I have personally found that warzone is the only mode where underbarrel attachments for assault rifles come clutch. Since I am always using heart beat sensors, I have underbarrel smoke launchers on my rifles so that I can give my team smokes whenever we're in a pinch. It's especially clutch when you find an ammunitions box, as those can give you up to 7 smokes for a single person's rifle!
Have you tried the deputy underbarrel? In cqb or in a house it can save ur ass if someone tries to rush u point blank. The range is questionable tho, but up close it wrecks 😁
I've considered all the underbarrel weapon attachments as kinda trashy cuz what you really want is recoil reduction. After reading this i might consider trying them out lmao
well, I feel like ppl, including me, are using archangel on Grau mainly for even better iron sights than nexus offers (thinner and more elevated, which provides better visibility in mid-range fights)
The only reason to pick archangel over nexus is solely for the iron sight. Other than that you are making it harder for yourself as most lethal gunfights are close range. With ads speed that slow with archangel you are probably gunna lose regardless of how highly visible the iron sights are. I changed to nexus recently.
Ajhar Miah except you shouldn’t run the grau for close range so you kit your grau for medium semi long range and akimbo 357 for close. Mp7 and m4 both better close than grau. No reason to run grau close range
Forrest Patterson I think connection latency plays a huge role in this. For me, there’s only one fundamental theory of the cod universe: shoot first die first.
Sureeee.......I use a PS4 with shit internet been dropped multiple times yet I don’t have any problem with headshots you probably were just going against a lag switcher
I play good not to flex i have 5 year expierience in COD but like ive been dealing with the internet so bad its like choopy when u run forwards j go back where u were
Everyone sleeps on the Kilo 141... and I love that, rarely see anyone else using it. Feels like "my" gun. Whisper barrel->commando grip->50 rnd mag->rubber grip->canted hybrid= balanced BEAST
I've tested every "laser" weapon today (kilo, m13 and mp7) and kilo has hands down lowest recoil in game, although iron sights are a bit thicker than m13 or grau and I don't want to "waste" slot for optics
Kilo is even more laser than m13 but its base movement and ads stats are a lot slower than the rest of ARs so when you kit it for long range you are a very clumsy slow fighter, as much as if you had a LMG. Grau with Nexus barrel is probably the most versatile AR. That's why I don't use Kilo anymore.
@@tomorpedreiro3032 It's the accuracy the Kilo has that seperates it for longer ranges. Plus at range, it has a faster TTK than the M13 and RAM-7. Don't gwt me wrong the ram is amazing and my favourite weapon in multiplayer 6v6 but it struggles at ranges comapred to the kilo
It doesn't make sense, hes taking the two longest ranged ars in the game with the best potential for low recoil long range beaming, and he puts weird middling attachments on them that aren't good for range, and still aren't that good for close range.
Sneaky Ace, not including RPGs in the "Best Loadouts" video to try to reduce the number of RPGs he runs into. The current meta for this game is Amped RPGs for everyone in your squad, and buying munitions boxes to keep restocking everyone on more RPGs. It's dumb, I hate it, but that is the meta. 4 people * 7 RPGs each = 28 RPGs blasting off, nothing stands a chance. EOD is a joke vs this meta.
every gun without a stock just looks disgusting. plus i get immersed so i cant convince myself that an operator would have no stock on a full auto assault rifle
It doesn't bother me visually, but the increased recoil does, so I won't use no stock on any weapon, I don't care about those minor benefits of faster movement or ads
Stevottty never said it was bro. i just like to get immersed in whatever world im in. and having no stock makes no sense to me. but however u decide to play i wont judge im just giving my opinion
Personally, for the MP7 and Grau, I can't sacrifice recoil control for mobility I get with No Stock. Have you tried running the Tac Laser on those class setups rather than No Stock? You might find they absolutely beam at long range.
Weird loadout that I started using when Drift0r recommended it a couple days ago. Crossbow,Ar build, in Warzone there is only one weapon that will straight up kill at full armor and that is the crossbow with explosive bolts. It's hard to use but it's super easy to push a squad when one of their members instantly dies and you can still deal damage with your ar (I use either Grau or 5.56 AUG) I run cold blooded, overkill, and amped.
Brobuscus115 I LOVE the crossbow in warzone. I will rarely enter a game without it now. I don’t care about picking people off at ranges with snipers as that generally is not that helpful to winning the game. But the crossbow is the best weapon for killing people at medium ranges that may pose an actual threat. I run this with ghost and then just get a suppressed looted weapon as my secondary and have had the most success with it among any class I’ve chosen
Yeah two body shots but if you aim for the head they’re gone, the model finishes in one close range still, like I said get enemy attention and let them come to you and line up crosshairs
As I said in other comment, those guns that he recommended are being used for about a month by majority of people. Everyone knows for quite some time that those guns are good
Personally I like rocking the Grau + Snakeshot akimbo’s and my CQB weapon. And then I can get ghost early. Personally, I find having ghost earlier gives a massive advantage as people expect it way less, so you’re able to surprise people way more often
I've actually found the Kilo 141 is great with proper attachments. A fair bit of visual recoil, but the actual recoil is sooo controllable. Plus the damage is better than some ARs. I guess it's probably just a different M4, but the option of a huge magazine is pretty cool. Would be interested in seeing you revisit the Kilo.
Oden, Mp5... you have to try!! The Oden is, with the right attachments and a bit practice to handle the recoil, just op... its just hard to level this gun up :)
oden is the first gun i maxed but it is basicly not good at all that gun is not realistic that recoil is impossible to control at long range no matter what attachment you have or what skill level u are and in close range slow ads, if u really like oden i suggest rpk because it is basicly better at everything, and well mp5 is just favorite gun i love it
@@dominikoberle1110 Colossus Suppressor, Oden Factory 810mm, Merc Foregrip, VLK 3.0x Optic. Final attachment should be something to increase your ADS. This makes it a monster at 50-200 meters. I'll fight anyone that's running or isn't using a sniper rifle up to 300 meters. For my secondary I run Akimbo or MP7. I always take Ghost if I'm Akimbo or Overkill for the MP7 and Amped. First set of perks are personal preference between EOD and Cold Blooded. At 50-100 meters you can burst anyone standing still though, but you have to tap fire like it's a DMR outside of 100 meters. Its limb damage is nutty, so it really doesn't matter where you're hitting them.
I personally use the 300 BLKOUT rounds from a strategic standpoint for both Warzone and Multiplayer. The “No Enemy Skulls” + “No Visible Tracers” makes the M13 an amazing flank route weapon in MP. It disadvantages people who heavily rely on death skulls, like snipers or when they’re trying to find enemy players. Having no visible tracers also helps on limiting the amount of ways people can find you, as they won’t see lines of bullets coming from your position. In Warzone, it’s the same concept, if i can separately kill someone away from the group, the enemy team is going to have a hard time finding me if they can’t see any bullet tracer marks flying through the air and they can’t find their team ate’s death skull.
Question then, do you use something like an SMG+FAL, or FAL as primary with a sniper/rpg as second At one point I was using MP7 + FAL and I enjoyed using it but found I couldnt do anything at long range besides being annoying and chipping people
PC player 2.40 K/D ~2500 kills Aggressive play style: M4- Mono Supressor, Ranger grip, VLK 3.0 sight, 60 rounds, stippled grip. (Close/mid range) Kar 98K- Longest barrel, Sniper scope, ADS stock, Tac Laser, Focus (All ranges) Close to mid range the M4 is great but anything farther I just quickscope using the Kar. It 1 shots very often in the head. Focus allows you to hit the headshot easier despite people spraying. People like to use m4’s with longer barrels and they are good but at that longer range a good player with a Kar will pick you off. Drop 10-20 kills often. I’m bored and thought i’d share. GG
Think the XRK Void grip is a better option than no stock for the Grau imo. Other than that, its a great setup. edit: would also use skeleton stock instead of no stock for the m13
I think the reason he is using no stock on the M13 is for the faster movement speed. The skeleton stock got a nerf in season 1 or 2 that completely eliminates it's boost to movement speed so I'm assuming that is why he's using no stock instead but it is still a very good attachment that doesn't punish your recoil
Matthew F m13 regardless if attachments has very low recoil you probably just suck at controlling it tho i dont like this specific setup ace uses either
The RAM-7 and M13 are my go-to's for now. Both are like a laser when using the right attatchments. The RAM has a lower fire-rate, but more damage, the M13 is the other way around. When my aim isn't too good for the day I stick with the M13 to get more bullets down range quickly, if I'm accurate I like the RAM-7 to absolutely anniahlate targets.
Ulrich Esser Yeah they need to work on their skilled base match making but hackers will be there but they will be fighting against each other if the system does its job.
@@lukewarmwater6713 I think the SBMM system might be limited. Like, above a certain K/D or W/L you get to the maximum difficulty of SBMM. Say that 'limit' is 5.0 KD, everyone with a 5.0 KD or higher is matched against each other. Even hackers with their 100.0 KD. My KD is only around 1.0, so I've barely encountered any hackers luckily. But honestly they should just go back to matching players based on ping and get a decent hacking detection going...
I actually use the exact same Grau and MP7 builds and have been having a lot of success with those. However, my secondary on the Grau loadout is a kitted crossbow. I watched a video by Driftor breaking down how versatile and useful the crossbow is in warzone and a day after putting it in my loadout I shot someone out of a heli, so it is quite a useful weapon. Would love to see a video with your thoughts on the crossbow in Warzone!
I got Question how do enemy just run over clay mores and proximity mines and not set them off??? They don't stop and hack them they just run right over them and nothing happens.
The Ram-7 just wins fights easily. It has the fastest TTK and really good attachments. XRK Ranger barrel, Monolithic suppressor, 50 round mags, Stippled grip tape, and the XRK Close quaters stock
1:22 THANK YOU! I'm sick of people spreading lies and promoting the gun as if it's even on par with the m4 or the ram 7. It's not a competition in terms of ttk
I use almost those exact last two classes but hadn't tried the Grau yet. The only difference with the M13 is using stippled grip instead of the site and with the MP7 Stippled instead of the foregrip.
The 'no stock' attachment is OP in my opinion. The downsides are easily compensated for by 1 or 2 other attachments. Then all you're left with is top tier speed, ADS speed and accuracy in a gun that was already fast and super accurate.
I started using an M4 with SOCOM rounds as a DMR and had a lot of success with it instead of the snipers, which I am not as comfortable with. That or the FAL is my go to for long range, and then I use the AUG 5.56 almost exclusively as a secondary.
Yes! Fal for me is something ive run since drop but socom rounds are quite good! You just have to be selective about who you engage because of mag size...but the reload is very quick. Its still an M4 👍
SOCOM is insane in the right situation but honestly in quads and even trios at times it's just simply putting you at a disadvantage. Even if Gid graced you with perfect accuracy there is just no way to counter multiple enemies at once. I've learned that if you still want to use it in theas games modes sleight of hand is a MUST.
No Stock really needs a big recoil and stability nerf, it's easily the most overperforming element of the meta right now. Definitely shouldn't be the go-to attachment for the mode with the longest average engagement ranges in the game.
Is it? RUclipsrs\streamers i watch on PC(CoD isn't their main, they just playing it because BF and PUBG are kinda dead) never ever use it. I tried to use it on several guns in normal MP and unless it's MP7 or something like RPK or super short 5.45 AK conversion, i cannot handle the recoil.
He says he gets two load outs. First with overkill to get the sniper you want decked out how you want it. Then later another loadout to get ghost, and he just picks the guns from the first load out back up
Hey Ace, it would be much better to use the skeleton stock on the M13. The skeleton stock actually gives better stat boosts when it comes to movement speed and ads speed. It also comes with less downsides
@@cooliusmaximus5802 i used to use the aug alot, i find the mp7's ads kills enemies much faster than I did with the aug. Aug is still good but i like mp7 best. Really enjoying the m13 right now though. Great for those mid range engagements.
M13 is an absolute beast at 50-150m range but only with last barrel and monolithic... The setup you showed is more suited for multiplayer.. I use longest range possible m13 paired with renetti akimbo and ghost
For a couple of days playing trios (I have 3kd) all I've seen is at least 1 or 2 guys in a team running akimbo snakeshots, which is starting to get really frustrating. They have to get nerfed somehow, too many situations where you have zero chance against them with sniper/AR/SMG loadouts.
Thank jackfrags for that shit. Clickbait title, fancy thumbnail, telling (at this point) 900k+ people how fucking broken that secondary is. Ever since the vid released ppl have constantly been camping with that thing.. normally they'd just get obliterated with this shitty playstyle, if it wasn't for that broken snakeshot..
Over the past week or so it’s gotten really bad. Basically everyone has at least one squad member running it. At this point if you don’t have someone running it in your squad you’re at a disadvantage
@@nex4613 you had to play in a low skilled lobbies then before. Snakeshot was meta way before jackfrag vid in high skill lobbies. Hes a console player with crossplay off so his stats in warzone kinda dont matter, hes just probably just getting rolled by people who play faster/more aggro and console stupid aimassist up close just does the work (dont get me wrong, imo mnk is still way better, but sometimes its just silly to see how much less ur skill matter on gamepad)
I believe those classes are great! However I would change out the over kill with the last two class because; 1. You’ll give out your location because in my experience everyone likes to spam UAV in warzone. 2. There’s tons of snipers you can pick up from “fresh loot” aka from people you merked lol
No stock has been nerfed so you should replace no stock with stippy or tac laser (this doesn't apply to the mp7 because it doesn't have any recoil, also you should swap commando for merc on the mp7), also more and more people are using c4's and rpg's and less people are using thermals so you're better off using Eod instead of cold blooded
I also love the m13 in warzone. One of my favorites beside the grau. The oden should be a killer gun but everytime I wanted to test this gun I died so I can't say if oden is good or not
I use the AX-50 and that MP13 and the perks, Except, instead of cold-blooded, use double-time so that you can increase your speed while maintaining your stealth as you crouch rush players with the MP13. And instead of Amped, use Hardline to conserve more cash, as it saves you 25% in the Store. So I personally would use Double-time, Overkill, and Hardline.
Yoo Ace. I like these classes for trying hard. Can you make a video recommending some fun class off the usual meta. I am bored of using the same couple of class. But I get pooped on using anything off meta.
OG Prangster crossbow with fury bolts, 200lb arm, sleight of hand, speed grip, red dot. You’ll never use a regular gun again it’s so good. Try using it in multiplayer first though to get a grasp for travel time and bolt drop (there is not as much drop as you think). This way when you go into warzone you won’t miss all the time and think that it’s bad even though it’s really good
My meme loadout is FAL -VLK sight -marksman barrel -no stock -30 round mag -deputy underbarrel(its good, try it) Secondary is rinetti akimbos burst Eod, restock with smokes and thermite....trust me it will save your ass either by giving you good cover with smokes or taking out vehicles or even blocking doorways with thermites plus bedding able to deal with riot shielders which can be dicy! As well as restocking in less than a minute! Third perk is tune up for faster revives or amped...least meta class that ive won 2 games with. Ive won most my games with m13 but I get you it gets old using the same class 😉👍
My Grau setup is the same as yours, except I replaced the Commando Grip (I don't need that extra recoil stabilization) with an Optic sight. I use it for Warzone, Ground War and large MP maps.
I'd recommend ghost instead of overkill, run 2 ghost classes with the 2 guns you want instead of overkilling your first class and ghosting the second. This way you have ghost all the time.
The RAM7 is the best WZ gun by a mile! It’s like the lover child of the m13 and AK. Fast TTK, low recoil, mobile, 50 round mag option, nice iron sights
ram 7 is really good used it a lot myself but it does lack range where the grau dominates while m4 is the all rounder. personally i like to run grau and then if i manage to get a second loudout drop will get mp7 as well. grau for distances mp7 will dominate majority of players when it gets to the finishing circles as they will have ar's for close combat still
I love using the Oden and ak-47, but the sad part is that in order to compete for high kill games you have to use the MP7, Grau, or M4 (especially if you play with randoms) these other weapons just don't compete. It's even worse since the servers are doo-dooo if I am using the oden and one of my shots don't register, I'll loose a lot of close range fights because of it. I only get like 13-15kills with the oden, but when I want to try for 20+ games I have too use the Meta weapons or else I am at a extreme disadvantage and in my opinion I hate them, they're so boring to use, not to mention easy as well, pick up and its Literally Laser beams with high fire rates. I Need Duos already...... Solo's is the only mode I can actually use the non-meta weapons since I am confident in my 1v1s, but SOLOS is just filled with hackers and slow camper players .....
solo is unplayable I don't know why they haven't added duos yet quads is annoying because of the time to kill and because of the 4 man premade teams talking on coms that you can't play quads with Randoms
That’s crazy that you’re complaining because a gun is too easy to use lol if you find a gun that is too easy to use then you should be using that gun! I have been going around through all kinds of different assault rifles and I can confidently say that I am no where near as good with the M4 than I am with the Ram7. If I was put into the exact same circumstances with both guns I would get about 20 kills with the Ram but only end up getting 13-15 with the M4 so I use the Ram because it is “easier” for me to use than the M4 lol be proud of the gun you choose to use and don’t think of it as too easy to get kills with lol
@@jamesadkinsiii7925 pretty sure you missed the point tho.. He's saying that using the Meta weapons are boring and in order to compete you basically have to use these boring weapons with no recoil I have died so many times to a shitty player using a meta weapon and when I check the killcam he killed me by shooting my legs with 10rounds and since im not using mp7 my 4shots in the chest leave him at 1hp its annoying that skillesss players can kill much more skilled players with ease there is LITERALLY NO SKILL CAP
Rick shuckz you have plenty of options when it comes to weapons that do more dps that the “meta” weapons lol use the FAL or Ram instead of the Grau/M4 and you will be doing more DPS. The skill gap all comes into play in positioning and knowing when to shoot at other teams. Gun fights of course have skill gap in them because if you’re using a weapon that does more dps that the “meta” weapons then if you don’t kill the guy it’s because they either saw you first or because you missed your shots lol
@@jamesadkinsiii7925 dude you're such an incompetent idiot lol you just contradicted yourself. What you commented made no sense. First you said that there is of course "skill gap " in gun fights then you said if you don't kill the guy with the meta weapon its because they saw you first? or don't land shots? Dude you make no sense. That's the exact reason why noobs and skilless players can pick up any of those weapons and win Firefights.... You shouldn't have to loose a fight because a noob saw you first camping with a skilless weapon and even though you saw him late you're Head shot precision shots don't matter..... Are you illiterate as well? You just proved our point. That it requires no Skill.. And you must be an idiot because the RAM7 is part of the Meta Weapons, its literally a better version of the M4. Dumbass lol Just stop replying you're embarrassing yourself
I stick with the archangel, because I like it's sights better, and ads speed isn't too much of an inconvenience, since I ads walk quite a bit. Akimbo snakeshot for close quarters.
I'm not a good sniper by any means, so for my secondary I actually use akimbo burst Renettis with 5mW Laser, 27 Round Mags, and Lightweight Trigger with Ghost instead of Overkill. They go hard in CQB. Also, Double Time is a huge crutch for me, and I don't encounter that many RPGs. Finally I use Tracker on every class. It's super key in late game situations when you're ratting out the last couple people. Besides that, your Grau and MP7 setups are literally the same as mine. Great video Ace! :)
that weapon is no joke, great range right behind Grau (better than M4 and Ram, ttk only slightly lower) and recoil better than m13 and mp7... compared to these two it's a REAL laser
The kilo is decent, not great. It doesn’t really fill the accurate role or the high dps role. People pick the M13 and Grau for range and accuracy and people pick the m4 and RAM for dps. The kilo isn’t needed.
@@m4TT5 idc what "ppl pick", how is kilo worse than m13? better range, almost same dps, better attachments (wisper barrel increases your range AND silences at once = 1 extra slot for ads improvement), great range and BEST recoil, even without many attachments like the longest barrel, that many guns require to be "lasers"... simply underrated, but ok, they all can play with m4 that has upredictable side to side bounces xD
@@m4TT5 what kind of fact is that? i've spent some decent ammount of time on custom matches trying out recoil pattern and recoil control for all of these guns and nothing beats kilo, maybe you should check yourself? Grau has great ironshights but bounces more to the sides than other m13 and kilo... m13 has comparable recoil control to kilo, but only with the longest barrel, while kilo remains accurate even with shorter barrel idk, I guess ppl have some troubles to admit it's a great weapon cause... i have no idea why, maybe cause the won't try out anything that isn't tagged as "BeSt WEaPoN evEr" by mainstream youtubers It's in the middle of the 5.56 rifles stack in every category and if someone says it has worse recoil than m13, grau, ram or m4 I would recommend to wear glasses
Ace, I think it makes more sense to just have 2 Ghost classes instead of the first one being with Overkill. Because then you have Ghost immediately and when you're looting your 2nd drop you still can pick a Sniper class for instance and then swap the pistol with the primary gun from the class before. In my opinion having Ghost as soon as possible is more valuable than having both primary weapons at the start. Just a thought and the way I do it...
Benikaya kind of depends how your squad performs too ya know? If you’re playing with a weak squad you probably want ghost. But who cares if you have a squad that is murdering anyway.
imo the P90 is the gun I’ve had most fun using in warzone. It shreds in close to mid range, but lacks damage in long ranges. Its really accurate tho. To make up for the decreased damage in longer ranges, I equip overkill and pair it up with an M4/M13/Grau. Then I get a ghost loadout and that dub.
M13: Regular Barrel, Monolithic Supressor, Merc fore grip, Monacle Relfex Site, Stippled Grip, and 60 Rd mags. I don't find ADS speed as important in Warzone as I do Multiplayer. Never have any issues ADSing with this setup and it straight lasers.
@@nex4613 PKM: 25.9” Heavy Barrel, Merc thermal hybrid optic, Snatch grip, Monolithic suppressor, 200 round box. Good balance of range and power with manageable ads due to snatch grip with enough ammunition for a prolonged engagement without having to reload. I'll run it with Cold-blooded Ghost and amped for faster weapons swap. As far as a secondary I usually pair it with a decent smg I find before the loadout drop. Its a monster of a gun at medium and long ranges and its won me quite a few engagements and games!
The reason people use the HDR over the AX50 is because it has half the bullet drop of the AX50's heavy tungsten rounds. The only advantage the AX50 has over the HDR is the higher bullet cycle rate, but this is really only useful in closer ranges. The HDR is the king of long range combat overall.
Hey love your vids, but ive been playing quite a bit lately and i feel like I've improved quite a bit but i cant really tell where i place compared to other players like i have a 1.22 kd but with skill based match making idk how to tell if I'm actually good or a potato in the veggie aisle, how do i know where i stand?
1.22 kd? Mine is around 1.28 and I'm top 3% according to CoD stats tracker. You probably just got bumped into that bracket of players that know what the heck they're doing in the game. Keep at it. We need more teammates like you.
Hello and thank you very much for your amazing content. Why do you always choose No Stock over Strippled Pistol Grip? Its ADS is the same, however grip offers Sprint To Fire speed.
Dude if you don’t mind with the Grau you could change the ax50 with aug with 60 round mags also change the heartbeat sensor for drum so I can live longer in the gas
stas Ž. Take a break from being a greasy boi, sbmm will drag you back to lobbies where you can have fun again, and eventually you’ll be getting lobbies that will be a spot where you can enjoy the game again, you might have to play serious some of the time and muck around other times to get around the whole mess that sbmm is though
@@andrewmoore7022 I don't give 2 shits about my k/d I can't mess around bicouse if I do, I get dropshoted across the map or get spawn killed for half a mach bicouse my team seams to be doing nothing like I have a k/d 0.93 wich is not that good. I get some serius swets in the enemie team but my team seems to do nothing. What I'm saing here is If I don't do the objective and don't get 50 kills nobody in my team will so the map get's filled with campers and some dude with out a Life spawn kills us and we can't do shit.
@@stas7378 I hear you loud and clear, homie. Want to know what I do? If my team doesnt have some sort of advantage , or I see that we're not fighting for the objective, after the first minute of the match, I accept that im gonna take an L because the team is trash. After that, I stop playing the objective, hold down a section of the map and basically try to make it so that the enemy team cant kill me or come through my side. It brings in a lot more rage from them. They'll call you trash and all that, though the leaderboard says otherwise, and believe me, you'll feel that stress of trying to carry deadweight to a dub gone. You saw that L coming earlier than anybody, all you can do is make the game less enjoyable to the enemy team because they cant kill you off the objective none is helping with. Of course, in a perfect world, teammates jump the objective and call out enemy whereabouts. If you know you can win your own gunfights, streak the enemy team and have them wondering wtf is going on like Caveman Spongebob.
@@stas7378 nahh you probably just garbage.. i carry my team most of the time and get 40+ kills every game without any headphones and my team does alright cuz im the one killing everyone and my teammates are the ones who spawntrap the enemies.. *just get better my g*
I've got another one that's a PKM kitted for low recoil, rpg for vehicles, EOD, Restock, and Amped, claymores and snapshot grenades. It's my bait class. Other teammates have ghost, post up in a building in one of the final circles, claymores are warnings, then I snapshot to paint them. Will only grab this one on the 2nd free drop, if the last circle is tightening on a building. Otherwise it's overkill ax50+mp7, or grau+snakeshot, both with c4 and heartbeat sensor. Also both with cold blooded and amped, grau has ghost.
Joseph Horton I was trying my hardest to do it. But it’s almost impossible. I had to suck it up and download the multiplayer. It’s the fastest way to do it.
Play the game mode shoot the ship and wait till the map is shipment the mode is the second to last mode under quick play. Trust me you will get the gun in 2 games. 👍
I really believe the ak47 is the best weapon in warzone with the 545 conversion kit. If you hit your shots you will not lose gunfights at close to medium ranges. Rarely do I promise things and I PROMISE THIS
On the mp7 I suggest taking off the foregrip and putting in stippled grip tape..makes it easier to get the advantage in cqc and I think the recoil is still really easy to control..I can outgun m4s and graus at mid range very effectively
I feel oden will be widely used here soon..the quickest killing gun out, if you can handle the ADS / Fire Rate. Truly an underrated gun, cant wait to try the m13 setup
I have played with almost all types of loadouts, by cod pros or clickbait RUclipsrs, and this is by far the most OP load out. Perks- EOD(or CB) Ghost Amped W1: Grau (mono, Archangel, commando, 50 mag, ftac rubber) W2: akimbo. 357 snakeshots HB sensor, C4 I manage around a 7% win rate in solos with this (even tho I suck) Why is this OP? This makes the Grau a laser which is good for long-med range and can easily take down snipers in the open, while the akimbo magnums just MELT any person in close range. Feel free to steal :)
The only reason I use the archangel barrel over the nexus barrel is that the iron sights are a cleaner for long range. Don’t get me wrong they are both good, but that thin front post on the archangel is so good at range
Best attachments for WarZone 1. Monolithic suppressor 2. Longest barrel 3. 50-60 round mag 4. Commando 5. Stippled, tac laser, no stock or red dot Pair it up with a knife, pistol/s, or RPG C4 and Smokes or heartbeat sensor
The grau has to be the most overrated gun in this game... Yeah it's good but it literally has no place in the game. The M13 has a faster time to kill and a faster fire rate than it so it's better in close range and it also has low recoil so it's also good for medium and long range. People say it's good for challenging sniper range but why would you do that when it has a slow time to kill...I mean a sniper could just one shot you from that range. Honestly the gun is just a slower TTK and more mobile Kilo 141. why would you use it?
For the Focus perk, how would you rate the effectiveness of its ability to keep your aim on target? Honestly I've used it a couple times but I'm really not sure how much of a difference it makes. I don't think I've even utilized it much considering I'm usually getting killed up close getting side blinded most of the time
Universal aspects to Ace’s loadouts:
-AX-50
Mono Suppressor, Singuard Arms Pro Barrel Tac Laser, Singuard Arms Assassin Stock, Focus
-Overkill
-C4/Heartbeat Sensor
Loadout 1:
-Grau 5.56
Mono Suppressor, Nexus Barrel, No Stock, Commando Foregrip, 60 round Mags
-Cold Blooded, Amped
Loadout 2
-MP7
Monolithic Suppressor, FSS Strike Barrel, No Stock, Commando Foregrip, 60 Round Mags
-EOD + Tracker
Loadout 3
-M13
Tempus Cyclone, Solozero Optics Mini Reflex, No Stock, Merc Foregrip, 60 Round Mags
-Cold Blooded, Amped
Thanks for building such a helpful comment Bob!
Dane G. Mate dont listen these attachments suckkkj
How u use ax with that stock instead of stippled?
So he doesn’t have the AUG in any of the class setups despite recommending it as the ‘best’ gun in WZ ?
@@SupermanOG that thing has more recoil than ak hard af to use
I have personally found that warzone is the only mode where underbarrel attachments for assault rifles come clutch. Since I am always using heart beat sensors, I have underbarrel smoke launchers on my rifles so that I can give my team smokes whenever we're in a pinch. It's especially clutch when you find an ammunitions box, as those can give you up to 7 smokes for a single person's rifle!
That’s awesome never heard of this
Have you tried the deputy underbarrel? In cqb or in a house it can save ur ass if someone tries to rush u point blank. The range is questionable tho, but up close it wrecks 😁
I've considered all the underbarrel weapon attachments as kinda trashy cuz what you really want is recoil reduction. After reading this i might consider trying them out lmao
@@LordVader69420 yes! Deputy gave me a triple wipe once with only one mag...its not weak at all
An Obese Diabetic Potato Named Joe. I’ve never thought of that... great idea
I was wondering if there's any difference in time of execution in finishing moves
Stefano X some are definitely
longer than others
They are all 4 seconds execept for the the default SAS guy that has 3 seconds
They are just a waste of time and you can get killed
Bing Bong exactly. I tell my brother this constantly and he’s batting maybe a 50% with surviving after an execution.
there is one where the player gets hit by a pan and they instantly die, the execution is also really short
well, I feel like ppl, including me, are using archangel on Grau mainly for even better iron sights than nexus offers (thinner and more elevated, which provides better visibility in mid-range fights)
Also archangel has better range.. actually I preferred nexus sight until I got used to the archangel one.
Well the archangel slows u by a thicc 4%, so nexus isn't bad
The only reason to pick archangel over nexus is solely for the iron sight. Other than that you are making it harder for yourself as most lethal gunfights are close range. With ads speed that slow with archangel you are probably gunna lose regardless of how highly visible the iron sights are. I changed to nexus recently.
Ajhar Miah except you shouldn’t run the grau for close range so you kit your grau for medium semi long range and akimbo 357 for close. Mp7 and m4 both better close than grau. No reason to run grau close range
@@Artibeast this. Grau with archangel every day. Best iron sights in the game.
Ace: fires at head and actually downs or breaks armor
Me: fires at head and I go down
Forrest Patterson I think connection latency plays a huge role in this. For me, there’s only one fundamental theory of the cod universe: shoot first die first.
@@michaelSkUu I'll get headshot markers but it'll act like I hit the leg or arm damage wise, its frustrating to say the least.
Sureeee.......I use a PS4 with shit internet been dropped multiple times yet I don’t have any problem with headshots you probably were just going against a lag switcher
I play good not to flex i have 5 year expierience in COD but like ive been dealing with the internet so bad its like choopy when u run forwards j go back where u were
@DsM Trix i shoot enemy like 20 times nothing happens after 2 seconds of freezing ingame i get knocked
Everyone sleeps on the Kilo 141... and I love that, rarely see anyone else using it. Feels like "my" gun.
Whisper barrel->commando grip->50 rnd mag->rubber grip->canted hybrid= balanced BEAST
I've tested every "laser" weapon today (kilo, m13 and mp7) and kilo has hands down lowest recoil in game, although iron sights are a bit thicker than m13 or grau and I don't want to "waste" slot for optics
every sleeps on killo on purpose lmao its worse than m4, grau and ram, m13 is more friendly.. kilo is just "basic"
Kilo is even more laser than m13 but its base movement and ads stats are a lot slower than the rest of ARs so when you kit it for long range you are a very clumsy slow fighter, as much as if you had a LMG. Grau with Nexus barrel is probably the most versatile AR. That's why I don't use Kilo anymore.
@@tomorpedreiro3032 It's the accuracy the Kilo has that seperates it for longer ranges. Plus at range, it has a faster TTK than the M13 and RAM-7. Don't gwt me wrong the ram is amazing and my favourite weapon in multiplayer 6v6 but it struggles at ranges comapred to the kilo
@@jamiegarth3146 Faster ttk at range than ram7" lmao nah
Stock
xclusive ace: we don't do that here
Emman The Adrian 😂 I need to see comments like that in here discord.gg/th58Ram
Not using a Monolithic Suppressor
Xclusive Ace: We don't do that here
With The Boys quit self promoting
It doesn't make sense, hes taking the two longest ranged ars in the game with the best potential for low recoil long range beaming, and he puts weird middling attachments on them that aren't good for range, and still aren't that good for close range.
Wow, after playing on 230 ping the whole day it's really refreshing looking at your gameplay
Mine's usually 60 ping with 20% packet loss lol
@@balazsh2 i play on 90-120 ping in every game ;/
i live in panama so... i guess there's nothing i can do to lower my ping.
Aramis Villasmil I live in calirfornia and my ping averages around 100, due to SBMM and shit servers
@@Gustinpham use lan cable wired connection is better bug i have wireless i cant spend money 😑
Sneaky Ace, not including RPGs in the "Best Loadouts" video to try to reduce the number of RPGs he runs into.
The current meta for this game is Amped RPGs for everyone in your squad, and buying munitions boxes to keep restocking everyone on more RPGs. It's dumb, I hate it, but that is the meta. 4 people * 7 RPGs each = 28 RPGs blasting off, nothing stands a chance. EOD is a joke vs this meta.
Unfortunately... you are not wrong. I hope they nerf launcher ammo, you shouldn't be able to carry 7 rockets.. maybe like 3 but 7 is a bit much.
Fuck rpg people.. they are lower than dirt that cattle walk on
in Solos people dont even go in vehicles anymore because they are scared of rpgs and c4s, now its akimbo snakeshots
Akimbo snakeshot is the meta rn not rpg at least in my lobbies where players avg 38 head shot pct (sbmm)
The day I run into a 4 man squad all using RPG’s is the day I throw my Xbox out the window
every gun without a stock just looks disgusting. plus i get immersed so i cant convince myself that an operator would have no stock on a full auto assault rifle
i have the same issue man, really bothers me
It doesn't bother me visually, but the increased recoil does, so I won't use no stock on any weapon, I don't care about those minor benefits of faster movement or ads
This isn’t a war simulator lmao
WeaponOfShadowz unpopular opinion: I really like the guns without the stock even if it’s unrealistic
Stevottty never said it was bro. i just like to get immersed in whatever world im in. and having no stock makes no sense to me. but however u decide to play i wont judge im just giving my opinion
Personally, for the MP7 and Grau, I can't sacrifice recoil control for mobility I get with No Stock. Have you tried running the Tac Laser on those class setups rather than No Stock? You might find they absolutely beam at long range.
Both these weapons have virtually no recoil. Especially the mp7. But each to their own
Tac laser makes so many guns viable that hve slow ads. Love the attachment
Tac Laser on MP7 allows me to beam people across the map. Love that attachment.
I dont think the increase in movement speed is worth to odds of missing a shot, and you can get as good of an ads time with the tac
No stock seems to ruin the recoil completely though
Weird loadout that I started using when Drift0r recommended it a couple days ago. Crossbow,Ar build, in Warzone there is only one weapon that will straight up kill at full armor and that is the crossbow with explosive bolts. It's hard to use but it's super easy to push a squad when one of their members instantly dies and you can still deal damage with your ar (I use either Grau or 5.56 AUG) I run cold blooded, overkill, and amped.
Brobuscus115 I LOVE the crossbow in warzone. I will rarely enter a game without it now. I don’t care about picking people off at ranges with snipers as that generally is not that helpful to winning the game. But the crossbow is the best weapon for killing people at medium ranges that may pose an actual threat. I run this with ghost and then just get a suppressed looted weapon as my secondary and have had the most success with it among any class I’ve chosen
Interesting play style, but you realize most shotguns are one shot, I like to make my enimies come to me than boom
Xavier Paibomsai there aren’t any shotguns in the game that one shot a fully armored enemy anymore. They nerfed the model 680 so now it takes 2
Yeah two body shots but if you aim for the head they’re gone, the model finishes in one close range still, like I said get enemy attention and let them come to you and line up crosshairs
Nice Video. Could u bring a vid with your settings: sensivity and etc. ?!
Exo that means there’s more settings to adjust 🗿
I look forward to IW stealth nerfing all of these on Tuesday :D
And Buff the M4 because everyone LOOOOOOVES the M4 Right? Right?
As I said in other comment, those guns that he recommended are being used for about a month by majority of people. Everyone knows for quite some time that those guns are good
Amen, grau with iron sights... So original 🥴
Is it confirmed that certain guns will be getting nerfed or buffed ?
Personally I like rocking the Grau + Snakeshot akimbo’s and my CQB weapon. And then I can get ghost early. Personally, I find having ghost earlier gives a massive advantage as people expect it way less, so you’re able to surprise people way more often
Yeah, u are right
This is very good setup
The RAM-7 is also a very good gun to use in warzone.
Definitely is. It's my go to
Good thing i finally completed the challenge in mp weekend. Lets level up bois!
class setup
@@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073 Eclipse barrel, commando foregrip, 50 round mags, monolithic suppressor, and stippled grip tape
I use the cronen mini, monothic suppresor, ranger barrel, 50 round mags, and the hollow stock
I suck at sniping so I just use Grau and Renetti with Burst mode, letting me use Ghost.
Jeff Neinenstein Burst mode is literally god mode to that pistol
Jeff Neinenstein same class setup here. Works pretty well with a lightweight trigger on the renetti
Same, i use PILA n put on ghost lol
@@svenlow7077 PILA is easily worth for even my friends' reactions to the seemingly random squad wipes
Akimbo renetti is op as well u should try it
I've actually found the Kilo 141 is great with proper attachments. A fair bit of visual recoil, but the actual recoil is sooo controllable. Plus the damage is better than some ARs. I guess it's probably just a different M4, but the option of a huge magazine is pretty cool. Would be interested in seeing you revisit the Kilo.
Oden, Mp5... you have to try!! The Oden is, with the right attachments and a bit practice to handle the recoil, just op... its just hard to level this gun up :)
I'm a fan! Love my Odin. Just gotta know how to ride the bucking bull
One of the first guns I maxed actually. Love it in MP. Find it pretty effective in Warzone too. Basically a sniper and AR in one!
Warzone Oden class Setup?
oden is the first gun i maxed but it is basicly not good at all that gun is not realistic that recoil is impossible to control at long range no matter what attachment you have or what skill level u are and in close range slow ads, if u really like oden i suggest rpk because it is basicly better at everything, and well mp5 is just favorite gun i love it
@@dominikoberle1110 Colossus Suppressor, Oden Factory 810mm, Merc Foregrip, VLK 3.0x Optic. Final attachment should be something to increase your ADS. This makes it a monster at 50-200 meters. I'll fight anyone that's running or isn't using a sniper rifle up to 300 meters. For my secondary I run Akimbo or MP7. I always take Ghost if I'm Akimbo or Overkill for the MP7 and Amped. First set of perks are personal preference between EOD and Cold Blooded. At 50-100 meters you can burst anyone standing still though, but you have to tap fire like it's a DMR outside of 100 meters. Its limb damage is nutty, so it really doesn't matter where you're hitting them.
I personally use the 300 BLKOUT rounds from a strategic standpoint for both Warzone and Multiplayer. The “No Enemy Skulls” + “No Visible Tracers” makes the M13 an amazing flank route weapon in MP. It disadvantages people who heavily rely on death skulls, like snipers or when they’re trying to find enemy players. Having no visible tracers also helps on limiting the amount of ways people can find you, as they won’t see lines of bullets coming from your position. In Warzone, it’s the same concept, if i can separately kill someone away from the group, the enemy team is going to have a hard time finding me if they can’t see any bullet tracer marks flying through the air and they can’t find their team ate’s death skull.
The FAL...Everyone is sleeping on the FAL. Once your aim is good, the FAL is deadly.
Agree. M13 and FAL have always done me good.
I had a kill comm come over when i out gunned a guy with the FAL at close range. "What the hell are you using!!". Lol, i got a good laugh.
Question then, do you use something like an SMG+FAL, or FAL as primary with a sniper/rpg as second
At one point I was using MP7 + FAL and I enjoyed using it but found I couldnt do anything at long range besides being annoying and chipping people
Which scope are u using on the fall
@@aaronmarquez5596 FAL + HDR for me mate, absolutely shreds if you can click fast enough, can essentially turn the FAL full auto
PC player 2.40 K/D ~2500 kills Aggressive play style:
M4- Mono Supressor, Ranger grip, VLK 3.0 sight, 60 rounds, stippled grip. (Close/mid range)
Kar 98K- Longest barrel, Sniper scope, ADS stock, Tac Laser, Focus (All ranges)
Close to mid range the M4 is great but anything farther I just quickscope
using the Kar. It 1 shots very often in the head. Focus allows you to hit the headshot easier despite people spraying. People like to use m4’s with longer barrels and they are good but at that longer range a good player with a Kar will pick you off. Drop 10-20 kills
often. I’m bored and thought i’d share. GG
Think the XRK Void grip is a better option than no stock for the Grau imo. Other than that, its a great setup.
edit: would also use skeleton stock instead of no stock for the m13
I think the reason he is using no stock on the M13 is for the faster movement speed. The skeleton stock got a nerf in season 1 or 2 that completely eliminates it's boost to movement speed so I'm assuming that is why he's using no stock instead but it is still a very good attachment that doesn't punish your recoil
I think the idle sway with no stock is too high for a mid-long range AR like the grau
Jamie Garth I tried aces m13 and it has super bad recoil. I switched back to my m13 setup
Matthew F m13 regardless if attachments has very low recoil you probably just suck at controlling it tho i dont like this specific setup ace uses either
Bonobo 110 I just feel like if I’m using no stock I need to recoil reducing attachments to counter the recoil
The RAM-7 and M13 are my go-to's for now. Both are like a laser when using the right attatchments. The RAM has a lower fire-rate, but more damage, the M13 is the other way around. When my aim isn't too good for the day I stick with the M13 to get more bullets down range quickly, if I'm accurate I like the RAM-7 to absolutely anniahlate targets.
Square Kiwi Giving the M13 with a Monolithic suppressor and a longer barrel turns it into a laser beam
Ulrich Esser Yeah they need to work on their skilled base match making but hackers will be there but they will be fighting against each other if the system does its job.
@@lukewarmwater6713 I think the SBMM system might be limited. Like, above a certain K/D or W/L you get to the maximum difficulty of SBMM. Say that 'limit' is 5.0 KD, everyone with a 5.0 KD or higher is matched against each other. Even hackers with their 100.0 KD. My KD is only around 1.0, so I've barely encountered any hackers luckily. But honestly they should just go back to matching players based on ping and get a decent hacking detection going...
Xclusive "If I could take the stock out of the AX-50 I would" Ace!
Love your videos by the way.
Roy B. 😂 I need to see comments like that in here discord.gg/th58Ram
I actually use the exact same Grau and MP7 builds and have been having a lot of success with those. However, my secondary on the Grau loadout is a kitted crossbow. I watched a video by Driftor breaking down how versatile and useful the crossbow is in warzone and a day after putting it in my loadout I shot someone out of a heli, so it is quite a useful weapon. Would love to see a video with your thoughts on the crossbow in Warzone!
I got Question how do enemy just run over clay mores and proximity mines and not set them off??? They don't stop and hack them they just run right over them and nothing happens.
The Ram-7 just wins fights easily. It has the fastest TTK and really good attachments. XRK Ranger barrel, Monolithic suppressor, 50 round mags, Stippled grip tape, and the XRK Close quaters stock
Nice loadout bruv, i use the exact same shit on my ram-7. For my warzone variant, that is 😁
TTV eidanma no underbarrel grip? Like commando
Nick Dreezy no, I play on PC so recoil really doesn’t become a problem unless we’re talking AK level recoil. Also the barrel reduces recoil a lot
1:22 THANK YOU! I'm sick of people spreading lies and promoting the gun as if it's even on par with the m4 or the ram 7. It's not a competition in terms of ttk
I use almost those exact last two classes but hadn't tried the Grau yet. The only difference with the M13 is using stippled grip instead of the site and with the MP7 Stippled instead of the foregrip.
If 2020 was a gun in warzone it would have the no stock attachment
Oh I get it cauz of corona
@@EternaI_AI the no stock makes it look ugly af
Yes on picture but i anyway never see the stock when i use the gun 😂 you see it ?
@@timwenger8819 nah but in the menu and when you look at what gun you have out you see it
@@josephhorton5311 woah woah woah😂
The 'no stock' attachment is OP in my opinion. The downsides are easily compensated for by 1 or 2 other attachments. Then all you're left with is top tier speed, ADS speed and accuracy in a gun that was already fast and super accurate.
I started using an M4 with SOCOM rounds as a DMR and had a lot of success with it instead of the snipers, which I am not as comfortable with.
That or the FAL is my go to for long range, and then I use the AUG 5.56 almost exclusively as a secondary.
Yes! Fal for me is something ive run since drop but socom rounds are quite good! You just have to be selective about who you engage because of mag size...but the reload is very quick. Its still an M4 👍
SOCOM is insane in the right situation but honestly in quads and even trios at times it's just simply putting you at a disadvantage. Even if Gid graced you with perfect accuracy there is just no way to counter multiple enemies at once. I've learned that if you still want to use it in theas games modes sleight of hand is a MUST.
@@WeHateThePatriots I feel that- do you think the FAL is a better option then? I suck with snipers
@mac Stanford I prefer the SKS to however you just don't get much ammo with it
Made that M13 today and I couldn't believe the lack of recoil from medium range. I felt like I was hacking! Thanks Ace
Noah Roberts I tried it and compared to my other m13 builds it had really high recoil. I would say use the tempus marksman barrel on your m13
No Stock really needs a big recoil and stability nerf, it's easily the most overperforming element of the meta right now. Definitely shouldn't be the go-to attachment for the mode with the longest average engagement ranges in the game.
Is it? RUclipsrs\streamers i watch on PC(CoD isn't their main, they just playing it because BF and PUBG are kinda dead) never ever use it. I tried to use it on several guns in normal MP and unless it's MP7 or something like RPK or super short 5.45 AK conversion, i cannot handle the recoil.
BleedingUranium you probally camp in buildings and on roofs with a slow assault rifle decked with long barrels and grip lmao
Is there any way to get the grau if you missed it last season?
Always appreciate ace contributing to the absolute sweatfesting of COD.
Asheley Davies ahahahahha, come play some in here discord.gg/th58Ram
any reason to run the cyclone barrel instead of mono suppressor on the m13?both give sound suppression but the suppressor gives more range.
I just don’t understand why anyone would waste a perk on overkill, especially with the heartbeat sensor/UAV spam. Easy to pick up a sniper rifle
He says he gets two load outs. First with overkill to get the sniper you want decked out how you want it. Then later another loadout to get ghost, and he just picks the guns from the first load out back up
Hey Ace, it would be much better to use the skeleton stock on the M13. The skeleton stock actually gives better stat boosts when it comes to movement speed and ads speed. It also comes with less downsides
The skeleton stock was heavily nerfed a while back
i still feel like the ram 7 is one of the best and what happened to your aug loadout?
That sandstorm drop made me realise it's not that bad.
@@SolarWingXI yeah true, recoil is hard to control at long range but once you get use to it
@@Asim_Iqbal well not only that it's very slow, I feel like it's better a mid range fights but cant do well at close range
@@unnamed7570 hipfire laser sight, boom, close range fights are solved.
@@cooliusmaximus5802 i used to use the aug alot, i find the mp7's ads kills enemies much faster than I did with the aug. Aug is still good but i like mp7 best. Really enjoying the m13 right now though. Great for those mid range engagements.
Love the m13 in Warzone haven’t changed from it yet 👍🏼
M13 is amazing been using it since warzone started
agreed
Agree
What attachments?
Personally I use either flash or stun (not sure which is better) which are especially useful for endgame where practically everyone has ghost
I think Tracker is an underrated perk in warzone and the AK-47 is slept on
Dave Rod literally that is what i use
The ak usually get out dps by more faster firing gun also to get a good ak it is heavy but yean tracker is cool
yeeter Ya AK in warzone on full armor actually has a faster time to kill than every other assault rifle except the FAL
Dave Rod ohh maybe my aim suck but on multiplayer The ak shred but why is the fal so strong i found that gun to be quiet weak since it is semi auto
0:40 smartest advice I’ve ever heard
Everybody's sleepin on RAM-7
Edit: and PKM
unReal_wResTLer it has way too much recoil and the only attachments that properly get rid of that heavily punish the mobility
@@mikeklassen1094 There isn't much recoil stupid RAM-7 hater. It also has super good DPS
@@m4TT5 oh no, the recoil is next level torture imo but it doesn't hurt the mobility too much compared to an lmg for instance
@@pegador6 The RAM has no vertical recoil, only horizontal. Just move the joystick to the right to stop it
PKM is beastmode gun.
M13 is an absolute beast at 50-150m range but only with last barrel and monolithic... The setup you showed is more suited for multiplayer.. I use longest range possible m13 paired with renetti akimbo and ghost
For a couple of days playing trios (I have 3kd) all I've seen is at least 1 or 2 guys in a team running akimbo snakeshots, which is starting to get really frustrating. They have to get nerfed somehow, too many situations where you have zero chance against them with sniper/AR/SMG loadouts.
Thank jackfrags for that shit.
Clickbait title, fancy thumbnail, telling (at this point) 900k+ people how fucking broken that secondary is. Ever since the vid released ppl have constantly been camping with that thing.. normally they'd just get obliterated with this shitty playstyle, if it wasn't for that broken snakeshot..
Over the past week or so it’s gotten really bad. Basically everyone has at least one squad member running it. At this point if you don’t have someone running it in your squad you’re at a disadvantage
@@nex4613 you had to play in a low skilled lobbies then before. Snakeshot was meta way before jackfrag vid in high skill lobbies. Hes a console player with crossplay off so his stats in warzone kinda dont matter, hes just probably just getting rolled by people who play faster/more aggro and console stupid aimassist up close just does the work (dont get me wrong, imo mnk is still way better, but sometimes its just silly to see how much less ur skill matter on gamepad)
I believe those classes are great! However I would change out the over kill with the last two class because; 1. You’ll give out your location because in my experience everyone likes to spam UAV in warzone. 2. There’s tons of snipers you can pick up from “fresh loot” aka from people you merked lol
I’ll never understand how they allow for weapons without stocks to so accurate. Not to mention the zero penalty on accuracy when jumping and sliding.
Cuz this isn't simulation game, it's a video game
No stock has been nerfed so you should replace no stock with stippy or tac laser (this doesn't apply to the mp7 because it doesn't have any recoil, also you should swap commando for merc on the mp7), also more and more people are using c4's and rpg's and less people are using thermals so you're better off using Eod instead of cold blooded
I also love the m13 in warzone. One of my favorites beside the grau. The oden should be a killer gun but everytime I wanted to test this gun I died so I can't say if oden is good or not
The oden is good only in solos because it melts but the low capacity mag makes it unusable against more than one enemy
[REDACTED] factsss
I use the AX-50 and that MP13 and the perks, Except, instead of cold-blooded, use double-time so that you can increase your speed while maintaining your stealth as you crouch rush players with the MP13. And instead of Amped, use Hardline to conserve more cash, as it saves you 25% in the Store. So I personally would use Double-time, Overkill, and Hardline.
Yoo Ace. I like these classes for trying hard. Can you make a video recommending some fun class off the usual meta. I am bored of using the same couple of class. But I get pooped on using anything off meta.
OG Prangster crossbow with fury bolts, 200lb arm, sleight of hand, speed grip, red dot. You’ll never use a regular gun again it’s so good. Try using it in multiplayer first though to get a grasp for travel time and bolt drop (there is not as much drop as you think). This way when you go into warzone you won’t miss all the time and think that it’s bad even though it’s really good
@@emwols cheers bro will give it a shot
My meme loadout is
FAL
-VLK sight
-marksman barrel
-no stock
-30 round mag
-deputy underbarrel(its good, try it)
Secondary is rinetti akimbos burst
Eod, restock with smokes and thermite....trust me it will save your ass either by giving you good cover with smokes or taking out vehicles or even blocking doorways with thermites plus bedding able to deal with riot shielders which can be dicy! As well as restocking in less than a minute!
Third perk is tune up for faster revives or amped...least meta class that ive won 2 games with. Ive won most my games with m13 but I get you it gets old using the same class 😉👍
@@emwols i really want to try crossbow and maybe even the m680 with slug rounds and detachable mag!
My Grau setup is the same as yours, except I replaced the Commando Grip (I don't need that extra recoil stabilization) with an Optic sight. I use it for Warzone, Ground War and large MP maps.
I'd recommend ghost instead of overkill, run 2 ghost classes with the 2 guns you want instead of overkilling your first class and ghosting the second. This way you have ghost all the time.
I might try that! I set up my second loadout with ghost but ended picking it up first many times...
I’d rather have a sniper all the time than ghost all the time in most situations
@@TheXclusiveAce I suck at sniping that's probably why ahaha. My main loadout is mp5 and grau set up for long range.
Actually, that's a bad idea cause after getting both load-outs and die you would not be able to get one fully customized weapon of your choice.
@@johnson.y2679 ?? That doesn't make any sense. If you die you come back with a pistol.
The RAM7 is the best WZ gun by a mile! It’s like the lover child of the m13 and AK. Fast TTK, low recoil, mobile, 50 round mag option, nice iron sights
ram 7 is really good used it a lot myself but it does lack range where the grau dominates while m4 is the all rounder.
personally i like to run grau and then if i manage to get a second loudout drop will get mp7 as well. grau for distances mp7 will dominate majority of players when it gets to the finishing circles as they will have ar's for close combat still
I love using the Oden and ak-47, but the sad part is that in order to compete for high kill games you have to use the MP7, Grau, or M4 (especially if you play with randoms) these other weapons just don't compete. It's even worse since the servers are doo-dooo if I am using the oden and one of my shots don't register, I'll loose a lot of close range fights because of it. I only get like 13-15kills with the oden, but when I want to try for 20+ games I have too use the Meta weapons or else I am at a extreme disadvantage and in my opinion I hate them, they're so boring to use, not to mention easy as well, pick up and its Literally Laser beams with high fire rates. I Need Duos already...... Solo's is the only mode I can actually use the non-meta weapons since I am confident in my 1v1s, but SOLOS is just filled with hackers and slow camper players .....
solo is unplayable I don't know why they haven't added duos yet quads is annoying because of the time to kill and because of the 4 man premade teams talking on coms that you can't play quads with Randoms
That’s crazy that you’re complaining because a gun is too easy to use lol if you find a gun that is too easy to use then you should be using that gun! I have been going around through all kinds of different assault rifles and I can confidently say that I am no where near as good with the M4 than I am with the Ram7. If I was put into the exact same circumstances with both guns I would get about 20 kills with the Ram but only end up getting 13-15 with the M4 so I use the Ram because it is “easier” for me to use than the M4 lol be proud of the gun you choose to use and don’t think of it as too easy to get kills with lol
@@jamesadkinsiii7925 pretty sure you missed the point tho.. He's saying that using the Meta weapons are boring and in order to compete you basically have to use these boring weapons with no recoil
I have died so many times to a shitty player using a meta weapon and when I check the killcam he killed me by shooting my legs with 10rounds and since im not using mp7 my 4shots in the chest leave him at 1hp its annoying that skillesss players can kill much more skilled players with ease there is LITERALLY NO SKILL CAP
Rick shuckz you have plenty of options when it comes to weapons that do more dps that the “meta” weapons lol use the FAL or Ram instead of the Grau/M4 and you will be doing more DPS. The skill gap all comes into play in positioning and knowing when to shoot at other teams. Gun fights of course have skill gap in them because if you’re using a weapon that does more dps that the “meta” weapons then if you don’t kill the guy it’s because they either saw you first or because you missed your shots lol
@@jamesadkinsiii7925 dude you're such an incompetent idiot lol you just contradicted yourself. What you commented made no sense. First you said that there is of course "skill gap " in gun fights then you said if you don't kill the guy with the meta weapon its because they saw you first? or don't land shots? Dude you make no sense. That's the exact reason why noobs and skilless players can pick up any of those weapons and win Firefights.... You shouldn't have to loose a fight because a noob saw you first camping with a skilless weapon and even though you saw him late you're Head shot precision shots don't matter..... Are you illiterate as well? You just proved our point. That it requires no Skill..
And you must be an idiot because the RAM7 is part of the Meta Weapons, its literally a better version of the M4. Dumbass lol Just stop replying you're embarrassing yourself
I stick with the archangel, because I like it's sights better, and ads speed isn't too much of an inconvenience, since I ads walk quite a bit. Akimbo snakeshot for close quarters.
At first the Grau wasn’t doing it for me but after being comfortable with it , it’s actually really good for mid range
I'm not a good sniper by any means, so for my secondary I actually use akimbo burst Renettis with 5mW Laser, 27 Round Mags, and Lightweight Trigger with Ghost instead of Overkill. They go hard in CQB. Also, Double Time is a huge crutch for me, and I don't encounter that many RPGs. Finally I use Tracker on every class. It's super key in late game situations when you're ratting out the last couple people. Besides that, your Grau and MP7 setups are literally the same as mine. Great video Ace! :)
Ace: Use the Kilo. It’s good.
Me, who uses weird weapons: Nice try, but I’m no deviant
that weapon is no joke, great range right behind Grau (better than M4 and Ram, ttk only slightly lower) and recoil better than m13 and mp7... compared to these two it's a REAL laser
The kilo is decent, not great. It doesn’t really fill the accurate role or the high dps role. People pick the M13 and Grau for range and accuracy and people pick the m4 and RAM for dps. The kilo isn’t needed.
@@m4TT5 idc what "ppl pick", how is kilo worse than m13? better range, almost same dps, better attachments (wisper barrel increases your range AND silences at once = 1 extra slot for ads improvement), great range and BEST recoil, even without many attachments like the longest barrel, that many guns require to be "lasers"...
simply underrated, but ok, they all can play with m4 that has upredictable side to side bounces xD
Co ja pacze?!? o.O yeah but everyone knows the M13 and Grau are better. The m13 and grau are more accurate. That is a fact. Also better handling.
@@m4TT5 what kind of fact is that? i've spent some decent ammount of time on custom matches trying out recoil pattern and recoil control for all of these guns and nothing beats kilo, maybe you should check yourself? Grau has great ironshights but bounces more to the sides than other m13 and kilo... m13 has comparable recoil control to kilo, but only with the longest barrel, while kilo remains accurate even with shorter barrel
idk, I guess ppl have some troubles to admit it's a great weapon cause... i have no idea why, maybe cause the won't try out anything that isn't tagged as "BeSt WEaPoN evEr" by mainstream youtubers
It's in the middle of the 5.56 rifles stack in every category and if someone says it has worse recoil than m13, grau, ram or m4 I would recommend to wear glasses
Ace, I think it makes more sense to just have 2 Ghost classes instead of the first one being with Overkill. Because then you have Ghost immediately and when you're looting your 2nd drop you still can pick a Sniper class for instance and then swap the pistol with the primary gun from the class before. In my opinion having Ghost as soon as possible is more valuable than having both primary weapons at the start. Just a thought and the way I do it...
Benikaya kind of depends how your squad performs too ya know? If you’re playing with a weak squad you probably want ghost. But who cares if you have a squad that is murdering anyway.
Personally I've switched cold-blooded in all but my sniping classes with EOD. RPGs and C4 are too strong rn and got tired of dying by them.
I literally just did this today also.
Thank you Ace! Could you make a video testing the new perks for Warzone? (Quick revive, finding killstreaks in boxes, cheaper streaks)
What happened to Ace’s AUG loadout
The AUG got a stealth nerf
@@Gl0ckb1te when was that?
Regardless of nerf it's still really good. I think it just doesn't fit his play style. I've used it a few times and it's definitely top 3 for me
What did the nerf do
@@botliukkone7303 one more shot to kill when an enemy is fully armored
Archangel is used by so many because it is the best recoil on the whole gun. So u can then put on all quick attachments after the barrel.
Dylan C come win some games over in here discord.gg/th58Ram
I dont get in many really close quarters gunfights so my guns are slow.
imo the P90 is the gun I’ve had most fun using in warzone. It shreds in close to mid range, but lacks damage in long ranges. Its really accurate tho. To make up for the decreased damage in longer ranges, I equip overkill and pair it up with an M4/M13/Grau. Then I get a ghost loadout and that dub.
Unpopular opinion: no stock shouldn’t take up an attachment slot
Loki
Fr
M13: Regular Barrel, Monolithic Supressor, Merc fore grip, Monacle Relfex Site, Stippled Grip, and 60 Rd mags. I don't find ADS speed as important in Warzone as I do Multiplayer. Never have any issues ADSing with this setup and it straight lasers.
PKM all day every day
Setup?
@@nex4613 PKM: 25.9” Heavy Barrel, Merc thermal hybrid optic, Snatch grip, Monolithic suppressor, 200 round box. Good balance of range and power with manageable ads due to snatch grip with enough ammunition for a prolonged engagement without having to reload. I'll run it with Cold-blooded Ghost and amped for faster weapons swap. As far as a secondary I usually pair it with a decent smg I find before the loadout drop. Its a monster of a gun at medium and long ranges and its won me quite a few engagements and games!
The reason people use the HDR over the AX50 is because it has half the bullet drop of the AX50's heavy tungsten rounds. The only advantage the AX50 has over the HDR is the higher bullet cycle rate, but this is really only useful in closer ranges. The HDR is the king of long range combat overall.
Hey love your vids, but ive been playing quite a bit lately and i feel like I've improved quite a bit but i cant really tell where i place compared to other players like i have a 1.22 kd but with skill based match making idk how to tell if I'm actually good or a potato in the veggie aisle, how do i know where i stand?
you 1v1 me. If I win, that means you're really, really bad.
1.22 kd?
Mine is around 1.28 and I'm top 3% according to CoD stats tracker. You probably just got bumped into that bracket of players that know what the heck they're doing in the game. Keep at it. We need more teammates like you.
@@cooliusmaximus5802 thanke man
Hello and thank you very much for your amazing content. Why do you always choose No Stock over Strippled Pistol Grip? Its ADS is the same, however grip offers Sprint To Fire speed.
Oden is pretty underrated NGL
Dude if you don’t mind with the Grau you could change the ax50 with aug with 60 round mags also change the heartbeat sensor for drum so I can live longer in the gas
Did he just say "when I'm messing around" how do you do that in this toxic swety lobyes
stas Ž. Take a break from being a greasy boi, sbmm will drag you back to lobbies where you can have fun again, and eventually you’ll be getting lobbies that will be a spot where you can enjoy the game again, you might have to play serious some of the time and muck around other times to get around the whole mess that sbmm is though
@@Ilych367 cf
@@andrewmoore7022 I don't give 2 shits about my k/d I can't mess around bicouse if I do, I get dropshoted across the map or get spawn killed for half a mach bicouse my team seams to be doing nothing like I have a k/d 0.93 wich is not that good. I get some serius swets in the enemie team but my team seems to do nothing. What I'm saing here is If I don't do the objective and don't get 50 kills nobody in my team will so the map get's filled with campers and some dude with out a Life spawn kills us and we can't do shit.
@@stas7378
I hear you loud and clear, homie. Want to know what I do? If my team doesnt have some sort of advantage , or I see that we're not fighting for the objective, after the first minute of the match, I accept that im gonna take an L because the team is trash. After that, I stop playing the objective, hold down a section of the map and basically try to make it so that the enemy team cant kill me or come through my side. It brings in a lot more rage from them. They'll call you trash and all that, though the leaderboard says otherwise, and believe me, you'll feel that stress of trying to carry deadweight to a dub gone. You saw that L coming earlier than anybody, all you can do is make the game less enjoyable to the enemy team because they cant kill you off the objective none is helping with.
Of course, in a perfect world, teammates jump the objective and call out enemy whereabouts.
If you know you can win your own gunfights, streak the enemy team and have them wondering wtf is going on like Caveman Spongebob.
@@stas7378 nahh you probably just garbage.. i carry my team most of the time and get 40+ kills every game without any headphones and my team does alright cuz im the one killing everyone and my teammates are the ones who spawntrap the enemies.. *just get better my g*
I’m loving the Grau with the VLK 3.0 scope for mid/long range and MP7 secondary. Both basically setup how you have
Grau and you with no stock: I love moving quicker. It’s very important in Warzone. *Mobility is worse than it comes as default*
the stats in the game are very vague. the mobility doesn’t mean your movement speed is slow, it mainly shows your ADS and aim walking movement speed.
Anthony Barragan
Ah.
I've got another one that's a PKM kitted for low recoil, rpg for vehicles, EOD, Restock, and Amped, claymores and snapshot grenades. It's my bait class. Other teammates have ghost, post up in a building in one of the final circles, claymores are warnings, then I snapshot to paint them. Will only grab this one on the 2nd free drop, if the last circle is tightening on a building. Otherwise it's overkill ax50+mp7, or grau+snakeshot, both with c4 and heartbeat sensor. Also both with cold blooded and amped, grau has ghost.
Ceo of being early and dont know what to comment
Just go with the generic response of "first"
Grau: Archangel barrel, mono suppressor, 50 round mags, tac laser, commando foregrip
m13: Tempus Marksman, mono, 60 round mags, corp combat holo (blue dot), ranger foregrip.
Im still trying to unlock the grau in warzone its hard af lol
Joseph Horton I was trying my hardest to do it. But it’s almost impossible. I had to suck it up and download the multiplayer. It’s the fastest way to do it.
Ik it so hard to get the grau
Play the game mode shoot the ship and wait till the map is shipment the mode is the second to last mode under quick play. Trust me you will get the gun in 2 games. 👍
@@flintlock9391 wait is that in mp coz im not paying £40 or whatever
@@itzyoungbuck1006 i have 5/25 done already tho and i only started playing like a couple weeks ago
M4A1 with socom rounds and 0.375 with akimbo snake shot works like a chef knife on butter
I use the same loadout
I really believe the ak47 is the best weapon in warzone with the 545 conversion kit. If you hit your shots you will not lose gunfights at close to medium ranges. Rarely do I promise things and I PROMISE THIS
Setup?
Nex #kek Compensator Romanian Barrel, 545 rounds, rubberized grip, no stock
Nex #kek good ads, good movement, good accuracy
On the mp7 I suggest taking off the foregrip and putting in stippled grip tape..makes it easier to get the advantage in cqc and I think the recoil is still really easy to control..I can outgun m4s and graus at mid range very effectively
The Grau is too good that it needs a nerf 😂😂😂
No
I feel oden will be widely used here soon..the quickest killing gun out, if you can handle the ADS / Fire Rate. Truly an underrated gun, cant wait to try the m13 setup
Support loadout with restock, flashbang, rpg
number one smoke grenade would be better I think because you can provide cover with constant smokes due to restock... just a thought
I have played with almost all types of loadouts, by cod pros or clickbait RUclipsrs, and this is by far the most OP load out.
Perks- EOD(or CB) Ghost Amped
W1: Grau (mono, Archangel, commando, 50 mag, ftac rubber)
W2: akimbo. 357 snakeshots
HB sensor, C4
I manage around a 7% win rate in solos with this (even tho I suck)
Why is this OP?
This makes the Grau a laser which is good for long-med range and can easily take down snipers in the open, while the akimbo magnums just MELT any person in close range.
Feel free to steal :)
as soon as i saw you remove the stock you lost all credibility
The only reason I use the archangel barrel over the nexus barrel is that the iron sights are a cleaner for long range. Don’t get me wrong they are both good, but that thin front post on the archangel is so good at range
I just refuse to use the grau. No clue why I just have a passion for hating it
Is the skelleton stock good instead of no stock on M13?
I really like the KILO but nobody is playing it...
Dominik Holmes it’s a decent gun, it’s more accurate than the m4 but less accurate than the m13 and grau
🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
Best attachments for WarZone
1. Monolithic suppressor
2. Longest barrel
3. 50-60 round mag
4. Commando
5. Stippled, tac laser, no stock or red dot
Pair it up with a knife, pistol/s, or RPG
C4 and Smokes or heartbeat sensor
The grau has to be the most overrated gun in this game... Yeah it's good but it literally has no place in the game. The M13 has a faster time to kill and a faster fire rate than it so it's better in close range and it also has low recoil so it's also good for medium and long range. People say it's good for challenging sniper range but why would you do that when it has a slow time to kill...I mean a sniper could just one shot you from that range. Honestly the gun is just a slower TTK and more mobile Kilo 141. why would you use it?
If u put the archangel barrel on the gun iron sight is so good and the gun is just so good melts from medium to far range
For the Focus perk, how would you rate the effectiveness of its ability to keep your aim on target? Honestly I've used it a couple times but I'm really not sure how much of a difference it makes. I don't think I've even utilized it much considering I'm usually getting killed up close getting side blinded most of the time
You get about 50 seconds more so it’s a huge difference but holding that long on ads just gives away your location