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@Jonathan Perry You "would" probably be extremely racist too if having a gigantic military base filled with foreigners who regularly cause general disorder and commit crimes with near impunity. You know, a bit like some near for example the Mexican border are a bit or extremely racist..
When I studied Japanese in college I had several Japanese friends. They told me America only dropped the atomic bomb on Japan and not Germany because of racism. When I told them the atomic bomb wasn’t successfully tested until after Germany surrendered, they had a rather shocked look on their faces.
We got knowledge how to build the bomb from the Germans. German Scientists and Engineers were involved in developing the atomic bomb. Both the United States and Soviet Unions space programs used German scientists.
@@hydrolito The german scientist what helped to develop the A Bombs escaped Germany before the war, but it took the US more than a couple of years to develop the Bombs, the first test was done in July 1945, few months after Germany surrendered.
Japanese continues to teach (or not teach) their kids even today what they have been programmed to teach them by the postwar occupation force(s) of Japan. So, you will find the accurate understanding and answer to this question by referring to the historical records on War Guilt Program of the occupation force(s). Also, I learned about the following history-changing video from a comment with a link posted in this comment section: ruclips.net/video/9p8z1A3TsxU/видео.html As for atomic bombs, I've read/seen in several documentaries that started to pop up on the media in the past a few decades that: they used to call it "new weapon (of mass destruction)" towards the end of the war; the Japanese military R&D was developing it also, until the emperor Hirohito had been notified of its project and ordered immediately to halt its development, as he had feared the total destruction of Japan and the world (mankind) if the war was to escalate to using such weapon.
I lived in Japan for a few years in the mid 90’s and I was stunned at how many Japanese had no idea of what transpired during WW2. Never mind covering up atrocities, everyone does that, but they really were taught that they were just going about their own business when suddenly America attacked them. This didn’t really start changing until the internet became widely available.
I took a Japanese woman to see _Pearl Harbor_ back when it was released. She was mystified by the scenes of Yamamoto and his staff planning the attack, and asked me what they were doing. Between my terrible Japanese and her better but still not perfect English I came to understand that she had the impression that _America_ attacked _Japan_ and couldn't square that with the idea of Japan striking the first blow or even planning it. I don't know how she ever reconciled her cognitive dissonance.
That is just like the Germans from World War 2. My Great Grandma and Grandma didn’t know the truth about what happened to the Jews until they came to America in 1956. They came from Germany and didn’t know the horrors of what happened because the Nazi’s didn’t exactly advertise what they were doing. Many Germans just didn’t know.
I had a Japanese friend in college who grew up in Japan. His knowledge of his own country’s involvement in the war seemed incredibly limited. I get that it that the atrocities weren’t common knowledge but surely the imperial expansion wasn’t a secret? I just couldn’t believe that the Japanese people had no idea that their military expanded all over Asia all those years. I somehow don’t see a country that is proud of its military accomplishments hiding it from its people. So if the people knew of the military expansion, why would it be a surprise to learn that their military did terrible things, including taking preemptive action? In the end, I attribute the ignorance to a lack of critical thinking. If you don’t want to know, you’ll keep yourself from finding out the information, even if you’re in a place of higher learning.
Something Cool yeah because nothing says “please reconsider opening up your food factories” like Pearl Harbor and taking over the world with your best bud Hitler, yeah poor japan.
@@somethingcool9010 they where closed for a reson. what about 2 decades of shenanigans in china? about promisses to stop and then breaking the promises over and over again. US didnt shut down the factories and oil trade out of the blue. What do you expect US to do? nothing? and what was Japans response? getting their shit together? no, they joined nazis and attacked.
When I was living in Japan, a friendly clothing-shop owner asked me while doing small talk where I came from. "Germany", I answered. He brightened, smiled, told me Germany is a great country and if I knew that Japan and Germany were war-time friends? He told me what a strong leader Hitler was, and proudly showed me a Nazi-uniform replica hat in his (otherwise normal) clothing shop. He couldn't understand, why I didn't want to buy it?? I tried to explain as politely as possible that he shouldn't sell stuff like that, especially to Germans, that swastika symbols were illegal in Germany and that Hitler was a "really bad man". He was genuinely confused. He never learned in school about the "bad stuff" of Nazi-Germany and was terribly sorry, apologising about the Nazi hat. I saw him again a few weeks later when I was in the area. He recognised me and told me that, after going home that day he googled Hitler and the Nazi regime. He was shocked about what he found and apoligised again about not knowing about that stuff before.
You have an occupied slave mentality, regurgitating the propaganda forced down your throat in indoctrination camps called public school. Then you go spread your cultural rot in a foreign country where you have no right to. What makes you think you can impose your imperial elitist ideologies to foreigners that you clearly look down on? Youre an unbeknownst occupying agent dupe
@@Zabi-S No, he seemed to just not had any particular interesst in the topic before and he told me they didn't really talk about it in school, therefore, he only knew some (very) basic things about it. Why get informed about stuff you have no connection or interest in the topic? Do you inform yourself and google stuff about topics you don't have interest or some reason to know more about it? I don't. I also had the feeling that of course the nice things he said about Hitler was more in order to sell this hat, talking nice about my country and its former leader, so I would buy.
I clearly remember what a Chinese exchange student told me about Japanese and American involvement in world war two, he said that while America is now a rival of china he is grateful to the US for them having avenged the atrocities committed on China by Japan when China was too weak to get it's own justice.
Something I wish they’d remember. Just as Americans need to remember how many Soviet citizens died fighting the Germans. I’m not sure where historians land on this issue but I’ve heard WW II could not have been won just by America getting into it. Let there be no mistake Stalin gave his people no choice in the matter but the citizens of the USSR did fight with patriotism as well. After all they were invaded.
@@brentbeacham9691 the US could have won, but it would have been either America paying the price in blood, or they would have had to use nuclear weapons on germany, a lot of them.
as a german, im very proud of the german education system and that in school they teach what genuinely happened because i think you should always remember what your ancestors did wrong to learn out of those mistakes because our generation has the responsibility to not let history repeat itself
Everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations. Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons. Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it. They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war. Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites. After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense. His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people. People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
I feel the German model education should be used in every country around the world to expose every country’s war crime in order for everyone to be educated and smart enough to prevent future war crimes
@@5552-d8b I never agree with Nazi Hitler, but it is also true that German women were raped and otherwise tormented by Jews. It is strange that only defeated countries such as Germany and Japan are blamed today. In other words, in Churchill's words, history is made by the victorious nations. Defeated countries had no right to speak anything.
Germany: we have committed countless attrocities and shall now make laws to be better, as well as pay reperations. (Edit, was repititions as a typo) Italy and Russia: we joined the allies and were forgiven. Japan: there was no war is ba sing se
My wife is a Filipina. I have been to the Philippines four times. 400,000 of their civilians and soldiers were killed in 3 years. They will never forget.
@@harrellt1405 The guilty generation is also close to dying out now. Their decendants have a responsibility to educate themselves on the crimes of their forefathers, but they are not to blame themselves.
a friend of mine spent a couple of years as an exchange teacher in Japan, she said the school she taught at they teach this: "Japan was backed into a corner by western colonialism and unreasonable trade restrictions and the only course was to fight, despite Japan's superior culture, superior technology and superior warriors Japan could not match the US's superior manufacturing capability and eventually the war did not go favourably" that's it, that's all they taught, no mention of the invasion of China, no mention of their imperialism and conquering of other nations, no mention of atrocities or war crimes
Well there was nothing really unique about heir expansion pre-WWI as the other imperial powers were equally guilty of this. Much like the Italians there was resentment over the way they had been treated as allies after WWI. None if their territorial claims were acknowledged and they were forced to keep a smaller navy than the US and Britain. So in that respect they may feel justified in their expansionism. Nothing justifies the atrocities committed though.
@colin minhinnick I don't disagree but it is true that the Italians perceived they had been slighted. So did Japan. Their imperial sentiment was out of time with the west but that is no surprise either considering they weren't heavily involved in the conflict. WWI saw an end to the Ottoman, Russian, German and Austro-Hungarian Empires. The British and French had suffered huge losses and so focused more on the home front than their colonies. Japan was different because its position was strengthened by WWI and so imperial sentiment was still strong.
20 years ago my new Japanese wife and I were watching the movie “Pearl Harbor.” She honestly thought it was totally fictional and was shocked to learn that the Japanese had actually attacked the US. She said the Japanese schools never taught anything about the war that portrayed them as aggressors.
I asked a Japanese friend what he thought about the war in the Pacific. He only replied "Victors write the history of war". That's all I really needed to know. It really sounds like Japan continues to downplay what happened during the war while Germany has fully owned what happened and moved on. Japan likewise could be a fully rehabilitated nation but it simply refuses to do so.
Wait how can he downplay it And claim history was written by victors? Would that imply he knows the history? And how arent they rehabilitated? The havent had a war in almost 80 years
Leggo My Ego Doesnt that contradict the video?, how can a foreign agent write books in a sistem of goverment aproval like japan? I think you might be a bit confused yourself buddy
@@eldavid8774 The entire construction of new japan was after a masterplan that would maintain western (US) control. Did you not listen to what was said in the video? The provisional administration could have done things differently but chose not to alter too much to keep the loyalty structure in place. Even letting actual leaders and war criminals off to do so. This is nothing strange however. Even with Germany some got of lightly if they could be helpful to the new administration, ot beneficial to the victory powers in some way. Like getting to the Moon. Or incidentally, developing atomic weapons.
I did a trip to Bataan a few years ago. They have a museum where the American-Filipino’s surrendered. In the museum they have pictures of what the Japanese’s did to the civilian population in Manila when it fell. One picture was of women with her cloths half ripped off and her breast cut off. We were told by the administer that a Japanese student broke down to tears when he saw that. He had know idea of the atrocity his country had done to the Filipino people.
I met a man 40 years ago who was a survivor of the Bataan death march. The incredible story had me in tears. God bless this man, he had passed many years ago. It is horrifying what people can do to other people. We would not treat animals this way.
What that Japanese student discovered was only the tip of the iceberg, I wonder how'd she react when she eventually learnt that there were far more victims who suffered as a result of the atrocity and brutality of the Imperial Japanese Army during their occupations in the Asian countries...
I attended college with a large Asian population in the student body. A few of the Japanese students had no idea what happened leading up to the war. As far as they knew, Japan was minding its business and America attacked them. One Japanese guy I knew became obsessed with WWII because he was never taught much about it. He had never heard of Pearl Harbor. It really had a profound effect on him.
Back in 1990 I was a 20 year old on my first overseas trip. Went to Honolulu and to see the Pearl Harbour memorial. The coach we went on was chock full of Japanese tourists. I had a bit of downtime with the driver after the visit and asked him how does it feel to him to take Japanese people to this place? He said, long story short this is the first time they learn about what happened, what Japan was involved in and its a real eye opener for them. They just don't learn it at home.
I'm from Singapore, and we are conscripted to serve 2 years in the army. When telling that to a Japanese friend, he asked why bother who will attack Singapore? I told him Japan did and killed many civilians indiscriminately. He was in disbelief. I told him the whole world know it and knows that Japan is whitewashing it. Send him some articles. Unfortunately, he never spoke to me again
Guys... The war was 80 years ago. Nobody cares anymore and it's not possible it happens again. And yes I know the meme about those who forget history but it's a different time now.
My grandparents went to Japan about 10 years ago as part of a tour group. My step grandma's father served in the Marines in the Pacific during WWII and witnessed atrocities. They went to Hiroshima and the tour guide presented the atomic bomb as the peaceful people of Japan were randomly attacked by the horrible Americans. When my step grandma told her about stories she heard about Japanese soldiers, the tour guide told her to leave. She believed it was lies made to make Japan look bad because Americans are jealous of Japan's success. This was someone leading tour groups!
Marketing, propaganda, misinformation, disinformation which usually leads to discrimination, is not unique to Japan and Japanese culture, it's everywhere. Unfortunately, Japanese culture takes a dim view of dishonorable behavior. To acknowledge well documented Japanese atrocities commited during WW2 leads to a condition of cognitive dissonance. Redirecting blame, portraying Japan as the victim of American aggression is their way of dealing with their dilemma.
@@RTDice11 yea. Thats why I would like to see all the countries because I liked this video and the one on Germany. Being a 40 year old American we were not taught anything about the Soviets being part of the end of the war.
While serving in the US Air Force my wife and I hosted Japanese foreign exchange students. One day, while exploring a nearby Discovery Store, one teenage girl we were hosting asked me why a framed picture on the wall for sale was of any importance. I looked at the picture and it was of the aircrew standing in front of the Enola Gay. I had to tell her why, from our perspective, the mission of the Enola Gay was so wonderful and saved American AND Japanese lives. It was hard to see the look on her face. She went on to explain that it was a horrific attack but she understood it. She also told us that the Americans had actually dropped leaflets over the cities warning people to leave but the Japanese government downplayed it and reassured everyone they were safe. Interesting side note: the fire bombing of Tokyo in June had a higher death toll and was more horrific than the Atom bombs. It just didn’t have the shock value.
@frequentlycynical642 Read more carefully...I was responding to when he said the Tokyo Fire Bombings had a higher death toll than the atomic bombs that were dropped.
America did actually try and reduce civilization deaths and gave work before the attack (the pamplets) sounds like a very bright young lady who understood what America did.
Rafurbi Here is a fact. I have here in my hands by far the most popularly used textbook for high schoolers on the Japanese history(has a 60% share, while the 2nd has just a 10%)and it tells the history which lies between the beginning of WW2 until the end of the 1940s for more then 30 pages(the entire history is treated for 407 pages). It is true that, speaking from my experience as a native Japanese, most of the Japanese history classes in the compulsory education are deficient on this topic and some of them are just complete disaster. But orthodox historians at least put in the textbook the fact about occupation, about comfort women and about major genocide of Chinese and Korean done by Japanese soldiers and civilians. The real problem is not texts, but systems, teachers, and the general tendency towards historical denial in mentality of Japanese.
Yeah... Combining lack of understanding with a massive victim complex over the atomic bombs, means that a lotta people in Japan act like acknowledging Korean or Chinese suffering somehow discounts Japan's suffering. And it also normalizes all the atrocities committed with the broad brush excuse of "it was wartime." Add that Yasukuni nonsense as the garnish on top, and you get a country full of people who cannot understand why their neighbors are still mad. I've lived in Japan for a number of years now, and it still makes me facepalm.
Duane Samuelson i mean isnt it quite weird?why US flags keep getting burned in the middle east, why trump piñatas are made in México ,why african nations live in poverty, why minorities are killed by the policy,why do armed militias keep getting western weapons, why is the duro war still going even though it has made things worse ,why leaders of third world nations keep getting killed by western forces only to make situations worse, these things keep hapening yet no western leader knows why, it has happened before yet they keeping doing the same things as before, miss me with tha eurocentric sense of superiority, the world facepalms And rolls their eyes everytime you fuck up again And yet dont understand why the rest of the world hates you
I lived in Japan for 5 years from 2008 - 2013 and many to this day don't even realize how bad imperial japan treated other countries during wartime. Very eye opening.
The most important fact about understanding Pearl Harbor is Kermit Tyler and the US radar signal that picked up the Japanese planes coming Check here his and the entire WW2 story : ruclips.net/video/toJQIuPRJrU/видео.html
In 1990, I was teaching at a small school in CT that had Korean and Japanese students. In one class, I had a student on the Roster as Myung, which is a Korean name. I said hello in Korean and he looked at me like I was crazy. Very insulted, he said he was Japanese. I replied that I had made the mistake based on his Korean name, which he flat-out denied was anything but Japanese. I let it drop, but later heard that he had complained to his family. His grandmother confirmed she had been a comfort woman, and that he was part Korean, his father a child of Japanese rapists. That brought out that his mother was probably also the child of a comfort woman, though his maternal grandmother had passed away some time before. Myung later told me that all of his Japanese friends wound up shunning him over it. Occasionally, Asian kids would bring their textbooks to use as reference materials. The math and science books were pretty good, but the history books were exactly as you said - the Japanese very thin on WW2, and the Korean and Chinese ones full of stories from the time. The Japanese kids would be angry about the "false history" from the time, like the Bataan Death March mentioned in Zinn, but they quickly realized that ther was a lot missing from their history books.
My parents are Korean and I asked them why they hated Japan so much. They spent like 30 mins naming atrocities and told me not to watch anime because the Japanese would put subliminal messaging in it to make it seem like they were victims.
Yeahhhh my mom felt that from Hetalia-- that anime def. does make it seem like the axis powers were "not that bad"...........LOL they show Germany of that time as "good". I mean history/countries/culture is more complicated than a single anime character can portray so..... I tried to just let it go- but my mom def. hated it STRONGLY. Actually I'm sure Korea hated it, hence their character was removed. But my mom wasn't against anime like Inuyasha which was more like folk tale like. (She enjoyed watching it with me). But I feel like most Asian countries would not be as bitter if Japan had made an official apologies earlier in history....and approached it more like Germany did. My mom and I can understand some Japanese, so we got to experience awkward moments with some Japanese adults that came to our house..... I remember my Japanese's friends dad drinking a bit too much at a party my mom hosted for my friends and their parents, (4 friends and 4 set of parents). The Japanese dad started muttering about how low Korea was and how he hated working here with lower class people to the other Japanese dad that looked quite nervous. Both mothers looked clearly uncomfortable too. He also brought up how much he hated his daughter was best friends with a halfy girl (aka me). I guess its similar to how white millennials feel when their dad calls his/her black friend inappropriate nicknames/ or shows his biases...... I'm sure not all Japanese people think this way... but you know how the US voted trump? I'm just saying wrong thinking is more prevalent that one might expect hahhaaha. LOL sorry long rant but made me reflect on how I grew up. (edit spelling)
@@gageriddle1681 yeah, it is pretty funny, but it also reflects how little, the Japanese public learnt about their part in WW2, a lack of respect/understanding towards the level of atrocities they took part in is kinda, hard to ignore I think..... It really contrasts with their victimization persona that is taken about the nuclear bomb that took place in Hiroshima and Nagasaki... which I do not take lightly, and think of as horrific events. But I also had fun watching hetalia when I was younger, and helped draw fan fic.... but the more I learnt about actual history the more I was like-- ehhh;;;;; maybe not the best move on Japan's part.... Cuz hetalia was targeted for younger audiences as a fun way to teach history....... but as a whole I think its important to just respect one another, and there is no need to hate on modern day Japanese people...... but like Germany, learning one's history is important... like how I wish in America, learning more in depth on how the natives were treated is important......
But you really can't blame the Japanese citizens for their ignorant about their own history. The way to help them realize their history is to teach about it. I'm an Anime and Manga lover myself despite my country (Philippines) being one of the countries nearly destroyed by the cruelty of Japanese Empire that time. But, why is philippine citizens still welcomes Japanese Nationals enter our borders without a sense of despite to them? It is because we were educated that It is the Government's Fault and not the citizens of the country they also suffered losses and even innocent lives who doesn't want war at all. In the end, no one actually wins for there are always losses. It really is to education that this ignorance will be dealt. Not only in Japan but also in the other countries such as S.Korea, China, Philippines.
As an American I know we don’t love to admit fault. But as a resident of Japan and former school teacher, I got in trouble for talking about “pearl harbor” which didn’t happen.... and I recently talked to my partner about Unit 731 and then she had nightmares because she never heard about it. At least her grandfather said “we were not good to China” without detail.
Yeah, I get it must be really fucking tough to discover all that shit while there are still some veterans alive. Imagine that you discover your loved grandfather participated in the atrocities... Must be the most horrible of shocks. I won't be surprised if many of them discovered it now in the internet era but are in complete denial. Many Germans have come to terms with the fact that their family members were high ranking SS officers, so I know the Japanese people can do it too. But it's not an easy thing to do. 80 or so years is basically yesterday in the scale of history...
@@DonVigaDeFierro I've never met a Japanese person who knows what unit 731 is. But they deny it when I ask or they look it up and also decide I'm a bad person for telling them about it. I can't imagine a future where japan takes the approach to history that Germany did. But I do agree that it's not an easy history to confront. Slavery is much older in the usa and many Americans still struggle to accept that and how bad it was.
@@gregorybreen7705 Slavery isn't in living memory. Also, Most Americans even white Americans aren't even descended from people who were Americans at the time of slavery. It's not exactly comparable.
@@robbiddlecombe8392 I'm form new york, we are taught the same. I went to university from 2010 to 2015 in wester north Carolina, they learned.... other stuff....
I visited Pearl Harbor while in Hawaii on our honeymoon. Before the tour, there was a short historical film about what lead to the attack and the consequences. There were many Japanese tourists there, and they were literally horrified. They had no idea of the history of the war, and looked literally sick at what they were seeing.
I mean imagine going to japan for a tour on a random base that’s important to the locals and finding out for the first time America had slavery. You would be calling a lot of people to confirm and spread the news. “Like wtf do you mean we had slaves?!”
@@JL_Lux Fortunately in America, we do teach that Slavery was a very big deal. For better or worse, it's a big part of our history. The crux of the story is the Japanese try to stay ignorant on a lot of facets of their pre-WW2 history.
@@717UT Well, we were in Hawaii for a week on a cruise ship, and knew we probably wouldn’t be back. It was one of the side trips provided with the cruise, and the weather was awful, so beaches really weren’t an option. Been married 30 years in August, so it worked out okay.
@@Synthetic-Rabbit Well, I’m not sure that’s true anymore, really. Many districts have to stay away from that topic now. Can’t make anyone uncomfortable with American history.
During the invasion, Japanese army dropped bacteria bombs in my hometown Quzhou (if you watched the movie Midway, it’s in there) and my grandmother as a kid was effected by it and since had a severe skin problem on her legs, which got passed down to my father and maybe me. It’s a symptom that makes your skins on the leg become fish scales like and very itchy. And I know that there are many many more people who are still living with the aftermath of their war crimes.
I'm not a doctor but I do know that what you have is called Psoriasis which is a genetic condition, which explains why multiple generations of your family have it. What's happening is that your immune system is overactive and is attacking your skin as a result. There's no cure but your symptoms can be managed, I had a girlfriend who had it and these are some of the things that helped her. Soaking in a warm (but not hot) bath with sea salt in it for 15 minutes helps reduce the itching and inflammation, direct sunlight helped reduce areas that were affected and do what you can to relieve stress. Maybe you already know everything I just told you, either way I hope that information helped.
You’re insinuating that your grandmother passed along a bacterial infection to her offspring, and they passed it to their offspring. Hate to burst your bubble or change how you tell your life story, but that’s not possible. It’s possible that she was affected by a bio-weapon. It’s possible she had a genetic trait that passed on. But it’s not possible for a bacterial infection from a bio-weapon to turn into a hereditary condition lol
My grandmother's uncle was a P.O.W. captive in a Japanese camp. He never talked about the war but my grandma relayed to me one story. His fellow prisoner was starving to death so my great great uncle swiped a melon rind (like a cantaloupe rind) that the soldiers had discarded from under a fence to give his starving friend to eat. Soldiers caught him and knocked his teeth out with a rifle butt and beat him. He was eventually rescued, weighed 90 pounds, looked like a crippled old man in his 20s, and never talked about the war except a small handful of times. Died in his early 40s.
@@tonygameaddict_1168 The POW was my grandma's uncle. He died seven years before i was born. I only have the secondhand story from my grandma who died a few years ago.
@@skriabinfly Jesus, dude. I'm so sorry. I had a great grandfather who served in Europe, and he was fortunate enough to never be taken prisoner by the Nazis. Ngl, it's sometimes a real shock to realize just how lucky I was that he survived the war and died instesd from a bad Florida hospital when I was 5. My best friend had a great uncle that I'm pretty sure died at Iwo Jima. I'm truly sorry that happened to your family. That definitely can't be the most fun story to tell.
One of my dad’s friends was a POW in Germany during WWII. He was shot down over occupied France in 1943 and spent 2 years in a prison camp. He didn’t have a single good thing to say about his captors. Even at that, he was probably treated better than the POWs held by Japan. Surrender was seen as weakness to the Japanese and they treated people who surrendered accordingly.
Kishi Nobusuke(A-level war criminal) became the prime minister after WWII, his son was congress man but died before national election, his grandson Abe Shinzo became prime minister , so did his relative Aso Taro.
@@ML-kj3fr Japan's wartime criminals continue to be revered and memorialized in the Yasukuni Shrine to this day. In my last visit to Japan (2019), I still saw the wartime rising sun flag in one of its museums, proudly displayed, together with a recorded interview of an old Taiwanese couple, stating that Japan helped educate them during the war. Though the account may be true, the deliberate one-sided representation of the war continues in Japan to this day.
My wife is Japanese from Japan. They do not mention the rape of Nanking, they do not mention the empire aggression they wanted, they glance over Pearl Harbor, but they sure do talk about the atom bombs and fire bombing of the cities. It’s sanitized history.
@@daphenomenalz4100 Imperial Japan is by far the most barbaric and blood thirsty nation from contemporary history. Nanjing is the worst thing I've ever read about it. At least other countries recognize their faults and teach about them. Japan pretends like it didn't happen. Seriously, take a deep-dive into the "Rape of Nanjing" and it'll make your stomach turn. Throwing babies in pots of boiling water was the cherry-on-top. This was only 80 years ago.
Next time anyone visits Japan, try visiting history museums. I encourage you to do a Google translate on the alot of the Japanese descriptions. You will notice that there's a difference in what's written in Japanese vs what's written in English
Its the damn truth, I hated the Hiroshima museum. Went with a Japanese speaking American friends and we nearly got kicked out for laughing at their version of events.
@@thelradame5508same I visited the atomic museum in Hiroshima this summer. So conveniently vague. It makes me angry: no one is guilty of the crimes of their ancestors (I mean shit I’m German-English I have to believe that right) but we sure as shit should make sure we don’t replicate them. How can you do that when you ignore your own history? Sigh.
My great grandfather was chosen to be executed by the Nippon soldiers during the SookChing operation. But while being transported to the execution location (most likely Changi beach) he took the opportunity to jump out of the truck that he was being transported on and hid in the forest before sneaking back home after the operation ended. He was soooo proud of his escape that he constantly bragged about it to my mother and my uncle and aunts
Similar as my grandpa. He was a civilian by then and was kidnapped to be sent to Japan as a slave labour, but he somehow managed to escaped before being sent out (my grandma said he was jumping down from a cliff and rolled into woods and bushes) and survived from the war.
As one of the country heavily affected by the Japanese occupation, we still learn at school about all the atrocities that their army did in our countries. The kidnapping of innocent locals, the massacre, mostly those with Chinese descent, the rapes and the enslavement of men, usually the Malay and British army that they caught to build train railways etc etc. someone should make a documentary about their war crime in Japanese language and spread it to the people.
If the book “Rape Of Nanking” could be translated and distributed that would be a start. But 100% sure Japan has conspiracy nuts as well. So the book and the historical record might be dismissed.
It is not unknown knowledge to the Japanese, it's just something they like to ignore. Even if you give them japanese books written about this, they would not read it. Somewhat understandably.
As a Japanese, I would like to sincerely apologize for our government's behavior and our ignorance. What we have been doing to other countries is beyond cruel, heartbreaking, and embarrassing. I would like you to know that there are many people here who believe these things(historical education, apology, discrimination, hate, etc.....) must be changed. We never forget what happened, and we believe in making wrong things right for our beautiful and loving future. Sadly, I have to admit this is going to take a long time to fix, and I might be gone before I see these improvements because of our political situation, and hate around us(Perhaps you will see what I mean in this comment section....I'm so sick of it), and current society(I'm 21 years old now. I don't want to live the rest of my life without seeing bright future on these things). We still can't talk about Japan's past openly without getting hate, and losing friends or even family, and this is heartbreaking and fearful for us. Many history teachers know these things happened, but they are afraid of being attacked so they don't teach them(I have seen this a lot). We will work to get things right even if it is going to take a long time, we promise. Everybody wants love and peace not hate or ignorance that tears us apart, we have already learned that so many times. If you are Japanese reading this, WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS! Sorry for my bad English. I love you all! Take care!
Your English is good! I do understand there are conflicted within Japan discussing about history, and they do need to own up and move on. USA and European countries do know Japan was aggressive and stubborn country, but the present is what matter as we perceive how our past become who we are today. We forgive, we grow economy together, and find interests in your and my cultures! Well, not at this moment, the border is closed 😅 Anyway, I believe it is right to learn the past without getting hurt because the current generation is living in the modern Japan that have no fault to what they did in WW2. If they keep hiding it, are the minds truly in 21th century? Are they holding grudges and shame that international world doesn't bother much today? Medieval Japan and Japan are different beings. Thank you for telling us what's happening in Japan. It's must been difficult! ♡
@@benstine2480 That's the point. You are absolutely correct. Sadly, we still have to work to START our journey for change. Thank you for replying! Take care.
You didn’t do anything so you shouldn’t be apologizing. That was many years ago, and the world is very different now. I appreciate your attitude, but please remember this was our grandparents war, not ours.
During the invasion of China, two Japanese officers, Toshiaki Mukai and Tsuyoshi Noda, had a rather morbid competition on who could behead 100 people first. The Japanese news media published a story on the event, with both officers smiling for the camera holding their swords. The headline (translated) read: "Incredible record" (in the Contest to Decapite 100 People)--Mukai 106--105 Noda--Both 2nd Lieutenants Go Into Extra Innings." The Japanese media, and public celebrated this. Let that sink in.
Unfortunately, my education, 45 to 30 years ago, neglected the war crimes of Japan. Thanks for this video, as it makes people of all nations consider what has and has not been taught to them.
Feel the same way. I had heard a little about the Japanese invasions into China/Korea, but not all those horrible experiments. Makes me so glad Simon and team are covering subjects like this.
I would have had no idea if I didn't take a World Studies class in High School. I know about the Holocaust when I was five, didn't know about Nanking until I was 15. And SJWs have the nerve to complain about "white washing."
More people need to know about this. This is SERIOUSLY scary. p.s can't believe I'm writing this, but to the ones with reading disabilities: no, I don't mean what the Japanese did in WWII, but their alternative history.
@@rumelingecristescu6046 If you compare act for act then yes.... obviously. But the potential harm that it could cause in future generations is pretty dangerous.
I agree. All history should be known, good and bad. Look at the mess America is in with the race situation. Only America itself believes the war was 100% about slavery.
During the Japanese occupation of Hong Kong, my grandmother told me she would often see people being beheaded besides the docks and thrown into the seas. She recalled that the water around the docks were blood red most of the time.
I did not blame the current japanese generation ... it could be because of their education on this topic almost all grandfathers & grandmothers in china, hong kong, malaysia, singapore, indonesia, philippines etc would tell the same things about how cruel was japanese in ww2
My cousin was captured in Bataan. He survived the death march and the prison camp. I never knew him because he had to live in Florida. Physically, he couldn't handle the New England winters. My dad told me how thin he was when he came home. His experience probably shortened his life. I'm surprised how many young people in America never heard of Bataan. They heard of the atomic, though..
British: Our Colonists lads that enslaved and killed billions were wee little heroes, bringers of civilization and we don't own anybody anything and no you are not getting your stolen history back from our British Royal museum.. Chinese: We all love and worship Mao for killing millions of Chinese people, causing irreparable damage to Chinese culture and history and for his great leap backward....nah he's Okay!!!
Married for 37 years to a Japanese wife and we were watching band of brothers the episode when they found the camps, I said you think this is bad what the Japanese did was worst, she freaked out had no idea what I was talking about. I showed her a documentary about the actives the Japanese had done to the Chinese, Philippines and others, never seen her cry like that in my life ugh. I couldn't believe she never heard of any of these things, but after going to Japan several times I realize most people no matter how educated they are, they have never heard of a lot of this stuff.
First of all, everyone must recognize that history is made by the victorious nations. Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons. Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it. They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war. Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites. After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense. His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people. People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
My Ex -Japanese wife said I was lying and making things up. She had to call her "friends" to find out what actually happened. because I was "lying".....
I've watched a ton of videos asking Japanese in their 20's and 30's and they know NOTHING about WW II, and in particular their part in it. They've done the opposite, as in example, the Germans. The Germans have owned up to their behavior in the War, while Japan has not only never apologized, but has taken an attitude of acting like it never happened.
Yes Germany is an open book on WW2. The former SS HQ in Berlin, a ruin site with little more than the original foundations, is a holocaust museum with photos and readings about the nasty concentration camps, Final Solution and so on.. (at least it was like that in 2003) . This impressed me enormously that they put a humiliating past on full display like that
@@Yoloseriously If you know Japanese you’ll realize the so-called apologies are like “I am sorry for your sufferings” rather than “I apologize for my wrongdoings”
@@Yoloseriously They "apologized" that it happened. THE WAR. But they have NEVER apologized for the atrocities they committed, actually they have argued that they either never happened or extravagations.
I served with a Japanese man. He stuck out like a sore thumb. He looked like a 25 year old and a 70 year old at the same time. He was a 30 year old Private with Jump Wings. These facts begged some questions. His name was Hiro Yoshimitsu [Yoshi]. He joined the Japanese Ground Defense Force at 17 years of age. He did not like school. He did not study. He excelled at being a warrior. He volunteered for everything. He eventually earned an officer commission. As such he was offered a slot at US Army Airborne Jump School in Ft Benning, Georgia. He took it. He learned US Military history. He graduated and earned his Jump Wings. He went to a US Marine Corps recruiting office (in uniform) and asked how he could become a Marine. The Marines asked why he wanted to be one of us. He said he learned about what Japan did in WWII and that he didn't want to fight for them anymore. He would fight for us instead. He would redeem his family and his honor with his service to us. He was told he would lose his rank because he didn't have a High School Diploma and no college education, he barely spoke English. He would also have to graduate Marine Corps boot camp. Square One. He agreed. He went home to Japan. He resigned his commission. He sold everything he owned and brought a one way ticket to San Diego. He enlisted the next day. He graduated boot and went on to become an 0311. Infantryman. He served with me in First Battalion, Seventh Marines. Chesty's old outfit. (Look it up, It'll make more sense) A Japanese Soldier became a Son of Chesty. Life is funny sometimes.
I'm sure he had an interesting career. He did not stay with us long. Once he became a known quantity he became sort of a novelty. That's not a bad thing for anyone involved (I guess). The Marines are a small place. Word gets around. You see for some reason command level officers are a club. They rate themselves within that club based on all kinds of metrics but one they like to display is having foreign nationals serve under you. Add that he has Jump Wings. Now add he's a decorated former officer. Lastly he earned his combat action under your command. That's a rare thing. How valuable would he be as an Aide de Camp for a Marine General in Okinawa? The answer is: invaluable.
In my opinion, based on a LOT of study, Japan's actions in the war were every bit as bad as Germany's. In many ways, they were worse. I also believe my opinion on this is shared everywhere in Asia except Japan itself.
the main reasoning that we focus more on what Nazi's did compared to what Japan did was because unlike Europe, none of the allies actively liberated China/korea. We went straight for the heart of japan through the ocean and islands, and forced them to surrender and give up what they took. We didnt see the horrors and atrocities like we did in Europe, so they will be less known about in history. The rape of nanking was literally overshadowed by the holocaust. If the holocause never occured, we would be studying more about what happened in China then what happened in Europe.
I live in Belgium and hadn't I educated myself on the matter, I hadn't even known 99% of the shit Japan did prior to and during the war... It's a bit sad, that history books here show Nazi Germany as the big bad, when Japan was just as bad...
True, The Japanese actions were less discriminatory while the Nazis targeted various groups for reasons. The British and Australian POWS suffer worse than American POWS, google Sandakan Death March less than 10 survivors and they had to escape.
@Harutyun Tatlyan America wouldn't try either....it doesn't take that many nukes to cause untold devastation....there's not really any defence mechanism that can fully protect people from even a low class nuke. Nuclear war = Extinction. The sad part is that nuclear war is inevitable.
@Harutyun Tatlyan None of the so called "Anti Nuke systems" have ever been tested against nuclear attacks. Some Military scientists estimate thier failure at a 60% probability. Cause you might shoot down one or two nukes, but that pollutes the oceans were they land ....And depending on how man many are launched shooting them all down will be impossible. The nukes of today are over 10 times stronger than the Tsar bombar....even if shot down the devastation would be inconcievable..... Not even A titanium bunker would be able to take a direct nuclear strike....survival would be impossible, and just like I said....these bunkers have NEVER been tested. At least Africans will be safe in the event of nuclear war😥
when even the nazis were saying to the japanese about their human experiments "wtf, chill bro", you know that the atrocities were something else and on a different level altogether during WWII
I think the difference is that Japan can ignore it cuz they did it to other nations, while the Nazis also persecuted their own citizens, even if they viewed the Jews and any non-aryans as outsiders. At the end of the day, Nazi's imposed terror on everyone, which may be why Germany is so willing to not ignore its history as easily as Japan does. Make no mistake, no country is sinless, but in my experience when I went to school, my history professors were very passionate about telling us the whole truth and broke down the sins of America in great detail. My favorite history teacher spent the entire week explaining in detail why the Civil was was in fact about slavery, at its core, and why the Vietnam War was such a disgrace and evil in American history, even if the people at the time saw Soviets as a bigger threat.
Yeah and to be honest as a German this makes me proud. Iam not really patriotic, I don't patriotism will help anyone. But the way the Germans learned their lesson from the war is very good imo. We have a good education system and there it's taught in many subjects. And I don't see any problem in this. It's how ure supposed to learn from your mistakes. Great video. Iam highly disturbed by the Japanese and how they handled their guilt.
if you ever go to the Hiroshima memorial you'll find a hundreds of displays about the horrors of the atomic bomb and 2 sentences about Pearl Harbor. They definitely paint themselves as the victim
Isn't it because it's wholly dedicated to the bombing of Hiroshima and lives lost rather than a result of war? Never in history has an atomic bomb been used to that level, so it was a very significant event. In the end of the day, those civilians that were vaporised were victims and it is right to display those images to remind people that a weapon of mass destruction should never be used again. The focus should be on the education surrounding history in Japan to include the atrocities of Imperial Japan and how they affected other countries as a result.
Yes, that's what we're taught in school in Japan. In 6th grade the bombing and it's horrible impact was taught for over 3 months, while my teacher never said why Japan got bombed in the first place. When I asked him why he told me it was an ''accident'' and that it wasn't supposed to hit Japan. There were also only 2 bombs according to my teachers... I only found out in high school that Japan even took part in the war. And not in history class, but because of a youtube video. It's absolutely crazy how they deny history over here.
I’m an American who taught English in Japanese junior high schools for 17 years. Before that, I tutored Japanese exchange students in the USA. Now most exchange student programs have some academic requirements to take part, you’re usually talking about some very smart kids. So I was really shocked the first time I was tutoring a girl in history and the subject was the Battle of Midway in WW2, we were going into great detail and she was taking all these notes when I asked if she had any questions so far and she honestly asked me 1) what countries fought in the war, and 2) which side won. 🤨?!
Unfortunately, our own schools are doing the same on an even larger and more extreme scale in regards to slavery, genocide, white supremacy, war crimes, and so on. States like Florida working to outright make it a crime to teach children about the history of racial discrimination that defines every aspect of the evolution of this country. Unfortunately, most countries and cultures try to erase and hide their own crimes.
@@bow_wow_wow I find people like you so weird because every comment section has like one or two of you focusing on women even if it has nothing to do with them. Like the whole point is that Japan doesn’t talk about the war in general and teachers won’t speak out because they get shamed
@@AdderallAscension Maybe for whatever sociological reason men are more into History than women ? Or non-Japanese men frequent Japanese women a lot more than Japanese men frequent non-Japanese women for whatever reason too ?
I’m from a very very small city in China and when I watched the movie Midway I can’t believe that it’s accurate enough to include my city Quzhou! I visited the memorial since I was a kid and always known the story of American pilots but it’s nice to see it being represented in western media
I was teaching in Japan when Hirohito died. All but the elderly, celebrated his death. University students rebelled by refusing to take a break from their classes. I was shocked to find out Hirohito was hated by the modern population.
Note that Americans could have probably ended the war with Japan's other condition to have Japan occupied by neutral nations and tried by neutral nations like Russia & India & Mexico, but the Americans decided that those conditions were bad so Americans let the war criminal hiro-hito go free.
Hirohito didn't necessarily have the power to actually rein in much of the atrocities though, many times he tried but failed, the emperor was still seem as more of a religious and spiritual figure than a political one at this time. His intervention working after the bombs were dropped was the exception, not the rule
@@aoeu256Russia and neutral cant be in the same sentence, Russia actively engaged the japanese, the possible invasion of USSR troops into proper Japan is cited as a reason for their surrender, as for India the japanese had made efforts to push for indian independence and some back and forths in supplying a revolutionary army and having a "goverment in exile". I dont know about México but claiming that Japans proposal was sound is naive
Nazi Germany were broken by RUSSIA. America joined the UK and allies, only when it became obvious that Germany was going to lose the war....taking the scientific, rocket and medical information and top expert personnel back to America
@@okdre9276 except america only fought against germany after hitler declared war on the United States. The declaration of war by congress only named japan.
@@realdiamondshow yeahhh...the USSR nearly lost if it wasnt for the Allies(US,UK and a tiny tit bit of france)to open the second front and Hitler's miscalculations and misformation by his generals.
@Jeremy Harmon The Germans were only capable of waging war at all due to American industry supplying vehicles and essential fuel additives. It is fiction to portray America as the heroes of the day..without also understanding that they actually backed BOTH sides for several years...stood back and waited to see the best side to publicaly back.
As an American who has visited Japan several times, I found it particularly interesting the way their museums presented the war. For example, while the atomic bomb museum in Hiroshima presents events in a relatively straightforward and factual way (the goal being to prevent similar events in future,) the national war museum in Tokyo presents it as “we just wanted some oil for our beautiful nation and the colonial powers weren’t sharing; we HAD to attack them! They gave us no choice!” Said museum also punches up prestious Japanese projects, like the battleship Yamato. They don’t mention that the Yamato barely left port and was quickly sunk by aircraft…
But isn't it true that Japan was deprived of oil, their *life* *blood* , and that's why they attacked Pearl Harbor? Japan was provoked, and then attacked. Right?
The Nanking Mas*acre is 100％ lie created by China and the US Democrats. They framed Japanese who did nothing wrong and executed them at the Tokyo Trials. Japan has tons of evidence, but the US is not interested in the truth. In Battle of China, the number of victims of the Nanking Mass*cre is 40,000, but now China claims 300,000. Why? Because the Nanking Massac*e is completely lie. The proof is that the Democrats, led by Biden, are still terrible Liars today. Japan never invaded Korea. During the Japanese rule, the life expectancy of the Korean peninsula increased by 20 years, the population doubled, and industrial production increased sixfold. Do you know that recently Korea fabricated the history of Vietnam and Netflix stopped from distributing it? Korea is a lying nation and Japan is suffered by them
I lived in Singapore for over 2 years (mostly people of Chinese descent, but also quite a few from Indonesia, Malaysia and India), and to this day, quite a few people still have bitter feelings about how their parents and grandparents were treated during Japanese occupation.
When I was in Japan, we toured Japanese bunkers. In the bunkers they showed pictures of Japanese officers digging out holes and insinuate that they built them themselves. They don’t tell you that Okinawan slave labor built the other 1000. The also had a bunker where you could see shrapnel from a grenade and it read that the Japanese committed suicide honorably. They didn’t have the picture of American GIs walking around with a literal bucket of grenades tossing them into holes and bunkers. And yes, they still have statues with swastikas erected.
As a Marine, I spent 1977 in Okinawa, Japan. One weekend, I and a bunch of fellow Marines watch an old WW2 movie on a local TV station, staring John Wyane(sp?). The whole way though, it was the US winning acrost the pacific, but at the end, it was dubbed in that the war was over and Japan had won as the American were jumping for joy. We just all broke into laughter, almost rolling on the floor.
Same here. In 76 when TORA TORA TORA came out in the SNCO club in Iwakuni all the Japanese staff would cheer when their side was winning, but strangly silent when they lost. Semper Fi Marine.
First of all, everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations. Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons. Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it. They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war. Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites. After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense. His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people. People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
The Nanking Mas*acre is 100％ lie created by China and the US Democrats. They framed Japanese who did nothing wrong and executed them at the Tokyo Trials. Japan has tons of evidence, but the US is not interested in the truth. In Battle of China, the number of victims of the Nanking Mass*cre is 40,000, but now China claims 300,000. Why? Because the Nanking Massac*e is completely lie. The proof is that the Democrats, led by Biden, are still terrible Liars today.
Being half-Korean and growing up in a Korean family, I always knew that many South Koreans held contempt towards their Japanese neighbors. I knew about the sexual atrocities committed by the Japanese during their occupation of South Korea but I was not aware of everything else. I also wasn't aware that the Japanese educational system ommits most of the atrocities they committed. I find this unacceptable and any hogwash trying to explain the reason why it's ok to hide this information to be conveinient excuses.
Oh yeah. I teach in Japan... their peace days are such a joke cause they talk only about how bad Germany was to jews and how US bombed them... Never do they bring up that they killed more people than Germany killed jews. Never. It really is hard to have any respect for Japan tbh.
Yeah the American government pardoned some of the Japanese war criminals so they can use them against the Soviets. Example being Unit 731 doctors being used during the Korean War. It is kind of like Werner Von Brown and his fellow scientist, even though they helped the U.S during the space race. Their V-rockets killed scores of people from forced labor or dropping of the bombs. Also the US government want to use the Japanese government and military against the Soviets. This is also why they easily forgave them unlike Germany, but they knew what was up and became neutral. That's why the Japanese call their military the self-defense force.
It's almost the same as America omitting a lot of Native tribe tragedies in our history. It's usually made out as Englishmen coming over and finding new land, meeting Indians, having a feast. and then a huge fight broke out. This is what we call Thanksgiving
If it makes you feel any better, South Korea isn’t any better. Imperial Japan had a lot of bad stuff stuff Korea, but I would they can stop portraying themselves as one-sided victims and give credit where credit us due (Like being the first ones to modernize Korea).
First of all, everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations. Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons. Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it. They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war. Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites. After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense. His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people. People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
It was surprising to learn this because I had been very impressed with Peace Park in Hiroshima in 2008. It included a memorial for the Korean workers who were incredibly badly treated during WWII. It's unfortunate that this is not the norm in most of Japan.
That's because Vietnam was under a French colony during World War II & when France had surrendered to the Nazi Germany in 1940, Japan had occupied Vietnam immediately without firing the guns & cannons since both Japan & Germany was allied during that time & the Vichy French gov't allowed an occupation of the Japanese on their French colony of Vietnam, Laos & Cambodia and there was no bloody invasion had occurred unlike other Southeast Asian countries.
Hoàng Nguyên Woah there, I know many viet families that still to this day dislike and even hate the japanese. Mostly the older generation but where tf have you heard that viets have forgiven japan?
Hoàng Nguyên but we are here talking about how Japanese deliberately denying their war crimes. It is not about we forgive them or not but about how Japan try to paint itself as a victim not the other way around. To be fair, other does it too, even us but if you read actual history accounts, not the BS stuff we learn at school the it is really hard to hear some Japanese try to say that 2 Atomic bomb drop is not necessary when his country are all nut case back then.
@Hoàng Nguyên for vietnam what I have heard is that you guys have fought many foreign would be conquerors and after they are gone, like the french, Japanese, Americans you are ok with them, but China is always a danger that never leaves.
I had a roommate in college in the early 90's, it was his first time to the states. He said the pre-WW2 and WW2 was the darkest time in Japan's history. While we never spoke about war crimes specifically, he actually felt the need to apologized for Pearl Harbor (not needed) saying it was done without honor. He seemed to know all of the things we were all taught. Hiro was a great friend, sadly we lost touch over the last 20 years.
First of all, everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations. Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons. Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it. They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war. Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites. After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense. His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people. People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
Japan never invaded Korea. During the Japanese rule, the life expectancy of the Korean peninsula increased by 20 years, the population doubled, and industrial production increased sixfold. Do you know that recently Korea fabricated the history of Vietnam and Netflix stopped from distributing it? Korea is a lying nation and Japan is suffered by them.
The whole Imperial Japanese Army acted like the Waffen SS, making occupation by Japan worse than German occupation. I was born in Japan (Army dependent) during the occupation in 1951. I also visited Japan many time during a 30+ year career in the US Merchant Marine. I have much respect for the Japanese people and their culture but never underestimate the depravity of the Japanese Army before and during WW2.
@colin minhinnick We would have to go back to medieval times, when conquering armies took a city and killed all the men and put all the women and children into slavery, to find anything like the Japanese Army in WW2.
@colin minhinnick Ah yes, the infamous Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. The Japanese are still hated to this day from Korea to Indonesia for their treatment of fellow Asians. The lower regard for human life in Asia still exists to this day. The one thing they have plenty of is people. It is one of the many differences between East and West. This is something people in the West fail to understand.
@colin minhinnick you're not even talking about the worst stuff. Nanjing took terror and depravity to a level never before seen in history. I won't detail it here, but writing about it made me ill.
I was flying to Japan and a young Japanese lady talked to me along the way. When she learned that I was in the military she asked if I could answer a question she had. Her question: why are you here in our country? She had never heard of WW2 and had no idea why there were American military bases in her country. We had an interesting conversation about history after that.
@@kobekazu9717 Japan was told to surrender or the bomb would be dropped, pamphlet were dropped warning the people to evacuate before the bomb was dropped. America would have lost thousands of lives if they had to invade.
@Nat20 Damage About the nukes? The American drop plenty of pamplets about an incoming nuclear strike to Hiroshima. But sadly those civillians didnt believe the pamplets
What the fuck?! As a rare English speaking Japanese university student, I can say this is so biased and adverse to Japan. This gay like guy is talking as if Nanjing massacre or Sex enslavement was realty happed or directed by imperial Japanese army. Nowadays, even a westerner is realizing that China always cheat ,hide something important for them, for instance Uygr massacre, and unreliable. Nevertheless, why are you still able to believe what CCP claims "happed”？Propaganda is very very favored in China and other countries in Chino-cultural-circle(CCC)countries, wow!
I'm 63. My father fought the Japanese in WW2. My uncle was killed in Guadalcanal by the Japanese. I do feel some resentment over imperial Japan as it was a conflict dealing directly with my country and family. The Japanese imperial army, unit 731, various actors at that time acted savagely as seen with catching Chinese babies on bayonets for fun. Truly evil at anytime in history these acts were. At the same time I'm sure there was many an honorable soldier amongst them. We are all ppl after all. Some good and bad amidst all groups of ppl. But once something is done and over to hold grudges only serves to darken ones own soul to continue bitterness and division. I visited Japan in 2002 and found many ppl very kind and it was a lovely place to visit. War and sadism are just evil things in the dark soul of humanity and it's not specific to a race . The hope is for a kinder future for us all.
Why don't you read about how Japanese citizens feel free to discriminate and overcharge non-Japanese tourists and foreign students who travel there? Their prejudice is alive and will be used against you if they are given a chance. It has nothing to do with biological race of any kind of abstract human nature, it is the ethnocentric culture that the Japanese teach their own people.
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it" - George Santayana If the Japanese do not properly teach their own history, however atrocious and self - depreciating it may be. Then a future generation will no doubt go on another "Empire Expansion" conquest.
teach what properly? The Japanese as a people are Racist to this day. They don't teach of the bad shit they did because in the Japanese mind they didn't do anything wrong, ANYTING. After all the only people they hurt were non-japanese.
I agree that history should be taught "warts and all" with the idea that humankind learns from the mistakes of the past. If not, the risk of nationalism, and war with its associated atrocities is never far away.
What a joke. You really think there's any danger of that lmfao. We don't even have a military anymore. We're the most peaceful country on this planet. And the only truly economic power. Just goes to show that everyone could really learn a lot from following the example set by. japan. Germany too, if only they would stop stockpiling all their NATO nukes and become a truly anti nuclear weapons country. But yeah for all the bad things we may have done in the past Japan and Germany are basically the best countries in the world now. So pretty tough to argue that were doomed to repeat pearl harbor just because we don't like to think about people we never met doing bad things to others.
I asked my uncle about it once (he was born and raised in Japan), he was also homeschooled though and so he told me what my grandparents taught him and my mom, which is “America was the aggressor, we did nothing wrong.” I really don’t like my grandparents.
I understand where that interpretation can come from. You have to keep in mind that back then radio was really the only way information was attained on a mass scale, with the government broadcasts telling you everything is normal and that the country is prospering. So, if you're a rice farmer in a tiny town you have no clue what's going on abroad. Maybe you hear about some military confrontations here and there, but that's it; that wasn't anything unusual given that war in some manner wasn't a terribly unusual occurrence. The next thing you know American planes are dropping bombs on a town a few kilometres away.
@Mycel I think they would point out that American aggression went back much further than ten years. From Perry's expedition forcing Japan open for trade favorable to European colonial powers, to American imperialism in the Philippines and Hawaii, to German involvement in China and Russian territorial ambitions in Mongolia, to British and Dutch and French control of the East Indies and Indochina, Japan would claim that it had been hemmed in by those countries that had already industrialized, and unfairly prevented from using imperialism and colonialism to supply resources to its own growing industrial base, like everyone else already had been, often in Japan's own back yard and to Japan's detriment. Then, in a period of general neglect by the European great powers, when Japan simply sought to use the same sorts of methods of territorial expansion that all those other powers had been using for decades, suddenly there was a problem? No one in the West cared enough to even try to carve out pieces of China any more, so why shouldn't Japan clear out the warlords and make a colony of China? This culminated in the United States issuing Japan with a flatly untenable ultimatum: Face an oil embargo that would cripple its industry and military, unless they renounced all those colonial ambitions and accept relegation to permanent subservience (which would also guarantee the fall of the current government, and possible societal destabilization). In that context, the embargo reads as a pretext for war. It's the United States telling Japan to accept vassalage or face starvation, or fight if they dare. There can be only one answer to that, so why would the Americans claim to be surprised when Japan chose to fight? Hopefully this makes it all look a little less bizarre. I can see how each step on the path looked quite rational, especially given the cultural and educational and historical contexts. That being said, I officially still view Japan as an unjustified and horrific aggressor, and am glad that the world has generally moved away from colonialism compared to the past 300 years. One of my personal favorite exercises in alternate history is imagining that the navy and merchant marine factions were more organized and aggressive in the Japanese government in the interwar years, and overpowered the army faction, leading to a Japan committed to acquiring its needed resources via trade rather than conquest. One can imagine how this could lead to a strong trade partnership between a resource-rich but depression-stricken America, and a resource-poor but industrializing Japan. Ah, well. We're still such a young species.
Yet in Vietnam the US administration was so unimpressed with the infamous orieantal savagery they decided to send CIA to educate their allies in terror tactics. Incidentally 731 type things, only not even for science.
I was lucky enough to go to Japan multiple times on business for weeks at a time. A few trips took me to the region of Hiroshima, where I went to the Peace Memorial Museum a few times. I was surprised at how truthful they were in their culpability for their part in the war. They talked about the use of Korean women as concubines and men as slaves and how brutal their pre WWII history was. There's a Memorial to the Koreans who died during the bombing as well. I once met met an older gentleman, and he owned a restaurant that I frequented. He remembers the bombing raids when he was about 10. His dad, who played the accordion at the restaurant, fought in WWII. The owner once told me, "That was our father's and grandfather's war." His dad, who I'd always buy a short beer for (they don't accept tips), would come to my table and play something like Yankee Doodle Dandy for me with a smile. His kids were in US universities at that time, BTW. I experienced zero negativity during any of my stays in Japan. The Koreans do still hold a bit of a grudge on their Japanese neighbors. I've been there and learned very quickly, not to mention my like of Japan and its culture.
I remember reading a novel series(in chinese) that was set during the occupation of Japan in Malaysia and focused on the atrocities commited towards the chinese population there, my great grandparents generations. Bone chilling stories that make me question even if they were human. The audacity to play victim and say "American just randomly bombed us lol" pisses me off.
Honestly, the people of china have every right to be hostile towards the rest of the world. My mother in law is from Malaysia. Told me a story where as in her teens she had to hide one of her classmates at her home because she was pale and looked too chinese and they were rounding them up. I don't feel bad for what we did to Japan. I don't like the look on my MIL's face when she talks about those times. Makes my blood boil.
@@Mellow_Owl Mkay i get that the Japanese gov and to an extent some if its people are bad because they deny what Japan did to China, but really? The rest of the world?? Its true that China then was horrifically treated by Japan but now they are attempting to perpetuate the same violence to other people like the Uighur Muslims. I don't feel bad at what happened to Japan only because a land invasion by the Allies would have been way more deadly for both sides.
You can’t deny Japan contributed to western science and technology while Qing was backwards. Meiji period made East Asia progress, Korea modernized also very quickly because of Japanese influence. People like you simply fail to separate certain things, Japan was a democracy for most of the 1920s. Japan has established itself, and I consider them to be the Germans of East Asia, the work ethic and discipline are high, Japan always wants to keep up with the rest of the world. Japanese scientists from the 1890s to 1920s were at the same level as the German scientists and contributed greatly in the progress of medicine and other fields.
@@bodoor8172 No ones is denying that but what does that have to do with them raping China? And the Philippines, Hong Kong, and Korea? Are you implying that because they contributed to science they should get a pass?
I had dinner with Japanese student in the UK some years ago, he asked what the English thought of Japan and its people, So i said the young will think about Japanese horror films (popular at the time), technology, cars etc. The old will think about WWII and what happened to the troops who surrendered at Singapore. He had no idea what i was talking about and as i explained bits of WWII history he had the look on his face that i was lying. Being a Brit, my history is pointed out to me on occasion so i cant blame him to much for not knowing.
@@Tattletale-Delta American kids can't locate earth on a map of earth so please don't try to brag about world history. Your education system is a joke.
Pookie Yes, the Americans went for numbers while the Germans wanted to build the most superior equipment possible. Example the Tiger or Panzer tank vs the Sherman. The Nazis kill ratio was 10:1. Needless to say the American tank crews weren’t too happy about their odds but in the end the sheer numbers being thrown at Germany overwhelmed them.
@@MsZsc Well they had a great position on deafting the targeted countires but then dipshit japan was like ay let's bomb one of the strongest nations in world america. And america was neutral before that so the Axis just made a huge enemy and got fucked BC of it.
I always found it strange that in the US, we hear about the holocaust in Europe, but rarely about what happened in China, etc. during the same time. Or even Stalin in the USSR. Both of those scenarios killed far more than six million people.
what history class did you go to ? stalin is heavily taught about here in the u.s. and so is the nanjing massacre, you make it sound like we just ignore the mass culling of humans happening, must be one of those kids who slept during class then blamed the teacher for failing a test.
@@williamlebotschy2729 well then i guess about 35 percent of my highschool teaching wasnt deserved, its almost like people slept or skipped class so much that when things are brought up they dont know about them because they took the free education handed to them and spit on it.
First of all, everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations. Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons. Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it. They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war. Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites. After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense. His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people. People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
You Korean drama fabricated history recently. Vietnam got outraraged and Netflix banned it. You need to realize your country's media and national institution is propaganda media. Korean yonhap news shows warning message on RUclips
The Nanking Mas*acre is 100％ lie created by China and the US Democrats. They framed Japanese who did nothing wrong and executed them at the Tokyo Trials. Japan has tons of evidence, but the US is not interested in the truth. In Battle of China, the number of victims of the Nanking Mass*cre is 40,000, but now China claims 300,000. Why? Because the Nanking Massac*e is completely lie. The proof is that the Democrats, led by Biden, are still terrible Liars today.
I am a Japanese and I didn’t know that we did this kind of terrible inhuman experiments to living human. I can completely say that I’ve never been taught this, since I got into the university whose entrance exam is famous for its difficulty of national history. I cannot believe that actually happened. But now I know this is the real. I really wanna insist that Japanese government should provide the right textbook to make sure that all students can learn the accurate history. And most of Japanese don’t consume the information in English and that also makes our view really narrow. We really need to change. I definitely explain this video to my family and friends. Thank you
They're not going to tell the truth because the man most responsible for these crimes was Emperor Hirohito. For example, the man who was hung for the rape of Nanjing was General Matsui. But the man who commanded the rape was Prince Asaka, Hirohito's uncle by marriage. Here is the basic truth of prewar Japanese history. In the 1930's the Japanese military had basically taken over the government but the military was divided into 2 factions. The strike north faction, dominated by the army and the Choshu clan, wanted to attack the Soviet Union. The strike south faction, dominated by the navy and the Satsuma clan, wanted to attack the western colonial powers in the Pacific. Hirohito was basically the unofficial leader, (he led from behind the curtain as they say in Japan), of the strike south faction. When the war was over General MacArthur saved Hirohito from the hang man so that he could use him as a tool to build a more democratic and hopefully peaceful Japan. Several men were hung in his place, including General Matsui, and a cover story was put in place that said that the Emperor was a powerless figure head. This cover story is still taught in America today.
I’m Japanese too and I’m angry that they keep our real history a secret from us. Many Asians harbor some hate towards us, and the majority of us don’t even know the atrocities we did in those countries 🤦🏻♀️ truly truly embarrassing
i’m singaporean and in 2019, a group of japanese students came to my school and my class was supposed to tell them about singapore’s culture, diversity, etc but when it came to telling them about our history, our teachers told us not to say anything about the japanese occupation. i remember all we told them was “world war II happened then we had a merger with malaya but got kicked out and that’s how singapore gained independence”. kinda funny because almost our entire history revolves around ww2/the japanese occupation. the fact that we weren’t allowed to tell those students anything was really sad guys I was 13 then. and in my school we couldn't just not follow what the teachers tell us to do. life in singapore doesn't work that way
That's incredible that happened as recently as 2019! I guess the kids would have gone into complete shock and disbelief. Maybe the school just didn't want to mess with that kind of fall-out-dozens of kids yelling that you were lying to them?
@@115islandscompass6 the truth was japan invaded china , your soldier wont die if you din land your foot into china. Malaysia also innocent but you guys land your fucking foot at our land and kill our people
Having lived in Japan I can tell you there have been a few instances where the war was brought up in conversation with locals around. You could tell it made them very uncomfortable. One thing I’ve also noticed in my time here is that the Japanese people still hold prejudices against Chinese and Korean people. There are many other things here like their views on mental health and women’s health that I find backwards, but that’s another story. I love their culture but they are very flawed in their way of thinking still today. I can definitely understand why the Chinese and the people of the Koreas are still angry with the Japanese.
Prejudice is something you have against someone that you don't really know about. Japan, China & Korea have been "together" for hundreds of yrs, if not thousands. And we know them very well. I'm comfortable talking about WWII, by the way. And I'm glad you don't live in Japan anymore.
Could you perhaps tell me more of how the Japanese view is on Mental health and women's health? I'm quite curious now that you brought it up. Thank you!
I think it's mainly because their main exposure to news about Korea and China is "Korea doesn't like Japan" or "China doesn't like Japan" so they just don't like back, though it is exacerbated by right-wing spaces online like 5ch, which can sometimes turn into echo chambers. But on the popular culture front, there is much less prejudice, and both Chinese and Korean artists have blended in with Japanese seamlessly.
@@NordicSoldier Japanese view on mental health is mainly that they don't have a view because they don't talk about it, and their emphasis on being considerate for others over individual well-being means that they mainly view things like suicide as not mainly about someone in distress, but rather someone causing a nuisance because of making others need to clean their body up. The Japanese view on women is that their primary purpose is marriage. That is why on Japanese media, you often see jokes about them being soiled for marriage when anything slightly lewd happens, because that's partly based on what happens. And also women who aren't virgins can sometimes be thought of as unclean. Again, this is also often talked about as a joke, but the joke works because it has an undertone of something true in it.
It's not just liberal universities. Most colleges encourage debate. Anybody who has taken an online class can tell you that part of their grade comes from online discussion board posts and replies.
"The Japanese raped, pillaged, and murdered their way across China, and then America dropped a couple of atomic bombs on them and they suddenly discovered they were pacifists." (roughly paraphrased from somewhere I read once)
@@sipunks BS. The South lost the Civil War, but ever since then Southern historians have been writing their revisionist history about 'the Lost Cause'. Nothing to do with slavery; it was all about 'States' Rights', or 'tariffs', or whatever. And likewise the Japanese have been teaching their children their own revisionist history of WW2.
@@jeromemalenfant6622 I believe SI Punk's comment was actually intended to apply to *Charles Gru's statement,* which very much does smell of "victor bias" (not to mention gross oversimplification), regardless of anything that the Japanese did or didn't do during WWII. And just because there are specific instances where something sometimes does not happen a particular way does not mean it isn't still often true more generally.
@@foogod4237 My response was mostly an objection to the quote about victors writing history, which gets tossed around a lot and which, while probably accurate in ancient times when the losers generally got annihilated, is no longer valid in recent history. Now it's just a lazy way of attempting a rebuttal to something one doesn't like. I found Gru's statement to be a fairly accurate summary of how the Japanese behaved in WW2. But if the Japanese find that attitude inaccurate, nothing is stopping their historians from writing their own histories of Japan's actions in the war.
@@jeromemalenfant6622 Lincoln originally wanted the war to be about that, he didn't want to make the war about slavery because he feared doing so would fracture the two parts beyond fixing. That was until the Gettysburg Address.
I really like how he pointed out that Japan's political heritage is continuous from before WWII to today, unlike the other axis nations. Their inability to use a prior political regime as a scapegoat is definitely a huge reason why Japan's education differs so much from Germany's in their depiction of the war.
First of all, everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations. Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons. Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it. They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war. Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites. After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense. His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people. People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
The Nanking Mas*acre is 100％ lie created by China and the US Democrats. They framed Japanese who did nothing wrong and executed them at the Tokyo Trials. Japan has tons of evidence, but the US is not interested in the truth. In Battle of China, the number of victims of the Nanking Mass*cre is 40,000, but now China claims 300,000. Why? Because the Nanking Massac*e is completely lie. The proof is that the Democrats, led by Biden, are still terrible Liars today.
Japan never invaded Korea. During the Japanese rule, the life expectancy of the Korean peninsula increased by 20 years, the population doubled, and industrial production increased sixfold. Do you know that recently Korea fabricated the history of Vietnam and Netflix stopped from distributing it? Korea is a lying nation and Japan is suffered by them.
My wife is Chinese and members of her family were murdered by the japanese during the war and Her opinion on the dropping of nuclear bombs on japan is “GOOD BUT NOT ENOUGH” and I totally agree with that. They should be forced to educate their people about what they did and the fact that they don’t is a disgrace and an insult to the people they tortured and murdered.
I knew all this, and know this to be truth. Because my grandpa was in this war. He told me about all this in great detail. The Imperial army and Imperial Navy did not get along. So you can imagine how much more hatred he already had of them. He wanted to wait until I was an adult to explain the truth to me since I was his youngest grand child. I knew I had to really listen when he told me. He never talked about it much. He once lived in Kellogg Idaho in the US before the war when he played baseball. He moved back to Japan about in the late 1930s after he heard news about a need for aviators and he wanted to become a pilot. He retired in 1968 from the JASDF. He passed away in 2011 at 93.
He sounds like a good and honest man. Louis Zamperini an Olympian was captured after his B-25 which was on a search mission crashed in the pacific an spending 47/days floating at sea, was picked up by Japanese Sailors and transported to several different camps eventually I think winding up in Honshu. I hope I spelled that correctly. He had a Japanese Soldier SGT that beat him almost every day. When Japan surrendered he disappeared. Later to turn up after charges were dropped after about 8 years or so. Louis had returned stateside, his Olympic career ruined by the war, started drinking a lot, then after several years of this and his wife growing impatient with him, was walking down the street and saw this “Tent” revival and he was drawn to it. It was Billy Graham in Los Angeles and from that day on he was a new man, born again Christian. After several years he made an appeal to all those that imprisoned him and beat and tortured him to meet and forgive them. But that sergeant didn’t show. He still had hate in his heat and Louis let go of it and he lived a full life and passed at age 97. It was turned into a movie. I think it was Angela Joles first directing debuts as a director.
Imagine how Koreans/Chinese would feel whenever we see Japanese Government(correction, recent administration of Abe) ignoring, and sometimes even denying such damages. No offence to the people living in Japan, since they were "intentionally not taught" of such cruelty, but really, it is hard to understand.
Dracone1024 “we” did not. People who lived here in the past did. We ALL need to focus on the present and do what we can to understand the past but not dwell on it to the point of resentment. All we can do is fix today.
I was married to a Japanese lady for 25 years, I lived in Hokkaido for 15 years, and I can honestly say that most Japanese people will deny that Japan committed any War crimes. Japanese people are extremely loyal to their country and very loyal to each other. An interesting country to live in to say the least.
In the early 1990s, my family hosted a Japanese couple who were part of a 'exchange' program sponsored by Oncologists from the US and Japan. This couple had a very limited and somewhat perverse idea of Imperal Japan. Essentially, to them the war with the US started when the US 'invaded' Iwo Iwo Jima and Okinawa. It ended with the unforgivable attack by the US using nuclear weapons. They knew about Pedal Harbor, etc but thought that was all period US war propaganda. They had no idea we lived within 40 miles of Los Alamos where the bombs where built. We took them on a history tour there and the Bataan museum (NM National Guard was heavily represented in the 'death march') and showed my grandfather's WW2 Navy service in the Pacific records to them. Obviously, we also had fun, they were here for 2 weeks and part of this exchange was to learn the history and cultures of each nation. This couple was 1 generation removed from WW2. Ialways ensure to say Imperial Japan when talking about WW2. It was a different time, a different people. It does bother me that they essentially whitewash their negative history but it's more about us educating people on a cultural level and learning from them as well than trying to force something down their throats. We can also learn from them
For eight years I've lived in Japan, I built a school there and part of what I did was teach Japanese people Japanese history. The look of awe and amazement when they find out what their country did was profound. Most were saddened. Some got angry and one told me I was a Chinese propaganda agent.
@@dac545j do you even know what rural japan is? Have you ever been in japan? I have... and even if tokyo is huge you'd be surprised how many areas look like ghost towns.
The concept of honor is Japanese culture isn't the same as in the west. It was more about loyalty to your superiors, family, and country. They were a lot of things in WW2, but the Japanese were certainly loyal.
When the Tohoku Earthquake and Tsunami hit, I watched Japanese news for about a month. One thing that kept popping up was the consistent use of the phrase "the greatest natural disaster since WWII". Which I found extremely odd....it was as if Japan viewed WWII like a particularly nasty typhoon.
Historically, as a disaster, WWII was a sustained Typhoon from the battle of Midway until the storm came ashore in August of '45 over Hiroshima. The natural disaster reference simply underscores the denial. Japan earned every loss, human and material, it suffered and have never acknowledged as the Germans have their errors.
@@near--zero Fusion is part of nature, the engine of stars. Fission is the human concoction, an un-natural concentration of radioactive isotopes of uranium of great purity.
Yep, this is it. Germany has faced what they did; their prime minister went to Warsaw and knelt asking for forgiveness. Healing has happened. The Japanese of today don't even know why people are mad at them.
@@jayteegamble thats a load of bull no matter much you apologizes some people won't forgive time to move on forced on what happening now and the future
I've never seen any healing. I've seen forgiveness as the gift to the victim by the victim. But it also must be said: We do not visit upon the sons the sins of their fathers. The opposite of what the Buybull says.
@Skelebore MIND BLOWN. I doubt that Oda would allude to this though since Japan is very strict with regards to censoring such issues vs. Japan. BUT, if he ever were to do this, he'd really be GOda in my book.
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I skipped a heartbeat when you said Pleistocene epoch😂😂😂
Very informative video though. Thank you and congratulations to you and your team.
@Jonathan Perry You "would" probably be extremely racist too if having a gigantic military base filled with foreigners who regularly cause general disorder and commit crimes with near impunity.
You know, a bit like some near for example the Mexican border are a bit or extremely racist..
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When I studied Japanese in college I had several Japanese friends. They told me America only dropped the atomic bomb on Japan and not Germany because of racism. When I told them the atomic bomb wasn’t successfully tested until after Germany surrendered, they had a rather shocked look on their faces.
We got knowledge how to build the bomb from the Germans. German Scientists and Engineers were involved in developing the atomic bomb. Both the United States and Soviet Unions space programs used German scientists.
Ever try surrendering. Ask them if they think we would have dropped the bomb if they had surrendered.
@@hydrolito The german scientist what helped to develop the A Bombs escaped Germany before the war, but it took the US more than a couple of years to develop the Bombs, the first test was done in July 1945, few months after Germany surrendered.
@@mgway4661 especially the 2nd bomb. After the 1st one, the Japanese was still stubborn as fuck and didn't want to surrender.
Japanese continues to teach (or not teach) their kids even today what they have been programmed to teach them by the postwar occupation force(s) of Japan. So, you will find the accurate understanding and answer to this question by referring to the historical records on War Guilt Program of the occupation force(s).
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As for atomic bombs, I've read/seen in several documentaries that started to pop up on the media in the past a few decades that: they used to call it "new weapon (of mass destruction)" towards the end of the war; the Japanese military R&D was developing it also, until the emperor Hirohito had been notified of its project and ordered immediately to halt its development, as he had feared the total destruction of Japan and the world (mankind) if the war was to escalate to using such weapon.
I lived in Japan for a few years in the mid 90’s and I was stunned at how many Japanese had no idea of what transpired during WW2. Never mind covering up atrocities, everyone does that, but they really were taught that they were just going about their own business when suddenly America attacked them. This didn’t really start changing until the internet became widely available.
I took a Japanese woman to see _Pearl Harbor_ back when it was released. She was mystified by the scenes of Yamamoto and his staff planning the attack, and asked me what they were doing. Between my terrible Japanese and her better but still not perfect English I came to understand that she had the impression that _America_ attacked _Japan_ and couldn't square that with the idea of Japan striking the first blow or even planning it. I don't know how she ever reconciled her cognitive dissonance.
@@akizeta Sadly, most people never do. They just reject any truth that's too uncomfortable.
That is just like the Germans from World War 2. My Great Grandma and Grandma didn’t know the truth about what happened to the Jews until they came to America in 1956. They came from Germany and didn’t know the horrors of what happened because the Nazi’s didn’t exactly advertise what they were doing. Many Germans just didn’t know.
I had a Japanese friend in college who grew up in Japan. His knowledge of his own country’s involvement in the war seemed incredibly limited. I get that it that the atrocities weren’t common knowledge but surely the imperial expansion wasn’t a secret? I just couldn’t believe that the Japanese people had no idea that their military expanded all over Asia all those years. I somehow don’t see a country that is proud of its military accomplishments hiding it from its people. So if the people knew of the military expansion, why would it be a surprise to learn that their military did terrible things, including taking preemptive action? In the end, I attribute the ignorance to a lack of critical thinking. If you don’t want to know, you’ll keep yourself from finding out the information, even if you’re in a place of higher learning.
How much dose Internet helps now? I'm curious...
Japan: We were having a picnic in China, and all over the Pacific. Then for some reason the Americans nuked us.
Something Cool yeah because nothing says “please reconsider opening up your food factories” like Pearl Harbor and taking over the world with your best bud Hitler, yeah poor japan.
@@somethingcool9010 I had breakfast with a survivor of the Bataan death march we left them of easy.
@@somethingcool9010 they where closed for a reson. what about 2 decades of shenanigans in china? about promisses to stop and then breaking the promises over and over again. US didnt shut down the factories and oil trade out of the blue. What do you expect US to do? nothing? and what was Japans response? getting their shit together? no, they joined nazis and attacked.
Something Cool oh yeah, because the Japanese were totally not using the American resources to invade China and massacre its population.
America: We were having a good time on our boats and for no reason Japan attacked us and sank us!
When I was living in Japan, a friendly clothing-shop owner asked me while doing small talk where I came from. "Germany", I answered. He brightened, smiled, told me Germany is a great country and if I knew that Japan and Germany were war-time friends? He told me what a strong leader Hitler was, and proudly showed me a Nazi-uniform replica hat in his (otherwise normal) clothing shop. He couldn't understand, why I didn't want to buy it?? I tried to explain as politely as possible that he shouldn't sell stuff like that, especially to Germans, that swastika symbols were illegal in Germany and that Hitler was a "really bad man". He was genuinely confused. He never learned in school about the "bad stuff" of Nazi-Germany and was terribly sorry, apologising about the Nazi hat.
I saw him again a few weeks later when I was in the area. He recognised me and told me that, after going home that day he googled Hitler and the Nazi regime. He was shocked about what he found and apoligised again about not knowing about that stuff before.
You have an occupied slave mentality, regurgitating the propaganda forced down your throat in indoctrination camps called public school. Then you go spread your cultural rot in a foreign country where you have no right to. What makes you think you can impose your imperial elitist ideologies to foreigners that you clearly look down on? Youre an unbeknownst occupying agent dupe
So, he had access to the internet the whole time and it wasn't until your brave act of humility that he decided to "Google" everything? I smell BS.
@@Zabi-S No, he seemed to just not had any particular interesst in the topic before and he told me they didn't really talk about it in school, therefore, he only knew some (very) basic things about it. Why get informed about stuff you have no connection or interest in the topic? Do you inform yourself and google stuff about topics you don't have interest or some reason to know more about it? I don't. I also had the feeling that of course the nice things he said about Hitler was more in order to sell this hat, talking nice about my country and its former leader, so I would buy.
And then everyone clapped.
@@riversong9333but why did he have the hat? Go to buy something like that and you will quickly see what comes up..
I clearly remember what a Chinese exchange student told me about Japanese and American involvement in world war two, he said that while America is now a rival of china he is grateful to the US for them having avenged the atrocities committed on China by Japan when China was too weak to get it's own justice.
Something I wish they’d remember. Just as Americans need to remember how many Soviet citizens died fighting the Germans. I’m not sure where historians land on this issue but I’ve heard WW II could not have been won just by America getting into it. Let there be no mistake Stalin gave his people no choice in the matter but the citizens of the USSR did fight with patriotism as well. After all they were invaded.
@@brentbeacham9691 the US could have won, but it would have been either America paying the price in blood, or they would have had to use nuclear weapons on germany, a lot of them.
Given china's rise to power since then and their general belligerence towards the west. I'm pretty surprised they never retaliated.
@@duitk problem is most of the nuclear bomb scientists were german
@@kurtaaron4110 asides From einstein name me the rest of the German scientists that worked on the American nuclear bomb.
as a german, im very proud of the german education system and that in school they teach what genuinely happened because i think you should always remember what your ancestors did wrong to learn out of those mistakes because our generation has the responsibility to not let history repeat itself
Everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations.
Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons.
Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it.
They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war.
Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites.
After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense.
His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people.
People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
I feel the German model education should be used in every country around the world to expose every country’s war crime in order for everyone to be educated and smart enough to prevent future war crimes
@@5552-d8b I never agree with Nazi Hitler, but it is also true that German women were raped and otherwise tormented by Jews. It is strange that only defeated countries such as Germany and Japan are blamed today. In other words, in Churchill's words, history is made by the victorious nations.
Defeated countries had no right to speak anything.
The atomic bombing by the U.S. is a holocaust comparable to that of Germany, Germany historian said so.
@@5552-d8b yesss
Germany: we have committed countless attrocities and shall now make laws to be better, as well as pay reperations. (Edit, was repititions as a typo)
Italy and Russia: we joined the allies and were forgiven.
Japan: there was no war is ba sing se
I love that comment lol
This, this is gold.
It’s a long long way to ba sing se
Please note I suck at spelling
In fairness I’m pretty sure Germany was forced to admit and teach it. Japan never had that pressure put on them.
pay repetitions? O_o
My wife is a Filipina. I have been to the Philippines four times. 400,000 of their civilians and soldiers were killed in 3 years. They will never forget.
We wont forget. But bygones be bygones. Everyone love japanese maids and anime now xD
Don't forget that Spain and America colonized the country and stole its resources, leaving many people starving.
@@harrellt1405 The guilty generation is also close to dying out now. Their decendants have a responsibility to educate themselves on the crimes of their forefathers, but they are not to blame themselves.
a friend of mine spent a couple of years as an exchange teacher in Japan, she said the school she taught at they teach this: "Japan was backed into a corner by western colonialism and unreasonable trade restrictions and the only course was to fight, despite Japan's superior culture, superior technology and superior warriors Japan could not match the US's superior manufacturing capability and eventually the war did not go favourably" that's it, that's all they taught, no mention of the invasion of China, no mention of their imperialism and conquering of other nations, no mention of atrocities or war crimes
Maybe, just maybe they have an excuse vs the west.
Not vs the other asian states they subjugated though. Especially korea.
@@thebravegallade731 Korea was conquered way before ww2.
Also the trade restrictions were imposed after Japan started invading other countries.
Well there was nothing really unique about heir expansion pre-WWI as the other imperial powers were equally guilty of this. Much like the Italians there was resentment over the way they had been treated as allies after WWI. None if their territorial claims were acknowledged and they were forced to keep a smaller navy than the US and Britain. So in that respect they may feel justified in their expansionism. Nothing justifies the atrocities committed though.
Seems pretty accurate. More accurate than the American narrative.
@colin minhinnick I don't disagree but it is true that the Italians perceived they had been slighted. So did Japan. Their imperial sentiment was out of time with the west but that is no surprise either considering they weren't heavily involved in the conflict. WWI saw an end to the Ottoman, Russian, German and Austro-Hungarian Empires. The British and French had suffered huge losses and so focused more on the home front than their colonies. Japan was different because its position was strengthened by WWI and so imperial sentiment was still strong.
20 years ago my new Japanese wife and I were watching the movie “Pearl Harbor.” She honestly thought it was totally fictional and was shocked to learn that the Japanese had actually attacked the US. She said the Japanese schools never taught anything about the war that portrayed them as aggressors.
The US did worse nuking 2 major Japanese city's that should have been a war crime
@@ReubenPastrami so what has Ben Affleck ever done to you personally, I'm just curious?
Doesn't surprise me in the least.
@@ReubenPastrami Aflec was the bomb in Phantoms yo
@@ReubenPastrami
I dislike Ben Affleck too 🤣. Him and J Lo, which coincidentally are married again… horrible actors
I asked a Japanese friend what he thought about the war in the Pacific. He only replied "Victors write the history of war". That's all I really needed to know. It really sounds like Japan continues to downplay what happened during the war while Germany has fully owned what happened and moved on. Japan likewise could be a fully rehabilitated nation but it simply refuses to do so.
On the contrary it's Germany that has failed to move on and is still paralysed by Selbsthass (self hate). Japan has no such obsession.
Wait how can he downplay it And claim history was written by victors? Would that imply he knows the history? And how arent they rehabilitated? The havent had a war in almost 80 years
@@eldavid8774 No, he meant that American wrote the history books to make Japan look bad.
Leggo My Ego
Doesnt that contradict the video?, how can a foreign agent write books in a sistem of goverment aproval like japan? I think you might be a bit confused yourself buddy
@@eldavid8774 The entire construction of new japan was after a masterplan that would maintain western (US) control. Did you not listen to what was said in the video? The provisional administration could have done things differently but chose not to alter too much to keep the loyalty structure in place. Even letting actual leaders and war criminals off to do so.
This is nothing strange however. Even with Germany some got of lightly if they could be helpful to the new administration, ot beneficial to the victory powers in some way. Like getting to the Moon. Or incidentally, developing atomic weapons.
I did a trip to Bataan a few years ago. They have a museum where the American-Filipino’s surrendered. In the museum they have pictures of what the Japanese’s did to the civilian population in Manila when it fell. One picture was of women with her cloths half ripped off and her breast cut off. We were told by the administer that a Japanese student broke down to tears when he saw that. He had know idea of the atrocity his country had done to the Filipino people.
I met a man 40 years ago who was a survivor of the Bataan death march. The incredible story had me in tears. God bless this man, he had passed many years ago. It is horrifying what people can do to other people. We would not treat animals this way.
The Japanese occupation of the Philippines is just sad.
Hearing from the stories of my grandparents just saddens me
What that Japanese student discovered was only the tip of the iceberg, I wonder how'd she react when she eventually learnt that there were far more victims who suffered as a result of the atrocity and brutality of the Imperial Japanese Army during their occupations in the Asian countries...
I attended college with a large Asian population in the student body. A few of the Japanese students had no idea what happened leading up to the war. As far as they knew, Japan was minding its business and America attacked them. One Japanese guy I knew became obsessed with WWII because he was never taught much about it. He had never heard of Pearl Harbor. It really had a profound effect on him.
These days, students in general are ignorant of history. 😕 Progressive are in charge of education, and history isn’t important to progressives.
Brainwashing at its finest. Wait until he finds out what Japan did to the Chinese and Koreans
I bet
Well when you learn a huge part of history was hidden from you.. I think many of us would react the same
@@chrisortiz8072 right. I should have also pointed out this was back in 1990.
Japan’s denial of their war atrocities is straight up shameful. Knowing Better (another RUclips channel) has another very good video on the subject.
Should see all the angry Japanese commenting below the video, it's hilarious. Some even gave out death threats.
Link to the other utube channel?
ruclips.net/video/lnAC-Y9p_sY/видео.html
@@CrayCow the Japanese giving out death threats? How? Using a gun? They can't even smell one in Japan
Meanwhile the U.S. doesn't teach about things we've done to our own people most of the time.
Back in 1990 I was a 20 year old on my first overseas trip. Went to Honolulu and to see the Pearl Harbour memorial. The coach we went on was chock full of Japanese tourists. I had a bit of downtime with the driver after the visit and asked him how does it feel to him to take Japanese people to this place? He said, long story short this is the first time they learn about what happened, what Japan was involved in and its a real eye opener for them. They just don't learn it at home.
because japan is ashamed, so they keep it all on the downlow. asians are obsessed w/'face', ie their reputation and how others perceive them
Hope they are educated on that and education will prevent future genocides.
@@donsevcik4317 future generations tends to forget their predecessors deeds like this, especially if thats not being talked about load
@@_____J______ The government is doing a bad job at educating its people.
@@cloudbuster77 maintain their pride and dignity*
I'm from Singapore, and we are conscripted to serve 2 years in the army. When telling that to a Japanese friend, he asked why bother who will attack Singapore?
I told him Japan did and killed many civilians indiscriminately.
He was in disbelief. I told him the whole world know it and knows that Japan is whitewashing it. Send him some articles. Unfortunately, he never spoke to me again
Yeap. It goes to show you something that there's something wrong with that country. 😑
😂😂
@@americanliberal09that's why Japan is facing Karma and will send itself into History that failed
@@jsoe81657 Oh. I see.
Guys... The war was 80 years ago. Nobody cares anymore and it's not possible it happens again. And yes I know the meme about those who forget history but it's a different time now.
china, korea: yeah we just want you to apologize
Japan: we're sorry that you feel like you need an apology
Chad attitude right there lmao.
It was a Rick & Morty quote. Season 3, Episode 9, "The ABCs of Beth."
Europeans do the same thing when it comes to colonialism excerpt their favorite reply is iT wAs nOrMal tHeN
@@hueyfreeman1983 you mean Britain and France right (edit: also Spain, Portugal, Belgium, the Netherlands, , and Italy)
@@gx_soloman6691 All countries that had colonies but mainly those two
My grandparents went to Japan about 10 years ago as part of a tour group. My step grandma's father served in the Marines in the Pacific during WWII and witnessed atrocities. They went to Hiroshima and the tour guide presented the atomic bomb as the peaceful people of Japan were randomly attacked by the horrible Americans. When my step grandma told her about stories she heard about Japanese soldiers, the tour guide told her to leave. She believed it was lies made to make Japan look bad because Americans are jealous of Japan's success. This was someone leading tour groups!
Lmfao if I was on that tour I'd been like "they don't teach pearl harbor here, because in America we have the philosophy called "GET BACK GANG"
Actual truth is rarely told.
Marketing, propaganda, misinformation, disinformation which usually leads to discrimination, is not unique to Japan and Japanese culture, it's everywhere. Unfortunately, Japanese culture takes a dim view of dishonorable behavior. To acknowledge well documented Japanese atrocities commited during WW2 leads to a condition of cognitive dissonance. Redirecting blame, portraying Japan as the victim of American aggression is their way of dealing with their dilemma.
No, it isn’t, Nigel. They really don’t know and the ignorance continues. A bomb had more impact.
Dads Marine engineer company rebuilt the infrastructure of Hiroshima
This would be a good series. How do ---- teach about WW2. All the participants
@UCo1OEN5udxXOWquC2W8D7gg I believe that video was already done
He did Germany a couple weeks ago
Like how American schools teach us the Western front won the war when the Soviets were already well on their way to Berlin
@@RTDice11 yea. Thats why I would like to see all the countries because I liked this video and the one on Germany. Being a 40 year old American we were not taught anything about the Soviets being part of the end of the war.
I wonder how it is taught in countries that were mostly not involved. Like ones in South America and southern part of Africa.
While serving in the US Air Force my wife and I hosted Japanese foreign exchange students. One day, while exploring a nearby Discovery Store, one teenage girl we were hosting asked me why a framed picture on the wall for sale was of any importance. I looked at the picture and it was of the aircrew standing in front of the Enola Gay. I had to tell her why, from our perspective, the mission of the Enola Gay was so wonderful and saved American AND Japanese lives. It was hard to see the look on her face. She went on to explain that it was a horrific attack but she understood it. She also told us that the Americans had actually dropped leaflets over the cities warning people to leave but the Japanese government downplayed it and reassured everyone they were safe. Interesting side note: the fire bombing of Tokyo in June had a higher death toll and was more horrific than the Atom bombs. It just didn’t have the shock value.
that's because less then one gram of the material actually had fission
@@MizTheDonGargon Huh? Amount of fissable material has nothing to do with the fire bombing deaths in Tokyo and elsewhere.
@frequentlycynical642 Read more carefully...I was responding to when he said the Tokyo Fire Bombings had a higher death toll than the atomic bombs that were dropped.
@@MizTheDonGargon And they did.
America did actually try and reduce civilization deaths and gave work before the attack (the pamplets) sounds like a very bright young lady who understood what America did.
* Opens up japanese history book *
1. Prehistory
2. Edo Period
3. End of Isolationism
4. 1900s-1930s
5. 1950s-1990s
6. Recent Years
Is the joke supposed to be that the 1940’s were out?
@@furryslayer8688 Obviously
Rafurbi Here is a fact. I have here in my hands by far the most popularly used textbook for high schoolers on the Japanese history(has a 60% share, while the 2nd has just a 10%)and it tells the history which lies between the beginning of WW2 until the end of the 1940s for more then 30 pages(the entire history is treated for 407 pages). It is true that, speaking from my experience as a native Japanese, most of the Japanese history classes in the compulsory education are deficient on this topic and some of them are just complete disaster. But orthodox historians at least put in the textbook the fact about occupation, about comfort women and about major genocide of Chinese and Korean done by Japanese soldiers and civilians. The real problem is not texts, but systems, teachers, and the general tendency towards historical denial in mentality of Japanese.
wait a minute
@@AimForMyHead81. Well I couldn’t tell because I thought it might’ve been a typo or something
Yeah... Combining lack of understanding with a massive victim complex over the atomic bombs, means that a lotta people in Japan act like acknowledging Korean or Chinese suffering somehow discounts Japan's suffering. And it also normalizes all the atrocities committed with the broad brush excuse of "it was wartime." Add that Yasukuni nonsense as the garnish on top, and you get a country full of people who cannot understand why their neighbors are still mad. I've lived in Japan for a number of years now, and it still makes me facepalm.
Who's Yasukuni and what did that person do?
That seems hypocritical comming from a western person in these days
@@eldavid8774 why's that? Nothing was said about the allies being innocent.
@@eldavid8774 dude
Duane Samuelson i mean isnt it quite weird?why US flags keep getting burned in the middle east, why trump piñatas are made in México ,why african nations live in poverty, why minorities are killed by the policy,why do armed militias keep getting western weapons, why is the duro war still going even though it has made things worse ,why leaders of third world nations keep getting killed by western forces only to make situations worse, these things keep hapening yet no western leader knows why, it has happened before yet they keeping doing the same things as before, miss me with tha eurocentric sense of superiority, the world facepalms And rolls their eyes everytime you fuck up again And yet dont understand why the rest of the world hates you
I lived in Japan for 5 years from 2008 - 2013 and many to this day don't even realize how bad imperial japan treated other countries during wartime. Very eye opening.
The most important fact about understanding Pearl Harbor is Kermit Tyler and the US radar signal that picked up the Japanese planes coming Check here his and the entire WW2 story : ruclips.net/video/toJQIuPRJrU/видео.html
In 1990, I was teaching at a small school in CT that had Korean and Japanese students. In one class, I had a student on the Roster as Myung, which is a Korean name. I said hello in Korean and he looked at me like I was crazy. Very insulted, he said he was Japanese. I replied that I had made the mistake based on his Korean name, which he flat-out denied was anything but Japanese. I let it drop, but later heard that he had complained to his family. His grandmother confirmed she had been a comfort woman, and that he was part Korean, his father a child of Japanese rapists. That brought out that his mother was probably also the child of a comfort woman, though his maternal grandmother had passed away some time before. Myung later told me that all of his Japanese friends wound up shunning him over it.
Occasionally, Asian kids would bring their textbooks to use as reference materials. The math and science books were pretty good, but the history books were exactly as you said - the Japanese very thin on WW2, and the Korean and Chinese ones full of stories from the time. The Japanese kids would be angry about the "false history" from the time, like the Bataan Death March mentioned in Zinn, but they quickly realized that ther was a lot missing from their history books.
CT ? People don't automatically know your abbreviations.
@@briantitchener4829 Connecticut, USA
My parents are Korean and I asked them why they hated Japan so much. They spent like 30 mins naming atrocities and told me not to watch anime because the Japanese would put subliminal messaging in it to make it seem like they were victims.
Tbf most anime I watch arent even based in japan, and if anything they are very anti war XD
Yeahhhh my mom felt that from Hetalia-- that anime def. does make it seem like the axis powers were "not that bad"...........LOL they show Germany of that time as "good". I mean history/countries/culture is more complicated than a single anime character can portray so..... I tried to just let it go- but my mom def. hated it STRONGLY. Actually I'm sure Korea hated it, hence their character was removed. But my mom wasn't against anime like Inuyasha which was more like folk tale like. (She enjoyed watching it with me). But I feel like most Asian countries would not be as bitter if Japan had made an official apologies earlier in history....and approached it more like Germany did. My mom and I can understand some Japanese, so we got to experience awkward moments with some Japanese adults that came to our house..... I remember my Japanese's friends dad drinking a bit too much at a party my mom hosted for my friends and their parents, (4 friends and 4 set of parents). The Japanese dad started muttering about how low Korea was and how he hated working here with lower class people to the other Japanese dad that looked quite nervous. Both mothers looked clearly uncomfortable too. He also brought up how much he hated his daughter was best friends with a halfy girl (aka me). I guess its similar to how white millennials feel when their dad calls his/her black friend inappropriate nicknames/ or shows his biases...... I'm sure not all Japanese people think this way... but you know how the US voted trump? I'm just saying wrong thinking is more prevalent that one might expect hahhaaha. LOL sorry long rant but made me reflect on how I grew up. (edit spelling)
@@marching27 eh, hetalia feels like its very much obvious satire that knows it isnt taking itself seriously to me at least, but idk :O
@@gageriddle1681 yeah, it is pretty funny, but it also reflects how little, the Japanese public learnt about their part in WW2, a lack of respect/understanding towards the level of atrocities they took part in is kinda, hard to ignore I think..... It really contrasts with their victimization persona that is taken about the nuclear bomb that took place in Hiroshima and Nagasaki... which I do not take lightly, and think of as horrific events. But I also had fun watching hetalia when I was younger, and helped draw fan fic.... but the more I learnt about actual history the more I was like-- ehhh;;;;; maybe not the best move on Japan's part.... Cuz hetalia was targeted for younger audiences as a fun way to teach history....... but as a whole I think its important to just respect one another, and there is no need to hate on modern day Japanese people...... but like Germany, learning one's history is important... like how I wish in America, learning more in depth on how the natives were treated is important......
But you really can't blame the Japanese citizens for their ignorant about their own history. The way to help them realize their history is to teach about it. I'm an Anime and Manga lover myself despite my country (Philippines) being one of the countries nearly destroyed by the cruelty of Japanese Empire that time. But, why is philippine citizens still welcomes Japanese Nationals enter our borders without a sense of despite to them? It is because we were educated that It is the Government's Fault and not the citizens of the country they also suffered losses and even innocent lives who doesn't want war at all. In the end, no one actually wins for there are always losses. It really is to education that this ignorance will be dealt. Not only in Japan but also in the other countries such as S.Korea, China, Philippines.
As an American I know we don’t love to admit fault. But as a resident of Japan and former school teacher, I got in trouble for talking about “pearl harbor” which didn’t happen.... and I recently talked to my partner about Unit 731 and then she had nightmares because she never heard about it. At least her grandfather said “we were not good to China” without detail.
Yeah, I get it must be really fucking tough to discover all that shit while there are still some veterans alive.
Imagine that you discover your loved grandfather participated in the atrocities... Must be the most horrible of shocks. I won't be surprised if many of them discovered it now in the internet era but are in complete denial.
Many Germans have come to terms with the fact that their family members were high ranking SS officers, so I know the Japanese people can do it too. But it's not an easy thing to do. 80 or so years is basically yesterday in the scale of history...
@@DonVigaDeFierro I've never met a Japanese person who knows what unit 731 is. But they deny it when I ask or they look it up and also decide I'm a bad person for telling them about it.
I can't imagine a future where japan takes the approach to history that Germany did. But I do agree that it's not an easy history to confront.
Slavery is much older in the usa and many Americans still struggle to accept that and how bad it was.
@@gregorybreen7705 Slavery isn't in living memory. Also, Most Americans even white Americans aren't even descended from people who were Americans at the time of slavery. It's not exactly comparable.
@@eodyn7 I think you need to study history closer. Hahaha
I spent 4 years of university in north Carolina hearing about how the south will rise again.
@@robbiddlecombe8392 I'm form new york, we are taught the same.
I went to university from 2010 to 2015 in wester north Carolina, they learned.... other stuff....
I visited Pearl Harbor while in Hawaii on our honeymoon. Before the tour, there was a short historical film about what lead to the attack and the consequences. There were many Japanese tourists there, and they were literally horrified. They had no idea of the history of the war, and looked literally sick at what they were seeing.
I mean imagine going to japan for a tour on a random base that’s important to the locals and finding out for the first time America had slavery. You would be calling a lot of people to confirm and spread the news. “Like wtf do you mean we had slaves?!”
@@JL_Lux Fortunately in America, we do teach that Slavery was a very big deal. For better or worse, it's a big part of our history. The crux of the story is the Japanese try to stay ignorant on a lot of facets of their pre-WW2 history.
You toured Pearl Harbor on your honeymoon? That's a heavy metal honeymoon
@@717UT Well, we were in Hawaii for a week on a cruise ship, and knew we probably wouldn’t be back. It was one of the side trips provided with the cruise, and the weather was awful, so beaches really weren’t an option. Been married 30 years in August, so it worked out okay.
@@Synthetic-Rabbit Well, I’m not sure that’s true anymore, really. Many districts have to stay away from that topic now. Can’t make anyone uncomfortable with American history.
During the invasion, Japanese army dropped bacteria bombs in my hometown Quzhou (if you watched the movie Midway, it’s in there) and my grandmother as a kid was effected by it and since had a severe skin problem on her legs, which got passed down to my father and maybe me. It’s a symptom that makes your skins on the leg become fish scales like and very itchy. And I know that there are many many more people who are still living with the aftermath of their war crimes.
I'm not a doctor but I do know that what you have is called Psoriasis which is a genetic condition, which explains why multiple generations of your family have it. What's happening is that your immune system is overactive and is attacking your skin as a result. There's no cure but your symptoms can be managed, I had a girlfriend who had it and these are some of the things that helped her.
Soaking in a warm (but not hot) bath with sea salt in it for 15 minutes helps reduce the itching and inflammation, direct sunlight helped reduce areas that were affected and do what you can to relieve stress.
Maybe you already know everything I just told you, either way I hope that information helped.
You’re insinuating that your grandmother passed along a bacterial infection to her offspring, and they passed it to their offspring. Hate to burst your bubble or change how you tell your life story, but that’s not possible. It’s possible that she was affected by a bio-weapon. It’s possible she had a genetic trait that passed on. But it’s not possible for a bacterial infection from a bio-weapon to turn into a hereditary condition lol
My grandmother's uncle was a P.O.W. captive in a Japanese camp. He never talked about the war but my grandma relayed to me one story. His fellow prisoner was starving to death so my great great uncle swiped a melon rind (like a cantaloupe rind) that the soldiers had discarded from under a fence to give his starving friend to eat. Soldiers caught him and knocked his teeth out with a rifle butt and beat him. He was eventually rescued, weighed 90 pounds, looked like a crippled old man in his 20s, and never talked about the war except a small handful of times. Died in his early 40s.
Jesus
How old were you when your grandpa died?
@@tonygameaddict_1168 The POW was my grandma's uncle. He died seven years before i was born. I only have the secondhand story from my grandma who died a few years ago.
@@skriabinfly Jesus, dude. I'm so sorry. I had a great grandfather who served in Europe, and he was fortunate enough to never be taken prisoner by the Nazis. Ngl, it's sometimes a real shock to realize just how lucky I was that he survived the war and died instesd from a bad Florida hospital when I was 5. My best friend had a great uncle that I'm pretty sure died at Iwo Jima. I'm truly sorry that happened to your family. That definitely can't be the most fun story to tell.
One of my dad’s friends was a POW in Germany during WWII. He was shot down over occupied France in 1943 and spent 2 years in a prison camp. He didn’t have a single good thing to say about his captors. Even at that, he was probably treated better than the POWs held by Japan. Surrender was seen as weakness to the Japanese and they treated people who surrendered accordingly.
Axis Lost:
Hitler: Shot him self
Mussolini: hanged to death
Hirohito: Vacation in US and Went to Disney Land
Kishi Nobusuke(A-level war criminal) became the prime minister after WWII, his son was congress man but died before national election, his grandson Abe Shinzo became prime minister , so did his relative Aso Taro.
Hitler lived
@@ML-kj3fr o
@@mythrindiir1463 um... source???
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@@ML-kj3fr Japan's wartime criminals continue to be revered and memorialized in the Yasukuni Shrine to this day. In my last visit to Japan (2019), I still saw the wartime rising sun flag in one of its museums, proudly displayed, together with a recorded interview of an old Taiwanese couple, stating that Japan helped educate them during the war. Though the account may be true, the deliberate one-sided representation of the war continues in Japan to this day.
My wife is Japanese from Japan. They do not mention the rape of Nanking, they do not mention the empire aggression they wanted, they glance over Pearl Harbor, but they sure do talk about the atom bombs and fire bombing of the cities.
It’s sanitized history.
America, France, and England invaded.
@@ゴリラゴリラ-v1sI just farted
@@ゴリラゴリラ-v1s ngl but England was also not good 😂 it invaded almost every single country in the world nd committed genocide in India and Africa
Don't worry it's sanitized history on the other side too
@@daphenomenalz4100 Imperial Japan is by far the most barbaric and blood thirsty nation from contemporary history. Nanjing is the worst thing I've ever read about it. At least other countries recognize their faults and teach about them. Japan pretends like it didn't happen.
Seriously, take a deep-dive into the "Rape of Nanjing" and it'll make your stomach turn. Throwing babies in pots of boiling water was the cherry-on-top. This was only 80 years ago.
Next time anyone visits Japan, try visiting history museums. I encourage you to do a Google translate on the alot of the Japanese descriptions. You will notice that there's a difference in what's written in Japanese vs what's written in English
Its the damn truth, I hated the Hiroshima museum. Went with a Japanese speaking American friends and we nearly got kicked out for laughing at their version of events.
@@thelradame5508same I visited the atomic museum
in Hiroshima this summer. So conveniently vague. It makes me angry: no one is guilty of the crimes of their ancestors (I mean shit I’m German-English I have to believe that right) but we sure as shit should make sure we don’t replicate them. How can you do that when you ignore your own history? Sigh.
@@georgia4111 Couldn’t have put that much better myself.
@@georgia4111
German-English 💀
One's the school bully in middle school that tried to be the Highschool Bully
The others fucking DoomGuy
My great grandfather was chosen to be executed by the Nippon soldiers during the SookChing operation.
But while being transported to the execution location (most likely Changi beach) he took the opportunity to jump out of the truck that he was being transported on and hid in the forest before sneaking back home after the operation ended.
He was soooo proud of his escape that he constantly bragged about it to my mother and my uncle and aunts
I would too
Similar as my grandpa. He was a civilian by then and was kidnapped to be sent to Japan as a slave labour, but he somehow managed to escaped before being sent out (my grandma said he was jumping down from a cliff and rolled into woods and bushes) and survived from the war.
@@KarlXiao18 ooo which country was that
@@cannonf_odder3041 China
Your g-grandfather sounds like a chad
As one of the country heavily affected by the Japanese occupation, we still learn at school about all the atrocities that their army did in our countries. The kidnapping of innocent locals, the massacre, mostly those with Chinese descent, the rapes and the enslavement of men, usually the Malay and British army that they caught to build train railways etc etc. someone should make a documentary about their war crime in Japanese language and spread it to the people.
I believe there is already one called the rape of Nanking.
If the book “Rape Of Nanking” could be translated and distributed that would be a start. But 100% sure Japan has conspiracy nuts as well. So the book and the historical record might be dismissed.
It is not unknown knowledge to the Japanese, it's just something they like to ignore. Even if you give them japanese books written about this, they would not read it. Somewhat understandably.
Same in Indonesia
2 nukes wasn't enough.
As a Japanese, I would like to sincerely apologize for our government's behavior and our ignorance. What we have been doing to other countries is beyond cruel, heartbreaking, and embarrassing. I would like you to know that there are many people here who believe these things(historical education, apology, discrimination, hate, etc.....) must be changed. We never forget what happened, and we believe in making wrong things right for our beautiful and loving future. Sadly, I have to admit this is going to take a long time to fix, and I might be gone before I see these improvements because of our political situation, and hate around us(Perhaps you will see what I mean in this comment section....I'm so sick of it), and current society(I'm 21 years old now. I don't want to live the rest of my life without seeing bright future on these things). We still can't talk about Japan's past openly without getting hate, and losing friends or even family, and this is heartbreaking and fearful for us. Many history teachers know these things happened, but they are afraid of being attacked so they don't teach them(I have seen this a lot). We will work to get things right even if it is going to take a long time, we promise. Everybody wants love and peace not hate or ignorance that tears us apart, we have already learned that so many times. If you are Japanese reading this, WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS! Sorry for my bad English. I love you all! Take care!
Your English is good! I do understand there are conflicted within Japan discussing about history, and they do need to own up and move on. USA and European countries do know Japan was aggressive and stubborn country, but the present is what matter as we perceive how our past become who we are today. We forgive, we grow economy together, and find interests in your and my cultures! Well, not at this moment, the border is closed 😅
Anyway, I believe it is right to learn the past without getting hurt because the current generation is living in the modern Japan that have no fault to what they did in WW2. If they keep hiding it, are the minds truly in 21th century? Are they holding grudges and shame that international world doesn't bother much today? Medieval Japan and Japan are different beings. Thank you for telling us what's happening in Japan. It's must been difficult! ♡
@@gryn_iq Thank you for replying!
If people don't know the truth then what will stop it from happening again?
@@benstine2480 That's the point. You are absolutely correct. Sadly, we still have to work to START our journey for change. Thank you for replying! Take care.
You didn’t do anything so you shouldn’t be apologizing. That was many years ago, and the world is very different now. I appreciate your attitude, but please remember this was our grandparents war, not ours.
During the invasion of China, two Japanese officers, Toshiaki Mukai and Tsuyoshi Noda, had a rather morbid competition on who could behead 100 people first. The Japanese news media published a story on the event, with both officers smiling for the camera holding their swords. The headline (translated) read: "Incredible record" (in the Contest to Decapite 100 People)--Mukai 106--105 Noda--Both 2nd Lieutenants Go Into Extra Innings."
The Japanese media, and public celebrated this. Let that sink in.
Unfortunately, my education, 45 to 30 years ago, neglected the war crimes of Japan. Thanks for this video, as it makes people of all nations consider what has and has not been taught to them.
Feel the same way. I had heard a little about the Japanese invasions into China/Korea, but not all those horrible experiments. Makes me so glad Simon and team are covering subjects like this.
I would have had no idea if I didn't take a World Studies class in High School. I know about the Holocaust when I was five, didn't know about Nanking until I was 15. And SJWs have the nerve to complain about "white washing."
More people need to know about this. This is SERIOUSLY scary.
p.s can't believe I'm writing this, but to the ones with reading disabilities: no, I don't mean what the Japanese did in WWII, but their alternative history.
I Hate Japanese Goverment
Indoctrinated And Brainwash
Their People,Their Use Their
Own People As A Shield To
Truth
@fred McMurray I'm talking about the Japanese denying WWII is scary. Not what they did in WWII.
@@poorlittlesheep4098 i'll argue that what they did was far more scarier than they do today
@@rumelingecristescu6046 If you compare act for act then yes.... obviously. But the potential harm that it could cause in future generations is pretty dangerous.
I agree. All history should be known, good and bad. Look at the mess America is in with the race situation. Only America itself believes the war was 100% about slavery.
During the Japanese occupation of Hong Kong, my grandmother told me she would often see people being beheaded besides the docks and thrown into the seas. She recalled that the water around the docks were blood red most of the time.
Same my teacher once told me and my classmates about 5 ways on how the japanese soldiers killed and tortured babies...It was dark..
ye, I heard older people talk about public executions as childhood traumas in Singapore,
I did not blame the current japanese generation ... it could be because of their education on this topic
almost all grandfathers & grandmothers in china, hong kong, malaysia, singapore, indonesia, philippines etc would tell the same things about how cruel was japanese in ww2
The whole Asia are just cruel at the time and continued to be for a long time after ww2.
Its not a warcrime as long as its against China. Sorry for my bad english.
My cousin was captured in Bataan. He survived the death march and the prison camp. I never knew him because he had to live in Florida. Physically, he couldn't handle the New England winters. My dad told me how thin he was when he came home. His experience probably shortened his life. I'm surprised how many young people in America never heard of Bataan. They heard of the atomic, though..
dang your pretty old
Germany: We are so sorry, please forgive our past and we will pay more reparations..
Italy: wdym we and the allies won
Japan: What war?
British: Our Colonists lads that enslaved and killed billions were wee little heroes, bringers of civilization and we don't own anybody anything and no you are not getting your stolen history back from our British Royal museum..
Chinese: We all love and worship Mao for killing millions of Chinese people, causing irreparable damage to Chinese culture and history and for his great leap backward....nah he's Okay!!!
Ameya S the Chinese one is kinda debatable on the person you ask but the British is spot on lol😂
America: We single handedly saved the world, we're the hero!
So Italy is dumb founded
@@ameyas7726 XD
Married for 37 years to a Japanese wife and we were watching band of brothers the episode when they found the camps, I said you think this is bad what the Japanese did was worst, she freaked out had no idea what I was talking about. I showed her a documentary about the actives the Japanese had done to the Chinese, Philippines and others, never seen her cry like that in my life ugh. I couldn't believe she never heard of any of these things, but after going to Japan several times I realize most people no matter how educated they are, they have never heard of a lot of this stuff.
First of all, everyone must recognize that history is made by the victorious nations.
Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons.
Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it.
They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war.
Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites.
After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense.
His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people.
People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
My Ex -Japanese wife said I was lying and making things up. She had to call her "friends" to find out what actually happened. because I was "lying".....
If people turn away from the true history, it will cause another war. Every people should not believe what they hear on TV or learn in textbooks.
Roosevelt had friendly relations with the Soviet Union and supported China. That is no different than the current US Democratic administration.
A lot of people are talking about Japanese people who grew up in the 90s. Are Japanese kids taught the truth as of today?
I've watched a ton of videos asking Japanese in their 20's and 30's and they know NOTHING about WW II, and in particular their part in it.
They've done the opposite, as in example, the Germans.
The Germans have owned up to their behavior in the War, while Japan has not only never apologized, but has taken an attitude of acting like it never happened.
Japan has Apologized to multiple countries including China, South Korea, etc. however they keep denying certain atrocities such as slavery
Yes Germany is an open book on WW2. The former SS HQ in Berlin, a ruin site with little more than the original foundations, is a holocaust museum with photos and readings about the nasty concentration camps, Final Solution and so on.. (at least it was like that in 2003) . This impressed me enormously that they put a humiliating past on full display like that
@@Yoloseriously If you know Japanese you’ll realize the so-called apologies are like “I am sorry for your sufferings” rather than “I apologize for my wrongdoings”
@@Yoloseriously
They "apologized" that it happened.
THE WAR.
But they have NEVER apologized for the atrocities they committed, actually they have argued that they either never happened or extravagations.
Frostic Flames Sexual slavery
I served with a Japanese man. He stuck out like a sore thumb. He looked like a 25 year old and a 70 year old at the same time. He was a 30 year old Private with Jump Wings. These facts begged some questions.
His name was Hiro Yoshimitsu [Yoshi]. He joined the Japanese Ground Defense Force at 17 years of age. He did not like school. He did not study. He excelled at being a warrior. He volunteered for everything. He eventually earned an officer commission. As such he was offered a slot at US Army Airborne Jump School in Ft Benning, Georgia. He took it.
He learned US Military history. He graduated and earned his Jump Wings. He went to a US Marine Corps recruiting office (in uniform) and asked how he could become a Marine. The Marines asked why he wanted to be one of us. He said he learned about what Japan did in WWII and that he didn't want to fight for them anymore. He would fight for us instead. He would redeem his family and his honor with his service to us. He was told he would lose his rank because he didn't have a High School Diploma and no college education, he barely spoke English. He would also have to graduate Marine Corps boot camp. Square One.
He agreed.
He went home to Japan. He resigned his commission. He sold everything he owned and brought a one way ticket to San Diego. He enlisted the next day.
He graduated boot and went on to become an 0311. Infantryman. He served with me in First Battalion, Seventh Marines. Chesty's old outfit. (Look it up, It'll make more sense)
A Japanese Soldier became a Son of Chesty. Life is funny sometimes.
Sounds like that needs to be a movie.
I'm sure he had an interesting career. He did not stay with us long. Once he became a known quantity he became sort of a novelty.
That's not a bad thing for anyone involved (I guess). The Marines are a small place. Word gets around.
You see for some reason command level officers are a club. They rate themselves within that club based on all kinds of metrics but one they like to display is having foreign nationals serve under you. Add that he has Jump Wings. Now add he's a decorated former officer. Lastly he earned his combat action under your command.
That's a rare thing.
How valuable would he be as an Aide de Camp for a Marine General in Okinawa?
The answer is: invaluable.
Now THAT is an honorable man.
Maybe he should've done some more research on what the US military got up to after 1945 before deciding that was the path to honor 😂
For a culture so obsessed with honor they sure did lack it.
Damn
Nicely worded
One could say they tend to be more concerned with saving face than with honor in of itself.
@@emarceeqem4715 True
Savage
In my opinion, based on a LOT of study, Japan's actions in the war were every bit as bad as Germany's. In many ways, they were worse.
I also believe my opinion on this is shared everywhere in Asia except Japan itself.
the main reasoning that we focus more on what Nazi's did compared to what Japan did was because unlike Europe, none of the allies actively liberated China/korea. We went straight for the heart of japan through the ocean and islands, and forced them to surrender and give up what they took. We didnt see the horrors and atrocities like we did in Europe, so they will be less known about in history. The rape of nanking was literally overshadowed by the holocaust. If the holocause never occured, we would be studying more about what happened in China then what happened in Europe.
I live in Belgium and hadn't I educated myself on the matter, I hadn't even known 99% of the shit Japan did prior to and during the war... It's a bit sad, that history books here show Nazi Germany as the big bad, when Japan was just as bad...
True, The Japanese actions were less discriminatory while the Nazis targeted various groups for reasons. The British and Australian POWS suffer worse than American POWS, google Sandakan Death March less than 10 survivors and they had to escape.
@gothicancientalien I'm referring to treatment of POWs, that doesn't invalidate the literal and figurative rape of Manchuria and Nanjing.
@rudiger891 Bataan death march was Americans and the Filipino POWS in the Philippines, Sandakan death march happened on Borneo.
Japan: We did not participate in WWII.
Everyone: You participated in WWII!
Japan: Here, have a waifu.
Everyone: You are completely innocent.
Hahahahaha
USA hahahaah I'm going to NUKE you again if you said that one more time!
They have nukes now
@Harutyun Tatlyan America wouldn't try either....it doesn't take that many nukes to cause untold devastation....there's not really any defence mechanism that can fully protect people from even a low class nuke.
Nuclear war = Extinction.
The sad part is that nuclear war is inevitable.
@Harutyun Tatlyan
None of the so called "Anti Nuke systems" have ever been tested against nuclear attacks. Some Military scientists estimate thier failure at a 60% probability.
Cause you might shoot down one or two nukes, but that pollutes the oceans were they land ....And depending on how man many are launched shooting them all down will be impossible. The nukes of today are over 10 times stronger than the Tsar bombar....even if shot down the devastation would be inconcievable.....
Not even A titanium bunker would be able to take a direct nuclear strike....survival would be impossible, and just like I said....these bunkers have NEVER been tested.
At least Africans will be safe in the event of nuclear war😥
when even the nazis were saying to the japanese about their human experiments "wtf, chill bro", you know that the atrocities were something else and on a different level altogether during WWII
Germany really be the only country to own up to there mistakes.
I think the difference is that Japan can ignore it cuz they did it to other nations, while the Nazis also persecuted their own citizens, even if they viewed the Jews and any non-aryans as outsiders. At the end of the day, Nazi's imposed terror on everyone, which may be why Germany is so willing to not ignore its history as easily as Japan does.
Make no mistake, no country is sinless, but in my experience when I went to school, my history professors were very passionate about telling us the whole truth and broke down the sins of America in great detail. My favorite history teacher spent the entire week explaining in detail why the Civil was was in fact about slavery, at its core, and why the Vietnam War was such a disgrace and evil in American history, even if the people at the time saw Soviets as a bigger threat.
@@janni_tuts_420 naja, nur weil er Österreicher war ist nicht ganz Österreich am 2.wk Schuld wtf
Beim ersten Weltkrieg ists eine andere Geschichte
@@ZekeJaeger1337 dude, it's a joke...
*their
Yeah and to be honest as a German this makes me proud. Iam not really patriotic, I don't patriotism will help anyone. But the way the Germans learned their lesson from the war is very good imo. We have a good education system and there it's taught in many subjects. And I don't see any problem in this. It's how ure supposed to learn from your mistakes. Great video. Iam highly disturbed by the Japanese and how they handled their guilt.
if you ever go to the Hiroshima memorial you'll find a hundreds of displays about the horrors of the atomic bomb and 2 sentences about Pearl Harbor. They definitely paint themselves as the victim
Where can I see or read about it?
When I was young, I knew a man who had survived the Bataan death march and years of captivity. He had a different point of view.
Isn't it because it's wholly dedicated to the bombing of Hiroshima and lives lost rather than a result of war? Never in history has an atomic bomb been used to that level, so it was a very significant event. In the end of the day, those civilians that were vaporised were victims and it is right to display those images to remind people that a weapon of mass destruction should never be used again. The focus should be on the education surrounding history in Japan to include the atrocities of Imperial Japan and how they affected other countries as a result.
I blame the prime minister
Yes, that's what we're taught in school in Japan. In 6th grade the bombing and it's horrible impact was taught for over 3 months, while my teacher never said why Japan got bombed in the first place.
When I asked him why he told me it was an ''accident'' and that it wasn't supposed to hit Japan. There were also only 2 bombs according to my teachers...
I only found out in high school that Japan even took part in the war. And not in history class, but because of a youtube video. It's absolutely crazy how they deny history over here.
I’m an American who taught English in Japanese junior high schools for 17 years. Before that, I tutored Japanese exchange students in the USA. Now most exchange student programs have some academic requirements to take part, you’re usually talking about some very smart kids. So I was really shocked the first time I was tutoring a girl in history and the subject was the Battle of Midway in WW2, we were going into great detail and she was taking all these notes when I asked if she had any questions so far and she honestly asked me 1) what countries fought in the war, and 2) which side won. 🤨?!
Unfortunately, our own schools are doing the same on an even larger and more extreme scale in regards to slavery, genocide, white supremacy, war crimes, and so on. States like Florida working to outright make it a crime to teach children about the history of racial discrimination that defines every aspect of the evolution of this country.
Unfortunately, most countries and cultures try to erase and hide their own crimes.
Some young women in particular really have zero interest in history.
@@bow_wow_wow I find people like you so weird because every comment section has like one or two of you focusing on women even if it has nothing to do with them. Like the whole point is that Japan doesn’t talk about the war in general and teachers won’t speak out because they get shamed
@@AdderallAscension Maybe for whatever sociological reason men are more into History than women ? Or non-Japanese men frequent Japanese women a lot more than Japanese men frequent non-Japanese women for whatever reason too ?
I’m from a very very small city in China and when I watched the movie Midway I can’t believe that it’s accurate enough to include my city Quzhou! I visited the memorial since I was a kid and always known the story of American pilots but it’s nice to see it being represented in western media
I was teaching in Japan when Hirohito died. All but the elderly, celebrated his death. University students rebelled by refusing to take a break from their classes. I was shocked to find out Hirohito was hated by the modern population.
Note that Americans could have probably ended the war with Japan's other condition to have Japan occupied by neutral nations and tried by neutral nations like Russia & India & Mexico, but the Americans decided that those conditions were bad so Americans let the war criminal hiro-hito go free.
So the widespread ignorance of the facts is feigned?
I’m from Japan Hirohito should have been executed
Hirohito didn't necessarily have the power to actually rein in much of the atrocities though, many times he tried but failed, the emperor was still seem as more of a religious and spiritual figure than a political one at this time. His intervention working after the bombs were dropped was the exception, not the rule
@@aoeu256Russia and neutral cant be in the same sentence, Russia actively engaged the japanese, the possible invasion of USSR troops into proper Japan is cited as a reason for their surrender, as for India the japanese had made efforts to push for indian independence and some back and forths in supplying a revolutionary army and having a "goverment in exile". I dont know about México but claiming that Japans proposal was sound is naive
Japan: i dont remember anything from that night
Nazi Germany: dude you were so drunk that you punched america and america beat the shit out of us
Well more like: you punched america and america and his gang beat the shit out of us
Nazi Germany were broken by RUSSIA. America joined the UK and allies, only when it became obvious that Germany was going to lose the war....taking the scientific, rocket and medical information and top expert personnel back to America
@@okdre9276 except america only fought against germany after hitler declared war on the United States. The declaration of war by congress only named japan.
@@realdiamondshow yeahhh...the USSR nearly lost if it wasnt for the Allies(US,UK and a tiny tit bit of france)to open the second front and Hitler's miscalculations and misformation by his generals.
@Jeremy Harmon The Germans were only capable of waging war at all due to American industry supplying vehicles and essential fuel additives. It is fiction to portray America as the heroes of the day..without also understanding that they actually backed BOTH sides for several years...stood back and waited to see the best side to publicaly back.
As an American who has visited Japan several times, I found it particularly interesting the way their museums presented the war. For example, while the atomic bomb museum in Hiroshima presents events in a relatively straightforward and factual way (the goal being to prevent similar events in future,) the national war museum in Tokyo presents it as “we just wanted some oil for our beautiful nation and the colonial powers weren’t sharing; we HAD to attack them! They gave us no choice!” Said museum also punches up prestious Japanese projects, like the battleship Yamato. They don’t mention that the Yamato barely left port and was quickly sunk by aircraft…
But isn't it true that Japan was deprived of oil, their *life* *blood* , and that's why they attacked Pearl Harbor? Japan was provoked, and then attacked. Right?
The Nanking Mas*acre is 100％ lie created by China and the US Democrats. They framed Japanese who did nothing wrong and executed them at the Tokyo Trials. Japan has tons of evidence, but the US is not interested in the truth.
In Battle of China, the number of victims of the Nanking Mass*cre is 40,000, but now China claims 300,000.
Why? Because the Nanking Massac*e is completely lie. The proof is that the Democrats, led by Biden, are still terrible Liars today.
Japan never invaded Korea. During the Japanese rule, the life expectancy of the Korean peninsula increased by 20 years, the population doubled, and industrial production increased sixfold.
Do you know that recently Korea fabricated the history of Vietnam and Netflix stopped from distributing it?
Korea is a lying nation and Japan is suffered by them
Not surprised
A non compliant treaty Battleship builtbin secret, totally not to project power, i swear it was western lies
Ignorance is bliss. The Matrix
I lived in Singapore for over 2 years (mostly people of Chinese descent, but also quite a few from Indonesia, Malaysia and India), and to this day, quite a few people still have bitter feelings about how their parents and grandparents were treated during Japanese occupation.
When I was in Japan, we toured Japanese bunkers. In the bunkers they showed pictures of Japanese officers digging out holes and insinuate that they built them themselves. They don’t tell you that Okinawan slave labor built the other 1000.
The also had a bunker where you could see shrapnel from a grenade and it read that the Japanese committed suicide honorably. They didn’t have the picture of American GIs walking around with a literal bucket of grenades tossing them into holes and bunkers. And yes, they still have statues with swastikas erected.
The swastika one I can accept because it's a religious symbol much older than when Germany apropriated it
@@jessnalulila5552
No, they have ACTUAL Swatstika's. Hitler just got the symbol and rotated it 40 degrees
As a Marine, I spent 1977 in Okinawa, Japan. One weekend, I and a bunch of fellow Marines watch an old WW2 movie on a local TV station, staring John Wyane(sp?). The whole way though, it was the US winning acrost the pacific, but at the end, it was dubbed in that the war was over and Japan had won as the American were jumping for joy. We just all broke into laughter, almost rolling on the floor.
Same here. In 76 when TORA TORA TORA came out in the SNCO club in Iwakuni all the Japanese staff would cheer when their side was winning, but strangly silent when they lost. Semper Fi Marine.
@@jameseast7966 Semper fi back to you too!
Semper fi, brother!
First of all, everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations.
Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons.
Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it.
They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war.
Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites.
After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense.
His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people.
People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
The Nanking Mas*acre is 100％ lie created by China and the US Democrats. They framed Japanese who did nothing wrong and executed them at the Tokyo Trials. Japan has tons of evidence, but the US is not interested in the truth.
In Battle of China, the number of victims of the Nanking Mass*cre is 40,000, but now China claims 300,000.
Why? Because the Nanking Massac*e is completely lie. The proof is that the Democrats, led by Biden, are still terrible Liars today.
Being half-Korean and growing up in a Korean family, I always knew that many South Koreans held contempt towards their Japanese neighbors. I knew about the sexual atrocities committed by the Japanese during their occupation of South Korea but I was not aware of everything else. I also wasn't aware that the Japanese educational system ommits most of the atrocities they committed. I find this unacceptable and any hogwash trying to explain the reason why it's ok to hide this information to be conveinient excuses.
Oh yeah. I teach in Japan... their peace days are such a joke cause they talk only about how bad Germany was to jews and how US bombed them... Never do they bring up that they killed more people than Germany killed jews. Never. It really is hard to have any respect for Japan tbh.
Yeah the American government pardoned some of the Japanese war criminals so they can use them against the Soviets. Example being Unit 731 doctors being used during the Korean War. It is kind of like Werner Von Brown and his fellow scientist, even though they helped the U.S during the space race. Their V-rockets killed scores of people from forced labor or dropping of the bombs.
Also the US government want to use the Japanese government and military against the Soviets. This is also why they easily forgave them unlike Germany, but they knew what was up and became neutral. That's why the Japanese call their military the self-defense force.
It's almost the same as America omitting a lot of Native tribe tragedies in our history. It's usually made out as Englishmen coming over and finding new land, meeting Indians, having a feast. and then a huge fight broke out. This is what we call Thanksgiving
If it makes you feel any better, South Korea isn’t any better. Imperial Japan had a lot of bad stuff stuff Korea, but I would they can stop portraying themselves as one-sided victims and give credit where credit us due (Like being the first ones to modernize Korea).
First of all, everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations.
Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons.
Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it.
They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war.
Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites.
After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense.
His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people.
People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
You need to get Japanese subtitles put on this.
But they have a lot of excuses. They'll deny the content of the video itself
Please watch a video titled ”Untold truth of Japanese annexation of Korea PART1”
It'd probably just get banned in the country
@@devenstephens5435 they dont censor info or anything else on the internet besides child corn
@@ywfbejqfwd5745 drawings are allowed though
It was surprising to learn this because I had been very impressed with Peace Park in Hiroshima in 2008. It included a memorial for the Korean workers who were incredibly badly treated during WWII. It's unfortunate that this is not the norm in most of Japan.
And Japanese are surprise to see even docile Vietnamese often react badly when hearing Japanese Empire was the victim of WWII, they’re not.
That's because Vietnam was under a French colony during World War II & when France had surrendered to the Nazi Germany in 1940, Japan had occupied Vietnam immediately without firing the guns & cannons since both Japan & Germany was allied during that time & the Vichy French gov't allowed an occupation of the Japanese on their French colony of Vietnam, Laos & Cambodia and there was no bloody invasion had occurred unlike other Southeast Asian countries.
Hoàng Nguyên Woah there, I know many viet families that still to this day dislike and even hate the japanese. Mostly the older generation but where tf have you heard that viets have forgiven japan?
Hoàng Nguyên but we are here talking about how Japanese deliberately denying their war crimes. It is not about we forgive them or not but about how Japan try to paint itself as a victim not the other way around. To be fair, other does it too, even us but if you read actual history accounts, not the BS stuff we learn at school the it is really hard to hear some Japanese try to say that 2 Atomic bomb drop is not necessary when his country are all nut case back then.
@Hoàng Nguyên for vietnam what I have heard is that you guys have fought many foreign would be conquerors and after they are gone, like the french, Japanese, Americans you are ok with them, but China is always a danger that never leaves.
@Hoàng Nguyên Very well said, and well done.
I had a roommate in college in the early 90's, it was his first time to the states. He said the pre-WW2 and WW2 was the darkest time in Japan's history. While we never spoke about war crimes specifically, he actually felt the need to apologized for Pearl Harbor (not needed) saying it was done without honor. He seemed to know all of the things we were all taught. Hiro was a great friend, sadly we lost touch over the last 20 years.
Maybe a reunion would be a great time to catch up?
FDR put sanctions on Japan prior to Pearl Harbor. He provoked the attack on Pearl Harbor so he would have an excuse to enter the war.
First of all, everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations.
Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons.
Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it.
They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war.
Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites.
After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense.
His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people.
People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
Japan never invaded Korea. During the Japanese rule, the life expectancy of the Korean peninsula increased by 20 years, the population doubled, and industrial production increased sixfold.
Do you know that recently Korea fabricated the history of Vietnam and Netflix stopped from distributing it?
Korea is a lying nation and Japan is suffered by them.
Listen to letters from hiro by the vapors, basically a song similar to what you just said
The whole Imperial Japanese Army acted like the Waffen SS, making occupation by Japan worse than German occupation.
I was born in Japan (Army dependent) during the occupation in 1951. I also visited Japan many time during a 30+ year career in the US Merchant Marine. I have much respect for the Japanese people and their culture but never underestimate the depravity of the Japanese Army before and during WW2.
Yup, they should never forget their dark stain on history but I am proud of what they have become today and how far they have progressed.
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@colin minhinnick We would have to go back to medieval times, when conquering armies took a city and killed all the men and put all the women and children into slavery, to find anything like the Japanese Army in WW2.
@colin minhinnick Ah yes, the infamous Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. The Japanese are still hated to this day from Korea to Indonesia for their treatment of fellow Asians. The lower regard for human life in Asia still exists to this day. The one thing they have plenty of is people. It is one of the many differences between East and West. This is something people in the West fail to understand.
@colin minhinnick you're not even talking about the worst stuff. Nanjing took terror and depravity to a level never before seen in history. I won't detail it here, but writing about it made me ill.
I was flying to Japan and a young Japanese lady talked to me along the way. When she learned that I was in the military she asked if I could answer a question she had. Her question: why are you here in our country? She had never heard of WW2 and had no idea why there were American military bases in her country. We had an interesting conversation about history after that.
Similar situation to when I was in Yokosuka, however I was only working a civilian job. They are mind-numbingly ignorant. Thank you for your service.
Did you tell her that her country invaded many Asian countries?
Germany: Ok ok, we did something wrong, let's move on
Japan: Huh, we were just having a walk in our neighborhood and we got bombed, wonder why...
Well for the innocent families that were killed they were just walking in the neighborhood.
@@kobekazu9717 Japan was told to surrender or the bomb would be dropped, pamphlet were dropped warning the people to evacuate before the bomb was dropped. America would have lost thousands of lives if they had to invade.
@@kobekazu9717 If America had to invade with soldiers, there would be more deaths on each side then the nuclear death toll combined.
@@kobekazu9717 The Tokyo firebombings killed more than the nukes.
@Nat20 Damage About the nukes? The American drop plenty of pamplets about an incoming nuclear strike to Hiroshima. But sadly those civillians didnt believe the pamplets
As a rare, English speaking Japanese teenager, I can say this video is very accurate.
Oh damn. What’s it like being a teenager over there? (Other than the obvious traits we share as people)
U ain't that rare
What the fuck?! As a rare English speaking Japanese university student, I can say this is so biased and adverse to Japan. This gay like guy is talking as if Nanjing massacre or Sex enslavement was realty happed or directed by imperial Japanese army.
Nowadays, even a westerner is realizing that China always cheat ,hide something important for them, for instance Uygr massacre, and unreliable. Nevertheless, why are you still able to believe what CCP claims "happed”？Propaganda is very very favored in China and other countries in Chino-cultural-circle(CCC)countries, wow!
@@yoshiomiyuze856 There are people who are still alive today that remember the imperial Japanese army playing catch the baby with the bayonet.
@@yoshiomiyuze856 WW2前後で内戦が起きてなかった日本のほうが軍部によるプロパガンダヤバかったと思うんですが。
To be fair even American schools don’t teach about the Japanese atrocities during the war. Most schools focus on Germany too.
Yours may not have. Mine did. But that may have been due to the teacher being outstanding imo (he was a retired USMC Master Gunnery Sergeant)...
I just remember the Batan death March from school.
We weren't even tought about the Japanese American internment camps. I learned about that and more in college.
@@rogueviking9268 were doughnuts involved in any manner?
Do they teach about American atrocities? Let's face it,no country is whiter than white when it comes to war.
I'm 63. My father fought the Japanese in WW2. My uncle was killed in Guadalcanal by the Japanese. I do feel some resentment over imperial Japan as it was a conflict dealing directly with my country and family. The Japanese imperial army, unit 731, various actors at that time acted savagely as seen with catching Chinese babies on bayonets for fun. Truly evil at anytime in history these acts were. At the same time I'm sure there was many an honorable soldier amongst them. We are all ppl after all. Some good and bad amidst all groups of ppl. But once something is done and over to hold grudges only serves to darken ones own soul to continue bitterness and division. I visited Japan in 2002 and found many ppl very kind and it was a lovely place to visit. War and sadism are just evil things in the dark soul of humanity and it's not specific to a race . The hope is for a kinder future for us all.
Why don't you read about how Japanese citizens feel free to discriminate and overcharge non-Japanese tourists and foreign students who travel there? Their prejudice is alive and will be used against you if they are given a chance. It has nothing to do with biological race of any kind of abstract human nature, it is the ethnocentric culture that the Japanese teach their own people.
@@bdwon Their entire Japanese culture was a copy of 1)ancient China, 2) Britain, Germany and USA.
I don't get where this superiority came from.
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
- George Santayana
If the Japanese do not properly teach their own history, however atrocious and self - depreciating it may be. Then a future generation will no doubt go on another "Empire Expansion" conquest.
teach what properly? The Japanese as a people are Racist to this day. They don't teach of the bad shit they did because in the Japanese mind they didn't do anything wrong, ANYTING. After all the only people they hurt were non-japanese.
then they(the government/the soldiers) will die a second time
@@BREZHNIK That'll probably never happen again. Their military isn't very strong and their population is declining.
I agree that history should be taught "warts and all" with the idea that humankind learns from the mistakes of the past. If not, the risk of nationalism, and war with its associated atrocities is never far away.
What a joke. You really think there's any danger of that lmfao. We don't even have a military anymore. We're the most peaceful country on this planet. And the only truly economic power. Just goes to show that everyone could really learn a lot from following the example set by. japan. Germany too, if only they would stop stockpiling all their NATO nukes and become a truly anti nuclear weapons country. But yeah for all the bad things we may have done in the past Japan and Germany are basically the best countries in the world now. So pretty tough to argue that were doomed to repeat pearl harbor just because we don't like to think about people we never met doing bad things to others.
Germany: our doctor mengele is very sadistic.
Japan: ok, but have you tried inhumanely dissecting a man alive?
This implies there’s a humane way of dissecting someone alive 🤔🤔🤔
@@NebulousCreature “hey just go ahead and dissect my body while I watch you do it. No big deal” lol
@@Kain5th Ok 🔪
technically if they're still alive it's vivisection!
Mengele burned children alive. That is about the most evil act possible
I asked my uncle about it once (he was born and raised in Japan), he was also homeschooled though and so he told me what my grandparents taught him and my mom, which is “America was the aggressor, we did nothing wrong.” I really don’t like my grandparents.
@Mycel Don't you know? Standing up to bullies makes you the bigger bully. Just look at what is going on in america right now.
Unit 731 on its own makes our nukes look reasonable.
I understand where that interpretation can come from. You have to keep in mind that back then radio was really the only way information was attained on a mass scale, with the government broadcasts telling you everything is normal and that the country is prospering. So, if you're a rice farmer in a tiny town you have no clue what's going on abroad. Maybe you hear about some military confrontations here and there, but that's it; that wasn't anything unusual given that war in some manner wasn't a terribly unusual occurrence. The next thing you know American planes are dropping bombs on a town a few kilometres away.
@Mycel I think they would point out that American aggression went back much further than ten years. From Perry's expedition forcing Japan open for trade favorable to European colonial powers, to American imperialism in the Philippines and Hawaii, to German involvement in China and Russian territorial ambitions in Mongolia, to British and Dutch and French control of the East Indies and Indochina, Japan would claim that it had been hemmed in by those countries that had already industrialized, and unfairly prevented from using imperialism and colonialism to supply resources to its own growing industrial base, like everyone else already had been, often in Japan's own back yard and to Japan's detriment. Then, in a period of general neglect by the European great powers, when Japan simply sought to use the same sorts of methods of territorial expansion that all those other powers had been using for decades, suddenly there was a problem? No one in the West cared enough to even try to carve out pieces of China any more, so why shouldn't Japan clear out the warlords and make a colony of China?
This culminated in the United States issuing Japan with a flatly untenable ultimatum: Face an oil embargo that would cripple its industry and military, unless they renounced all those colonial ambitions and accept relegation to permanent subservience (which would also guarantee the fall of the current government, and possible societal destabilization). In that context, the embargo reads as a pretext for war. It's the United States telling Japan to accept vassalage or face starvation, or fight if they dare. There can be only one answer to that, so why would the Americans claim to be surprised when Japan chose to fight?
Hopefully this makes it all look a little less bizarre. I can see how each step on the path looked quite rational, especially given the cultural and educational and historical contexts. That being said, I officially still view Japan as an unjustified and horrific aggressor, and am glad that the world has generally moved away from colonialism compared to the past 300 years. One of my personal favorite exercises in alternate history is imagining that the navy and merchant marine factions were more organized and aggressive in the Japanese government in the interwar years, and overpowered the army faction, leading to a Japan committed to acquiring its needed resources via trade rather than conquest. One can imagine how this could lead to a strong trade partnership between a resource-rich but depression-stricken America, and a resource-poor but industrializing Japan.
Ah, well. We're still such a young species.
Yet in Vietnam the US administration was so unimpressed with the infamous orieantal savagery they decided to send CIA to educate their allies in terror tactics. Incidentally 731 type things, only not even for science.
I was lucky enough to go to Japan multiple times on business for weeks at a time. A few trips took me to the region of Hiroshima, where I went to the Peace Memorial Museum a few times. I was surprised at how truthful they were in their culpability for their part in the war. They talked about the use of Korean women as concubines and men as slaves and how brutal their pre WWII history was. There's a Memorial to the Koreans who died during the bombing as well.
I once met met an older gentleman, and he owned a restaurant that I frequented. He remembers the bombing raids when he was about 10. His dad, who played the accordion at the restaurant, fought in WWII. The owner once told me, "That was our father's and grandfather's war." His dad, who I'd always buy a short beer for (they don't accept tips), would come to my table and play something like Yankee Doodle Dandy for me with a smile. His kids were in US universities at that time, BTW. I experienced zero negativity during any of my stays in Japan.
The Koreans do still hold a bit of a grudge on their Japanese neighbors. I've been there and learned very quickly, not to mention my like of Japan and its culture.
I remember reading a novel series(in chinese) that was set during the occupation of Japan in Malaysia and focused on the atrocities commited towards the chinese population there, my great grandparents generations. Bone chilling stories that make me question even if they were human.
The audacity to play victim and say "American just randomly bombed us lol" pisses me off.
Honestly, the people of china have every right to be hostile towards the rest of the world. My mother in law is from Malaysia. Told me a story where as in her teens she had to hide one of her classmates at her home because she was pale and looked too chinese and they were rounding them up. I don't feel bad for what we did to Japan. I don't like the look on my MIL's face when she talks about those times. Makes my blood boil.
@@Mellow_Owl Mkay i get that the Japanese gov and to an extent some if its people are bad because they deny what Japan did to China, but really? The rest of the world?? Its true that China then was horrifically treated by Japan but now they are attempting to perpetuate the same violence to other people like the Uighur Muslims. I don't feel bad at what happened to Japan only because a land invasion by the Allies would have been way more deadly for both sides.
You can’t deny Japan contributed to western science and technology while Qing was backwards. Meiji period made East Asia progress, Korea modernized also very quickly because of Japanese influence. People like you simply fail to separate certain things, Japan was a democracy for most of the 1920s. Japan has established itself, and I consider them to be the Germans of East Asia, the work ethic and discipline are high, Japan always wants to keep up with the rest of the world. Japanese scientists from the 1890s to 1920s were at the same level as the German scientists and contributed greatly in the progress of medicine and other fields.
@@bodoor8172 No ones is denying that but what does that have to do with them raping China? And the Philippines, Hong Kong, and Korea? Are you implying that because they contributed to science they should get a pass?
@@jektopi So they WERE like the Germs of East Asia!
I had dinner with Japanese student in the UK some years ago, he asked what the English thought of Japan and its people, So i said the young will think about Japanese horror films (popular at the time), technology, cars etc. The old will think about WWII and what happened to the troops who surrendered at Singapore. He had no idea what i was talking about and as i explained bits of WWII history he had the look on his face that i was lying. Being a Brit, my history is pointed out to me on occasion so i cant blame him to much for not knowing.
Well you are not taught about India in school, are you? It's the same thing.
@@manashdb In America we're taught a bit about every country. It's a class called World History
@@manashdb India is a different countries that has nothing to do with it. That was people executed by the Japanese why would they not discuss it
@@stol3nexe901 The point he was making was that the British have a long history of oppression toward many other peoples.
@@Tattletale-Delta American kids can't locate earth on a map of earth so please don't try to brag about world history. Your education system is a joke.
Germany: Yes! We are winning this war, fight on!
Japan: Hey! We just bombed the USA, let's win this war!
Germany: Wait you did what???
Except they werent “winning”
MrZsc actually before 1941 they were doing pretty good.
United states over built the nazi, so thats one advantage we had, it took the germans like ab 4x longer to build tanks & stuff like that
Pookie Yes, the Americans went for numbers while the Germans wanted to build the most superior equipment possible. Example the Tiger or Panzer tank vs the Sherman. The Nazis kill ratio was 10:1. Needless to say the American tank crews weren’t too happy about their odds but in the end the sheer numbers being thrown at Germany overwhelmed them.
@@MsZsc Well they had a great position on deafting the targeted countires but then dipshit japan was like ay let's bomb one of the strongest nations in world america. And america was neutral before that so the Axis just made a huge enemy and got fucked BC of it.
You earned a sub sir. Amazingly comprehensive, yet easy to digest information. Look forward to browsing your back-catalogue.
I always found it strange that in the US, we hear about the holocaust in Europe, but rarely about what happened in China, etc. during the same time. Or even Stalin in the USSR. Both of those scenarios killed far more than six million people.
people have been saying that for years. japan was far more cruel than both combined. We forget why we even joined the war
I would chalk that up to us being much closer allies with those European countries while the others you mentioned all became our rivals
what history class did you go to ? stalin is heavily taught about here in the u.s. and so is the nanjing massacre, you make it sound like we just ignore the mass culling of humans happening, must be one of those kids who slept during class then blamed the teacher for failing a test.
China was not important , so only the Flying Tigers were of interest. If the US is not involved, it does not count as worthy of being taught.
@@williamlebotschy2729 well then i guess about 35 percent of my highschool teaching wasnt deserved, its almost like people slept or skipped class so much that when things are brought up they dont know about them because they took the free education handed to them and spit on it.
As Korean, I can't say thank you enough for covering it. You can't move forward until you acknowledge what happened.
Thank you. 🇰🇷🇺🇸🇰🇷🇺🇸🇰🇷🇺🇸
Korea belongs to Japan. It will happen.
First of all, everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations.
Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons.
Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it.
They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war.
Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites.
After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense.
His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people.
People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
You Korean drama fabricated history recently.
Vietnam got outraraged and Netflix banned it.
You need to realize your country's media and national institution is propaganda media.
Korean yonhap news shows warning message on RUclips
The Nanking Mas*acre is 100％ lie created by China and the US Democrats. They framed Japanese who did nothing wrong and executed them at the Tokyo Trials. Japan has tons of evidence, but the US is not interested in the truth.
In Battle of China, the number of victims of the Nanking Mass*cre is 40,000, but now China claims 300,000.
Why? Because the Nanking Massac*e is completely lie. The proof is that the Democrats, led by Biden, are still terrible Liars today.
This an English channel.
I am a Japanese and I didn’t know that we did this kind of terrible inhuman experiments to living human. I can completely say that I’ve never been taught this, since I got into the university whose entrance exam is famous for its difficulty of national history. I cannot believe that actually happened. But now I know this is the real. I really wanna insist that Japanese government should provide the right textbook to make sure that all students can learn the accurate history. And most of Japanese don’t consume the information in English and that also makes our view really narrow. We really need to change. I definitely explain this video to my family and friends. Thank you
Wow, the brutality of the Japanese was always a big thing in Australia. Up there with the Germans and Russians. May I ask, how old are you?
I agree. Atrocities have been around for millennia across various civilizations. There's nothing wrong with knowing the truth.
They're not going to tell the truth because the man most responsible for these crimes was Emperor Hirohito. For example, the man who was hung for the rape of Nanjing was General Matsui. But the man who commanded the rape was Prince Asaka, Hirohito's uncle by marriage. Here is the basic truth of prewar Japanese history. In the 1930's the Japanese military had basically taken over the government but the military was divided into 2 factions. The strike north faction, dominated by the army and the Choshu clan, wanted to attack the Soviet Union. The strike south faction, dominated by the navy and the Satsuma clan, wanted to attack the western colonial powers in the Pacific. Hirohito was basically the unofficial leader, (he led from behind the curtain as they say in Japan), of the strike south faction. When the war was over General MacArthur saved Hirohito from the hang man so that he could use him as a tool to build a more democratic and hopefully peaceful Japan. Several men were hung in his place, including General Matsui, and a cover story was put in place that said that the Emperor was a powerless figure head. This cover story is still taught in America today.
Neighboring countries to Japan complain about the textbooks every year. Let's just say it made zero difference.
I’m Japanese too and I’m angry that they keep our real history a secret from us. Many Asians harbor some hate towards us, and the majority of us don’t even know the atrocities we did in those countries 🤦🏻♀️ truly truly embarrassing
I had a friend that moved to the states from Japan. I brought up Pearl Harbor one day and he never heard of it until that moment I was shocked
i’m singaporean and in 2019, a group of japanese students came to my school and my class was supposed to tell them about singapore’s culture, diversity, etc but when it came to telling them about our history, our teachers told us not to say anything about the japanese occupation. i remember all we told them was “world war II happened then we had a merger with malaya but got kicked out and that’s how singapore gained independence”. kinda funny because almost our entire history revolves around ww2/the japanese occupation. the fact that we weren’t allowed to tell those students anything was really sad
guys I was 13 then. and in my school we couldn't just not follow what the teachers tell us to do. life in singapore doesn't work that way
Asian countries stand together with any country that was occupied by Japanese.
Also any westerner who was directly affected by Japanese evils.
That's incredible that happened as recently as 2019! I guess the kids would have gone into complete shock and disbelief. Maybe the school just didn't want to mess with that kind of fall-out-dozens of kids yelling that you were lying to them?
Damn... I would have told them straight and then tell hem to find everything about all the Japanese atrocities on the internet
@@martianmartian7281 our teachers would have scolded us if we did that😭
@@areebah8297 NOT A SCOLDING!!!???
True story.. I had to educate my Japanese gf on her on nation's history
@@115islandscompass6 バイアスない歴史あるといいですね。
Saru Thilageswaran
そうですね
"rook bwobby iam amwerikhan... Hello sir, do you have anything gluten free". Bloody round eye!
@@115islandscompass6 the truth was japan invaded china , your soldier wont die if you din land your foot into china. Malaysia also innocent but you guys land your fucking foot at our land and kill our people
@@115islandscompass6 actually they were but since their colonization brought many good things to their countries the things they did were overshadowed
Having lived in Japan I can tell you there have been a few instances where the war was brought up in conversation with locals around. You could tell it made them very uncomfortable. One thing I’ve also noticed in my time here is that the Japanese people still hold prejudices against Chinese and Korean people. There are many other things here like their views on mental health and women’s health that I find backwards, but that’s another story. I love their culture but they are very flawed in their way of thinking still today. I can definitely understand why the Chinese and the people of the Koreas are still angry with the Japanese.
Prejudice is something you have against someone that you don't really know about.
Japan, China & Korea have been "together" for hundreds of yrs, if not thousands. And we know them very well.
I'm comfortable talking about WWII, by the way.
And I'm glad you don't live in Japan anymore.
@@ochiaichannel1189 Everyone knows you get the woman and then leave.
Could you perhaps tell me more of how the Japanese view is on Mental health and women's health? I'm quite curious now that you brought it up. Thank you!
I think it's mainly because their main exposure to news about Korea and China is "Korea doesn't like Japan" or "China doesn't like Japan" so they just don't like back, though it is exacerbated by right-wing spaces online like 5ch, which can sometimes turn into echo chambers. But on the popular culture front, there is much less prejudice, and both Chinese and Korean artists have blended in with Japanese seamlessly.
@@NordicSoldier Japanese view on mental health is mainly that they don't have a view because they don't talk about it, and their emphasis on being considerate for others over individual well-being means that they mainly view things like suicide as not mainly about someone in distress, but rather someone causing a nuisance because of making others need to clean their body up.
The Japanese view on women is that their primary purpose is marriage. That is why on Japanese media, you often see jokes about them being soiled for marriage when anything slightly lewd happens, because that's partly based on what happens. And also women who aren't virgins can sometimes be thought of as unclean. Again, this is also often talked about as a joke, but the joke works because it has an undertone of something true in it.
The Japanese are so embarassed by their loss that they had to make up Godzilla
This sounds like the US Government. Japan investigated Japan, and came to the conclusion that Japan did nothing wrong.
😂
While it is true that US history is biased at lower grades, once in most Liberal universities the truths are taught and debated freely.
It's not just liberal universities. Most colleges encourage debate. Anybody who has taken an online class can tell you that part of their grade comes from online discussion board posts and replies.
Klausenheimer are you saying japan is right?
Lmfao university does not welcome open and free debate. They are places of communist and socialist indoctrination
"The Japanese raped, pillaged, and murdered their way across China, and then America dropped a couple of atomic bombs on them and they suddenly discovered they were pacifists." (roughly paraphrased from somewhere I read once)
"Victors write the history of war".
@@sipunks BS. The South lost the Civil War, but ever since then Southern historians have been writing their revisionist history about 'the Lost Cause'. Nothing to do with slavery; it was all about 'States' Rights', or 'tariffs', or whatever. And likewise the Japanese have been teaching their children their own revisionist history of WW2.
@@jeromemalenfant6622 I believe SI Punk's comment was actually intended to apply to *Charles Gru's statement,* which very much does smell of "victor bias" (not to mention gross oversimplification), regardless of anything that the Japanese did or didn't do during WWII.
And just because there are specific instances where something sometimes does not happen a particular way does not mean it isn't still often true more generally.
@@foogod4237 My response was mostly an objection to the quote about victors writing history, which gets tossed around a lot and which, while probably accurate in ancient times when the losers generally got annihilated, is no longer valid in recent history. Now it's just a lazy way of attempting a rebuttal to something one doesn't like.
I found Gru's statement to be a fairly accurate summary of how the Japanese behaved in WW2. But if the Japanese find that attitude inaccurate, nothing is stopping their historians from writing their own histories of Japan's actions in the war.
@@jeromemalenfant6622 Lincoln originally wanted the war to be about that, he didn't want to make the war about slavery because he feared doing so would fracture the two parts beyond fixing. That was until the Gettysburg Address.
I really like how he pointed out that Japan's political heritage is continuous from before WWII to today, unlike the other axis nations. Their inability to use a prior political regime as a scapegoat is definitely a huge reason why Japan's education differs so much from Germany's in their depiction of the war.
excellent point
That's a point I never really thought about. But it makes a lot of sense.
First of all, everyone should recognize that history is made by the victorious nations.
Japan started the war because of the racism from the whites. Whte people invaded many countries and treated blacks, Indians, Africans, Indonesian as badly as cattle and fed them like feeding pigeons.
Japan submitted a treaty on the elimination of racial discrimination at the Paris Peace Conference, but the U.S., Britain and Australia rejected it.
They stopped all resources, including oil, to Japan, and life for the Japanese was at a breaking point. This is why Japan started the war.
Japan first attacked bases in countries colonized by whites.
After WW2, Douglas MacArthur said that Japan only fought a war of self-defense.
His Japanese interpreter Faubion Bowers, said he was impressed that Emperor Showa was a gentle man who cared for his own people.
People ignoring the aggression of their own country, and criticize only Japan are shameful racists.
The Nanking Mas*acre is 100％ lie created by China and the US Democrats. They framed Japanese who did nothing wrong and executed them at the Tokyo Trials. Japan has tons of evidence, but the US is not interested in the truth.
In Battle of China, the number of victims of the Nanking Mass*cre is 40,000, but now China claims 300,000.
Why? Because the Nanking Massac*e is completely lie. The proof is that the Democrats, led by Biden, are still terrible Liars today.
Japan never invaded Korea. During the Japanese rule, the life expectancy of the Korean peninsula increased by 20 years, the population doubled, and industrial production increased sixfold.
Do you know that recently Korea fabricated the history of Vietnam and Netflix stopped from distributing it?
Korea is a lying nation and Japan is suffered by them.
My wife is Chinese and members of her family were murdered by the japanese during the war and Her opinion on the dropping of nuclear bombs on japan is “GOOD BUT NOT ENOUGH” and I totally agree with that. They should be forced to educate their people about what they did and the fact that they don’t is a disgrace and an insult to the people they tortured and murdered.
The Chinese were the first to aid the allies (British) ... they also had the second most deaths in WW2. That's been virtually buried now.
I knew all this, and know this to be truth. Because my grandpa was in this war. He told me about all this in great detail. The Imperial army and Imperial Navy did not get along. So you can imagine how much more hatred he already had of them. He wanted to wait until I was an adult to explain the truth to me since I was his youngest grand child. I knew I had to really listen when he told me. He never talked about it much. He once lived in Kellogg Idaho in the US before the war when he played baseball. He moved back to Japan about in the late 1930s after he heard news about a need for aviators and he wanted to become a pilot. He retired in 1968 from the JASDF. He passed away in 2011 at 93.
Don't worry dude, legends don't die
Bless your grandpa.
He sounds like a good and honest man. Louis Zamperini an Olympian was captured after his B-25 which was on a search mission crashed in the pacific an spending 47/days floating at sea, was picked up by Japanese Sailors and transported to several different camps eventually I think winding up in Honshu. I hope I spelled that correctly. He had a Japanese Soldier SGT that beat him almost every day. When Japan surrendered he disappeared. Later to turn up after charges were dropped after about 8 years or so. Louis had returned stateside, his Olympic career ruined by the war, started drinking a lot, then after several years of this and his wife growing impatient with him, was walking down the street and saw this “Tent” revival and he was drawn to it. It was Billy Graham in Los Angeles and from that day on he was a new man, born again Christian. After several years he made an appeal to all those that imprisoned him and beat and tortured him to meet and forgive them. But that sergeant didn’t show. He still had hate in his heat and Louis let go of it and he lived a full life and passed at age 97. It was turned into a movie. I think it was Angela Joles first directing debuts as a director.
@@lawrencemay8671 He also murdered his wife in what was thought to be an alchol and PTSD fueled rage.
@@tracylove3937 ah the good ol times when mental illnesses went untreated
Imagine how Koreans/Chinese would feel whenever we see Japanese Government(correction, recent administration of Abe) ignoring, and sometimes even denying such damages. No offence to the people living in Japan, since they were "intentionally not taught" of such cruelty, but really, it is hard to understand.
same can be said about many countries Britain america china. just to name a few
Anglos*
Dracone1024 “we” did not. People who lived here in the past did. We ALL need to focus on the present and do what we can to understand the past but not dwell on it to the point of resentment. All we can do is fix today.
I suppose they are taught about Japanese atrocities the same way Turks are taught about the Armenian Genocide?
It’s over. Most everyone involved are dead. No one alive today is responsible. Not being able to move forward a huge problem as it is.
I was married to a Japanese lady for 25 years, I lived in Hokkaido for 15 years, and I can honestly say that most Japanese people will deny that Japan committed any War crimes. Japanese people are extremely loyal to their country and very loyal to each other. An interesting country to live in to say the least.
Man, tell me about it. Seven years was enough for me
In the early 1990s, my family hosted a Japanese couple who were part of a 'exchange' program sponsored by Oncologists from the US and Japan. This couple had a very limited and somewhat perverse idea of Imperal Japan. Essentially, to them the war with the US started when the US 'invaded' Iwo Iwo Jima and Okinawa. It ended with the unforgivable attack by the US using nuclear weapons. They knew about Pedal Harbor, etc but thought that was all period US war propaganda. They had no idea we lived within 40 miles of Los Alamos where the bombs where built. We took them on a history tour there and the Bataan museum (NM National Guard was heavily represented in the 'death march') and showed my grandfather's WW2 Navy service in the Pacific records to them. Obviously, we also had fun, they were here for 2 weeks and part of this exchange was to learn the history and cultures of each nation. This couple was 1 generation removed from WW2. Ialways ensure to say Imperial Japan when talking about WW2. It was a different time, a different people. It does bother me that they essentially whitewash their negative history but it's more about us educating people on a cultural level and learning from them as well than trying to force something down their throats. We can also learn from them
For eight years I've lived in Japan, I built a school there and part of what I did was teach Japanese people Japanese history.
The look of awe and amazement when they find out what their country did was profound.
Most were saddened. Some got angry and one told me I was a Chinese propaganda agent.
What do you mean you built a school there? It is the third largest economy in the world.
@@dac545j do you even know what rural japan is? Have you ever been in japan? I have... and even if tokyo is huge you'd be surprised how many areas look like ghost towns.
Why would you behave like an anti-japanese spy?
Do you teach balanced view or do you just focus on their negatives to make you feel better about all the evil your people did?
That sounds like a scary pursuit. Look how much shit you’re getting even from the people on this thread.
Those who are obsessed with honor often lack it the most.
Keeping things in moderation is best after all
I read "obesed with horror" wth hahaha
@@shuem_ See the movie BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI.
The concept of honor is Japanese culture isn't the same as in the west. It was more about loyalty to your superiors, family, and country. They were a lot of things in WW2, but the Japanese were certainly loyal.
@@CarrotConsumer Check out 'honor' in the Muslim tradition.
When the Tohoku Earthquake and Tsunami hit, I watched Japanese news for about a month. One thing that kept popping up was the consistent use of the phrase "the greatest natural disaster since WWII".
Which I found extremely odd....it was as if Japan viewed WWII like a particularly nasty typhoon.
Historically, as a disaster, WWII was a sustained Typhoon from the battle of Midway until the storm came ashore in August of '45 over Hiroshima. The natural disaster reference simply underscores the denial. Japan earned every loss, human and material, it suffered and have never acknowledged as the Germans have their errors.
fission is part of nature, i guess
@@near--zero Fusion is part of nature, the engine of stars. Fission is the human concoction, an un-natural concentration of radioactive isotopes of uranium of great purity.
@@near--zero The inspiration for Godzilla.
It was a japanese typhoon made of humans instead of clouds.
The dangers of forgetting history is we are bound to repeat it.
History shows we don't learn from history
I don't think anything is more healing to a victim than having their pain acknowledged.
Yep, this is it. Germany has faced what they did; their prime minister went to Warsaw and knelt asking for forgiveness. Healing has happened. The Japanese of today don't even know why people are mad at them.
@@jayteegamble It seems like Japan is playing the waiting game and wait till everyone who knows about this first hand is gone.
@@jayteegamble thats a load of bull no matter much you apologizes some people won't forgive time to move on forced on what happening now and the future
@@Steven9567 Getting forgiveness isn't the point. Acknowledging that what was done was wrong is the point.
I've never seen any healing. I've seen forgiveness as the gift to the victim by the victim. But it also must be said: We do not visit upon the sons the sins of their fathers. The opposite of what the Buybull says.
This is actually what the Void Century in the manga One Piece references. The Government pretending their crimes didn't happen.
Oh shit!
Might have been a little sign from the creator.
Joy boy is actually the name of a nuke lol
We don’t know that yet but I hope this is the direction Oda is taking.
@Skelebore MIND BLOWN. I doubt that Oda would allude to this though since Japan is very strict with regards to censoring such issues vs. Japan. BUT, if he ever were to do this, he'd really be GOda in my book.
US Marines already on Okinawa:
"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?"
Lol best comment.😂