Atelier Taught Me How to Love "Comfy" Games
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- Опубликовано: 25 мар 2023
- I've been playing Atelier Rorona and Totori and I gotta say I love them and I finally get why this series resonates with people so much, they even taught me how to appricate games I wouldn't normally play
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Atelier Rorona taught me how to hate comfy games. Atelier Marie taught me how to love them even after that experience.
Dusk is something that will make you comfy... and depressed, or maybe melchanholic.
Sophie is the jackpot of comfy. Would be my top recommendation.
Give me melchanholy and hidari art please :D
I NEED it
Yes, the Dusk series is definitely a must play lol 😆
Your dad sounds awesome! Very nice backstory behind this
Well, the thought is what matters, even if it is a bit out there.
he has his moments haha :D
sadly every nice comment swells his ego and makes him stronger
man i feel ya. i started with ayesha and these were the games that kinda taught me to stop sweating time limits so much, and also to stop being an item hoarder.
on that note, the dusk trilogy's pretty great, and you can REALLY see the evolution of the alchemy mechanic in that series, it gets pretty deep pretty hard.
I am very much looking foward to getting to the dusk series, I got ayesha sitting on my laptop all good to go and modded to fix some visual problems with the DX port
just gotta find time with all these releases
After playing the ryza trilogy and fairy tail ive definitely become a gust fan over the last 4 years or so
Dude, you're not alone!
The dusk trilogy is the best (Especially Ayesha) once you get through it.
first: Stick figure family memories are a treasure.
second: Sterk is bestest best boy, I adore him so much
Third: great vid, glad you got past that barrier! I would say playing dusk trilogy after meruru is a good idea considering Lulua may have some QOL features thanks to being one of the newer titles.
also like... Logy.... thats reason enough to want to play dusk next.
but yeah it's nice to have some cozier games in the back pocket~ it hasn't personally helped me get into more farming focused games but who knows maybe one day.
I'm glad the world is finally ready for my artistic prowess and yeah sterky really is the best
Usually I always just pick the cute girl if I have a choice but hearing logy has the weird more unique version of alchemy means I'm more inclined on giving him a go instead
Yea I also started with atelier last year, but I started with ryza 2. I love that you get enough time to thinker in your atelier to make things and that there are different solutions to one problem.
I need to grab ryza 2 but its physical release is so expensive for some reason, I'm assuming it just never got restocked
As someone who knows many comfy games enjoyers, it's kind of the reverse of how a stressed person uses GTA or Doom to vent. So yes, no chill.
I really relate to this video.
I used to love Harvest Moon and comfy games as a kid but as a young adult I couldn't understand how people find games like Stardew Valley relaxing, always stressing out against time limits and making the most efficient farm possible.
This video really makes me feel like I need to change this mindset if I want to enjoy those games again (and not die young of a heart failure)
Join me jenry
Enlighten yourself and embrace tranquility
Join me jenry
Enlighten yourself and embrace tranquility
I love the dinner chat in Sakuna!
My favorite Atelier title so far is Ayesha, although I think Ryza is the most accessible to start with the series. And somehow I find Blue Reflection even more cozy.
blue reflection is definately one I wanna jump on, I've owned it for ages
I never heard of this series until like 45min ago and it got me interested. RUclips just recommended this video and it actually made me laugh a few times and it got me invested in the series. So thanks for that
Oh man I guess I'm doing my job right then haha :D by all means I hope you enjoy
Being an internet funny man (derogatory) can be a little nerveracking throwing jokes out into the void and hoping people laughed at them somewhere so I appricate the comment
@@Kraftium I can only imagine how nerve racking it must be. But I actually enjoyed all aspects of the video very much, so I would say you are doing a good job so far. Keep it up
Hey Kraftium, glad to drop by in one of your vids from the Junnies, Atelier Escha & Logy Alchemist of the Dusk Skies is my favorite Atelier game, the 2nd game from the Alchemist of Dusk trilogy. Atelier is definitely a niche series but man, the ost in these games are great 👌
I definately hear from alot of atelier fans that dusk and by extention escha and logy are the best of the series so I am very excited to give it ago
glad you droped by and enjoyed the video dood :D
Np, happy to drop by, and your video was really entertaining 😎👍
The old me would have probably cracked under the pressure but the new me is not afraid of games made for girls anymore. That line is so golden. This video is so true. I'm finding my footing with Ryza and I am excited to go to into the rest afterwards!
Also I didn't know there were multiple endings so now I got to think about that now
the multiple endings aren't to scary, the generic ones are all pretty easy to get and you physically get to pick which one you want from a menu based on what you've passed the requirements for and the character specific ones become available from completing quests lines (and getting a good enough generic ending)
I feel your entry into the franchise so hard. I also owned something arland related (i had the trilogy on ps3 since i saw it was like 4 bucks and I saw anime so i bought it) but never tried any until around Ryza dropped then I tried with Totori because a friend I knew had a Totori avi.
I think its funny when you assosiate a character to a friends pfp more than you do a game
I've had friends say holo looks weird without her shades to them thanks to me lol
Im currently playing stranger of paradise final fantasy origins so i appreciate the reference to Jack with your love of games with job systems, i know your talking about comfy farming games but i definitely can appreciate any game with a good job system, i know SoP is just as much a soulslike as it is a JRPG but the job system is definitely a callback to older FF games like FF5 and FF Tactics, but i think we are all here because of our love of RPGs, and both crafting and material gathering have always been a part of this genre as a whole
hell yeah I love jack garland he's the best
also FF5 is peak as well, in my top 3 FFs with 9 and 12 TZA
Man, your experience with Rorona was similar with me lol.
I was not stranger to atelier though, i already played a couple of them, but never actually learn the game mechanic.
I tried rorona and instantly put them off for a year.
For some reason i decided to play rorona, i dont remember why, but probably similar to your reason, and then instantly get hooked up
I started with Ayesha on PS3 and it really made me fall in love with the series
really looking foward to getting to the Dusk Trilogy
Ayesha is peak cottage core and I adore hidari's art style
I hope that this won't be the last time we see family member memories/stories as presented by Paint.
if umineko taught me anything its that MS paint make the best character portraits
@@Kraftium This is just factual.
PLAY BLUE REFLECTION AND THE SEQUEL!!! I am currently playing the sequel and it's even better. I don't know if I'd be into the Atelier series because I don't like crafting and stuff but I feel like I should give one of them a try one day just so I know 100%.
aaaaaa I need to, I've have blue reflection installed but unplayed for far too long
theres just too many games *sob*
you might like atelier? like I definately roll my eyes when I usually see a craftiung system but I feel like thats probably due to it being something thats just tacked on for the sake of CONTENT. having actual thought put into it makes it alot better. also hunting down specfic ingredience isn't usually* a problem since most of the time you can create what you need out of other ingredience you have
I myself also started with the Arland games, although I ended up playing them in reverse order (Not counting Lulua since it wasn't out at the time), starting with Meruru Plus on the PS Vita (I got it when it was on sale and could only afford one game at the time). I ended up loving that game so much, and while you mentioned Atelier games have a low playtime... my initial playthrough for that specific game ended up being around 80 hours, although I was definitely being stingy with time when possible. I did go back and play the other two and enjoyed them both a lot, each one having a different feel, although at this point in time I do still need to finish Lulua.
Also the ability the Plus versions of the games have to swap out music from older Atelier titles as well as a few other GUST games is something I really enjoy too, GUST has some crazy good music in their games.
Usually I spend tons of time combing games to make sure I won't miss any secrets and 9 times out of 10 the sheer intensity of how much i do it doesn't pay off I really kinda dig how having a time limit means that atelier basically slaps my wrists and go "NO ... keep on course"
also the music stuff is very robust I like it alot, I never changed the music too much cos I wanted to stay faithful and also I was kinda spoilt for choice but I did swap out the rorona battle theme for the "new" rearrangement of it so it sounded a bit more punchier
Sterk
Sterky my beloved
@@Kraftium still a lil annoyed Rorona and Sterk hadn't gotten married by Lulua tbh!!
@@mrp1234 I think its more that Gust have to keep them single for rare pait shippers and people who want to picture themselves with either of the 2 of them
from what I've seen they're very obviously supposed to be canonically together
@@Kraftium yeah, they're not the type of games to officially canonize much of anything
nice you enjoy atlier now myself started with arland series too back when they released theire plus versions on vita
as for dusk its more combat focused and theire ost is amaizing you have something to look forward to
Oh dusk's got more indepth combat?
interesting I might end up liking it even more than I thought then
@@Kraftium yeah it has a bit more depth and its more focused on it in general where arland are way more focused on alchemy this being said alchemy is still a big focus in dusk games just a bit more combat to it too
also tip for ayesha if you want to save time in plus/dx version you can swap members after completing page 4 of the album missions this will save you a lot of ingame time
realistic car race games are basically my version of your cozy game problem
I'm mostly an arcade racing game fan like burnout and splitsecond but I definately see the appeal of realistic car sim racing games, especially once you know how to play (i suck racing games)
I saw you in The Gaming Shelf's video, well, I saw Holo to be fair (Best Girl Ever btw) and decided to give ya a go. Glad I did! I've long considered the Atelier games but thought they were a bit too "fidgety" for me (I like my RPGs uncomplicated, hence my lifelong DragonQuest love). This video gave me the push to go ahead and give Ryza a shot.
Ey thanks for dropping by. I usually cover falcom and SMT among various other things
I love holo. My last name is Lawrence so I always joke that the 2 of them are my great great ... great grand parents
The alchemy system is a little intimidating at first but I kinda learnt how to interact with it from feel alone
I mean, tbh, Rune factory 4 and 3 in specific are super in depth JRPG's, with combat, crafting, and life sim aspects at the forefront and farming more so an optional gameplay mechanic.
5's more of a scuffed version of the former.
Welcome home!
also Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin is one of my favorite games of all time since you bring it up too
0:40 Additional thumbs up for your perfect description of the Animal Crossing fanbase at the beginning of the video. I guess a game where you live in a neighbourhood of animals would apparently just make the players believe they need to act like animals as well.
my theory is that playing animal crossing is the only time they're chill and so where they're not playing it they're concetrated balls of anger
I haven't played Arland series yet, I started with Dusk and absolutely love them. I just started the Mysterious series now, but I'm going to go back to Arland after instead of forwards to Secrets
I got the dusk trilogy all set up and ready to go on my PC, looking foward to mysterious series alot tho, idk why but the fact lydie and soelle have a nelke section in the DX version has be very interested
@@Kraftium Personally I think the Mysterious trilogy is a great one. Especially now it is a 4-part series. You start with Atelier Sophie, and you can choose to play Atelier Sophie 2 after that, or go on with the other games (Atelier Firis and Atelier Lydie & Suelle) and play Atelier Sophie 2 after that. Keep in mind that Atelier Sophie 2 is much more modern in both graphics and game play. Technically the story of that game takes place in between Atelier Sophie and Atelier Firis, but in practice there is not much referring to any of those games, so you can play it any time after the first Atelier Sophie game.
To react to your mentioning the Blue reflection games. Those games are very cozy indeed, but also have some tragic and sad moments. The story scene animation in the first game is a bit clumsy at times, but if you look over that, there is a very decent game. The second game (Blue Reflection: Second Light) is hands down the best of the two. Many of the things that I think where done very acceptable but also not perfect in the first fame, where hugely improved in the second game. It's a series well worth playing in my humble opinion.
Let's see:
Even after finishing Elden Ring I still find hard to start any Souls-like.
Stuff like Dead Rising and Atelier I'm either not fan of the time limit or too much depth into an system like crafting that I fear to fuck up if I don't understand it.
Even the supposed "comfy games". I don't feel a game about work and chores to be confy, I play games because they aren't like my work.
I got into atelier through meruru her personality is so cute
very!
one of xanthe's early roles too
I'm one of those degenerate who attracted to Ryza's certain body part but ended up playing almost all atelier (minus Totori and Meruru) and both Blue Reflection. Funnily enough, my experience playing Rorona isn't a fond one, since the time limit makes me anxious (even though I've already experienced time limit in Firis, but Firis' time limit is a complete joke). Now, that I'm way more experienced, since I already beat all Dusk series and Marie Remake, I want to give Rorona another tries.
Hey degen reasons are fine if they get you into the series, not like your going on about how much you love ryza/2B/etc when youve put a total of 2 hours into their games
Honestly playing meruru i made some mistakes midway through and its certainly snowballed into a less than fun time
Its not common the time limit can screw you and stress you out but it CAN so id def give arland another go
The Ateliee series is crack. Once I started I couldn’t put it down. I used to play ages ago but didn’t remember it much. But I got Ryza 1 last year and o for some reason the synthesis just CLICKED for me. I spent soooo much time finding and collecting the best ingredients and making and remaking weapons and armor and got so OP. Then I’d do some side quests or progress the story and having that freedom was so much fun. There wasn’t some wild shit happening like the world ending, it’s just some kids who are bored and want some adventure and want some direction in life. Ryza is so likeable. Then I bought the entire Ryza series, Sophie 2, Lulua and then the Dusk trilogy will be next. I buy the Ultimate edition of all of them which gets expensive but I regret nothing. It seems with Ryza the Atelier series is finally getting more mainstream attention in the west and it’s well deserved.
(Btw they’re on a super good sale now and until Feb 13 ((2024)) on the eshop and PlayStation store and I say this because I never see them on sale).
Dusk's the best trilogy in the series and Hidari only elevates it. I definitely recommend Ayesha NOT being your first title in the series, ain't really the most beginner friendly title.
Ironically, Escha and Logy, the second Dusk game, is one that I recommend as an introduction to the series. Coincidentally, it's also my favorite.
well I'm somewhat well versed with atelier now, just wrapping up meruru got a little burnt out/overwhelmed once I got the time extention cos I was running low on a bunch of resources, not sure if I'll get a great ending for meruru or not but once I'm done I'll be done
after that I'll probably do the post game of rorona and go through the marie remake before heading over to ayesha I'll be fairly wellversed by then
I had a similar initial experience, where I tried playing Sophie and just kinda stopped after a bit. I want to try these again at some point, probably gonna go with Ryza to ease in
if you done mind losing out on some small stuff i reccomend you play sophie 2 instead its pretty stand alone and its one of the best games in the series where sophie 1 is pretty mid
the new atelier marie remake might also be a good shout
I apparently only like 8-10 hours since its a remake of a PS1 game and all so it'll likely be a good in and out game to get a good feel for the series
@@Kraftium its a remake though so likely lacks some of the modern stuff i would say rorona plus/dx sophie 2 and ryza would be best starting points for a newcomer
@@Rick-eh1qn I want to play Sophie 2, but I fear to lose all the charater development/story from Sophie 1 ahah.
@@Terranigma23 lot of new characters to focus on only big returning ones are plachta and sophie which where handled well
Relatable.
I played blue refl games and then atelier you have to try bluenreflection games.
These gust games are perfect charming xalm games after a session on armored core 6, or soulsborne, ace combat, jedi fallen order, etc
you don't find bloodborne relaxing? : )
You don't pop on some ASMR and play Doom Eternal to wind down? : )
seriously tho I do own both Blue Reflection games I just need to ... actually play them, also need to beat nights of azure 1 and move on to 2
@@Kraftium i got the platinum for both blue reflection. I love then that much. Im just too lazy to platinum an atelier game. But since this is gust's flagship ip.
I made sure i am damn near 100 percent completion.
I just beat sophie 2 last week without even playing sophie 1 and im already interested in the mysterious trilogy.
I got into these games because my ex was really into them when we were together in the ps2 and ps1 days so i gave them a shot after we split and they became my main games. Them and the trails and tales games
Oh wow you're a true OG when it comes to atelier, I believe the PS2 games are quite a bit different right?
Always glad to see a fellow cultured trails fan tho I've not delved too deep into tales (only played symponia and berseria tho I do own vesperia)
I rate the Holo PFP. Ur opinion is right Holo is the best of all time. And i cant wait for s2
finished ryza 1's story and i love the game so much! now im having the big debate about what to buy next lol, since the games are on sale rn. its funny bc i bought the game 2 years ago, played for about 10 hours and decided I liked it better in theory than in reality and dropped it. picked it up randomly 2 years later to pass the time and ended up having hella fun
Heh welcome to the world of atelier series. I started this on the vita because "hmm this looks like an anime type game" lol
Lmao, that's actually how I got tricked to playing these fun slice of life genre games
I look forward to chanting "one of us" to every person who gets into atelier now
Opposite for me, for the longest time i've been in love with comfy games...
Oh have they soured for you these days?
@@Kraftium Could say that, but mostly because i have less and less time to play games anymore so that's why i like to save them until weekends if i can and play couple hours then.
But then again i have a lot of other games, videos and anime saved up by then so i barely get to play/watch any of them.
If you liked the Arland trilogy then play Lulua next since it continues on the Arland trilogy. Dusk series is my favourite
I might do, problem is the series has me spoilt for choice lol
@@Kraftium I can definitely understand that, I do think Lulua gets overlooked because it was released the same year as Ryza 1. However in my opinion Lulua is far superior to Ryza 1 in terms of story progression and gameplay, etc.
Don't play lulua after meruru.
It takes place at least 10 years after meruru and it shows in everything from the world to the mechanics.
I'd wait to play Lulua After at lease the Dusk Trilogy. (Ideally after the Dusk and Mysterious trilogy, but that might be too much)
You'll get more out of Lulua if you space it after another series.
Just came across this video looking to play Sophie 2 as my first atelier game, have you played any more since the making of this video?
I've played through meruru and am at the final stretch of the game but had a spell of burnout playing 3 games back to back but thats about it
I do the dusk trilogy installed on my laptop read to play as soon as I get in the mood again and finish meruru tho
ive been getting into the atelier games and ngl they're really stressful to me 😞😞
Let go of your attachments to a minmaxed playthrough
I believe in you
I am sick right now and considering trying Atelier games just because I also feel that I cant commit to anything with high intensity, lets see how it will go.
I've only ever played Escha & Logy but I did enjoy it for the most part. I don't think I really appreciated it though because I was only playing to finish as much PS3 games as I can, having gotten it late enough the PS4 already came out.
I didn't really click with Ryza though, for some reason.
I've just got into Atelier as well, playing Rororna now as we speak ouo
Ey nice I hope you enjoy it
Be sure to be nice to best boy sterk and best girl cory :D
Oh hello! Hehe, I ended up buying Ryza instead due to a friend's suggestion. Any game of the Atelier series is equally as fun though! Also Sterky is best boi.@@Kraftium
you should do more videos on atelier btw it was so fun hearing your opinon on the arland trilogy :D @@Kraftium
@@rachaelrandomassname1848 I do plan on doing more but I don't think I really have enough to say about indivdually, I do have the dusk trilogy all set to go on my PC tho so once I play those I'll do a video talking about all 3 together
welcome to the club 😁😁
Rorona is alot of fun! Get to experiment with alchemy! Plus theirs dungeon crawling dungeons! There are hidden cutscenes too.
My problems is with this game is that the cutscenes can happen unexpectedly even you didnt notice it!
I definately get you there
by meruru I got into the habit of just walking in and out of the workshop to get like 6 cutscenes in a row
I've tried my damndest to get into Immersive Sims through all sorts of entry points, and have never been able to finish one. I guess you can't force yourself to like very game genre
I say I love immersive Sims but thinking about it I think I've never finished on either (unless dishonored counts), I really should jump back on prey
I absolutely love the Atelier Franchise been playing it for years now and bonded with my Grandfather over them, it's amazing to see other people love them too!
Aw thats nice to have as memories
Which game is you fav?
Only person in my family who likes video games is my brother
@@Kraftium Atelier Firis and Atelier Lydie and Suelle both take the number 1 spot for me, they are the most enjoyable Atelier games in my eyes!
Your dad sounds so cute!!!
Time to try Jet Ion GP. A game my uncle gave me as a present two times, because he liked jets that much.
Only jet game I've played is the ace combat 2 remake on the 3ds but I liked it alot
@@Kraftium Oh, I said that cause it was made by Gust
@@MajorSpam oh ... now you have my attention, also looking at google image search this looks really neat, wouldn't of guessed it was gust by looking tho
to answer the last question : i really have an hard time get in to Final fantasy 14, The SaGa Series and Most open world games. i just wana play t he ubisoft style gameplay, but after 5 hours i just quit
As much as I've enjoyed this series the past year, it is a pain to get into. They do such a poor job of explaining the finer (and more important) details of the game that it wasn't until the 4th one I played that it all finally clicked. That said, it's now my 3rd favorite franchise.
yeah I basically fumbled my way through rorona and the first half of totori before I knew how passives and stuff really worked with synthersis
@@Kraftium I played Rorona thinking that Registering was for passively selling items, not being able to save days by buying them. Also didn’t know Cordelia’s request were the cause of low popularity until the last hour of the game
also uhhh the atelier ports until Ryza were deeply scuffed AF, for the Arland games get a PS3 they are hella better in that console or if the DX ports then PS4. otherwise good games the crafting is much hella simplified in Ryza (kinda like how crafting in Mana Khemia is "dead simple"), knowing which items to keep for later and when to spend now are also some of the problem solving you need to do.
for atelier games which are "ok": Mysterious (so far Sophie 2 is the most stable), Secret (all 3 games)
scuffed AF the first Arland trilogy (I have yet to play Lulua on steam).
passable but still has issues (Dusk)
I have yet to purchase Marie remake so.... can't comment
Oh its ok im aware of the technical foibles of gusts various port jobs
It took alot of tweeking but i was able to get atelier ayesha looking almost perfect on PC, with a mixture of playing around in the nvidia control pannel and finding a mod that injects basic anti ailising into the game (as well as the good old playing at 4K and downsampling to 1440p to reduce the problems from the missing mipmaps"
The newer games also have a universal mod called "atelier fix" that improves the CPU optimisation
Got an extra 15 frames from it in sophie 2 on PC when testing
Your dad is a Chad. If you are not a dad yet, you will get them qualities by time lol Some of us do anyway. I'm 34yo new father and I started loving to buy used stuff in good condition for cheap instead of new one lol
thighs Taught Me How to Love "Comfy" Games
How old are you?
old enough
"Cozy" and "comfy" have never described me. I've also never really cared for games that have mundane tasks in them, like watering plants or cooking. These games look like brain tumors to me.
The closest I could get to this is Recettear. It looks like a cute game like this, but in reality it's a cutthroat bastard simulator that forces you to embrace your inner Ferengi. After playing Recettear, I would sell my own family members, one organ at a time, and a reasonable and fair mark-up. It's..... fun?
If you get a chance, Recettear is on Steam. Highly recommended if you don't mind getting rid of all the mirrors in your home, since you won't want to look yourself in the eye after playing it. You'll do things you can't be proud of, but the profits will speak for themselves.
Great review.
I can get that, I nice relaxing evening of doom eternal or early game bloodborne is still my idea of a cozy time but I'm glad atelier is something I can enjoy too
I have Recettear (Capitalism Ho!) but i've never booted it for some reason I should boot it some time, I know I tried moonlighter on switch which is very much inspired from Recettear and I wasn't feeling it to much but I feel like I also need to give it a second chance
@@Kraftium The best part of Recettear is that you can actually skip all the dungeon exploring if you're a shrewd enough merchant. Just keep in mind that a single news announcement can force you to sell all of your inventory at a loss...
So, at this point you have the following on your list of "Already own, should play":
Evil Within
Evil Within 2
Recettear
If you ever decide to play some Code Vein for a video, I'd certainly co-op it with you. It's my favorite Souls-like.
@@100Servings homie my list of games I own and haven't played is large and vast
@@Kraftium Mine too, but at least I never admit that I'm going to play any of them. It would probably take the rest of my life to beat just my Steam library, let alone GOG, PSN, and console games I have lying around.
And yet I keep buying them.....🤔
"Comfy" must be a zoomer term.
despite being 26 I am what they call "down with the kids"
After playing the ryza trilogy and fairy tail ive definitely become a gust fan over the last 4 years or so