Why Politicians Are Obsessed With Immigration

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @WisecrackEDU
    @WisecrackEDU  Месяц назад +32

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    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 Месяц назад

      I remember when Harris was first considered for VP. All her anti immigration history came out. Msm reported that she more or less created I.C.E and all the brown shirt type police asking everyone for citizenship ID. Today Harris is considered pro migrant ??? Compared to Trump???? Ya'll know that's a lie right. Kamala might have brown skin but policies as a senator and the vp show policy after policy to restrict new Americans from settling and keep the popular race in charge.

    • @chujiwu68
      @chujiwu68 Месяц назад +3

      Yes.
      ..Of course.

    • @cabthegreat87
      @cabthegreat87 Месяц назад

      Just a headsup. Its Timor Lestè. Their independence was recent and hard-won

    • @zhcultivator
      @zhcultivator Месяц назад +1

      yeah, the Walled World is real indeed - the-department.eu/assets/projectimages/_tilezoom/walled-world-english-2009_files/thumb.jpg.

  • @surturiel
    @surturiel Месяц назад +800

    As an immigrant myself, I can attest how much the common folk don't know what rights you do (and more importantly, you don't) have until you become a citizen. And how freaking hard it is to become one.
    People firmly believe that any landed immigrant can immediately vote and/or collect welfare.

    • @kiim0
      @kiim0 Месяц назад +104

      shit, some of my family are here under such a circumstance. And if anything, they do everything they can to avoid the federal government. Even go as far as *refusing medical services* because of fear that ICE will find them. One of my cousins was brought here at the age of 3, and to this day (she is like 38 now), she STILL has trouble becoming a citizen and living as a normal american. No bank account. No credit card. No credit score. EVERYTHING has to be cash.
      They really think they just come here, and boom, start mooching.

    • @darrenzhan5302
      @darrenzhan5302 Месяц назад

      Anyone who has done research knows it takes a decade or more of hard research work to collect enough publications and letter of rec to even attempt to apply for green card and even longer for citizenship. Or u have to go thru military which frankly is a different kind of tough hard work. Yet u got these clowns thinking people should just cross border and get free shit.

    • @stoodmuffinpersonal3144
      @stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Месяц назад +25

      I worked over seas on a visa and there's STILL a lot Idk.
      People think you waltz right in. It's not that. Not even close.

    • @stoodmuffinpersonal3144
      @stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Месяц назад +52

      Lol which is funny cause people HERE often struggle to do that, with citizenship. You really think that someone with LESS of the right paper work has more access to that than you?
      Lol
      If the migrants are getting "our jobs," are they jobs we were lining up for in the first place?
      Do you have the credentials for that position?
      Or is it easier for someone to hire someone who has less power to say "no," to you, so you can pay them more cheaply and give even less about their rights as workers?
      We really don't think it through

    • @digitalreject3233
      @digitalreject3233 Месяц назад

      " People firmly believe that any landed immigrant can immediately vote and/or collect welfare." That's the problem with beliefs. They don't require a shred of evidence. That's why I don't have any. Those who firmly believe that crap are the ones living in the right wing eco chamber. The rest of us are better informed.

  • @CompComp
    @CompComp Месяц назад +397

    There isn't a labor shortage. There is a pay shortage. I'm not going to break my back for an unlivable wage.

    • @YoyoNYRkr
      @YoyoNYRkr Месяц назад +14

      How do we fix it? California passed a law that increased minimum wage for fast food workers. Which ended up being critiqued by the right and some in the left that increased the price on fast food and led to the closure of some businesses. One thing that people forget is the USA influence on foreign states. Venezuela is frozen by an embargo that USA and its allies imposed. Which created inflation. Aside from its government policies, the people can’t afford basic needs. Anyone with a need of work and money will take a low wage because in their countries wages are basically pennies. Wages here in the USA are obviously higher coming from those countries. You wouldn’t understand how much influence the rich and giant corporations have in other countries. May be we should look into the bigger picture besides what is depicted on the media. This video is a good one for sure.

    • @isaacmartinez2359
      @isaacmartinez2359 Месяц назад

      But the immigrants will :)

    • @dr4go749
      @dr4go749 Месяц назад +12

      That's because there's
      1. A taxes problem with how suburbs are structured
      2. A surplus of workers, yeah, some man from a poor country is willing to break his back for a lower wage, he comes from poverty, in the US an unlivable wage is better than an average wage over there (+offer -price)
      3. An embedded thought in American culture that you have to get rich taking advantage of people

    • @The_fusion_physics_guy
      @The_fusion_physics_guy Месяц назад +3

      porque no los dos?

    • @Dreamville12-pb5sg
      @Dreamville12-pb5sg Месяц назад +4

      @@YoyoNYRkrhere’s my two cents. I think one aspect that is neglected is making the market more competitive. We live in a time where we have the most monopolies in history. Like just 10 companies control almost everything we eat (USA) like Nestlé, PepsiCo, Coca-Cola, Unilever, Danone, General Mills, Kellogg's, Mars….. I think by breaking up these companies will result in a lot of this unequal distribution of wealth to “trickle down,” our economy is growing, our productivity is higher than ever. But wages are stagnating but profits of Fortune 500 companies are imploding. But I’d like to hear your thoughts.

  • @akhayat89
    @akhayat89 Месяц назад +131

    I find it interesting that the rhetoric is "They [illegal immigrants] are taking our jobs" and not "They [Business owners] are giving our jobs away"

    • @titussardonicus338
      @titussardonicus338 Месяц назад

      What jobs are they taking? The same jobs that these conservative idiots insist aren't worth a living wage. There's a reason Americans don't want those jobs.

    • @justwannabehappy6735
      @justwannabehappy6735 Месяц назад

      This remind me when I was a part-time student working in a restaurant (24 hours a week, while it is recommended to only to 16 hours a week when you study).
      To make the story clear, English isn't the main language in my area. My employer didn't know I could understand and speak English.
      One day, a temporary resident came for a job interview, which happened in the kitchen, while I was working. My boss conducted the interview in English, thinking I couldn't understand a word they said. He asked how much the applicant was willing to work. The guy, clearly desperate for anything, said he'd do anything.
      The boss asked him if he was willing to work 60 hours a week (full time employment is considered 40 hours a week in my area).
      The applicant said yes on the spot. Later that week, my boss told me I would be getting less hours (even tho I needed the money).
      I asked him if it was because I was a student and could not give him 60 hours a week like the new guy. My boss was stunned and realized I understood everything they said.
      I understood quickly that employers were the one responsibles for the conflict between native citizen workers and immigrants/ temporary workers.

    • @freniisammii
      @freniisammii Месяц назад +12

      One of the most frustrating things and one of the biggest obstacles against class solidarity. This single mindset change opens up a whole new space of cooperation that we couldn't even imagine. Instead of immigrants being seen as a labour force sucking the power away from the "native" citizens, they can instead be considered reinforcements for the worker's movement that the ruling class is conveniently handing towards us.

    • @Gutock
      @Gutock Месяц назад

      Every single forking time.

    • @lightupthedarkness6762
      @lightupthedarkness6762 Месяц назад +2

      It's the same as slavery: it only takes one bad actor to ruin the economy for everyone. If I have slaves and you refuse, then I win. It's up to law enforcement and political will to do what is right.

  • @Fever2113
    @Fever2113 Месяц назад +240

    In Canada, our government has fully embraced the neoliberal angle to immigration. Our unskilled service industry and agricultural jobs are almost entirely filled using temporary foreign workers, and migrants on student Visas. This is a policy embraced across all of our political parties, because it perpetuates the neoliberal paradigm.
    It sucks. (Note that it's not the people that suck, it's the policy of deliberately exploiting non-Canadians to maintain status quo and suppress wages that sucks).

    • @K1ng1995
      @K1ng1995 Месяц назад +13

      It sucks cuz people on student visas shouldn't be working full-time. My issue is that where I live in Canada Victoria BC, a small island just off Vancouver, we don't have the housing, jobs, or space right now. It's gotten to the point where 5 people are sharing crappy apartments that they can barely afford, and if they say anything they'll just get evicted. I think it all comes down to BALANCE

    • @bobfearnley5724
      @bobfearnley5724 Месяц назад +3

      Suppressing wages can lower prices, which was what the government tried to do with inflation. But it increases the strain on housing and other services.

    • @MrDeathChicken
      @MrDeathChicken Месяц назад +18

      1850s “without slaves, who will pick the crops”
      2024 “without illegal immigrants, who will pick the crops”

    • @MrDeathChicken
      @MrDeathChicken Месяц назад +3

      @@K1ng1995there is also a lot of racism. There are so many rental listings that say “asians, south asians, or females only”. The government let foreign investors buy with impunity for far too long so that locals cant buy or rent anymore.

    • @chrisdiaz9011
      @chrisdiaz9011 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@MrDeathChickeneverybody knows as soon as slavery was abolished, wages for farmers went up 300% 😤😤😤

  • @GhostSamaritan
    @GhostSamaritan Месяц назад +246

    My East African grandpa just told me today that so many African families get split when siblings are pretty much forced relocate to rich countries to study and work (or else they'll likely starve to death). They don't typically stay in touch very well due to different time zones, cost of travel, etc. Really sad how capitalism kills community. Anyway, people seem to cope with their lack of community by shopping, so I guess that's profitable for some rich guys, so that's great. It will probably trickle down any minute now.

    • @popcornfilms1
      @popcornfilms1 Месяц назад +10

      So true. Trickle down doesn’t work the the ceiling is water TIGHT

    • @JeffKaub-px7us
      @JeffKaub-px7us Месяц назад

      I cope with my lack of community by _shoplifting_ .
      I do think there's a community of malcontents dedicated to ripping off rich fucks for funsies.
      Maybe i'm coming full circle?

    • @MorbidEel
      @MorbidEel Месяц назад +6

      I don't think you can blame time zones for not staying in touch when people used to do that while the only option was writing letters that takes months to be delivered.

    • @3dPrintingMillennial
      @3dPrintingMillennial Месяц назад +1

      ​@@MorbidEel ah yes. Let the poor East African just stroll down his driveway to the mailbox to gather his mail...

    • @MorbidEel
      @MorbidEel Месяц назад +2

      ​@@3dPrintingMillennial Did you miss this part "Anyway, people seem to cope with their lack of community by shopping" ?

  • @cuttinaboot
    @cuttinaboot Месяц назад +95

    As a British citizen and native Scot, I’d like to let you know that the current Labour Party have slipped so far from their original ideas and beliefs that the party stood for. Essentially conservative lite

    • @xXRickTrolledXx
      @xXRickTrolledXx Месяц назад +16

      Reminds me of what happened to the Democrats after their loss to Regan

    • @metaouroboros6324
      @metaouroboros6324 Месяц назад +9

      That's our Democrat party in the US.

    • @Jajek333
      @Jajek333 Месяц назад

      New Labour was Thatcher's biggest success, just like Kennedy was Reagan's

    • @aesop1451
      @aesop1451 Месяц назад

      Economic anxiety leads to scapegoating immigrants and conspiracy theories. If you really wanted to stop the rise of the far-right, you needed Corbyn in the UK, Mélenchon in France, and Sanders in the US.

    • @umjackd
      @umjackd Месяц назад +9

      @@xXRickTrolledXx That's essentially what happened in the UK after Thatcher as well. The Tony Blair victory under "New Labour" basically was the party declaring "Okay, you win on economics, we'll only fight you on how to manage the capitalism, not on capitalism itself."

  • @FreshHeat
    @FreshHeat Месяц назад +134

    2:11 the left-wing coalition won but the centrist Macron just named a right winger as PM.

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  Месяц назад +78

      yeah sadly we filmed this before that crap went down.

    • @amanofnoreputation2164
      @amanofnoreputation2164 Месяц назад +4

      Bruh

    • @rozelseanallencasimsiman599
      @rozelseanallencasimsiman599 Месяц назад +26

      Liberals being Liberals...

    • @sparks1792
      @sparks1792 Месяц назад +1

      It’s because they don’t have a real coalition lmao

    • @a1b1c184
      @a1b1c184 Месяц назад +12

      According to Wisecrack here everything slightly right should be called "far right". That's what he does......

  • @Lord_Ralph
    @Lord_Ralph Месяц назад +299

    Banning porn would make me a sad panda 😢

    • @TheEverFreeKing
      @TheEverFreeKing Месяц назад +4

      They are lying to you go read it for yourself that is not in there.

    • @cancerino666
      @cancerino666 Месяц назад +57

      ​@@TheEverFreeKingI checked and it is. 😢

    • @Lord_Ralph
      @Lord_Ralph Месяц назад +6

      @@cancerino666 Ramen, brother/sister/thingy!

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Месяц назад +24

      Oh no, would someone think of the panda!

    • @justagamer1160
      @justagamer1160 Месяц назад

      a little bit less porn does not sound that bad

  • @Juanpopspacks
    @Juanpopspacks Месяц назад +286

    This comment section will surely be civil and respectful.

    • @AchillesChebulka
      @AchillesChebulka Месяц назад +6

      💯💯💯

    • @soccerandtrack10
      @soccerandtrack10 Месяц назад +11

      Like flordia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😄👐👐

    • @cancerino666
      @cancerino666 Месяц назад +18

      Hi, just came to say you're all beautiful and have a wonderful day.

    • @otislamar8613
      @otislamar8613 Месяц назад

      @@soccerandtrack10 personally I’m from Colorado, but I love Florida. I go to Florida every fucking chance I get you can’t stop me from bringing weed and getting some Miami hoes.

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Месяц назад +11

      ​@@cancerino666thank bud, have a blessed day

  • @EuclideanVision
    @EuclideanVision Месяц назад +120

    Just have to pipe in from the UK & point out that Labour winning has proven very quickly to not back up that beacon of hope idea.
    Edit - glad you ultimately shat on that idea, thank you.

    • @dazartingstall6680
      @dazartingstall6680 Месяц назад +6

      I paused the video at probably the same point you did, to say the same thing. Judging from your edit, my fears were unfounded.

    • @calci2679
      @calci2679 Месяц назад

      Considering what they’re doing to trans people, I’d have to agree. They are a vile group

    • @JoseAlfonsoContreras-g9l
      @JoseAlfonsoContreras-g9l Месяц назад +2

      1 dime made a video saying how no matter who gets in power, they always side with the stat uo.

    • @a1b1c184
      @a1b1c184 Месяц назад

      What is it you're hoping for? Complete open borders? How in the world does that makes any current UK citizen's life any better? This argument that having a border is "fascist" is nonsense.

    • @Dragrath1
      @Dragrath1 Месяц назад

      I remember some concerned outcries under labor from a left leaning British RUclipsr some years back about how the labor party was at the time purging itself of actual leftists so yeah no surprise at all just another classic example of neoliberal subversion.

  • @Razzy_D9111
    @Razzy_D9111 Месяц назад +216

    As a foreigner seeing how immigration officials treat both nationals and immigrants in the US, and its past history, i would never want to visit even if they paid me to do so.

    • @Shadowtiger2564
      @Shadowtiger2564 Месяц назад +24

      Nothing here is really worth it anyway
      It's beautiful sure, but so are many other places in the world

    • @seanhovan7426
      @seanhovan7426 Месяц назад +20

      Oh good don't come.

    • @seanhovan7426
      @seanhovan7426 Месяц назад

      ​@Shadowtiger2564 lol you don't have freedom of speech anywhere else in the world. I know you democrats hate that

    • @00Platypus00
      @00Platypus00 Месяц назад +34

      ​@@seanhovan7426Your profile picture LMFAO

    • @seanhovan7426
      @seanhovan7426 Месяц назад +11

      @@00Platypus00 your ideals lol

  • @azlanadil3646
    @azlanadil3646 Месяц назад +82

    “You know, I’m starting to thing that people might be starting to politicise the question of letting foreigners into our country”- some Roman, circa 10ce.

    • @stoodmuffinpersonal3144
      @stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Месяц назад

      but the irony is, if Roman's didn't CONCUR EVERYBODY... lol
      Like. "Why are all these Jewish folks in Roman occupied lands?"
      Cause ROME OCCUPIED LANDS, THAT WERE JEWISH. Lol.
      Like.

    • @stoodmuffinpersonal3144
      @stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Месяц назад +16

      "why are all these Celts in Roman lands"
      "cause Roman's conquered the Celts Land." lol

    • @PeterDivine
      @PeterDivine Месяц назад +3

      @@stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Yeah? And how'd that integration work out for them? Oh, right, one of those "Romans" from Germania got a Roman military education, became a general, and then deliberately led an entire legion of Roman soldiers into one of the biggest ambushes ever seen, ending in the wholesale slaughter of over 15,000 Romans and one of the greatest defeats in Roman history.
      Some of us actually know the history you reference so snidely and superficially. Battle of Teutoburg Forest, look it up.

    • @Midwestemoisme
      @Midwestemoisme Месяц назад +5

      @@PeterDivineare u trying to blame the entire population for the mistake of one man?

    • @ethandemille2585
      @ethandemille2585 Месяц назад +7

      @@PeterDivineNone of what you said contradicts the comment you are responding to… If they never wanted any celts or germans to fuck their shit up, maybe they shouldn’t have conquered them??? 😹😹😹

  • @chuchojuarez95
    @chuchojuarez95 Месяц назад +72

    I often watch wisecrack videos while working but realize midway i wanna pay more / full attention.
    So i then gotta either put down the vid or take my lunch break
    Gehe

    • @metaouroboros6324
      @metaouroboros6324 Месяц назад

      If you cut out the MCU humor, then the videos are pretty densely packed with good stuff.

  • @riverofpower5659
    @riverofpower5659 Месяц назад +26

    Michael: Edging is facist
    Me: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IS NOTHING SACRED?!?!?!

  • @RedFish1918
    @RedFish1918 Месяц назад +60

    John Duncan wrote the script?! I knew I sensed similarities with videos on neoliberalism when the video started talking about socially reproductive work being devalued

    • @BobDole1216
      @BobDole1216 Месяц назад +5

      Yeah, I was stoked and not *terribly* surprised in hindsight to find out that he had a big hand in this one; it's cool seeing his influence and voice spreading.

    • @JoseVelazquez-su5nm
      @JoseVelazquez-su5nm Месяц назад

      I was catching the same vibes! I was like "why does this sound extra stupid?" and then I saw that it all made sense.

    • @RedFish1918
      @RedFish1918 Месяц назад

      @@BobDole1216 Agreed

  • @killercat970
    @killercat970 Месяц назад +115

    Loved this comparison of establishment “left” and “right” politics under the framework of neoliberalism. Another Wisecrack W.

    • @dlg5485
      @dlg5485 Месяц назад

      This video reaffirms the fact that there is no establishment left and there never was. In the West, there is only center-right and far-right. The actual left is systematically pushed to the margins and used for bogieman fear mongering.

    • @JerehmiaBoaz
      @JerehmiaBoaz Месяц назад

      Racism isn't a very good explanation for the agreement between establishment "left" and "right" on anti-immigration and closing the borders, the neoliberal establishment has been promoting globalization for decades because of economic efficiency, hence the rise of populism. What the establishment is afraid of is that it's too late to stop climate change and that millions of climate refugees from third world countries in the tropics (where climate change is going to make the land unlivable) are going to enter our countries in a few decades.

    • @manuellopezmejia1063
      @manuellopezmejia1063 Месяц назад +2

      it's tiresome and completely inaccurate

    • @renecruz3623
      @renecruz3623 Месяц назад +3

      @@manuellopezmejia1063why so?

    • @manuellopezmejia1063
      @manuellopezmejia1063 Месяц назад

      @@renecruz3623 Because Michael just calls every "current thing" neoliberalism. He parrots whatever far left commentator says about neoliberalism but has never actually engaged with the subject matter itself. So you get a lot of stupid videos where he just blames everything on the Neoliberal boogeyman.
      Here he's just flat out wrong that neoliberals oppose immigration. Read what neoliberal think tanks like AEI and Cato (centre-right) or The Brookings Institute (centre-left) say about immigration policy. Or even just look at popular contemporary neoliberal commentators like Matt Yglesias who has a book literally titled "One Billion Americans: The Case for Thinking Bigger"

  • @deltaws
    @deltaws Месяц назад +118

    I'll say that as a Mexican American, I can really feel the hate for Mexican immigrants rising in the last couple of years. Im a US citizen and people still tell me horrible things to my face. I dont even really support open borders but people have gotten really nasty.

    • @darrenzhan5302
      @darrenzhan5302 Месяц назад

      Same thing here. All the CCP spy and bribe activity in CA and NY is stirring up anti Asian/Chinese hate when majority of Asian population here has absolutely nothing to do with that regime. Frankly many immigrated here to escape that BS. Ridiculous how politics manages to screw over innocent people.

    • @stoodmuffinpersonal3144
      @stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Месяц назад +10

      But like. I could understand why YOU would have more hate for US based on we treat you guys!
      Like. You haven't done shit to me! Outside of point out our Mexican food, and even our text Mexican, is fake as hell. You haven't done anything wrong!

    • @stoodmuffinpersonal3144
      @stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Месяц назад

      I have some concerns of "opened borders."
      But. Am I doing the labour that mant migrants are often coerced to do? Am I going to fix the falling birth rate (no, lol), like. My ancestors didn't come to this land peacefully, but we expect everyone else to be peaceful when they get here, even when we blow up their countries first! It's Absurd.
      But that doesn't seem to stop what's coming. Stay safe my friend. Please be careful.

    • @abandonedfragmentofhope5415
      @abandonedfragmentofhope5415 Месяц назад +24

      @@stoodmuffinpersonal3144Well he is an American why should he be mistreated when he’s not a Mexican immigrant but an American.

    • @Martcapt
      @Martcapt Месяц назад +1

      ​@@abandonedfragmentofhope5415 idk anything about the guy, but you can be a naturalized migrant. They're not exclusive terms.
      I don't mean anything by it, just that they're not exclusive terms.

  • @victoralessandro2972
    @victoralessandro2972 Месяц назад +43

    I'm thankful for this video, the message deeply resonated with me. Here in Europe the rhetoric of a dichotomy between refugees and economic migrants is proliferating itself. We need to stop treating people as idiots, if they come in to live in a city such as Marseille with many others lumped off in small spaces and working underpaid jobs, even if they were once ignorant of the conditions they'd be subject to, that's usually the choice they made. I'm from Brazil, where dozens of millions have experienced hunger in their lives, I can't even imagine how are the conditions of the poorest in Africa, but I can say that many prefer humiliation over hunger. Heck, isnt that why so many "hapless" jobs exist: s** work, construction under the sun... Frankly, many of my colleagues from high school studied a lot, were selected amongst thousands to get into uni, work more hours per week but are still highly unlikely to be getting France's minimum wage. But if that's Brazil, a supposedly middle income country, how much worse is it elsewhere ? Tiring.
    The style of life advertised by the global core is unaffordable and unsustainable. You can treat us as the enemy all you want, but your castle is built on sand. The quietly working ants are not the cause of it's instability, maybe won't even be the trigger of it's inevitable downfall. Just remember fellow worker, in this society we may be at the scathing bottom, but without us they'd try to put you in here.

    • @Hi_times_2
      @Hi_times_2 Месяц назад

      As long as you don’t cause problems for my country. I don’t really care about refugees or immigrants. I don’t care what happens to them.

  • @o1ecypher
    @o1ecypher Месяц назад +48

    “We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.”
    ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    • @_cat_0w0
      @_cat_0w0 Месяц назад +9

      Quoting an overt fascist on a video with a very antifascist sentiment is certainly something.

    • @R0CKDRIG0
      @R0CKDRIG0 Месяц назад

      @@_cat_0w0 Opposing the totalitarian Soviet Union makes you a facist now?

    • @decentralizeddemocracy8335
      @decentralizeddemocracy8335 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@_cat_0w0you really don't like it when people expose communist regimes for what they are, do you?

    • @00Platypus00
      @00Platypus00 Месяц назад +7

      @@R0CKDRIG0 No. Nothing wrong with opposing the state capitalism of the USSR per se. The other stuff he defended makes him at least fascist sympathizer: monarchy, slavic-supremacy, anti-Semitism, apologia for Franco, etc.

    • @PeterDivine
      @PeterDivine Месяц назад

      @@00Platypus00 The fucking _Soviet defector, ex-KGB agent_ is a fascist now?
      Christ on a bike, dude, even if that was true (and I'm being very generous granting that,) your bald-faced _ad hominems_ don't detract from the truth of what he's saying here.

  • @DC-wk7yo
    @DC-wk7yo Месяц назад +21

    Love JohntheDuncan! So nuanced and brings in all the ripples. Great work!! ❤️

  • @k31than
    @k31than Месяц назад +20

    You know that things has already taken a turn for the worst when the word "immigrant" (be it legal or illegal) leaves a bad taste in the mouth or makes someone uncomfortable because they immediately think of people who have a tendency to commit a crime (i.e. steal, m-der, r-pe) and not people who just decided to leave their country (usually out of desperation) out of fear of their government and disappointment of the country's economic state.

    • @maxwallace9491
      @maxwallace9491 Месяц назад +2

      Working at Ellis Island and so many people will excitedly tell me about their relatives that came through there and why. But it all feels so hollow when the way we treat immigrants and refugees now is so awful. The fact that it is a museum now, set up in the mostly abandoned complex is very sadly fitting.

    • @geofflepper3207
      @geofflepper3207 Месяц назад +5

      I don't think about crimes or other bad behavior when I hear the word immigrant.
      I think the problem generally starts in the mind of the person who automatically thinks of crime when they hear the word immigrant.

    • @_cat_0w0
      @_cat_0w0 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@geofflepper3207the problem starts when those with popular influence such as politicians and the media create those associations as means of protecting the status quo or developing it in their favour and to garner profit. It's from there that the public are influenced by these institutions and respond accordingly. We should also keep in mind the natural tendency towards white supremacy that arises from living in the imperial core too which is utilised by said media and politicians for their own ends.

    • @jero667
      @jero667 Месяц назад +1

      Take a look at the statistics in the UK. Now tell me, is it a synonym for crime and poverty or not? Don't be cynical.

  • @obokengm788
    @obokengm788 Месяц назад +23

    As a south african, this is why I'll never move overseas. No point in going where I'm not wanted, rather stay and prevent this kind of rhetoric from getting worse in my own country towards african immigrants

    • @TheMrShnickers
      @TheMrShnickers Месяц назад

      If you’re South African pls tell your countrymen to stop murdering white farmers in the dead of night thanks.
      -from an American

  • @RoyJERaiy
    @RoyJERaiy Месяц назад +15

    As someone who immigrated 2 years ago to canada and to quebec specifically. I feel both the province and country breathing down my neck.
    New laws being added on the daily to make immigration that much harder and to make becoming a citizen equally as hard.
    I left lebanon because it was in financial ruin and I can't go to Ukraine because I'd be sent to war (even though I am diabetic)
    I share this as a way to vent my frustration over it all. For I merely wish to be able to live my life but entities more powerful than me deny me that opportunity.

    • @RoyJERaiy
      @RoyJERaiy Месяц назад

      I do want to add a note that I have dual nationalities.

    • @K1ng1995
      @K1ng1995 Месяц назад

      ​@@RoyJERaiy as someone who's born in Victoria BC Canada. I am genuinely sorry about what your going through. It's worse out in the west

    • @RoyJERaiy
      @RoyJERaiy Месяц назад

      @@K1ng1995 Shame that this is the case. Hope you're doing okay on your end at least and there's nothing to apologize for. Politicians are beyond the average bloke's control.

    • @K1ng1995
      @K1ng1995 Месяц назад

      @@RoyJERaiy
      The problem is a bunch of things out here. It started going downhill when lockdown happened and everyone in Vancouver, they all moved to Vancouver Island and the island sad to say doesn't have the capacity right now to handle everyone.

    • @bobwinters5572
      @bobwinters5572 Месяц назад

      If you want to have a country you have to be willing to fight for it. If you don't, someone else will, and it will be their country, not yours.

  • @TheoEstes
    @TheoEstes Месяц назад +39

    I would really recommend Crack Up Capitalism by Quinn Slobodian. It’s specifically about “special economic zones,” but a large part of his analysis is about how racial minorities often make up the underclass supporting the wealth. He talks a lot about Singapore, which uses a lot of non-citizen migrants for labor when the economy is good but deports them when the economy fails. Most of these economic zones are located in former European colonies. Really recommend this book!

  • @litterbox2010
    @litterbox2010 Месяц назад +27

    BTW: Australia also has "Stop the boats" and "Fuck off we're full" campaigns as a core feature of our 1 (out of 2) dominant political parties.

    • @definitlynotbenlente7671
      @definitlynotbenlente7671 Месяц назад +13

      australia full? your entire country is almost completely empty

    • @ValiantGoat
      @ValiantGoat Месяц назад +5

      based

    • @Dogtrio
      @Dogtrio Месяц назад +8

      Which is so funny when your population density is the lowest in the world. Its pretty indicative that xenophobia isnt actually based on material conditions.

    • @metalheadlass9868
      @metalheadlass9868 Месяц назад +10

      @@definitlynotbenlente7671most of Australia is uninhabitable

    • @jero667
      @jero667 Месяц назад

      Wait until you get "culturally enriched" by the monkeys globalists send to your nation. You'll see

  • @NikkLiberos
    @NikkLiberos Месяц назад +26

    Just an FYI. The right won't enforce any mass deportation schemes.
    His ilk benefit GREATLY from employing people who cannot negotiate a fair salary and cannot pay taxes or Social Security on their earnings.

    • @PeterDivine
      @PeterDivine Месяц назад

      By your own tacit admission, this is effectively confirming that immigrants coming here will either take jobs from middle-class Americans who would otherwise rely on them for employment, or will enroll them in slavery/indentured servitude with terrible pay and no workers' rights, which will be miserable for them and will lower wages for everyone else. "Why would I employ you for minimum wage of $15 an hour when Pablo there will do it for half the value under threat of deportation back to a cartel-dominated hellhole that will kill him on sight?"
      Not exactly getting the job creators coming in with the migrants sneaking under border fences.

    • @Dogtrio
      @Dogtrio Месяц назад +10

      You say that but desantis did attempt to do just that. Sometimes the fascist catches the car and has to keep going.

    • @Hi_times_2
      @Hi_times_2 Месяц назад +1

      @@DogtrioWhat makes it fascist and not authoritarian or totalitarian? Can you even define fascism?

    • @LoveStrangeDr
      @LoveStrangeDr Месяц назад

      @@Hi_times_2 are you a facist apologist?

    • @ittna5927
      @ittna5927 Месяц назад +3

      Colonialism turned inward.

  • @remirichard6901
    @remirichard6901 Месяц назад +30

    Great first script. The conclusion about liberalism converging to various forms of fascism would be interesting to explore. I've heard examples of communists during the beginning of the Cold War making points similar so it would be interesting to have a video weighing both extremes of the debate like "is liberal democracy doomed to fascism?".

    • @MrBobthened
      @MrBobthened Месяц назад

      Stalin literally said in 1924, “Fascism is not only a military-technical category. Fascism is the bourgeoisie's fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism”!

  • @dougrattmann3554
    @dougrattmann3554 Месяц назад +76

    It's funny how quickly everyone comments on this, as if they somehow watched the whole video already.

    • @estebanleon5826
      @estebanleon5826 Месяц назад +4

      The fact that it’s a question is already dumb. Most people lock their doors when there are many people are around. Only broke people want people who have stuff to give it to them.

    • @dougrattmann3554
      @dougrattmann3554 Месяц назад +16

      @@estebanleon5826 whether you agree with it or not, there are plenty of people who disagree with the idea of borders. That warrants a discussion.

    • @00Platypus00
      @00Platypus00 Месяц назад +25

      ​@@estebanleon5826That is one of the most stupid things I read this week

    • @estebanleon5826
      @estebanleon5826 Месяц назад +3

      Okay, let them lead by example by keeping their homes and doors open and let anyone come in without knowing who they are. Let them lead by example. Plenty of homeless people. No questions asked too.

    • @estebanleon5826
      @estebanleon5826 Месяц назад +3

      @@00Platypus00yes, it’s so stupid that most of the world has borders like I stated. Yes, stupid.

  • @johnnyr25
    @johnnyr25 Месяц назад +77

    The so-called "pro-life" sentiment from the right makes so much more sense now. It's less caring for babies (we knew that already as help for struggling mothers was threadbare) and more about ensuring grist for the mill of capitalism.

    • @estebanleon5826
      @estebanleon5826 Месяц назад +10

      Or more about people taking responsibility for their actions. Maybe it’s about people are grown adults and babies don’t have to be deleted to avoid responsibility. Stats say that’s the reason.

    • @dplocksmith91
      @dplocksmith91 Месяц назад

      It's actually about racism. They want more white people to be born to prevent the so-called "great replacement"

    • @LonkinPork
      @LonkinPork Месяц назад

      nothing says that's the reason Esteban, you just hate women

    • @MapacheOculto
      @MapacheOculto Месяц назад +19

      @@estebanleon5826 *fetuses

    • @gokuformanvsfood
      @gokuformanvsfood Месяц назад +18

      ​@@estebanleon5826stats also say the abortion rates and teen preganancy have halved since the 90s(before roe v wade was over turned) but you guys scream louder than ever about it

  • @X_TheHuntsman_X
    @X_TheHuntsman_X Месяц назад +25

    Love John's work. Glad y'all collaborated on this one. ♥️

  • @Byak10
    @Byak10 Месяц назад +7

    Immigration wont work if neither side compromise to accept their problems, you both need immigration and control while respecting human rights.

  • @Jakeurb8ty82
    @Jakeurb8ty82 Месяц назад +8

    IBM knows all about developing tools for categorizing people...

  • @rogerreger9631
    @rogerreger9631 Месяц назад +26

    I dont really see the border ever really having any conclusion of being closed, cutoff, or solved. since a lot of companies and farmlands use migrants for their primarily labour, these jobs that migrants get put into are tough, dirty, and low paying jobs that have no protections that a normal job have. I know people say that foreigners steal jobs from Americans but the jobs that get "stolen" are jobs that Americans dont want to do, for example working as farmhand. hand picking crops that cant be harvested by tractors or by machines so you need people to pick-up those crops by hand and carry them to the truck. Where your out in the sun all day bending over and lifting heavy baskets of produce getting paid .80 cents by the pound of what you harvested. the border wont ever really be closed or secured since it produces a cheap workforce that is easily exploited for profit gains. and politicians need to have border crisis every election cycle so that they have a platform to run on, just look back to all the other past presidential administrations whenever there was a "border crisis" and how they said they were going to solve it, they never did. the border crisis is just political ammunition to use to get elected.

  • @00Platypus00
    @00Platypus00 Месяц назад +37

    The amount of comments comparing borders to doors one supposedly locks at night is just...something. The idea that a nation state is comparable to a residence someone owns should be ridiculous, but here we are. No one owns a country, and the point of the video is precisely discussing how things could be. Nation states are, as the video discusses, a recent development and it is worth discussing if that is the best way to do things.
    Great video!!
    Similar to capitalist realism, "nation-state realism" seems to be a thing as well... I wish people could see further, both to past history and to future possibilities.
    P.S.: people also miss the fact that how property is arranged and owned in our societies is also a point of discussion and a recent development.

    • @estebanleon5826
      @estebanleon5826 Месяц назад +8

      The citizens own the country. Citizens. They pay for what you have. That’s democracy.

    • @00Platypus00
      @00Platypus00 Месяц назад +8

      @@estebanleon5826 "Democracy is when citizens own the country and pay for what you have." Aristotle

    • @Damphouse
      @Damphouse Месяц назад +5

      When you have to use words like should/could/possibilities, it shows your arguments are more centralized around ideals than reality. Exploitation of border issues is obviously a problem, if that was the original title of the video, the comment section wouldn't even be comparing borders to doors (which is a much more reasonable comparison than you're making it out to be). Borders and nations exist for a reason and thinking the world would work properly/civilly if they were done away with is thinking way too highly of humanity's propensity for good will. Borders/Nations aren't just something that can be used to promote totalitarianism, they're also a shield to protect your people from it on a global scale. A lot of civilizations in human history have been exploited for being too trusting of travelers with impure intentions (those travelers that exploited these said civilizations eventually evolved into the nations that are now being accused of using border issues to propagate fascism). Humans should be more trustworthy and you shouldn't have to lock your doors from your neighbors, but that's not how things are.

    • @00Platypus00
      @00Platypus00 Месяц назад +3

      @@Damphouse The video discusses such reasons. Did you watch it or you just read the title?

    • @CaptainCJ97
      @CaptainCJ97 Месяц назад +1

      I don't see the problem those all seem pretty reasonable replies

  • @SuaNam08
    @SuaNam08 Месяц назад +25

    From my perspective as a black American US citizen, I’ve always been split on this issue.
    Even though the neoliberal stance on illegal immigration in America is very exploitative, I also have limited energy about the issue, especially in light of other issues more relevant to my daily life.
    For one thing, I feel that all modern nation-states (if we’re going to have them at all)have a right to enforce their borders. It’s nonsensical to demand America dissolve its borders and not control the flow of migrants into the country, while most other countries have no such demands made of them.
    And for another, it’s definitely worth noting that while immigration policy is racialized here in America, it’s racialized everywhere else too. I know full well that a group of migrants that looked like me would never be welcome in Mexico or any other Latin country. The antiblackness of most other countries is much worse than here.
    My relative privilege as an English-speaking US citizen is what shields me from being treated how everyone else treats Haitian and African refugees and even black citizens of Latin countries : with prejudice, contempt, and cruelty.
    So, I care about the issue, but the prospect of a large influx of immigrants from societies even more antiblack than mine, doesn’t make me leap for joy, sorry, though I care about their human rights.

    • @K1ng1995
      @K1ng1995 Месяц назад +4

      I think personally it's all about Balance

    • @mig5l
      @mig5l Месяц назад +6

      Have you been to other countries?

    • @dangerousd1312
      @dangerousd1312 Месяц назад +2

      Intersectionality

    • @mig5l
      @mig5l Месяц назад +4

      @@dangerousd1312 that literally mean nothing to me. And honestly, I see that as a bad word as I have seen that word used to attack me as a "withe european male"

    • @whathell6t
      @whathell6t Месяц назад

      @@mig5l
      But you’re not European.
      Hell! You still do Irish, Italian, Yiddish, French, and Polish stereotypes at bad faith.

  • @drewsorenson4328
    @drewsorenson4328 Месяц назад +8

    Love JohntheDuncan and excited to see his writing here on wisecrack.

  • @yeet4073
    @yeet4073 Месяц назад +10

    John Duncan's script was AWESOME. Thanks Michael for awesome delivery also!!!

  • @MatthewShannonEco
    @MatthewShannonEco Месяц назад +14

    Work sucks, but thank you for making this video. I enjoy seeing what you guys do. You make amazing videos.

  • @CrazyMama75
    @CrazyMama75 Месяц назад +18

    Well its harder to maintain white supremacy and white controlled positions of power if people actually see each other as equals and cooperate. Heaven forbid people of all races and cultures get along, then we'd be more likely to turn against our governments that use the divide and conquer tactics to excuse their harmful policies. We all so easily foget that we wouldn't have the massive economies we have now if it weren't for immigration, they help keep the workforce competitive and keep population (and aka tax income) higher as people have less children. And cultural sharing helps encourage productivity and business development, through sharing ideas and problem solvong skills.

    • @K1ng1995
      @K1ng1995 Месяц назад

      I recommend watching the Movie Do the Right Thing.

    • @shoxx48
      @shoxx48 Месяц назад

      ​@@K1ng1995- Yo Sal! Put some extra cheese on that m*****f***** man!

    • @algernonsidney8746
      @algernonsidney8746 Месяц назад

      "We all so easily foget that we wouldn't have the massive economies we have now if it weren't for immigration" That's not entirely true due a thing called automation which the Japanese have used.

  • @deviousxen
    @deviousxen Месяц назад +31

    Original title 'are borders fascist?'

    • @estebanleon5826
      @estebanleon5826 Месяц назад +14

      That’s what they really wanted to push too.

    • @Cookiekeks
      @Cookiekeks Месяц назад +5

      @@estebanleon5826 The nation state is an inherently reactionary concept. It's no wonder fascists allude to it so often.

    • @Cookiekeks
      @Cookiekeks Месяц назад

      @@estebanleon5826 The nation state is an inherently reactionary concept. It's no wonder fascists allude to it so often.

    • @Hi_times_2
      @Hi_times_2 Месяц назад +6

      ⁠@@CookiekeksBut how are borders fascist? What’s a nation state? Why does this matter?

    • @SvalbardSleeperDistrict
      @SvalbardSleeperDistrict Месяц назад

      @@Hi_times_2 When you destabilise, coup, invade, occupy and destroy countries and poorest people around the world to max out profits for your corporations by giving them access to resources of those places, and then the people in those places that have been made unliveable have to leave their homes and move, and you erect walls and prohibit them from accessing slices of the wealth you've built in your walled castle using their resources, what else can that be called other than "fascist" borders?

  • @CommanderNewton
    @CommanderNewton Месяц назад +3

    In New Zealand our conservative party is pro immigration while our left party has always been in the side of limited immigration. Kind of funny really

  • @The_fusion_physics_guy
    @The_fusion_physics_guy Месяц назад +1

    "do they really matter? I don't know, but then sometimes you get to go to the doctor because of it."
    I wanna cry

  • @Alexclermontwrites
    @Alexclermontwrites Месяц назад +3

    Great episode. The music gets a little too loud at some points. Didn’t even realize you guys had background tunes until this episode.

  • @wen6519
    @wen6519 Месяц назад +1

    John the Duncan's channel is awesome 🙌🏽 nice coverage of European nonsense too. That last bit on your heart not needing a passport to give us love, like it was a bit, but somehow it touched me too much 😂 bro i cant even get a passport thank you for still loving me parasocially 😂

  • @dangerousdays2052
    @dangerousdays2052 Месяц назад +7

    No, just no. You live in an oligarchy, not a democracy. 🙄🙄

    • @Cookiekeks
      @Cookiekeks Месяц назад

      America is infact still a democracy. Lets keep it that way by voting please.

    • @dangerousdays2052
      @dangerousdays2052 Месяц назад +4

      @@Cookiekeks

    • @Cookiekeks
      @Cookiekeks Месяц назад

      @@dangerousdays2052 I don't know what you're refering to. I'm well aware there's money flowing to sway the elections. I'm well aware there's foreign influence and systemic flaws in the american democracy, but it's still a democracy, and needs to be protected. Why would you say otherwise?

    • @hydrogeddonn
      @hydrogeddonn Месяц назад

      I can't wait for my cyberpunk prosthetics

    • @thebigdawgj
      @thebigdawgj Месяц назад +1

      ​@Cookiekeks
      No it isn't.

  • @Rath_Burn
    @Rath_Burn Месяц назад +15

    The labour shortage is not a worker problem, its a wage problem. There are people willing to work, but we don't want to work for the dog $#!+ rates the muliti million/billion dollar companies want to pay. When i asked for a raise, i was flat out told no, no negotiation no consideration. When i brought it up with a coworker they said if i left, they'ed fill my role within a week. Experience and loyalty are not worth anything anymore.

    • @harambe2552
      @harambe2552 Месяц назад

      Companies only pay what they pay because people aren't willing to pay the higher prices for the goods and services that would result from paying people more

    • @SageWon-1aussie
      @SageWon-1aussie Месяц назад +8

      ​@@harambe2552Record profits says that's some BS...

    • @pointfrogg
      @pointfrogg Месяц назад +3

      @@SageWon-1aussie After YEARS of record profits.

    • @stevenruyf4044
      @stevenruyf4044 Месяц назад

      Or you are just not worth paying more for. If you can be replaced in less than a week you're not exactly irreplaceable

    • @Cookiekeks
      @Cookiekeks Месяц назад

      @@stevenruyf4044 Not worth for the capitalists means you can't be exploited for a profit anymore if they paid you fairly.

  • @yesiamanerd2040
    @yesiamanerd2040 Месяц назад +5

    before the quiz response: I think it will qualify

  • @allisonseamiller
    @allisonseamiller Месяц назад +5

    Crazy idea, bad pitch: let's have a contest, where countries compete, ideally in terms of which government is least evil, but it could be soccer or something if people prefer. After each match, the loser is absorbed into a winner, until there's just one country, again, ideally the least evil government (Maybe New Zealand?) but soccer would also be fine, who knows who it'll be then. Eliminating countries one match at a time and they all get to become part of a better country, over and over, until we're all one country, no borders needed.

  • @Dastreus
    @Dastreus Месяц назад +1

    "That's right, edging is fascist" nearly spat my drink

  • @Eltener123
    @Eltener123 Месяц назад +39

    Nobody in the UK was calling the Conservative party fascist. There was a fascist rhetoric element to the Reform party but the election was very much about economic stagnation, the health service and corruption

    • @_cat_0w0
      @_cat_0w0 Месяц назад

      Plenty of people were calling the Conservatives fascists, especially due to the Rwanda plan and the rising transphobia and bigotry within the party. Let's at least remember that the 15% of people in the UK who voted for reform this election mostly all voted for the conservatives last election in order to "get Brexit done", backed largely by anti-immigrant sentiment. They've been pandering towards that 15% of voters ever since, leaning further into their reactionary extremes.

  • @taotaostrong
    @taotaostrong Месяц назад

    Excellent breakdown. The needle keeps moving on “liberal” language and definitions. I appreciate this discussion.

  • @twipameyer1210
    @twipameyer1210 Месяц назад +4

    John the Duncan writes for you and made a video on neoliberalism? Can't wait to see the upcomming video about genocide!

  • @LoveReacts
    @LoveReacts Месяц назад +1

    Big shoutout to JohnTheDuncan for writing this ep! 10/10

  • @liangflrs02
    @liangflrs02 Месяц назад +5

    I find it utterly ridiculous that in the aftermath of colonialism by the British and other European nations who r*aped, pillaged, and stole lives, resources, and illegally went to foreign shores to do all of this. Now they have a problem with people of a different religion and melanin rich skin coming to their shores seeking to have a better life after all the resources were sucked up by said colonizing nations. It's essentially I can do whatever I want in your home, but don't you dare come into mine to and try to share in the spoils that I stole from you... k then yeah that's logical 😒

  • @emiliorodriguez61
    @emiliorodriguez61 Месяц назад +4

    Lately, you guys are on 🔥 🔥

  • @kirkspaziani
    @kirkspaziani Месяц назад +36

    Thanks for saying “since the pandemic started” rather than past tensing it

    • @Xokzu
      @Xokzu Месяц назад

      Sadly it's a pandemic of more than just a virus

    • @metaouroboros6324
      @metaouroboros6324 Месяц назад

      I live in western USA, is the pandemic still a thing?

    • @kirkspaziani
      @kirkspaziani Месяц назад

      @@metaouroboros6324 i can tell you got the brain damage

    • @Xokzu
      @Xokzu Месяц назад

      @@metaouroboros6324 idk, apparently. In all the places you'd expect, of course.

    • @metaouroboros6324
      @metaouroboros6324 Месяц назад

      @@Xokzu I'd expect it to be here if it's still going around. But I do think I'm in a giant bubble, that's why I ask.

  • @jurneymetatron6871
    @jurneymetatron6871 Месяц назад +67

    Not being silly here, but a world without borders sounds so flipping cool.

    • @kevinwillems8720
      @kevinwillems8720 Месяц назад +10

      It sounds Hella sick

    • @USSAnimeNCC-
      @USSAnimeNCC- Месяц назад +2

      Especially whe you add how every nation is doing border

    • @rjtheripper931
      @rjtheripper931 Месяц назад +8

      So it's ok for me to come into space and do whatever I want.

    • @definitlynotbenlente7671
      @definitlynotbenlente7671 Месяц назад +1

      we are a long way aay from that mabey in a few hundred years we will have system like the eu but for the whole planet

    • @breakerdawn8429
      @breakerdawn8429 Месяц назад +4

      It already exist in the old days, you just gotta conquer all of your lands that's all. The Roman Empire had huge swath of land by conquering other places.

  • @Tom-tz5ed
    @Tom-tz5ed Месяц назад +2

    I'm shook you actually used the word gooner 😂😂😂

  • @nathanielgallimore8928
    @nathanielgallimore8928 Месяц назад +6

    Just boosting the algorithm

  • @Fenrisson
    @Fenrisson Месяц назад +3

    19:22 - I'll take a tequila and do a shot for each "yes". Let's go!

  • @outspeaker1229
    @outspeaker1229 29 дней назад +1

    18:47 Neoliberalism has had authoritarian tendencies from the beginning of its implementation. One of the first places it was tried was Augusto Pinochet's military dictatorship (who's economic platform was made by the Chicago Boys.)

  • @keywolf23
    @keywolf23 Месяц назад +11

    Interesting focus on America's southern border. Almost as if, historically, the global south has been routinely thrown into disarray for the purposes of maintaining a hegemony of sanitation and convenience as a lifestyle by those creating those borders.

  • @whzbwkkfu
    @whzbwkkfu Месяц назад

    Dane here, and we had somewhat similar plans with Rwanda as the UK, except we were focusing on opening reception centers from migrants "offshore". The idea is to have the people who would otherwise undertake the dangerous crossing of the Mediterranean Sea in overfilled rubber boats, go to refugee receptions centers in Africa and wait there while their asylum applications are being processed. Over 3000 migrants and asylum seekers died crossing the sea in just 2023.

  • @EdyGlockenspiel
    @EdyGlockenspiel Месяц назад +3

    Basically, we fucked.

  • @snipermonkey2517
    @snipermonkey2517 Месяц назад +1

    Loved the video! More from this writer please!

  • @alexandroutsos5990
    @alexandroutsos5990 Месяц назад +3

    I am from downtown Toronto I understand multiculturalism. I also understand history and the odds of a nation coming out the other end of a demographic crisis are very slim.
    History says that over 25% demographics change in a generation is the maximum people can handle without snapping and harming the new minority

  • @jonathangibson9482
    @jonathangibson9482 Месяц назад

    Good first script from the new guy! I am filled with ominous dread.

  • @PalmelaHanderson
    @PalmelaHanderson Месяц назад +10

    I honestly think you can't be both fully pro-capitalist and anti-globalist at the same time. There's no putting that genie back in the bottle, big business would never let that happen. So it seems weird to me that the same people who argue for closed borders also argue for unregulated capitalism. The two are incompatible.

    • @Dogtrio
      @Dogtrio Месяц назад +3

      Its the same people who say "well buisness owners get all the money because they are taking all of the risk" and then regulate all the risk away from the owners and onto society. Meanwhile you can only be an owner if you are born with capital or get lucky.

    • @javierc4967
      @javierc4967 Месяц назад

      ⁠​⁠@@DogtrioBusiness owners don’t “get all the money”. Where I live, half of that money goes to taxes, insurance, superannuation, and on top of all that, you have to reinvest that made money to keep the business going.

  • @tomiodatanuki7600
    @tomiodatanuki7600 Месяц назад

    I love the way you folks make me laugh AND cry at the same time! 😂💚😭💚😂

  • @shacharias
    @shacharias Месяц назад +20

    Fascism is easy to define. Read Mussolini's (and Gentile's) "The Doctrine of Fascism." In any case, Fascism is an expression of statecraft, which is a more fundamental idea to analyze. The spectrum of statecraft generally features borders of some kind, which are implemented to keep people (and other things) out, but importantly also to keep people (and other things) in. States also practically universally rely on and institute forms of unfree labor, from conscription and corvée to serfdom and slavery, especially to maintain the sovereign core, and this historically has involved conquest and war, with a major outcome being the seizure of not only new territories but of people who become part of the state's labor force. That also can mean borders are not static, nor are they limited to simple walls, fences, mountains, rivers, or coasts. With nation-states, there is an aim to maintain the "nation" as a political majority within the borders of the state, even if within that territory the "nation" is a minority of the population. The nation-state would be inclined to disenfranchise or deport that population to secure the sovereignty of the "nation," which appears variously as an ethnic, religious, or racial group and/or as a class, specifically an enfranchised or political class. And as some of the mindless commenters here have implied, indeed statecraft does relate closely to the development of material exclusion and (private) property. This is to say borders aren't really a question of Fascism but of the State, and on a basic level we should ask why one would take (private) property as given, as though it were merely "natural" to build a little fence around a territory to keep others out and "natural" to lock the gate for the same purpose. How does one know if this is "human nature," as is so often claimed, rather than the product of an existence within the State form that develops such a mentality to the advantage of the State?

    • @killercat970
      @killercat970 Месяц назад +1

      Incredible take. Thanks for sharing.

    • @decentralizeddemocracy8335
      @decentralizeddemocracy8335 Месяц назад +5

      You are free to let people come to your private property. But you won't. Rather you want them to come to my property. How convenient.

    • @shacharias
      @shacharias Месяц назад

      It ain't that simple, friend. Nobody's coming to barge through your personal front door, and nobody is demanding you open it. Certainly, it's great to open up privately-held lands on a personal level, particularly as a movement toward a broader "right to roam." In my own neighborhood, we're discussing opening some private breezeways and service alleys, including cutting down a few pieces of fence, to make safer routes for local kids to walk, skate, and bike to and from our nearby schools, and generally to make the area more pedestrian-friendly. Bigger picture, there is no overnight dissolution of borders and restrictions on movement-these are social impositions that will have to be eroded, and it'll realistically take a long time, potentially never being fully accomplished. And it will necessitate a flourishing of bottom-up direct democracy in towns, cities, and even unincorporated communities everywhere, paired with a new municipalist agenda that strengthens local and regional systems of mutual help, public education (broadly speaking), and common ownership through municipal institutions (like popular assemblies or town meetings) from the neighborhood to the city level, which can be organized on a larger scale on a confederal basis with other municipalities. In any case, I always like to recommend Thomas Paine's short treatise on "Agrarian Justice" as a helpful starting point for thinking about the issue of private property and the enclosure of common lands.

    • @Hi_times_2
      @Hi_times_2 Месяц назад

      @@shachariasSo basically socialism? What do you mean “direct democracy”? Do you live in America?

    • @Hi_times_2
      @Hi_times_2 Месяц назад

      I disagree. Fascism is not easy to define. Even today, it remains a complex concept with various definitions proposed by different groups.
      A system may exhibit certain fascist qualities, but that doesn’t necessarily make it fascist.
      Are you suggesting that having borders or private property is inherently fascist?

  • @TheKennoarkkan
    @TheKennoarkkan Месяц назад +2

    Man this one was more depressing than usual. Solid work though.

  • @fateddespair5848
    @fateddespair5848 Месяц назад +8

    "Kamala has been fighting border crime for years" I actually got a chuckle out of that one.

  • @DankoStojanovic
    @DankoStojanovic Месяц назад

    17:54 Michael, what you do does matter. The first step in fixing the largest issues we have today is education. It might just as well be the only really difficult step too. That is where you step in. What you do matters more than you can imagine

  • @chuchojuarez95
    @chuchojuarez95 Месяц назад +9

    12:00 that Rudolph video goes hard
    It blew my mind when i first saw it

  • @byrongsmith
    @byrongsmith Месяц назад +1

    Love the new writer. JtD's a keeper!

  • @TheAllSeeingEye2468
    @TheAllSeeingEye2468 Месяц назад +3

    I don't care about any of this. Im not rich enough

  • @noahrenken3773
    @noahrenken3773 Месяц назад +2

    Great content, keep it up!

  • @raduflp
    @raduflp Месяц назад +3

    The background music is a bit too loud and becomes distracting. Maybe half the volume?

  • @perer005
    @perer005 Месяц назад +1

    Whenever you aren't weaponizing a topic you are leaving money on the table...

  • @llsilvertail561
    @llsilvertail561 Месяц назад +3

    Yooo!!! I (parasocially) know JohntheDuncan!!!! His stuff is great.

  • @Ginjabreadman17
    @Ginjabreadman17 Месяц назад +2

    good job john duncan 👍

  • @Damphouse
    @Damphouse Месяц назад +13

    The title was changed from "Are Borders Fascist?" to "How Politicians Weaponize Migrants" and I'd be very surprised if that wasn't intentional. It's no surprise the comment section is so chaotic.
    To answer the question of the original title: No, borders are not fascist. If the title had been "Are border issues being used as a veil to propagate fascist ideals?" then there would've at least been a conversation worth having, but that wouldn't bring in engagement so I get why that level of nuance was avoided in the title. There's nothing wrong with the idea of national borders in modern times when you consider everything that happened during the 1900s over the span of World war 1 through the Cold War. A closed door can still be opened after all; it's better to be safe/vigillant than sorry. Obviously that rhetoric can be (and often is) abused and weaponized to very harmful degrees but it's not arbitrarily cruel to pursue national security.
    As for the 2nd title of the video, I do agree there are a lot of underlying problems with the border issue and the treatment of migrants (especially those who didn't have a say in their migration). I don't think loosening border issues will actually cut out the root issue, it'll just trim certain branches and elongate others. These issues existed (with much higher severity) before border/migration rhetoric was an issue; the motivation for that type of exploitation has been around since the beginning of time and will be propagated through another speakerbox if this one's mitigated. You can't suffocate a snake, but I guess you can try to chop away at it bit by bit.

    • @LonkinPork
      @LonkinPork Месяц назад +1

      every youtube channel does that with video titles, to try to get ahead of the Algorithm™

    • @thelordakira
      @thelordakira Месяц назад +1

      our channel is arg at the moment, how can we increase engagement? got it change the title after publishing.

    • @Damphouse
      @Damphouse Месяц назад +1

      @@LonkinPork Yeah I don't necessarily blame them bc it's hard to get content recognized nowadays. But it can be pretty chaotic/misleading, especially when the content is political

    • @fateddespair5848
      @fateddespair5848 Месяц назад

      I'd like to hear when the border was at higher severity than under Biden/Kamala.

    • @romanski5811
      @romanski5811 Месяц назад +5

      Why are you automatically excluding any talk about the potential of borders being fascist in nature?

  • @lennaertvanmierlo2955
    @lennaertvanmierlo2955 Месяц назад +1

    That was the lamest definition of fascism ever…😂

  • @noahrenken3773
    @noahrenken3773 Месяц назад +5

    RUclips’s woke self is suppressing this video’s true potential in the algorithm :(

  • @finleycmacalpine2473
    @finleycmacalpine2473 5 дней назад

    Damnnn, this is the perf time to talk about indigenous rights and LAND BACK

  • @shaunmodipane1
    @shaunmodipane1 Месяц назад +4

    I have Mad Respect For Micheal For fighting against promoting betterhelp, Micheal For President!!

  • @Leahcimmichael
    @Leahcimmichael Месяц назад

    Keep up the great work. This videos always makes my reading list grow

  • @rjtheripper931
    @rjtheripper931 Месяц назад +5

    Homie its about the money. A lot of people don't have that right now and illegal immigrants make that worse. The boot is what needs to be given.

    • @_cat_0w0
      @_cat_0w0 Месяц назад +1

      It is about money. Neoliberalism has failed the common people and has artificially depressed their wages, and so they want solutions. Neoliberalism entails the global free market which entails mass immigration from poorer countries to countries where capital is concentrated in one place. The people, instead of fighting the neoliberal structure which is at the root of it, see more easily the immigrants, enabled by an already existing white supremacy ALSO created through neoliberalism, along side the nations-state which too is also perpetuated by neoliberalism, and so they wish to get rid of one of the products of the structure that is making them poorer rather than the structure itself. The other option is to fight the structure of Neoliberalism, in other words anti-capitalism, socialism, and communism, but this requires both a rejection of white supremacy, and a rejection of Neoliberalism which comes about through true class consciousness and internationalist working class solidarity, especially with the oppressed global south, especially including the "illegal immigrants".

    • @rjtheripper931
      @rjtheripper931 Месяц назад

      @_cat_0w0 well until government can write a tax code that doesn't go after people who are trying to get out of poverty instead of keeping them there then it's time for a tax cut.

    • @_cat_0w0
      @_cat_0w0 Месяц назад

      @@rjtheripper931 time for a tax cut for who?

  • @teedoification
    @teedoification Месяц назад

    Hi Wisecrack! British fan, loved the vid as always. Just wanted to comment that it is the Liberal Democrats, not just Democrats. This is because in the 80s the dying Liberal and Socials Democratic parties (latter of which had splintered from Labour in the early 80s), merged to survive, and to an extent it's worked.
    Lib Dems are a bit of a weird party, as despite being small compared to Conservatives and Labour, they do have wings, typically a typical social democrat wing, and then an 'orange book' traditional liberal wing, most famously represented by UK's former deputy prime minister and current Facebook big wig Nick Clegg.
    Would love to see a Wisecrack take on British political parties - did you know in the 1910£ the Conservatives absorbed several Liberal MPs (at the time the ruling party) into their party as they didn't want Irish independence from the empire? Hence why nowadays they're called the Conservative and Unionist party! Additionally, Labour may be seen as the centre left party, but their routes in the union movement means they're somewhat socially conservative, hence the social democracy splinter in the 80s!

  • @NoNotThatPaul
    @NoNotThatPaul Месяц назад +6

    Nice heart string pull outro! ❤

  • @Alex.Toledo
    @Alex.Toledo Месяц назад

    Always love your videos. Thanks WiseTeam!

  • @gutfriedvonguttenberg5614
    @gutfriedvonguttenberg5614 Месяц назад +3

    to lean into rightwing stuff to get some votes always backfires
    Always

  • @nokotshehla2616
    @nokotshehla2616 Месяц назад

    Nice that you have amapiano as background music ❤

  • @GoDrex
    @GoDrex Месяц назад +3

    this channel is helping to make the world a worse place. good job.

  • @melissamg7485
    @melissamg7485 Месяц назад

    @wisecrack correction: Sherriff Salazar is not a border official. He is the sheriff of Bexar county (San Antonio) that deals with a lot of immigrant smuggling cases that make it to our area which is a hot spot for human trafficking.

  • @macondiano503
    @macondiano503 Месяц назад +4

    While both parties may be flawed, there is definitely a clear difference between Trump and Kamala, in that Trump is clearly looking to seek a dictatorship and Kamala is willing to actually listen and compromise and is more responsive to protest. I don't think either canidate needs to be perfect (not sure that's realistic) but they do need to be willing to cooperate with the needs of the people and be willing to leave office when the time comes. I think it's a very dangerous thing when we overlook that detail.

    • @waleuska
      @waleuska Месяц назад +2

      harris isn't willing to compromise with us. She does with the right but not with anyone on the left.

  • @B_Estes_Undegöetz
    @B_Estes_Undegöetz Месяц назад +2

    18:45 Thats a terrible definition of fascism. “Authoritarian” leaves out the fact that fascism is ultra right wing reactionary anti-democratic anti-egalitarian conservative politics, anti-science, anti-reason, anti-enlightenment, and even anti-modern. In practice it was defined also as “anti-communist” and as fascist regimes developed they ALL developed from crumbling failed states with a capitalist democracies or constitutional monarchy or constitutional republic. But they were ALL capitalist and ALL vigorously and unequivocally anti-socialist and anti-communist. While claiming to be pro-worker and anti-rich internationalist corporate elite in order to come to power, once in power they ALL crushed labor unions and forgot all their rhetoric about rich elites and immediately just wrapped capitalist corporations in a swastika or whatever their national fascist symbology was and went back to business as usual for the super rich. As long as the companies supported the regime they’d be able to keep their private profit accumulation within the nation virtually undisturbed. Little was nationalized except those who spoken out against the fascists or were owners “of the wrong race”.
    You’re soft pedaling the capitalist foundation of all fascist states is very disturbing. Say what you want about communist states they are not fascist in any way and it was Soviet Russia who did more to defeat the Nazis, and took more punishment from them, than any other nation, due to the profoundly anti-communist nature of fascism. Fascism is like the vicious trained and overbred attack dog owned by the capitalists. Let it off the chain when you want to destroy the working class and any socialist tendencies cropping up around you.
    The reason “liberals” and capitalists claim that “fascism is so notoriously hard to define” is because they try to define it by cultural or immaterial factors, and they are always trying to avoid the embarrassing fact that capitalism is the cause of fascism and liberals and capitalist democracy lovers will twist themselves in knots to avoid saying that democracy with a radical individualist capitalism contained within it will almost inevitably result in fascism).
    Vastly better, definitions with material causes with the power to predict where fascism will arise again can be found in the work of Trotsky (“Fascism: What It Is, and How to Fight It” and “What is Fascism?”), and R.P. Dutt. Even some of the past and today’s traditional centrist left-liberal writers have done a better job. Robert Paxton (The Anatomy of Fascism). Or Jason Stanley, or Timothy Snyder.
    By leaving out the ECONOMIC component to fascism, like most liberals tend to want to do, you miss the powerful anti-socialist anti-working class (while claiming to love “workers” … only the right ones … and only if they knew their place and never asked for more than the boss offered … fascism was violent toward breaking up ALL organized groups of workers or tradesman or craftsmen. Fascism controls all permitted organization; and it’s rigidly hierarchical … based on race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, etc. with hierarchy enforced by typical capitalist mechanisms of oppression but also by open violence against anyone who seeks to question the hierarchy.
    This 18:48 is a typically poor, liberal capitalist definition of fascism that twists itself in knots to avoid implicating the capitalist system we so love when contained within a democratic popular culture that will encourage fascism to grow to maturity and then kill the democracy and liberal freedom that gave birth to it.

  • @NickCombs
    @NickCombs Месяц назад +4

    The US agriculture workforce is the way it is because 44% are undocumented. That's what we were trying to fix with the border bill. It was going to add 4,300 aylsum officers and 100 judges along with services and work visa reforms for newcomers in border cities.

  • @taipolar333
    @taipolar333 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you John