Why Older Grapplers Should Play Seated Guard.
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2022
- The BJJ for Old F***s instructional with Rob Biernacki and Stephan Kesting is available at www.grapplearts.com/bjj-for-o.... This 7.5 hour instructional available in DVD, online streaming, and app formats and has has 6 main sections, including
1, BJJ Concepts for Older Grapplers
2, How to Use the Seated Guard Against Standing Opponents
3, How to Use the Seated Guard Against Kneeling Opponents
4, How to Use the Recumbent Guard Against Kneeling Opponents
5, How to Use the Recumbent Guard Against Standing Opponents (If You Really Have To), and
6, How to Use the Closed Guard Against Younger, More Athletic Opponents
I think grapplers age 40 and above will get TREMENDOUS value from the this instructional. Take me up on my unconditional 365 day guarantee if you get it and don’t agree!
Stephan Kesting 
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More info about 'BJJ for Old F***s with Rob Biernacki and Stephan Kesting' here: www.grapplearts.com/bjj-for-old-fs/
Oss
Just ordered the guard and passing series! Really, really, happy with them so far. I have been concerned about reducing injury risk for some time (and I'm becoming an old F***), and these instructionals are really helping take that goal to the next level.
I'm 36, just started up again after having to take nearly a 10 year break from jiu jitsu, I've been finding the seated guard is not only a lot easier for me to use against younger, fitter players, it seems to really flummox them when I take a cross collar grip and sit back, breaking their posture. Nice to see high level guys who know what they're talking about endorse the same approach, I thought I was just being lazy. 🤣
Thats awesome! Nice to hear. Im back at it myself. Going training again after a year
Thank you both, Professors!
54 year old blue belt here, 150 lbs.
Looking forward to the release of your instructional in May.
I really appreciate the sound, structural approach to BJJ that you both advocate.
43 years old and just tried my first competition and was surprised at the ferocity. Definitely need some old man tactics.
Love it, I'm a 48 year old blue belt and seated guard has helped me frustrate my standing opponents. Helps me to get 2 on 1 grips and get arm drags. Keep giving stuff for us old f****s!
Im 38 and im just coming back after 9 years off , your lucky because im a purple belt lol , but anyway how do you feel ? Can you hang with the young bucks ?
@@tomb9420 I kind of can hang just because I am stronger than everyone in class (former powerlifter), but then again using strength is not really jiu jitsu. As far as how I feel, it's painful bro, especially after class. How about you?
@@weslawless2386 im just been drilling slowly going back , I roll with my wife who is a brown belt. Just trying not to get injured but I dont really care so much about being a Billy the bad ass anymore if you know what I mean!
@@tomb9420 if we would all roll lighter, we would learn better and avoid injuries more. Less is more sometimes
I was all in until I saw that Hulk-Hogan mustache... Stephan, you're running wild, brother!
49 year old black belt. I grew up wrestling and I love take downs. Most of the time guys I rolls with don’t know the stand up game. Maybe I’ll do the sit down stuff when I’m old :)
Funny I was just trying to explain this to a white belt today. Also the natural tendency to end up with old guys in open guard and younger guy trying to pass from feet!
What a great video. Love the idea and will implement it. Just turned 40 and this will help a lot!
I'm only 25 but I alredy feel to old for this. I do a lot of intense phisical activity and running around on a daily basis, and by the late afternoon my muscles feel stiff an tired. This video helped me understand why i prefer the sitting guard.
Also for tactical reason. 95% of the class is about laying on your back. So I have much better chance winning with learning something different, than playing catch up with people who started 4+ years before me.
My observation is that people in my gym less familier with passing the butterfly guard and the dlr guard and they can more easily catched with a sweep. While my often more competent and technical closed guard and (foot on hip) open guard attacks are seen from a mile away and deflected at the moment I think about it.
So focusing on a game they are also less familiar with seems more like fairplay. When my more experienced and much bigger opponent just jumped on me while being double hooked to get rolled over and mounted I felt like I found a cheat code.
So it is very addictive to develop skills in a less popular system.
You are super very young to complain about body pains :)
This was exactly what I needed. I'm a blue belt, and my guard game has developed to where I at least have a plan against every kind of passing strategy, with one notable exception: athletic, aggressive, standing passers in the Gi. What you have provided is a basic game plan against this kind of passer. I intend to try it out tonight and tomorrow!
Thanks!
Just take my money Stephen.
True in grappling comps. But once striking is involved, not the better position.
Really interesting 🧐
I think old guys would benefit from a 2-pronged strategy - surviving against fairly equal rated training partners (think: similar weight and belt rank), which seated guard might do; and gaining a superior position against one rating below (think: against a smaller training partner or one belt rank or more below). I don't know if seated guard is the solution for more of a level playing field; of course Marcello Garcia famously made it work, but on a level playing field there might be a lot more variety of games to play.
I think old age takes away a belt rank, even if you come from an academy that made you work hard for your rank. Hence merely holding your own against a younger training partner of equal weight is a challenge. Older people have less strength, less endurance, and our joints take a beating and aren't afraid to let us know (even younger players routinely take Motrin and Tylenol). Fortunately BJJ is a lot of fun and, yes, skills and savvy (the "chess" aspect) at least give the age-disadvantaged a shot. I didn't have to quit until I needed (unbeknownst to me at the time) hip replacement surgery but I should have quit earlier - it's not really a 50 or 60 year old's game. I think about going back but the wear and tear is ferocious, even if the cameraderie and fun are off the charts.
Thank you from a 56 year old white belt
Thank you very much and good luck with your training
good!
Old fox bjj, riiiight 😊🦊
this video has given me hope. My fat ass can maybe do these.
I saw part 2 of your hip surgery. Watching this video, It doesn't seem to affect you in anyway. How much are you squating now? I'm getting a 2nd opinion on getting a hip replacement and would like to get back into mma and weight training. At 62 I was doing a 405 lb squat. Do you think I would be able to do that after a surgery? I feel fine and am trying to ease back into training after covid but sometimes my left hip acts up due to a torn labrum. I'm 66 now and in very excellent shape except for my hip. This video of you is vey inspiring and has given me hope.
God bless you.
Within 5 months of the surgery I was hex bar deadlifting 45 and 4 months after that I squatted 315. Not quite as much as you but still a decent amount. The strength comes back pretty quickly so long as you don’t allow your hip to atrophy too much before the surgery. Just about everybody I talked to said they wish they had had the surgery earlier, so I had it before I was completely crippled and as a result of recovery was pretty quick
Thank you! I've been watching your videos and was inspired and encouraged by how graceful you move both before and after your hip replacement. Your videos have been giving me hopes that I could get back into my workouts. Your confirming response has now given me confidence and I'm now without worries about a possible hip replacement interfering with my training.
Thanks again and all the best to you in all that you do!
Eddie
Hello Stef
Who is this for? Oh me... subbed
I think its easier to get grips when you are on your back and he is attacking from a standing position. And ultimately that is what you want....
How? If you're on your back and they just grab your gi pants at the ankles, your arms won't reach their sleeves, unless you sit up.
Nice - im fifty and im lovin it
46 year old 3 stripe brown belt here. I have had shoulder surgery and a full hip replacement. Ya.. my stand up days are behind me. The only problem is some of these young guys bounce around like spiderman ! If I drop straight to seated man I am asking for trouble..
As an unathletic skinny dude, I found this video because I tried supline position guard a few times against standing people... it didn't end well. I like DLR guard, but I would start by getting grips from seated guard and then move into supline guard like DLR. But just plopping on my back from the start has not worked out well.
how's your hip? I just got mine done one week ago.
It's doing great thank you. You'll improve rapidly from this point forward! The key is walking, lots of walking!
whats with the 70s moustache? sorry so distracting haha
...will there be content in the instructional for us big bellied folk?
Many of the same constraints apply: reduced leg flexibility (especially the abiity to get your knees into your ampits), reduced endurance, and reduced scrambling ability. So yes, I think it will be very cross-applicable thanks!
@@StephanKesting Thank you! This comment wasn't in jest, I just heard Rob mention it, and as a big-belly-haver, just wanted to ask. I love your instructionals (believe it or not, my first instructional I ever bought was your kneebar DVDs), and will eagerly await the drop of this one!
Oss
What Gi is he wearing, so cool looking. I love the navy w/gold stitching.
Also, if they stand, you stand. Why would you ever remain seated with no points of contact against a standing opponent? At the very least, stand up, attach, and then pull guard.
Old fart here; because my back hurts all the time and being taken down hard would provide immense pain. Staying down puts me at a disadvantage but I’m still in the game.
Just throw the butterfly hooks and dominate the back of the neck you can try to sweep or raise the opponent into single X. You just need to be offensive. Speaking of no gi to make it clear
The secret is to watch a lot of Marcelo Garcia's video before training lol
What’s up with the mustache bro
👴🙌
Rolling from one side of my fat ass to the other side ...... I knew those chocolate bars cushioning my but were contributing to something useful
Seated \open guard should be banned from the martial point of view it makes absolutely no sense. Martial arts end up creating unnecesary complexities over non sense positions. Why would you try to go or pass the guard of a seated opponent that is in front of you if you are standing in fromt of him? Just watch this video and cpunt how many times their head could be kicked or stomped....ohh its an sport right. Btw im a purple belt with more than 7 years of practice but we have tomstart adressing these things or the martial art of bjj will be lost.
Gi is too unrealistic for the real world. Nobody gives you that ridiculous grip in the outside world. Save the Gi for ceremonial occasions where it is most useful.
"real world"? Unless you live on a beach, people are wearing clothes - with sleeves, legs and collars - plenty of grips to be had.
In the the real world, flopping about on the ground can lead to you getting your head kicked in by the other guy's mates. BJJ's applicability for street fighting is limited anyway. It's perfect for 1-on-1 ego challenge fights but that isn't the real world. The real world is getting attacked without warning by a psycho and his 3 mates. You'd be better of doing boxing if you really can't get through life without getting into so many fights that you have to train for them 3x a week.
For most people BJJ, gi or no gi, is a sport. It's gets very boring just training supposedly street-ready BJJ. 90% of BJJ isn't relevant for fights - it's there to defeat other BJJ players who know how to counter your moves. Normal people don't know any that and basic blue-belt level takedown->pass->mount->punch their face is all you need.
@@RaveyDavey Good luck grabbing on to jeans and T shirt!!!!
@@RaveyDavey Good luck doing Uchimata on a guy with T-shirt and jeans Or good luck anchoring your body using someone’s jeans on the ground. Gi is CEREMONIAL period