You have a very good engine on your hands. An original engine that has never needed attention means it was properly operated always and probably with regular intervals and operated either rich of peak. If I were you, I would learn from the original owner, who I am assuming put the majority of the hours on the engine, what characteristics they looked for in temperatures during operation and mimic those. If you change the way that engine is used to being operated, you will stir the dragon of fate. Many engines go over TBO, you only hear about the failures but many survive past it in the wild. I learned in real estate, you make money when you buy, not when you sell. The same applies to planes. Buy at the right price and you have locked in intrinsic and extrinsic value when the time comes to sell it down the road. Never buy assuming it will go up later and that the price is kind of irrelevant at the current moment.
I always get a kick out of it when Owen talks "pilot talk". I have no idea what the heck he's saying, but I'm still impressed. I've been a big fan of JR Garage for a few years and didn't think I'd enjoy JR Aviation as much. I was wrong. I love it! I wish I was younger, because after watching your videos, I've had the urge to learn to fly. But a bit late in life as I'm 71yo. How did that happen so fast?! 😮 Great job Jeffrey and Christian and Owen! Thanks! 😉
We had a G1 SR20 for a while, and it was a great airplane that did everything we asked of it! I do miss the comfort of the Cirrus on cross country flights, but the Wagon is just more practical for our needs at the moment. 🍻
I would order a replacement engine right away. Wait times are 6+ months in some cases, it is worth it to just do an overhaul rather than risk being down for a very long time.
I think you got a good buy. As you said, why buy a 60 year old plane for similar money, where you could be looking at major corrosion issues. Keep the great content coming!
Dear Bros, There always is a reason for a low price in second hand business no matter what the product is. I still think you made a good deal with this plane because the price for getting an overhaul for the engine never will meet the price difference to the same type of plane where the overhaul has been done already. Look forward to your next vlog and send you love from the Netherlands
Cirrus at one time used to ship certified aircraft to the UK 🇬🇧 for the European market and I used to assemble them here in the UK. I spent a month in Duluth at the factory training. Loved it there and great people in Duluth! I enjoyed working on the aircraft and was a certified chute installer, even spent a limited time behind the stick on test flights. Enjoy guys
I have to give you two credit, I don’t know if I could do what you guys do with flipping cars and airplanes! Well done and I look forward to you both getting your PPL.
You guys are very knowledgeable and able to take the risk. The engine and repack are not small items but you were confident enough to have 3 souls on board for the maiden flight home. Good luck with the aircraft and it as a good video.
I would prefer to purchase a mostly run-out engine. That way, I can have it overhauled or have a factory remanufactured engine installed to my satisfaction. I'll know exactly what was done. I've seen a few engines with minimalist overhauls in aircraft being sold as low time SMOH, demanding top dollar.
Wow you kids got some awesome business chops to be able to buy such expensive aircraft at your young ages, not to even mention the absurd cost of primary training in this day and age. Your very blessed. Well done guys 👏👏👏👏👏
As a non-pilot who has never owned anything more expensive than a well-used (3rd owner) car, you got a deal. I would do what the other commenter said and find out how this engine was run and run it the same. The plane is a gem imho.
I think you nailed the price, got a opportunity to fix everything and have 5%-10% profit on your hands. The ask for a ready to go sr20 1gen has increased to around 219k. Thanks for making these videos.
Um there is a reason that the engine manufacturer recommends a TBO. They factor in a safety level to keep you safe for a reason. You cant pull over if the engine fails in flight ! Recommendation = get it overhauled. Interesting on the BRS as well. Its there to save your lives and it has done so a number of times on the Cirrus for pilots. Don’t try and save a buck on safety related items. Skip the cabin tidy up and spend on the stuff that prevents an accident or subsequently saves your lives.
I work for an operation where we run lycoming engines to 4000 before overhaul. I wouldn’t stress about the high time engine too much. But I saw something in this video that is a #1 issue that over time results with needing top overhauls done. Pilots all love arguing about it but LEAN OF PEAK. If my opinion matters to anyone I just want to say do not fly lean of peak. This creates excess heat in the cylinders and reduces their life span. Fly rich of peak and build oil temp before run ups. Then we can all have fun flying around in our high time engines.
Crazy like a fox! Well done. It might be better to have a mechanic price the upcoming major before you have any issues rather than after observing that a significant issue has developed.
Great buy. From the video the interior and exterior look well taken care of, and the ADSB and upgraded avionics add to the value. Even needing an engine right away and the parachute, you're still way under what you could sell it for especially when you can advertise 'Very low time engine and lots of years left on the parachute"
You guys obviously knew what you were getting into, so sounds like a good buy to me. On a side note: Do they replace the parachute material or just repack? 20 year old parachute didn't sound like a good idea.
Love your approach in business W/R to Airplanes/Finance. This plane is very well worth it. Engine is doing great and very likely will provide years of flying by just following conservative maintenance regimen. Keep on FLYING!!!
There's a great book that talks about airplane engines. Mike Busch on Engines: “The risk of engine failure is greatest when your engine is young, NOT when it’s old. You should worry more about pediatrics than geriatrics.” -Mike Busch A&P/IA
I started looking through a couple more of your videos, pretty cools stuff! I'm looking forward to more, but I NEED the next video to be: HOW?! How do you afford this? Such radness must be something you can teach others. Looking forward to more on this SR20.
Read and watch Mike Busch on when to overhaul and the 5000 hour TBO engine. All those who are telling you to overhaul now do not understand that TBO has little basis in science. Fly the plane, do oil analysis and filter inspection with every oil change, and watch the trends. You are likely to get another 500-1000 hours or more if you fly it regularly and keep it hangared.
No question the Parachute and the Engine time were BIG factors in the price paid. Still if you've got the cubic dollars to take care of those things and any other squawks, it should make a great trainer indeed. Sign me up. Short flight from SDL to CGZ
Runout aircraft can be great deals, if you are able to accept the downtime. For private owners with a single aircraft that can be a huge downer as you're often still stuck with the fixed expenses of owning an aircraft, but without an aircraft to fly for maybe 6 months. For deal-savvy, multi-aircraft owners like you, blaze ahead towards glory.
Wait, the parachute costs 27k to repack etc every ten years. So 2700 dollars per year or roughly 250 dollars per month goes to the upkeep of that parachute, no matter if you fly the plane or not? For a light airplane? That's ridiculous!
Nope they've been buying planes for training, but have their friend fly them everywhere before selling it. Wait for next month when they sell this cirrus
it all depends on how much money you have in the first place. and then your mission. it doesn't matter what "you" or any "other guy" does. If you like the deal for yourself, it's a good deal. what the market is doing is irrelevant. If I want to spend $200K on a 172, who cares? It's my money and my values. On the other hand, if I'm a broker or thinking of the airplane as a profit center or asset or part of or actual business, then I need to consider what the market "thinks" as I'll be unloading it, and then I need to know what other people are paying for similar or identical products. As for your particular SR20, the avionics are old, the engine is old, the parachute is old. If I were buying it for my use, I'd upgrade the avionics, engine, parachute, control cable/rods, minimally, figure out what that would cost and then consider whether this particular bird was worth it vis.a.vis the market and my time frame of purchase...
Don't wait for problems with the engine to show up, likely while in flight. Put the $100k into the new engine, prop and parachute servicing now, and fly with confidence.
You'd be throwing away an engine that has proven itself over 2500 hours and shows no signs of failure for one that is an unknown commodity, completely unproven. The old one will start putting metal into the filter, or rings will stick and it'll lose compression, something like that. That's when you overhaul the engine. Then you fly behind a new engine for ~200 hours with your rear end slightly puckered up because "who knows?" You watch it closely, with a borescope and all of that, but you don't throw it away.
@@mattj65816 Never thrown away, the old one is a core trade-in. And the new one isn't an "unknown commodity, completely unproven". That's ridiculous, it's a factory new engine with warranty and tested before delivery and installation. Since when is a factory new engine the riskier proposition over one that's well past TBO?
10:44 Rain in SDL?! That's rare. Next time you're westbound thru TX, instead of ELP for a fuel stop consider KLRU (Las Cruces NM) where you can get some really good food at "Jim Bob's BBQ" located right on the flightline. Been there done that several times.
Continentals have a solid bottom end - they don’t eat cams like Lycomings.. Has it been topped - might get away with just putting some cylinders on it and continuing..
Being that close to the Super Guppy in El Paso is wild isn’t it? When I was a kid that thing used to fly over my house next to NASA all the time. I was getting gas at ELP a few years ago in my Mooney and my friends were laughing at me getting so excited seeing it up close!
I'm A&P I think you got a good deal, sure it might need an over haul later until then have fun and keep and eye on the engine oil consumption and change it regularly . later
Sometimes you can do your homework, but an element of risk is always there! Like you mentioned, to get a great deal done fast, you need to act on it! It's not your first plane, so you know you need Deeper than average pockets to maintain something like this! Life gives us chances, if you never take a chance, you don't really have a Life! 🚗 🛫 👍
Legit business practice: buy cheep with cash, improve it, and get the value out of it as use or capital gains Good showmanship! Keep your equity turning over. And propose to Sasha already... sheesh
The only thing that would have given me pause is that if the engine does go south on you soon, the engine overhaul world is a disaster right now. Long wait times, supply problems, high costs. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you!
10:16 Thats funny, thats the exact same super guppy that was at oshkosh this year. Its flown by nasa specifically to be able to carry outsized cargo that wont fit on any other plane in the world
I saw this plane in your latest video on the Zodiac and it is STILL grounded because of the parachute! These things add weight and about $3k per year in maintenance costs. Sounds good on paper, but not in reality.
The look on Jeff's face when he was aked the get the IFR clearance.😂😂😂😂 I know the feeling!! I remember my reading back my first IFR clearance with ny instructor...u talkin crazy butterflies in the stomach! We were at a airport where the controllers were known for grilling pilots for long or improper two way communications!! It was tons of fun anyway!!
You will have $178,622 in it after the parachute and the reman engine.. thats not counting labor to R and R the engine, get it passed an annual. and you will have a nice low time airframe with a 0 hour engine.. Good buy if they are selling for $179
Did you do a pre-buy, the most important thing is the camshaft and those are easy to inspect also if the lifters are spoiled they could be replaced and I think they're only 150 a piece. Continental has a service bolten on that if you follow that you might be able to get another thousand hours out of the engine. TBO is only a recommendation it's not required under part 91.
I flew to San Antonio in a Mooney 252 right along the Mexico Border, There was a radar balloon on a cable at 15,000 feet. It was marked on a chart. I just wondered if it was still there.
The parachute is idiotic but that’s Cirrus. It shouldn’t be mandatory unless there’s a threat to safety by rendering it inoperable after a certain time. I’m not knocking the safety aspect of having a parachute, but what an added cost to ownership. That said, I enjoyed this and look forward to more. Good luck on doing what’s necessary. I hope you’re able to flip it for a good profit. Or use it as a trainer as you said. I have to ask, because I’m new to your channel, why are you not a pilot? Clearly you get this question a lot and you can point me to a video that explains it, but why are you an aviation and not a mechanic or pilot? Just RUclips creator? Also, it is not fair to compare prices to a 172. Until they are similar hours (engine) of course. You’re about to put $50,000 or more into this plane. I’m looking to buy a 1976, 177 for a little more than your purchase price but it’s a brand new engine and propeller. But I guess this will always be the Ford versus Chevy, Xbox, versus PlayStation, of the aviation world lol. Looking forward to more content!
Traps for young players with airplanes; take sellers details at face value & not doing a pre buy ( unless you can do it yourself). Had many smiling sellers trying to polish a turd in front of my eyes. Your past TBO engine may well put a piston through your cowl or windscreen at anytime, that will cost you dearly. As far as cheap rebuilds, there aren’t any, period. Only lowball estimates that always blow out.
You will also need to look at the avionics upgrade if you don't mind. Those 430s don't look like WAAS and six-pack? really? Garmin won't even upgrade those anymore. S-Tec 55X A/P was mostly standard for Cirrus. We see many problems with Servos and connecting hardware failing in those early A/Ps units. Many are removing everything and upgrading to IFD stack or GTN package systems. But that will be the last thing after Engine and Parachute. Hint, reduce time in the shop and find a place that is a Maintenance and Avionics shop and have everything done simultaneously.
Can you do a video regarding Mike Patey’s video regarding his engine loss? He is an awesome person for the Aviation community! IMHO this was a Scary situation to be in!!
I am interested in you tracking the various fuel costs across the country. Any chance you can talk about the landing fees at these airports ? Stay passionate and true. Hello from London, UK : - )
Pardon my ignorance, but is a parachute necessary? Since it is to be used as a "training" aircraft doesn't that work against student pilots. The point is to learn how to fly safely using AQP, ( Ptobable Cause. Dan Grider), building a knowledge base, and not just to the point of knowing when to throw out the chute. What are the numbers of Cirrus fatals with the chute? Is this a safe way to save a ship load of $$,$$$ on the used market? Thank you.
You have a very good engine on your hands. An original engine that has never needed attention means it was properly operated always and probably with regular intervals and operated either rich of peak. If I were you, I would learn from the original owner, who I am assuming put the majority of the hours on the engine, what characteristics they looked for in temperatures during operation and mimic those. If you change the way that engine is used to being operated, you will stir the dragon of fate. Many engines go over TBO, you only hear about the failures but many survive past it in the wild.
I learned in real estate, you make money when you buy, not when you sell. The same applies to planes. Buy at the right price and you have locked in intrinsic and extrinsic value when the time comes to sell it down the road. Never buy assuming it will go up later and that the price is kind of irrelevant at the current moment.
Listen to this guy - he engines.
Nicely said! Agree 1000%
Dont you mean lean of peak?
@@francescaf7967 Rich or lean of peak I meant to write. The point is, duplicate the behavior the previous owner exercised.
I always get a kick out of it when Owen talks "pilot talk". I have no idea what the heck he's saying, but I'm still impressed. I've been a big fan of JR Garage for a few years and didn't think I'd enjoy JR Aviation as much. I was wrong. I love it! I wish I was younger, because after watching your videos, I've had the urge to learn to fly. But a bit late in life as I'm 71yo. How did that happen so fast?! 😮 Great job Jeffrey and Christian and Owen! Thanks! 😉
Next video: "How we saved $25k repacking the chute ourselves!!"
Hahah if only we could 😂
My kid is an FAA certified mechanic. Maybe he should pick up packing Cirrus chutes as a side hustle.
Lol. Owner assisted rocket science.
@@JRAviationDo you have to have the parachute? Local cirrus accident seemed to be worse because of the parachute deployment.
@@grant092987 No one has died in a Cirrus when CAPS deployed above 1,000' AGL and below Vne (200 kts indicated)
We had a G1 SR20 for a while, and it was a great airplane that did everything we asked of it! I do miss the comfort of the Cirrus on cross country flights, but the Wagon is just more practical for our needs at the moment. 🍻
I would order a replacement engine right away. Wait times are 6+ months in some cases, it is worth it to just do an overhaul rather than risk being down for a very long time.
Or risk being down when you wanna be up
@@toddsimone7182true that
I'd second this. Order the new engine now, and sell your old one onto an overhaul station.
The previous owner should be commended for taking excellent care of his engine to make it to 2,500 hrs and counting. Will it make it to 3,000 hrs?
Sounds like a well thought out decision on the purchase. A similar plane with a low time engine is no more predictable than what you bought. 20:18
I think you got a good buy. As you said, why buy a 60 year old plane for similar money, where you could be looking at major corrosion issues. Keep the great content coming!
10:14 OMG A SUPER GUPPY! The only one still flying!
Dear Bros,
There always is a reason for a low price in second hand business no matter what the product is.
I still think you made a good deal with this plane because the price for getting an overhaul for the engine never will meet the price difference to the same type of plane where the overhaul has been done already. Look forward to your next vlog and send you love from the Netherlands
Cirrus at one time used to ship certified aircraft to the UK 🇬🇧 for the European market and I used to assemble them here in the UK. I spent a month in Duluth at the factory training. Loved it there and great people in Duluth! I enjoyed working on the aircraft and was a certified chute installer, even spent a limited time behind the stick on test flights. Enjoy guys
I have to give you two credit, I don’t know if I could do what you guys do with flipping cars and airplanes! Well done and I look forward to you both getting your PPL.
It’s a lot of fun (and stress) but making fun content is the best part of this!
I doubt they will ever get licensed.
@@danblumel Why do you say that?
@@CCGR-2024 It is easy when you didnt have to start from scratch and had cash flow from family.
Yes, you guys did the right thing. 112,000 is a good buy. Even after you spend the money to bring it up to current.
do the updates including an engine overhaul, and flip it. You'd still be way ahead.
It’ll be a great day when JR posts
You guys are very knowledgeable and able to take the risk. The engine and repack are not small items but you were confident enough to have 3 souls on board for the maiden flight home.
Good luck with the aircraft and it as a good video.
I would prefer to purchase a mostly run-out engine. That way, I can have it overhauled or have a factory remanufactured engine installed to my satisfaction. I'll know exactly what was done. I've seen a few engines with minimalist overhauls in aircraft being sold as low time SMOH, demanding top dollar.
This comment right here. Get the high time engine in a low squak airframe and have it overhauled your way.
well they didnt buy a rebuild. they got the one that needs one, with the bonus that it still goes great...
Wow you kids got some awesome business chops to be able to buy such expensive aircraft at your young ages, not to even mention the absurd cost of primary training in this day and age. Your very blessed. Well done guys 👏👏👏👏👏
As a non-pilot who has never owned anything more expensive than a well-used (3rd owner) car, you got a deal. I would do what the other commenter said and find out how this engine was run and run it the same. The plane is a gem imho.
Great video. Is the young man in the right seat ever going to get his pilot’s license?
I highly doubt it.
This is legitimately amazing!!! I love seeing all of this progress going on and getting better and better.
I think you nailed the price, got a opportunity to fix everything and have 5%-10% profit on your hands. The ask for a ready to go sr20 1gen has increased to around 219k.
Thanks for making these videos.
Um there is a reason that the engine manufacturer recommends a TBO. They factor in a safety level to keep you safe for a reason. You cant pull over if the engine fails in flight ! Recommendation = get it overhauled. Interesting on the BRS as well. Its there to save your lives and it has done so a number of times on the Cirrus for pilots. Don’t try and save a buck on safety related items. Skip the cabin tidy up and spend on the stuff that prevents an accident or subsequently saves your lives.
10:11 Supper Guppy! Saw it land and take off at Oshkosh
I work for an operation where we run lycoming engines to 4000 before overhaul. I wouldn’t stress about the high time engine too much. But I saw something in this video that is a #1 issue that over time results with needing top overhauls done. Pilots all love arguing about it but LEAN OF PEAK. If my opinion matters to anyone I just want to say do not fly lean of peak. This creates excess heat in the cylinders and reduces their life span. Fly rich of peak and build oil temp before run ups. Then we can all have fun flying around in our high time engines.
I thought so too until I read Mike Busch's books.
Crazy like a fox! Well done. It might be better to have a mechanic price the upcoming major before you have any issues rather than after observing that a significant issue has developed.
Great buy. From the video the interior and exterior look well taken care of, and the ADSB and upgraded avionics add to the value. Even needing an engine right away and the parachute, you're still way under what you could sell it for especially when you can advertise 'Very low time engine and lots of years left on the parachute"
You guys obviously knew what you were getting into, so sounds like a good buy to me.
On a side note: Do they replace the parachute material or just repack? 20 year old parachute didn't sound like a good idea.
The whole thing is replaced.
@@cypilotiowan4761 repack had me confused. Thanks
wow $20k to have something replaced you're not likely to use!@@cypilotiowan4761
Love your approach in business W/R to Airplanes/Finance. This plane is very well worth it. Engine is doing great and very likely will provide years of flying by just following conservative maintenance regimen. Keep on FLYING!!!
There's a great book that talks about airplane engines. Mike Busch on Engines: “The risk of engine failure is greatest when your engine is young, NOT when it’s old. You should worry more about pediatrics than geriatrics.” -Mike Busch A&P/IA
I started looking through a couple more of your videos, pretty cools stuff! I'm looking forward to more, but I NEED the next video to be: HOW?! How do you afford this? Such radness must be something you can teach others. Looking forward to more on this SR20.
They have another bigger channel for exotic cars (JR garage) which probably feeds the capital a fair bit.... Next channel, JR finance maybe?! 😂
Read and watch Mike Busch on when to overhaul and the 5000 hour TBO engine. All those who are telling you to overhaul now do not understand that TBO has little basis in science. Fly the plane, do oil analysis and filter inspection with every oil change, and watch the trends. You are likely to get another 500-1000 hours or more if you fly it regularly and keep it hangared.
Totally agreed
No question the Parachute and the Engine time were BIG factors in the price paid. Still if you've got the cubic dollars to take care of those things and any other squawks, it should make a great trainer indeed. Sign me up. Short flight from SDL to CGZ
Runout aircraft can be great deals, if you are able to accept the downtime. For private owners with a single aircraft that can be a huge downer as you're often still stuck with the fixed expenses of owning an aircraft, but without an aircraft to fly for maybe 6 months. For deal-savvy, multi-aircraft owners like you, blaze ahead towards glory.
That loose IPad in the cockpit gives me the creeps… a wrong move and it can fly in the pedals. It happened already.
Wait, the parachute costs 27k to repack etc every ten years. So 2700 dollars per year or roughly 250 dollars per month goes to the upkeep of that parachute, no matter if you fly the plane or not? For a light airplane? That's ridiculous!
Yes, correct
Sky diver are required to bag there parachute, they had to take training courses.
New to the channel. Do the 2 guys at the beginning ever pilot the plane?
Nope they've been buying planes for training, but have their friend fly them everywhere before selling it. Wait for next month when they sell this cirrus
Congrats….like seeing you guys chasing your dreams!!!! Oh yea, when are you getting your pilots licenses?
it all depends on how much money you have in the first place. and then your mission. it doesn't matter what "you" or any "other guy" does. If you like the deal for yourself, it's a good deal. what the market is doing is irrelevant. If I want to spend $200K on a 172, who cares? It's my money and my values. On the other hand, if I'm a broker or thinking of the airplane as a profit center or asset or part of or actual business, then I need to consider what the market "thinks" as I'll be unloading it, and then I need to know what other people are paying for similar or identical products. As for your particular SR20, the avionics are old, the engine is old, the parachute is old. If I were buying it for my use, I'd upgrade the avionics, engine, parachute, control cable/rods, minimally, figure out what that would cost and then consider whether this particular bird was worth it vis.a.vis the market and my time frame of purchase...
lucky you made it home, i woulda shipped it
I’m with Owen. Couldn’t give me a cirrus for free. 😎
You survived a landing at El Paso! I'm impressed!
Don't wait for problems with the engine to show up, likely while in flight. Put the $100k into the new engine, prop and parachute servicing now, and fly with confidence.
You'd be throwing away an engine that has proven itself over 2500 hours and shows no signs of failure for one that is an unknown commodity, completely unproven. The old one will start putting metal into the filter, or rings will stick and it'll lose compression, something like that. That's when you overhaul the engine. Then you fly behind a new engine for ~200 hours with your rear end slightly puckered up because "who knows?"
You watch it closely, with a borescope and all of that, but you don't throw it away.
@@mattj65816 Never thrown away, the old one is a core trade-in. And the new one isn't an "unknown commodity, completely unproven". That's ridiculous, it's a factory new engine with warranty and tested before delivery and installation. Since when is a factory new engine the riskier proposition over one that's well past TBO?
I'd much rather fly behind this engine that has a proven life span than a new one with zero run time.
Well sir the previous owner of the SR20 "had an ace up his sleeve" with the plane being in current annual inspection.
🌏🇭🇲
I remember doing my 2nd Solo Nav getting slammed by a 50 knt headwind and had to revised my SAR time 3 times.
Hey welcome to Texas. I live about 60 miles north of Odessa. Sorry about the winds but that’s what us Texas pilots have to deal with!
10:44 Rain in SDL?! That's rare.
Next time you're westbound thru TX, instead of ELP for a fuel stop consider KLRU (Las Cruces NM) where you can get some really good food at "Jim Bob's BBQ" located right on the flightline. Been there done that several times.
That "weird" Beluga is what got us to the moon :-)
Get your name on the list for a Deltahawk engine when they are available. Perfect for SR 20, Jet fuel baby!!!
Continentals have a solid bottom end - they don’t eat cams like Lycomings.. Has it been topped - might get away with just putting some cylinders on it and continuing..
TBO is just an indication. Monitor pressure. Lean. Always. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it
10:17
Oooohh, a Super Guppy,
I’d personally say a 7/10 rarity😍
(The new and updated Airbus Beluga is its replacement)
$112K as is, yes. Great find !!!
There are lots of perfectly safe aircraft out there with engines running "on condition" past their TBO.
Being that close to the Super Guppy in El Paso is wild isn’t it? When I was a kid that thing used to fly over my house next to NASA all the time. I was getting gas at ELP a few years ago in my Mooney and my friends were laughing at me getting so excited seeing it up close!
I'd start shopping for a zero time engine since the prices won't drop. Well bought though!
Oh yeah...I would have jumped on that smoking deal in a heart beat...I love those SR20....!!!
Life is a risk..sometimes you take that risk and it pays off. You guys did great with this one! Keep it up...
The football field next odessa airport. Was the field on Friday night lights, with Tim Mcgraw.
You guys are really fun and interesting to watch.
I'm A&P I think you got a good deal, sure it might need an over haul later until then have fun and keep and eye on the engine oil consumption and change it regularly . later
Your "Beluga" is actually a "Super Guppy", purpose built to carry pieces of the Apollo rocket parts. Its origins were as a B29 bomber.
nope origin was a Boeing 377 Stratocruiser
@@TheDreamlineGT I stand corrected, sort of. All were derived from the B-29, and some b377's started as B29's.
I think it was a pretty good buy.
looks like DeltaHawk has a TD Jet-A burning engine for this plane.😊
Great stuff .. Owen he’s is good at what he does 👍
Sometimes you can do your homework, but an element of risk is always there! Like you mentioned, to get a great deal done fast, you need to act on it! It's not your first plane, so you know you need Deeper than average pockets to maintain something like this! Life gives us chances, if you never take a chance, you don't really have a Life! 🚗 🛫 👍
Legit business practice: buy cheep with cash, improve it, and get the value out of it as use or capital gains
Good showmanship!
Keep your equity turning over.
And propose to Sasha already... sheesh
The only thing that would have given me pause is that if the engine does go south on you soon, the engine overhaul world is a disaster right now. Long wait times, supply problems, high costs. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you!
It sounds like a great little plane and good value for what it offers. Hope ya have heaps of fun flying it.
10:16 Thats funny, thats the exact same super guppy that was at oshkosh this year. Its flown by nasa specifically to be able to carry outsized cargo that wont fit on any other plane in the world
Woah! Small world
I don't think you can wait 2 or 3 years for an engine. But once both of those are done it should be closer to top dollar.
Would you ever consider getting an experimental?
Keep the videos coming y’all I love the content let’s see some more of the bonanza you and your team just rebuilt she’s a beautiful bird 🦅
I saw this plane in your latest video on the Zodiac and it is STILL grounded because of the parachute! These things add weight and about $3k per year in maintenance costs. Sounds good on paper, but not in reality.
The look on Jeff's face when he was aked the get the IFR clearance.😂😂😂😂 I know the feeling!! I remember my reading back my first IFR clearance with ny instructor...u talkin crazy butterflies in the stomach! We were at a airport where the controllers were known for grilling pilots for long or improper two way communications!! It was tons of fun anyway!!
You will have $178,622 in it after the parachute and the reman engine.. thats not counting labor to R and R the engine, get it passed an annual. and you will have a nice low time airframe with a 0 hour engine.. Good buy if they are selling for $179
I literally fly my Cessna out of Austin Executive. Hope you had a good time here in Texas 😎
You made the right choice.
Did you do a pre-buy, the most important thing is the camshaft and those are easy to inspect also if the lifters are spoiled they could be replaced and I think they're only 150 a piece. Continental has a service bolten on that if you follow that you might be able to get another thousand hours out of the engine. TBO is only a recommendation it's not required under part 91.
Great video as always
"practicing my first ever radio call"
Has Bose A20s...
Hurray ….long time no see …hi Christian 😍
How much is an engine replacement for this aircraft??
every day of the week!
I flew to San Antonio in a Mooney 252 right along the Mexico Border, There was a radar balloon on a cable at 15,000 feet. It was marked on a chart. I just wondered if it was still there.
That's NASA's Super Guppy. Itvwas developed from the B-50 which was based on the B-29.
The parachute is idiotic but that’s Cirrus. It shouldn’t be mandatory unless there’s a threat to safety by rendering it inoperable after a certain time. I’m not knocking the safety aspect of having a parachute, but what an added cost to ownership. That said, I enjoyed this and look forward to more. Good luck on doing what’s necessary. I hope you’re able to flip it for a good profit. Or use it as a trainer as you said. I have to ask, because I’m new to your channel, why are you not a pilot? Clearly you get this question a lot and you can point me to a video that explains it, but why are you an aviation and not a mechanic or pilot? Just RUclips creator?
Also, it is not fair to compare prices to a 172. Until they are similar hours (engine) of course. You’re about to put $50,000 or more into this plane. I’m looking to buy a 1976, 177 for a little more than your purchase price but it’s a brand new engine and propeller. But I guess this will always be the Ford versus Chevy, Xbox, versus PlayStation, of the aviation world lol. Looking forward to more content!
The chute and repack interval is part of the certification
Traps for young players with airplanes; take sellers details at face value & not doing a pre buy ( unless you can do it yourself).
Had many smiling sellers trying to polish a turd in front of my eyes.
Your past TBO engine may well put a piston through your cowl or windscreen at anytime, that will cost you dearly.
As far as cheap rebuilds, there aren’t any, period. Only lowball estimates that always blow out.
You will also need to look at the avionics upgrade if you don't mind. Those 430s don't look like WAAS and six-pack? really? Garmin won't even upgrade those anymore. S-Tec 55X A/P was mostly standard for Cirrus. We see many problems with Servos and connecting hardware failing in those early A/Ps units. Many are removing everything and upgrading to IFD stack or GTN package systems. But that will be the last thing after Engine and Parachute. Hint, reduce time in the shop and find a place that is a Maintenance and Avionics shop and have everything done simultaneously.
you did it right
I think you got a great deal.
I think it was a great buy at that price!!! You did good
Can you do a video regarding Mike Patey’s video regarding his engine loss? He is an awesome person for the Aviation community! IMHO this was a Scary situation to be in!!
I am interested in you tracking the various fuel costs across the country. Any chance you can talk about the landing fees at these airports ? Stay passionate and true. Hello from London, UK : - )
Learning about airplanes.....
100% I would have bought it. Do the engine and CAPS…you looking at great ROI.
Well done guys! We office at KSDL….Would be great to meet sometime and discuss “Birds & Hangars”…..
That was the guppy. NASAs plane for the Apollo rockets
Smart move dude. Great deal
That's not a Beluga, that's a Super Guppy.
Pardon my ignorance, but is a parachute necessary? Since it is to be used as a "training" aircraft doesn't that work against student pilots. The point is to learn how to fly safely using AQP, ( Ptobable Cause. Dan Grider), building a knowledge base, and not just to the point of knowing when to throw out the chute. What are the numbers of Cirrus fatals with the chute? Is this a safe way to save a ship load of $$,$$$ on the used market? Thank you.
It is a requirement for possible spin recovery. It was certified with the CAPS chute, it is required equipment.