Kawaii Culture is not an effort by Japan to erase its history. It was born out of a desire to demilitarize and pacify the culture. It is okay to still like anime. Big thanks to Suibhne for working with me on this video, check out his series on China here: ruclips.net/video/YP1qjTzxQNE/видео.html
Dude, you've got to make a video that has Jordan Peterson's name in the title with some kind of other word that shows that you are countering a claim he's made. I get you mentioned him before, but you need to have his name in the title. You are so hidden and it will get a shitload of attention with more subscribers. It has worked for others and your videos are high quality.
Knowing Better Once when I played a strategy game with my friend, I had almost won and made a joke saying "I will round up all your citizans and force them to rape dogs for my amusement". THIS WAS THE REAL GOD DAMN VERSION OF THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't feel the Vox video you cited really supports your claim about Kawaii culture here. You're still framing it as if it was a conscious effort on the part of Japan to manipulate it's populace, which is a pretty extraordinary claim. From what I've heard Sanrio became popular because it awarded young adult office workers a small escape from the stress and conformity of corporate culture.
Wow, look, I get what you're trying to do, but your history -- not to mention your pronunciation -- is completely off for the lead up parts. Please learn how to pronounce Nanjing and Suzhou (a lovely city I call home). Your history of China guy also can't pronounce anything right -- given that he also get the historical record mostly wrong, that's not surprising. The whole big brother/little brother thinking was absolutely gone by the 1890s. It ended after Cixi rejected reform. Japan wanted to for an Asian alliance against European colonialism and to get Asian nations to reform and advance. Cixi rejected this leading to the First Sino-Japanese War, the ending of the Self-Strengthening Movement, and finally cumulating in the Boxer Rebellion. During which Japan, along with Western countries invaded China put down the rebellion and turn China into a subject nation. Then you talk about Versailles but don't mention that China was also an ally and how they got screwed and how this lead to the May 4th Movement and made Japan's colonization of China when into top gear. I had to stop watching the video. I hope you got to the point where, though Japan committed atrocities as bad or worse than Germany, the US decided to look the other way because they needed Japan to be a bulwark against communism. So they turned a blind eye to Japanese war crimes and helped pump up the economy. So much so a war criminal even became Prime Minister of Japan. Look you have good intentions, but please do more research than the basic we all learn in high school.
@@tnbx4735 hey Doraemon Why can't you Japanese deny or try to refute with your Japanese other real historical evidences or facts for all my real historical evidences and facts in front of many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section? Or do you Japanese have any serious problems for not being able to deny or refute for my all real historical evidences or facts in front of many intelligent and sane viewers ? I can deny or try to disprove for all your Japanese baseless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in front of all viewers of many nations on this comment section. Why can't you Japanese do so? 😎😎🎉
"Next time we'll do it without the Italians" isn't that uncommon of a phrase for a modern day German to hear when he happens to visit Japan and have a few drinks with a Japanese person.
My grand mother is a rape victim during ww2 in the Philippines. When she's still alive she told us the atrocity done by the japanese army in our town. . Her parents and siblings got killed by japanese soldiers, many girls raped and houses burned down. In the 90s my grand mother fought with other victims to get an apology and compensation from Japanese government. The japanese government that time denied the rape allegation and claims it is only a propaganda against them. My grandma died of old age without getting an apology. I believe an apology is not enough for what the japanese government did that time...
It's so bizarre how obsessed Japan was with honor at the time yet they pulled extremely dishonorable stuff. And when a guy offs himself over WORDS, but not RAPE and MURDER... it's just messed up beyond belief.
Bushido code also says sneak attack your enemy, disguise yourself as an enemy soldier to sneak in, steal and loot. Their form of honor is different than ours.
I grew up in the Japanese education system and this a real problem. We have gatherings for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki but there is never any mention of all the people who were killed by the Japanese’s. When Obama came to Hiroshima everyone was saying that this is the first formal apology from the U.S. and that it was long over due.But still no mention of the fact Japan has never apologized there war crimes.And yet we are still teaching school children that Japan suffered the most. It is very disgraceful on Japans behalf.
Bondy Rabit Are you a Fake Japanese like Korean/Han --Japanese ? Why don't you have a courage to reply for my question and doubt to you a Fake Japanese ?
Well to be fair there were some, although very few in number, of Nazis that were disgusted by the holocaust and did make attempts to save Jewish lives. The Nazis were after all the political party of a totalitarian state where virtually any sort of power is gained through membership of the Nazi party.
It was one good man. Not the Nazi's. And from his own accounts it sounds like he was in denial about what they were doing back in Europe. And he wasn't only forbidden to talk about Nanking when he got back to Europe. He was arrested and treated as a traitor.
honor for them is absolute loyalty, its not like chivalrous honor portrayed in western culture, also its more on not failing on duty and keeping tradition(dont point it out to all the jp people, its mostly because of the imperials and nationalists that still denies the sins of the past and their ancestor's involvement and even now continue to brainwash new jp generation, dont generalize and not every jp is involved or even responsible)
Well, to be precise, the military’s wrongdoing during WW2 wasn’t directly encouraged by Japanese government. The military went way off of the government’s control; some soldiers even assassinated Japanese Prime Ministers because of them opposing military activities(5.15 and 3.18 incidents , for example) I’m not defending Japan. They definitely need to make an apology for Rape of Nanking. However, I disagree with those who paralleling this problem with Holocaust because these two war crimes differ from each other in presence of nations’ intention.
everyone throwing around the word 'honor'. i think, to them, honor means protecting one's country at any means whatever the cost. when they're right, they protect their country. when they're wrong, they protect their country. #honor
Japan did apologize and offered to pay money to support the families that were infected to the South Korean Government. But the government never paid to the families and blamed it to the Japanese Government. Also going back to apologizing, Japanese Government apologized many times to South Korean states and some places refuses to accept the apology. Japanese honour is more of traditional beliefs of their ancestors, for example if there is a 5th gen knife blacksmith, he needs to live up for his family name for making knives. I think that bringing up Japanese honour is a wrong for this situation.
As a Japanese citizen, it's embarrassing how little I knew on this topic until now. Thank you so much for this. It's so important for Japanese teenagers like me to be properly informed on the atrocities committed by my own country.
You are the first Japanese person I have seen in this comment acknowledging it . Some times I also think of my country's atrocities just knowing it is step towards bettering yourself
I'm not ashamed to admit this, Cyka... I've known about this for sometime. It's this brutality where my respect for Japan was initially born. It wasn't anime. It was their ability to demonstrate utter wanton cruelty. To be perfectly honest, it's something I still strongly respect about your culture. ... Coulda toned down on the rape though. heh.
Here in the USofA we're not taught of our war crimes either. We blew up 2 dams in N. Korea, even tho idk how many Nazi leaders were on trial for performing this very action in Belgium during WW2. Writing history seems to be a very selective process
You must be a very wise man, however I would like to ask you if you've seen someone by the name of Adolf Hitler, he was said to have escaped to Argentina
I taught English in Japanese public schools for a bit, and when actually in the classroom when this topic was covered on numerous occasions. Trust me, the revisionism is extreme. When students hit 9th grade they learn about WW2, but when I say "WW2", the ONLY thing taught was the firebombing of Tokyo and nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In fact, the material was so graphic and nasty, some of the kids that were really sweet and friendly, suddenly started treating me differently. Me being socially clumsy and blunt, I asked the teachers why other parts of Japan's role weren't covered like Nanking. They told me that it was a debated issue and therefore shouldn't be taught in schools... So basically, the deniers have such a hold on the history, it's not taught in schools.
This has gone to so much extreme that some angry Chinese started saying "what atomic bomb? There were no atomic bombs dropped in Japan, it was pure propaganda made up by the Japanese to gain more empathy". Now I'd like to ask a Japanese person how does that make them feel. Seriously though, with the rising power of China, and the growing divergence of understanding of historical account between youths in both countries, relationships are only gonna get much worse
In some ways the Japanese do view themselves as the victim of what they feel was a military takeover of the government during the 30's and 40's, but everyone in Japan also knows about Nanjing, Manchuko, and what the Japanese did in World War II. Nobody tries to cover it up or deny it, except maybe a few ultra-nationalistic politicians. In fact, that history is one of the reasons they refuse to take part in any military action against another country unless directly attacked. They don't want their country to think it's OK to invade other countries.
same to everywhere Korean school doesn't teach lots of rape in vietnam war. U.S. school doesn't teach 100 million indian killed in north america. Chinese school hides almost everything. cultural revolution killed >1M. Great Leap Forward killed >50M.
@@kimchi_taco American schools definitely cover the deaths and treatment of native Americans extensively Also, the '100 million' was mostly due to disease, not intentional killing, and occurred almost entirely before the US was a country.
@@khy8ejli800 So you're saying that we should shut up our mouths and forget your country's warcrimes. Because you given us a ton of money. With that logic Russia, Poland, and other countries should forget the Holocaust too. Stupid Imperialist.
It is saddening that the Rape of Nanking is not well known outside of Asia. This was one of the darkest episodes in human history and not many people know about it. It's also shocking that many Japanese are ignorant or in denial of its own history.
You are ignorant. Those who want to make the "Nanjing Massacre" correct are also trying to deceive the fact that Nanjing had a population of only 200,000 in December 1937. However, all the foreigners who remained in Nanjing wrote that Nanjing had a population of 200,000 at that time.
@@bluehawaii0007 no Nanjing or Nanking at the time had a population of a million people before the war reached them in 1937 and it had at least half a million people in it when the Japanese occupied the city in December of 1937. Also the many thousands of Chinese POWs that the Japanese killed in order to "preserve food" as was their defense were killed in the massacre as well. The Nanking burial records show at least 200,000 were massacred. So stop trying to deny what happened.
@@brandonarmienti7734 Clarify your rationale for Nanjing's population of 500,000 in December 1937. Who said it? What kind of material did it say? There can be no such thing. On November 28, 1937, Nanjing Police Agency Commissioner Wang Gu said, "The population of Nanjing is 200,000." This is clearly stated in John Rabe's diary. He also said that the American and German consulates in Nanjing all had a population of 200,000 to 250,000 at that time.
@@bluehawaii0007 John Rabe never conducted a systematic count. He and other foreigners saved up too 250,000 Chinese civilians but Rabe wasn't keeping count with the massacre taking place he was focused on saving lives and stopping rapes in progress not on what was Nankings population before the massacre. Using Chinese archival material, memoirs from Chinese military officials and reports from the Nanking branch of the Red Cross at the time of the Japanese occupation the population of Nanking was at least half a million people, plus the over 90,000 Chinese POWs and tens of thousands of migrants. There is no way there was only 200,000 or 250,000 people in Nanking city at the time. That's the number of Chinese civilians the foreigners saved but not the total population of the city before the massacre. Multiple studies have different numbers of the massacre. Like James Yin and Shi Young believed that 355,000 died after their investigation. Some have low numbers like Fujiwara Akira a Japanese historian believed only 50,000-60,000 were killed. The IMTFE records showed that 260,000 died. There is even evidence that the Japanese themselves believed at the time of the massacre that the death toll At Nanking may have been as high as 300,000. On January 17, 1938, Foreign Minister Hirota Koki in Tokyo relayed a message to his contacts in Washington D.C., a message that American intelligence intercepted and deciphered. It said: " Since return to Shanghai a few days ago I investigated reported atrocities committed by Japanese Army in Nanking and elsewhere. Verbal accounts of reliable eyewitnesses and letters from individuals whose credibility is beyond question afford convincing proof that Japanese Army behaved and is continuing to behave in a fashion reminiscent of Attila and his Huns. Not less than 300,000 Chinese civilians slaughtered, many cases in cold blood. Robbery, rape, including children of tender years, an insensate brutality towards civilians continues to be reported from areas where actual hostilities ceased weeks ago. Deep shame which better type of Japanese civilian here feel - reprehensible conduct of Japanese troops elsewhere heightened by series of local incidents where Japanese soldiers run amock in Shanghai itself. Today North China Daily News reports a particularly revolting case where a drunken Japanese soldier, unable to obtain women and drink he demanded, shot and killed three Chinese women over sixty and wounded several other harmless civilians."
@@brandonarmienti7734 Chinese researchers have decided to make it convenient for China. What I'm saying is who said how in December 1937. John Rabe wouldn't look at Nanjing's population. I just put out what was written in his diary. That is what the Nanjing Police Agency Commissioner Wang Gu said, "The population of Nanjing is 200,000." At that time, South Lewis sc Smythe surveyed the population of Nanjing in December 1937, and found that the population of Nanjing Castle was 200,000, the population of the camp managed by the Safety Zone Committee was 27,500, and the safety zone The rest of the population is 68,000, and the rest is the population of Nanjing city outside the safe area. When the population of Nanjing is 200,000, the "Chinese researchers" you mentioned are a new big lie to deceive because the big lie that "the Japanese army slaughtered 300,000 people in the Nanjing Massacre" is revealed. I'm just saying.
The saddest thing for me about this, is that an alarming number of Japanese have no ideas such atrocities were committed due to the way Japan's education purposely downplayed or downright ignored such events.
WW2 Expert 1) Do you unhappily and miserably believe this historic and political propaganda of Communist China and Han's eternal subsidiary nations of 2 Koreas ( South & North) and the Libtard/Dupes ? You are surely a very naive , innocent and low-educated person, aren't you ? ! Go to Nanking and look at the big stone monument with your own eyes, for Seeing is Believing. What's this real Nanking Massacre by the Han race each other between Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong even in the Sino-Japan War and before/in the WW2 till 1949 ?
WW2 Expert 2) Yuhuatai(雨花台)Martyr's Cemetery(雨花台烈士陵园) ,Nanjing was founded by Mao Zedong in 1950 at Nanjing. During 1927-1949(the republican era) the area was used for the execution of traitors. It is thought that over 100,000 communists were killed here by Chiang Kai-shek In 1950 it became a memorial for the revolutionary martyrs. Mao Zedong wrote on the monument more than 300 thousands Communist Chinese were massacred by Ching Kai-shek as below-死難烈士万歳 国民党政府在雨花台曽経屠殺了三十万共産党烈士 - The number of victims was 300 thousand is quite the same of the present so called the fake and fabricated Nanking Massacre Museum in Nanking now. Very doubtful and strange to accuse Japan with so called fake and Fabricated fraud.
@@ww2expert283 1) Why can't you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist deny or disprove logically , reasonably and rationally for my real historic fact and evidence one by one with your so poor, shallow, superficial, distorted and miserable historic knowledge in front of so many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section than you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist ?
Japan : "We are still grieving for the lost souls of WW2" Meanwhile, The 5 Japanese Stages of Grief : 1. Denial 2. Denial 3. Denial 4. Denial 5. Denial
I'm talking about their occupied lands in general. The Eastern Theater was one of the most savage places to be in WW2. The Prisoners and Occupieds get treated like dirt. Those who are alive become unpaid labour workers. And those who refuse gets their heads chopped off. Nanking got the worst, Southeast Asia got second place.
@@broom_404 In Indonesia, Japan, overseas Chinese, and the Netherlands were all evil. Postwar Developments in the Netherlands On August 17, 1945, Indonesia's Soekarno announced a declaration of independence, but the Netherlands did not recognize it and re-entered the country. As a result, 800,000 people died in the four years of war until the ceasefire in December 1949. As a result, the war lasted four years until the ceasefire in December 1949, resulting in 800,000 casualties. It is said that the War of Independence was a war of bamboo spears and tanks, because the Dutch had a wealth of modern weapons, while the Japanese had only 40,000 rifles and other weapons. Rather than apologize for the massacre at the peace negotiations, the Dutch demanded that Indonesia pay for four years of war expenses, and at the final peace negotiations in 1949, they also demanded that Indonesia pay for the entire budget deficit of the Dutch Indonesian government. Overseas Chinese became loan sharks, and Indonesians suffered through 200% interest rates.
@@johnnyjohnny4003 you've been targeted by japanese imperials followers, prepare to got flooded by their comment. (probably just a sad one person with multiple account)
@@KingTheFnsKid. the worst part is Japan really helped solidify communist control of east Asia and never even fought the ussr until the very end of the war while spending all there resources attacking the USA and Vietnam and the Philippines so the argument that Japan even fought communist in ww2 is just a flat out lie
@@user-tj8lm4ri5j Don't you know at all about the reality of this special propaganda video ? 1) Almost all viewers on this comment section already know all people except for some special Korean propagandists, Anti-Japan Han from Communist China and libtard propagandists that collaborate to produce this propaganda video on RUclips can't put copy and paste any URL, PDF , screen shot etc. especially on this comment section.
I'm Korean. My great-grandfather was taken to Japan and forced to work and died. And my grandfather, who was born in the 1920s, used to tell me stories of his childhood, which made me cry every time I heard them. He is almost 100 years old now, but he still remembers Japanese. I am sick of the historical ignorance of the Japanese. It is possible that modern Japanese do not know much about Japan's history because they do not teach it in Japan, but at least I hope that Japan does not open its mouth like a victim even though it is ignorant.
Wow that's fascinating. You should make video recordings of him recalling the memory before he passes.. may he live a long and happy life for the remaining time.
I share your pain as a fellow Korean...Even after 70 years, I don't think we have ever recovered from our collective trauma. My deepest condolences, Brother. May we mourn together and remember.
I’m half Chinese. My grandpa (mom’s side) was an officer during the war, he lost his brother, sister and friends to the Japanese. My Grandma lost her parents and her sister to the Japanese. They refused to go to Japan with my mother until the 1990’s.
My great uncle served as a POW guard in the Philippines. He said that his job was not to keep the Japanese prisoners in, but to protect the prisoners from vengeful Filipinos.
NO.49 US Army REPORT(It was recorded in 1944.) The US Army Report No.49 issued in 1944 clearly states that “Korean comfort Women were well paid prostitutes” indicating they were not “sex slaves” deprived of freedom. This is the interview survey which made a Korean comfort woman of U.S. forces the subject. When a homely Korean prostitute is allured into money of the Japanese military here, and I follow, it's recorded This report is based on the information obtained from the interrogation of twenty Korean "comfort girls" and two Japanese civilians captured around the tenth of August, 1944 in the mopping up operations after the fall of Myitkyin a in Burma. Contents The report shows how the Japanese recruited these Korean "comfort girls", the conditions under which they lived and worked, their relations with and reaction to the Japanese soldier, and their understanding of the military situation. A"comfort girl" is nothing more than a prostitute or "professional camp follower" (Record of US soldiers) The interrogations show the average Korean "comfort girl" to be about twenty-five years old, uneducated, childish, and selfish. She is not pretty either by Japanese of Caucasian standards. (Record of US soldiers) In Myitkyina the girls were usually quartered in a large two story house (usually a school building) with a separate room for each girl. There each girl lived, slept, and transacted business. (Record of US soldiers) In Myitkina their food was prepared by and purchased from the "house master" as they received no regular ration from the Japanese Army.(Record of US soldiers) They lived in near-luxury in Burma in comparison to other places. (Record of US soldiers) This was especially true of their second year in Burma.(Record of US soldiers) They lived well because their food and material was not heavily rationed and they had plenty of money with which to purchase desired articles. (Record of US soldiers) They were able to buy cloth, shoes, cigarettes, and cosmetics to supplement the many gifts given to them by soldiers who had received "comfort bags" from home.(Record of US soldiers) While in Burma they amused themselves by participating in sports events with both officers and men, and attended picnics, entertainments, and social dinners.(Record of US soldiers) They had a phonograph and in the towns they were allowed to go shopping. (Record of US soldiers) The girls were allowed the prerogative of refusing a customer. (Record of US soldiers) In the latter part of 1943 the Army issued orders that certain girls who had paid their debt could return home. Some of the girls were thus allowed to return to Korea. (Record of US soldiers)
The population of Nanking just before the Japanese occupation was about 200,000. Abou a week before the Japanese attack on Nanking, on November 28,1937, the head of the Police Department of Nanking, Mr. Wan, announced at a press conference for foreigners, "About 200,000 people still live here in Nanking." Five days after the Japanese occupation, on December 18, 1937, the International Committee for the Nanking Safety Zone, which was a group of Westerners remaining in Nanking, announced that the population of the city was about 200,000. Later, on December, the Foreigners Association in Nanking referred to 200,000 as the population of Nanking. How could the Japanese kill 300,000 citizens in a city that held only 200,000 people?
At least in German schools and universities, you get taught about our war crimes in the detail you presented in your video. It makes me sick that this part of Japan's history isn't discussed enough.
We Chinese has a saying: "The Germans regret for the war they started, the Japanese regret for the war they lost." We couldn't easily forgive Japan (more of the government, not the people) because they just hurt us so bad.
Jayden Wong Many Japanese residents in the Chinese continent in 1930s were massacred by the Han race so often as below. The Japanese got angry to the Han race. One sample of them is as below. Theer were so many massacres of the Japanese by the Han race from 1920s-1940s. But you the Han rae are no taught at all in the Han society even now. " Tongzhou Massacre incident (Tungchow mutiny) - July 29, 1937 - (通州事件) It was a genocide almost 250 Japanese citizens in Tongzhou near Beijin of China were brutally slaughtered by Chinese soldiers who were deceived and instigated by Communist Chinee spies in KMT( Chinag Kai-shek's Army) Those Chinese solders were originally due to protect Japanese citizens in Togzhou. Many photos of this Tongzhou Massacre are used at the Nanking Museum and the notorious fake and propaganda book " The Rape of Nanking" written by a Han liar and propagandist Iris Chiang of USA.
Jayden Wong You Han people must know Han people were friendly to Japan/Japanese before till 1980s. You Han people should think deeply why Communist China propagandized in Communist China to hate Japan/Japanese. It's merely for Communist Han's political tool, not historical matters at all. Here's Mao Zedong telling the Prime Minister of Japan to take back his apology "(Japan) doesn't have to say sorry, you had contributed towards China, why? Because had Imperial Japan did not start the war of invasion, how could we communist became mighty powerful? How could we stage the coup d'état? How could we defeat Chiang Kai Shek? How are we going to pay back you guys? No, we do not want your war reparations!" -Mao Zedong greeting Japanese Prime Minister Kakuei in Nanjing, 1972 Here's Mao praising Japan's contribution to his war effort "Those Japanese were real good. Without Japanese's help, China's [Communist] revolution would not have suceeded. I said the same thing to a Japanese, a capitalist, by the name of nanxiang sanlang(?).He kept on saying: 'Sorry, we did invade China' I said to him: 'Don't say that, on the contrary, Japanese helped us (Communist) in a big way', especially Japanese warlords and the Japanese Emperor." -Mao Zedong's conversation with American journalist Edgar Snow, 1970 Mao Zedong's communists were on the retreat across China from the Republic of China until Japan's timely intervention saved him. The Republic of China's military suffered over 3 million casualties from their best trained and equipped units fighting Japan, as well as over 20 million civilian deaths. The Republic of China was obligated (even though Chiang Kai Shek stalled as long as he could as he considered other Chinese greater threats than Japan) to defend her civilians against invaders which meant pitched battles in urban environments against the brunt of Japanese mechanized forces, while Mao Zedong could afford to retreat into the countryside and fight a guerrilla war ambushing small groups of Japanese soldiers. By the time the Japanese Empire was defeated, Mao had regained his strength (thousands of Japanese who surrendered were even recruited to Mao's forces) and finished off the weakened Republic.
Jayden Wong Your old and biased historical view will be changed after reading and checking following books and USA official reports. ①"Freedom Betrayed" by the USA 31st president Herbert Clark Hoover , ② "Wedemeyer Reports!" written by Army General Albert Coady Wedemeyer ③ " FDR: The Other Side of the Coin " by Hamilton Stuyvesant Fish(1888-1991)in 1976 at 87 years old, 31 years after the death of FDR , and "Tragic Deception: FDR and America's Involvement in World War II" in 1984. ④" Mirror for Americans,Japan " by Helen Mears in 1948, ⑤"America's Retreat from Victory" written by Senator Joseph R. McCarthy in 1951, ⑥ "President Roosevelt and the Coming of the War 1941", published 1948 by Charles Austin Beard but this book was prohibitted to publish even in USA for 70 years by USA govenment and the VENONA Papers of American pro-Soviet spies in 1995. ⑦ "The VENONA FILIES " publicly issued in USA in 1995 explaining how USA at that time was corrupted and deceived by more than 1,000 Pro-Soviet American Communists, Socialists and Soviet Spies and their Dupes around FDR.
I am Indonesian despite that I have chinese blood. You know almost all Indonesia people agree that japan is much more cruel than dutch during WW 2. For your information, Indonesian never did anything wrong to Japanese before WW 1/ 2 !!!
@@kevinzhong7493 1)You are a Han descendent / emigrants from Communist Chinese continent merely having the nationality of Indonesia in my opinion. 2)Could you explain well and in details how you put your new comments here with your so poor, shallow and distorted Han's historical knowledge and another new excuses or propagandas in front of many well ,highly educated intelligent viewers of many nations here on this comment section ? I guess you were not alive in the WW2 and have no experience with real Japan's Imperial Army at all. Never imagine and have wild fancies from rumors and distorted propagandas in Han's society even in Indonesia. Study the real world history with only so many real historical evidences and facts . 1) Mohammad Natsir (Fifth Prime Minister of Indonesia) " The Greater East Asian War was carried out by Japan for all Asian people. I think, in this war, we Indonesians should have fought for our own liberation. If we have military forces, we would have fought against colonialists. The Greater East Asian War was such a battle." 2) Zulkifli Lubis, Colonel of Indonesian Army " The Greater East Asian War made Asian and African countries independent. I feel sorry for Japan making all the sacrifices. " 3) Indonesia's most high-ranked medal "Nararia Medal" was awarded to six ex-Japan's Imperila army officers Mr.Maeda in 1976 and later Mr.Takasugi,Mr.Shmizu,Mr. Kogasa and Mr.Kaneko,Mr.Inamine on 17th/August 1988 by the Indonesian president Sukarno and Suharto. 4) How can you explain in the world why Indonesian Army sent the statue of Sudirman (the supreme commander of PETA,1916-1950) to Japan's Defense Army after the end of the WW2 in Jan. of 2011 ? It means Indonesia Army respected and thanked to Japan's Imperial Army in the WW2. 5) From where and whom do you think the PETA got weapons ? Did they get weapons rom the Heaven ? The PETA were given so many weapons by Japan's Imperial Army(JIA) after the end of the WW2. JIA gave their weapons secretly to the PETA after they lost the war in Indonesia and 2,000 Japanese soldiers left in Indoneisa even after the end of the WW2 to fight againt the Dutch and UK soldiers for the independance of Indonisia. 1,000 Japanese soldiers died in that battles and sleep at the Inodneial National Cemetary with Inodonesian names.
Eric Lee I'll appreciate your answer explaining with only real historic evidences and fact for my following questions and doubts to " Tf H" as a same Korean here.
@@GabrielV65 Many intelligent viewers of many nations on this comment section already exposed you are one of notorious Special Koran propagandists here with mxnxl dixexxe. Right ? Gabriel Petkov yes, i admit, I'm in reality that a Korean that's ashamed of his nationality so i lie to be Bulgarian
It is quite ridiculous that there so much coverage of Hiroshima and Nagasaki every yr while all of Japanese warcrimes are erased from history. The privilege of being a close US ally.
That and being hit by an atomic bomb. BTW you are got a historical revisionist troll, make fun of them. Also one of them is gonna call me notorious korean propagandist
@@lamia197 " Paper Dragon" is not a KOREA as I've ever exchanged our opinions here. You are surely already proved as a KOREAN here from yoir all previous commnets. Never deny it ancheck your all commnets here.
@@支那狂人 Why can't you Japanese deny or try to refute with your Japanese other real historical evidences or facts for all my real historical evidences and facts in front of many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section? Or do you Japanese have any serious problems for not being able to deny or refute for my all real historical evidences or facts in front of many intelligent and sane viewers ? I can deny or try to disprove for all your Japanese baseless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in front of all viewers of many nations on this comment section. There are so many groundless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in the historic education especially in japanese ult right and corrupt japanese government. They believe them till their deaths. did you like it japanese ult right I use your own spell against you
@@支那狂人 China is becoming more and morea powerful , there is nothing you can do about it , you can only angry and scream . Japanese a guilty conscience feels continual fear.
@@支那狂人 - I would suggest you do some research on cannibalisms against POWs and civilians by the Japanese Imperil Army. It seems the Japanese have a fondness for human flesh too.
As a german and a person that enjoys japanese entertainment, let me say this: Don’t deny it, don’t down play it, don’t make excuses. It happend and your country was responsible, learn to except it and show that you’re better. We we taught about what happend in WW2 earlier than I could remember and that that stuff was awful and we are supposed to be better. Don’t play the victim, learn to move on.
@@trueandrealhistoricalevide8590 Excuse me, I was working of information given to me by this video. Looking at comments it never seemed like there was a reason I had to doubt, that most of what was said here isn't true. I'm not an all knowing god, and this was the first time I has heard of stuff having been this bad. Thanks for informing me I will research the topic further, but please stop calling people out, seemingly unrelated, so you can push your own beliefs.
@@trueandrealhistoricalevide8590 First of all, it's very unprofessional to attack an individual during an argument. Other than that, since you claim the authority here, I demand a peer-reviewed reference for your following statement, "Harold John Timerly was employed by Chinag Kai-shek to propagandise the fiction/fabrication of the socalled Nanking massacre in USA and Europe with monthly salary 1,000 US Dollars( Now 19 thousands US Dollars per month) with other some American priests, university professors in Nanking founded by the American ,American newspaper correspondents and NAZI's death mercant John H. D. Rabe(1882-1950)."
@@jiraffe9600 If you had to debate it, while the Nazis did abuse and torture many many people, they were still indoctrinated that they were doing was a for a noble cause so they only did what *they* thought was necessary (not that any of it was necessary in the least). On the other hand, Japanese propaganda was WILD. They freely encouraged the indulgence of dehumanizing the enemy and Nanking was the direct result of that propaganda. I read somewhere there were even testimonies of many many Japanese women who were aiding the war efforts that were being sexually abused by their own soldiers as well but I will have to fact check. The Japanese seemed to have wanted to maximize the suffering per capita not caring who gets put on the end of it. Even some of the worse tortures to ever be inflicted on a human being during WW2 was attributed to the Japanese. They didn’t just want to heavily torture their victims, they wanted to evolve the art of torture to bring the suffering to new heights.
Communist Hans, Han's eternal servants of the Korean and the symbol of the ignorance and violence of the Libtard who cry and tell teachers when they hit back.
@Brett Bates Do you surely know who are owners of FRB of USA ? Do you surely know who governs almost all medias of USA ? Do you surely know who governs HOLLYWOOD ? Do you surely know who govern California, New York, Pennsylvania etc. ? Do you surely know who are Libtard/Dupes in USA ?
I'm from China. When I was a child, I remember my grandmother and grandfather called the Japanese soldiers "Green devils" , green basically refers to their uniform. My grandmother's family were massacred by them when she was a little girl but she somehow managed to survive in that freezing winter. She was the strongest woman I've ever known.
@@khfpfsregj8240 Silly billy goat. It's very likely that they disguised their conquest of southeast asia as some goody two shoes liberation mission. Even if I do take your words as true, you haven't changed my opinions about the soldiers in Korea or China in the slightest. They were not saints. At least most of them. I have heard of those medals, but I cannot help but laugh and wonder if the indonesians fell for the guise.
@@khfpfsregj8240 I was born and grow up in Indonesia, the history books I read in school wrote that 3.5 years japanese rule was worse than 350 years dutch rule, that japanese were more cruel than dutch, that japanese forced indonesians to be labor slaves and sex slaves. and we never sing PETA song! I dont even know there is PETA song. r u really indonesian?
@@khfpfsregj8240 passive disrespect. Post this as a casual comment, not a reply to someone expressing their grief for a grandparent who survived such an ordeal.
I am from Korea. My great-grandfather has had some sisters and brother. Girls have raped and murthered. Elder brother has taken to Japan. My great-grandfather was the youngest and his mother hided him into celing so he could survive. Sometimes, i feel gross when i see some Japanese who they pretend a victim
@@Themashkey lol " just china and korea" let me spill it out for you lao , vietnam , thailand , campuchia , indonesia , Malaysia , Singapore , Guam , Taiwan they obviously don`t really like japan at all
@@ZhangLee. Wait, why Thailand hate Japan? They open the borders so the Japanese can attack my country, Malaysia leaving their country untouched by Japan. Or did Japan betrayed them somehow? Even then, Malaysia is trying to have good relationship with both countries and use Japan as a role model country for modernization.
I'm Japanese and attended to a Japanese college. I did not learn these events at class but because I had interest in history I always had a discussion about history with my history teacher, he said "atomic bombs are bad but idk how it covers our crime." And I agree.
サブ芝刈王 Never pretend to be a FAKE Japanese( for example Korean--Japanese etc.) from your comment and comment style. Let me know by return if you are sure a genuine Japanese. Anyway didn'T you know this fake and fabricaated fiction of KNOWING BETTER till you go to a Japanese college ? If so it means you were a very law intellectual person.
@@crayon_logic444 1) 1) Is a Nationalist so bad in your opinion or ideology ? If so, how wring ? Could you explain me and to all other viewers on this commnet section ? 2) Who are you and from where are you ? Are you one of Libtards or its Dupes ?
@@ishukriktawgoni3270 Japan: We teach our children that we were bombed. Nothing else matters even if we raped, and similarly bombed ALL Southeast Asian countries. Lols.
@@ishukriktawgoni3270 Must be sad living in a fictional world were Japan did nothing wrong, when ALL THE WORLD knows your country's past, and yet you deny yours. No amount of propaganda and robot lies you spew here will erase the fact that your country has escaped much of what Germany had paid for. Everyone remembers. We will never allow people to forget, so that we can avoid the horrors of another "Greater" East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.
@@ishukriktawgoni3270 Blablabla. Shut up robocop. Rape of Nanking will never be buried by your lies. It will infamously be remembered by the sacrifices made by its survivors, by John Rabe, and by all historians who have written about it (Iris Chang, RIP).
Fun fact: Shinzō Abe, the current prime minister, is the grandson of the Nobusuke Kishi, the Class A war criminal mentioned at 18:18. So uh, don’t hold your breath for him ever changing his mind on Japanese war crimes existing
I thank god for making Abe born in Japan. It's really fun to watch Abe and his dept. ministers self-destroying Japan and making Japan a third-class country faster, way faster than I expected. O~~h!! Yes!!
@@susumuuchiyama8978 General Douglas McArthur, American 5 star General and the Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers. He didn't receive a just trial for his actions, and was instead released by lobbyists.
I had a Japanese person once tell me that Japan won every battle in the Pacific, so the US bombed civilians because they couldn’t beat the Japanese military, and then the government surrendered to protect their civilians, not because they were strategically defeated
Nittanyburg 20 It's no correct. Of course Imperial Japan's Army( officers and soldiers) was very brave and strong in all battles , but their high-ranked staffs of the headquarter often took some serious strategical mistakes.
@@patefreeman1739 Did you eternal ,malicious and notorious Anti-Japan special RACIST KOREAN Propagandist and Activist on the comment section of quite a fake, fabricated and baseless historic propaganda try to write something in English ? Regrettably I can't understand at all what you want to propagandize here.
@@bigman6871 Then, Why can't you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist deny or disprove logically , reasonably and rationally for my real historic facts and evidences with your so poor, shallow, superficial, distorted and miserable historic knowledge in front of so many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section than you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist ? Or don't you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist know any real historic fact and evidence till now in your whole life ? Or do you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist have any very serious problems for not being able to do so for my all real historic evidences in front of many intelligent viewers of many nations ?
@WinnieTheGrizzly Moral Lesson of the day: You can be the worst person in the world but if you are useful you can get away with it. Operation Paperclip comes to mind too.
I seriously like this guy. He doesn't give a shit what people thick about him and he only tells the truth. I do love Japan and Japanese culture, food and history, but we cannot deny the horrible things they have done in the past, as well as my country (Italy) back during WW2. This guy knows his shit! well done mate.
He's, alright. Most of the time he's good, but I've yet to watch a video of his where he hasn't made some mistake, or mischaracterised and misrepresented an issue or individual. Plus the title of his channel is egregiously arrogant. But if you keep in mind that it's not meant to be a final word, it's just some guy's opinion who thankfully at least tries to reference his work it's a good enough way to expose yourself to information and perspectives.
@@rogerwilson53 hmm, I would say that Mussolini (famous dictator of Italy from the 1920s until the end of WW2), was ok at the beginning, he provided free health care for the country, pensions, equal rights for women to get divorce from their husbands, new faster trains, free education and provided Italy with free high speed motorways. But once Hitler in Germany got to power, things for Italy started to change, Italy was afraid of a German invasion and to try to stop hitler to do so, Mussolini decided was better to become an ally with Nazi Germany than being invaded. but Italy had to make Hitler happy by deporting thousands of jews and homosexuals from the country into concentration camps or else. I'm not trying to find some excuses for the Italian's government actions, they were horrible and part of a dark side in Italian history; but it was mostly a strategy to avoid invasion, Mussolini said himself that Hitler was, and I quote "a total lunatic!"
I'm half Japanese, so this was hard to watch, but I thank you. There needs to be popular education and acknowledgement of the war crimes done by Japan. Else the rifts between the countries of East Asia will never heal.
Jay Tea We already know the following real historic fact and evidences by many intelligent viewers of many nations on this comment section. 1) Many viewers on this comment section already know well about the following real historic evidence and fact maybe except for you. How can you deny or disprove in front of many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations than you about the following real historic facts ,evidences and testimonies of many Chinese living in Japan with your so poor, shallow, non-educated, distorted and miserable historic knowledge in front of many more well an highly educated viewers of many nations than you ? Do you want to insist or propagandize all Chinese living in Japan are liars or propagandist like you ?
Jay Tea 2) Communist China's accounting of the so called doubtful Nanjing incident has been consistently propagandized by politics. During the war in 1937 Nanjing was the capital of the Chinese Nationalist government of Chiang Kai-shek, which mounted a brief investigation after the Japanese defeat in 1945. From the time of the Communist takeover in 1949 until the early 1980's there was no any claim at all to Japan from Communist China regarding so called Nanjing incident in Dec. 1937. Furthermore very curious and mysterious still, there is no record to show that Mao Zedong ,who died in 1976, ever spoke publicly about it. Other Communist China's leaders didn't mention about the so called Nanjing incident at all too. Save for a brief mention in a 1960 middle school textbook that there was a Nanjing battle between Japan's Imperial Army and Chiang Kai-shek, the Nanjing Massacre was not featured in even Chinese textbooks until the early 1980.It's well known scarcely trained Chinese conscripts stripped off their military uniforms and escaped into the Safety Zone in Nanking with some weapons. Before entering into the Safety Zone some of those Chinese conscripts killed and raped some Han residents of Nanjing to get their clothes. In recent decades, partly in response to Japan, Beijing has itself looked toward nationalism as a spur to unity and a way to quell social troubles, especially in light of Marxism's fading relevance. "It was in the last 20 years that we found it essential to intensify our PROPANGANDA, to make sure that our people remember this better," said Zhang Lianhong in 2006,a historian at Nanjing University.
Jay Tea 3) Many comments: Now in Japan there are about 1.2 million Chinese( immigrants, refugees, students, scholars, workers etc.Hans ,Tibetans, Uighurs and Mongols)of many different ages and different regions of Communist Chia. All Chinese more than about 50 years old testify and confess publicly on TV, Radio and Newspaper, magazine etc. they haven't seen or were educated the so called fake and fabricated Nanking massacre of Japan's Imperial Army at all with any school text book at any school in the Chinese continent before early 1980s as a Chinese scholar Zhang Lianhong stated. Do you want to insist or propagandize all Chinese living inJapan are liars ? Ironically saying how many FAKE so called Chinese witnesses are there now in present Communist China? Only 1, 5 or 10 thousands ?
P.S. Jiang Zmin(江泽民,1926-) became the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party from 1989.The father of Jiang Zmin is said to be a spy of Japan's Imperial Army in the Sino-Japan War in 1930s. Mao Zedong(毛泽东) died in 1976. Zhou Enlai(周恩来) died in 1976. Liu Shaoqi(刘少奇)was said to be killed in 1969 in a jail. Lin Biao(林 彪) was said to be killed in 1971. Xi-Jinping(习近平, 1953-) became the Communist Chinese president from 2008.
@@dragooll2023 no, I don't, I live in England as my other half is English, but I only ever heard the biased Japanese perspective of the situation from my mother. I don't see how the country that I live in should affect the validity of any of my points?
Tons of respect for the Japanese people, but I can't stand it when Japanese people deny their atrocities in WW2. It smears not only my country's history but also my family. My grandparents lived under Japanese occupation in Korea, saw women being raped, and lived under a system that tried to erase the people's national identity. It's also extremely insulting considering the fact some members of my family died fighting in the resistance movement.
@non dico mendacium I wasn't educated in Korea at all, I was raised in the US, so the idea of "Korean propaganda" does not apply to me because I have not been exposed to it. You are correct in claims that Koreans killed each other in mass during the 50s, such as when President Rhee killed 100,000 suspected communists without trial, or the corrupt system of the dynastic kingdoms of Korea. However, that is not what my claim is even about, pointing fingers at some other country's tarnished history does not justify another country's actions. Also, I am grateful for what Japan has done for Korea in modern times economically. In no way am I trying to imply I hate the Japanese. Do you know why Japan decided to invest so much into Korea during its occupation? It was to fully annex Korea and make it no different than mainland Japan. This goes hand-in-hand with my point earlier that the Japanese sought to erase the Korean identity, forced people to adopt Japanese names, forbid the use of Hangul, and forced people to learn and speak Japanese. These measures were put in place to encourage people to abandon the idea that they're "Korean" and to seek Japanese citizenship. In addition, many Koreans did not benefit from these investments. Many farmers were forced to send food back to Japan to supply the army, forced labor was introduced, which was rapidly increased when the Americans started winning in the Pacific. You mention slave labor and how it wasn't as harsh as it seemed. Whether its true or not, the fact it still happened should still be a problem. Yes, the Allies did commit war atrocities themselves and the Americans set up Japanese-American internment camps on the West Coast, but they never took such measures. I'm assuming you are Japanese, so I'll ask you this: why does every other country except Japan seem to acknowledge the existence of things such as the Nanking Massacre and Unit 731? Also your claim that Japanese-occupied Korea is better than present day Korea is just blatantly false. I'm pretty sure I don't have to explain why. And the fact that you claim that I'm a "propaganda mouthpiece" is insulting to me, because you are effectively calling my family a band of liars and saying that my family members gave their lives for a cause that you seem to think was worthless.
I totally agree, and the sad part is so many Americans and people in the west are clueless about what the Korean people went through along with other countries in Southeast Asia. It’s mainly because WWII is only taught as this thing that only happened in Europe and Americans don’t seem to remember the pacific which is a little sad. I admire the Japanese and their culture as well, I actually went on a trip to Japan but there was one time where I came close to arguing with the tour guide she was an American but she was half Japanese. She was nice but I mentioned that Taiwan has a lot of Japanese influence and she said Taiwan was grateful for Japanese colonization. I was about ready to go off but I couldn’t because I had to travel with her throughout the tour lol!
@@86thrasher I live in the Philippines, and the european front was covered more than the asian front besides my countrys occupation. Its sad that the asian front is under represented in history besides the bombings in Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Germany is still being blamed and bullied for what they did in World War II, despite the fact that they are trying to make up for it. Meanwhile Japan has famously committed hundreds of war crimes and almost all of the world has seemed to forgive them even though they've never gave out an apology
At one point, a group of Taiwanese natives showed up at a shrine built for soldiers who died fighting for the emperor in order to ask that their ancestors be erased from it. It is believed that the souls of the names written in the shrine are enshrined there as hero spirits, and the shrine happened to include many WW2 Japanese soldiers, including some Formosans who were paid to join Japan. When the Taiwanese showed up to ask for their ancestors' names be removed, hordes of Japanese people stepped in to stop them. They surrounded the bus they were in, refusing them entry to the shrine and harassing them. Be warned. Japanese nationalism for the empire is so strong that will steal your soul if you work for them.
I took a class in college in NY about Japan and my professor, a Japanese, was trying to downplay Japan's crimes and even called some of the stories "imaginations" I had to drop that class. What I learned from her though is that Japan is waiting for all the "comfort women" to die off so they wouldn't have anyone to apologize to, essentially.
@@kihs-jc9xk your sentences are so uncohesive no one can understand them. I don't even know what you are trying to point out. if you want to argue with an english speaker please figure out english first.
@@antitotalitariancommunistc5941 "the crimes of the Japanese are totally justified because I don't like China and because I love anime" your argument summed
I'm just learning about this now and it gets me so emotional.... this was a genocide. Not only that.... BUT THE JAPANESE DENIED IT EVEN HAPPENED. MULTIPLE TIMES.
@@hypocritekiller2377 Why can't you Japanese deny or try to refute with your Japanese other real historical evidences or facts for all my real historical evidences and facts in front of many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section? Or do you Japanese have any serious problems for not being able to deny or refute for my all real historical evidences or facts in front of many intelligent and sane viewers ? I can deny or try to disprove for all your Japanese baseless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in front of all viewers of many nations on this comment section. There are so many groundless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in the historic education especially in japanese ult right and corrupt japanese government. They believe them till their deaths. did you like it japanese ult right I use your own spell against you
@@antitotalitariancommunistc5941 Why can't you Japanese deny or try to refute with your Japanese other real historical evidences or facts for all my real historical evidences and facts in front of many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section? Or do you Japanese have any serious problems for not being able to deny or refute for my all real historical evidences or facts in front of many intelligent and sane viewers ? I can deny or try to disprove for all your Japanese baseless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in front of all viewers of many nations on this comment section. There are so many groundless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in the historic education especially in japanese ult right and corrupt japanese government. They believe them till their deaths. did you like it japanese ult right I use your own spell against you
@@antitotalitariancommunistc5941 So you guys believe korea, japan and china are the only asian countries asians who know what the japanese did and your belief of korean chinese propaganda to make the japanese look bad laugh in your direction
Sweet Tea Some intelligent viewers put comment of real historical evidence as below. I hope Communist Han, the Korean and the Libtard/Dupes in the world will be able to understand a real historical fact logically and rationally someday in future. From The New York Times March 2006 Communist China's accounting of the so called doubtful Nanjing incident has been consistently propagandized by politics. During the war in 1937 Nanjing was the capital of the Chinese Nationalist government of Chiang Kai-shek, which mounted a brief investigation after the Japanese defeat in 1945. From the time of the Communist takeover in 1949 until the early 1980's there was no any claim at all to Japan from Communist China regarding so called Nanjing incident in Dec. 1937. Furthermore very curious and mysterious still, there is no record to show that Mao Zedong ,who died in 1976, ever spoke publicly about it. Other Communist China's leaders didn't mention about the so called Nanjing incident at all too. Save for a brief mention in a 1960 middle school textbook that there was a Nanjing battle between Japan's Imperial Army and Chiang Kai-shek, the Nanjing Massacre was not featured in even Chinese textbooks until the early 1980.It's well known scarcely trained Chinese conscripts stripped off their military uniforms and escaped into the Safety Zone in Nanking with some weapons. Before entering into the Safety Zone some of those Chinese conscripts killed and raped some Han residents of Nanjing to get their clothes. In recent decades, partly in response to Japan, Beijing has itself looked toward nationalism as a spur to unity and a way to quell social troubles, especially in light of Marxism's fading relevance. "It was in the last 20 years that we found it essential to intensify our PROPANGANDA, to make sure that our people remember this better," said Zhang Lianhong in 2006,a historian at Nanjing University.
@@chinaspeoplesliberationarm7479 "China Hails a Good Nazi and Makes Japan Take Notice" NANJING, China - From the outside it does not look like much: the shell of a two-story brick building with scaffolding running up its sides and, on a drizzly winter day, a pair of construction workers kicking around in a courtyard littered with building materials. But 69 years ago the courtyard was filled with hundreds of Chinese seeking refuge from Japanese troops who were rampaging through the city, then China's capital. The invaders subjected Nanjing to a six-week reign of terror, killing large numbers of Chinese soldiers who had thrown down their weapons and murdering and raping thousands of civilians. The property was the home of John Rabe, a Nazi Party member and employee of Siemens. In addition to sheltering people in his own compound, Mr. Rabe led a score of other foreigners in the city to form an international safety zone that shielded more than 200,000 Chinese from the Japanese. Despite his heroism, Rabe was for decades all but forgotten here. Even the location of his house, today all but swallowed up by the sprawling campus of Nanjing University, was unknown. But now, amid a political and intellectual cold war with Japan that revolves to a great extent around the history of China's conquest by its neighbor, this country is seizing on the memory of a man often called "the Good Nazi," and even China's Oskar Schindler. Since the publication of Mr. Rabe's diary in 1997, his story has become a central theme in narratives of the Nanjing Massacre, much as the massacre story itself has become an important pillar in China's emerging new nationalism. In addition to the Rabe museum there is a new, minutely detailed 28-volume history of the massacre, and academics are rethinking the way the episode is taught in schools. Why this sudden interest in an event that took place nearly 70 years ago? Historians cite two reasons: to refute Japanese denials and to encourage patriotism among Chinese youth. "The Japanese right is becoming stronger and stronger, and they have denied causing the war in Asia," said Zhang Xianwen, the editor of the recently published history and director of the Center for the History of Republican China at Nanjing University. "We have decided to fight back and force Japan to admit its responsibility." Yet seven decades after the event there is still serious academic dispute, even over something so fundamental as the death toll. Estimates range from a few tens of thousands to more than 300,000, the official Chinese number that is literally set in concrete above the entranceway to the expansive Nanjing Massacre memorial here. China is by no means alone in this. In Japan, denial of the killings -- once restricted to the far-right fringe -- has entered the mainstream as the country's politics have shifted rightward. Today, in the face of the best evidence, many Japanese textbooks minimize the event, playing down suggestions of Japanese atrocities. Experts say the fact that there were mass killings is beyond any reasonable dispute. "It was not until we toured the city that we learned the extent of the destruction," Mr. Rabe wrote on Dec. 13, 1937, just a day after Japan took control of the city. "The bodies of the civilians that I examined had bullet holes in their backs. These people had presumably been fleeing and were shot from behind." His account is backed up by the few remaining survivors from his courtyard, like Mu Xifu and Li Shizhen, who fled there for shelter and married each other years later. "The Japanese were killing people and raping people," said Mr. Mu, who is 83. "You could see dead bodies in the river and all over the road." But official records tend to be scarce or unreliable. During the war Japan rigorously counted its own dead but paid little attention to Chinese casualties. The defeated Japanese military also took care to burn its records in the city. China's accounting of the incident has been consistently marred by politics. During the war Nanjing was the capital of the Chinese Nationalist government of Chiang Kai-shek, which mounted a brief investigation after the Japanese defeat in 1945. From the time of the Communist takeover in 1949 until the early 1980's, when disputes over Japanese textbooks first arose, Chinese experts say there was no serious study of the massacre. More curious still, there is no record to show that Mao, who died in 1976, ever spoke publicly about it. Save for a brief mention in a 1960 middle school textbook, the Nanjing Massacre was not featured in Chinese textbooks until the early 1980's. As recently as the early 1990's, historians and others who wanted to organize conferences about the event were barred from doing so. The decades of silence were owing in part to the government's unwillingness to recognize the resistance that China's Nationalist armies put up against the Japanese. Although recently the Nationalists' role has been acknowledged more, official histories of the war have always credited Mao's Communist armies with defeating Japan. There was also a deep sense of humiliation surrounding the fall of the city, in which scarcely trained Chinese conscripts stripped off their uniforms and fled the invading Japanese. "It is a natural Chinese character to be ashamed to speak of being raped, about being massacred while hardly resisting," said Shao Tzuping, a founder of the Alliance in Memory of the Nanjing Massacre, a private association. In recent decades, partly in response to Japan, Beijing has itself looked toward nationalism as a spur to unity and a way to quell social troubles, especially in light of Marxism's fading relevance. "It was in the last 20 years, with the Japanese denials, that we found it essential to intensify our propaganda, to make sure that our people remember this better," said Zhang Lianhong, a historian at Nanjing University. Such efforts mirror those of Japan's new rightists, who say their aim is to bring an end to what they call a masochistic style of teaching history and make young people feel proud to be Japanese. "Both the Japanese and the Chinese have clung to a sense of victimhood: the Chinese for what happened during the war, the Japanese for what happened after," said David Askew, a professor of law at Ritsumeikan University in Japan. "They are not so much interested in Nanjing as their country's place in the world." LETTER FROM CHINA Correction: March 20, 2006, Monday The Letter From China article on Wednesday, about China's new effort to educate citizens about the Nanjing Massacre of 1937, in which invading Japanese soldiers killed many thousands of Chinese, misstated the affiliation of Zhang Lianhong, a historian who said the campaign was partly a response to Japan's denials of wartime atrocities. He is at Nanjing Normal University, not Nanjing University. This article is for those who do not have access to NY Times.
Me dan risa los que se ponen a pelear de quien es el villano como si la historia fuera una pelicula, como si no fueramos el resultado de la entropía, como si no fueramos criaturas disipativas de desequilibrio térmico.
@@plusxz821 Some intelligent viewers put their comments as below for your just reference. Communist China's accounting of the so called doubtful Nanjing incident has been consistently propagandized by politics. During the war in 1937 Nanjing was the capital of the Chinese Nationalist government of Chiang Kai-shek, which mounted a brief investigation after the Japanese defeat in 1945. From the time of the Communist takeover in 1949 until the early 1980's there was no any claim at all to Japan from Communist China regarding so called Nanjing incident in Dec. 1937. Furthermore very curious and mysterious still, there is no record to show that Mao Zedong ,who died in 1976, ever spoke publicly about it. Other Communist China's leaders didn't mention about the so called Nanjing incident at all too. Save for a brief mention in a 1960 middle school textbook that there was a Nanjing battle between Japan's Imperial Army and Chiang Kai-shek, the Nanjing Massacre was not featured in even Chinese textbooks until the early 1980.It's well known scarcely trained Chinese conscripts stripped off their military uniforms and escaped into the Safety Zone in Nanking with some weapons. Before entering into the Safety Zone some of those Chinese conscripts killed and raped some Han residents of Nanjing to get their clothes. In recent decades, partly in response to Japan, Beijing has itself looked toward nationalism as a spur to unity and a way to quell social troubles, especially in light of Marxism's fading relevance. "It was in the last 20 years that we found it essential to intensify our PROPANGANDA, to make sure that our people remember this better," said Zhang Lianhong in 2006,a historian at Nanjing University. - - - - - - - - - My comment: Now in Japan there are about 1.2 million Chinese( immigrants, refugees, students, scholars, workers etc.)of many different ages and different regions of Communist Chia. All Chinese more than about 50 years old testify and confess publicly on TV, Radio and Newspaper, magazine etc. they haven't seen or were educated the so called fake and fabricated Nanking massacre of Japan's Imperial Army at all with any school text book at any school in the Chinese continent before early 1980s as a Chinese scholar Zhang Lianhong stated. Ironically saying how many FAKE so called Chinese witnesses are there now in present Communist China? Only 1, 5 or 10 thousands ?
Lemme tell you something, as a Korean. Japan did apologise and that's where some people (usually Japanese and pro-Japans) get their comforts from. Oh but there's always that however. However, their action after the apology is what renders their apology into a blank one. They constantly say things like, "Forced to work does not mean forced labour" or "we are the victims" or "we tried to protect East Asia from the west" or "we developed you guys" or "Sex slavery did not exist" and so on. It's like a criminal who killed your entire family, saying sorry in front of you but talks about how your family deserved to be killed, at your back. Their apologies and actions need to match in order for us and the still alive victims to forgive. They never show that effort and frankly, they never will as long as the Japanese people don't give a shit about politics.
Your comment is valid. Please ignore the bots. They are a shame to Japan. Please recognize that there are many different people in Japan. Most people view people with such kind of extreme nationalist views as shallow and pitiful. I am sorry for the trauma that befell on all the victims under imperial Japan.
....... This is just sad. Are you going to say that Americans are evil because they have human trafficking? Look, the Japanese did more damage then they did good.
The people who unashamedly give a shit about politics in Japan are the right wing nationalists who shout loudly. There are left wingers who also care, but don’t shout as loudly and aren’t tolerated like the right are. This provides a cover for right wing politicians to claim they are standing up for Japan - rather than actually damaging Japan’s interests by continuing to visit Yasukuni shrine, etc. Korea and Taiwan have more vibrant democracies than Japan - the weak state of democratic debate in Japan does the country no favours.
As a Chinese, we been told never forgive and forget what Japanese did in Nanking, we don’t have the right to forget them because we are not those victims, and Japanese are still denying everything, even though there are so many evidence. We don’t forgive doesn’t mean we are closefisted, just means we will never let this happen in our country again!
Dan Kirslis 3) A book published in USA ,Korea and Japan titled " So Far from the Bamboo Grove" written by Ms. Yoko Kawashima Watkins in 1986 proved so many refugees of Japanese women from the northern part of the Korean península and Manchuria to Japan were raped by northern Korean men after the end of WW2 . The Soviet Union's soldiers raped many Japanese women too, but the worst cases were by Korean men in the northern part of the Korean peninsula being supported by the Communist Soviet Union. 4) One of Allied Forces of Communist Soviet soldiers massacred and raped 400 thousands Japanese citizens , wome and children in Machuria even after the WW2 in August 1945. 5) D-Day GIs 'raped and killed their French allies while US army generals turned a blind eye'
Dan Kirslis 6) American woman in USA during the WW2 was gifted a Japanese soldier's sculp from her American boyfriend soldier who were fighting against Japan's Imperial Army in the Pacific Ocean. American soldiers killed many Japanese soldiers and boiled their sculps in hot water to remove their hairs from sculps and sent them to their girlfriends in USA. And also many American and Australian soldiers took off Japanese soldiers' gold teeth , notebooks, flags, Japanese swards etc. from dead bodies of Japanese soldiers and sold them after returning back to USA and Australia. But no any Japanese soldiers did such shameful and brutal actions in any battle fields.
Dan Kirslis 7) General MacArthur noticed at last what the WW2 with Japan was after the Korean War. But it was too late. Don't you know this statement of Douglas MacArthur as below ? Douglas MacArthur stated at the USA Congress Japan could not help starting the war against USA. USA mainly had the its responsibility. - p.170、General Macarthur Speeches & Reports: 1908-1964 Strategy Against Japan In World War II 3rd/May, 1951 Senator Hickenlooper. Question No. 5: Isn't your proposal for sea and air blockade of Red China the same strategy by which Americans achieved victory over the Japanese in the Pacific? General MacArthur. Yes, sir. In the Pacific we by-passed them. We closed in.・・・ There is practically nothing indigenous to Japan except the silkworm. They lack cotton, they lack wool, they lack petroleum products, they lack tin, they lack rubber, they lack great many other things, all of which was in the Asiatic basin.They feared that if those supplies were cut off, there would be 10 to 12 million people unoccupied in Japan.
THEIR PURPOSE, THEREFORE IN GOING TO WAR WAS LARGELY DICTATED BY SECURITY. The raw materials -- those countries which furnished raw materials for their manufacture -- such countries as Malaya, Indonesia, the Philippines, and so on -- they, with the advantage of preparedness and surprise, seized all those bases, and their general strategic concept was to hold those outlying bastions, the islands of the Pacific, so that we would bleed ourselves white in trying to reconquer them, and that the losses would be so tremendous that we would ultimately acquiesce in a treaty which would allow them to control the basic products of the places they had captured.In meeting that, we evolved an entirely new strategy. They held certain bastion points, and what we did was to evade those points, and go around them. We came in behind them, and we crept up and crept up, and crept up, always approaching the lanes of communication which led from those countries, conquered countries, to Japan. Douglas MacArthur (GHQ Commander-in-Chief) " Their purpose, therefore in going to war was laragely dictated by security. In the past 100 years, the biggest political mistake U.S. had committed was that by the defeat of Japan, we made the communist most powerful in China. "
Dan Kirslis 8) Have you ever read all documents of the Tokyo Tribunal (The International Military Tribunal for the Far East) from 1946 till 1948 ? If you've not yet read and surveyed all documents of the Tokyo Tribunal you are not qualified to mention about the so called FAKE Nanking incident matter. An American priest John Gillespie Magee was in Nanking since the beginning of the battle and stayed in Nanking at the last at the safety zone with other Chinese refugees. He managed everything in the safety zone and had all responsibilities for Chinese refugees negotiating with the Japan's Imperial Army. He could walk everywhere in Nanking and witnessed everything. He testified at the Tokyo Tribunal he witnessed by himself only one incident of murder by robber and one attempted rape incident. I don't write in details, so read those documents by yourself. It's sure there were so many mere rumors, lies and demagogies in Nanking just after the end of battle. The testimony of John G. Magee proves so called FAKE Nanking massacre. Fake story of so called FAKE Nanking massacre is perfectly a lie, fabrication and political propaganda made by Fascist Communist China especially strongly propagandized since 1980s, not 1940s 1950s 1960s 1970s. Now everyone can check the lie of Communist China on internet.
The human beings on this planet remember well USA dropped completely experimental 2 kinds of atomic bombs ( Uranium & Plutonium on purpose) 2 times on Japanese civilians including women, students , children and elderly people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki melting and seriously injuring 500 thousands Japanese and Korean-Japanese civilians in a few minutes in August 1945.
As a Japanese person; yeah, this is an issue here. It’s pretty disgusting. My parents have been brainwashed too. Edit: I didn’t expect this comment to get so much traction, but I want to add that I kind of misrepresented my parents because I didn’t feel like elaborating. I’m not exactly sure what they believe for sure. But my mother sure claimed once that she was taught this stuff, but later said she wasn’t and most of what she knows is from “her own research”. They seem to have come to respect me as the one person in the family who is probably the most likely to know her history, so I could maybe be able to convince them someday, since fortunately they’re definitely not hardline racists or imperialists. I hope, because I respect them so much. But it’s just so tiring just thinking of having to talk about this. I think they represent the mindset many Japanese people have well, in that they don’t have the full picture, and as such all the complaints from, say, the Korean government (and I don’t condone their actions either, because at times I get the impression they’re using the trauma of the victims to gain political points) really puts them off. It really shows why proper education with all the context included is important. It’s sad how little time WWII is given in history class, or so it seems since I went to an international school due to my long time overseas. Maybe that fact might invalidate my opinion to some, but I think it gives me a more objective perspective on this. I love my country, I just wish that the uneducated people here didn’t make me feel ashamed to. And all the apologies in the world mean nothing if nothing is done to make people remember why the apologies are happening. We’ve been pretty harmless to other countries for most of our history, we can be proud enough of the rest of the thousands of years of it to acknowledge the Pacific War as one of our darkest hours, for both the colonies *and* the Japanese people themselves, because that war destroyed our country, quite literally. I don’t really feel like engaging with this thread much anymore, but if you want to I can’t stop you I guess.
爪 There's no perfect education system in any nation in the world and the education at schools in any nation are merely very basic and not all. It depends on the intelligence of people of each nation.
kih48s71 Well I was raised in the states for 13 years, so I have a different POV from the mainstream, but yeah I am very much pureblood Japanese. But while I can’t say for sure, I have the feeling that they buy into the “comfort women are lying” and “Japan brought civilization to Korea” and other such propaganda. I do hope I get to convince them someday, I’m just kind of afraid to bring it up because I don’t want the conformation that my parents 100% believe this shit. But since I feel they’ve come to understand me as the closest thing to a historian in the family lately, maybe I might be able to eventually. Especially bad since my dad employs a Zainichi Korean, or at least someone who is of Korean descent.
Thank you for understanding korean's sadness. Distorded history is from who occur war in japan. They didn't be purnished and make people understand wrong information by using wrong education.
One example of Japan being the bad guys: in Avatar, the fire nation is meant as an allegory for imperial japan. So it’s not literally Japan being the bad guys, but pretty close
There's almost an irony of this video when you compare Japan to the Nazis and see just how unwilling the Nazis were to commit actual war crimes yet how much more they're demonized.
There's a saying in Japan, " if you tell a lie 100 times, it becomes truth." To this day, Japan's government officials visit Yasukuni Shrine where they keep the war criminals mortuary tablets and worship as their gods!
I'm Korean and my grandparents absolutely HATE Japan with a passion. They always talk shit about then and claim that all Japense has a special place in hell. I just thought they were being racist because even here in the U.S. Japanese war crimes is pretty supressed in the history books. They had to personally tell me that during the Japnese colonization my Grandmother's mother was a comfort woman who was murdered after being raped for God knows how long. And my grandfather was forced into slave labor since childhood and he lost 4 out 5 of his siblings from the work condition as well almost dying himself. While I don't personally have a vendetta against the Japanese I totally don't hold it against my grandparents for holding their grudge, especially when Japan is constantly denying all the suffering they endured
I could totally see why they hate the Japanese, I'm surprised they're not paying the consequences like Germany did, but now karma struck back because Japan isn't doing hot now with their debt and depression epidemic
I am from china and my great grandparents lived in the country and were fairly untouched. When I learnt about this through the internet, I was disgusted, Especially about the comfort women. I also saw it on live tv on youtube and thought it was just propaganda bs.
Gabriel Petkov Sorry, I can' agree with your comment at all !!! As far as I studied the world history with many and only real historical facts and evidences in the world for some years and as one of Koreans educated out of the Korean peninsula you seem to be a Korean too and seem to try to propgandise Korean own particular, strange and distorted insistence that noone in the world admits in my opinion.
Gabriel Petkov EXACTLY. They can’t even understand what they’re saying. They don’t know what the letter “A,” inside a letter “O,” represents in terms of my stance on Governments. They also hilariously assume my nationality, which always helps in establishing their credibility
And the most hilarious (sad) about these deniers is they assumed you are either a Chinese or Korean nationality when many who follow this channel are Americans since it is a channel filled mostly about American issues.
@@ahmedxhjiwan5734 RUclips was banned in China. No one here is from Communist China. Everyone outside Japan acknowledge Japan committed lots of war atrocities during WW2.
Wuffious Maximus Germany : We should no cooperate with crazy Hitler. Allied Forces: We lost all colonized regions in the world. Japan: We are happy to see so many colonized regions could acquire independences.
@@davidmacarthur5456 Not in the same scale, but Japan had mass murderer camps created to kill koreans during the korean colonization. And don't let me start talking about the Nankin massacre in China.
寒风青枝 1) Many well and very highly educated people in the world already know well about many fake, fabricated and groundless propaganda videos and fictions etc. by Communist China and Chinese eternal subsidiary nations of 2 Koreas ( South & North). This is the real historic Nanking Massacre by the Han race each other between Communist Mao Zedong and Chiang Kai-shek of KMT even in the Sino-Japan War and in/after the WW2 till 1949. You can loot at that big stone monument of the Nanking Massacre with your own eyes by the Han race each other built by Mao Zedong in Nanking if you visit Nanking.
寒风青枝 2) In 1927: Chinese Nationalist Party's Army (China KMT) entered in to Nanking and killed .raped and pillaged from Nanking residents. Furthermore 100 thousands Communist Chinese were massacred by KMT at the Rain Flower Terrace(Yuhuatai(雨花台)Martyr's Cemetery(雨花台烈士陵园) in Nanking.(Mao Zedong said and wrote on the monument 300 thousands Communist Chinese were massacred by KMT -- 国民党政府在雨花台曽経屠殺了三十万共産党烈士 --)But very strangely although Communist China have never criticized and blamed the top leader of KMT(People's Republic of China, now Taiwan)when they met each other there for several times, Communist China keep blaming and blaming the Japanese only with fake and fabricated lies and propagandas since 1980s, has never blamed in 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. No political leader of Communist China has never mentioned about the so called Fake Nanking massacre at all till 1980s.Because tehere was no so called Nanking massacre, but was only heavy Nanking battles between Japanese soldiers and poor soldiers of Chiang Kai-Shek who were abandoned by Chiang Kai-shek.
I'm well aware so you can keep your novel to yourself. While those are egregious as well maybe even worse because it was performed on citizens. This is the current topic. Every country has bood on their hands. Instead of your "whataboutism" in my comment section of which you added no relevant discussion why don't you suggest that the channel speaks on these issues as well 🤔
@@andorokhtuon8407 By the way you mentioned all U.S. atrocities (you missed the trail of tears just to let you know).However, what makes you think I'm in the U.S.?
@@andorokhtuon8407 Someone (@ Ashley) is stating that an atrocity took place and you bring up irrelevant incidents. Does that somehow excuse what Japan did? Gross.
I recently spent a year living in Korea. In high school I remember history classes focusing a lot on Germany and not so much the events that occurred in Asia. While living in Korea I spent a lot of time visiting museums and memorials. I was absolutely fascinated about just how much information is boiled down in the U.S. I was shocked reading about the horrors during the Japanese occupation of Korea. Not only were the Korean people tortured and Raped but they were forced to attend Japanese schools, punished for speaking or writing in Korean instead of Japanese, their religious symbols and places were destroyed and replaced with japanese theme parks, all their resources were shipped back to mainland Japan while Korean people starved and in some places were forced to live in the streets. The worst part is that the Korean people were living this way for almost 50 years. The occupation started around 1910... Most people don't realize how long the Koreans were suffering under Japanese occupation.
Korean history books are total fairy tales and have been deemed most inaccurate compared to japanese by even stanford. Did you take goverment & north korea propaganda museum as historical facts or the stone sculptures depicting tortures as if it's real?
This is why I get so angry when someone who isn't asian discovers anime and then starts defending Japan at all costs, saying america was horrible for dropping the a-bombs. They don't even know the history
Actually the atomic bombs weren't necessary in WW2. By 1945, Japanese high command wanted to surrender on their terms to avoid ending up having terrible surrender terms. They were running out of resources and were under an economic blockade. The reason kamikaze was used as a method and why the Japanese fought fiercely was so they could have agreeable surrender terms. Meanwhile, the Soviets were planning to invade Manchuria in August, and as the USA didn't want the Soviets to get on the negotiation table, the already willing to surrender Japan lost 2 cities full of tens of thousands of victims. Afterwards, generals criticised Harry Truman who gave the go ahead for this, stating that Japan was going to surrender anyways and that the bombings weren't necessary, chief among these General Eisenhower. The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is politics and humans at their lowest. It was not necessary to win the war against Japan.
@@chinggiskhan6678 That's bullshit my man and you know it. There's a reason why the emperor overrode the military junta after the second bomb was dropped.
@@camronyearout1158 The military junta was going to surrender anyways, and Emporer Hirohito was not surrendering because some people died. Hirohito worked directly with the military junta. They were going to surrender anyways, and had decided to surrender not because of some bombs being dropped but because they couldn't continue the war because they had only a few days worth of resources. The reason Japan surrendered was because they got favourable enough terms. Japan claimed it would only surrender if the USA let Hirohito keep his position, and the USA agreed to these terms of surrender. Japan hoped to get better terms, but they were running out of resources and this was the best they could get away with.
It seems some Japanese artists have tried to portray a fair depiction of their country's war crimes in China. I haven't seen it yet (because it is almost 10 hours long) but in this vein, Kobayashi's film trilogy "The Human Condition" is highly regarded and looks pretty disturbing.
thank you for this video! as a Taiwanese it disgusts me that the Japanese government refuses to apologize or even acknowledge that they forced Taiwanese women into the roles of comfort women. and for some reason people don't understand why I'm not a big fan of Japan....
Anti-Fascist Communist China some Taiwanese people do not consider themselves Chinese. Just how like some Hong Kongers don’t consider themselves Chinese.
@Anti-Fascist Communist China A your argument doesn’t really make sense. U say that just because the Nationalists of China were evil (which hey were) makes Japan guiltless and renders the role of comfort women and other atrocities as ok or non existent? B why r u going around trolling people about these horrifying crimes buried and denied by the Japanese?
My grandfather fought in Japan during WWII. Boots on the ground combat. The stories he told about it are in alignment with what is described in this video.
Travelling in Asia makes you realize this is only a secret in the Western World. I remember visiting a monastery in Philippines and suddenly when coming to the WW2 panel: "oh and the Japanese soldiers arrived and tortured and killed all 97 monks. Classic Japanese lol." Also, many Chinese movies mention such episodes. "The Red Sorghum" is a great example (and a great movie btw!)
Jérémy Quentin Oh! I seel. You special Philippine ignoramus adore the colonial days by Spain and USA, don't you ? ! You are a Han- Phlippine , aren't you ? !
Jérémy Quentin Read my comments to the below viewer " Kirk Gatchalian " and try to reply for my questions and doubts logically, reasonably and rationally in front of many more intelligent viewers of many nations on this comment section than you .
@dAmE dA nE Because ordinary genuine local Philippine people and your president love Japan/the Japanese so much more than the Han race from Communist China and 2 Koreas ( South & North ).
For meI actually adore the colonial days of Spain and the US. Spain shaped our history and culture and the US made our country great and helped us defend against the japanes
7-8,000,000 civilians killed in experiments or just for shits and giggles is something that only war fever will do It’s scary how effectively axis civilians were swept up by this hype, really shows how weak we humans really are.
Yeah man I was in middle school when I played it and that clip in the beginning made me learn about what they did in Asia. My school never taught me that!
UNSIEJDYEODJIU IS A BOT DON'T RESPOND TO HIM I'VE SEEN THE STUFF HE COMMENTED POSTED TWO DIFFERENT TIMES BY DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS HE IS A BOT DON'T LISTEN TO HIM
I have visited Hiroshima and the museum at the site. If you didn’t know better, you would think that the Japanese were just minding their own business that day when an atomic bomb was dropped out of nowhere
When Japan colonized Indonesia for only 3 years 5 months, what they did was more cruel than when Indonesia was colonized by the Dutch who colonized Indonesia for 350 years.
Ok I am Japanese. I acknowledged you hate Japan although Japanese imperial army sacrificed their lives for Indonesian independence. And Japan has been giving huge support do develop Indonesia. Japan should stop giving Japanese tax payers blood money to countries which hate Japan and start creating closer connection with countries which are good for Japan like India , Taiwan and so on. Good Bye Indonesia. Keep suking up CCP.
@@keikotunoda426 lol a big big lie Japanese will not give the Indonesian people they're independent and also if the colonized country did not develop, what would the colonizers get?
It disheartens me whenever I have conversations with people who don't know or don't want to know the extent of how far the Asian side of World War II went. You have no idea how much this video means to me and my culture. Thank you.
One of the weirdest 'primary sources' on what happened to POWs taken by the Japanese is the St Trinian's comics by Ronald Searle. He started making them as a coping strategy for what happened to him whilst a POW in the Pacific, re-imagining his experiences in the more innocent and familiar setting of an English boarding school. Sometimes you read through them and it's like, yeah this is funny, teenage girls smoking pot, teenage girls committing crime, teenage girls being tortured and whipped by their teachers - Yeah, that last one is the kind directly inspired by his experiences. It's very surreal and brutal. The final cartoon has the girls blowing up the school in a 'nuclear accident'.
I made a presentation in the Japanese University about this, and my Japanese classmates gave the comments saying u shouldn’t show us these creepy photos. I was gutted again..
Fak your classmates… tell them that their grandfathers took those photos.. tbf, my grandfather himself saw their friends got tortured by japanese soldiers back then. They struck a water pipe into his friend’s mouth and make him bloat, then the soldiers jump on his stomach..Oh btw i’m malaysian
I think there is a very apparent disconnect among the youth between the past events and the present world they live in. That is something we need to work with, and I have to say it is a failure of our education system.
This is sad because my family was yet another victim of the war, my great grandmother's mom was captured then blindfolded and killed by Japanese soldiers.... Yeah, we're all not alone by ourselves :(
@@kxszuhev7082 pretty soon we'll need to start an archive with all of your alt accounts. I've found two: ug4876dkv and Je97CsR3 honestly do your goddamn research and carefully sanitize your brain of all the shit stuck to it before commenting on youtube.
@@kxszuhev7082 ah add kxsz uhev to the list honestly im not willing to believe anyone with a functioning brain would spam comment this. i swear you're a bot. also watch the damn video and do your own research. cite sources when you come back.
@@kxszuhev7082 lmao so u think ur the only one who knows crap about this? if everyone opposes you you're the one in the wrong. by you I include your other bot friends.
I mean, that really depends on the definition of "honour". If your definition of honour is something that's close to the pop culture depiction of "western" chivalry, then of course gang-rape of civilian women (or hell, anyone) would be unthinkable. However, if your definition of honour is absolute loyalty to (e.g. "meine Ehre heißt Treue" of the Nazi SS), then any and all atrocities could be excused away by simply following orders.
@@rushfan32 What's this ?Yuhuatai(雨花台)Martyr's Cemetery(雨花台烈士陵园) Nanjing was founded by Mao Zetong in 1950 at Nanjing. During 1927-1949(the republican era) the area was used for the execution of traitors. It is thought that over 100,000 communists were killed here by Chiang Kai-shek In 1950 it became a memorial for the revolutionary martyrs.Mao Zetong wrote on the monument more than 300 thousands Communist Chinese were massacred by Ching Kai-shek as below-死難烈士万歳 国民党政府在雨花台曽経屠殺了三十万共産党烈士 - The number of victims was 300 thousnads is quite the same of the present socalled fake and fabricated Nanking massacre museum. Very doubtful and strange to accuse Japan with socalled fake and Fabricated fraud.
@@rushfan32 Solicit me if you want to know and study more seriously about many real historical evidence to deny the baseless, fake and fabricated Nanking massacre by Communist China just after 1980s !!!
@@slaughterersofthemankind6353 Bark all you want bot but without sources you're just blaberring out bullshit, the majority of asia knows what the japanese did
As a Japanese person myself, all I have to say is this is one of the most disgusting recurring themes that take place in Japan a lot(especially in politics). I cant state enough how grateful I am for certain freedoms in America because of this
@David Kim Yeah its really quite disturbing. These people need to get off of their fucking computers and go meet some people of different races without going into it with this autistic bias that they have. Like yeah people are different but its not a bad thing and it doesn't make them less human than you.
I know it has been a few years, but thank you for this video. As a Chinese person, I'm just so annoyed when people act so clueless about why China and Japan do not have a good relationship. And no, it's not because Japan is currently allied with the US - not everything has to do with the US. I know that it's from a lack of knowledge, but while I don't necessarily mind educating people on the events of NanJing (or as the video calls it, Nanking), it sucks when after I take the time to educate them they still don't believe me. "It must be Chinese propaganda! It wasn't that bad! Can't call it genocide if it's only one city!" It was that bad, and if this doesn't qualify as genocide than I don't know what's their criteria for genocide. And China was not the only country affected by the Japanese invasion. Other Asian countries including Korea have their own tales to share. Just because it doesn't fit into the narrative that you have learnt doesn't mean you can disregard other countries' history. "You like anime you must love Japan!" I like anime. I also don't have any animosity against the individual Japanese person. They also have a beautiful country. It doesn't mean that I have to love the ideologies and actions of their country. And as long as the Japanese government refuses to acknowledge the past actions of their country, they cannot claim that they have changed. "It was ages ago anyway! You should just let it go!" Will you ask a Jew to just forget about what happened in Germany, simply because it's no longer ruled by the Nazis? It has not even been a hundred years since WW2. Also, I think the Asian countries affected would be more inclined to "let it go" if the Japanese government didn't live in denial and properly apologised and made reparation. They cannot claim to have apologised if they still refuses to acknowledge some of their actions during the war and continue to honour war criminals in their shrine.
@@kuensbbsheydjn518 bruh, your some kind of bot or troll, since i see you u in the comment section in almost every video about japanese war crimes with your comment always having 8 likes, no less than 8 likes but always jist either 8 or 12, which makes me think your some damn bot.
@@meanjune I doubt it is debate since I don't see them actually read anything another than something that is in their favour. Hell they can't even provide the solid evidence.
It's something they held during the era of the(unwritten) Bushido code is strict to its core. Surrendering to them is shameful, dying to the last man is honorable( unwavering loyal to the lord,cause and clan. As well the family of the deceased honor is maintained ) if captured ether they were given the chance restoring/maintain honor is Seppuku. Those who wish not to take their own lives....well prepare for the worst from your enemies. It's sounds like pride but it's their core beliefs of the warriors code. If you already, watch "the last samurai " simple example of the Samurai code in the end
@@mobiusZero2 OK, I get all the above, but my question was about officers lying and denying their actions during the following trials. Isn't that dishonorable?
mobiuszero If surrender was so shameful for them, why were they such cowards and not admit the atrocities they’ve done during their imperial reign? Bushido my ass.
Lying aside, how is killing unarmed anything not dishonorable? If someone gave up their weapon and surrendered, how is killing him/her not dishonorable?
@@Peizxcv In a humanistic perspective i totally agree. The thing is that by dehumanizing the enemy there's no difference in the killer's psychology than squashing bugs. "They're not humans therefor there is no dishonor in using them as target practice etc etc". It happened and will occur in every military occupation.
Before watching this video: I mean the japanese were bad but germany... After: Holy shit those soldiers had no souls. What is wrong with humanity, how could anybody commit such atrocities.
@@支那狂人 Dude as the other guy just said I cant really understand your comment but I think you are accusing me of being paid to critizice japanese war crimes xD and thats just false. Im Peruvian and have no connection to Japan, China or Corea. I was just reacting to this video.
Some soldiers actually were proud of what they did, just like a few handfuls of Japanese prostitution volunteers who considered it an honor to ‘serve’ the nation during WW2.
Nothing like seeing pictures of people brutalized in unjustifiable manners just to be stopped by a Jet’s Pizza ad of “If you weren’t hungry then, you’re hungry now.” Yikes.
@@Juneth-xz7lv lol u r ignorant denying all war crimes of japanese, as far as chinese yes many chinese were killed by communism by mao just as russian getting killed by stalin , but this is not about chinese , this is about japanese war crimes in south eastern countries . Just playing victim of war
@@Juneth-xz7lv So the fact that the Maoists behaved like proper cunts after world war two somehow justifies Japans many crimes and atrocities during the war?
I've lived in Korea for one year and believe me, people here in east Asia haven't forgotten about the crimes of the Japanese. I suppose westerners forget because it happened far away to people belonging to very foreign cultures. Most people in the former Japanese colonies have very negative views of the Japanese government.
Kawaii Culture is not an effort by Japan to erase its history. It was born out of a desire to demilitarize and pacify the culture. It is okay to still like anime.
Big thanks to Suibhne for working with me on this video, check out his series on China here: ruclips.net/video/YP1qjTzxQNE/видео.html
Dude, you've got to make a video that has Jordan Peterson's name in the title with some kind of other word that shows that you are countering a claim he's made. I get you mentioned him before, but you need to have his name in the title. You are so hidden and it will get a shitload of attention with more subscribers. It has worked for others and your videos are high quality.
Hah, I appreciate the advice - but just having him in the thumbnail brought out the racists and defenders. I try not to clickbait.
Knowing Better Once when I played a strategy game with my friend, I had almost won and made a joke saying "I will round up all your citizans and force them to rape dogs for my amusement".
THIS WAS THE REAL GOD DAMN VERSION OF THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't feel the Vox video you cited really supports your claim about Kawaii culture here. You're still framing it as if it was a conscious effort on the part of Japan to manipulate it's populace, which is a pretty extraordinary claim.
From what I've heard Sanrio became popular because it awarded young adult office workers a small escape from the stress and conformity of corporate culture.
Wow, look, I get what you're trying to do, but your history -- not to mention your pronunciation -- is completely off for the lead up parts. Please learn how to pronounce Nanjing and Suzhou (a lovely city I call home). Your history of China guy also can't pronounce anything right -- given that he also get the historical record mostly wrong, that's not surprising. The whole big brother/little brother thinking was absolutely gone by the 1890s. It ended after Cixi rejected reform. Japan wanted to for an Asian alliance against European colonialism and to get Asian nations to reform and advance. Cixi rejected this leading to the First Sino-Japanese War, the ending of the Self-Strengthening Movement, and finally cumulating in the Boxer Rebellion. During which Japan, along with Western countries invaded China put down the rebellion and turn China into a subject nation. Then you talk about Versailles but don't mention that China was also an ally and how they got screwed and how this lead to the May 4th Movement and made Japan's colonization of China when into top gear. I had to stop watching the video. I hope you got to the point where, though Japan committed atrocities as bad or worse than Germany, the US decided to look the other way because they needed Japan to be a bulwark against communism. So they turned a blind eye to Japanese war crimes and helped pump up the economy. So much so a war criminal even became Prime Minister of Japan. Look you have good intentions, but please do more research than the basic we all learn in high school.
Germany: "We must make sure it never happen again"
Japan: "We must make sure it never happened"
@@tnbx4735 you’re a product of great Japanese propaganda
@@tnbx4735 any evidence or sources?
@@tnbx4735 could you atleast direct me to site?
@@tnbx4735 hey Doraemon
Why can't you Japanese deny or try to refute with your Japanese other real historical evidences or facts for all my real historical evidences and facts in front of many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section? Or do you Japanese have any serious problems for not being able to deny or refute for my all real historical evidences or facts in front of many intelligent and sane viewers ?
I can deny or try to disprove for all your Japanese baseless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in front of all viewers of many nations on this comment section.
Why can't you Japanese do so?
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"Next time we'll do it without the Italians" isn't that uncommon of a phrase for a modern day German to hear when he happens to visit Japan and have a few drinks with a Japanese person.
There's this running joke that states:
"Germany regrets starting a war, meanwhile Japan regrets losing one."
@@hssceya Japan and Germany were both humiliated in the war (especially Japan), and only grew economically due to American aid.
@@hssceya hes literally right. Without the allies support after ww2 japan and Germany wouldn't be the economic super powers they are today.
@@hssceya ok bro
いや、当たり前だろ。
石油を止めて日本を戦争に向かわせたのはアメリカだからな?
@@hssceya japanese bot
My grand mother is a rape victim during ww2 in the Philippines. When she's still alive she told us the atrocity done by the japanese army in our town. . Her parents and siblings got killed by japanese soldiers, many girls raped and houses burned down. In the 90s my grand mother fought with other victims to get an apology and compensation from Japanese government. The japanese government that time denied the rape allegation and claims it is only a propaganda against them. My grandma died of old age without getting an apology. I believe an apology is not enough for what the japanese government did that time...
May your Nanay Rest In Peace
It's so bizarre how obsessed Japan was with honor at the time yet they pulled extremely dishonorable stuff. And when a guy offs himself over WORDS, but not RAPE and MURDER... it's just messed up beyond belief.
Honor is nothing but a slang for fascists to protect their national identity
I remember Zuko because of HONOR 🤣👏
and they decided to continue bayonetting a dead corpse of a guy who was a dentist that killed a lot of japanese on his own
Bushido code also says sneak attack your enemy, disguise yourself as an enemy soldier to sneak in, steal and loot. Their form of honor is different than ours.
Their entire culture is messed up and wrong
I grew up in the Japanese education system and this a real problem.
We have gatherings for the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki but there is never any mention of all the people who were killed by the Japanese’s.
When Obama came to Hiroshima everyone was saying that this is the first formal apology from the U.S. and that it was long over due.But still no mention of the fact Japan has never apologized there war crimes.And yet we are still teaching school children that Japan suffered the most. It is very disgraceful on Japans behalf.
It is important to examine both the truth and the propaganda.
You can get the information by searching, that's all.
fact check!
Bondy Rabit
Are you a Fake Japanese like Korean/Han --Japanese ?
Why don't you have a courage to reply for my question and doubt to you a Fake Japanese ?
Obama is a disgrace, only made things worse.
@@粱澤楷 You're actually offended, aren't you? Must be tough having skin that thin.
@@粱澤楷 L
You know something's gone horribly wrong when the Nazis are the ones shouting "hold up, time out."
The Avenger at Ilipa now this is an avenger level threat
Well to be fair there were some, although very few in number, of Nazis that were disgusted by the holocaust and did make attempts to save Jewish lives. The Nazis were after all the political party of a totalitarian state where virtually any sort of power is gained through membership of the Nazi party.
It was one good man. Not the Nazi's. And from his own accounts it sounds like he was in denial about what they were doing back in Europe. And he wasn't only forbidden to talk about Nanking when he got back to Europe. He was arrested and treated as a traitor.
John Smith What’s with that unrelated “goy” joke? Feeling triggered by any chance?
Why does no one mention Croatia during ww2
For a country that's all about honor, it's really embarassing how they can't even take responsibility for what they did.
honor for them is absolute loyalty, its not like chivalrous honor portrayed in western culture, also its more on not failing on duty and keeping tradition(dont point it out to all the jp people, its mostly because of the imperials and nationalists that still denies the sins of the past and their ancestor's involvement and even now continue to brainwash new jp generation, dont generalize and not every jp is involved or even responsible)
Well, to be precise, the military’s wrongdoing during WW2 wasn’t directly encouraged by Japanese government.
The military went way off of the government’s control; some soldiers even assassinated Japanese Prime Ministers because of them opposing military activities(5.15 and 3.18 incidents , for example)
I’m not defending Japan. They definitely need to make an apology for Rape of Nanking. However, I disagree with those who paralleling this problem with Holocaust because these two war crimes differ from each other in presence of nations’ intention.
everyone throwing around the word 'honor'. i think, to them, honor means protecting one's country at any means whatever the cost. when they're right, they protect their country. when they're wrong, they protect their country. #honor
Japan did apologize and offered to pay money to support the families that were infected to the South Korean Government. But the government never paid to the families and blamed it to the Japanese Government. Also going back to apologizing, Japanese Government apologized many times to South Korean states and some places refuses to accept the apology. Japanese honour is more of traditional beliefs of their ancestors, for example if there is a 5th gen knife blacksmith, he needs to live up for his family name for making knives. I think that bringing up Japanese honour is a wrong for this situation.
UFO963 Japanese culture is more based on Shame and the aversion thereof than on Honor. I think.
As a Japanese citizen, it's embarrassing how little I knew on this topic until now. Thank you so much for this. It's so important for Japanese teenagers like me to be properly informed on the atrocities committed by my own country.
cyka duka
We look forward to reading your new reply comment for " KUGTU(837" as soon as possible !
You are the first Japanese person I have seen in this comment acknowledging it . Some times I also think of my country's atrocities just knowing it is step towards bettering yourself
I'm not ashamed to admit this, Cyka... I've known about this for sometime.
It's this brutality where my respect for Japan was initially born. It wasn't anime. It was their ability to demonstrate utter wanton cruelty.
To be perfectly honest, it's something I still strongly respect about your culture.
... Coulda toned down on the rape though. heh.
Here in the USofA we're not taught of our war crimes either. We blew up 2 dams in N. Korea, even tho idk how many Nazi leaders were on trial for performing this very action in Belgium during WW2. Writing history seems to be a very selective process
@@user-isntavailable Same in the UK, you don't really learn about the horrors of the British Empire until university.
You know it's bad when the Nazis tell you to chill out
You must be a very wise man, however I would like to ask you if you've seen someone by the name of Adolf Hitler, he was said to have escaped to Argentina
@@quasar7951 no, doesn't ring a bell. Would you like a glass of juice?
@@bootdude7527 why of course kind sir
@@bootdude7527Is hitler a distant cousin? you too seem to look alike
@@quasar7951 You win the whole fucking Internet, sir. You win the whole fucking thing, forever and for all time.
I taught English in Japanese public schools for a bit, and when actually in the classroom when this topic was covered on numerous occasions. Trust me, the revisionism is extreme. When students hit 9th grade they learn about WW2, but when I say "WW2", the ONLY thing taught was the firebombing of Tokyo and nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In fact, the material was so graphic and nasty, some of the kids that were really sweet and friendly, suddenly started treating me differently. Me being socially clumsy and blunt, I asked the teachers why other parts of Japan's role weren't covered like Nanking. They told me that it was a debated issue and therefore shouldn't be taught in schools... So basically, the deniers have such a hold on the history, it's not taught in schools.
This has gone to so much extreme that some angry Chinese started saying "what atomic bomb? There were no atomic bombs dropped in Japan, it was pure propaganda made up by the Japanese to gain more empathy".
Now I'd like to ask a Japanese person how does that make them feel.
Seriously though, with the rising power of China, and the growing divergence of understanding of historical account between youths in both countries, relationships are only gonna get much worse
In some ways the Japanese do view themselves as the victim of what they feel was a military takeover of the government during the 30's and 40's, but everyone in Japan also knows about Nanjing, Manchuko, and what the Japanese did in World War II. Nobody tries to cover it up or deny it, except maybe a few ultra-nationalistic politicians. In fact, that history is one of the reasons they refuse to take part in any military action against another country unless directly attacked. They don't want their country to think it's OK to invade other countries.
Aaron - that’s sad they started treating you differently. You weren’t responsible for what happened.
same to everywhere
Korean school doesn't teach lots of rape in vietnam war.
U.S. school doesn't teach 100 million indian killed in north america.
Chinese school hides almost everything. cultural revolution killed >1M. Great Leap Forward killed >50M.
@@kimchi_taco American schools definitely cover the deaths and treatment of native Americans extensively
Also, the '100 million' was mostly due to disease, not intentional killing, and occurred almost entirely before the US was a country.
As a filipino im aware of what they did during the war. Stories from my grandmas are horific
@@khy8ejli800 "do the Philippine want more money?"
What??
@@VHSmonarchy I guess your white Christian God abandoned you when the Vietnam war happened huh?
Same my grandma tells me about the atrocities that happened in South Korea.
@@YamPoop dam right he did
@@khy8ejli800 So you're saying that we should shut up our mouths and forget your country's warcrimes. Because you given us a ton of money. With that logic Russia, Poland, and other countries should forget the Holocaust too. Stupid Imperialist.
It is saddening that the Rape of Nanking is not well known outside of Asia. This was one of the darkest episodes in human history and not many people know about it. It's also shocking that many Japanese are ignorant or in denial of its own history.
You are ignorant.
Those who want to make the "Nanjing Massacre" correct are also trying to deceive the fact that Nanjing had a population of only 200,000 in December 1937.
However, all the foreigners who remained in Nanjing wrote that Nanjing had a population of 200,000 at that time.
@@bluehawaii0007 no Nanjing or Nanking at the time had a population of a million people before the war reached them in 1937 and it had at least half a million people in it when the Japanese occupied the city in December of 1937. Also the many thousands of Chinese POWs that the Japanese killed in order to "preserve food" as was their defense were killed in the massacre as well.
The Nanking burial records show at least 200,000 were massacred. So stop trying to deny what happened.
@@brandonarmienti7734
Clarify your rationale for Nanjing's population of 500,000 in December 1937.
Who said it? What kind of material did it say?
There can be no such thing.
On November 28, 1937, Nanjing Police Agency Commissioner Wang Gu said, "The population of Nanjing is 200,000."
This is clearly stated in John Rabe's diary.
He also said that the American and German consulates in Nanjing all had a population of 200,000 to 250,000 at that time.
@@bluehawaii0007 John Rabe never conducted a systematic count. He and other foreigners saved up too 250,000 Chinese civilians but Rabe wasn't keeping count with the massacre taking place he was focused on saving lives and stopping rapes in progress not on what was Nankings population before the massacre.
Using Chinese archival material, memoirs from Chinese military officials and reports from the Nanking branch of the Red Cross at the time of the Japanese occupation the population of Nanking was at least half a million people, plus the over 90,000 Chinese POWs and tens of thousands of migrants.
There is no way there was only 200,000 or 250,000 people in Nanking city at the time. That's the number of Chinese civilians the foreigners saved but not the total population of the city before the massacre.
Multiple studies have different numbers of the massacre. Like James Yin and Shi Young believed that 355,000 died after their investigation. Some have low numbers like Fujiwara Akira a Japanese historian believed only 50,000-60,000 were killed. The IMTFE records showed that 260,000 died.
There is even evidence that the Japanese themselves believed at the time of the massacre that the death toll At Nanking may have been as high as 300,000. On January 17, 1938, Foreign Minister Hirota Koki in Tokyo relayed a message to his contacts in Washington D.C., a message that American intelligence intercepted and deciphered.
It said:
" Since return to Shanghai a few days ago I investigated reported atrocities committed by Japanese Army in Nanking and elsewhere. Verbal accounts of reliable eyewitnesses and letters from individuals whose credibility is beyond question afford convincing proof that Japanese Army behaved and is continuing to behave in a fashion reminiscent of Attila and his Huns. Not less than 300,000 Chinese civilians slaughtered, many cases in cold blood. Robbery, rape, including children of tender years, an insensate brutality towards civilians continues to be reported from areas where actual hostilities ceased weeks ago. Deep shame which better type of Japanese civilian here feel - reprehensible conduct of Japanese troops elsewhere heightened by series of local incidents where Japanese soldiers run amock in Shanghai itself. Today North China Daily News reports a particularly revolting case where a drunken Japanese soldier, unable to obtain women and drink he demanded, shot and killed three Chinese women over sixty and wounded several other harmless civilians."
@@brandonarmienti7734
Chinese researchers have decided to make it convenient for China.
What I'm saying is who said how in December 1937.
John Rabe wouldn't look at Nanjing's population.
I just put out what was written in his diary.
That is what the Nanjing Police Agency Commissioner Wang Gu said, "The population of Nanjing is 200,000."
At that time, South Lewis sc Smythe surveyed the population of Nanjing in December 1937, and found that the population of Nanjing Castle was 200,000, the population of the camp managed by the Safety Zone Committee was 27,500, and the safety zone The rest of the population is 68,000, and the rest is the population of Nanjing city outside the safe area.
When the population of Nanjing is 200,000, the "Chinese researchers" you mentioned are a new big lie to deceive because the big lie that "the Japanese army slaughtered 300,000 people in the Nanjing Massacre" is revealed. I'm just saying.
"name a movie or film where japan is the bad guy, I bet you can't"
me, who grew up in China : " YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER"
you've piqued my interest, any notable examples?
@@aayjay1600 one of the latest to come out is The Eight Hundred, which takes place in the siege of Shanghai.
@@stevenw2933 I just watched it it’s pretty good any other suggestions
"Don't try it"
Definitely. In the West, Nazis are the cliche supervillain. In China, it's the Japanese.
The saddest thing for me about this, is that an alarming number of Japanese have no ideas such atrocities were committed due to the way Japan's education purposely downplayed or downright ignored such events.
WW2 Expert
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Do you unhappily and miserably believe this historic and political propaganda of Communist China and Han's eternal subsidiary nations of 2 Koreas ( South & North) and the Libtard/Dupes ? You are surely a very naive , innocent and low-educated person, aren't you ? !
Go to Nanking and look at the big stone monument with your own eyes, for Seeing is Believing.
What's this real Nanking Massacre by the Han race each other between Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong even in the Sino-Japan War and before/in the WW2 till 1949 ?
WW2 Expert
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Yuhuatai(雨花台)Martyr's Cemetery(雨花台烈士陵园) ,Nanjing was founded by Mao Zedong in 1950 at Nanjing.
During 1927-1949(the republican era) the area was used for the execution of traitors. It is thought that over 100,000 communists were killed here by Chiang Kai-shek In 1950 it became a memorial for the revolutionary martyrs. Mao Zedong wrote on the monument more than 300 thousands Communist Chinese were massacred by Ching Kai-shek as below-死難烈士万歳 国民党政府在雨花台曽経屠殺了三十万共産党烈士 -
The number of victims was 300 thousand is quite the same of the present so called the fake and fabricated Nanking Massacre Museum in Nanking now. Very doubtful and strange to accuse Japan with so called fake and Fabricated fraud.
@@taiwanisdefinitelyaindepen3351 Oh hi there, fella who is so no life as to literally spend your time creating numerous account to justify a lie.
@@taiwanisdefinitelyaindepen3351 Also did you just like your own comments?
@@ww2expert283
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Why can't you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist deny or disprove logically , reasonably and rationally for my real historic fact and evidence one by one with your so poor, shallow, superficial, distorted and miserable historic knowledge in front of so many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section than you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist ?
Japan : "We are still grieving for the lost souls of WW2"
Meanwhile, The 5 Japanese Stages of Grief :
1. Denial
2. Denial
3. Denial
4. Denial
5. Denial
Toho made a Godzilla movie about this.
“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray Cinespia
Are they referring to Nanking or Pearl Harbor?
@@davidlafleche1142 WW2 in general. They only teach about the nuclear bonbs
I'm talking about their occupied lands in general. The Eastern Theater was one of the most savage places to be in WW2. The Prisoners and Occupieds get treated like dirt. Those who are alive become unpaid labour workers. And those who refuse gets their heads chopped off. Nanking got the worst, Southeast Asia got second place.
Thanks!
"the average nazi treated the Jewish people as numbers while the average Japanese soldier treated the Chinese as entertainment"
Another event: "Japan saved a lot of Jews."
Very true comparison. Both are sickening and twisted, but somehow the chaotic nature of Japan’s seems worse
@@garyusya4748 lmao no
In Indonesia, everyone always says Japan's 3.5 years occupation in Indonesia did way more damage to Indonesia than what Netherlands did for 300 years
@@broom_404 In Indonesia, Japan, overseas Chinese, and the Netherlands were all evil.
Postwar Developments in the Netherlands
On August 17, 1945, Indonesia's Soekarno announced a declaration of independence, but the Netherlands did not recognize it and re-entered the country.
As a result, 800,000 people died in the four years of war until the ceasefire in December 1949.
As a result, the war lasted four years until the ceasefire in December 1949, resulting in 800,000 casualties. It is said that the War of Independence was a war of bamboo spears and tanks, because the Dutch had a wealth of modern weapons, while the Japanese had only 40,000 rifles and other weapons.
Rather than apologize for the massacre at the peace negotiations, the Dutch demanded that Indonesia pay for four years of war expenses, and at the final peace negotiations in 1949, they also demanded that Indonesia pay for the entire budget deficit of the Dutch Indonesian government.
Overseas Chinese became loan sharks, and Indonesians suffered through 200% interest rates.
The fact that prisoners of war photos from Japanese Camps look identical to Holocaust victims should tell you the sheer cruelty Japan unleashed.
the Japanese victims look far worse with their heads decapitated and babies being thrown around as bayonet practice
@@johnnyjohnny4003 you've been targeted by japanese imperials followers, prepare to got flooded by their comment. (probably just a sad one person with multiple account)
@@KingTheFnsKid. the worst part is Japan really helped solidify communist control of east Asia and never even fought the ussr until the very end of the war while spending all there resources attacking the USA and Vietnam and the Philippines so the argument that Japan even fought communist in ww2 is just a flat out lie
@Sl Mi there’s not many genocides that aren’t absolutely cruel
@@KingTheFnsKid. trust me the CCP doesnt need to fake that ,because the fact the japan faked being attacked to attack china is ald bad enough
Germany after 1945: Yeah we totally did that it was fucked up won't happen again
Japan after 1945: Nah y'all are trippin that shit never happened
Rat Boy
Are you a Korean descendent ? Because of your typical stereo-typed Korean comment about only German NAZI.
@@tarantulaxii7399bot
@@user-tj8lm4ri5j
Why does a bot know so many real historic facts and evidences than you ?
@@tarantulaxii7399 can you list some facts then?
@@user-tj8lm4ri5j
Don't you know at all about the reality of this special propaganda video ?
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Almost all viewers on this comment section already know all people except for some special Korean propagandists, Anti-Japan Han from Communist China and libtard propagandists that collaborate to produce this propaganda video on RUclips can't put copy and paste any URL, PDF , screen shot etc. especially on this comment section.
I'm Korean.
My great-grandfather was taken to Japan and forced to work and died.
And my grandfather, who was born in the 1920s, used to tell me stories of his childhood, which made me cry every time I heard them. He is almost 100 years old now, but he still remembers Japanese.
I am sick of the historical ignorance of the Japanese. It is possible that modern Japanese do not know much about Japan's history because they do not teach it in Japan, but at least I hope that Japan does not open its mouth like a victim even though it is ignorant.
wow thats so horrible. im sorry for your loss :( its good that he tells you stories so you can spread awareness
Sorry to offend any Japanese, Japan deserved the atomic bomb in WW2 if that could save innocent Asians from tortue
Wow that's fascinating. You should make video recordings of him recalling the memory before he passes.. may he live a long and happy life for the remaining time.
I share your pain as a fellow Korean...Even after 70 years, I don't think we have ever recovered from our collective trauma. My deepest condolences, Brother. May we mourn together and remember.
I’m half Chinese. My grandpa (mom’s side) was an officer during the war, he lost his brother, sister and friends to the Japanese. My Grandma lost her parents and her sister to the Japanese.
They refused to go to Japan with my mother until the 1990’s.
One thing I’ve learned studying history is this: there are no countries without blood on their hands. That said, this is extreme.
@Red Coin Good comment by @John Stuart. Very ordinary reply.
Go dome so research about the green March in Morocco. A war won without blood.
@Red Coin, So True!
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@@classonbread5757 they still shot down plenty of planes on both sides and had a few towns bombed
My great uncle served as a POW guard in the Philippines. He said that his job was not to keep the Japanese prisoners in, but to protect the prisoners from vengeful Filipinos.
wow thats nuts
@@andreypnovikov5730 tf??
@@andreypnovikov5730 You aren't making any sense..
@@andreypnovikov5730 dude what is wrong with you I think you should stop using the Internet for a few years and go outside.
@@andreypnovikov5730 are u alright?
I love how RUclips just casually gives me a "Travel to Japan" ad right after I finish watching your video, LMAO
Dimalik SAME wth
Legit readin your comment to probably the same ad.
NO.49 US Army REPORT(It was recorded in 1944.)
The US Army Report No.49 issued in 1944 clearly states that “Korean comfort Women were well paid prostitutes” indicating they were not “sex slaves” deprived of freedom.
This is the interview survey which made a Korean comfort woman of U.S. forces the subject. When a homely Korean prostitute is allured into money of the Japanese military here, and I follow, it's recorded
This report is based on the information obtained from the interrogation of twenty Korean "comfort girls" and two Japanese civilians captured around the tenth of August, 1944 in the mopping up operations after the fall of Myitkyin a in Burma.
Contents
The report shows how the Japanese recruited these Korean "comfort girls", the conditions under which they lived and worked, their relations with and reaction to the Japanese soldier, and their understanding of the military situation.
A"comfort girl" is nothing more than a prostitute or "professional camp follower" (Record of US soldiers)
The interrogations show the average Korean "comfort girl" to be about twenty-five years old, uneducated, childish, and selfish. She is not pretty either by Japanese of Caucasian standards. (Record of US soldiers)
In Myitkyina the girls were usually quartered in a large two story house (usually a school building) with a separate room for each girl. There each girl lived, slept, and transacted business. (Record of US soldiers)
In Myitkina their food was prepared by and purchased from the "house master" as they received no regular ration from the Japanese Army.(Record of US soldiers)
They lived in near-luxury in Burma in comparison to other places. (Record of US soldiers)
This was especially true of their second year in Burma.(Record of US soldiers)
They lived well because their food and material was not heavily rationed and they had plenty of money with which to purchase desired articles.
(Record of US soldiers)
They were able to buy cloth, shoes, cigarettes, and cosmetics to supplement the many gifts given to them by soldiers who had received "comfort bags" from home.(Record of US soldiers)
While in Burma they amused themselves by participating in sports events with both officers and men, and attended picnics, entertainments, and social dinners.(Record of US soldiers)
They had a phonograph and in the towns they were allowed to go shopping.
(Record of US soldiers)
The girls were allowed the prerogative of refusing a customer.
(Record of US soldiers)
In the latter part of 1943 the Army issued orders that certain girls who had paid their debt could return home. Some of the girls were thus allowed to return to Korea.
(Record of US soldiers)
The population of Nanking just before the Japanese occupation was about 200,000. Abou a week before the Japanese attack on Nanking, on November 28,1937, the head of the Police Department of Nanking, Mr. Wan, announced at a press conference for foreigners, "About 200,000 people still live here in Nanking." Five days after the Japanese occupation, on December 18, 1937, the International Committee for the Nanking Safety Zone, which was a group of Westerners remaining in Nanking, announced that the population of the city was about 200,000. Later, on December, the Foreigners Association in Nanking referred to 200,000 as the population of Nanking.
How could the Japanese kill 300,000 citizens in a city that held only 200,000 people?
Victoria hello why are u copy pasting these everywhere
At least in German schools and universities, you get taught about our war crimes in the detail you presented in your video. It makes me sick that this part of Japan's history isn't discussed enough.
You must take my above historic examination.
We Chinese has a saying:
"The Germans regret for the war they started, the Japanese regret for the war they lost." We couldn't easily forgive Japan (more of the government, not the people) because they just hurt us so bad.
Jayden Wong Many Japanese residents in the Chinese continent in 1930s were massacred by the Han race so often as below. The Japanese got angry to the Han race. One sample of them is as below.
Theer were so many massacres of the Japanese by the Han race from 1920s-1940s.
But you the Han rae are no taught at all in the Han society even now.
" Tongzhou Massacre incident (Tungchow mutiny) - July 29, 1937 - (通州事件)
It was a genocide almost 250 Japanese citizens in Tongzhou near Beijin of China were brutally slaughtered by Chinese soldiers who were deceived and instigated by Communist Chinee spies in KMT( Chinag Kai-shek's Army) Those Chinese solders were originally due to protect Japanese citizens in Togzhou. Many photos of this Tongzhou Massacre are used at the Nanking Museum and the notorious fake and propaganda book " The Rape of Nanking" written by a Han liar and propagandist Iris Chiang of USA.
Jayden Wong You Han people must know Han people were friendly to Japan/Japanese before till 1980s. You Han people should think deeply why Communist China propagandized in Communist China to hate Japan/Japanese. It's merely for Communist Han's political tool, not historical matters at all.
Here's Mao Zedong telling the Prime Minister of Japan to take back his apology
"(Japan) doesn't have to say sorry, you had contributed towards China, why? Because had Imperial Japan did not start the war of invasion, how could we communist became mighty powerful? How could we stage the coup d'état? How could we defeat Chiang Kai Shek? How are we going to pay back you guys? No, we do not want your war reparations!"
-Mao Zedong greeting Japanese Prime Minister Kakuei in Nanjing, 1972
Here's Mao praising Japan's contribution to his war effort
"Those Japanese were real good. Without Japanese's help, China's [Communist] revolution would not have suceeded. I said the same thing to a Japanese, a capitalist, by the name of nanxiang sanlang(?).He kept on saying: 'Sorry, we did invade China' I said to him: 'Don't say that, on the contrary, Japanese helped us (Communist) in a big way', especially Japanese warlords and the Japanese Emperor."
-Mao Zedong's conversation with American journalist Edgar Snow, 1970
Mao Zedong's communists were on the retreat across China from the Republic of China until Japan's timely intervention saved him. The Republic of China's military suffered over 3 million casualties from their best trained and equipped units fighting Japan, as well as over 20 million civilian deaths.
The Republic of China was obligated (even though Chiang Kai Shek stalled as long as he could as he considered other Chinese greater threats than Japan) to defend her civilians against invaders which meant pitched battles in urban environments against the brunt of Japanese mechanized forces, while Mao Zedong could afford to retreat into the countryside and fight a guerrilla war ambushing small groups of Japanese soldiers.
By the time the Japanese Empire was defeated, Mao had regained his strength (thousands of Japanese who surrendered were even recruited to Mao's forces) and finished off the weakened Republic.
Jayden Wong Your old and biased historical view will be changed after reading and checking following books and USA official reports.
①"Freedom Betrayed" by the USA 31st president Herbert Clark Hoover ,
② "Wedemeyer Reports!" written by Army General Albert Coady Wedemeyer
③ " FDR: The Other Side of the Coin " by Hamilton Stuyvesant Fish(1888-1991)in 1976 at 87 years old, 31 years after the death of FDR , and "Tragic Deception: FDR and America's Involvement in World War II" in 1984.
④" Mirror for Americans,Japan " by Helen Mears in 1948,
⑤"America's Retreat from Victory" written by Senator Joseph R. McCarthy in 1951,
⑥ "President Roosevelt and the Coming of the War 1941", published 1948 by Charles Austin Beard but this book was prohibitted to publish even in USA for 70 years by USA govenment and the VENONA Papers of American pro-Soviet spies in 1995.
⑦ "The VENONA FILIES " publicly issued in USA in 1995 explaining how USA at that time was corrupted and deceived by more than 1,000 Pro-Soviet American Communists, Socialists and Soviet Spies and their Dupes around FDR.
I am Indonesian despite that I have chinese blood. You know almost all Indonesia people agree that japan is much more cruel than dutch during WW 2. For your information, Indonesian never did anything wrong to Japanese before WW 1/ 2 !!!
@@kevinzhong7493
1)You are a Han descendent / emigrants from Communist Chinese continent merely having the nationality of Indonesia in my opinion.
2)Could you explain well and in details how you put your new comments here with your so poor, shallow and distorted Han's historical knowledge and another new excuses or propagandas in front of many well ,highly educated intelligent viewers of many nations here on this comment section ?
I guess you were not alive in the WW2 and have no experience with real Japan's Imperial Army at all.
Never imagine and have wild fancies from rumors and distorted propagandas in Han's society even in Indonesia. Study the real world history with only so many real historical evidences and facts .
1)
Mohammad Natsir (Fifth Prime Minister of Indonesia)
" The Greater East Asian War was
carried out by Japan for all Asian people. I think, in this war, we Indonesians should have
fought for our own liberation. If we have military forces, we would have fought against
colonialists. The Greater East Asian War was such a battle."
2)
Zulkifli Lubis, Colonel of Indonesian Army
" The Greater East Asian War made Asian and African countries
independent. I feel sorry for Japan making all the sacrifices. "
3)
Indonesia's most high-ranked medal "Nararia Medal" was awarded to six ex-Japan's Imperila army officers Mr.Maeda in 1976 and later Mr.Takasugi,Mr.Shmizu,Mr. Kogasa and Mr.Kaneko,Mr.Inamine on 17th/August 1988 by the Indonesian president Sukarno and Suharto.
4)
How can you explain in the world why Indonesian Army sent the statue of Sudirman (the supreme commander of PETA,1916-1950) to Japan's Defense Army after the end of the WW2 in Jan. of 2011 ? It means Indonesia Army respected and thanked to Japan's Imperial Army in the WW2.
5)
From where and whom do you think the PETA got weapons ? Did they get weapons rom the Heaven ? The PETA were given so many weapons by Japan's Imperial Army(JIA) after the end of the WW2. JIA gave their weapons secretly to the PETA after they lost the war in Indonesia and 2,000 Japanese soldiers left in Indoneisa even after the end of the WW2 to fight againt the Dutch and UK soldiers for the independance of Indonisia. 1,000 Japanese soldiers died in that battles and sleep at the Inodneial National Cemetary with Inodonesian names.
As a Korean, this video really gave me some relief that at least there are non-Asian people finally taking a serious look at the situation.
Eric Lee
I'll appreciate your answer explaining with only real historic evidences and fact for my following questions and doubts to " Tf H" as a same Korean here.
Eric ignore the person above, he's not worth talking to
@@GabrielV65
Many intelligent viewers of many nations on this comment section already exposed you are one of notorious Special Koran propagandists here with mxnxl dixexxe. Right ?
Gabriel Petkov
yes, i admit, I'm in reality that a Korean that's ashamed of his nationality so i lie to be Bulgarian
@@tarantulaxii7399 *many intelligent people* bla bla bla
@@tarantulaxii7399 Honestly, I didn't understand what you said so...can you use proper English.
It is quite ridiculous that there so much coverage of Hiroshima and Nagasaki every yr while all of Japanese warcrimes are erased from history. The privilege of being a close US ally.
That and being hit by an atomic bomb.
BTW you are got a historical revisionist troll, make fun of them.
Also one of them is gonna call me notorious korean propagandist
@@paperdragon2122 = Usual notorious KOREAN propagandist here
@@lamia197 " Paper Dragon" is not a KOREA as I've ever exchanged our opinions here. You are surely already proved as a KOREAN here from yoir all previous commnets. Never deny it ancheck your all commnets here.
@@freetibetanuighursouthernm4502 You check your comments.
@Gabriel Petkov I just say " Paper Dragon" is not a KOREAN. What do you KOREAN want to insist with your absurd commnet ?
you know once a time, in Nanking university, the lecturer asks who's great-grandfather is the local of Nanking, and then no one raises a hand.
Men were wiped out.. almost.
He didn't even mention Unit 731, which may be the most horrific of the Japanese war crimes I know.
@@支那狂人 aw does exposing all those horrific deeds make you feel insecure?
@@支那狂人 Why can't you Japanese deny or try to refute with your Japanese other real historical evidences or facts for all my real historical evidences and facts in front of many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section? Or do you Japanese have any serious problems for not being able to deny or refute for my all real historical evidences or facts in front of many intelligent and sane viewers ?
I can deny or try to disprove for all your Japanese baseless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in front of all viewers of many nations on this comment section.
There are so many groundless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in the historic education especially in japanese ult right and corrupt japanese government. They believe them till their deaths.
did you like it japanese ult right I use your own spell against you
@@支那狂人 China is becoming more and morea powerful , there is nothing you can do about it , you can only angry and scream .
Japanese a guilty conscience feels continual fear.
@@支那狂人 are u trying to deny war crimes? Damn
@@支那狂人 - I would suggest you do some research on cannibalisms against POWs and civilians by the Japanese Imperil Army. It seems the Japanese have a fondness for human flesh too.
As a german and a person that enjoys japanese entertainment, let me say this: Don’t deny it, don’t down play it, don’t make excuses. It happend and your country was responsible, learn to except it and show that you’re better.
We we taught about what happend in WW2 earlier than I could remember and that that stuff was awful and we are supposed to be better.
Don’t play the victim, learn to move on.
@@trueandrealhistoricalevide8590 Excuse me, I was working of information given to me by this video.
Looking at comments it never seemed like there was a reason I had to doubt, that most of what was said here isn't true.
I'm not an all knowing god, and this was the first time I has heard of stuff having been this bad.
Thanks for informing me I will research the topic further, but please stop calling people out, seemingly unrelated, so you can push your own beliefs.
@@trueandrealhistoricalevide8590 First of all, it's very unprofessional to attack an individual during an argument. Other than that, since you claim the authority here, I demand a peer-reviewed reference for your following statement, "Harold John Timerly was employed by Chinag Kai-shek to propagandise the fiction/fabrication of the socalled Nanking massacre in USA and Europe with monthly salary 1,000 US Dollars( Now 19 thousands US Dollars per month) with other some American priests, university professors in Nanking founded by the American ,American newspaper correspondents and NAZI's death mercant John H. D. Rabe(1882-1950)."
True and real historical evidences Give us a fucking source
@@trueandrealhistoricalevide8590 give the fuqing source
@@trueandrealhistoricalevide8590 yeah sure kid
Even the Nazis were like: "woah dude, that's pretty f*** up'
Yeah bit like they have any say they did way worse
@@mastercookie5149 ehh, worse is debatable.
@@jiraffe9600 one word: holocaust
@@ulty1472 I mean it was, but the Japanese also did things in the rest of their conquered territories.
@@jiraffe9600 If you had to debate it, while the Nazis did abuse and torture many many people, they were still indoctrinated that they were doing was a for a noble cause so they only did what *they* thought was necessary (not that any of it was necessary in the least). On the other hand, Japanese propaganda was WILD. They freely encouraged the indulgence of dehumanizing the enemy and Nanking was the direct result of that propaganda. I read somewhere there were even testimonies of many many Japanese women who were aiding the war efforts that were being sexually abused by their own soldiers as well but I will have to fact check. The Japanese seemed to have wanted to maximize the suffering per capita not caring who gets put on the end of it. Even some of the worse tortures to ever be inflicted on a human being during WW2 was attributed to the Japanese. They didn’t just want to heavily torture their victims, they wanted to evolve the art of torture to bring the suffering to new heights.
Japan's the bully who cries and tells the teacher when you hit back
Communist Hans, Han's eternal servants of the Korean and the symbol of the ignorance and violence of the Libtard who cry and tell teachers when they hit back.
@@nsjduiisystru9733 are you a bot
@Brett Bates
Do you surely know who are owners of FRB of USA ?
Do you surely know who governs almost all medias of USA ?
Do you surely know who governs HOLLYWOOD ?
Do you surely know who govern California, New York, Pennsylvania etc. ?
Do you surely know who are Libtard/Dupes in USA ?
@@nsjduiisystru9733 yeah not Koreans
Exactly. And these bullies don't learn.
I'm from China. When I was a child, I remember my grandmother and grandfather called the Japanese soldiers "Green devils" , green basically refers to their uniform. My grandmother's family were massacred by them when she was a little girl but she somehow managed to survive in that freezing winter. She was the strongest woman I've ever known.
KHFPFSREGJ what does this have to do with this comment?
@@khfpfsregj8240 Silly billy goat. It's very likely that they disguised their conquest of southeast asia as some goody two shoes liberation mission. Even if I do take your words as true, you haven't changed my opinions about the soldiers in Korea or China in the slightest. They were not saints. At least most of them. I have heard of those medals, but I cannot help but laugh and wonder if the indonesians fell for the guise.
@@khfpfsregj8240 I was born and grow up in Indonesia, the history books I read in school wrote that 3.5 years japanese rule was worse than 350 years dutch rule, that japanese were more cruel than dutch, that japanese forced indonesians to be labor slaves and sex slaves. and we never sing PETA song! I dont even know there is PETA song. r u really indonesian?
@@khfpfsregj8240 passive disrespect. Post this as a casual comment, not a reply to someone expressing their grief for a grandparent who survived such an ordeal.
I am from Korea. My great-grandfather has had some sisters and brother. Girls have raped and murthered. Elder brother has taken to Japan. My great-grandfather was the youngest and his mother hided him into celing so he could survive. Sometimes, i feel gross when i see some Japanese who they pretend a victim
And people wonder why Japan has tense relations with a lot of eastern powers.
The more you know.
Well just china and korea. Other asians countries mostly are cool with japan. I mean even vietnam hates china more than japan.
@@Themashkey lol " just china and korea" let me spill it out for you lao , vietnam , thailand , campuchia , indonesia , Malaysia , Singapore , Guam , Taiwan they obviously don`t really like japan at all
@@ZhangLee. Wait, why Thailand hate Japan? They open the borders so the Japanese can attack my country, Malaysia leaving their country untouched by Japan. Or did Japan betrayed them somehow? Even then, Malaysia is trying to have good relationship with both countries and use Japan as a role model country for modernization.
@@ZhangLee. Taiwan Hmm No Thailand No
Shinzo Abe was even the maternal grandson of said Class A War criminal, Nobusuke Kishi, and even in the same party.
he couldn’t help who he was descended from lmao
@@twistedbliss58 still joined the same party and denied the horrendous actions of his grandparent which he could help lmao
@@colamola okay whatever helps you sleep at night
I'm Japanese and attended to a Japanese college. I did not learn these events at class but because I had interest in history I always had a discussion about history with my history teacher, he said "atomic bombs are bad but idk how it covers our crime." And I agree.
サブ芝刈王
Never pretend to be a FAKE Japanese( for example Korean--Japanese etc.) from your comment and comment style. Let me know by return if you are sure a genuine Japanese.
Anyway didn'T you know this fake and fabricaated fiction of KNOWING BETTER till you go to a Japanese college ? If so it means you were a very law intellectual person.
How are you sure that he is pretending? Also, why are the people who disagree with you automatically Korean and Chinese?
@@mr.jaegar8788 it's not so difficult if you are a Japanese.
@@freetibetanuighursouthernm4502 what a nationalist. Disgusting
@@crayon_logic444 1) 1) Is a Nationalist so bad in your opinion or ideology ? If so, how wring ? Could you explain me and to all other viewers on this commnet section ?
2) Who are you and from where are you ? Are you one of Libtards or its Dupes ?
Germany: We teach our children what we did wrong.
Japan: We teach our children what the others did wrong.
@@ishukriktawgoni3270 Japan: We teach our children that we were bombed. Nothing else matters even if we raped, and similarly bombed ALL Southeast Asian countries. Lols.
So true lol
@@ishukriktawgoni3270 What's up robocop? Right-wing Japan government paying you enough to spam?
@@ishukriktawgoni3270 Must be sad living in a fictional world were Japan did nothing wrong, when ALL THE WORLD knows your country's past, and yet you deny yours. No amount of propaganda and robot lies you spew here will erase the fact that your country has escaped much of what Germany had paid for. Everyone remembers. We will never allow people to forget, so that we can avoid the horrors of another "Greater" East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.
@@ishukriktawgoni3270 Blablabla. Shut up robocop. Rape of Nanking will never be buried by your lies. It will infamously be remembered by the sacrifices made by its survivors, by John Rabe, and by all historians who have written about it (Iris Chang, RIP).
Fun fact: Shinzō Abe, the current prime minister, is the grandson of the Nobusuke Kishi, the Class A war criminal mentioned at 18:18. So uh, don’t hold your breath for him ever changing his mind on Japanese war crimes existing
@@newfederalstateofchina760 how is someone's bloodline "Chinese propaganda"?
I thank god for making Abe born in Japan. It's really fun to watch Abe and his dept. ministers self-destroying Japan and making Japan a third-class country faster, way faster than I expected. O~~h!! Yes!!
Who defined class A war criminal?
@@susumuuchiyama8978 General Douglas McArthur, American 5 star General and the Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers. He didn't receive a just trial for his actions, and was instead released by lobbyists.
@@susumuuchiyama8978 Tojo Hideki, Hirohito = Class A War Criminals
Fun Fact: shinzo abe's also the grandson of Nobusuke Kishi, who was the dictator of manchuria, where he did unit731 level stuff.
guess thats one down, none left
I had a Japanese person once tell me that Japan won every battle in the Pacific, so the US bombed civilians because they couldn’t beat the Japanese military, and then the government surrendered to protect their civilians, not because they were strategically defeated
Nittanyburg 20
It's no correct. Of course Imperial Japan's Army( officers and soldiers) was very brave and strong in all battles , but their high-ranked staffs of the headquarter often took some serious strategical mistakes.
@@patefreeman1739
Did you eternal ,malicious and notorious Anti-Japan special RACIST KOREAN Propagandist and Activist on the comment section of quite a fake, fabricated and baseless historic propaganda try to write something in English ?
Regrettably I can't understand at all what you want to propagandize here.
@@vacuumdecay4686 Coping much?
God, I hope this is just bait
@@bigman6871
Then, Why can't you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist deny or disprove logically , reasonably and rationally for my real historic facts and evidences with your so poor, shallow, superficial, distorted and miserable historic knowledge in front of so many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section than you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist ?
Or don't you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist know any real historic fact and evidence till now in your whole life ?
Or do you notorious Anti-Japan/Japanese special racist KOREAN propagandist have any very serious problems for not being able to do so for my all real historic evidences in front of many intelligent viewers of many nations ?
@@vacuumdecay4686 bruh, did you just liked your own comment? That's so cringe
In Norway, my school books portrayed that Japan was "forced" into the war and did not mention anything bad they did
@WinnieTheGrizzly lol
@WinnieTheGrizzly Moral Lesson of the day: You can be the worst person in the world but if you are useful you can get away with it.
Operation Paperclip comes to mind too.
Mauricio Aguilar
TBF a lot of the German scientists recruited where forced to work by the nazis.
Do they talk about 5th and 11th division of German Waffen SS?
When 90% of your salmon is sold to japan you better change history
Finaly someone said it. People just tend to ignore that Japan had concentration camps and racist ideologies aswell.
China and North Korea have them today. Even Russia has prison camps purely for political prisoners.
@@Christobanistan at a far smaller scale through
I seriously like this guy. He doesn't give a shit what people thick about him and he only tells the truth. I do love Japan and Japanese culture, food and history, but we cannot deny the horrible things they have done in the past, as well as my country (Italy) back during WW2. This guy knows his shit! well done mate.
Agreed!
He's, alright. Most of the time he's good, but I've yet to watch a video of his where he hasn't made some mistake, or mischaracterised and misrepresented an issue or individual. Plus the title of his channel is egregiously arrogant. But if you keep in mind that it's not meant to be a final word, it's just some guy's opinion who thankfully at least tries to reference his work it's a good enough way to expose yourself to information and perspectives.
@@PaddyMcMe What are the mistakes? I'm curious now
How bad was italy?? I heard they were the least bad.
@@rogerwilson53 hmm, I would say that Mussolini (famous dictator of Italy from the 1920s until the end of WW2), was ok at the beginning, he provided free health care for the country, pensions, equal rights for women to get divorce from their husbands, new faster trains, free education and provided Italy with free high speed motorways. But once Hitler in Germany got to power, things for Italy started to change, Italy was afraid of a German invasion and to try to stop hitler to do so, Mussolini decided was better to become an ally with Nazi Germany than being invaded. but Italy had to make Hitler happy by deporting thousands of jews and homosexuals from the country into concentration camps or else. I'm not trying to find some excuses for the Italian's government actions, they were horrible and part of a dark side in Italian history; but it was mostly a strategy to avoid invasion, Mussolini said himself that Hitler was, and I quote "a total lunatic!"
I'm half Japanese, so this was hard to watch, but I thank you.
There needs to be popular education and acknowledgement of the war crimes done by Japan. Else the rifts between the countries of East Asia will never heal.
Jay Tea
We already know the following real historic fact and evidences by many intelligent viewers of many nations on this comment section.
1) Many viewers on this comment section already know well about the following real historic evidence and fact maybe except for you.
How can you deny or disprove in front of many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations than you about the following real historic facts ,evidences and testimonies of many Chinese living in Japan with your so poor, shallow, non-educated, distorted and miserable historic knowledge in front of many more well an highly educated viewers of many nations than you ?
Do you want to insist or propagandize all Chinese living in Japan are liars or propagandist like you ?
Jay Tea
2)
Communist China's accounting of the so called doubtful Nanjing incident has been consistently propagandized by politics.
During the war in 1937 Nanjing was the capital of the Chinese Nationalist government of Chiang Kai-shek, which mounted a brief investigation after the Japanese defeat in 1945. From the time of the Communist takeover in 1949 until the early 1980's there was no any claim at all to Japan from Communist China regarding so called Nanjing incident in Dec. 1937.
Furthermore very curious and mysterious still, there is no record to show that Mao Zedong ,who died in 1976, ever spoke publicly about it. Other Communist China's leaders didn't mention about the so called Nanjing incident at all too. Save for a brief mention in a 1960 middle school textbook that there was a Nanjing battle between Japan's Imperial Army and Chiang Kai-shek, the Nanjing Massacre was not featured in even Chinese textbooks until the early 1980.It's well known scarcely trained Chinese conscripts stripped off their military uniforms and escaped into the Safety Zone in Nanking with some weapons. Before entering into the Safety Zone some of those Chinese conscripts killed and raped some Han residents of Nanjing to get their clothes.
In recent decades, partly in response to Japan, Beijing has itself looked toward nationalism as a spur to unity and a way to quell social troubles, especially in light of Marxism's fading relevance. "It was in the last 20 years that we found it essential to intensify our PROPANGANDA, to make sure that our people remember this better," said Zhang Lianhong in 2006,a historian at Nanjing University.
Jay Tea
3) Many comments:
Now in Japan there are about 1.2 million Chinese( immigrants, refugees, students, scholars, workers etc.Hans ,Tibetans, Uighurs and Mongols)of many different ages and different regions of Communist Chia. All Chinese more than about 50 years old testify and confess publicly on TV, Radio and Newspaper, magazine etc. they haven't seen or were educated the so called fake and fabricated Nanking massacre of Japan's Imperial Army at all with any school text book at any school in the Chinese continent before early 1980s as a Chinese scholar Zhang Lianhong stated.
Do you want to insist or propagandize all Chinese living inJapan are liars ?
Ironically saying how many FAKE so called Chinese witnesses are there now in present Communist China? Only 1, 5 or 10 thousands ?
P.S.
Jiang Zmin(江泽民,1926-) became the General Secretary of
the Chinese Communist Party from 1989.The father of Jiang Zmin is said to be a spy of Japan's Imperial Army in the Sino-Japan War in 1930s.
Mao Zedong(毛泽东) died in 1976. Zhou Enlai(周恩来) died in 1976. Liu Shaoqi(刘少奇)was said to be killed in 1969 in a jail.
Lin Biao(林 彪) was said to be killed in 1971.
Xi-Jinping(习近平, 1953-) became the Communist Chinese president from 2008.
"Half japenese" You probably don't even live on Japan
@@dragooll2023 no, I don't, I live in England as my other half is English, but I only ever heard the biased Japanese perspective of the situation from my mother. I don't see how the country that I live in should affect the validity of any of my points?
Tons of respect for the Japanese people, but I can't stand it when Japanese people deny their atrocities in WW2. It smears not only my country's history but also my family. My grandparents lived under Japanese occupation in Korea, saw women being raped, and lived under a system that tried to erase the people's national identity. It's also extremely insulting considering the fact some members of my family died fighting in the resistance movement.
@non dico mendacium I wasn't educated in Korea at all, I was raised in the US, so the idea of "Korean propaganda" does not apply to me because I have not been exposed to it. You are correct in claims that Koreans killed each other in mass during the 50s, such as when President Rhee killed 100,000 suspected communists without trial, or the corrupt system of the dynastic kingdoms of Korea. However, that is not what my claim is even about, pointing fingers at some other country's tarnished history does not justify another country's actions. Also, I am grateful for what Japan has done for Korea in modern times economically. In no way am I trying to imply I hate the Japanese.
Do you know why Japan decided to invest so much into Korea during its occupation? It was to fully annex Korea and make it no different than mainland Japan. This goes hand-in-hand with my point earlier that the Japanese sought to erase the Korean identity, forced people to adopt Japanese names, forbid the use of Hangul, and forced people to learn and speak Japanese. These measures were put in place to encourage people to abandon the idea that they're "Korean" and to seek Japanese citizenship. In addition, many Koreans did not benefit from these investments. Many farmers were forced to send food back to Japan to supply the army, forced labor was introduced, which was rapidly increased when the Americans started winning in the Pacific.
You mention slave labor and how it wasn't as harsh as it seemed. Whether its true or not, the fact it still happened should still be a problem. Yes, the Allies did commit war atrocities themselves and the Americans set up Japanese-American internment camps on the West Coast, but they never took such measures.
I'm assuming you are Japanese, so I'll ask you this: why does every other country except Japan seem to acknowledge the existence of things such as the Nanking Massacre and Unit 731?
Also your claim that Japanese-occupied Korea is better than present day Korea is just blatantly false. I'm pretty sure I don't have to explain why. And the fact that you claim that I'm a "propaganda mouthpiece" is insulting to me, because you are effectively calling my family a band of liars and saying that my family members gave their lives for a cause that you seem to think was worthless.
I totally agree, and the sad part is so many Americans and people in the west are clueless about what the Korean people went through along with other countries in Southeast Asia. It’s mainly because WWII is only taught as this thing that only happened in Europe and Americans don’t seem to remember the pacific which is a little sad. I admire the Japanese and their culture as well, I actually went on a trip to Japan but there was one time where I came close to arguing with the tour guide she was an American but she was half Japanese. She was nice but I mentioned that Taiwan has a lot of Japanese influence and she said Taiwan was grateful for Japanese colonization. I was about ready to go off but I couldn’t because I had to travel with her throughout the tour lol!
I can’t stand it when Americans deny their own atrocities in WW2 too
non dico mendacium hello, what’s your take on Nanjing ?
@@86thrasher I live in the Philippines, and the european front was covered more than the asian front besides my countrys occupation. Its sad that the asian front is under represented in history besides the bombings in Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Germany is still being blamed and bullied for what they did in World War II, despite the fact that they are trying to make up for it. Meanwhile Japan has famously committed hundreds of war crimes and almost all of the world has seemed to forgive them even though they've never gave out an apology
Blamed and bullied? Not really
@@thereformist8718 I’d say they are bullied, albeit indirectly with all the Nazi jokes made.
@@thereformist8718 What comes to mind when he think of Hitler? Germans.
Same with america
@@yhb4682 Most people think germans. But for me national socialism.
At one point, a group of Taiwanese natives showed up at a shrine built for soldiers who died fighting for the emperor in order to ask that their ancestors be erased from it. It is believed that the souls of the names written in the shrine are enshrined there as hero spirits, and the shrine happened to include many WW2 Japanese soldiers, including some Formosans who were paid to join Japan. When the Taiwanese showed up to ask for their ancestors' names be removed, hordes of Japanese people stepped in to stop them. They surrounded the bus they were in, refusing them entry to the shrine and harassing them.
Be warned. Japanese nationalism for the empire is so strong that will steal your soul if you work for them.
I took a class in college in NY about Japan and my professor, a Japanese, was trying to downplay Japan's crimes and even called some of the stories "imaginations" I had to drop that class. What I learned from her though is that Japan is waiting for all the "comfort women" to die off so they wouldn't have anyone to apologize to, essentially.
@@kihs-jc9xk your sentences are so uncohesive no one can understand them. I don't even know what you are trying to point out. if you want to argue with an english speaker please figure out english first.
@@avairye3487 I think they're just trolling, they've replied to almost every comment I've clicked into. I think we all can just ignore them.
@@elishaso lmao i noticed that too. either that or theyre some japanese supremacist.
You should report that professor too. That kind of behaviour is unacceptable.
@@avairye3487 if your evidence is so real, why don't you show it to everyone, huh? Instead writing here, claiming it's REAL
There's a saying in Indonesia :
It is much better to be colonized by the Dutch for 350 years. Than being occupied by Japan in 2.5 years.
@@mgushdri599 I am amazed by your auto-likes
@@mgushdri599 .
Uh oh did that make the japanazi bot mad😢😢😢
@@mgushdri599 .
@@mgushdri599 .
@@mgushdri599 .
Germany: We're paying the victims.
Japan: We're playing the victims.
@@antitotalitariancommunistc5941 "the crimes of the Japanese are totally justified because I don't like China and because I love anime" your argument summed
@@antitotalitariancommunistc5941 Japanese apologist spotted
@@antitotalitariancommunistc5941 bot Reported
@@antitotalitariancommunistc5941 lol cope
@@antitotalitariancommunistc5941 tf are you even saying, sounds like you got that shitty paragraph out of google translator
I'm just learning about this now and it gets me so emotional.... this was a genocide.
Not only that.... BUT THE JAPANESE DENIED IT EVEN HAPPENED. MULTIPLE TIMES.
Germany: *hates Hitler*
Italy: *hates Mussolini*
Japan: *watches anime and forgets history*
@@hypocritekiller2377 Damn a lot of words, man. 🤣
@@hypocritekiller2377 Why can't you Japanese deny or try to refute with your Japanese other real historical evidences or facts for all my real historical evidences and facts in front of many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section? Or do you Japanese have any serious problems for not being able to deny or refute for my all real historical evidences or facts in front of many intelligent and sane viewers ?
I can deny or try to disprove for all your Japanese baseless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in front of all viewers of many nations on this comment section.
There are so many groundless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in the historic education especially in japanese ult right and corrupt japanese government. They believe them till their deaths.
did you like it japanese ult right I use your own spell against you
@@antitotalitariancommunistc5941 Why can't you Japanese deny or try to refute with your Japanese other real historical evidences or facts for all my real historical evidences and facts in front of many more well and highly educated viewers of many nations on this comment section? Or do you Japanese have any serious problems for not being able to deny or refute for my all real historical evidences or facts in front of many intelligent and sane viewers ?
I can deny or try to disprove for all your Japanese baseless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in front of all viewers of many nations on this comment section.
There are so many groundless, fake and fabricated fictions and propagandas in the historic education especially in japanese ult right and corrupt japanese government. They believe them till their deaths.
did you like it japanese ult right I use your own spell against you
@@hypocritekiller2377 Your name fits you perfectly
@@antitotalitariancommunistc5941 So you guys believe korea, japan and china are the only asian countries asians who know what the japanese did and your belief of korean chinese propaganda to make the japanese look bad laugh in your direction
Japan: *has a massive history of cruelty and war crime*
Denier: *B-b-but they made Naruto.*
Sweet Tea
Some intelligent viewers put comment of real historical evidence as below.
I hope Communist Han, the Korean and the Libtard/Dupes in the world will be able to understand a real historical fact logically and rationally someday in future.
From The New York Times March 2006
Communist China's accounting of the so called doubtful Nanjing incident has been consistently propagandized by politics.
During the war in 1937 Nanjing was the capital of the Chinese Nationalist government of Chiang Kai-shek, which mounted a brief investigation after the Japanese defeat in 1945. From the time of the Communist takeover in 1949 until the early 1980's there was no any claim at all to Japan from Communist China regarding so called Nanjing incident in Dec. 1937.
Furthermore very curious and mysterious still, there is no record to show that Mao Zedong ,who died in 1976, ever spoke publicly about it. Other Communist China's leaders didn't mention about the so called Nanjing incident at all too. Save for a brief mention in a 1960 middle school textbook that there was a Nanjing battle between Japan's Imperial Army and Chiang Kai-shek, the Nanjing Massacre was not featured in even Chinese textbooks until the early 1980.It's well known scarcely trained Chinese conscripts stripped off their military uniforms and escaped into the Safety Zone in Nanking with some weapons. Before entering into the Safety Zone some of those Chinese conscripts killed and raped some Han residents of Nanjing to get their clothes.
In recent decades, partly in response to Japan, Beijing has itself looked toward nationalism as a spur to unity and a way to quell social troubles, especially in light of Marxism's fading relevance. "It was in the last 20 years that we found it essential to intensify our PROPANGANDA, to make sure that our people remember this better," said Zhang Lianhong in 2006,a historian at Nanjing University.
@@chinaspeoplesliberationarm7479
"China Hails a Good Nazi and Makes Japan Take Notice"
NANJING, China - From the outside it does not look like much: the shell of a two-story brick building with scaffolding running up its sides and, on a drizzly winter day, a pair of construction workers kicking around in a courtyard littered with building materials.
But 69 years ago the courtyard was filled with hundreds of Chinese seeking refuge from Japanese troops who were rampaging through the city, then China's capital. The invaders subjected Nanjing to a six-week reign of terror, killing large numbers of Chinese soldiers who had thrown down their weapons and murdering and raping thousands of civilians.
The property was the home of John Rabe, a Nazi Party member and employee of Siemens. In addition to sheltering people in his own compound, Mr. Rabe led a score of other foreigners in the city to form an international safety zone that shielded more than 200,000 Chinese from the Japanese.
Despite his heroism, Rabe was for decades all but forgotten here. Even the location of his house, today all but swallowed up by the sprawling campus of Nanjing University, was unknown.
But now, amid a political and intellectual cold war with Japan that revolves to a great extent around the history of China's conquest by its neighbor, this country is seizing on the memory of a man often called "the Good Nazi," and even China's Oskar Schindler.
Since the publication of Mr. Rabe's diary in 1997, his story has become a central theme in narratives of the Nanjing Massacre, much as the massacre story itself has become an important pillar in China's emerging new nationalism. In addition to the Rabe museum there is a new, minutely detailed 28-volume history of the massacre, and academics are rethinking the way the episode is taught in schools.
Why this sudden interest in an event that took place nearly 70 years ago? Historians cite two reasons: to refute Japanese denials and to encourage patriotism among Chinese youth.
"The Japanese right is becoming stronger and stronger, and they have denied causing the war in Asia," said Zhang Xianwen, the editor of the recently published history and director of the Center for the History of Republican China at Nanjing University. "We have decided to fight back and force Japan to admit its responsibility."
Yet seven decades after the event there is still serious academic dispute, even over something so fundamental as the death toll. Estimates range from a few tens of thousands to more than 300,000, the official Chinese number that is literally set in concrete above the entranceway to the expansive Nanjing Massacre memorial here.
China is by no means alone in this. In Japan, denial of the killings -- once restricted to the far-right fringe -- has entered the mainstream as the country's politics have shifted rightward. Today, in the face of the best evidence, many Japanese textbooks minimize the event, playing down suggestions of Japanese atrocities.
Experts say the fact that there were mass killings is beyond any reasonable dispute. "It was not until we toured the city that we learned the extent of the destruction," Mr. Rabe wrote on Dec. 13, 1937, just a day after Japan took control of the city. "The bodies of the civilians that I examined had bullet holes in their backs. These people had presumably been fleeing and were shot from behind."
His account is backed up by the few remaining survivors from his courtyard, like Mu Xifu and Li Shizhen, who fled there for shelter and married each other years later. "The Japanese were killing people and raping people," said Mr. Mu, who is 83. "You could see dead bodies in the river and all over the road."
But official records tend to be scarce or unreliable. During the war Japan rigorously counted its own dead but paid little attention to Chinese casualties. The defeated Japanese military also took care to burn its records in the city.
China's accounting of the incident has been consistently marred by politics.
During the war Nanjing was the capital of the Chinese Nationalist government of Chiang Kai-shek, which mounted a brief investigation after the Japanese defeat in 1945. From the time of the Communist takeover in 1949 until the early 1980's, when disputes over Japanese textbooks first arose, Chinese experts say there was no serious study of the massacre.
More curious still, there is no record to show that Mao, who died in 1976, ever spoke publicly about it. Save for a brief mention in a 1960 middle school textbook, the Nanjing Massacre was not featured in Chinese textbooks until the early 1980's. As recently as the early 1990's, historians and others who wanted to organize conferences about the event were barred from doing so.
The decades of silence were owing in part to the government's unwillingness to recognize the resistance that China's Nationalist armies put up against the Japanese. Although recently the Nationalists' role has been acknowledged more, official histories of the war have always credited Mao's Communist armies with defeating Japan.
There was also a deep sense of humiliation surrounding the fall of the city, in which scarcely trained Chinese conscripts stripped off their uniforms and fled the invading Japanese. "It is a natural Chinese character to be ashamed to speak of being raped, about being massacred while hardly resisting," said Shao Tzuping, a founder of the Alliance in Memory of the Nanjing Massacre, a private association.
In recent decades, partly in response to Japan, Beijing has itself looked toward nationalism as a spur to unity and a way to quell social troubles, especially in light of Marxism's fading relevance. "It was in the last 20 years, with the Japanese denials, that we found it essential to intensify our propaganda, to make sure that our people remember this better," said Zhang Lianhong, a historian at Nanjing University.
Such efforts mirror those of Japan's new rightists, who say their aim is to bring an end to what they call a masochistic style of teaching history and make young people feel proud to be Japanese.
"Both the Japanese and the Chinese have clung to a sense of victimhood: the Chinese for what happened during the war, the Japanese for what happened after," said David Askew, a professor of law at Ritsumeikan University in Japan. "They are not so much interested in Nanjing as their country's place in the world."
LETTER FROM CHINA Correction: March 20, 2006, Monday The Letter From China article on Wednesday, about China's new effort to educate citizens about the Nanjing Massacre of 1937, in which invading Japanese soldiers killed many thousands of Chinese, misstated the affiliation of Zhang Lianhong, a historian who said the campaign was partly a response to Japan's denials of wartime atrocities. He is at Nanjing Normal University, not Nanjing University.
This article is for those who do not have access to NY Times.
Me dan risa los que se ponen a pelear de quien es el villano como si la historia fuera una pelicula, como si no fueramos el resultado de la entropía, como si no fueramos criaturas disipativas de desequilibrio térmico.
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Some intelligent viewers put their comments as below for your just reference.
Communist China's accounting of the so called doubtful Nanjing incident has been consistently propagandized by politics.
During the war in 1937 Nanjing was the capital of the Chinese Nationalist government of Chiang Kai-shek, which mounted a brief investigation after the Japanese defeat in 1945. From the time of the Communist takeover in 1949 until the early 1980's there was no any claim at all to Japan from Communist China regarding so called Nanjing incident in Dec. 1937.
Furthermore very curious and mysterious still, there is no record to show that Mao Zedong ,who died in 1976, ever spoke publicly about it. Other Communist China's leaders didn't mention about the so called Nanjing incident at all too. Save for a brief mention in a 1960 middle school textbook that there was a Nanjing battle between Japan's Imperial Army and Chiang Kai-shek, the Nanjing Massacre was not featured in even Chinese textbooks until the early 1980.It's well known scarcely trained Chinese conscripts stripped off their military uniforms and escaped into the Safety Zone in Nanking with some weapons. Before entering into the Safety Zone some of those Chinese conscripts killed and raped some Han residents of Nanjing to get their clothes.
In recent decades, partly in response to Japan, Beijing has itself looked toward nationalism as a spur to unity and a way to quell social troubles, especially in light of Marxism's fading relevance. "It was in the last 20 years that we found it essential to intensify our PROPANGANDA, to make sure that our people remember this better," said Zhang Lianhong in 2006,a historian at Nanjing University.
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My comment:
Now in Japan there are about 1.2 million Chinese( immigrants, refugees, students, scholars, workers etc.)of many different ages and different regions of Communist Chia. All Chinese more than about 50 years old testify and confess publicly on TV, Radio and Newspaper, magazine etc. they haven't seen or were educated the so called fake and fabricated Nanking massacre of Japan's Imperial Army at all with any school text book at any school in the Chinese continent before early 1980s as a Chinese scholar Zhang Lianhong stated.
Ironically saying how many FAKE so called Chinese witnesses are there now in present Communist China? Only 1, 5 or 10 thousands ?
@@plusxz821 como?
Lemme tell you something, as a Korean.
Japan did apologise and that's where some people (usually Japanese and pro-Japans) get their comforts from.
Oh but there's always that however.
However, their action after the apology is what renders their apology into a blank one.
They constantly say things like, "Forced to work does not mean forced labour" or "we are the victims" or "we tried to protect East Asia from the west" or "we developed you guys" or "Sex slavery did not exist" and so on.
It's like a criminal who killed your entire family, saying sorry in front of you but talks about how your family deserved to be killed, at your back.
Their apologies and actions need to match in order for us and the still alive victims to forgive.
They never show that effort and frankly, they never will as long as the Japanese people don't give a shit about politics.
Your comment is valid. Please ignore the bots. They are a shame to Japan. Please recognize that there are many different people in Japan. Most people view people with such kind of extreme nationalist views as shallow and pitiful. I am sorry for the trauma that befell on all the victims under imperial Japan.
....... This is just sad. Are you going to say that Americans are evil because they have human trafficking? Look, the Japanese did more damage then they did good.
Agreed. I hope they show how they're sorry and try to make up for it one day.
@@koreankisaeng7293 Jesus Christ, it's this guy again.
The people who unashamedly give a shit about politics in Japan are the right wing nationalists who shout loudly. There are left wingers who also care, but don’t shout as loudly and aren’t tolerated like the right are.
This provides a cover for right wing politicians to claim they are standing up for Japan - rather than actually damaging Japan’s interests by continuing to visit Yasukuni shrine, etc.
Korea and Taiwan have more vibrant democracies than Japan - the weak state of democratic debate in Japan does the country no favours.
As a Chinese, we been told never forgive and forget what Japanese did in Nanking, we don’t have the right to forget them because we are not those victims, and Japanese are still denying everything, even though there are so many evidence. We don’t forgive doesn’t mean we are closefisted, just means we will never let this happen in our country again!
You don't even know that the Chinese Communist Party is conducting anti-Japanese education and teaching Chinese people a big lie about history.
Japan's historical revisionism reminds me of those school bullies who played victim when the kids they picked on fought back.
Dan Kirslis
3) A book published in USA ,Korea and Japan titled " So Far from the Bamboo Grove" written by Ms. Yoko Kawashima Watkins in 1986 proved so many refugees of Japanese women from the northern part of the Korean península and Manchuria to Japan were raped by northern Korean men after the end of WW2 . The Soviet Union's soldiers raped many Japanese women too, but the worst cases were by Korean men in the northern part of the Korean peninsula being supported by the Communist Soviet Union.
4) One of Allied Forces of Communist Soviet soldiers massacred and raped 400 thousands Japanese citizens , wome and children in Machuria even after the WW2 in August 1945.
5)
D-Day GIs 'raped and killed their French allies while US army generals turned a blind eye'
Dan Kirslis 6) American woman in USA during the WW2 was gifted a Japanese soldier's sculp from her American boyfriend soldier who were fighting against Japan's Imperial Army in the Pacific Ocean. American soldiers killed many Japanese soldiers and boiled their sculps in hot water to remove their hairs from sculps and sent them to their girlfriends in USA.
And also many American and Australian soldiers took off Japanese soldiers' gold teeth , notebooks, flags, Japanese swards etc. from dead bodies of Japanese soldiers and sold them after returning back to USA and Australia.
But no any Japanese soldiers did such shameful and brutal actions in any battle fields.
Dan Kirslis 7)
General MacArthur noticed at last what the WW2 with Japan was after the Korean War. But it was too late. Don't you know this statement of Douglas MacArthur as below ? Douglas MacArthur stated at the USA Congress Japan could not help starting the war against USA. USA mainly had the its responsibility.
- p.170、General Macarthur Speeches & Reports: 1908-1964
Strategy Against Japan In World War II 3rd/May, 1951
Senator Hickenlooper.
Question No. 5:
Isn't your proposal for sea and air blockade of Red China the same strategy by which Americans achieved victory over the Japanese in the Pacific?
General MacArthur.
Yes, sir.
In the Pacific we by-passed them. We closed in.・・・
There is practically nothing indigenous to Japan except the silkworm. They lack cotton, they lack wool, they lack petroleum products, they lack tin, they lack rubber, they lack great many other things, all of which was in the Asiatic basin.They feared that if those supplies were cut off, there would be 10 to 12 million people unoccupied in Japan.
THEIR PURPOSE, THEREFORE IN GOING TO WAR WAS LARGELY DICTATED BY SECURITY.
The raw materials -- those countries which furnished raw materials for their manufacture -- such countries as Malaya, Indonesia, the Philippines, and so on -- they, with the advantage of preparedness and surprise, seized all those bases, and their general strategic concept was to hold those outlying bastions, the islands of the Pacific, so that we would bleed ourselves white in trying to reconquer them, and that the losses would be so tremendous that we would ultimately acquiesce in a treaty which would allow them to control the basic products of the places they had captured.In meeting that, we evolved an entirely new strategy. They held certain bastion points, and what we did was to evade those points, and go around them.
We came in behind them, and we crept up and crept up, and crept up, always approaching the lanes of communication which led from those countries, conquered countries, to Japan.
Douglas MacArthur (GHQ Commander-in-Chief)
" Their purpose, therefore in going to
war was laragely dictated by security. In the past 100 years, the biggest political
mistake U.S. had committed was that by the defeat of Japan, we made the communist
most powerful in China. "
Dan Kirslis 8) Have you ever read all documents of the Tokyo Tribunal (The International Military Tribunal for the Far East) from 1946 till 1948 ? If you've not yet read and surveyed all documents of the Tokyo Tribunal you are not qualified to mention about the so called FAKE Nanking incident matter. An American priest John Gillespie Magee was in Nanking since the beginning of the battle and stayed in Nanking at the last at the safety zone with other Chinese refugees. He managed everything in the safety zone and had all responsibilities for Chinese refugees negotiating with the Japan's Imperial Army. He could walk everywhere in Nanking and witnessed everything. He testified at the Tokyo Tribunal he witnessed by himself only one incident of murder by robber and one attempted rape incident. I don't write in details, so read those documents by yourself. It's sure there were so many mere rumors, lies and demagogies in Nanking just after the end of battle. The testimony of John G. Magee proves so called FAKE Nanking massacre. Fake story of so called FAKE Nanking massacre is perfectly a lie, fabrication and political propaganda made by Fascist Communist China especially strongly propagandized since 1980s, not 1940s 1950s 1960s 1970s. Now everyone can check the lie of Communist China on internet.
The human beings on this planet remember well USA dropped completely experimental 2 kinds of atomic bombs ( Uranium & Plutonium on purpose) 2 times on Japanese civilians including women, students , children and elderly people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki melting and seriously injuring 500 thousands Japanese and Korean-Japanese civilians in a few minutes in August 1945.
As a Japanese person; yeah, this is an issue here. It’s pretty disgusting. My parents have been brainwashed too.
Edit: I didn’t expect this comment to get so much traction, but I want to add that I kind of misrepresented my parents because I didn’t feel like elaborating. I’m not exactly sure what they believe for sure. But my mother sure claimed once that she was taught this stuff, but later said she wasn’t and most of what she knows is from “her own research”. They seem to have come to respect me as the one person in the family who is probably the most likely to know her history, so I could maybe be able to convince them someday, since fortunately they’re definitely not hardline racists or imperialists. I hope, because I respect them so much. But it’s just so tiring just thinking of having to talk about this.
I think they represent the mindset many Japanese people have well, in that they don’t have the full picture, and as such all the complaints from, say, the Korean government (and I don’t condone their actions either, because at times I get the impression they’re using the trauma of the victims to gain political points) really puts them off. It really shows why proper education with all the context included is important. It’s sad how little time WWII is given in history class, or so it seems since I went to an international school due to my long time overseas. Maybe that fact might invalidate my opinion to some, but I think it gives me a more objective perspective on this. I love my country, I just wish that the uneducated people here didn’t make me feel ashamed to. And all the apologies in the world mean nothing if nothing is done to make people remember why the apologies are happening.
We’ve been pretty harmless to other countries for most of our history, we can be proud enough of the rest of the thousands of years of it to acknowledge the Pacific War as one of our darkest hours, for both the colonies *and* the Japanese people themselves, because that war destroyed our country, quite literally.
I don’t really feel like engaging with this thread much anymore, but if you want to I can’t stop you I guess.
Tell them to stop following 'em.
kih48s71 our education system almost straight up skips world war 2 lol
爪 There's no perfect education system in any nation in the world and the education at schools in any nation are merely very basic and not all. It depends on the intelligence of people of each nation.
kih48s71 Well I was raised in the states for 13 years, so I have a different POV from the mainstream, but yeah I am very much pureblood Japanese. But while I can’t say for sure, I have the feeling that they buy into the “comfort women are lying” and “Japan brought civilization to Korea” and other such propaganda.
I do hope I get to convince them someday, I’m just kind of afraid to bring it up because I don’t want the conformation that my parents 100% believe this shit. But since I feel they’ve come to understand me as the closest thing to a historian in the family lately, maybe I might be able to eventually.
Especially bad since my dad employs a Zainichi Korean, or at least someone who is of Korean descent.
Thank you for understanding korean's sadness. Distorded history is from who occur war in japan. They didn't be purnished and make people understand wrong information by using wrong education.
"Unless your a diehard fan, you can't even name it"
*Shows world at war*
Now I just feel old... This game was insanely popular when I was a kid.
Yeah man Nazi Zombies was my shit.
Same.
I was a teenager.
Im pretty sure that was meant as a joke.
Think you feel old? I was a high school senior when that game was launched.
One example of Japan being the bad guys: in Avatar, the fire nation is meant as an allegory for imperial japan. So it’s not literally Japan being the bad guys, but pretty close
Germany after WW2: Deeply apologizes for every cruel thing they have done
Japan after WW2: “Hey what happened?”
@@robertschoukh2941
" Japan committed massive rape and massacre....but Germany tho"
"He was like a nazi batman, but his only super power was the swastika armband" is my favorite quote ever
There's almost an irony of this video when you compare Japan to the Nazis and see just how unwilling the Nazis were to commit actual war crimes yet how much more they're demonized.
Pretty sure there was no confusion there. Which war crimes? Maybe you're confused instead?
@@theplaybunnyarcade3375 bruh what
There's a saying in Japan, " if you tell a lie 100 times, it becomes truth." To this day, Japan's government officials visit Yasukuni Shrine where they keep the war criminals mortuary tablets and worship as their gods!
It’s just how Shintoism works, it’s bizarre but it’s just how it is
There is no such proverb in Japan.
I think it was the words of Nazi Germany.
@@koreanprostituteswithusagi2379
DEEZ NUTS
We can know the real Japanese
Wasn't that a Hitler quote?
I read "The Rape of Nanking" and was horrified. I had no clue just how bad it was.
You know it's bad when the Nazis were repulsed.
I'm Korean and my grandparents absolutely HATE Japan with a passion. They always talk shit about then and claim that all Japense has a special place in hell. I just thought they were being racist because even here in the U.S. Japanese war crimes is pretty supressed in the history books. They had to personally tell me that during the Japnese colonization my Grandmother's mother was a comfort woman who was murdered after being raped for God knows how long. And my grandfather was forced into slave labor since childhood and he lost 4 out 5 of his siblings from the work condition as well almost dying himself. While I don't personally have a vendetta against the Japanese I totally don't hold it against my grandparents for holding their grudge, especially when Japan is constantly denying all the suffering they endured
Sorry to hear that bro
That's really rough
I could totally see why they hate the Japanese, I'm surprised they're not paying the consequences like Germany did, but now karma struck back because Japan isn't doing hot now with their debt and depression epidemic
@@bdsmgaming3627 Devine karma
I am from china and my great grandparents lived in the country and were fairly untouched. When I learnt about this through the internet, I was disgusted, Especially about the comfort women. I also saw it on live tv on youtube and thought it was just propaganda bs.
People who are defending Japan action are showing their true color in the comment section
Gabriel Petkov Sorry, I can' agree with your comment at all !!! As far as I studied the world history with many and only real historical facts and evidences in the world for some years and as one of Koreans educated out of the Korean peninsula you seem to be a Korean too and seem to try to propgandise Korean own particular, strange and distorted insistence that noone in the world admits in my opinion.
T Park Then prove it
Gabriel Petkov EXACTLY. They can’t even understand what they’re saying. They don’t know what the letter “A,” inside a letter “O,” represents in terms of my stance on Governments. They also hilariously assume my nationality, which always helps in establishing their credibility
And the most hilarious (sad) about these deniers is they assumed you are either a Chinese or Korean nationality when many who follow this channel are Americans since it is a channel filled mostly about American issues.
@@ahmedxhjiwan5734 RUclips was banned in China. No one here is from Communist China. Everyone outside Japan acknowledge Japan committed lots of war atrocities during WW2.
Germany: Sad because of their actions
Japan: Sad because they lost
Wuffious Maximus
Germany : We should no cooperate with crazy Hitler.
Allied Forces: We lost all colonized regions in the world.
Japan: We are happy to see so many colonized regions could acquire independences.
@@davidmacarthur5456 not the Holocaust but they had horrific atrocities of their own. Ever heard of the rape of Nanking?
@@davidmacarthur5456 Not in the same scale, but Japan had mass murderer camps created to kill koreans during the korean colonization. And don't let me start talking about the Nankin massacre in China.
@@davidmacarthur5456
DEEZ NUTS
Dude, japanese imperial spambot is all over the comment sections. It's everywhere in this video comment section
I was on the verge of tears watching this, the most tragic event in our nation's history and an atrocity that cannot be forgotten in human history.
寒风青枝
1)
Many well and very highly educated people in the world already know well about many fake, fabricated and groundless propaganda videos and fictions etc. by Communist China and Chinese eternal subsidiary nations of 2 Koreas ( South & North).
This is the real historic Nanking Massacre by the Han race each other between Communist Mao Zedong and
Chiang Kai-shek of KMT even in the Sino-Japan War and in/after the WW2 till 1949.
You can loot at that big stone monument of the Nanking Massacre with your own eyes by the Han race each other built by Mao Zedong in Nanking if you visit Nanking.
寒风青枝
2)
In 1927: Chinese Nationalist Party's Army (China KMT) entered in to Nanking and killed .raped and pillaged from Nanking residents. Furthermore 100 thousands Communist Chinese were massacred by KMT at the Rain Flower Terrace(Yuhuatai(雨花台)Martyr's Cemetery(雨花台烈士陵园) in Nanking.(Mao Zedong said and wrote on the monument 300 thousands Communist Chinese were massacred by KMT -- 国民党政府在雨花台曽経屠殺了三十万共産党烈士 --)But very strangely although Communist China have never criticized and blamed the top leader of KMT(People's Republic of China, now Taiwan)when they met each other there for several times, Communist China keep blaming and blaming the Japanese only with fake and fabricated lies and propagandas since 1980s, has never blamed in 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. No political leader of Communist China has never mentioned about the so called Fake Nanking massacre at all till 1980s.Because tehere was no so called Nanking massacre, but was only heavy Nanking battles between Japanese soldiers and poor soldiers of Chiang Kai-Shek who were abandoned by Chiang Kai-shek.
@@globalexplorerexii5771 stop spamming bruh
@@jackzhang5595
Seeing is believing !!!
Go to Nanking soon and look at that big stone monument and script with your own eyes !!!
@@jackzhang5595 hehe someone made bots cause japan good china bad
Thanks for this, my mom is really diving head first into that historical revisionism recently and this gives me a better grasp of the events
You went easy on this video. You definitely could have spoken about the "experiments".
I'm well aware so you can keep your novel to yourself. While those are egregious as well maybe even worse because it was performed on citizens. This is the current topic. Every country has bood on their hands. Instead of your "whataboutism" in my comment section of which you added no relevant discussion why don't you suggest that the channel speaks on these issues as well 🤔
@@andorokhtuon8407 By the way you mentioned all U.S. atrocities (you missed the trail of tears just to let you know).However, what makes you think I'm in the U.S.?
experiments? link plz very curios
@@andorokhtuon8407 Someone (@ Ashley) is stating that an atrocity took place and you bring up irrelevant incidents. Does that somehow excuse what Japan did?
Gross.
@@Swift-mr5zi NO, DO NOT LOOK INTO UNIT 731, that shit will make you lose faith in humanity
I recently spent a year living in Korea. In high school I remember history classes focusing a lot on Germany and not so much the events that occurred in Asia. While living in Korea I spent a lot of time visiting museums and memorials. I was absolutely fascinated about just how much information is boiled down in the U.S. I was shocked reading about the horrors during the Japanese occupation of Korea. Not only were the Korean people tortured and Raped but they were forced to attend Japanese schools, punished for speaking or writing in Korean instead of Japanese, their religious symbols and places were destroyed and replaced with japanese theme parks, all their resources were shipped back to mainland Japan while Korean people starved and in some places were forced to live in the streets. The worst part is that the Korean people were living this way for almost 50 years. The occupation started around 1910... Most people don't realize how long the Koreans were suffering under Japanese occupation.
Good explainaion
@@kasfbull can u give me the link please?
An American dipomat was almost assacinated very recently in South Korea,. Are South and North Korea sane nations ?
Korean history books are total fairy tales and have been deemed most inaccurate compared to japanese by even stanford.
Did you take goverment & north korea propaganda museum as historical facts or the stone sculptures depicting tortures as if it's real?
@@immapilot9338 awww so funny. Still, Japanese defend themselves and deny their past.
This is why I get so angry when someone who isn't asian discovers anime and then starts defending Japan at all costs, saying america was horrible for dropping the a-bombs. They don't even know the history
I relate to this so much
Same
They treat japan like a perfect country and god, both in the past and the present
Actually the atomic bombs weren't necessary in WW2. By 1945, Japanese high command wanted to surrender on their terms to avoid ending up having terrible surrender terms. They were running out of resources and were under an economic blockade. The reason kamikaze was used as a method and why the Japanese fought fiercely was so they could have agreeable surrender terms. Meanwhile, the Soviets were planning to invade Manchuria in August, and as the USA didn't want the Soviets to get on the negotiation table, the already willing to surrender Japan lost 2 cities full of tens of thousands of victims. Afterwards, generals criticised Harry Truman who gave the go ahead for this, stating that Japan was going to surrender anyways and that the bombings weren't necessary, chief among these General Eisenhower. The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is politics and humans at their lowest. It was not necessary to win the war against Japan.
@@chinggiskhan6678 That's bullshit my man and you know it. There's a reason why the emperor overrode the military junta after the second bomb was dropped.
@@camronyearout1158 The military junta was going to surrender anyways, and Emporer Hirohito was not surrendering because some people died. Hirohito worked directly with the military junta. They were going to surrender anyways, and had decided to surrender not because of some bombs being dropped but because they couldn't continue the war because they had only a few days worth of resources. The reason Japan surrendered was because they got favourable enough terms. Japan claimed it would only surrender if the USA let Hirohito keep his position, and the USA agreed to these terms of surrender. Japan hoped to get better terms, but they were running out of resources and this was the best they could get away with.
It seems some Japanese artists have tried to portray a fair depiction of their country's war crimes in China. I haven't seen it yet (because it is almost 10 hours long) but in this vein, Kobayashi's film trilogy "The Human Condition" is highly regarded and looks pretty disturbing.
As a Chinese man, thank you. We Chinese have our sins to pay for as well, but Japan shouldn't get a free pass.
are you mainland china or taiwan?
@@aquafishsoup
Smh...smh X2
WTF. Under the difference in War crimes and domestic problems(which literally happen in all most all countries)
The way the Han Chinese have treated the Muslim and Buddhist minorities in the West, among other things, is one of the worst of those sins.
@@User31129
Dont forget the Christians, the Kazakhs, the Mongols, the Yugurs and all non-communist-Chinese people who China tries to wipe out.
I feel The Goreyo people will always hope to have a friend East of Anshan. Down with Japans Amnesty pass.
Never thought I'd hear "Nazi Batman"
@@СэрВортон Fledermausmann!
@@javamoul2368 Sounds bad. Nazi Batman sounds better. We had Soviet Batman after all, in the comics where Superman was the son of Stalin.
@@СэрВортон You have to value our language!
@@javamoul2368 Nah, that sounds terrible. Just as bad, as Chelovek Letuchaya Mish instead of Batman
Ben Affleck?
thank you for this video! as a Taiwanese it disgusts me that the Japanese government refuses to apologize or even acknowledge that they forced Taiwanese women into the roles of comfort women. and for some reason people don't understand why I'm not a big fan of Japan....
Anti-Fascist Communist China some Taiwanese people do not consider themselves Chinese. Just how like some Hong Kongers don’t consider themselves Chinese.
@Anti-Fascist Communist China
A your argument doesn’t really make sense. U say that just because the Nationalists of China were evil (which hey were) makes Japan guiltless and renders the role of comfort women and other atrocities as ok or non existent?
B why r u going around trolling people about these horrifying crimes buried and denied by the Japanese?
but where is taiwan?part of Africa?
Dude you maybe Taiwanese but I don’t think people from back then would identify as Taiwanese lol
皇甫鹤 colony of US of A.
My grandfather fought in Japan during WWII. Boots on the ground combat. The stories he told about it are in alignment with what is described in this video.
Travelling in Asia makes you realize this is only a secret in the Western World. I remember visiting a monastery in Philippines and suddenly when coming to the WW2 panel: "oh and the Japanese soldiers arrived and tortured and killed all 97 monks. Classic Japanese lol."
Also, many Chinese movies mention such episodes. "The Red Sorghum" is a great example (and a great movie btw!)
Jérémy Quentin
Oh! I seel. You special Philippine ignoramus adore the colonial days by Spain and USA, don't you ? !
You are a Han- Phlippine , aren't you ? !
Jérémy Quentin
Read my comments to the below viewer " Kirk Gatchalian
" and try to reply for my questions and doubts logically, reasonably and rationally in front of many more intelligent viewers of many nations on this comment section than you .
@dAmE dA nE
Because ordinary genuine local Philippine people and your president love Japan/the Japanese so much more than the Han race from Communist China and 2 Koreas ( South & North ).
For meI actually adore the colonial days of Spain and the US. Spain shaped our history and culture and the US made our country great and helped us defend against the japanes
@@jellyfishi_ tbf we had our own problems to deal with since the taal is erupting Again
COD 5 is seriously underrated. The opening scene in Japan just shows how cruel they really were. I fucking love that game
So do I man
@Snake Plisken wtf
7-8,000,000 civilians killed in experiments or just for shits and giggles is something that only war fever will do
It’s scary how effectively axis civilians were swept up by this hype, really shows how weak we humans really are.
Yeah man I was in middle school when I played it and that clip in the beginning made me learn about what they did in Asia. My school never taught me that!
which one is COD 5?
You missed the 731 Japan troop that did chemical test and warfare on Chinese and Korean people!
I'm disgusted to see the Japanese commentary. It is certain that people do not know shame or reflection.
You got bombarded by a crazy in the replies.
@@quietbee6689
The fact that he/she wrote such pernicious garbage, ONLY SOLIDIFY + CONFIRM that THEY PERPETRATED THOSE ATROCITIES.
@@quietbee6689
The crazy wrote, "Your private and individual feeling or emotions has no meaning."
That IS EXACTLY HOW THEY VIEWED ALL OF THEIR VICTIMS
UNSIEJDYEODJIU IS A BOT DON'T RESPOND TO HIM I'VE SEEN THE STUFF HE COMMENTED POSTED TWO DIFFERENT TIMES BY DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS HE IS A BOT DON'T LISTEN TO HIM
I have visited Hiroshima and the museum at the site. If you didn’t know better, you would think that the Japanese were just minding their own business that day when an atomic bomb was dropped out of nowhere
_A society that cannot confront the demons of its past is a society bound to be haunted by them._
- Kraut (in _The Turkish Century_ )
If only ataturk lived to ww2
I almost believe he could single handedly annex the axis powers.
Almost.
Kraut is a huge racist and his Historiography is laughable.
@@Xray330 how is he racist❓
@@shimnakt955 he might be talking about his earlier videos
When Japan colonized Indonesia for only 3 years 5 months, what they did was more cruel than when Indonesia was colonized by the Dutch who colonized Indonesia for 350 years.
@@anti-fascistcommunistchina241 Go pleasure yourself on Abe's butt picture, troll.
Ok I am Japanese. I acknowledged you hate Japan although Japanese imperial army sacrificed their lives for Indonesian independence. And Japan has been giving huge support do develop Indonesia. Japan should stop giving Japanese tax payers blood money to countries which hate Japan and start creating closer connection with countries which are good for Japan like India , Taiwan and so on. Good Bye Indonesia. Keep suking up CCP.
@@anti-fascistcommunistchina241 sacrifice my ass
@@keikotunoda426 lol a big big lie Japanese will not give the Indonesian people they're independent
and also if the colonized country did not develop, what would the colonizers get?
@Arbeit Macht frei i won't
i don't care either
It disheartens me whenever I have conversations with people who don't know or don't want to know the extent of how far the Asian side of World War II went. You have no idea how much this video means to me and my culture. Thank you.
One of the weirdest 'primary sources' on what happened to POWs taken by the Japanese is the St Trinian's comics by Ronald Searle. He started making them as a coping strategy for what happened to him whilst a POW in the Pacific, re-imagining his experiences in the more innocent and familiar setting of an English boarding school. Sometimes you read through them and it's like, yeah this is funny, teenage girls smoking pot, teenage girls committing crime, teenage girls being tortured and whipped by their teachers -
Yeah, that last one is the kind directly inspired by his experiences. It's very surreal and brutal. The final cartoon has the girls blowing up the school in a 'nuclear accident'.
I made a presentation in the Japanese University about this, and my Japanese classmates gave the comments saying u shouldn’t show us these creepy photos. I was gutted again..
@@kaorin2356 "all photos are fake"
All photos are real. And, stop using your alt accounts.
@@kaorin2356
It's probably your hope of wanting to win a fake.
Dude, your classmates are creepy af
Fak your classmates… tell them that their grandfathers took those photos.. tbf, my grandfather himself saw their friends got tortured by japanese soldiers back then. They struck a water pipe into his friend’s mouth and make him bloat, then the soldiers jump on his stomach..Oh btw i’m malaysian
I think there is a very apparent disconnect among the youth between the past events and the present world they live in. That is something we need to work with, and I have to say it is a failure of our education system.
This is sad because my family was yet another victim of the war, my great grandmother's mom was captured then blindfolded and killed by Japanese soldiers.... Yeah, we're all not alone by ourselves :(
@@anti-globarismcommunism7870 ever heard of the term "eye witness"?
@@anti-globarismcommunism7870 ok weeb
@@anti-globarismcommunism7870 didnt ask + ratio
@@wuhancoronavirusincommunis3719 didnt ask + ratio
@@wuhancoronavirusincommunis3719 stop reapting the same thing
Still have doubts? Look up "Unit 731"
@@kxszuhev7082 pretty soon we'll need to start an archive with all of your alt accounts. I've found two:
ug4876dkv and Je97CsR3
honestly do your goddamn research and carefully sanitize your brain of all the shit stuck to it before commenting on youtube.
@@kxszuhev7082 ah add kxsz uhev to the list
honestly im not willing to believe anyone with a functioning brain would spam comment this. i swear you're a bot.
also watch the damn video and do your own research. cite sources when you come back.
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@@kxszuhev7082 hey ive found some client side bugs with your bot need me to fix them for you
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This is probably the only English speaking video that accurately tells war crimes and characteristics of Japan. Thank you
Its not.
They did some weird stuff in China, beyond conquering and colonizing. How a culture so obsessed with honor would gangrape helpless women is beyond me.
I mean, that really depends on the definition of "honour". If your definition of honour is something that's close to the pop culture depiction of "western" chivalry, then of course gang-rape of civilian women (or hell, anyone) would be unthinkable. However, if your definition of honour is absolute loyalty to (e.g. "meine Ehre heißt Treue" of the Nazi SS), then any and all atrocities could be excused away by simply following orders.
If you don't view the people you are massacering as people to you it is no different than butchering a cow
@@rushfan32
What's this ?Yuhuatai(雨花台)Martyr's Cemetery(雨花台烈士陵园) Nanjing was founded by Mao Zetong in 1950 at Nanjing.
During 1927-1949(the republican era) the area was used for the execution of traitors. It is thought that over 100,000 communists were killed here by Chiang Kai-shek In 1950 it became a memorial for the revolutionary martyrs.Mao Zetong wrote on the monument more than 300 thousands Communist Chinese were massacred by Ching Kai-shek as below-死難烈士万歳 国民党政府在雨花台曽経屠殺了三十万共産党烈士 -
The number of victims was 300 thousnads is quite the same of the present socalled fake and fabricated Nanking massacre museum. Very doubtful and strange to accuse Japan with socalled fake and Fabricated fraud.
@@rushfan32
Solicit me if you want to know and study more seriously about many real historical evidence to deny the baseless, fake and fabricated Nanking massacre by Communist China just after 1980s !!!
@@slaughterersofthemankind6353 Bark all you want bot but without sources you're just blaberring out bullshit, the majority of asia knows what the japanese did
“Like a nazi Batman but his only superpower is his swaztica armband “ is an amazing quote and this video is amazing but very deep
This is the only context in which I will ever upvote this specific string of words.
Ich bin die Nacht!
NevadaJPC
So it’s not amazing BECAUSE it’s deep ?
"Blamed the Koreans for it" - so its death before dishonor, but perjury is ok? Or was he one of the dihonest, non-rule-abiding ones?
As a Japanese person myself, all I have to say is this is one of the most disgusting recurring themes that take place in Japan a lot(especially in politics). I cant state enough how grateful I am for certain freedoms in America because of this
@David Kim probably is
@David Kim Yeah its really quite disturbing. These people need to get off of their fucking computers and go meet some people of different races without going into it with this autistic bias that they have. Like yeah people are different but its not a bad thing and it doesn't make them less human than you.
@@photosyntheticzee9915 I see you have drunk the liberal Kool Ade.
"Honor" in this context is about reputation, not integrity. You can be as immoral as you like, as long as you're not caught.
I know it has been a few years, but thank you for this video. As a Chinese person, I'm just so annoyed when people act so clueless about why China and Japan do not have a good relationship. And no, it's not because Japan is currently allied with the US - not everything has to do with the US. I know that it's from a lack of knowledge, but while I don't necessarily mind educating people on the events of NanJing (or as the video calls it, Nanking), it sucks when after I take the time to educate them they still don't believe me.
"It must be Chinese propaganda! It wasn't that bad! Can't call it genocide if it's only one city!"
It was that bad, and if this doesn't qualify as genocide than I don't know what's their criteria for genocide. And China was not the only country affected by the Japanese invasion. Other Asian countries including Korea have their own tales to share. Just because it doesn't fit into the narrative that you have learnt doesn't mean you can disregard other countries' history.
"You like anime you must love Japan!"
I like anime. I also don't have any animosity against the individual Japanese person. They also have a beautiful country. It doesn't mean that I have to love the ideologies and actions of their country. And as long as the Japanese government refuses to acknowledge the past actions of their country, they cannot claim that they have changed.
"It was ages ago anyway! You should just let it go!"
Will you ask a Jew to just forget about what happened in Germany, simply because it's no longer ruled by the Nazis? It has not even been a hundred years since WW2. Also, I think the Asian countries affected would be more inclined to "let it go" if the Japanese government didn't live in denial and properly apologised and made reparation. They cannot claim to have apologised if they still refuses to acknowledge some of their actions during the war and continue to honour war criminals in their shrine.
It's crazy how there's so much Japanese people in the comments who are literally replying to every single comment defending their war crimes.
They are called netouyo.
@@lamia197 LMAO. I googled what it meant, and HSAHA. It's literally them. Thanks for the info man. "Netouyo" xD
@@kuensbbsheydjn518 bruh, your some kind of bot or troll, since i see you u in the comment section in almost every video about japanese war crimes with your comment always having 8 likes, no less than 8 likes but always jist either 8 or 12, which makes me think your some damn bot.
@@razr-x9666 LMAO. Don’t worry about them. They’re just radicals using bots. All they do is debate online thinking it’ll solve anything. 😂
@@meanjune I doubt it is debate since I don't see them actually read anything another than something that is in their favour.
Hell they can't even provide the solid evidence.
Just one question. Why did they consider surrendering a coward's move, but lying in court an acceptable action? This blew my mind.
It's something they held during the era of the(unwritten) Bushido code is strict to its core. Surrendering to them is shameful, dying to the last man is honorable( unwavering loyal to the lord,cause and clan. As well the family of the deceased honor is maintained )
if captured ether they were given the chance restoring/maintain honor is Seppuku. Those who wish not to take their own lives....well prepare for the worst from your enemies.
It's sounds like pride but it's their core beliefs of the warriors code.
If you already, watch "the last samurai " simple example of the Samurai code in the end
@@mobiusZero2 OK, I get all the above, but my question was about officers lying and denying their actions during the following trials. Isn't that dishonorable?
mobiuszero If surrender was so shameful for them, why were they such cowards and not admit the atrocities they’ve done during their imperial reign? Bushido my ass.
Lying aside, how is killing unarmed anything not dishonorable? If someone gave up their weapon and surrendered, how is killing him/her not dishonorable?
@@Peizxcv In a humanistic perspective i totally agree. The thing is that by dehumanizing the enemy there's no difference in the killer's psychology than squashing bugs. "They're not humans therefor there is no dishonor in using them as target practice etc etc". It happened and will occur in every military occupation.
Before watching this video:
I mean the japanese were bad but germany...
After:
Holy shit those soldiers had no souls. What is wrong with humanity, how could anybody commit such atrocities.
@@支那狂人 sorry my friend, but your English needs a little work, i still struggle to understand what you're trying to say
@@支那狂人 Dude as the other guy just said I cant really understand your comment but I think you are accusing me of being paid to critizice japanese war crimes xD and thats just false. Im Peruvian and have no connection to Japan, China or Corea. I was just reacting to this video.
Miguel Huamán This video isn’t historically correct. Don’t be fooled!
@@miguelhuaman8280 it more like a sarcasm
Some soldiers actually were proud of what they did, just like a few handfuls of Japanese prostitution volunteers who considered it an honor to ‘serve’ the nation during WW2.
I had a vague idea about how bad imperial japan was but this is something else.
world historic ignoramus
@@行思一体 nope
@@lu95bdjjst79 botttttttttttt
Nothing like seeing pictures of people brutalized in unjustifiable manners just to be stopped by a Jet’s Pizza ad of “If you weren’t hungry then, you’re hungry now.” Yikes.
Oh god
I got reese's commercial asking if I was drooling
RUclips knows how to hit with those commercials lok
Easy there RUclips
Where's Stephen King when you need him?
The first time I read about rape of Nanking in Wikipedia I couldn't eat all day.
Gabriel Petkov He is just an extreme anti-communism teenager without sensibility,just ignore him.
Then you really don't need to read about Unit 731
@@Juneth-xz7lv this ignorance got u bombed twice lol
@@Juneth-xz7lv lol u r ignorant denying all war crimes of japanese, as far as chinese yes many chinese were killed by communism by mao just as russian getting killed by stalin , but this is not about chinese , this is about japanese war crimes in south eastern countries . Just playing victim of war
@@Juneth-xz7lv So the fact that the Maoists behaved like proper cunts after world war two somehow justifies Japans many crimes and atrocities during the war?
I've lived in Korea for one year and believe me, people here in east Asia haven't forgotten about the crimes of the Japanese.
I suppose westerners forget because it happened far away to people belonging to very foreign cultures.
Most people in the former Japanese colonies have very negative views of the Japanese government.
@nshyO87sW lol are you Japanese?
In korea or east asia?
I honestly don’t get why people don’t talk about the Pacific theater in America. It was a major part of World War 2, and saw A LOT of death.
Ryan Williams except Taiwan for some reason..
You shouldn't forget Germany tried to apologize and admitted that they were war criminal. Japan? No.