Thank you. Very useful! I don't mind the "wobble" because that means I can do small adjustments when centered, as you do in the AAR. Great to know I might have an upgrade option once (if) this go down in price.
Thanks for good and honest review. To "wobble" (free movement, once you let the stick go) is of a concern to me. If TM can sort that out, I would not mind buying it.
On the flip side, if keeping your Warthog grip is important when upgrading, for marginally more you can grab a GF4 base + Warthog grip adapter from VKB for better everything, or an Orion 2 base for cheaper (you still get adjustable clutches so no wobble) + used Warthog adapter if you can find one (WW no longer sells it for some reason).
@@DJeb86 nope i think you`re getting your wires crossed, you`re referring to the old (shall we say Legacy) FFB which physical moves the stick opposite to where you position the stick to apply a pressure feedback this is the FFB it wont support, The New Monza FFB base is really what they use to call force sensing back in the early days , in which the stick stays rigid and you apply force to it , thus you still get a feel . BMS still support force sensing FFB sticks , in fact the BMS Flight model is designed for it in mind. hope that has cleared things up ..
. Cougar was such a fiasco that I will never ever again by anything from thrustmaster. Those people just don’t know how to engineer basic mechanical devices. Their electronical components were the worst in industry and their software suite was the worst ever. I don’t care if they made some improvements , I’m not a pigeon , thrustmaster banned for me
@@TrueBlade-1889 They are rotary dampers. They are meant to dampen the movement of the axis but they feel as if they are not even there. They do come installed. Thrustmaster mentioned they would be releasing more at some point, assumedly stronger ones. Even with this issue, I think the base is still fantastic, I love every bit of it.
That original Warthog base placed on a shelf as a memento of what we had to endure for a decade, and also cause it looks pretty kool.
Very nice, your making me want to buy a new HOTAS.
Like the stability of the stick.
Thanks for the info.
Thank you. Very useful! I don't mind the "wobble" because that means I can do small adjustments when centered, as you do in the AAR.
Great to know I might have an upgrade option once (if) this go down in price.
Wow good vid man i play star citizen and my warthog base just crapped out- might neet to get this
Problem is only a couple of old sticks work with it.
If they want to compete with Virpil etc., they need some new flashy sticks.
Thanks for good and honest review. To "wobble" (free movement, once you let the stick go) is of a concern to me. If TM can sort that out, I would not mind buying it.
On the flip side, if keeping your Warthog grip is important when upgrading, for marginally more you can grab a GF4 base + Warthog grip adapter from VKB for better everything, or an Orion 2 base for cheaper (you still get adjustable clutches so no wobble) + used Warthog adapter if you can find one (WW no longer sells it for some reason).
The reason is that they profit more from selling their replica of the same grio, than from the 60 dollar module to allow a competitor grip.
Would virpil sticks work with this base?
Have you thought about getting a force sensing base for the F-16?
I have thought but I personally don't think it is worth the money at this moment especially when I don't utilize a pit.
I got also, toghtger with the tqs , its the perfect experince! , ❤
Aren t you interested in ffb stick from moza or winwing ?
Interested yes. Willing to buy no. I do have an Orion with F-15E throttle grips on it for when I fly the F-15 in BMS.
@@AviationPlus i thought that bms has abandoned ffb.
@@DJeb86 nope i think you`re getting your wires crossed, you`re referring to the old (shall we say Legacy) FFB which physical moves the stick opposite to where you position the stick to apply a pressure feedback this is the FFB it wont support, The New Monza FFB base is really what they use to call force sensing back in the early days , in which the stick stays rigid and you apply force to it , thus you still get a feel . BMS still support force sensing FFB sticks , in fact the BMS Flight model is designed for it in mind. hope that has cleared things up ..
Hello
Excuse me, I would like to know if there is a driver to connect ava and hotas warthog?
I am sure there is. As you can see what I have and it just worked.
It seems good, just not as good as winwing, Vkb or virpil, especially for the price
It annihilates the VKB stuff.
. Cougar was such a fiasco that I will never ever again by anything from thrustmaster. Those people just don’t know how to engineer basic mechanical devices. Their electronical components were the worst in industry and their software suite was the worst ever. I don’t care if they made some improvements , I’m not a pigeon , thrustmaster banned for me
The lack of rotary dampers inside by default is embarassing from thrustmaster
@@MozTS They are there but not as strong as we would think.
they are included...
They are bringing out stronger ones
@serge933 what are rotary adaptors ? My AVA arrives today.
@@TrueBlade-1889 They are rotary dampers. They are meant to dampen the movement of the axis but they feel as if they are not even there. They do come installed. Thrustmaster mentioned they would be releasing more at some point, assumedly stronger ones. Even with this issue, I think the base is still fantastic, I love every bit of it.