Definitely have her on again, she is awesome !! What a high level of determination, she just doesn't cheat on anything.....incredible strength of mind.
@@analogcrunch4716 Cheating how? Cheating because you wish you looked that tuff? Yup. Muscle growth and the pain required to build muscle is exactly the same with PED users as naturals.
Jen's back and delts are top notch! She killed that workout even on the not so strict reps, which she still did better than most would, fought through the pain great job. Def need her back
I did a session similar to this a few weeks ago with zero weights only arms, but with super high reps. My delts have never been as sore in all my days of training. Over the last 18 x months higher reps and less weight has been a priority with shoulders, resulting in less tricep interruption and dominance
You guys did a similar video where you did these super rom side laterals (with upright row?) and then just arms. For the last 6-8 weeks, I’ve done these to failure and my delts are sore for days every damn week! Never got stimulus like that before. Thank you, Dr. Mike!
Bring Jen on again! She’s inspirational to watch, easy on the eye and (maybe it’s because she’s pre competition and shredded) you can see the muscles working in each exercise Made me a subscriber
@@mediocrejoker9447 the same reason dudes wreck themselves with androgens... They want more than natural for pro body building. Using steroids is no less healthy for women than it is for men. All of them make that sacrifice for their competition. Its just their professional choice. More men die from steroid abuse related complications than women after all. Both men & women mess up their reproduction systems with it but she already has kids so who cares?
Perfect techniques with a proper tool selection create great SFR, and only consistent practice with time creates perfect techniques. A Huge thank to Dr.Mike from Taiwan.
Yeah I know this video is old but it just came up for me and all I've got to say is that whenever you train with Jen I immediately go to my weight room and do what you just did with her. She's incredible and the training is incredible. It's great to see the pumps happen right in the video and to know exactly the rationale behind what you're doing and how I can immediately implement it into my current routine.
@@whitemakesright2177oh absolutely, but I still get a sick pump and I'll never take anything. Still inspires me to get it and go harder. Sometimes I don't think I give it my all since I use a home gym.
I have been doing myo reps on leg extensions twice a week on my quad dominant days. I always do them as a last exercise and cannot walk after. I don't use heavy weight just enough to do 20 reps, then rest 5-10 seconds between 5-6 5 rep sets. If I cannot do the 5 reps - I stop the set. I believe this build my quad sweep
Hello! Would you please what is the differences between myo rep and myo rep match? I m new to this intensify technique but I want to learn more! Thank you!
Jen is an absolute machine!!! This has totally changed my approach to training. Always really pressed for time and feel like I have to rush through a workout. I know I cut corners and my form probably suffers.
Holy shit! I'm a 60 year old personal trainer here in the UK. I just tried a shoulder workout based off this video with MYOREPS! WTF 2 HOURS later and my delts are still wasted!!! Brilliant. Thanks Dr Mike :-)
realistically their not going to lead to a high level of fatigue so you could scale it down a little and do it weekly ,especially if your short on time .Ii not the last week or 2 of a training block.
@@Dontstressbenchpress Well yeah but a lot of coaches will have you do your laterals to failure no matter which week it is in the mesocycle. Your side delts will almost always recover pretty quickly. The same applies with this method I think. Maybe I'm not considering whole body fatigue or something. Let me know.
You have to analyze it on an individual basis. But generally I find the SFRs of myorep sets to often be very good. After all, if they were bad, we'd be unlikely to do them! - Dr. Mike
Did this yesterday, but subbed delt fly machine with bent over delt flys with dumbbells for the first exercise. Really focused on form as they did in the video - no momentum, hold at the top, slow descent...5 lb dumbells was all I needed! May try 7.5lbs next time. Thanks Dr. Mike!!!
The girl in the background is saying to herself must workout hard the camera is on me too must look good 😅😅😅 lovely workout technique no bullshit straight delts pain very good video ..well done guys…
Really like this, 44 years old and can only train 3 days and sometimes 2 so always doing full body but was finding with my predominantly compound program, when I added a small amount of isolation to my work my workouts in straight set fashion, with a bit of gentle cardio to warm up then ab, oblique and serratus work to finish my workouts were sometimes pushing 3 hours (as a busy dad of 2 not got that long)! So swapped all my isolation work for drop sets, am going to give this a go instead as will be even more time efficient.
I brought this ideology into my workout and it has made a hell of a difference! I hit a plateau and started incorporating myoreps and it helped me get through. My body started getting used to them so now I'm doing Seth reps (do the highest weight you can for at least 8 reps to failure, then immediately cut the weight in half and do double the reps). Then I'm going to go back to the traditional method I was using. This is another tool in the toolbox. Thank you!
Knowing this and reading the Principles of Hypertrophy, can these almost be considered an offshoot of a giant set? I love me some delt work, and using the templates, can I do myo reps for the deltoid every session to shorten my workouts a bit, putting them at the front of my upper body days or stick them at the end still? I own the 4, 5 and the advanced shoulder templates, but I've been trying to really get my workout in a certain time frame and myo reps now that I understand them better would assist in getting my training down to around an hour hour 15 minute mark instead of the 90 minute plus mark. Thanks for all opinions and the work you folks put in!
Yep that's totally fine as long as it doesn't become stale and gives you high SFRs. That's kind of the answer to a lot of "should I train like this" questions! - Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization thank you. I've been testing it a little bit every new meso. Tested it on calf training of all things last week on upper body days and feeling them still be a bit tender lol. All good thanks for the reply. I'll see if my delts hold up the next 2 to 3 weeks!
Great video, love to see Myo Reps, especially with the Lu Raise style dumbbell raises. Any kind of rest pause stuff is always just so quick and intense.
mike giving new myorep ideas. great time saver just dont cheat i never considered using 3-5 reps on subsequent sets. i always use minimum of 6 but this can allow for more stimulus with slight heavier weight AND strict form. edit tried this yesterday with curls and got good disruption. 1 set 20/5/5/4/3/4/4 reps, 10 sec rest
Welp, u've been doing myoreps "wrong" the whole time then! 😁🙈 The original instructions say to do no more than 3-5 reps on the subsequent sets. Thus it's not a "new idea", not even Mike's idea. It's the way they have always supposed to be done! This "1 set 20/5/5/4/3/4/4 reps" is also wrong! It's double wrong! You are supposed to stop the set when u miss 1 rep, in your case when u went from 5 to 4. Also, u are not supposed to do more than 5 subsequent sets.
@@Moshealthtips 😀 I must have forgotten to reply to this OR I did, but put a link in and it got auto-deleted... Anyhoo, I was referring to the rules set by the creator of myo-reps himself, Borge Fagerli, as mentioned by Mike in the vid. His system, his rules. Ofc u can do what the feck u want 😅 But might be a good idea to check out Borge's article on this on his page (can be found quickly on google).
A few questions - Are these still effective during microcycles of RPE 7-8, or only when you go RPE 9-10? - Can each set be counted towards weekly volume similarly as doing normal sets? - Can you overdo these when you would incorporate these into your final isolation exercise every workout?
I have been using them religiously. I count a whole myorep set as 3 sets (but I take 10-15 secs between these micro sets and do 5-7 reps). But!!! The mental burnout is extreme if that's how you train all the time. You have to get accustomed to it
I was going to comment about this often overlooked huge aspect of these videos. With all due respect to these tremendous athletes and everything that goes into the process, once you add the substances it changes the dynamics of training, recovery, etc greatly and that's a great point for context. Again, this doesn't take away from the knowledge, execution and application process entirely but there's nuances needed to be incorporated.
@@michaelscharff1721 yep. I don't think these people get it or they are just really oblivious. You can be natural and do these exercises for the next 100 years every day and not even get 50% of this look.
Get the hypertrophy book. It literally goes into different strategies to count volume on intensifier sets. But start out by standardizing your rest and RIR targets. Than standardize how many myorep sets you’ll be doing. Monitor your progress by counting the average of your total reps from week to week vs counting your reps set to set.
Check out the section on myoreps all the way close to the bottom end of the document: renaissanceperiodization.com/expert-advice/side-delt-size-training-tips - Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization cool, but that author said your myorep sets can be counted as equivalent in the volume tally to straight sets. Do you agree? You said in the video its an effective alternative to straight sets and that the issue was the trade off between time saving and discomfort (but only for selected appropriate exercises, of course). Which also seems to imply no decrement in results. Ok so I know there are feedback signs to watch for to see how much you can cope with. But, if you like that kind of masochism in the gym (I'm a child rape and torture victim so I fricking LOVE working that shit out unconsciously through to failure and beyond)..... and if it turns out you cope fine, is there any reason why you shouldn't just myorep the muscles and exercises that can go with it, every or most workouts?
Hey Mike, just wanted to ask if during the myo-sets would the fast twitch muscle fibers be exhausted and slow twitch fibers taking over? Wouldn't that be suboptimal for hypertrophy? Thanks!
I'm 62 but when I was a lot younger this was kind of how we finished our squat workouts. A hard set of 10 or 12, then several breaths and a few more reps and repeat up to a total of 20 reps. Really cooked the legs.
Please do! She has one of the most outrageously perfect X frame physiques I have ever scene! With regards discipline, and determination it's no wonder. I'm going to go work delts right now!💪🏾
@@SS3213gsdfyes she is a woman and you don’t get to dictate what constitues a female and what doesn’t. You dont police us women for femininity. She does what she wants and doesn’t conform to your princess ideal
also this is the type of workout where you want to punch your trainer. ( but never would because that desire is pure hard work and your mind wanting to fight it.) so good.
Okay, great video for workout intensity and pushing past failure. here's my one complaint. I always see these "get huge delts" video with folks who already have huge delts to begin with. She's got bigger delts than most dudes. Please make a video series taking someone with mediocre delts and make 'em big with your training principles. A 6-8 week program or something to show the difference. Thanks in advance.
For strength and hypertrophy, how effective is doing say: - myoreps with the protocol you describe in the video VERSUS - picking a weight you can do say 3 or 4 sets of 15 reps with but with longer rests say 1-2 minutes. The effort getting near or to failure in the final set or 2 Referring only to exercises you deem suitable for myoreps (side raises, rear delt work, etc)
he said on the video that this is not better or worse from traditional sets but more effective from time perspective. If we takl about strength i dont believe strength for this kind of exercises i personally dont track progressive overload on isolate exercises. because these muscles dont created to be powerfull they're just tiny muscles. For me what is important on these exercises is that you really fuck those muscles up with any weight or any re range but with good form. And i can see these myoreps obviosly do that. I am gonna try myoreps on my side delts when i get rid of my shoulder injury
So encouraged to see even an advanced (professional? I am a newcomer to the channel and to Jen but she looks professional) bodybuilder use 12.5lb for their lat raises, haha. I agree with other commenters too, she was committed and disciplined through this workout, and her delts are sick!
For small, slow-twitch muscles such as calfs and side delts, do you think that myo reps could be a long-term, continuous option? Also, I really feel my side delts specifically with 1.5 reps on lateral raises and I’m not sure whether to categorize these as metabolite-style training or perform them continuously, week-to-week. Any thoughts would help.
My understanding is that from the Size Principle, that the largest, strongest fibers fatigue first. So myoreps would continue to fatigue the smallest and most fatigue-resistant fibers. This is the opposite of what Chad Waterbury had suggested some years ago to stop the set when the rep speed slows down, thereby fatiguing ONLY the largest and strongest fibers (which fatigue first). Am I understanding this properly? Seems like there might be an undue tradeoff with myoreps in terms of too much CNS fatigue, especially with stimulating those smaller fibers that have lower capacity for growth? Maybe my thinking is outdated....thanks for your thoughts! I love your content, please keep it up!!
Definitely have her on again, she is awesome !! What a high level of determination, she just doesn't cheat on anything.....incredible strength of mind.
Probably why she is in such great shape. Complete control.
Lol she cheats on drugs
@@analogcrunch4716 Cheating how? Cheating because you wish you looked that tuff? Yup. Muscle growth and the pain required to build muscle is exactly the same with PED users as naturals.
@@analogcrunch4716 what a sad person you're
@Franz Fanon Name a PED without looking on the internet. Yeah, that's what I thought.
Yes please have her on again! Love watching someone who just WORKS. She’s awesome.
Jen's back and delts are top notch! She killed that workout even on the not so strict reps, which she still did better than most would, fought through the pain great job. Def need her back
I truly feel sorry for her
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High reps for the myos on everything or just this workout?
They are top notch cause she’s on steroids.
And him too.
never enough Jen. She is so down to earth with her responses to your torture while still showing a good demonstration to follow. Loved it thank you
Jen is clearly a wonderful person on top of being an incredibly hard worker, feature her again and again thanks.
ALWAYS more Jen! She goes so hard, she's a huge inspiration.
Bring Jen on again, love to see athletes who go until failure on these killer workouts you guys do. Inspiring as hell
Don't encourage mental disease
Inspiring? Juiced AF is not inspiring
@@soulmate702000 The pain is real broh, roids notwithstanding.
I did a session similar to this a few weeks ago with zero weights only arms, but with super high reps. My delts have never been as sore in all my days of training. Over the last 18 x months higher reps and less weight has been a priority with shoulders, resulting in less tricep interruption and dominance
You guys did a similar video where you did these super rom side laterals (with upright row?) and then just arms. For the last 6-8 weeks, I’ve done these to failure and my delts are sore for days every damn week! Never got stimulus like that before. Thank you, Dr. Mike!
Very cool! Keep it up! - Dr. Mike
Can u plz link the vid
@@AhmedSalah-rb6ne ruclips.net/video/oeeT4U1H9yA/видео.html
What's the video?
Did you notice growth?
Bring Jen on again! She’s inspirational to watch, easy on the eye and (maybe it’s because she’s pre competition and shredded) you can see the muscles working in each exercise
Made me a subscriber
It's Derek, from more plates more dates...
It’s delts, from more delts more delts
He looks good with the long hair
#MoreDeltsMorePelts
Efficacious comment of supraphysiological performance.
Damn that minoxidil is producing supraphysilogical results!!
If a woman has 3x bigger delts than me, I'm writing down that workout routine to the T and doing it. This was solid
I love the pun there lol
does that means you should probably take stereoids, because she does too. Or that T was the joke allready?
If you believe she got her delts just by working really, really hard, then I’ve got last year snow to sell you.
@@skyliner4610that was the joke haha
I'm certain she has 3x's more T than most men. lol
More of Jenn. She is a straight warrior. 🦍
She looks like Rich Piana if he were a chick
@@Cocktimusprimexx LMFAO
@@Cocktimusprimexx wait. that was a chick? ......why women wreck themselves with androgens i will never understand
@@mediocrejoker9447 the same reason dudes wreck themselves with androgens... They want more than natural for pro body building. Using steroids is no less healthy for women than it is for men. All of them make that sacrifice for their competition. Its just their professional choice.
More men die from steroid abuse related complications than women after all. Both men & women mess up their reproduction systems with it but she already has kids so who cares?
@@mediocrejoker9447 mental issues
Always wanted to incorporate Myo reps... ! Looks brutal, will give it shot.
upvote for Jenna again... super high determination and effort.
Excellent explanation! I think that Jenn and Dr. Israetel work very well together. Please, make more videos together!
Loved this! Fast efficient. Simple. All will.
Bring her back she was a good sport
This coaching is in a whole new level! What a warrior! I probably did a face workout watching her! Thanks for the content !
Jen brings new meaning to OVER the SHOULDER BOULDER HOLDERS
Perfect techniques with a proper tool selection create great SFR, and only consistent practice with time creates perfect techniques. A Huge thank to Dr.Mike from Taiwan.
Heck yeah lets see more of Jen, a beautiful hard worker, truly a work of art
"feel it in the rear delts?" "YES" haha I love it
Yeah I know this video is old but it just came up for me and all I've got to say is that whenever you train with Jen I immediately go to my weight room and do what you just did with her. She's incredible and the training is incredible. It's great to see the pumps happen right in the video and to know exactly the rationale behind what you're doing and how I can immediately implement it into my current routine.
Stay off the gear though!
You realize she's taking a ton of steroids, right?
@@whitemakesright2177oh absolutely, but I still get a sick pump and I'll never take anything. Still inspires me to get it and go harder. Sometimes I don't think I give it my all since I use a home gym.
If it’s only 15 minutes you know it’s pure hell
This was amazing! Jenn is a beast! Much respect! Please bring her back...as well as the rest of her body.
Agreed with other comments. Loved her intensity so get her on ASAP Dr Mike !
Jen is incredible to watch. She gives her all every time.
I have been doing myo reps on leg extensions twice a week on my quad dominant days. I always do them as a last exercise and cannot walk after. I don't use heavy weight just enough to do 20 reps, then rest 5-10 seconds between 5-6 5 rep sets. If I cannot do the 5 reps - I stop the set. I believe this build my quad sweep
Brilliant! I am going to try this, thank you for sharing!
Hello! Would you please what is the differences between myo rep and myo rep match? I m new to this intensify technique but I want to learn more! Thank you!
@@minglai4927 ching chang nigga gang
Jen is an absolute machine!!! This has totally changed my approach to training. Always really pressed for time and feel like I have to rush through a workout. I know I cut corners and my form probably suffers.
Congrats Dr. Mike on the national placement!
Thank you! - Dr. Mike
Bring back Jen! Total savage. Inspiring!
I've been incorporate these myoreps into my shoulder workout and have seen great results. Good stuff!
Jenn is a beast. Much respect for her. Her shoulders are currently a sizable percentage of my lifting motivation.
Workout efficiency just leveled up. Thanks Doc.
Holy shit! I'm a 60 year old personal trainer here in the UK. I just tried a shoulder workout based off this video with MYOREPS! WTF 2 HOURS later and my delts are still wasted!!! Brilliant. Thanks Dr Mike :-)
Would be interesting to hear how this fits in with the stimulus / fatigue ratio paradigm.
More Jenn +1
Likely the last few weeks of a mesocycle or if you’re short on time.
realistically their not going to lead to a high level of fatigue so you could scale it down a little and do it weekly ,especially if your short on time .Ii not the last week or 2 of a training block.
@@kimjongun2536 why wouldn’t they? You are literally doing the hardest reps possible.
@@Dontstressbenchpress Well yeah but a lot of coaches will have you do your laterals to failure no matter which week it is in the mesocycle. Your side delts will almost always recover pretty quickly. The same applies with this method I think. Maybe I'm not considering whole body fatigue or something. Let me know.
You have to analyze it on an individual basis. But generally I find the SFRs of myorep sets to often be very good. After all, if they were bad, we'd be unlikely to do them! - Dr. Mike
Nothing better than someone that’s gets it done. Well done Jen!
Tried this out without cheating… legit struggled to do a six set with only arm weight! Thanks for a really good disruption technique.
please have this woman back on, holy shit. I am so inspired
Jenn gets her shoulders destroyed.
Jenn wants to come back for more.
Be like Jenn.
Yes, please have her on again and again and again. She is Superwoman and I love her. 🙏
Did this yesterday, but subbed delt fly machine with bent over delt flys with dumbbells for the first exercise. Really focused on form as they did in the video - no momentum, hold at the top, slow descent...5 lb dumbells was all I needed! May try 7.5lbs next time. Thanks Dr. Mike!!!
The girl in the background is saying to herself must workout hard the camera is on me too must look good 😅😅😅 lovely workout technique no bullshit straight delts pain very good video ..well done guys…
This was great. Crazy effort she put in. I was grimacing along with her. 😀 Will be trying this today!
She has put in and continues to put in an incredible amount of work. Great back, arms, legs and glutes. A human work of art.
Those glutes are delicious
Really like this, 44 years old and can only train 3 days and sometimes 2 so always doing full body but was finding with my predominantly compound program, when I added a small amount of isolation to my work my workouts in straight set fashion, with a bit of gentle cardio to warm up then ab, oblique and serratus work to finish my workouts were sometimes pushing 3 hours (as a busy dad of 2 not got that long)! So swapped all my isolation work for drop sets, am going to give this a go instead as will be even more time efficient.
Bomboclatt
I brought this ideology into my workout and it has made a hell of a difference! I hit a plateau and started incorporating myoreps and it helped me get through. My body started getting used to them so now I'm doing Seth reps (do the highest weight you can for at least 8 reps to failure, then immediately cut the weight in half and do double the reps). Then I'm going to go back to the traditional method I was using. This is another tool in the toolbox. Thank you!
Really like those super rom lateral delt raises after seeing you feature them previously. They are really effective.
I tried this lateral delt raises, and it felt pretty good for my shoulders. Thanks four your insane quality videos.
Excellent way to build tendon strength as well! That technique helped me recover from a shoulder tear using the chest press machine.
"That was bullshit, but okay" 😂😂 love this guy
Incredible workout! Jen did a phenomenal job ... Congrats!
My shoulders are burning just watching her. Ugh! GREAT EFFORT! Warrior!
That was cool. Ive been doing myo reps but didnt know what that was called until now. This workout looks insane. Ill do my best to recreate. Thanks.
That lady working the seated row in the back is killing it too...great video
Impressive and motivated 👏
bring back Jenn! A true warrior, she is as stimulating as a pre-workout.
Love the training vids Mike. Please keep these coming
i love seeing people in workout pain! it makes me cry from happiness. get it danmit!
Ahahahah... I did myo-reps fo squat with 1.25 of my bw (90 kg)! 9 minutes of pure passion. I will remember it for the rest of my life.
Myoreps on squats sounds like id puke. That's sick. I'd bet you'll never forget that lol.
Myo on squats seems like suicide
@@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL Yes, it is! 🤣
myoreps on SQUATS?? that just sounds dangerous i can't lie to you
That was a great video, great tactics, and love how she pushed beyond failure 🔥🔥🔥
Good stuff, Mike! She's killing it! Need to borrow her delts next season 💪💪🏆
It's heart warming to see someone execute movements with that perfect strictness. I'm a geek in the gym and I just love this❤️👍🏆🏆🏆
Knowing this and reading the Principles of Hypertrophy, can these almost be considered an offshoot of a giant set? I love me some delt work, and using the templates, can I do myo reps for the deltoid every session to shorten my workouts a bit, putting them at the front of my upper body days or stick them at the end still? I own the 4, 5 and the advanced shoulder templates, but I've been trying to really get my workout in a certain time frame and myo reps now that I understand them better would assist in getting my training down to around an hour hour 15 minute mark instead of the 90 minute plus mark. Thanks for all opinions and the work you folks put in!
Yep that's totally fine as long as it doesn't become stale and gives you high SFRs. That's kind of the answer to a lot of "should I train like this" questions! - Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization thank you. I've been testing it a little bit every new meso. Tested it on calf training of all things last week on upper body days and feeling them still be a bit tender lol. All good thanks for the reply. I'll see if my delts hold up the next 2 to 3 weeks!
Yes more Jen please!!! She can give MPMD a run in the Death Star Delt department!!! Bring Jen back!!!
Great video, love to see Myo Reps, especially with the Lu Raise style dumbbell raises. Any kind of rest pause stuff is always just so quick and intense.
Thank You Very Much for all the information.
“Your shoulders look enormous”
*flexes* “My traps are huge too”
lol
Looks crazy tough Mike !
mike giving new myorep ideas. great time saver just dont cheat
i never considered using 3-5 reps on subsequent sets. i always use minimum of 6 but this can allow for more stimulus with slight heavier weight AND strict form. edit tried this yesterday with curls and got good disruption. 1 set 20/5/5/4/3/4/4 reps, 10 sec rest
Welp, u've been doing myoreps "wrong" the whole time then! 😁🙈 The original instructions say to do no more than 3-5 reps on the subsequent sets. Thus it's not a "new idea", not even Mike's idea. It's the way they have always supposed to be done!
This "1 set 20/5/5/4/3/4/4 reps" is also wrong! It's double wrong! You are supposed to stop the set when u miss 1 rep, in your case when u went from 5 to 4. Also, u are not supposed to do more than 5 subsequent sets.
@@MaximusAdonicus there's no wrong way or hard rules. You're just making this up. Myoreps are based on rest pause princniples.
@@Moshealthtips 😀 I must have forgotten to reply to this OR I did, but put a link in and it got auto-deleted... Anyhoo, I was referring to the rules set by the creator of myo-reps himself, Borge Fagerli, as mentioned by Mike in the vid. His system, his rules. Ofc u can do what the feck u want 😅 But might be a good idea to check out Borge's article on this on his page (can be found quickly on google).
Yes, have Jan again! Great attitude, effort and trust in her coach.
Do you implement myoreps every week during your meso or just the final week before deload? Do you do progressive overload on them as well?
i think only last week since they are tough For CNS and u might PO on them,if u already figured out something that I don't know lemme know
This dude Changing my life over here!!
A few questions
- Are these still effective during microcycles of RPE 7-8, or only when you go RPE 9-10?
- Can each set be counted towards weekly volume similarly as doing normal sets?
- Can you overdo these when you would incorporate these into your final isolation exercise every workout?
I have been using them religiously. I count a whole myorep set as 3 sets (but I take 10-15 secs between these micro sets and do 5-7 reps).
But!!! The mental burnout is extreme if that's how you train all the time. You have to get accustomed to it
It's incredible how much a person's physique changes on gear.
I was going to comment about this often overlooked huge aspect of these videos. With all due respect to these tremendous athletes and everything that goes into the process, once you add the substances it changes the dynamics of training, recovery, etc greatly and that's a great point for context. Again, this doesn't take away from the knowledge, execution and application process entirely but there's nuances needed to be incorporated.
@@michaelscharff1721 yeah you just get better results, faster.
@@michaelscharff1721 yep. I don't think these people get it or they are just really oblivious. You can be natural and do these exercises for the next 100 years every day and not even get 50% of this look.
@@JaeTea100 Some try and argue steroids only increase recovery, like the end result is even possible without the gear.
I'm exhausted just watching this. And yes, definitely bring her back!
What the bell is that woman doing on cable rows? Lol
People need to put some respect on Coop's name. He's sneaky jacked, and like a 500lb deadlifter. Guy is in great shape
Mike my issue with myoreps is that I do not know how to count for volume in my total volume. Do you have any suggestions on this?
Get the hypertrophy book. It literally goes into different strategies to count volume on intensifier sets.
But start out by standardizing your rest and RIR targets. Than standardize how many myorep sets you’ll be doing. Monitor your progress by counting the average of your total reps from week to week vs counting your reps set to set.
Check out the section on myoreps all the way close to the bottom end of the document:
renaissanceperiodization.com/expert-advice/side-delt-size-training-tips
- Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization cool, but that author said your myorep sets can be counted as equivalent in the volume tally to straight sets. Do you agree? You said in the video its an effective alternative to straight sets and that the issue was the trade off between time saving and discomfort (but only for selected appropriate exercises, of course). Which also seems to imply no decrement in results. Ok so I know there are feedback signs to watch for to see how much you can cope with. But, if you like that kind of masochism in the gym (I'm a child rape and torture victim so I fricking LOVE working that shit out unconsciously through to failure and beyond)..... and if it turns out you cope fine, is there any reason why you shouldn't just myorep the muscles and exercises that can go with it, every or most workouts?
Definitely need more of hers
The amount of androgen receptors in this video is off the charts.
Super physiological levels
Ouch, super rom lat raises are brutal. Jen was amazing, warrior. Would love to see her again.
Hey Mike, just wanted to ask if during the myo-sets would the fast twitch muscle fibers be exhausted and slow twitch fibers taking over? Wouldn't that be suboptimal for hypertrophy? Thanks!
Other way around.
yep it's the opposite, your slow twitch stuff works from the get go and the longer your set takes the more fast twitch stuff gets involved
I'm 62 but when I was a lot younger this was kind of how we finished our squat workouts. A hard set of 10 or 12, then several breaths and a few more reps and repeat up to a total of 20 reps. Really cooked the legs.
Please do! She has one of the most outrageously perfect X frame physiques I have ever scene! With regards discipline, and determination it's no wonder. I'm going to go work delts right now!💪🏾
I mean... 💉💉
looks like a man lol
@@SS3213gsdfyes she is a woman and you don’t get to dictate what constitues a female and what doesn’t. You dont police us women for femininity. She does what she wants and doesn’t conform to your princess ideal
Her delts even after the first set were popping? Delts to die for. Thanks y'all. You two training together are solid content.
also this is the type of workout where you want to punch your trainer. ( but never would because that desire is pure hard work and your mind wanting to fight it.) so good.
Won’t get it as naturals
Okay, great video for workout intensity and pushing past failure. here's my one complaint. I always see these "get huge delts" video with folks who already have huge delts to begin with. She's got bigger delts than most dudes. Please make a video series taking someone with mediocre delts and make 'em big with your training principles. A 6-8 week program or something to show the difference. Thanks in advance.
6-8 weeks of training is not enough to see clear visual growth. It takes months or years.
They never tell you how many gallons of steroids it takes to get what they have.
I agree with above it takes far longer than 6-8 weeks to see growth anywhere on the body.
@@mikehoyle6092the jealously seeping out of your pores
For strength and hypertrophy, how effective is doing say:
- myoreps with the protocol you describe in the video
VERSUS
- picking a weight you can do say 3 or 4 sets of 15 reps with but with longer rests say 1-2 minutes. The effort getting near or to failure in the final set or 2
Referring only to exercises you deem suitable for myoreps (side raises, rear delt work, etc)
he said on the video that this is not better or worse from traditional sets but more effective from time perspective. If we takl about strength i dont believe strength for this kind of exercises i personally dont track progressive overload on isolate exercises. because these muscles dont created to be powerfull they're just tiny muscles. For me what is important on these exercises is that you really fuck those muscles up with any weight or any re range but with good form. And i can see these myoreps obviosly do that. I am gonna try myoreps on my side delts when i get rid of my shoulder injury
No wonder why Derek's delts have been quiet lately.
So encouraged to see even an advanced (professional? I am a newcomer to the channel and to Jen but she looks professional) bodybuilder use 12.5lb for their lat raises, haha. I agree with other commenters too, she was committed and disciplined through this workout, and her delts are sick!
For small, slow-twitch muscles such as calfs and side delts, do you think that myo reps could be a long-term, continuous option? Also, I really feel my side delts specifically with 1.5 reps on lateral raises and I’m not sure whether to categorize these as metabolite-style training or perform them continuously, week-to-week. Any thoughts would help.
Love Jen, she's a legend really gave it all out there
dam she juiced to the gills
My understanding is that from the Size Principle, that the largest, strongest fibers fatigue first. So myoreps would continue to fatigue the smallest and most fatigue-resistant fibers. This is the opposite of what Chad Waterbury had suggested some years ago to stop the set when the rep speed slows down, thereby fatiguing ONLY the largest and strongest fibers (which fatigue first).
Am I understanding this properly?
Seems like there might be an undue tradeoff with myoreps in terms of too much CNS fatigue, especially with stimulating those smaller fibers that have lower capacity for growth?
Maybe my thinking is outdated....thanks for your thoughts! I love your content, please keep it up!!
Jenn looks great! Hard work. Thanks for the video
I assume the use of PED's is just a given. Was that a Tren cough?
PED is a given, being derermined to work until you collapse is not. Give credit where credit is due.
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Jesus... the work ethic and effort of Jen and holy shit those shoulders!
She's got the delts of my dreams....
Dr. Mike is a great trainer/hype man!!
Goddamn those are some giant delts!
With or without the steroids?
Thx Dr. Mike, recently incorporated these into my workouts and loving the burn and results!