The metro is necessary. It needs to be built. There is no public transit in Dublin. Build the metro build 12 more luas lines BUILD ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.
I think you really deeply don't understand what a subway involves. Dublin is too spread out, too low density, it is not economically viable to do this, it is literally a huge amount of money, that will have very limited impact on the experiences of commuters in the city, and the money will not be made back in any reasonable amount of time. For a city like Dublin, a luas line coming from the airport, with some portions under and over ground, makes the most sense. Then, as you pointed out, many more luas lines throughout the city are needed.
3:00 'A railway is not a solution for a low density sprawling city'. You don't wait until a city is dense before you build rail infrastructure. You build the rail and then densify the city, specifically surrounding railway stations (i.e. Transit Orientated Development). He has a very outdated outlook on urban planning. We need to be proactive, not reactive.
I think you really deeply don't understand what a subway involves. Dublin is too spread out, too low density, it is not economically viable to do this, it is literally a huge amount of money, that will have very limited impact on the experiences of commuters in the city, and the money will not be made back in any reasonable amount of time. For a city like Dublin, a luas line coming from the airport, with some portions under and over ground, makes the most sense. Many more luas lines, and road improvements throughout the city are needed.
I think you really deeply don't understand what a subway involves. Dublin is too spread out, too low density, it is not economically viable to do this, it is literally a huge amount of money, that will have very limited impact on the experiences of commuters in the city, and the money will not be made back in any reasonable amount of time. For a city like Dublin, a luas line coming from the airport, with some portions under and over ground, makes the most sense. Many more luas lines, and road improvements throughout the city are needed.
This is ridiculous, we have a bunch of people in their 60s so worried about keeping Dublin the way it was 100 years ago that we are actually stuck 100 years behind and the rest of the world is laughing at us, London metro opened in 1863 and we cannot put down a single station in 2024, insane mindset from these people.
I think you really deeply don't understand what a subway involves. Dublin is too spread out, too low density, it is not economically viable to do this, it is literally a huge amount of money, that will have very limited impact on the experiences of commuters in the city, and the money will not be made back in any reasonable amount of time. For a city like Dublin, a luas line coming from the airport, with some portions under and over ground, makes the most sense. Many more luas lines, and road improvements throughout the city are needed. You seem ignorant and reckless.
@@FiremanSimon A hundred years ago... when the density of the city center was completely different, when most people walked or took the tram to work, and with labor and materials cheap. There was also a comprehensive tram system all over the city then too, and we tore that up and replaced them with buses because "they were cheaper".
@@daliaa5294 All the budget in one route doesn't solve the problem for everyone going to work each morning. There are options to transform the congestion situation which aren't getting attention
Its about 10km from St. Stephens Green to Dublin Airport. Get in a Chinese company and they'll build it for a fraction of the price of what BAM type company could do it for
The rhetoric of ‘this part of Dublin has history’, please stop.. everywhere has some sort of history but it can’t be the reason to hinder progress at every stage.
It's putting the pile of money into one small route when millions of people will have to continue travelling hours in congestion. Did you listen to the interview?
@youtubluarTV that “one small route” services out national airport, did you listen to the interview? How do you think we can’t have a railway going to our airport!
@@Beartrap208 It doesn't solve the major congestion and public transport issues millions face each day. The budget is limited. If it was easier to achieve and not neglecting the bigger issues, of course I'd have a railway. There are lots of ideas out there.
@@youtubularTV But this route has been studied and it's the best option serve Swords, the Airport and North Dublin City. There are many Luas Lines and other improvements outside of Dublin planned but this has been prioritised for a reason.
For a City of over a Million people in one of the wealthiest countries in the World, the fact that we don't have a single Metro line is pathetic and embarrassing. Remember when a Spanish company said they'd build the Metro for a fraction of the price similar to the relatively cheap Madrid Metro and our Useless Gov. said no. At todays prices a singles tunnel two track line between St.Stephens Green and the Airport would probably cost 20 Billion and take 20 years. Total joke shop.
The photocopyer, the bike shed and the hospital among lots lots more. You honestly think they're going to make a link and not take a money in their own pockets. This happens all the time money goes "missing" or "lost" too maany times to the the point it is back handers and brown envelopes for a fact.
What was the Spanish option priced at? Wider congestion problems are not being discussed enough. There are solutions that'd solve transport for way more people at a lower cost.
No, I think, if you have an issue with environmentalism, you may not be very smart to begin with. If you aren't very smart to begin with, you aren't going to understand the complexities of a project like this. Duncan seems roundly correct.
Dublin and Dail Eireann should have their membership of the Republic suspended...and/or a right to accession referendum which will give counties and provinces the right to acede from the Republic if these plutocrats continue bankrupting us...how many 5 euro tickets are going to be purchased to cover the costs of such a tunnel ? You would need 500 million tourists paying 5 euro per visit for twenty years to pay for something like that ..and that's just to keep the interest respectable.... Ireland got 9 million tourists in 2019 when we last had a tourism industry...less than a million visit Dublin and most on excursions...the Dublin workforce would just about cover its running costs but not in a hundred years could they pay for it...
Dont agree with this analysis - all infrastructure is costly - and dublin is one of the few european capitals which dont have a mass transit system crisis crossing the city.
It does have a mass transit system... And the infrastructure built has to be economically viable, it needs to pay for itself over time. I think you really deeply don't understand what a subway involves. Dublin is too spread out, too low density, it is not economically viable to do this, it is literally a huge amount of money, that will have very limited impact on the experiences of commuters in the city, and the money will not be made back in any reasonable amount of time. For a city like Dublin, a luas line coming from the airport, with some portions under and over ground, makes the most sense. Many more luas lines, and road improvements throughout the city are needed.
Nothing ever gets done in the country ,always put on the back burner etc , to many moaning minnies , anything thats knocked down or cut down can be rebuilt or replanted
Look back at all major projects the state has built. These environmentalists have caused more problems than solved. We need the metro. This is needed, so badly. I come from the inner city. I’ve seen it be transformed from what it was. Now it’s time to transform it again to fit the needs of its much larger population. We have a sprawling city that needs to be connected to allow people to move around, fast. That’s how you improve the economics and social mobility of an urban area. Otherwise we lose touch with parts of our own city. Think of it this way. If a metro comes in, and with that over the decades it’s built on along with the tram system.. a business can then open in parts of the city that are cheaper to rent a commercial property. People can get there faster, and more small businesses can open up. This helps communities build themselves up. It really impacts peoples lives in ways that can’t happen if our city grows without being connected.
People continue to vote Greens.... Environmental parties in Europe have almost no Governmental representation but here.... people rather save a couple trees and have no Metro, no relevant infrastructures... worst european city on traffic congestion and public transport network!
Honestly I think we really should have a train that runs from the bottom most point of the country to the top most point of the country countless other European union countries have this why doesn't Ireland?
If you gonna counter argue with everything he said, you will never have anything new done in the country. There will always gonna be some issue on the outset for a short period of time. It's the long run benefit we should aim for. This man has conflicted himself with his own opinions for having one of the worst transportation system in the world but then he's against building the a metro system. What solution did he offer really to make it better?
Newstalk, could you please invite better guests. This guy kept contradicting himself, dodging the interviewer's questions, and couldn’t even argue his basic points. Giving airtime to these guys isn’t helping
Where's all the tax from companies going?? Just build the damn metro!! You can't make an Omelette without breaking a few eggs. The benefits outweigh the issues.
brilliant showcase of stupidity among all these idealists; argue for more public transport while also arguing against suggested solutions all the while offering no solutions of their own only aspirational BS. I’m sick of it. Either bring solutions to the table or sod off with your mindless whinging.
we do need a public transport network. why not build 5 more luas lines, 1 of which could serve the airport / swords. remove cars and for the same price or less than the metro.
They are really needed. Bikes are the solution to Dublin's transit problem. All cars banned from city centre and bike lanes and bike sheds everywhere. Without robbing the money would be ideal.
@@TheBrainDunne from O'Connell bridge to the airport is 9km. 33 minutes ride according to Google maps. Where is the problem? It's not like you're cycling to Galway. Yes. Ban the cars in the city centre. They are saying they should build that poxy metro because 'every city in Europe has one'. Every city in Europe pedestrianize their city centre. Cars out.
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The metro is necessary. It needs to be built. There is no public transit in Dublin. Build the metro build 12 more luas lines BUILD ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.
Bike shed and hospital trend will happen
I think you really deeply don't understand what a subway involves. Dublin is too spread out, too low density, it is not economically viable to do this, it is literally a huge amount of money, that will have very limited impact on the experiences of commuters in the city, and the money will not be made back in any reasonable amount of time.
For a city like Dublin, a luas line coming from the airport, with some portions under and over ground, makes the most sense.
Then, as you pointed out, many more luas lines throughout the city are needed.
The point is that the money can be used to solve broader public transport problems rather than one small route
The airlines should pay for basic infrastructure. Ludicrous.
Mt Ryan you know this is true.
Well, they do indirectly via taxes.
I think Duncan hasn't explained it very well.
The taxpayer would be paying for one small route that they won't benefit from as congestion continues across and outside Dublin
3:00 'A railway is not a solution for a low density sprawling city'. You don't wait until a city is dense before you build rail infrastructure. You build the rail and then densify the city, specifically surrounding railway stations (i.e. Transit Orientated Development). He has a very outdated outlook on urban planning. We need to be proactive, not reactive.
McDowell was right , somebody is always against something .
I think you really deeply don't understand what a subway involves. Dublin is too spread out, too low density, it is not economically viable to do this, it is literally a huge amount of money, that will have very limited impact on the experiences of commuters in the city, and the money will not be made back in any reasonable amount of time.
For a city like Dublin, a luas line coming from the airport, with some portions under and over ground, makes the most sense.
Many more luas lines, and road improvements throughout the city are needed.
His argument makes no sense
I think you really deeply don't understand what a subway involves. Dublin is too spread out, too low density, it is not economically viable to do this, it is literally a huge amount of money, that will have very limited impact on the experiences of commuters in the city, and the money will not be made back in any reasonable amount of time.
For a city like Dublin, a luas line coming from the airport, with some portions under and over ground, makes the most sense.
Many more luas lines, and road improvements throughout the city are needed.
Millions of people travelling through congestion everyday won't benefit from all the budget put into one small route
This is ridiculous, we have a bunch of people in their 60s so worried about keeping Dublin the way it was 100 years ago that we are actually stuck 100 years behind and the rest of the world is laughing at us, London metro opened in 1863 and we cannot put down a single station in 2024, insane mindset from these people.
I think you really deeply don't understand what a subway involves. Dublin is too spread out, too low density, it is not economically viable to do this, it is literally a huge amount of money, that will have very limited impact on the experiences of commuters in the city, and the money will not be made back in any reasonable amount of time.
For a city like Dublin, a luas line coming from the airport, with some portions under and over ground, makes the most sense.
Many more luas lines, and road improvements throughout the city are needed.
You seem ignorant and reckless.
@@p1s1j do you really there is already the makings of a underground under Dame street leading to o Connell st that was started by the British ???
@@FiremanSimon A hundred years ago... when the density of the city center was completely different, when most people walked or took the tram to work, and with labor and materials cheap. There was also a comprehensive tram system all over the city then too, and we tore that up and replaced them with buses because "they were cheaper".
@@p1s1jHungary Budapest is a relatively poorer country than Ireland and have a low population but they have a metro
@@daliaa5294 All the budget in one route doesn't solve the problem for everyone going to work each morning. There are options to transform the congestion situation which aren't getting attention
Transport is a joke in this country. However bad people believe they have it in Dublin, it’s nothing compared to transport outside of Dublin.
The commute for everyone could be solved with a lot less money than this thing, if the public are presented with an option that makes more sense
Its about 10km from St. Stephens Green to Dublin Airport. Get in a Chinese company and they'll build it for a fraction of the price of what BAM type company could do it for
No no, how those officials will benefit if we make government efficient?
It always ends up far more expensive. Once we're locked in, someone has to finish the job
The rhetoric of ‘this part of Dublin has history’, please stop.. everywhere has some sort of history but it can’t be the reason to hinder progress at every stage.
@@FiremanSimon The more significant point is that there are options to transform public transport and all the money would be put into one small route
@@youtubularTV What options? It doesn't have to be an either or.
That made no sense whatsoever
That guy literally argued for public transportation and then argued against it, he is exactly why nothing ever gets done
It's putting the pile of money into one small route when millions of people will have to continue travelling hours in congestion. Did you listen to the interview?
@youtubluarTV that “one small route” services out national airport, did you listen to the interview? How do you think we can’t have a railway going to our airport!
@@Beartrap208 It doesn't solve the major congestion and public transport issues millions face each day. The budget is limited. If it was easier to achieve and not neglecting the bigger issues, of course I'd have a railway. There are lots of ideas out there.
@@youtubularTV But this route has been studied and it's the best option serve Swords, the Airport and North Dublin City. There are many Luas Lines and other improvements outside of Dublin planned but this has been prioritised for a reason.
For a City of over a Million people in one of the wealthiest countries in the World, the fact that we don't have a single Metro line is pathetic and embarrassing. Remember when a Spanish company said they'd build the Metro for a fraction of the price similar to the relatively cheap Madrid Metro and our Useless Gov. said no. At todays prices a singles tunnel two track line between St.Stephens Green and the Airport would probably cost 20 Billion and take 20 years. Total joke shop.
The photocopyer, the bike shed and the hospital among lots lots more. You honestly think they're going to make a link and not take a money in their own pockets. This happens all the time money goes "missing" or "lost" too maany times to the the point it is back handers and brown envelopes for a fact.
What was the Spanish option priced at?
Wider congestion problems are not being discussed enough. There are solutions that'd solve transport for way more people at a lower cost.
An environmentalist making no sense. Who woulda thought it?
No, I think, if you have an issue with environmentalism, you may not be very smart to begin with.
If you aren't very smart to begin with, you aren't going to understand the complexities of a project like this.
Duncan seems roundly correct.
@p1s1j thanks for your contribution oh wise one...
DAA dont wont metro.making to much money on parking
BUILD IT JUST DO IT.
Dublin and Dail Eireann should have their membership of the Republic suspended...and/or a right to accession referendum which will give counties and provinces the right to acede from the Republic if these plutocrats continue bankrupting us...how many 5 euro tickets are going to be purchased to cover the costs of such a tunnel ? You would need 500 million tourists paying 5 euro per visit for twenty years to pay for something like that ..and that's just to keep the interest respectable.... Ireland got 9 million tourists in 2019 when we last had a tourism industry...less than a million visit Dublin and most on excursions...the Dublin workforce would just about cover its running costs but not in a hundred years could they pay for it...
Aye, wider transport issues would be cheaper to solve and need to be discussed more
Lol😂 let's get the taxi drivers to pay for the roads
Why are they acting as if the metrolink was the idea of the airlines?
Dont agree with this analysis - all infrastructure is costly - and dublin is one of the few european capitals which dont have a mass transit system crisis crossing the city.
It does have a mass transit system...
And the infrastructure built has to be economically viable, it needs to pay for itself over time.
I think you really deeply don't understand what a subway involves. Dublin is too spread out, too low density, it is not economically viable to do this, it is literally a huge amount of money, that will have very limited impact on the experiences of commuters in the city, and the money will not be made back in any reasonable amount of time.
For a city like Dublin, a luas line coming from the airport, with some portions under and over ground, makes the most sense.
Many more luas lines, and road improvements throughout the city are needed.
Point is the money isn't being spent on wider transport issues. The focus is all on a narrow corridor when everyone else is suffering on
Nothing ever gets done in the country ,always put on the back burner etc , to many moaning minnies , anything thats knocked down or cut down can be rebuilt or replanted
I turned 37 years old a few days ago. I don't expect to see anything up and running double that age. I'll be shocked.
there's too many cowboys in this country which is why costs ALWAYS end up massively overspent on... and most of the cowboys are the politicians
And the airliners will just keep increasing their fares for the ordinary person who is actually the taxpayer's in private sector 😂😂😂
Look back at all major projects the state has built. These environmentalists have caused more problems than solved. We need the metro. This is needed, so badly. I come from the inner city. I’ve seen it be transformed from what it was. Now it’s time to transform it again to fit the needs of its much larger population. We have a sprawling city that needs to be connected to allow people to move around, fast. That’s how you improve the economics and social mobility of an urban area. Otherwise we lose touch with parts of our own city. Think of it this way. If a metro comes in, and with that over the decades it’s built on along with the tram system.. a business can then open in parts of the city that are cheaper to rent a commercial property. People can get there faster, and more small businesses can open up. This helps communities build themselves up. It really impacts peoples lives in ways that can’t happen if our city grows without being connected.
People continue to vote Greens.... Environmental parties in Europe have almost no Governmental representation but here.... people rather save a couple trees and have no Metro, no relevant infrastructures... worst european city on traffic congestion and public transport network!
@@theaemulator With AI its value or benefits may not longer be valid.
@@blueocean2510 ... meaning we should all be happy to live in a city with a critical lack of infrastructures then? 🤦
@@blueocean2510that’s an abstract statement ? How specifically might it not have benefit ?
Just expand the luas
Honestly I think we really should have a train that runs from the bottom most point of the country to the top most point of the country countless other European union countries have this why doesn't Ireland?
Wow learned a lot there… NOT
I learnt that a lot of people's time could be saved if the money was spent on broader transport issues rather than one small route
👀 That metro just wont be done aand if it was... Money will be "Lost" how it always will be.
We are already a laughing stock internationally
No train or metro when you arrive at Dublin airport
If you gonna counter argue with everything he said, you will never have anything new done in the country. There will always gonna be some issue on the outset for a short period of time. It's the long run benefit we should aim for.
This man has conflicted himself with his own opinions for having one of the worst transportation system in the world but then he's against building the a metro system. What solution did he offer really to make it better?
They need to move more jobs out of Dublin and increase remote working jobs.
The population of Swords won't like the suggestion the Metrolink's only purpose is to serve the Airport.
What a load of populist waffle
Newstalk, could you please invite better guests. This guy kept contradicting himself, dodging the interviewer's questions, and couldn’t even argue his basic points. Giving airtime to these guys isn’t helping
Just do a horse lane as per de bikes ones yaysus is it so coumplicated
Surely a link to malahide dart station would be the quickest and cheapest option for the airport or is that just too easy 😮
Where's all the tax from companies going?? Just build the damn metro!! You can't make an Omelette without breaking a few eggs. The benefits outweigh the issues.
The airlines paying for it ?...Dumbest suggestion ever...
The commuters won't benefit from this. The money could solve other transport issues if the ideas are discussed enough
brilliant showcase of stupidity among all these idealists; argue for more public transport while also arguing against suggested solutions all the while offering no solutions of their own only aspirational BS. I’m sick of it. Either bring solutions to the table or sod off with your mindless whinging.
Who is this guy? Does he live in this city and this century?
we do need a public transport network. why not build 5 more luas lines, 1 of which could serve the airport / swords. remove cars and for the same price or less than the metro.
Dublin vanity project
Look d OPW are getting involved it will cost billions and billions and nobody will know whsts going on 😂😂
Build another bike shed instead
lol hahaha yep Dublin city bike cycling to the airport
They are really needed. Bikes are the solution to Dublin's transit problem. All cars banned from city centre and bike lanes and bike sheds everywhere. Without robbing the money would be ideal.
@@thiago9359 really? Bike 🚲 to the airport ? You cannot be serious.
@@thiago9359 don't ban cars just make public transport the better option.
@@TheBrainDunne from O'Connell bridge to the airport is 9km. 33 minutes ride according to Google maps. Where is the problem? It's not like you're cycling to Galway.
Yes. Ban the cars in the city centre. They are saying they should build that poxy metro because 'every city in Europe has one'. Every city in Europe pedestrianize their city centre. Cars out.
it should be the Dubs that pay for it... no one else in the country will use or benefit from it
Architect and environmentalist 😂😂😂😂
We are already a laughing stock internationally
No train or metro when you arrive at Dublin airport