@reddexred I agree with you, but it takes a ton of money to develop a big engine to meet the low Co2 emissions we have in Europe. It's much cheaper to redesign an existing engine so that's why we keep getting basically the same engine for years
@Allexmax Well I totally agree with you. Unfortunatelly the aparently don`t. Why? Beats me. I fear that when the new C5 III. generation comes out it too won`t have the 3.0 liter version that it now has. Because the patern seems to be like this. 407 didn`t have 3.0 Hdi (240 bhp) 407 Coupe had it 607 had an older version 2.7 Hdi (208 bhp) and now 508 doesen`t have 3.0 Hdi. That`s just sad.
@Jean793 I like your thinking there Jean but the Tax and Environmental reasons dictate the way they make cars these days. The 2.2HDi is a fun drive though
french cars have one of the best suspension, and comfort in the business... but i don't get why they put underpowered engines in them...if they only had bigger or more powerful engines they'd be a serious competitor.....
1st Citroën, Peugeot and Renault are usualy brands for the masses = not luxury oriented (one of the exceptions being the legendary Citroën Sm www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/michelin/sm/sm-index.html) France used to have Bugatti, Delahaye, Delage, Hispano Suiza (French division), Avions Voisin, Panhard, Hotchkiss, Facel Vega, Simca, Matra, Venturi Ligier, Alpine. Some the epitomy of luxury, some of sportiness, some both. Do a little research. 2ndly punitive luxury tax regime in France after the 2nd World War: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower 3rdly Environmental reasons
Looks good, but the engines are weak,and emviromental friendly, rubbish thinking. This car is big,heavy and beautiful, why putting small engines?????!!!!!!!!!And front wheel drive?? Whyyyyy?? If these had rwd and bigger engines, it would be amazing!
1st Citroën, Peugeot and Renault are usualy brands for the masses = not luxury oriented (one of the exceptions being the legendary Citroën Sm www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/michelin/sm/sm-index.html) France used to have Bugatti, Delahaye, Delage, Hispano Suiza (French division), Avions Voisin, Panhard, Hotchkiss, Facel Vega, Simca, Matra, Venturi Ligier, Alpine. Some the epitomy of luxury, some of sportiness, some both. Do a little research. Although PSA Group has DS now (strives for luxury but only time will tell. The potential of the brand is huge but only if PSA pours all of their expertise into it) 2ndly punitive luxury tax regime in France after the 2nd World War: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower 3rdly Environmental reasons Since we are on topic of Peugeot Thats why we have something like this: ruclips.net/video/LPryVZvTgaY/видео.html More info: www.netcarshow.com/peugeot/2019-508_sport_engineered_concept/ Instead something like this: ruclips.net/video/70ymvk7d1KY/видео.html More info: www.netcarshow.com/peugeot/2006-908_rc_concept/ or this: ruclips.net/video/ypi5wtWef3Q/видео.html More info: www.netcarshow.com/peugeot/2004-907_concept/
@reddexred I agree with you, but it takes a ton of money to develop a big engine to meet the low Co2 emissions we have in Europe. It's much cheaper to redesign an existing engine so that's why we keep getting basically the same engine for years
Test drove the 2.0 hdi Allure yesterday. I found the engine to be quite loud in comparison to renault laguna 2.0 dci. I'd definitely go for 1.6 thp.
@Allexmax Well I totally agree with you. Unfortunatelly the aparently don`t. Why? Beats me.
I fear that when the new C5 III. generation comes out it too won`t have the 3.0 liter version that it now has. Because the patern seems to be like this. 407 didn`t have 3.0 Hdi (240 bhp) 407 Coupe had it 607 had an older version 2.7 Hdi (208 bhp) and now 508 doesen`t have 3.0 Hdi. That`s just sad.
Peugeot 508 you can buy as 508 GT with 2.2 hdi (204bhp) powerdevil
good effort
@Jean793 I like your thinking there Jean but the Tax and Environmental reasons dictate the way they make cars these days. The 2.2HDi is a fun drive though
french cars have one of the best suspension, and comfort in the business... but i don't get why they put underpowered engines in them...if they only had bigger or more powerful engines they'd be a serious competitor.....
1st Citroën, Peugeot and Renault are usualy brands for the masses = not luxury oriented (one of the exceptions being the legendary Citroën Sm www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/michelin/sm/sm-index.html)
France used to have Bugatti, Delahaye, Delage, Hispano Suiza (French division), Avions Voisin, Panhard, Hotchkiss, Facel Vega, Simca, Matra, Venturi Ligier, Alpine.
Some the epitomy of luxury, some of sportiness, some both. Do a little research.
2ndly punitive luxury tax regime in France after the 2nd World War:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower
3rdly Environmental reasons
You look as if you were on the batter last night!
Pyuzho?
Looks good, but the engines are weak,and emviromental friendly, rubbish thinking. This car is big,heavy and beautiful, why putting small engines?????!!!!!!!!!And front wheel drive?? Whyyyyy?? If these had rwd and bigger engines, it would be amazing!
1st Citroën, Peugeot and Renault are usualy brands for the masses = not
luxury oriented (one of the exceptions being the legendary Citroën Sm
www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/michelin/sm/sm-index.html)
France used to have Bugatti, Delahaye, Delage, Hispano Suiza (French division), Avions Voisin, Panhard, Hotchkiss, Facel Vega, Simca, Matra, Venturi Ligier, Alpine.
Some the epitomy of luxury, some of sportiness, some both. Do a little research.
Although PSA Group has DS now (strives for luxury but only time will tell. The potential of the brand is huge but only if PSA pours all of their expertise into it)
2ndly punitive luxury tax regime in France after the 2nd World War:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower
3rdly Environmental reasons
Since we are on topic of Peugeot
Thats why we have something like this:
ruclips.net/video/LPryVZvTgaY/видео.html
More info:
www.netcarshow.com/peugeot/2019-508_sport_engineered_concept/
Instead something like this:
ruclips.net/video/70ymvk7d1KY/видео.html
More info:
www.netcarshow.com/peugeot/2006-908_rc_concept/
or this: ruclips.net/video/ypi5wtWef3Q/видео.html
More info:
www.netcarshow.com/peugeot/2004-907_concept/