Atlerier is a saga i got into because of you and i don't regret it. I was on the fence for long years thinking "They seems to be...to happy for a working adult like me". I watched the channel for the trails and jrpg news and i finally got the push to start from your videos and reviews and general the happy energy you transmited talking about them and man did i do good trying them, a relaxing good jrpg was what i needed and didn't know and loving how i always loved crafting in games it was just right for me. So here are my heartfull thanks man. Keep up the good work.
That's the issue really, these games are rarely given a chance because people see them as 'cute girls doing cute things', and that's it. I'll keep sharing them though to hopefully bring more players in.
Ehh, i disagree, at the end of the day these games are still first and foremost RPGs, and RPGs need a bit of complexity and depth within its progression to be worth while imo, which is why I steer clear from the older titles, not only do most of the older titles run at 30fps, but theres also time limits, which imo has no place in any RPG, the point of a RPG is to level and grow a character or group of characters to accomplish some sort of goal, a RPG lives and dies by its combat system, progression systems and exploration, show me a RPG that lacks depth and ill show you a bad RPG, yes the narrative elements are important, but these are video games not movies, the gameplay should Always be the main focus
Unfortunately the PS4 version of Sophie 2 only runs at 30fps, even when playing on a PS5, i just couldn't get into it at such a low framerate, after playing Ryza 2 at 60fps it was such a huge downgrade, its especially weird considering how many PS4 titles run at 60fps when playing on PS5
I picked up Trails in the Sky and Atelier Sofia 1 and 2 based on watching your videos. Work and school have me so busy, but I'm looking forward to jumping into these worlds as soon as things slow down
you're in for SUCH a treat. just take your time with them. play them like you would have played them when you were 12 years old and they will be magical. soak it all in and let them wash over you
Been considering a Atelier game again for some time. Saw Atelier Sophie 2 at my local CeX store a few days prior to this video. Watched the video. Loved it. Saw the No.1 spot. Bought the game the following day. Thoroughly enjoying it. Thank you, sir 🫡
I somewhat affectionately called the 2 Shallies "Dumb and Dumber" during my playthrough. I had played the 2 Mana games, the 3 Arland games, and the 3 Dusk games as they were coming out but I bounced off Sophie after about 20 hours, mostly just because the plot didn't hook me, and the block puzzle style alchemy I wasn't a fan of. Even though the game had no time limit it still had character events that only happened on certain days of the week, and they decided to get rid of the Exclamation Mark on the map showing you when a character event was available for some reason, and if I remember right I think they also hide the friendship score for your party members. I haven't really gotten back into the series since that, I played some Ryza but never finished it, though your video shows me there are some games I should try out.
Sophie 2 is probably my favorite too. After playing that one it made me wish that Gust would somehow make an Atelier Plachta. It could take place before Sophie 1, and show all the events that lead up to Plachta turning into the book.
I think Mysterious is most likely done now, as Sophie 2 showed another version of Plachta. If the new game is anything, I imagine it'll be either a brand new sub-series or a 4th Dusk game.
Sophie is the only game I've played thus far, maybe 5 years ago. I've been kinda wanting to give its sequel ago, but if you hold it that high regard that definitely makes me more intrigued.
Lovely thumbnail lol Atelier Ryza was what got me into the Atelier series, so it's definitely up there as one of the best or one of my favorite of the series (especially when I have been collecting every single figurines she has and some other merch). Surprisingly, I really enjoyed Lydie & Suelle. Firis was a really cute character and I do love the soundtrack, but I agree the gameplay was much more tedious and grindy. With the new Atelier Yumia coming out, it will sure be up there from what I've seen in the Direct. I hope someday they will actually consider remaking the older games like they did with Marie, if they do I think they should continue the Salburg games with Elie next followed by Lilie afterwards.
@@isaacconner8622 Ar Tonelico 1 and 2 is amazing... I actually ended up getting every single Ar Tonelico sound track and drama cd I could find, fanmade and otherwise lol.... only cost me a couple thousand dollars ;S but don't tell anyone.
started sophie 2 loved it now steamsale and got the whole series and restart with game 1. fell in love with the atelier games (and also trails). also a really great list you did ! it is cool how the tier lists are always different ! i do hope ryza has not cursed us forever since the next one looks similiar and more action focused. hopefully will be relaxing and turn based too. butt sells i guess -.- i like big cloaks though. XD
I just unlocked catalysts in Sophie 2, I was already spending lots of time crafting but that board you shown was crazy. I really enjoyed Ryza's system as well but my favourite protag so far is Rorona, She's adorably naive and dorky. The music feels more unique and memorable compared to the other games in the series (The map theme and near forest are gems) it's very simple compared to the newer games but it's got so much charm.
This is a series that I've always put off because I just didn't think it was for me but I read a lot of similar reservations then they end up loving the games. I'll try out the first Ryza and see how I get on...
I think it is a series most people can get into. It is very inoffensive in the sense there isn't going to be much that will make you hate it. At worst, it will be just indifference and you play one game and that's it. At best, you end up loving it and buying all the games lol
I really enjoyed this video! I’ve watch it back countless times! And I ordered Atelier Sophie 2 for my Nintendo Switch, this will be my first Atelier game and I can hardly wait! I played world of Warcraft for about 5 years. I leveled a Druid with Alchemy and Herbalism as my profession. I also did lots of fishing for materials to make potions and elixirs! Atelier Sophie 2 from what I have read has it all!! I’m so excited. Thanks for sharing this amazing video. I hope to see more content for future Atelier games coming in 2025 and beyond!
For atelier games, i actually have a hard time finishing the later games because there are no time limits. On the other hand, the earlier games with time limits are easier for me to play because there's a goal and a limit, which meant i know im actually progressing through the game and lets me focus on that. And also sometimes, the lack of a time limit kinda breaks a bit of the immersion, storywise. Like in Ryza 1, when Bos went missing and you are supposed to find and rescue him... there's really no sense of urgency because you can spend 10 years preparing and he'll still be fine. lol. granted Atelier games aren't really that focused on the story department, but still. maybe simply because im more used to the likes of Rorona or Ayesha were there are things at stake related to the time limit. the sense of urgency allows me to actually want to finish the game.
I completely disagree, I hate any games with time limits or calendar systems, I prefer more open ended games, these are video games not movies, more freedom to do what I want the better, the newer Atelier games are so easy but so much better at the same time
I'm just coming to the end of my Trails journey, on Daybreak now, and have been thinking about what will come next prior to Daybreak 2. I've got Ryza and Sophie 2 and have always wanted to dive in, but I think this video might have convinced me now is the time!
gosh i love the atelier series. your local shrink will give you pills that mess you up even more and have ton's of side effects. i, on the other hand, will prescribe you to play as many atelier games as possible. they are natural anti depressants without side effects. you're welcome
Nut-man: You wouldn't believe how much fun I had just watching this video about your experience with the 14 modern Atelier-titles. I only played »Nelke & the Legendary Alchemists«, not knowing this is not your typical Atelier game, and »Atelier Ryza« which I enjoyed soooo much (really, so much fun)! Your video made me remember: »Yes ... I need to play more games out of this series«. Currently in the endgame of »Trails of Cold Steel 2« (which is also a joy to play) so I'm not sure if I should continue with »Legend of Heroes« (ToCS3) or with an other »Atelier« game (most probably »Ryza 2«). All the best and thank you so much for this video. 😊❤ Peace! 🖖
Absolutely agree with where you placed Ryza 2. It's certainly not perfect, however, I don't quite understand why so many players see Ryza 2 as the weakest in the trilogy. It's more polished in every aspects compare to Ryza 1 (i.e. combat system and synthesis system), and it wasn't rushed out like Ryza 3 (i.e. the underwater section was flat and monotonic; the arrangement of songs and pieces reminds me of Czerny's Études; I tried to take the story and plot seriously, but I just couldn't be more careless about the new characters).
Rorona was my first, so best one for me. Just randomly bought it because I had a craving for a jrpg one day and was super angry when I noticed there is barely any fighting. That quickly changed, though. I couldn't believe how "weird and different" this gameplay was.
I already have Atelier Sophie, and I think at the start I'll stick with that one and Sophie 2. Then probably move on to Ryza 1 and 2, and see if I want to play 3. Then look into the Dusk trilogy. After that I might, if I'm really interested, look into the rest of Mysterious and the Arland games.
Never played an Atelier game but the passion of the fan base is there because the games must be fun. The new entry that was just announced looks pretty outstanding at first glance.
Yep this was a delightful surprise to find❤ Delightful because your top 5 atelier games are this pirates as well and for very similar reasons mind you. Ryza was actually my very first Atelier game and what caused me to dive deeper into the series as a hole. Loved Sophie 2❤❤ so much it was a pleasure playing through that game honestly Thank you so much for the video
Im on my third try of Totori and the second time i even followed a guide! (It was lacking and caused problems but taught me a lot) I got so frustrated i put it down for a bit but, when people ask me about it I say it's great and I love it. It's got a lot going for it, I only wish it had some more direction
@MrGnuh yeah. I think I can get a good ending now after playing through it a few times but...... it definitely feels like if you wanted to play the game blind, you have to play the game through quite a bit maybe even multiple times, just to beat the game on a later playthrough
I love them all. I played a lot of them on the PS Vita though and haven’t played any of the rereleases and for that reason Firis is by far MY lowest point and it’s all down to performance issues. If there is a decent sale I will try them again on Switch or PC. Overall despite not being my first Atelier game, Ayesha is hands down my favourite. I can’t really explains why, It was just the right game at the right time. I loved every moment in that world.
Way back when Sophie 2 was first announced, I had zero expectation for it, but after playing it for real, it's definitely one of the best modern atelier game out there heck even far surpassing both Ryza 1 and 2, which also the series where I actually starting my Atelier journey.
Atelier Sophie 2 is definitely my favourite Atelier game as well, right after Ryza 2. Though I'd say that I enjoyed Lulua more than Lydie & Suelle probably due to the alchemy system and that I was under constant pressure of getting the true ending for Lydie & Suelle. I'm kind of interested in Escha and Logy before, seeing that you rated it higher than most Atelier games is pretty reassuring. Unfortunately I couldn't get individual copy of the game for the Switch. All Dusk games are bundled in a trilogy. I might still get the digital version though.
If you're looking for something more difficult, I recommend 'noora and time studio'. A work created by Mr. Yoshiike, the creator of the Atelier series, with ATLAS.
I am not color blind myself, but because of color blind content creators, paying attention to accessibility has become a habit of mine. It is a very valid point of criticism, especially with how easy it is to solve.
Ryza 1 is the only Atelier game I've played so far. It was a nice change of pace coming out of Cold Steel 4. It felt a bit lackluster playing it after the Trails games, but relying on the crafting system to be able to defeat bosses was a fun different approach to a fantasy story. I think I'll at least play Ryza 2 and 3 some day, because I had fun spending time with those characters. Even grinding for materials wasn't so bad compared to some other games. And even with the big threat looming in the background the game felt very cozy overall.
The one for the GBA, Marie Elie & Anis, was translated this year, making it a modern Atelier game. Since it is the best Atelier game, that now makes it the best modern Atelier game as well!
Bought Ryza 1 and 2 on sale when the series caught my attention and I intend to get to them eventually, but now it looks like I'll have to give a look to the two Sophie games as well.
I was looking into the Atelier games and the first one I bought was Atelier Sophie 2. That was like 3 years ago and never played it 😅but this gives me more reason to play it
I will need to come back here later after I finish Mysterious and Dusk trilogies, maybe some Arland - only some (first and last probably) because I dislike harsh time limits (done with Ryza and Marie now), to comment my own list ;) At this point I can say that I agree with Ryza 2 placement, I also consider it the best game in trilogy, even if it's weakest story in my opinion - but characters, their interactions and personal growth, general feel of the game and gameplay, all carry it so much. Thanks for opinion!
Atelier Ryza 1 was my first Atelier game. While it wasn't my cup of tea thanks to the characters toward most of the game, the ending portion gotten me somewhat hooked so I bought ryza 2. That, however, had gotten me to want to play more Atelier games so I bought the mysterious trilogy when I had the money to. (still have yet to play them though) Now I'm just waiting to get Ryza 3 and Yumia (which seems like more my speed) and maybe sophie 2 after I finish 1
God damn my guy out here with the W's. I love Escha and Logy and it deserves 2nd while Sophie 2 is the king. Anf whats funny is I was scared to get into Sophie 2 cuz I didnt know if Id like it SO glad I got it on sale for 30 USD
I totally agree with your list and every comment you said on each. Sophie 2 to me is the perfect atelier, i also love turn based. So ryza games don't hold a candle to sophie 2 for me and are a bit below. I'd also put escha/logy 2nd since before sophie 2, it was my fav atelier and first ever platinium 🥰
I think your timing was brilliant on this video. Lol the new one just got announced for literally everything so I found it cause I've never played the series
I still have to play the dusk trilogy and Sophie 2, but your ranking is almost the same as mine ! Except I place Totori DX on the lower end. It is a game that moved me, I cried after ending it, but it also frustrated me a lot !
Well, I'm glad some people enjoyed the grid based alchemy systems. I hated them. I feel vindicated that someone else thought that Ryza 3 made a mistake using new people like they did Im also happyto see totori get a high rank. Ithink lulua is better than what it was placed at. For me it had the best alchemy system of any atelier game. I also enjoyed the mini task system of the mysterious book. I might eventually give sophie 2 a play later, but from what I hear, making a "perfect" piece of gear in that game is very difficult, and that's bad news for my ocd
oh my sweet jeebus 🎉 yes atelier sophie 2. i always wondered is it just me or sophie tops my gameplay experience than ryza series. turns out im not alone 😂 💯 agree!
Escha and Logy was my first pure Atelier game and still my number one. One of the few times I did a double playthrough when a game gives you a choice between protags. Sophie 2 is my very and I mean very close second. Ryza 2 comes up in my third. Personally I couldn't stand Lydie and Suelle. It got to the point that it was hard to continue playing the game and I did end up stopping at the mansion area painting. For me personally they are the worst protags in the series. Mana Khemia is still my favorite of the franchise and I still hope for a Mana Khemia 3.
I haven’t finished your video yet. I’m still on number 12. I’ll edit when I’m done but already.. Firis and Lulua are in my top 3! As a protagonist Firis and Totori are my favorites. I feel they had the best progression. I loved the party quests in Firis and the outcomes of each one. The whole mystery of each character trying to find their place in this world. But I agree. The alchemy is kinda ass and doesn’t really feel worth it until NG+ I agree with shalle being in the bottom… I think it could have been a great game if it was just the brown hair shalle. I didn’t like the green hair.. my least favorite of all the girls. Sorry for the long comments. Atelier is my favorite series. It’s nice having a series that seems more geared to us girls lol Overall I like your ranking. They can’t all be number one.
Atelier ryza 3 is my favorite game from the franchise, altough I only played ryza and ryza 3 XD. I had my eye on Sophie 2 for a long time, with your video maybe is a good time to take more serious the idea of playing that game. Also I have my eye on Atelier Marie Remake, but I don't know If I should give it a try. If you have to put Marie Remake in the list, where do you put it?
I always want to love this series because the story and characters look so fun, but the modern take just never holds my attention. The Iris series is where I started, and the drastic shift in gameplay just never took for me. Regardless glad to see you and so many other enjoying the series!
Iris and Mana Khemia were very much the outliers, they were an attempt by Gust to 'streamline' Atelier, but they nearly ended the series all together. The focus on crafting was always what Atelier was about.
@@TheKisekiNut That is extremely fair, and while I miss that more streamline approach I have plenty of other games to fill that itch and am glad they made a call to pivot to what the majority of the fans enjoy and are still around. I have come to terms that these games will never be my speed gameplay wise, but I enjoy watching summary and explanation videos. All the second hand joy without what I personally find tedious.
I played just all the Dusk and mysterious games, and my favourites in order from best to worst are Escha and Logy, Lydie and Suelle, Firis, Sophie, Shallie and then Ayesha. I liked Logy the best which is why E&L is my fave, and it had the best alchemy system. From mysterious i found firis really cute and actually quite liked Firis, the open world was pretty fun. Although I felt that L&S was a major upgrade, enjoyed all the recurring characters, alchemy, solid story and concluding Mysterious. I hated Shallie, it was sooo boring with no challenge and boring characters, was half asleep with that, the life task system was pointless. Ayesha was ok but hated the stricter time limit and it felt dated, the DX bosses were insanely hard. Sophie was ok, again super easy. I still have Sophie 2 to play so am hoping that will be better than the first game
nice list also totally agree with escha and sophie 2 being top picks (my only gripe with sophie 2 is it not really having a super boss/postgame dungeon where we could go lose on perfect otherwise) im disagreeing with you on best ost though to be that still belongs to ayesha
That's fair, opinions are always subjective. Meruru for me had a huge amount of songs that appealed to my tastes, so it was my favourite by a distance.
Sophie 2 is great up until that aura guard thing almost every enemies were suddenly capable of doing mid-way through the game. Then I lower the difficulty to easy but it made the entire battle experience really annoying.
I played the older version of Sophie which is removed from the Steam, they changed it to the better version. It was good, minus graphics and weird sound staging. So good that i never actually buy the much 'better' graphics Ateliers. And oh, the price was the best. No other Atelier has the perfect pricing other than that.
Though some of the games I prefer are on the lower end here I can understand why they're their. I can wholeheartedly agree that Sophie 2 is one of the best in the franchise so far. And yeah Ryza 3 was incredibly bloated and I'd say the story could've ended close to 15-20hrs sooner and that it's the weakest game in the Secret Trilogy.
It’s insane how different our taste is 😅 firis, shallie, lulua are my top 3 with lydie easily being my least favorite one. Anyways, long live this wonderful series!
Ryza 1 was alright i loved ryza 2 but ryza 3 was too overwhelming for me...with the ryza games i only ever played as ryza never really switched between characters ... I am currently playing sophie 2 id much prefer the turn based combat at least the party members can be used
I can’t understand people who say this. The games have been including characters and cgs explicitly for fan service purposes forever. The whole high impact sexual violence meme was from atelier
It's because for Ryza, her character design is very obviously created with sex appeal in mind, unlike the others which are just cute girls. I wouldn't say any of the others have that design philosophy (in their own game at least. Mommy Rorona hahh hahh) @@csrjjsmp
I was thinking about playing Atelier Marie Remake as my introduction to this series. Where might you rank it on this list, if it were a modern game (Unless I'm a goof and somehow missed it?)
I only played Ryza 2 and 3 and i definitely agree Ryza 2 is the best with story, combat and characters and of course Alchemy mechanics the only flaw was the dumb girl who like Tao who returns on sequel for no reason, Ryza 3 on other hand is hardly better the three new characters weren’t that needed besides the tanned girl, they wasted Serri and cliff being one time characters, the chests and shops are worthless, the story is bland and the world is hollow big and finally the improved alchemy is not necessarily better it’s just easier but doesn’t allow stacking stats which honestly is why I loved messing around with Ryza 2 recipes.
Im just nervous about Atelier Yumia, the gameplay shown was only 30fps, it would be such a shame with so much lost potential to release a game with such a low framerate
never played any aside the 3 original atelier iris Biggest problem for me is how those games make my cpu skyrocket in temperature instead using the GPU for some reason. 10 minutes on firis, I think it was firis, and CPU was almost 92ºC
Yeah Gust PC ports aren't the best. I didn't have any problems with Arland or Dusk trilogy, but Mysterious is when I really began to notice how much of GPU it would eat it even though I was barely doing anything. Somehow just going from fullscreen to windowed made GPU consumption go from 90% to 60% so I have no clue.
Agreed there, the PC ports aren't that good most of the time but even my own rig got by with no problems, so not sure why your hardware was having issues.
@@Callum5211 There's a project called Atelier Sync Fix which can massively improve performance for the Mysterious series and games released after it. I applied it to Atelier Sophie and my framerate almost doubled.
Escha and Logy is my favorite one for all the same reasons but I haven't played Sophie 2 so we'll see. Also how dare you insult custard donuts they're my favorite.
Wish I bought Sophie 2 and Ryza games before KT hiked regional prices to unfair levels. These games are nearly unaffordable unless they go on deep sale, very scummy behavior.
I love Lulua. But yeah no the endgame boss is a huge spike and where as Ryza the only thing needed explaining for example being seeds Lulua i needed a guide to understand anything
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Atlerier is a saga i got into because of you and i don't regret it. I was on the fence for long years thinking "They seems to be...to happy for a working adult like me". I watched the channel for the trails and jrpg news and i finally got the push to start from your videos and reviews and general the happy energy you transmited talking about them and man did i do good trying them, a relaxing good jrpg was what i needed and didn't know and loving how i always loved crafting in games it was just right for me. So here are my heartfull thanks man. Keep up the good work.
That's the issue really, these games are rarely given a chance because people see them as 'cute girls doing cute things', and that's it. I'll keep sharing them though to hopefully bring more players in.
I can't help but to love the simplicity of Sophie and Ayesha.
Nothing wrong with simplicity if it's done right.
Ehh, i disagree, at the end of the day these games are still first and foremost RPGs, and RPGs need a bit of complexity and depth within its progression to be worth while imo, which is why I steer clear from the older titles, not only do most of the older titles run at 30fps, but theres also time limits, which imo has no place in any RPG, the point of a RPG is to level and grow a character or group of characters to accomplish some sort of goal, a RPG lives and dies by its combat system, progression systems and exploration, show me a RPG that lacks depth and ill show you a bad RPG, yes the narrative elements are important, but these are video games not movies, the gameplay should Always be the main focus
Atelier Sophie 2 is also one of my favorite games of all time! The characters, and Sophie specifically have my heart!! 😭
It's my first Atelier game and so it's hard to pick a second
Unfortunately the PS4 version of Sophie 2 only runs at 30fps, even when playing on a PS5, i just couldn't get into it at such a low framerate, after playing Ryza 2 at 60fps it was such a huge downgrade, its especially weird considering how many PS4 titles run at 60fps when playing on PS5
I play RPGs more for the combat, progression and exploration, my list is 100% gameplay focused
No Thigh, No buy 😂
Mana Khemia was always my favorite alchemy-type game, but cannot forget Atelier Iris series. loved these ps2 games
me too👍
Ryza is the best, i did't play the 3th, because is still expensive here in Brazil, but i loved the 2rd.
I picked up Trails in the Sky and Atelier Sofia 1 and 2 based on watching your videos. Work and school have me so busy, but I'm looking forward to jumping into these worlds as soon as things slow down
you're in for SUCH a treat. just take your time with them. play them like you would have played them when you were 12 years old and they will be magical. soak it all in and let them wash over you
Been considering a Atelier game again for some time. Saw Atelier Sophie 2 at my local CeX store a few days prior to this video. Watched the video. Loved it. Saw the No.1 spot. Bought the game the following day. Thoroughly enjoying it.
Thank you, sir 🫡
I love all Atelier Games. Some more and some less. But Ryza and Sofia are my Favorits. Hope for a new Game soon❤
I somewhat affectionately called the 2 Shallies "Dumb and Dumber" during my playthrough.
I had played the 2 Mana games, the 3 Arland games, and the 3 Dusk games as they were coming out but I bounced off Sophie after about 20 hours, mostly just because the plot didn't hook me, and the block puzzle style alchemy I wasn't a fan of. Even though the game had no time limit it still had character events that only happened on certain days of the week, and they decided to get rid of the Exclamation Mark on the map showing you when a character event was available for some reason, and if I remember right I think they also hide the friendship score for your party members. I haven't really gotten back into the series since that, I played some Ryza but never finished it, though your video shows me there are some games I should try out.
Sophie 2 is probably my favorite too. After playing that one it made me wish that Gust would somehow make an Atelier Plachta. It could take place before Sophie 1, and show all the events that lead up to Plachta turning into the book.
I think Mysterious is most likely done now, as Sophie 2 showed another version of Plachta.
If the new game is anything, I imagine it'll be either a brand new sub-series or a 4th Dusk game.
Sophie is the only game I've played thus far, maybe 5 years ago. I've been kinda wanting to give its sequel ago, but if you hold it that high regard that definitely makes me more intrigued.
Lovely thumbnail lol
Atelier Ryza was what got me into the Atelier series, so it's definitely up there as one of the best or one of my favorite of the series (especially when I have been collecting every single figurines she has and some other merch). Surprisingly, I really enjoyed Lydie & Suelle. Firis was a really cute character and I do love the soundtrack, but I agree the gameplay was much more tedious and grindy.
With the new Atelier Yumia coming out, it will sure be up there from what I've seen in the Direct.
I hope someday they will actually consider remaking the older games like they did with Marie, if they do I think they should continue the Salburg games with Elie next followed by Lilie afterwards.
The iris series on PS2 will always be my favorite. Ryza a close second
Same! With Mana Khemia 1&2. For me these games were peak Gust music.
@@Terranigma23 ar tonelico 1&2 as well! Great music!
I bought Atelier Iris because of the bonus music box, and it was great. The remix CD that comes with Iris 2 is amazing.
@@isaacconner8622 Ar Tonelico 1 and 2 is amazing... I actually ended up getting every single Ar Tonelico sound track and drama cd I could find, fanmade and otherwise lol.... only cost me a couple thousand dollars ;S but don't tell anyone.
started sophie 2 loved it now steamsale and got the whole series and restart with game 1. fell in love with the atelier games (and also trails). also a really great list you did ! it is cool how the tier lists are always different ! i do hope ryza has not cursed us forever since the next one looks similiar and more action focused. hopefully will be relaxing and turn based too. butt sells i guess -.- i like big cloaks though. XD
I just unlocked catalysts in Sophie 2, I was already spending lots of time crafting but that board you shown was crazy.
I really enjoyed Ryza's system as well but my favourite protag so far is Rorona, She's adorably naive and dorky. The music feels more unique and memorable compared to the other games in the series (The map theme and near forest are gems) it's very simple compared to the newer games but it's got so much charm.
YAS! rorona is just a fun goofball. you can't help but love her and want her to do well :D
This is a series that I've always put off because I just didn't think it was for me but I read a lot of similar reservations then they end up loving the games. I'll try out the first Ryza and see how I get on...
I think it is a series most people can get into. It is very inoffensive in the sense there isn't going to be much that will make you hate it. At worst, it will be just indifference and you play one game and that's it. At best, you end up loving it and buying all the games lol
The best part I like about Firis is when the game introduces the duplicating system.
The ending of Sophie 2 actually made me cry. Definitely one of my favorite games ever.
I really enjoyed this video! I’ve watch it back countless times! And I ordered Atelier Sophie 2 for my Nintendo Switch, this will be my first Atelier game and I can hardly wait! I played world of Warcraft for about 5 years. I leveled a Druid with Alchemy and Herbalism as my profession. I also did lots of fishing for materials to make potions and elixirs! Atelier Sophie 2 from what I have read has it all!! I’m so excited. Thanks for sharing this amazing video. I hope to see more content for future Atelier games coming in 2025 and beyond!
Clicked for the thumbnail! want to invest heavily into the series soon so this is a huge help
For atelier games, i actually have a hard time finishing the later games because there are no time limits. On the other hand, the earlier games with time limits are easier for me to play because there's a goal and a limit, which meant i know im actually progressing through the game and lets me focus on that. And also sometimes, the lack of a time limit kinda breaks a bit of the immersion, storywise. Like in Ryza 1, when Bos went missing and you are supposed to find and rescue him... there's really no sense of urgency because you can spend 10 years preparing and he'll still be fine. lol. granted Atelier games aren't really that focused on the story department, but still. maybe simply because im more used to the likes of Rorona or Ayesha were there are things at stake related to the time limit. the sense of urgency allows me to actually want to finish the game.
yes, the stupid feeling for urgency but we have freedom to do anything without time limit XD
I completely disagree, I hate any games with time limits or calendar systems, I prefer more open ended games, these are video games not movies, more freedom to do what I want the better, the newer Atelier games are so easy but so much better at the same time
I'm just coming to the end of my Trails journey, on Daybreak now, and have been thinking about what will come next prior to Daybreak 2. I've got Ryza and Sophie 2 and have always wanted to dive in, but I think this video might have convinced me now is the time!
Thanks for this video, I really want to get into Atelier but there's so many of them, I think I'll give it a try to Ryza and Sophie
gosh i love the atelier series.
your local shrink will give you pills that mess you up even more and have ton's of side effects.
i, on the other hand, will prescribe you to play as many atelier games as possible. they are natural anti depressants without side effects.
you're welcome
Nut-man: You wouldn't believe how much fun I had just watching this video about your experience with the 14 modern Atelier-titles. I only played »Nelke & the Legendary Alchemists«, not knowing this is not your typical Atelier game, and »Atelier Ryza« which I enjoyed soooo much (really, so much fun)! Your video made me remember: »Yes ... I need to play more games out of this series«. Currently in the endgame of »Trails of Cold Steel 2« (which is also a joy to play) so I'm not sure if I should continue with »Legend of Heroes« (ToCS3) or with an other »Atelier« game (most probably »Ryza 2«).
All the best and thank you so much for this video. 😊❤
Peace! 🖖
These games aren't going any where, so take your time with whatever you choose!
Absolutely agree with where you placed Ryza 2.
It's certainly not perfect, however, I don't quite understand why so many players see Ryza 2 as the weakest in the trilogy.
It's more polished in every aspects compare to Ryza 1 (i.e. combat system and synthesis system), and it wasn't rushed out like Ryza 3 (i.e. the underwater section was flat and monotonic; the arrangement of songs and pieces reminds me of Czerny's Études; I tried to take the story and plot seriously, but I just couldn't be more careless about the new characters).
it's my favorite even though it broke my heart at the end.
but i would still let it break my heart again and again because it's that good!
The big issue seems to be the story for most people, which was weird to me as Atelier up till that point was never about the narrative.
Rorona was my first, so best one for me. Just randomly bought it because I had a craving for a jrpg one day and was super angry when I noticed there is barely any fighting. That quickly changed, though. I couldn't believe how "weird and different" this gameplay was.
I already have Atelier Sophie, and I think at the start I'll stick with that one and Sophie 2. Then probably move on to Ryza 1 and 2, and see if I want to play 3. Then look into the Dusk trilogy. After that I might, if I'm really interested, look into the rest of Mysterious and the Arland games.
Never played an Atelier game but the passion of the fan base is there because the games must be fun. The new entry that was just announced looks pretty outstanding at first glance.
Yep this was a delightful surprise to find❤
Delightful because your top 5 atelier games are this pirates as well and for very similar reasons mind you.
Ryza was actually my very first Atelier game and what caused me to dive deeper into the series as a hole.
Loved Sophie 2❤❤ so much it was a pleasure playing through that game honestly
Thank you so much for the video
Im on my third try of Totori and the second time i even followed a guide! (It was lacking and caused problems but taught me a lot) I got so frustrated i put it down for a bit but, when people ask me about it I say it's great and I love it. It's got a lot going for it, I only wish it had some more direction
totori is so hard. i love her to death but i never manage to get anything but the bad ending. which breaks my heart 😭
@MrGnuh yeah. I think I can get a good ending now after playing through it a few times but...... it definitely feels like if you wanted to play the game blind, you have to play the game through quite a bit maybe even multiple times, just to beat the game on a later playthrough
I love them all. I played a lot of them on the PS Vita though and haven’t played any of the rereleases and for that reason Firis is by far MY lowest point and it’s all down to performance issues. If there is a decent sale I will try them again on Switch or PC.
Overall despite not being my first Atelier game, Ayesha is hands down my favourite. I can’t really explains why, It was just the right game at the right time. I loved every moment in that world.
Way back when Sophie 2 was first announced, I had zero expectation for it, but after playing it for real, it's definitely one of the best modern atelier game out there heck even far surpassing both Ryza 1 and 2, which also the series where I actually starting my Atelier journey.
Atelier Sophie 2 is definitely my favourite Atelier game as well, right after Ryza 2. Though I'd say that I enjoyed Lulua more than Lydie & Suelle probably due to the alchemy system and that I was under constant pressure of getting the true ending for Lydie & Suelle.
I'm kind of interested in Escha and Logy before, seeing that you rated it higher than most Atelier games is pretty reassuring. Unfortunately I couldn't get individual copy of the game for the Switch. All Dusk games are bundled in a trilogy. I might still get the digital version though.
Getting the individual copies of the older games is quite difficult nowadays. I've only managed to find Totori myself.
Kiseki Nut, which one has your favorite atelier theme? For me, my favorite is Sophie's first atelier theme. And 2nd place is her second one.
If you're looking for something more difficult, I recommend 'noora and time studio'. A work created by Mr. Yoshiike, the creator of the Atelier series, with ATLAS.
I am not color blind myself, but because of color blind content creators, paying attention to accessibility has become a habit of mine. It is a very valid point of criticism, especially with how easy it is to solve.
Ryza 1 is the only Atelier game I've played so far. It was a nice change of pace coming out of Cold Steel 4. It felt a bit lackluster playing it after the Trails games, but relying on the crafting system to be able to defeat bosses was a fun different approach to a fantasy story. I think I'll at least play Ryza 2 and 3 some day, because I had fun spending time with those characters. Even grinding for materials wasn't so bad compared to some other games. And even with the big threat looming in the background the game felt very cozy overall.
you nailed it, kinda crazy that your list is pretty much the same as mine when not including the ones that I haven't yet played
The one for the GBA, Marie Elie & Anis, was translated this year, making it a modern Atelier game. Since it is the best Atelier game, that now makes it the best modern Atelier game as well!
Bought Ryza 1 and 2 on sale when the series caught my attention and I intend to get to them eventually, but now it looks like I'll have to give a look to the two Sophie games as well.
I was looking into the Atelier games and the first one I bought was Atelier Sophie 2. That was like 3 years ago and never played it 😅but this gives me more reason to play it
THis video needs more views.
Very well made
I will need to come back here later after I finish Mysterious and Dusk trilogies, maybe some Arland - only some (first and last probably) because I dislike harsh time limits (done with Ryza and Marie now), to comment my own list ;) At this point I can say that I agree with Ryza 2 placement, I also consider it the best game in trilogy, even if it's weakest story in my opinion - but characters, their interactions and personal growth, general feel of the game and gameplay, all carry it so much.
Thanks for opinion!
Atelier Ryza 1 was my first Atelier game. While it wasn't my cup of tea thanks to the characters toward most of the game, the ending portion gotten me somewhat hooked so I bought ryza 2. That, however, had gotten me to want to play more Atelier games so I bought the mysterious trilogy when I had the money to. (still have yet to play them though)
Now I'm just waiting to get Ryza 3 and Yumia (which seems like more my speed) and maybe sophie 2 after I finish 1
God damn my guy out here with the W's.
I love Escha and Logy and it deserves 2nd while Sophie 2 is the king.
Anf whats funny is I was scared to get into Sophie 2 cuz I didnt know if Id like it SO glad I got it on sale for 30 USD
The exact video I was looking for yesterday and I could not find. That's weirdly convenient.
Oooh, tough question. I'll admit, as much as I love Ryza, I have to give Sophie my vote, cause she was my exposure to the series back on the PS4
You have such great pacing with your videos. Perfect speed.
I totally agree with your list and every comment you said on each.
Sophie 2 to me is the perfect atelier, i also love turn based. So ryza games don't hold a candle to sophie 2 for me and are a bit below.
I'd also put escha/logy 2nd since before sophie 2, it was my fav atelier and first ever platinium 🥰
I think your timing was brilliant on this video. Lol the new one just got announced for literally everything so I found it cause I've never played the series
Lovely stuff mate. Thanks for taking the time to put this treasure together. 👍🏼
I still have to play the dusk trilogy and Sophie 2, but your ranking is almost the same as mine ! Except I place Totori DX on the lower end. It is a game that moved me, I cried after ending it, but it also frustrated me a lot !
I just subbed for news of the Trails remske and now i find out you also love Atelier? Fav channel now
Well, I'm glad some people enjoyed the grid based alchemy systems. I hated them. I feel vindicated that someone else thought that Ryza 3 made a mistake using new people like they did Im also happyto see totori get a high rank. Ithink lulua is better than what it was placed at. For me it had the best alchemy system of any atelier game. I also enjoyed the mini task system of the mysterious book. I might eventually give sophie 2 a play later, but from what I hear, making a "perfect" piece of gear in that game is very difficult, and that's bad news for my ocd
My starting point to this series is Meruru which I think is really weird but I’m having fun 😂
oh my sweet jeebus 🎉 yes atelier sophie 2. i always wondered is it just me or sophie tops my gameplay experience than ryza series. turns out im not alone 😂 💯 agree!
Escha and Logy was my first pure Atelier game and still my number one. One of the few times I did a double playthrough when a game gives you a choice between protags. Sophie 2 is my very and I mean very close second. Ryza 2 comes up in my third.
Personally I couldn't stand Lydie and Suelle. It got to the point that it was hard to continue playing the game and I did end up stopping at the mansion area painting. For me personally they are the worst protags in the series.
Mana Khemia is still my favorite of the franchise and I still hope for a Mana Khemia 3.
You referred to 3 of the Arland games as “the final” or “the third” entry, I was looking everywhere through the video for the ‘second’ Arland game lol
I haven’t finished your video yet. I’m still on number 12. I’ll edit when I’m done but already..
Firis and Lulua are in my top 3! As a protagonist Firis and Totori are my favorites. I feel they had the best progression.
I loved the party quests in Firis and the outcomes of each one. The whole mystery of each character trying to find their place in this world.
But I agree. The alchemy is kinda ass and doesn’t really feel worth it until NG+
I agree with shalle being in the bottom… I think it could have been a great game if it was just the brown hair shalle. I didn’t like the green hair.. my least favorite of all the girls.
Sorry for the long comments. Atelier is my favorite series. It’s nice having a series that seems more geared to us girls lol
Overall I like your ranking. They can’t all be number one.
I love Atelier Escha and Lodgy and I have been enjoying Atelier Meruru. The older entries seem to have a more femenine and interesting vibe for me.
Mmm, great thumbnail! 😏 But in all seriousness, this is an awesome video my man!
Atelier ryza 3 is my favorite game from the franchise, altough I only played ryza and ryza 3 XD. I had my eye on Sophie 2 for a long time, with your video maybe is a good time to take more serious the idea of playing that game.
Also I have my eye on Atelier Marie Remake, but I don't know If I should give it a try. If you have to put Marie Remake in the list, where do you put it?
I always want to love this series because the story and characters look so fun, but the modern take just never holds my attention. The Iris series is where I started, and the drastic shift in gameplay just never took for me. Regardless glad to see you and so many other enjoying the series!
Iris and Mana Khemia were very much the outliers, they were an attempt by Gust to 'streamline' Atelier, but they nearly ended the series all together. The focus on crafting was always what Atelier was about.
@@TheKisekiNut That is extremely fair, and while I miss that more streamline approach I have plenty of other games to fill that itch and am glad they made a call to pivot to what the majority of the fans enjoy and are still around. I have come to terms that these games will never be my speed gameplay wise, but I enjoy watching summary and explanation videos. All the second hand joy without what I personally find tedious.
Im halfway through ryza 3.
I beat ryza 1,ryza2, and sophie 2 so far. Ithink i really shouldwrap upthis trilogy that got me into the franchise.
I played just all the Dusk and mysterious games, and my favourites in order from best to worst are Escha and Logy, Lydie and Suelle, Firis, Sophie, Shallie and then Ayesha. I liked Logy the best which is why E&L is my fave, and it had the best alchemy system. From mysterious i found firis really cute and actually quite liked Firis, the open world was pretty fun. Although I felt that L&S was a major upgrade, enjoyed all the recurring characters, alchemy, solid story and concluding Mysterious. I hated Shallie, it was sooo boring with no challenge and boring characters, was half asleep with that, the life task system was pointless. Ayesha was ok but hated the stricter time limit and it felt dated, the DX bosses were insanely hard. Sophie was ok, again super easy. I still have Sophie 2 to play so am hoping that will be better than the first game
nice list also totally agree with escha and sophie 2 being top picks (my only gripe with sophie 2 is it not really having a super boss/postgame dungeon where we could go lose on perfect otherwise)
im disagreeing with you on best ost though to be that still belongs to ayesha
That's fair, opinions are always subjective. Meruru for me had a huge amount of songs that appealed to my tastes, so it was my favourite by a distance.
@@TheKisekiNut defintiely fair i just really love the vocals in it
Sophie 2 is great up until that aura guard thing almost every enemies were suddenly capable of doing mid-way through the game. Then I lower the difficulty to easy but it made the entire battle experience really annoying.
I played the older version of Sophie which is removed from the Steam, they changed it to the better version. It was good, minus graphics and weird sound staging.
So good that i never actually buy the much 'better' graphics Ateliers.
And oh, the price was the best. No other Atelier has the perfect pricing other than that.
I am gonna give Sophie another try I think. I fell off I think due to lack of overarching narrative but I was enjoying it otherwise...
Though some of the games I prefer are on the lower end here I can understand why they're their. I can wholeheartedly agree that Sophie 2 is one of the best in the franchise so far. And yeah Ryza 3 was incredibly bloated and I'd say the story could've ended close to 15-20hrs sooner and that it's the weakest game in the Secret Trilogy.
It’s insane how different our taste is 😅 firis, shallie, lulua are my top 3 with lydie easily being my least favorite one.
Anyways, long live this wonderful series!
Opinions differ! Lydie and Suelle did a lot of things right for me, not so much the bottom 3.
@@TheKisekiNut and that’s the magic of the internet ❤️ love your channel.
Ryza 1 was alright i loved ryza 2 but ryza 3 was too overwhelming for me...with the ryza games i only ever played as ryza never really switched between characters ... I am currently playing sophie 2 id much prefer the turn based combat at least the party members can be used
It's disheartening to see the newer Atelier series games resorting to fan service in order to sell their games.
It all began with Ryza's first game...
Not. really, Ryza 1 doesnt have that much fanserivce.
@@SUPERVEGETTO92 I meant all the fan service began with “thick thighs save lives,” which sadly started around Ryza 1.
I can’t understand people who say this. The games have been including characters and cgs explicitly for fan service purposes forever. The whole high impact sexual violence meme was from atelier
It's because for Ryza, her character design is very obviously created with sex appeal in mind, unlike the others which are just cute girls. I wouldn't say any of the others have that design philosophy (in their own game at least. Mommy Rorona hahh hahh) @@csrjjsmp
@BlueCrimson10
The devs have explicitly said that they didnt expect Ryzas design to be so popular with the fanservice crowd.
I'm just curious where the Marie remake would rank on this list
I was thinking about playing Atelier Marie Remake as my introduction to this series. Where might you rank it on this list, if it were a modern game (Unless I'm a goof and somehow missed it?)
0:40 you and me both friend!
I only played Ryza 2 and 3 and i definitely agree Ryza 2 is the best with story, combat and characters and of course Alchemy mechanics the only flaw was the dumb girl who like Tao who returns on sequel for no reason, Ryza 3 on other hand is hardly better the three new characters weren’t that needed besides the tanned girl, they wasted Serri and cliff being one time characters, the chests and shops are worthless, the story is bland and the world is hollow big and finally the improved alchemy is not necessarily better it’s just easier but doesn’t allow stacking stats which honestly is why I loved messing around with Ryza 2 recipes.
All great games.
Can't complain with a Sophie game at number 1.
You can take all female protag Atelier games but my heart will always for Mana Khemia! (Escha & Logy is cool tho)
Im just nervous about Atelier Yumia, the gameplay shown was only 30fps, it would be such a shame with so much lost potential to release a game with such a low framerate
never played any aside the 3 original atelier iris
Biggest problem for me is how those games make my cpu skyrocket in temperature instead using the GPU for some reason. 10 minutes on firis, I think it was firis, and CPU was almost 92ºC
Yeah Gust PC ports aren't the best. I didn't have any problems with Arland or Dusk trilogy, but Mysterious is when I really began to notice how much of GPU it would eat it even though I was barely doing anything. Somehow just going from fullscreen to windowed made GPU consumption go from 90% to 60% so I have no clue.
Agreed there, the PC ports aren't that good most of the time but even my own rig got by with no problems, so not sure why your hardware was having issues.
@@Callum5211 There's a project called Atelier Sync Fix which can massively improve performance for the Mysterious series and games released after it. I applied it to Atelier Sophie and my framerate almost doubled.
...custard filled donuts are my favourite donuts...
I just could not get into Sophie or Sophie 2. I don't know why..
I need to try them again.
Sophie is very dated but Sophie 2 is amazing even without having played the first
Escha and Logy is my favorite one for all the same reasons but I haven't played Sophie 2 so we'll see. Also how dare you insult custard donuts they're my favorite.
We can't be friends.
... yeah... I hate crafting... I did finish Marie and play at least 3 other ones.
I kinda wanted to finish Escha and Logy but oh well.
bruh what is that jazz track playing during the Escha to Logy section?
The music in the Atelier for Escha and Logy. Every song is the Atelier theme for that respective game.
Ryza was my first game on PC i play all trilogy before Military calling me
The old atelier game first time i play on ps1
Sophie 2 top 10 JRPG ez
Based Escha(to)logy enjoyer
For Atelier series I really believe the newer the better kek. Unlike *ahem* certain Fantasy games *ahem*.
Wish I bought Sophie 2 and Ryza games before KT hiked regional prices to unfair levels.
These games are nearly unaffordable unless they go on deep sale, very scummy behavior.
I love Lulua. But yeah no the endgame boss is a huge spike and where as Ryza the only thing needed explaining for example being seeds Lulua i needed a guide to understand anything
Also one of these days ill clear the older arland games but idk if im just bad or missing something but feel weak in rorona. Badly
Escha and Logy for me....but then that's the only one I beat...
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Gacha gaming isn't gaming. It's gambling with extra steps. Glad you didn't include them.
Atelier Firis sounds like a nightmare
For me personally Ryza 1&2 the third game was like sam raimi Spider-Man 3.
Spider-Man 3 was a masterpiece! The world just wasn't ready for it when it came out.
Ryza all the way ❤