td27 module I have has Bluetooth but I found out it’s *IN ONLY! So frustrating this is the case right? So these Bluetooth speakers won’t play the sounds from the drums wireless and only via a cord I guess? Is there a way to get the Bluetooth to work going “out?” Thanks man, Brian
I have a 2020 alesis strike pro se Guitar Center is not the place to test Edrums for sure. They have no seriously trained tech guys like Sweetwater music would in Indiana. Heck I went in today to look at a Simmons amp and they hand cables wrapped up horribly around mic stands and cymbals not firing at all and the mixer board completely peaked put. So you got a horrible demo I'm positive by some high school kid or close. He probably had no more than 2 month work experience there. My kit plus Hihat is spot on I read my directions.
Arturo I have the Simmons one that is a year or 2 old.. He shows them at the beginning.. Get the big one.. It has a lot of bass and great mids and treble.. I can get you the model number if you need it..
Arturo also a great set of headphones is the seinheizer 280 pro.. They are around 100 and sound as good as 500 headphones.. Sweetwater normally has these.. You can every little detail it's a game changer..
I saw a comment in another review that stated that the simmons da2112 is not as powerful as its predecessor, the simmons da2012. What is your opinion on that? I know you've had both now. I was going to get one of the 2112's to pair up with my 2012, but now I'm wondering if i should just get another 2012. Thanks!
What do you think about thr cheaper kits like alesis nitro or the few better ones or millenium mps-750x and 850. They look better and have bigger drums for example independent hi hats or 10-12" snares. Do you think they are worth it or should I buy they seemingly "worse" kits from roland or yamaha for the same price
I just have A SINGLE 2112 amp that I just bought . I turn the td 30 full blast and the 2112 full blast and it is more than load enough for practice but I cant imagine in cutting through the mix with a band. What gives? Strangely enough I connect the bluetooth and its got about 25% more volume. I have to turn that down. All the kits are full volume on the Roland.
Is something else required besides the power cord to turn this thing on? Just got the 2108 and it will not power on. Voltage is set correctly to my outlets. No power light indicators, you think it’s dead on arrival? I have the brain of e kit running a 1/4” mono to mono input on back of speaker. No power.
Sup Jus Been following for a while. Would you buy a Roland TD-1DMKX or ALESIS strike drum module?? (Same price as new) I have a super upgraded "Nitro" and module sound still sucks..:( Thanks and appreciate you
Hey Justin thanks, as always, for the great videos. I got 1 DA2112 to try out and it does not seem very loud at all. I mean its loud enough at home when practicing but live (just a small party in my back yard)....I have to max it out to get anything and cover the tapping sound on my pads. It just seems weak to me...maybe I'm missing something. I thought, well I better get a second one and a sub woofer if I'm going to take this into clubs or events. I'm just worried I'll sink more into these and not get quite what I want. Is there a way these can be amplified more? Will a 2nd one with a sub woofer improve the volume/power? I don't need anything super powerful but it does need to hold up to at least my club gigs. Thoughts or suggestions would be very helpful in making my next move. Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
I recently purchased a DA2112 and am thinking the same thing to myself. I thought it would be a lot louder than it is. I’m wondering if I’m doing something wrong or it just is what it is. Did you end up purchasing a secondary amplifier and sub?? If so is it that much louder??
I’m still unsatisfied and won’t sink more into these. I’m keeping this for practice at my house but I’m in the market for a small PA system for gigs. Just asking around to see what the pros are using
@@xCANCEROUSJAEx Please let me know what else you're looking at or hear about. I still haven't decided. If anyone else has had this experience and has suggestions I invite you to join in on the conversation.
@@codersexpo1580 I've still gotta do more research about this speaker because when my phone is hooked up to it via bluetooth it plays songs or audio incredibly loud. So loud that if i have the master volume on the 2112 all the way up I only need to have my phone at volume level 1 or 2 and its loud enough to enjoy ( anything higher than 2 is too loud). its weird to me that I don't seem to get that same level of audio running the Titan 70 through it. I wondering If i need to run a certain type of instrument cable through it to make it louder but idk that seems like you shouldn't have to do that. If i cant find any more info online im just going to contact Simmons and see what they recommend. I don't wanna give up on the speaker yet, especially after hearing songs played through it on my phone. We will see what happens.
I went with the DA2112 and like it. Like you said, it takes time to EQ everything or it sounds pretty lifeless out of the box. I also like that I can use it as a general PA speaker for music or other things.
What module you using? Quite a few modules have very good individual pad EQ now, I bought the Yamaha DTX-6 which has 4 band SWEEPABLE EQ per pad - this is where you can really get your sounds to shine. The end of chain speaker EQ is pretty broad and agricultural. Pad EQ will drop to lower price modules over time.
I bought the same set and love them, mine do double duty as well. I put them both on a box with an industrial lazy Susan, and that way I can just spin them round for playing and back the other way at my desk when they're used as stereo/computer speakers, it's perfect, very easy to point them where you want. I spin them right round right round right. Oh I am sorry for that last part.
Does these amps and speakers work with acoustic drums? Everything is talking about electronic drums It’s like no one is talking about how to amplify acoustic drums 90% of the people I hang around don’t play electric drums. We play acoustic drums. 8:28
Hi Justin, i'm quite confused with your sentence saying that if you have old drum module without bluetooth you can connect those simmons sprakers throuh built in bluetooth. If the drum module doesn't have bluetooth emiter how is it possible? 0:59
What I meant is Bluetooth for your phone, NOT the drums. Connect the drums with cables, and pair your phone to the speater via bluetooth. Otherwise you'll need an aux cable with a Lightning/USB-C adapter going into the Mix-In of your module.
@@65Drums so this be useful only to get the backing track directly from the simmons speakers instead of from the module? Not much of an advantage? Or you are thinking of sth elese? Cheers
Hey bud - Great videos. I have electric drums that I bought a couple of months ago (Roland TD 30 KV). Can you kindly recommend me any online drum school? Due to lockdown, I can't go out for f2f drum classes. I prefer to learn it online. I am absolute beginner. Google Search showed me DRUMEO, but not sure how is it? Appreciate your recommendations.. many thanks
Just a thought of a video that may make 🤔 a lot of views. I just upgraded from a TD-3 that slowly evolved into a real set for adding easy drum tracks in video production of live music and dance 💃. Well, hoping to expand the inputs of the new TD-27 for the extra rototoms, cowbell-wood and extra three zone cymbals. I was about to make splitters to expand off the Tom's for the rototoms but thought about getting a Ddrum DDTI and going midi through the TD-27. Anyways, using audio from the TD-3 is not what works for MIDI into Abelton Studio. Is there a better option to expand the inputs through the TD-27? $170 for the DDTI. Thanks.
@@matenorth Yes, I am using the TD-3 as the off the rim channels of the four Toms the fourth being auxiliary #1 of the TD-27. My complaint was I thought I did an exhaustive research before getting the TD-27 and somehow I got mixed up thinking it's inputs could be expanded with a second module. 😳 I was so sure I knew what I decided I was surprised that I was so lost in the point of only having twelve inputs. I have seemed to gain one to 13 by using the Hihat one from the TD-3 with the right midi note assigned. I assigned five inputs from the 3 to the 27. So, I have the snare, kick, hihat, 4 toms, 3 rototoms, three crashes and 2 three zone rides. Some trickery to make it work. Not, 100% but, with a foot switch I have it working.
@@xr680r I see. You can connect both of them to a midi interface and then to pc with usb. I have a Roland UM-2G for this to connect a TD-3 and a TD-4. The UM-2G has a special driver which works jitter-free with roland modules. Cant wait to buy a TD-17 as my main one and keep the td-4 as a slave because my rig is very 00''s.
@@matenorth What started this was a live video of a preformed music that the person did not keep tempo from beginning to end of the original track music so, the idea was to dub in a drum and bass track with the video. In the end, I went from a TD-3 to a TD-27. The project is still all buggy but I have a better module. I was using the TD-3 with USB into Abelton 10 Studio and the little I used it as a MIDI controller for drums, along with my Aturia Keylab to make some background tracks for videos but, it's all escalated into less latency and stuff, so the new module. I think it was a an excuse to get a better drum setup so I would have to become better at drumming? Heck, sometimes I wonder...... Anyways, I wanted all the inputs to be the same TD-27 sounds, latency not two modules playing VST's through Abelton. The idea was to play along with the prerecorded track that didn't keep time. It was recorded at the beach with five video cameras going and we are not going to redo the shoot. So I got this not so bright idea of fixing the sound to go with the video.
Hey man, got a question for you. I’ve been playing acoustic drums for about 20 years but I don’t know shit about electric drums. I want to buy one so I don’t cause my neighbors to conspire against me lol. If you had a budget of around 3k, maybe slightly more, what current electric kit would you buy? Thanks!
Alesis strike pro se from Sweetwater music they throw in a few freebees too. Kits just under $2700. Been jamming mine since Chistmas having a blast.love the Tom's, very deep. Snare's are snappy base drum responds like an acoustic beast. Read up on it the drumkits are awesome I find something new everytime I go in.
@@tbublz I’m about to buy the Strike Pro SE. Can you the drums like you would an acoustic kit? So basically, if a snare was too low pitched on a set, could a tune it higher? I can’t find any info on this online
I used to work at the stage hand in the concert industry. So when I say “pro”, I’m talking about touring industry level brands like Meyer. Mid level brands are like JBL
@@65Drums Thanks. I have a hybrid set i want to play live, kereoke style: me along with tunes... so, I'm looking for something that will be loud enough, and deep enough to go along with the acoustic aspect of the kit... is a Mackie thump with a 15" woofer a bad direction? I'd prefer to spend 3-times that, if the upgrade was sick.
I have ZERO confidence in anything with the Simmons name on it lately. Have you EVER played a Simmons kit where all the triggers operated smoothly and as expected? So much hot spotting, intermittence or just plain old DYING after a few hours of use. Also, Simmons is now owned by the holding company (Ares Management) that owns now bankrupt Guitar Center, so I see that whole distribution/manufacturing channel going away sooner or later. I think Behringer makes the Simmonds drum aps.
@@garygnip4480 They emerged from Chapter 11 on December 23, 2021 after creditors including present owner, Ares Managemebt, wrote off >$800M in unsecured debt.
This is a great review. I remember when he only had like 50,000 subs, now he is close to 100,000. Keep up this amazing work. You deserve it.
I just want to say thanks for making great videos. With other drum reviews/info, I find myself clicking around the video trying to find information because they talk about nothing for 3 minutes, talk about their opinions without giving facts, and then ramble on about nothing. With your videos, you say what's important and you're to the point. What you have to say is important to the review without being boring/unimportant/unnecessary. Thanks for the great content.
Thanks dude!
Always very thorough reviews and to-the-point. TY!
I have a pair of the 12" version and I love them. I got lucky though, I bought an electronic set and one Simmons speaker. Musicians Friend screwed me over on the delivery time over and over, so eventually they made it right by giving me the second amp for no cost. So I got both of them for only $309 total.
I'm so envious of your space, haha.
lol I've been beating my head against the wall for years trying to make this wood paneled basement look interesting. Experimenting with lights and angles to see what works. It's not a big space
@@65Drums meh, the wood paneled basement is kinda your thing, haha. Everyone is used to it and loves it. But I beg to differ you saying it's not big. The fact that you have a full drum kit, multiple amps and stacks of other drums basically all around you in there makes it HUGE by Brooklyn standards, haha. The one room is probably bigger than my entire apartment, lol.
Hey man, just wanted to say thank so much for teaching me how to film drum covers. You’re awesome dude!
Happy to help!
7:14 - Haha, this is where I come in. I play electric drums. I am also an self proclaimed 'audiophile' where I am critical about sound quality, especially in live performance. There isn't a speaker that is commercially produced that gives drummers high quality without having to buy a complete JBL multi-component system. I managed to do it. Building two cabinets the size of most Peavy and JBL cabinets, I configured a custom that would satisfy even the most critical drummer or sound engineer. Addressing this video and the Simmons products, this was an honest, spot-on opinion of something any drummer can go out and buy, and have it be a decent product. I like how you compiled the comparisons, it was EZ and relatable.
This review is pretty spot on. The 8 inch speaker version is pretty mediocre. I bought one, played it for about 10 minutes. Then, boxed it back up and returned it for another Headrush FRFR 108 which is about 30 dollars more, but so much better quality.
They are rebranded Harbingers with a custom front end. The subwoofer is identical with no modifications except a different front grill. If you like the Harbinger sound this is what you'll get. Similarly the Alesis are rebranded Altos
Good review, very helpful for me!
How do they stack up to the Alessis Amp in terms of sound quality and volume?
I'd love to see a video on how to quickly set up a kit exactly the way you took it down. What memory locks, etc., are available and worth buying, and any other tips.
I just got the DA2112 included with a used set of Alesis Surge drums. I am not sure if it has enough push for a small gig or not. Overall he is dead on this description for this amp. It does sound pretty good but I still find myself having trouble from keeping it clipping. ( Yes I know,,back the low freqs off ) I think the secret here is to run two of these for a small live gig performance of which I will probably do that even if my kit never sees the light of day. Life long acoustic drummer I am. Bought this set up for home practice in the first place which is great! Bottom line just buy the DA2112 and be done with it or buy two. The options by far, are great on the DA2112.
Grateful for your insightful and honest reviews, Justin. I read a review from a user forum suggesting the 2112 was subpar to the 2012; since you’ve reviewed both, can you offer any general opinion of the two, whether flat or dialed-in (optimally for each specifically) EQ is applied?
I would also like to know this
Why do you think Simmons has EQ controls but the Alesis 12 doesn’t? Is there a massive advantage. Will be buying one in the next few weeks.
Love my Simmons DA200!
As always. Great review. Can you please please review the Millenium mps 850. Most of all the response of the hi-hat. More power man!
Everyone on your facebook group insists these drum monitors all sound like crap. I just want to avoid having to get a mixer and I'm so confused as to what I can get that will sound okay for home and jam use without breaking the bank.
The flagship speakers headphone
Out selector is a useful feature. But you made no mention for the reason for the headphone out selection.
I believe that the selection is when the a click track is used. So that only the headphone output and not the main output will have the click track.
Great vid as always
Appreciate it!
Great video , thank you for sharing Sir
Great video justin!!
Can you do another 'buy or pass ' vids? Thanks and keep up the good work!
A couple questions - do all 3 have the sub out? If you use the sub out does it completely cut the low from the simmons speaker? If so, would that allow for more volume to the other frequencies?
Hi Justin, thanks for the review. Your opinion is the DA2112 is “Middle of the Road”. What Drum Amp would you say is top end and best quality sound? Tnx.
I bought a DA2110 for a small gig and it was woefully underpowered. I had to crank the volume on Titan 50 module and on the amp to max and it still wasn't loud enough. I'm not convinced the DA2112 will be much better so does anyone have a recommendation for an amp or powered speaker with some serious punch? Would like to keep it simple (single unit) for small gigs.
So, I'm just curious. If I needed an amp to act as a monitor during live shows and only needed amplification for some hybrid drumming effects (a few Rolands mounted on an acoustic kit to add effects), would the 2108 be enough?
Any opinion which is better: Simmons 2112 or Alesis Strike Amp 12? They're the exact same price. Simmons has more features (Bluetooth, etc.), but which sounds best?
I am considering either the Alesis Strike 8 amp or the Simmons DA2108 amp to be used for practice and as an onstage personal monitor. I've watched both of your videos and was curious which in your opinion would be a better fit for this role? When playing live it would not be my primary source of amplification (I go through the house pa) so I don't need anything big.
Haven’t heard the Strike 8, but I am really happy with the sound quality of the Simmons DA2108. Gets plenty of loud, deep enough bass for jamming in my house, and pretty clean sound. I just bought the DA2108 for $143.99. At $299 Alesis can go bleep themselves.
I’d like to pick your brain about the best way to go from module to amp for optimal sound. I have the new DM10 and just bought the 2112.
I would also appreciate this
Great video !👍👍👍
Playing live you need a mixer, direct outs on the modu4 AND
PA speakers. I use QSC K12 & K2 12. DRUM AMPS WILL MAKE YOU MADE ON THE GIG.
We are a company in Sydney, AU - looking at release of genuinely new product in about 3-5 months. I believe we have solved a lot of this mess - particularly for smaller venues and where the drummer can do without a huge LUG. I sat about 7 feet from a K2.12 at a Lebanese wedding 3 weeks ago....sweet sound, but cut my ears off! We've gone a very different way with driver and material selection and put much R & D into crossovers and amp selection. I hope we can add something useful to this whole conversation, but you are dead-on. Most e-drummers pay what, USD $4,000 to $6000, plus miles of research - then expect a plastic wedge from a Chinese factory bring it all together? Cheers.
Wow cool sound good I just got the Behringer DR112DSP with my Alesis surge kit came as a bundle yesterday hope it's good enough for the Kit will be buying The Command or Alesis DM10 module but one will be best? Ty for posting
Hello Justin is there any information out there about new Roland modules I have the td-17 and wanted to upgrade to at least the td27 or maybe the td50 but don’t want to buy then be annoyed if a new module comes out can you help Rich
That direct-out jack on the back looks like it is intended to be the subwoofer connection, but I don't see any frequency selectors. Is the Simmons still trying to reproduce all the frequencies, including the ones it is sending to the sub?
Anyone have a prob where the volume is low after using bluetooth, then switching back to the cable into the drumset/and or switching outlets?
How does the da2112 compare to the Alesis Strike 12?
Alesis is muddy
Yo Justin! Glad to see you are making more recent videos. I’ve watched all of your episodes and you helped me narrow down the kit I finally decided on. I picked the VAD506 and paid more for it over the Alesis pro Se after reading reviews about their high hat problems. Sure enough when I went to guitar center and played it, the high hat was totally mis-triggering and that was it for me! So now I need a speaker and this video is perfect for my scenario. Just one important thing has been really annoying about the Td27 module I have has Bluetooth but I found out it’s *IN ONLY! So frustrating this is the case right? So these Bluetooth speakers won’t play the sounds from the drums wireless and only via a cord I guess? Is there a way to get the Bluetooth to work going “out?” Thanks man, Brian
I have a 2020 alesis strike pro se Guitar Center is not the place to test Edrums for sure. They have no seriously trained tech guys like Sweetwater music would in Indiana. Heck I went in today to look at a Simmons amp and they hand cables wrapped up horribly around mic stands and cymbals not firing at all and the mixer board completely peaked put. So you got a horrible demo I'm positive by some high school kid or close. He probably had no more than 2 month work experience there. My kit plus Hihat is spot on I read my directions.
@@tbublz wait there's a sweet water store in Indiana ???? I live there
Well fudge, I bought the da2012b a year ago and shoulda got this instead. I wish I had the controls on the front side
Do you recommend a wedge drum amp, (specifically the Roland PM200) or a pair of studio monitors, like Yamaha HS8s?
The older style Simmons sound great and have Bluetooth.. I love mine it makes my Roland rd 17 kv sound like a real acoustic drum set..
I have been waiting for this commment as i have a td 17kv but idk how to pick a drum amp that sounds great
Arturo I have the Simmons one that is a year or 2 old.. He shows them at the beginning.. Get the big one.. It has a lot of bass and great mids and treble.. I can get you the model number if you need it..
Arturo also a great set of headphones is the seinheizer 280 pro.. They are around 100 and sound as good as 500 headphones.. Sweetwater normally has these.. You can every little detail it's a game changer..
Those Sienheizer 280 or audiotechnicas 50mm drivers about 120 to 150. Both excellent for drums
I saw a comment in another review that stated that the simmons da2112 is not as powerful as its predecessor, the simmons da2012. What is your opinion on that? I know you've had both now. I was going to get one of the 2112's to pair up with my 2012, but now I'm wondering if i should just get another 2012. Thanks!
What do you think about thr cheaper kits like alesis nitro or the few better ones or millenium mps-750x and 850. They look better and have bigger drums for example independent hi hats or 10-12" snares. Do you think they are worth it or should I buy they seemingly "worse" kits from roland or yamaha for the same price
I just have A SINGLE 2112 amp that I just bought . I turn the td 30 full blast and the 2112 full blast and it is more than load enough for practice but I cant imagine in cutting through the mix with a band. What gives? Strangely enough I connect the bluetooth and its got about 25% more volume. I have to turn that down. All the kits are full volume on the Roland.
Is something else required besides the power cord to turn this thing on? Just got the 2108 and it will not power on. Voltage is set correctly to my outlets. No power light indicators, you think it’s dead on arrival? I have the brain of e kit running a 1/4” mono to mono input on back of speaker. No power.
I play edrums and guitar. Ideally, i would love to get 1 speaker that works with both. Will any 12 inch FRFR speaker be able to do this?
I can't figure out why I'm not hearing my Yamaha EAD 10 through my Simmons drum module any suggestions I tried switching the cables around. THANKS ?
Sup Jus
Been following for a while.
Would you buy a Roland TD-1DMKX or ALESIS strike drum module?? (Same price as new)
I have a super upgraded "Nitro" and module sound still sucks..:(
Thanks and appreciate you
Is this something I'd want if I'm only triggering my bass drum?
do these have any advantage over their similarly powered roland kc model keyboard amp?
Hey Justin thanks, as always, for the great videos. I got 1 DA2112 to try out and it does not seem very loud at all. I mean its loud enough at home when practicing but live (just a small party in my back yard)....I have to max it out to get anything and cover the tapping sound on my pads. It just seems weak to me...maybe I'm missing something. I thought, well I better get a second one and a sub woofer if I'm going to take this into clubs or events. I'm just worried I'll sink more into these and not get quite what I want. Is there a way these can be amplified more? Will a 2nd one with a sub woofer improve the volume/power? I don't need anything super powerful but it does need to hold up to at least my club gigs. Thoughts or suggestions would be very helpful in making my next move. Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
I recently purchased a DA2112 and am thinking the same thing to myself. I thought it would be a lot louder than it is. I’m wondering if I’m doing something wrong or it just is what it is. Did you end up purchasing a secondary amplifier and sub?? If so is it that much louder??
I’m still unsatisfied and won’t sink more into these. I’m keeping this for practice at my house but I’m in the market for a small PA system for gigs. Just asking around to see what the pros are using
@@codersexpo1580 thanks for the input and response
@@xCANCEROUSJAEx Please let me know what else you're looking at or hear about. I still haven't decided. If anyone else has had this experience and has suggestions I invite you to join in on the conversation.
@@codersexpo1580 I've still gotta do more research about this speaker because when my phone is hooked up to it via bluetooth it plays songs or audio incredibly loud. So loud that if i have the master volume on the 2112 all the way up I only need to have my phone at volume level 1 or 2 and its loud enough to enjoy ( anything higher than 2 is too loud). its weird to me that I don't seem to get that same level of audio running the Titan 70 through it. I wondering If i need to run a certain type of instrument cable through it to make it louder but idk that seems like you shouldn't have to do that. If i cant find any more info online im just going to contact Simmons and see what they recommend. I don't wanna give up on the speaker yet, especially after hearing songs played through it on my phone. We will see what happens.
Why Simmons monitor is not sold in Europe?..
Shame you won't be able to get them in the UK
You have never mentioned the nord drum? why is that?
Do you think the DA2112 is better sounding than the DA2012B?
I went with the DA2112 and like it. Like you said, it takes time to EQ everything or it sounds pretty lifeless out of the box. I also like that I can use it as a general PA speaker for music or other things.
What module you using? Quite a few modules have very good individual pad EQ now, I bought the Yamaha DTX-6 which has 4 band SWEEPABLE EQ per pad - this is where you can really get your sounds to shine. The end of chain speaker EQ is pretty broad and agricultural. Pad EQ will drop to lower price modules over time.
I bought the same set and love them, mine do double duty as well. I put them both on a box with an industrial lazy Susan, and that way I can just spin them round for playing and back the other way at my desk when they're used as stereo/computer speakers, it's perfect, very easy to point them where you want. I spin them right round right round right. Oh I am sorry for that last part.
Can you use these speakers for acoustic drums instead of e-drums?
Does these amps and speakers work with acoustic drums?
Everything is talking about electronic drums
It’s like no one is talking about how to amplify acoustic drums
90% of the people I hang around don’t play electric drums. We play acoustic drums. 8:28
So are these better then the Alesis 12
By far
@@tbublz why is that?
Hi there,anyone tried 2 of the 8inch ones together?enough bass?
Hi Justin, i'm quite confused with your sentence saying that if you have old drum module without bluetooth you can connect those simmons sprakers throuh built in bluetooth. If the drum module doesn't have bluetooth emiter how is it possible? 0:59
What I meant is Bluetooth for your phone, NOT the drums. Connect the drums with cables, and pair your phone to the speater via bluetooth. Otherwise you'll need an aux cable with a Lightning/USB-C adapter going into the Mix-In of your module.
@@65Drums so this be useful only to get the backing track directly from the simmons speakers instead of from the module? Not much of an advantage? Or you are thinking of sth elese?
Cheers
@@K3NH Yup. It's just for pairing with your phone. This is an advantage if your module doesn't have Bluetooth.
Hey bud - Great videos.
I have electric drums that I bought a couple of months ago (Roland TD 30 KV). Can you kindly recommend me any online drum school? Due to lockdown, I can't go out for f2f drum classes. I prefer to learn it online. I am absolute beginner. Google Search showed me DRUMEO, but not sure how is it? Appreciate your recommendations.. many thanks
You can get drumeo videos free online.
has anyone tried connecting a sound mixer on this and put some mics and guitars on it?
Just a thought of a video that may make 🤔 a lot of views. I just upgraded from a TD-3 that slowly evolved into a real set for adding easy drum tracks in video production of live music and dance 💃. Well, hoping to expand the inputs of the new TD-27 for the extra rototoms, cowbell-wood and extra three zone cymbals. I was about to make splitters to expand off the Tom's for the rototoms but thought about getting a Ddrum DDTI and going midi through the TD-27. Anyways, using audio from the TD-3 is not what works for MIDI into Abelton Studio. Is there a better option to expand the inputs through the TD-27? $170 for the DDTI. Thanks.
I have a TD-3 and it works fine in Ableton with midi.
@@matenorth Yes, I am using the TD-3 as the off the rim channels of the four Toms the fourth being auxiliary #1 of the TD-27. My complaint was I thought I did an exhaustive research before getting the TD-27 and somehow I got mixed up thinking it's inputs could be expanded with a second module. 😳 I was so sure I knew what I decided I was surprised that I was so lost in the point of only having twelve inputs. I have seemed to gain one to 13 by using the Hihat one from the TD-3 with the right midi note assigned. I assigned five inputs from the 3 to the 27. So, I have the snare, kick, hihat, 4 toms, 3 rototoms, three crashes and 2 three zone rides. Some trickery to make it work. Not, 100% but, with a foot switch I have it working.
@@xr680r I see. You can connect both of them to a midi interface and then to pc with usb. I have a Roland UM-2G for this to connect a TD-3 and a TD-4. The UM-2G has a special driver which works jitter-free with roland modules. Cant wait to buy a TD-17 as my main one and keep the td-4 as a slave because my rig is very 00''s.
@@matenorth What started this was a live video of a preformed music that the person did not keep tempo from beginning to end of the original track music so, the idea was to dub in a drum and bass track with the video. In the end, I went from a TD-3 to a TD-27. The project is still all buggy but I have a better module. I was using the TD-3 with USB into Abelton 10 Studio and the little I used it as a MIDI controller for drums, along with my Aturia Keylab to make some background tracks for videos but, it's all escalated into less latency and stuff, so the new module. I think it was a an excuse to get a better drum setup so I would have to become better at drumming? Heck, sometimes I wonder...... Anyways, I wanted all the inputs to be the same TD-27 sounds, latency not two modules playing VST's through Abelton. The idea was to play along with the prerecorded track that didn't keep time. It was recorded at the beach with five video cameras going and we are not going to redo the shoot. So I got this not so bright idea of fixing the sound to go with the video.
Hey man, got a question for you. I’ve been playing acoustic drums for about 20 years but I don’t know shit about electric drums. I want to buy one so I don’t cause my neighbors to conspire against me lol. If you had a budget of around 3k, maybe slightly more, what current electric kit would you buy? Thanks!
Alesis strike pro se from Sweetwater music they throw in a few freebees too. Kits just under $2700. Been jamming mine since Chistmas having a blast.love the Tom's, very deep. Snare's are snappy base drum responds like an acoustic beast. Read up on it the drumkits are awesome I find something new everytime I go in.
@@tbublz I’m about to buy the Strike Pro SE. Can you the drums like you would an acoustic kit? So basically, if a snare was too low pitched on a set, could a tune it higher? I can’t find any info on this online
@@oldmanhendo7183 heck yes bro, you can even do all sorts of customization on the Roland td-17 module and better
good guy simmons knows that if something is wrong with them Justin will tell it still they provided.
sound demo? official demo?
@65 Drums You mentioned it was "mid" in terms of quality, not pro... what is an example of "pro" ? Thanks
I used to work at the stage hand in the concert industry. So when I say “pro”, I’m talking about touring industry level brands like Meyer. Mid level brands are like JBL
@@65Drums Thanks. I have a hybrid set i want to play live, kereoke style: me along with tunes... so, I'm looking for something that will be loud enough, and deep enough to go along with the acoustic aspect of the kit... is a Mackie thump with a 15" woofer a bad direction? I'd prefer to spend 3-times that, if the upgrade was sick.
Yeah a Mackie thump or two would be fine for that.
I also think Bluetooth is overrated as a feature. I invested about 10€ in a Bluetooth transmitter and my td17 was upgraded.
You just don't know how to use it yet. It's a great tool.
Has anyone ever told you that you look just like Jason Segal?
Do you have an email because I need some help with my e drum kit
I have ZERO confidence in anything with the Simmons name on it lately. Have you EVER played a Simmons kit where all the triggers operated smoothly and as expected? So much hot spotting, intermittence or just plain old DYING after a few hours of use. Also, Simmons is now owned by the holding company (Ares Management) that owns now bankrupt Guitar Center, so I see that whole distribution/manufacturing channel going away sooner or later. I think Behringer makes the Simmonds drum aps.
Guitar Center is not bankrupt
@@garygnip4480 They emerged from Chapter 11 on December 23, 2021 after creditors including present owner, Ares Managemebt, wrote off >$800M in unsecured debt.
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Sorry
Make you MAD on the gig
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Roland kits don't sound great on them. I actually think the older Simmons amps are significantly better. Much louder and clearer.