I love Star Trek. I didn't always like it, but I love it now. I'm trying to watch every episode and movie, but I skip episodes about pregnancy and babies, because I don't want to spend my free time listening to babies whining.
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The defense lawyer brought that up. I guess that is one of the jokes. The cop went after easy targets rather than something more dangerous. It would be like a police officer seeing a mugging and a jaywalker at the same time and went after the jaywalker.
The french law mentioned is “Non assistance a personne en danger” and it specifically states that you only have to help or help prevent if it poses no danger whatsoever to yourself. So an armed robbery would not apply.
The Quebec version of the same also stipulates that there's only a duty to intervene if you have appropriate training, too (in other words, if you see somebody drowning you aren't expected to help them unless you're trained as a lifeguard)
In Austria we also have a similar law. It also states that you only need to help if there is no risk to yourself and you can only be expected to have a reasonable response (e.g. if you learned CPR when getting your drivers licence it is not required that you actually use it in an emergency, since you are not trained for high stress situations noone can expect you to do that) So it basically boils down to "Call an ambulance".
And it is a good law. For mandating you to help and for not mandating you to put yourself in danger. It is not a crazy law that shouldn't even be on the books.
Fun fact: the actor that played Jackie Chiles went to the same barbershop as Johnny Cochran for years which is why he felt so comfortable with his impression, which helped get the role initially on Seinfeld.
Cochrane was actually cool with it. What caused him to put a stop to it was when Morris was approached by NBC about a "Jackie Chiles" spinoff. Jackie had only appeared in what, five episodes over multiple seasons? I don't know if it would've been a good show or not, but I can see Cochrane's point in not wanting a full series caricaturing him.
Your explanation of the Good Samaritan law at 4:00 reminds me of the Incredibles. "My client did not ask Mr. Incredible to save him, My client did not want to be saved."
@@Humbilly Just read through the article, that actually sounds like a good thing. You wouldn't want "I'm sorry for your loss" to be considered an admission of guilt, right?
That was something that I had always wondered. They literally caught the crime on camera in the days before photoshop. That could easily been used as evidence to catch the real criminal but that was never discussed.
Never saw this episode and I thought it'd be about them trying to confiscate the video but they tried to say no it's private property with all their vacation video on it.
@@MisterMomotaro1996 As a program? No, no it isn't. Video files certainly were no where near as complex or as large as they are today. As evidenced by how people treat even newer videos that are "only" 240p or 480i as "toaster videos". Back in 98 we were still using "real media" player and encoders. Files sizes and quality on those files encoded on that are absolute shit in comparison today. Most of my video editing experience came in the early 2000's. Which would be more advanced than what this group of friends from new york would have access to.
@@flynnlivescmd Double yup. But it's interesting and maybe helpful to look how it happened. Well-intentioned social media and push notifications have turned into a mechanism that perpetuates the cycle of narcissism by disrupting the pathway between the anterior cingulate gyrus, anterior cingulate sulcus, and amygdala. Now it's spreading to other countries with the Brexiting and stuff. Soon, it will be a worldwide existential threat (ala John B. Calhoun's 'Universe 25' research) unless drastic changes are engineered and implemented in both society and the human genome
AllForgottenMemories no you don’t have to help in Germany either... :S you ARE NOT legally obliged to do jack shit, not even call the police. You aren’t insured if you help out of your own accord! Only if someone specifically asks for help you are at least insured, but STILL not obliged to help, you are still allowed to ignore what’s going on.
There is - see herewww.juraforum.de/lexikon/unterlassene-hilfeleistungIn a nutshell, if you don't help if it can reasonably be expected of you to do so, you are violating the law.
Objection: Small town law dictates that you arrest all out of towners and frame them with every unsolved crime in your jurisdiction. See Springfield vs. Steve Sax for more.
I love the idea that in the lore of the show, unarmed civilians have a duty to attack and subdue an armed man stealing a car, but the officer responding has no real need to follow up on the getaway.
Numerous sources claim that the protagonists are somehow bad people, but all I see is a group of friends with various personality disorders trying to function in a world gone mad.
I always thought that the defense could have argued that "helping" comes in many forms and that by recording the hijacking, these four were creating evidence that could help find and convict that car thief. Plus, as you said, the hijacker was posturing as though he had a gun, making it unreasonable to be required to help directly.
I would have stated that “you can’t use past character events to judge them now, besides your using it to try to play with the judge and jury’s emotions which would in turn make a decision based on emotions rather than logic and law.”
The entire premise of the trial was just an excuse to bring in a lot of the minor characters the foursome wronged over the years. It wasn't really meant to be taken seriously.
I guess part of the humor is that it didn't even occur to them to offer any form of help even though they were witnesses with the whole thing on video. The character questioning is literally the whole point, to review so many hilarious characters, remind us how horrible they really were and end with the ultimate karma. I don't Theron anyone expected it to be realistic.
You missed out on the biggest thing: The cop is visible through the reflection of the window during the whole robbery. He was there and saw everything. Watch the scene.
@@RidgeR5 The correct answer. "But we can see it on 17" computer screen, surely fans would've noticed this detail too?" Maybe, at best, they had a blurry suspicion. It's all about resolution. Seinfeld had the foresight to record the show on actual film, which was more expensive than the standard VHS recording tapes of that time. A roll of film, which is composed of silver halide crystals emulsed in gelatin, can be processed from Standard Definition (think VHS quality) all the way to IMAX / 8K. For comparison, check out a 90s show that did skimped on using film: Home Improvement (Sorry AL 😅)
It's obviously a mistake, though, since the way he's reflected he seems to be closer to the building, but when he walks up to the victim he was clearly on the other side of the incident. Why the actor was close enough to be reflected during filming is a good question, though.
That's a story I'd like to see dramatised. Two dudes sat at a barbers trying not to discuss a case but hinting heavily. One of the dudes taking acting notes. Hard cut - Seinfeld episode being shot.
Despite missing it because he didn't watch the show. That Art Vandelay joke was probably the best joke of the entire series. It was a callback to entire arcs
The Sheriff said it was a COUNTY law, now the District Attorney says it's a CITY law. So, which is it? And how does it align with STATE law? Because the episode clearly stipulates that it isn't a MASSACHUSETTS' law.
@@SamN234 As has been covered by LegalEagle in previous videos, many of the Founders felt that there were other freedoms that the people would have protected that were not specifically enumerated in the Constitution. The Ninth Amendment was written specifically for this, stating that "the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." Essentially, even if it's not specifically stated in the Constitution, there are rights that can be inferred - privacy is the most popular example of this. It was never expressly stated that we have a right to privacy, but with provisions such as the freedom from unlaw searches and seizures, it can be understood that privacy is an inherent but unwritten right of the people, and no law can violate it. So as it was ruled that the police do not have a constitutional duty to protect, it can also be assumed that no person has a duty to protect or intervene for anyone else. There might be some exceptions to that, such as parents and their children, but you cannot be compelled to take action to intervene for any random person by any state or local law, because it would violate certain rights held, but not necessarily enumerated, within the Constitution. And the fact that there is precedent that police officers do not have a duty to help, any federal court would be bound by the Supreme Court's ruling and overturn the conviction. If it then went to the Supreme Court, it would be absurd to decide that regular citizens have a duty to intervene and help when police officers do not.
Objection! Their lawyer should have made the argument that with this being an armed robbery, no reasonable action could have been taken without the defendants endangering themselves. As such, the act of videoing the incident to ensure that evidence existed to catch and convict the real criminal was in line with this fictitious law.
Prosecution would argue that there is no proof of a gun and that four of them attacking the guy in the back would be perfectly safe anyway. Not sure it would go much better.
Interesting point. If the defense could demonstrate that there was reason to believe they'd be in danger for intervening, then they would have been complying with the law. However, I think the video they made could work against them. They were relatively calm and were making fun of the victim. Is that the way you'd behave if you thought you were in danger?
@@randomstuff-qu7sh Perhaps... but it also shows that they were doing 'something' to try and help (take a video recording to help catch the perpetrator later). I feel as though their lawyer somewhat failed them here since, instead of arguing within the confines of the law, he argued that the law was wrong (which it was, but you aren't going to win many cases this way). It also shows that a nearby police officer did nothing to stop the robbery... if a police officer is nearby, why would anybody have a civic duty to do the police officer's job for them if they should have had it under control?
This whole scenario is so absurd it seems impossible to me to speculate about it. I mean, it's hard to say "they can't do this" or "they couldn't have done that" when the entire situation is something that in reality couldn't have happened. So you can insert just about any insane argument and decide it would or wouldn't work and it's all equally plausible (or implausible rather)
20:44 OBJECTION! Even under the law as it's laid out, they are not guilty. It was said that they're obligated to help when it's reasonable to do so. Is it reasonable to ask four untrained and unarmed civilians to stop a carjacker (presumably) armed with a pistol? An additional argument could be made that they helped to the best of their ability by getting video evidence of the carjacking.
Exactly; even if this law held up, they could have endangered their lives (and for that matter, the life of the victim) if they confronted a likely armed criminal. Plus, the fact that they captured evidence of the crime should be argued as assisting law enforcement capture the perpetrator, even if that wasn't their primary motive for doing so.
@@troodon1096 I like this line of defense for sure. It would have been a smart move. As for the motive, it is said "I got to get this on video" (then it's up to interpretation what that means) and the dismissive "fat" joke could have been explained away as compensating for the fear of dealing with -- and bringing assistance to -- someone in a dangerous situation. Of course, that negates the point of the episode, but it does make sense re: a defense. Some of that may have constituted a "good character" defense, which, in turn, could have opened the door for "bad character" evidence.
@@foxjade8924 I found his restaurant not gaining popularity after being switched to Pakistani actually very unrealistic. New Yorkers LOVE ethnic food, regardless of where they live. It may not have been the most popular Pakistani place, but no way it would've been dead empty.
If your immigration status is murky you have a duty to due diligence, why did Babu not know when was is status expiring. Meh. Jerry was real nice to him.
They really messed up on the Babu case. Jerry actually helped but the show(producers) framed it as him being bad. They were so dead set on convicting him they even presented misleading evidence.
In Germany we actually have a law that obligates you to help people in danger. We call it "unterlassene Hilfeleistung" which translates to "failure to provide assistance" but it has the big point that you wouldnt have to help if you get in danger yourself. But if there is someone drowning in a pool you would be obligated to get them out, call an ambulance and provide first aid. Also you cant be help responsible for damages that you inflict, like broken rips etc
@@larsheim1032 Wow that's pretty interesting - I think it sounds pretty good for "accidents" - like someone falling into a pool - but I assume it doesn't apply in more serious situations like a robbery, right? Because of the implied danger
@@lWantToHearYouSad I study law myself and this is one tricky law to proof. In case of a robbery by gunpoint for example, no one expects you to actively stop the thief by yourself and fight with him because you can get shot or the situation can escalate. But, you can perfectly call the poice or help the victim after the thief leaves. If you witness a robbery and then just leave the victim there without being bothered, then you make yourself responsible for not helping the person as long as you didnt have to expose yourself to danger (which can be avoided by just informing the police) or if it cant be expected of you to bring the help (if you didnt have your phone then you obviously cant make the call). "Helping the victim" in the sense of this law goes beyond actively stopping the thief, there are many ways to help. If you want to read more, the paragraph number is 323c StGB :)
@@thenerktwins In the early seasons they were far more normal than later on when they got turned into caricatures. You can see and compare Jerry's apartment early on with how it was towards the end. Also imprisoning someone for not adhering to somewhat subjective morality not mostly objective laws is dangerously close to full blown North Korea. It really is. The producers may not have intended that but they unintentionally sided with Kim.
A law like this (denial of assistance) is existing in Germany. But since the hijacker had (presumably) a gun it doesn't apply. You must not endanger yourself.
It was totally improper behaviour, not to mention vaguely libelous against the real Johnny Cochran (who publicly spoke out against this scene), but it was also irrelevant to the main topic of the trial.
Objection! They died in the plane crash and the trial is a summation of their poor character in life, culminating in a Sartre-esque afterlife of being forced into each other's miserable company
nice philosophical thought. But don't tell this interpretation to the real Seinfeld, he'd laugh you out of the room. (from how I judge hom watching interviews )
I was walking down the street with my wife when I saw my mother-in-law being beaten up by six men. My wife said, "Aren't you going to help?" I said, "Six should be enough." (c) Les Dawson
@@jeffc5974 I think they use Cochrane as the baseline for those parodies because his most famous client had blatantly gotten away with murder thanks to his counsel.
The drowning person analogy at around the 4 min mark reminds me of The Incredibles and Mr Incredible saving the suicidal guy's and the train full of people's lives but also injuring them. I'd like to see an episode about that scene in The Incredibles
The Seinfeld finale is clearly inspired by the French "duty to rescue" law (Non-assistance à personne en danger): the maximum sentence is a copy-paste: 5 years and 75'000 Euros (500'000 FRF back then; prior to the EUR introduction). The show mentions that this law came to be after the Princess Diana car crash, but this is a misunderstanding. The paparazzo who were standing by taking pictures of dying people instead of calling emergency services were indicted and tried (however I don't believe that they were actually sentenced); which certainly caught the show-writers attention. But the law has existed since WWII. This law only applies if you are aware of someone being in immediate danger of injury and/or death, can act to help this person without putting yourself in danger and do nothing. To take the classic stranger drowning in a pool example, if you don't know how to swim or you're 90 years old you can't be held responsible for not jumping in the pool to get that person out. But if a kid is drowning, while his mother is screaming that she can't swim and need help, while you're an Olympic swimmer but just decide not get in the pool because it would ruin your make-up, you're clearly violating this law. Also, you don't have to be physically present for "duty to rescue" to be applicable. Say that you log-on social media and see that one of your classmate that you dislike (you know the name and address) is live streaming his suicide attempt, instead of dialing 911 you grab some pop-corns and send texts messages to your buddies to watch it with you, that's a failure to help (should have called 911). That being said, the situation depicted in the episode would be very unlikely to be a "duty to rescue" case. The bystanders had no way to know if the robber had a real gun in his pocket or was simply pointing his fingers. Seinfeld could be blamed for not dialing 911, but given that police was already on the spot in a minute this had no impact. It's interesting to note that this law is not just about giving penalties for not rescuing, but it can also shields the helper: as for the Good Samaritan law described by LE (can't be help responsible if the person got injured while you saved her life) and it can excuse breaching professional secret if it relates to a crime against a minor or someone incapacitated (any professionals who are aware of child abuse, for example, can notify authorities regardless if they learnt about it in a way normally covered by professional secret). And just for the record, in my book, it's a good law. Choosing to let someone die that you could easily save is no different than actively killing this person.
@yossarian Pfft. In France you might go to jail regardless. If you just stood there, you didn't rescue, so you can be sentenced. If you so much as punch the aggressor, you can be sentenced for assault. Hell, you can get sent in front of a judge for helping refugees, while the police is given orders to slash their tents.
I think it all comes down to the law, which states you should help if it’s reasonable to do so. The car jacket had a firearm (or, at least, gave the impression that he had one). If Seinfeld and company had interfered in any way, they would be putting their lives at risk. Therefore, by the wording of this very law, they are innocent so it wouldn’t be reasonable to intervene. Jackie Chiles could also make an argument that they captured footage of the car jacker, which is actually helpful. Obviously, this is all just for show since it’s a comedy. However, I would’ve enjoyed the finale more if they got off scot free and continued to be horrible people. If anything, it would be another middle finger to the dozens of people they negatively affected in their lifetime.
@yossarian A lot of people see not stopping crimes as a citizen as being lazy or selfish. But, most citizens are not trained to deal with those situations. The most likely outcome is an intervening citizen to elevate the threat level and cause more harm than good. If someone's getting robbed, you let them get robbed. If you so much as surprise the robber you could cause them to severely injure the other person. If you see someone getting beat up by a handful of people and you are sure you can't win; run and get help. You getting beat next to them doesn't help them. Sometimes the best thing you can do is run and get help, or just do nothing at all. And if you can help then we have a law to protect you as you're being a good Samaritan.
I didn't see anyone bring up the fact that a municipality/county can't pass a law and make it a felony. That is only the prerogative of the state or federal governments.
In france it is called "non-assistance à personne en danger" and is a real thing but this trial wont even stand because you don't have to help is you have to put yourself in danger too !
Same in Italy, "Omissione di Soccorso"; it's like, if somebody is badly hurt and in need of assistance, you can't just walk away, you have to call an ambulance or something
@@culwin The Library doesn't feature much actual 'law' though. It's more just a take on how police work which while related to law isn't actually about practicing law.
Objection: You should give it a D or D- since a good lawyer would not be sleeping with the prosecution's witness during trial and potentially throwing the case. One of the last scenes revealed that the lawyer was romantically involved with the character portrayed by Terri Hatcher.
Objection. The prosecution was using the word "character" in a literary sense. He showcased a cavalcade of "characters" from the history of Seinfield. Therefore the use of Character Witnesses wasn't improper... in a literary/showmaking sense.
I think your example of being protected by a good Samaritan law while giving CPR was the best one. Even trained paramedics can easily damage ribs (bruising, fracturing or straight up breaking them) during the chest compressions. We were told about this when I did my first aid training as part of my nursing course. It makes sense, you are pushing hard on their chest at a rate of 100 times per minute. Thankfully, we can't be sued for it in the UK either. Broken ribs are a small price to pay if it means saving your life, after all.
also the sheriff who quotes the law says they had to help "If it is reasonable to do so", in the case of 4 unarmed people vs a possibly armed one, it is quite unreasonable to expect them to intervene.
Counter to that they didn't make an effort to call the police(despite making a phone call) and used their camera to record the event but only because they thought it was funny and didn't offer said video to the cops to help find the criminal. They clearly had no reason for thinking it was dangerous to record or make a phone call so there's no reason they couldn't help.
scragar A police officer was within view (considering the time it took for him to talk to the victim and arrest them - almost immediately after the crime). Really, as he said, the officer should have called backup or apprehended the criminal earlier. t Also, is it a crime to find something funny? Is it worthy of a year in prison?They were exercising free speech and the fact that they plausibly only filmed for their entertainment is character evidence that should not be admissible. Also, calling the police would have changed nothing. They couldn’t have arrived before the actual criminal was well escaped considering the crime was so brief.
@Skobo Do In legal sense, it falls on the line that what they didn't wasn't moral, but it shouldn't be legally criminal. I lay terms, they were d***s, but being a d*** is not a criminal offense.
@Skobo Do true in its legal system by legal system case. The case still stands that being rude or insensitive is not a criminal act so long as your following the legal requirements of your given system. I.e in Germany calling the cops would be required, but polite to the person robbed isn't. Being not a nice person isn't a crime in and of it's self. Basically just stating that character behavior is not taken into account for these laws so long as the law is being followed. In America that means no obligation, and in places like Germany that assistance of some kind is attempted. In a realistic scenario all they might need to avoid penalty is to hand over the video recording do to how quickly law enforcement came. Moral character is not a factor, only the law and base requirements in following it. Still doesn't mean that the Seinfeld group wasn't jerks during it, just that it's not a deciding factor on the legal side.
In Denmark we have a law that makes it illegal to leave people "in a helpless state". Which for example means that if you find a person that is unconcious and hurt, you must call an ambulance and you must stay with them until help arrives. If you have first aid training you are further obligated to use it to for example give CPR. I kind of like that law.
We have the same law in Germany. If you don`t endanger yourself, you have to help. I think it is a good thing. Here noone would expect them to help, as the perpetrator has a weapon.
Objection! At 3:18 the police officer clearly says that bystanders are legally obligated to help a person in danger "when its reasonable to do so." So even assuming this BS law was real and enforceable, there is no way a judge would agree that trying to intervene in an ARMED ROBBERY would be a reasonable situation. On top of that, Kramer did one of the few things that WOULD be considered reasonable in that situation by filming the act. It might not help the victim immediately, but it certainly would aid the police in finding the culprit. What a frustrating episode
I agree that the cops should not have shown up immediately, but the Seinfeld gang should have went on their way to get a burger or something and then the cops should have came for them there. In this way, it would have been easier to build an argument that they should have at least called the cops and they didn't.
He stated "unless it was unreasonable to do so" The criminal was motioning that he had a weapon. They had no obligation due to unsafe criminal conditions.
You mean a duty to rescue law, and no, it would not nullify the law; the bystanders would be required to call 911 once having retreated to safety. In most countries where a duty to rescue law exists, all that such a law requires when the situation would put the rescuer in danger is that they call emergency services.
@@sonicrush44 In the specific fictitious case presented in the episode, yes. But I was making a broader statement, that being that duty to rescue laws, in places that have them, are not usually ''nullified'' when there is an armed criminal present. The law is still in effect, but it only requires the bystander to call the police if able.
They should still have found a way to call the police instead of standing around laughing about the whole thing. One of them could have gone to find a police officer or something--pretty easy, since one was obviously close by.
@kragseven The DVD commentaries include them frequently pointing out that one of the actors, who isn't in the scene, can be heard laughing along with the audience. I think that's pretty fantastic ^_^
The case here reminds me of an incident I saw in the news a year or so ago in I believe Florida- a group of teenagers mocked and jeered at a drowning man, recording his death and posting it online for their friends to watch, but made no attempt to assist or call for help. Ultimately the state was so incensed by their complete lack of empathy that, despite not having any laws conferring a duty to rescue, they found law that could be leveled at them- failure to report a body. I also recall that there was some talk of passing new law that would put a duty to rescue, or to at least contact authorities, in such an event, though I don't know if it has, or will, pass.
I marathon watch Seinfeld and Curb your Enthusiasm during quarantine , the line” why would we want to help people , that’s for nuns and Red Cross “ that is a very Larry David thing to say
Speaking of Johnny C. can you get into how south park created the term "wookie defense" and how people have used it in real law. Edit it's called "chewbacca defense"
@didrik mortensen it was a joke, oh how he talked shit that didn't make any sense to the case. South park just kinda put a name to it. So when a lawyer starts pulling some shit like that, they have a name for it
Objection! You missed the fact that Jackie immediately goes off with Teri Hatcher's character (and we see them in bed during the jury deliberation) could be a mis-trial due to conflict of interest ... right?
In Australia, for as long as I can remember, there is a version of the "duty to assist" law in relation to motor vehicles. If you are involved in an accident, you must stop and render assistance to anybody who might need it. People get charged with violating this law all the time - even though they are genuinely in fear of their safety from the angry reactions from others at the scene of the accident.
Jackie failed because he should have argued that the law was unconstitutional. The character witnesses should not have been allowed. They seem to have been convicted of past alleged wrongdoings.
“It’s a show about nothing”. Cartoonish. Yep, that’s what Seinfeld was... a live action cartoon that relished in the ridiculousness of its characters. The parade of witnesses was a nostalgic look back at previous episodes and a little payback for those people who the stars of the show had wronged over the years. However, the true travesty of justice surrounding this show centers around the real life actors and their contracts. Jerry’s contract set him up for life, where he pulls in hundreds of millions of dollars in residuals whereas the other three effectively get nothing. They tried to re-negotiate at some point during the last couple seasons but were summarily rejected by the show’s producers.. including Jerry himself! Julia has since moved on to various projects and is the lead character on the show Veep, where she has won several Emmys. Jason Alexander still shows up in movies and t.v. shows once in a while but never actually won an Emmy for his role on Seinfeld. Finally, Michael Richards committed career suicide when recordings of him making racial slurs went viral and he has since all but clumsily fallen off the face of the Earth in Kramer-like fashion.
Don't worry about Julia she inherited millions before Seinfeld ever started. Jason does Broadway he has stayed working. Michael deserves what happened. But he gets some money from his forgettable movies disorder in the court and UHF as well as Airheads. He also had a series about him as a Kramer like PI. So if he saved his money he may be ok.
@@walterzimmerman5028 actually the black guy was heckling him during the whole performance and had earned the tirade Richards directed at him. Look up how George Carlin would handle hecklers. The guy heckling Richards got off easy compared to one guy that heckled Carlin in the seventies.
When I was a young lad in the boy scouts, I took a merit badge associated with law, which was actually taught by trial lawyers. They gave me a nugget of wisdom that A) maybe they shouldn't have and B) stuck with me for years anyway. "Being an asshole isn't illegal."
"The prosecution calls Frodo to the stand." "Objection! Frodo is from Middle Earth, and has no bearing on this case!" "The prosecution has gone to great lengths and considerable costs to find this individual." "Objection overruled."
One of my favorite scenes on The Office is in that episode when Michael says, "that's what she says," and they ask "what did she say," and then they have to read that part of the conversation back
@@ashleyjames6740 less because samaritans were dicks but because there was a strong divide between groups. imagine a black guy saving a kkk member from a burning house or something.
The way this episode went down ALWAYS bothered me. Thank you SO MUCH for making sense of this, it actually makes me feel a TON better about the finale…gives me a weird sense of closure lol
You mean ... you didn't understand the Seinfield finale, but now you do? After a straight analysis of the law of the episode, which was non-sensical? One has NOTHING to do with (or explain) the other. You can't really explain humor - either you get it or you don't.
@@emanuelmota7217 making sense of nonsensical things is one of the best things about the Internet, and humanity in general. Yeah I thought the Seinfeld finale was funny, but it also felt like a really abrupt ending- even for a show about nothing.
So basically this whole episode is if social media ran a courtroom. Instead of deliberating whether or not a crime was committed, this is just a court of public opinion and drama where they punish you for saying naughty things.
Yeah, we're not too far from that actually. You think TV judges are bad, they're about to start spreading (not manspreading, go preach elsewhere) to places we don't want them to.
I will admit disappointment in the finale because it was pretty boring. But the very very end, with our quartet in jail? Absolutely the perfect ending for the characters. It was a pretty logical conclusion to the series.
Except he still probably would have been convicted because of the fact he unintentionally caused bodily harm to Mr. Sansweet while rescuing him, which was addressed near the start of this video with the drowning person example.
How about the Delta House hearing in the film Animal House. One exchange between the Deltas: "Don't worry. I'm pre-law." "I thought you were pre-med." "What's the difference?"
I’d be interested to see your reaction to the Brooklyn 99 season 4 finale. It’s a court trial where two of the win characters have been set up by a corrupt cop and are facing 20 years for a string of bank robberies they didn’t commit. It’s a comedy but it’s such a good episode. Also Angel or leverage might be good to review. Angel season 1 has a dodgy law firm as like the villains. They cover up supernatural crimes. And then Leverage is like con artists who get justice for people who the legal system failed by conning corrupt business men and politicians.
@@jenniferlynn120 oh 100%. There is an episode where they have to help someone in court prove they are the rightful heir to this money and stuff. Like season 3ish I think. And harteson pretends to be a lawyer and stuff.
@@Meg_intheclouds : There was an episode in season 1 where Hardison poses as a lawyer to help a widow sue a company whose nutritional products killed her husband. The company tried to tamper with the jury but was outsmarted by Nate and the team.
@@Trevin_Taylor Neither do most of these shows, but it would be interesting to see their arguments examined and why they don't hold up. Also, a number of the videos are just out and out hilarious.
"I know that some guy is driving off with your car and might have a gun, but give me a minute while I go and arrest these people for standing nearby while it was going on because that's TOTALLY more important."
This would be such an awesome video. I feel like there's a broad range of topics he could work with that aren't in the usual rotation of legal show tropes that it would be super interesting.
The Finale episode of Seinfeld, was written, especially the second half with the actual trial, was written as a n overextended series of inside jokes for Seinfeld fans. They brought back a cavalcade of many of the oddball characters on Seinfeld who were somehow wronged by Jerry and the gang. Each new "witness" was another funny memory from the show's nine year run.
@@vaclavjebavy5118 most often it's a situational basis to choose whether or not to continue a car chase. On more open roads and highways, there's less of a problem. but I've seen video of some car chases being deliberately ended because the criminal was driving directly toward a crowded area of town on a holiday weekend.
@@hariman7727 I agree. But even if that was the case, hot pursuit wasn't inevitable. For all we know, the guy could've pulled over and given up. The police officer did nothing to bring down the criminal.
Sam The Guy since most of the reporting happened off-screen, it’s possible the cop called in the report and another officer in the area started a pursuit while he stayed on the scene. Even without the Good Samaritan stuff, it would make sense that the cop would want to secure the four as potential witnesses and make a copy of their video evidence.
Objection. The law (as it is explained in the show) requires them to intervene if it is reasonable to do so. It is unreasonable to expect unarmed untrained civilians to interact with what they believe to be an armed assailant.
Objection!! The lawyer deconstructing this whole thing has missed a vital component of this case's impropriety!! The judges name is van de lay. Already an arch nemesis of the defendants. The judge should have recused from the jump.
@Not me! - Actually he invented it as the name of his employer, for the unemployment check interview. So as far as the state is concerned, George and Art Vandelay have past employment ties and the judge should be recused.
Here in Germany the "duty to rescue" states, that you need to help but should not put yourself in danger. But calling an ambulance/ the police can be asked of you. If you find a person drowning in a pool you at least to need to call for help or else you can be liable if the person drowns.
I love how JC does everything *right*, while representing the most widely known morally and ethically bankrupt lawyer, while the morally right prosecution does everything "wrong".
Yet Jackie Chiles never brings out the fact that the gang videotaped the crime and thus could have provided the police with evidence that would lead to an arrest. Ironically He could spin it as them actually being good Samaritans rather than "guilty bystanders"
@@aidengray3998 If I recall, Mr Incredible got sued by someone who he injured while saving their life. The Good Samaritan law theorectically should have protected him, but it may vary by state.
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Objection you have not yet done The Practice. Your Boston Legal review was awesome!
I love Star Trek. I didn't always like it, but I love it now. I'm trying to watch every episode and movie, but I skip episodes about pregnancy and babies, because I don't want to spend my free time listening to babies whining.
You should do "The Castle", which is an Australian classic comedy film about a man trying to save his house from being bought out from under him.
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Have you ever watched a show or movie, and have taken away something that you use in real life?
That policeman was too lazy to do anything about the carjacking so he just arrested the people closest to him. Chief Wiggum would be proud.
The defense lawyer brought that up. I guess that is one of the jokes. The cop went after easy targets rather than something more dangerous. It would be like a police officer seeing a mugging and a jaywalker at the same time and went after the jaywalker.
Like how Californian politicians go after plastic straws over abnormally large homelessness.
@@Jaxvidstar Apples and oranges. By that logic, every government should only ever focus on one issue at a time.
That officer was Paige's Whitelighter dad from "Charmed"
And Mabel Chote was Old Phoebe from the Charmed episode Three Faces of Phoebe
Kramer actually recorded the thief so we know exactly what he was wearing and WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE so in a way they did help!
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@@donkeyhobo34 simp
@@jeffrydonald3436 you are
@@donkeyhobo34 do you know what a simp is
Simp
The french law mentioned is “Non assistance a personne en danger” and it specifically states that you only have to help or help prevent if it poses no danger whatsoever to yourself. So an armed robbery would not apply.
The Quebec version of the same also stipulates that there's only a duty to intervene if you have appropriate training, too (in other words, if you see somebody drowning you aren't expected to help them unless you're trained as a lifeguard)
In Austria we also have a similar law. It also states that you only need to help if there is no risk to yourself and you can only be expected to have a reasonable response (e.g. if you learned CPR when getting your drivers licence it is not required that you actually use it in an emergency, since you are not trained for high stress situations noone can expect you to do that)
So it basically boils down to "Call an ambulance".
And it is a good law. For mandating you to help and for not mandating you to put yourself in danger. It is not a crazy law that shouldn't even be on the books.
Fun fact: The French law does have a maximum penalty of 5 years and 75000€
No danger to yourself OR another person.
Fun fact: the actor that played Jackie Chiles went to the same barbershop as Johnny Cochran for years which is why he felt so comfortable with his impression, which helped get the role initially on Seinfeld.
Johnny actually wanted Phil to stop doing Jackie, but Phil defied him.
Cochrane was actually cool with it. What caused him to put a stop to it was when Morris was approached by NBC about a "Jackie Chiles" spinoff. Jackie had only appeared in what, five episodes over multiple seasons? I don't know if it would've been a good show or not, but I can see Cochrane's point in not wanting a full series caricaturing him.
Interesting. Nice information to hear
Your explanation of the Good Samaritan law at 4:00 reminds me of the Incredibles. "My client did not ask Mr. Incredible to save him, My client did not want to be saved."
"you don't save my life, you ruin my death"
that part of the Incredibles was set before most of the good samaritan laws were passed
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@@Humbilly Just read through the article, that actually sounds like a good thing. You wouldn't want "I'm sorry for your loss" to be considered an admission of guilt, right?
@@qwertyuiopzxcfgh
Never said it was a bad thing.
Just showing how 'sorry' Canadians can 'sorry' be.
Objection! They filmed the crime! That would help the police find the criminal. How was this not brought up?!
That was something that I had always wondered. They literally caught the crime on camera in the days before photoshop. That could easily been used as evidence to catch the real criminal but that was never discussed.
I think about this everytime I see this episode.
Never saw this episode and I thought it'd be about them trying to confiscate the video but they tried to say no it's private property with all their vacation video on it.
@@shinjig Photoshop is a lot older than you think.
@@MisterMomotaro1996 As a program? No, no it isn't. Video files certainly were no where near as complex or as large as they are today. As evidenced by how people treat even newer videos that are "only" 240p or 480i as "toaster videos".
Back in 98 we were still using "real media" player and encoders. Files sizes and quality on those files encoded on that are absolute shit in comparison today.
Most of my video editing experience came in the early 2000's. Which would be more advanced than what this group of friends from new york would have access to.
just the fact that Kramer recorded the mugging should be enough to count as "helping" because the video evidence of the crime
This is a very a good point. Photographing a criminal in the act is incredibly useful evidence for when the police prosecute the criminal.
yeah but Massachuetts is a two-party consent state, and they didn't get the subjects consent ;)
@@geraldgrenier8132 I thought that only applied when making the video public?
@@marhawkman303 nope it applies to making it at all, hence admissibility
@Jake S that's the relevant question if there is such an exception
The most realistic thing would be that they sentenced Jerry, Elaine, Kramer and George to be the fat guys butler.
Now that would actually be a funny callback.
How dare you call him a fat guy. He's calorie challenged.
🤣🤣🤣
Is this custom in your country?
Fat guy is a famous comedian named John Pinette. Died a while ago, but it's actually a really fun cameo in this episode.
"You don't have to help anybody! That's what this country is all about!"
Yup. Scamville/my trash is out of site out of mind.
Its true and reflects in its whiney inflated society
@@flynnlivescmd Double yup. But it's interesting and maybe helpful to look how it happened. Well-intentioned social media and push notifications have turned into a mechanism that perpetuates the cycle of narcissism by disrupting the pathway between the anterior cingulate gyrus, anterior cingulate sulcus, and amygdala. Now it's spreading to other countries with the Brexiting and stuff. Soon, it will be a worldwide existential threat (ala John B. Calhoun's 'Universe 25' research) unless drastic changes are engineered and implemented in both society and the human genome
In Germany for example, you HAVE to help (at least call the police) or you´d get punished (you don´t have to put yourself in danger)
AllForgottenMemories no you don’t have to help in Germany either... :S you ARE NOT legally obliged to do jack shit, not even call the police. You aren’t insured if you help out of your own accord! Only if someone specifically asks for help you are at least insured, but STILL not obliged to help, you are still allowed to ignore what’s going on.
There is - see herewww.juraforum.de/lexikon/unterlassene-hilfeleistungIn a nutshell, if you don't help if it can reasonably be expected of you to do so, you are violating the law.
Objection: Small town law dictates that you arrest all out of towners and frame them with every unsolved crime in your jurisdiction. See Springfield vs. Steve Sax for more.
Lol great post, I heard their was an unsolved murder up there
Is that a real case?
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I love the idea that in the lore of the show, unarmed civilians have a duty to attack and subdue an armed man stealing a car, but the officer responding has no real need to follow up on the getaway.
Numerous sources claim that the protagonists are somehow bad people, but all I see is a group of friends with various personality disorders trying to function in a world gone mad.
I always thought that the defense could have argued that "helping" comes in many forms and that by recording the hijacking, these four were creating evidence that could help find and convict that car thief. Plus, as you said, the hijacker was posturing as though he had a gun, making it unreasonable to be required to help directly.
I would have stated that “you can’t use past character events to judge them now, besides your using it to try to play with the judge and jury’s emotions which would in turn make a decision based on emotions rather than logic and law.”
The recording is actually a really good point. They did indeed help. Not preventing the crime, but identifying the criminal.
The entire premise of the trial was just an excuse to bring in a lot of the minor characters the foursome wronged over the years. It wasn't really meant to be taken seriously.
Yes. Great point!
I guess part of the humor is that it didn't even occur to them to offer any form of help even though they were witnesses with the whole thing on video.
The character questioning is literally the whole point, to review so many hilarious characters, remind us how horrible they really were and end with the ultimate karma. I don't Theron anyone expected it to be realistic.
Objection!
You left out the Soup Nazi’s testimony.
NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!
He doesn't know who he is, probably.
Nope, 23:30. Not the trial, but still mentioned him.
@@Jar0fMay0 ...COME BACK ONE YEAR... BY THEN, JERRY AND OTHERS SHOULD BE OUT!!!
I haven't watched the video yet but this is a valid and troubling objection if true.
You missed out on the biggest thing: The cop is visible through the reflection of the window during the whole robbery. He was there and saw everything. Watch the scene.
LMFAO IT BAFFLES ME THIS WASNT BROUGHT UP
@@billyalarie929 Basically nobody has noticed this.
Remember we were watching this on 25" TVs in the living room in the 90s, so basically 480p resolution lol
@@RidgeR5 The correct answer.
"But we can see it on 17" computer screen, surely fans would've noticed this detail too?"
Maybe, at best, they had a blurry suspicion. It's all about resolution. Seinfeld had the foresight to record the show on actual film, which was more expensive than the standard VHS recording tapes of that time. A roll of film, which is composed of silver halide crystals emulsed in gelatin, can be processed from Standard Definition (think VHS quality) all the way to IMAX / 8K. For comparison, check out a 90s show that did skimped on using film: Home Improvement (Sorry AL 😅)
It's obviously a mistake, though, since the way he's reflected he seems to be closer to the building, but when he walks up to the victim he was clearly on the other side of the incident. Why the actor was close enough to be reflected during filming is a good question, though.
Actor Phil Morris' portrayal of Cochrane was so accurate partially because he knew Cochrane personally, they went to the same barber for years
That's a story I'd like to see dramatised. Two dudes sat at a barbers trying not to discuss a case but hinting heavily. One of the dudes taking acting notes. Hard cut - Seinfeld episode being shot.
Despite missing it because he didn't watch the show. That Art Vandelay joke was probably the best joke of the entire series. It was a callback to entire arcs
Seinfeld had an earlier episode where Kramer and Jamie Childs sue a coffee company and Kramer nearly wins, if you're willing to look into it.
ckelcro there were a few jackie child’s episodes, there was also one where kramer sues the tobacco companies
'Who told you to put the balm on? Did I tell you to to put the balm on?'
That’s exactly what I was hoping for.
I thought he actually "won" in that he settled with them for free coffee for life, against Jackie Chiles's advice.
@@jeffc5974 That's what happened.
I definitely would ask for a retrial because their lawyer Jackie Childs was sleeping with one of the character witnesses.
what
I have a feeling there's a really funny reasoning behind this joke, I just have no idea what it is.
They're real and they're sensational!
@@JimmyNotes BTW, they're real and spectacular!
@@MarinosHindkjrwho? Courteney Cox Arquette?
@@vanessab2392 no. They are fake.
The Sheriff said it was a COUNTY law, now the District Attorney says it's a CITY law. So, which is it? And how does it align with STATE law? Because the episode clearly stipulates that it isn't a MASSACHUSETTS' law.
And wouldn't any conviction under a law passed by a state/county/municipal law be shredded by a Constitutional appeal immediately?
@@albertannationalist Absolutely. The U.S. Constitution reigns supreme . . . here in the U.S.. Thank God.
@@SamN234 Bill of Rights issues, which Sunday shopping is not and gun control is, are treated as very different kettles of fish.
@@SamN234 As has been covered by LegalEagle in previous videos, many of the Founders felt that there were other freedoms that the people would have protected that were not specifically enumerated in the Constitution. The Ninth Amendment was written specifically for this, stating that "the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Essentially, even if it's not specifically stated in the Constitution, there are rights that can be inferred - privacy is the most popular example of this. It was never expressly stated that we have a right to privacy, but with provisions such as the freedom from unlaw searches and seizures, it can be understood that privacy is an inherent but unwritten right of the people, and no law can violate it.
So as it was ruled that the police do not have a constitutional duty to protect, it can also be assumed that no person has a duty to protect or intervene for anyone else. There might be some exceptions to that, such as parents and their children, but you cannot be compelled to take action to intervene for any random person by any state or local law, because it would violate certain rights held, but not necessarily enumerated, within the Constitution. And the fact that there is precedent that police officers do not have a duty to help, any federal court would be bound by the Supreme Court's ruling and overturn the conviction. If it then went to the Supreme Court, it would be absurd to decide that regular citizens have a duty to intervene and help when police officers do not.
I love how the part of this episode that was probably supposed to seem the most ridiculous (Jackie Childs) is actually the most legally accurate.
Objection!
Their lawyer should have made the argument that with this being an armed robbery, no reasonable action could have been taken without the defendants endangering themselves. As such, the act of videoing the incident to ensure that evidence existed to catch and convict the real criminal was in line with this fictitious law.
Prosecution would argue that there is no proof of a gun and that four of them attacking the guy in the back would be perfectly safe anyway. Not sure it would go much better.
Interesting point. If the defense could demonstrate that there was reason to believe they'd be in danger for intervening, then they would have been complying with the law. However, I think the video they made could work against them. They were relatively calm and were making fun of the victim. Is that the way you'd behave if you thought you were in danger?
@@randomstuff-qu7sh Perhaps... but it also shows that they were doing 'something' to try and help (take a video recording to help catch the perpetrator later). I feel as though their lawyer somewhat failed them here since, instead of arguing within the confines of the law, he argued that the law was wrong (which it was, but you aren't going to win many cases this way).
It also shows that a nearby police officer did nothing to stop the robbery... if a police officer is nearby, why would anybody have a civic duty to do the police officer's job for them if they should have had it under control?
This whole scenario is so absurd it seems impossible to me to speculate about it. I mean, it's hard to say "they can't do this" or "they couldn't have done that" when the entire situation is something that in reality couldn't have happened.
So you can insert just about any insane argument and decide it would or wouldn't work and it's all equally plausible (or implausible rather)
@@meneldal but then they could argue that he had his hand in his pocket in a suspicious way that could lead to them believing he had a weapon
The rules of Seinfeld are as follows:
Seinfeld and co. are always wrong no matter what
When they disagree, they are both wrong.
Pretty much all of Larry David's shows are like that
yeah i don't even get what the character witnesses were accusing them of sometimes. "They stopped... masturbating! Throw them in jail!"
@@284mbp that one wasnt a character flaw it was random trivia.
@@284mbp You would have thought a backwater middle-of-nowhere town would have approved of no masturbation
20:44 OBJECTION! Even under the law as it's laid out, they are not guilty. It was said that they're obligated to help when it's reasonable to do so. Is it reasonable to ask four untrained and unarmed civilians to stop a carjacker (presumably) armed with a pistol?
An additional argument could be made that they helped to the best of their ability by getting video evidence of the carjacking.
Exactly; even if this law held up, they could have endangered their lives (and for that matter, the life of the victim) if they confronted a likely armed criminal. Plus, the fact that they captured evidence of the crime should be argued as assisting law enforcement capture the perpetrator, even if that wasn't their primary motive for doing so.
@@troodon1096 I like this line of defense for sure. It would have been a smart move. As for the motive, it is said "I got to get this on video" (then it's up to interpretation what that means) and the dismissive "fat" joke could have been explained away as compensating for the fear of dealing with -- and bringing assistance to -- someone in a dangerous situation. Of course, that negates the point of the episode, but it does make sense re: a defense. Some of that may have constituted a "good character" defense, which, in turn, could have opened the door for "bad character" evidence.
Even if it was just a knife that would still be really dangerous.
Babu always bugged me because Jerry tried repeatedly to help him. Sure, his help usually ended in disaster, but you can't say he didn't try to help.
@@foxjade8924 I found his restaurant not gaining popularity after being switched to Pakistani actually very unrealistic. New Yorkers LOVE ethnic food, regardless of where they live. It may not have been the most popular Pakistani place, but no way it would've been dead empty.
@@foxjade8924 or the lack of any real caring about the mix up
If your immigration status is murky you have a duty to due diligence, why did Babu not know when was is status expiring. Meh. Jerry was real nice to him.
Babu most have the longest index finger ever recorded.
They really messed up on the Babu case. Jerry actually helped but the show(producers) framed it as him being bad. They were so dead set on convicting him they even presented misleading evidence.
RIP John Pinette (the guy that gets carjacked) I had the good fortune to see his comedy in person, a very funny man, glad I got to meet him.
Nay nay!
"I make my own trail mix now. It's a 2 pound bag of m&ms. AND EVERYBODY WANTS SOME OF MINE!"
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In Germany we actually have a law that obligates you to help people in danger. We call it "unterlassene Hilfeleistung" which translates to "failure to provide assistance" but it has the big point that you wouldnt have to help if you get in danger yourself. But if there is someone drowning in a pool you would be obligated to get them out, call an ambulance and provide first aid. Also you cant be help responsible for damages that you inflict, like broken rips etc
That's kind of a stupid law
@Moist Gnome no, if its dangerous for you, you dont have to help. Your own safety goes first
@@biggreenleaf7035 could you eleborate?
@@larsheim1032 Wow that's pretty interesting - I think it sounds pretty good for "accidents" - like someone falling into a pool - but I assume it doesn't apply in more serious situations like a robbery, right? Because of the implied danger
@@lWantToHearYouSad I study law myself and this is one tricky law to proof. In case of a robbery by gunpoint for example, no one expects you to actively stop the thief by yourself and fight with him because you can get shot or the situation can escalate. But, you can perfectly call the poice or help the victim after the thief leaves. If you witness a robbery and then just leave the victim there without being bothered, then you make yourself responsible for not helping the person as long as you didnt have to expose yourself to danger (which can be avoided by just informing the police) or if it cant be expected of you to bring the help (if you didnt have your phone then you obviously cant make the call). "Helping the victim" in the sense of this law goes beyond actively stopping the thief, there are many ways to help. If you want to read more, the paragraph number is 323c StGB :)
OBJECTION!
All they should have had to do to fulfill their obligation to help would have been to hand over the video tape to identify the carjacker.
Yes. But now that’s not a very good TV show is it?
Legal realism shortcomings aside, the gang going to jail for being overall terrible people was the perfect way to end the series.
Yeah, I don't get why it's hated so much. It's not uproariously funny, but it's a solid ending.
Disagree vehemently because they weren't supposed to be horrible people, they were supposed to be New Yorkers. Seriously.
@@thenerktwinsI guess, then, this a perfect reason not to ever want to visit New York.
@@thenerktwins In the early seasons they were far more normal than later on when they got turned into caricatures. You can see and compare Jerry's apartment early on with how it was towards the end. Also imprisoning someone for not adhering to somewhat subjective morality not mostly objective laws is dangerously close to full blown North Korea. It really is. The producers may not have intended that but they unintentionally sided with Kim.
A law like this (denial of assistance) is existing in Germany. But since the hijacker had (presumably) a gun it doesn't apply. You must not endanger yourself.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the part where their lawyer sleeps with one of the witnesses.
Submit to evidence: "They're real and they're spectacular."
It could be that these clips are assembled for him by his producer, and he didn't know about it.
It was totally improper behaviour, not to mention vaguely libelous against the real Johnny Cochran (who publicly spoke out against this scene), but it was also irrelevant to the main topic of the trial.
EXACTLY! That is such a conflict of interest. That alone could get a mistrial.
@@LadyLexyStarwatcher EXACTLY!...
Objection!
They died in the plane crash and the trial is a summation of their poor character in life, culminating in a Sartre-esque afterlife of being forced into each other's miserable company
nice philosophical thought. But don't tell this interpretation to the real Seinfeld, he'd laugh you out of the room. (from how I judge hom watching interviews )
@@sim1602 nah, it's a pretty widely accepted interpretation
I like this, do they end up on the Lost island?
I'm assuming you mean Sartre? Missing an "r" there buddy.
@@HippopotamusPencil whoops! Thanks for catching that.
My absolute favorite part of this skit is when Jackie you don't have to help anybody, THATS WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS ALL ABOUT" 😂😂😂
Jerry Seinfeld would not give you the time of day in real life
@normjames4130 So? The hell should I care about that for? My crystal ball says you're not getting within a mile of him either
I was walking down the street with my wife when I saw my mother-in-law being beaten up by six men.
My wife said, "Aren't you going to help?"
I said, "Six should be enough."
(c) Les Dawson
Lol
funny
i love how, in attempting to make a parody of comically bad lawyers, they ended up making a pretty good lawyer lol
Johnny Cochran was actually a pretty good lawyer.
@@jeffc5974 I think they use Cochrane as the baseline for those parodies because his most famous client had blatantly gotten away with murder thanks to his counsel.
The drowning person analogy at around the 4 min mark reminds me of The Incredibles and Mr Incredible saving the suicidal guy's and the train full of people's lives but also injuring them. I'd like to see an episode about that scene in The Incredibles
Same
Objection: What the show did is called yada-yada. They yada-yada'd over the legal proceedings.
but you yada-yadad the best part.
@@ashokthapa5180 No, I mentioned the bisque! 😂
The Seinfeld finale is clearly inspired by the French "duty to rescue" law (Non-assistance à personne en danger): the maximum sentence is a copy-paste: 5 years and 75'000 Euros (500'000 FRF back then; prior to the EUR introduction). The show mentions that this law came to be after the Princess Diana car crash, but this is a misunderstanding. The paparazzo who were standing by taking pictures of dying people instead of calling emergency services were indicted and tried (however I don't believe that they were actually sentenced); which certainly caught the show-writers attention. But the law has existed since WWII.
This law only applies if you are aware of someone being in immediate danger of injury and/or death, can act to help this person without putting yourself in danger and do nothing. To take the classic stranger drowning in a pool example, if you don't know how to swim or you're 90 years old you can't be held responsible for not jumping in the pool to get that person out. But if a kid is drowning, while his mother is screaming that she can't swim and need help, while you're an Olympic swimmer but just decide not get in the pool because it would ruin your make-up, you're clearly violating this law.
Also, you don't have to be physically present for "duty to rescue" to be applicable. Say that you log-on social media and see that one of your classmate that you dislike (you know the name and address) is live streaming his suicide attempt, instead of dialing 911 you grab some pop-corns and send texts messages to your buddies to watch it with you, that's a failure to help (should have called 911). That being said, the situation depicted in the episode would be very unlikely to be a "duty to rescue" case. The bystanders had no way to know if the robber had a real gun in his pocket or was simply pointing his fingers. Seinfeld could be blamed for not dialing 911, but given that police was already on the spot in a minute this had no impact.
It's interesting to note that this law is not just about giving penalties for not rescuing, but it can also shields the helper: as for the Good Samaritan law described by LE (can't be help responsible if the person got injured while you saved her life) and it can excuse breaching professional secret if it relates to a crime against a minor or someone incapacitated (any professionals who are aware of child abuse, for example, can notify authorities regardless if they learnt about it in a way normally covered by professional secret).
And just for the record, in my book, it's a good law. Choosing to let someone die that you could easily save is no different than actively killing this person.
@yossarian Pfft.
In France you might go to jail regardless.
If you just stood there, you didn't rescue, so you can be sentenced.
If you so much as punch the aggressor, you can be sentenced for assault.
Hell, you can get sent in front of a judge for helping refugees, while the police is given orders to slash their tents.
Also exists in germany, and I think actually all "french napoleon code" countrys. and its very good to be honest
I think it all comes down to the law, which states you should help if it’s reasonable to do so. The car jacket had a firearm (or, at least, gave the impression that he had one). If Seinfeld and company had interfered in any way, they would be putting their lives at risk. Therefore, by the wording of this very law, they are innocent so it wouldn’t be reasonable to intervene. Jackie Chiles could also make an argument that they captured footage of the car jacker, which is actually helpful.
Obviously, this is all just for show since it’s a comedy. However, I would’ve enjoyed the finale more if they got off scot free and continued to be horrible people. If anything, it would be another middle finger to the dozens of people they negatively affected in their lifetime.
@yossarian A lot of people see not stopping crimes as a citizen as being lazy or selfish. But, most citizens are not trained to deal with those situations. The most likely outcome is an intervening citizen to elevate the threat level and cause more harm than good.
If someone's getting robbed, you let them get robbed. If you so much as surprise the robber you could cause them to severely injure the other person.
If you see someone getting beat up by a handful of people and you are sure you can't win; run and get help. You getting beat next to them doesn't help them.
Sometimes the best thing you can do is run and get help, or just do nothing at all.
And if you can help then we have a law to protect you as you're being a good Samaritan.
@yossarian It's also a sitcom and not real life
I didn't see anyone bring up the fact that a municipality/county can't pass a law and make it a felony. That is only the prerogative of the state or federal governments.
I just realize that myself. This would have been a trial in JP Court and a fine at most.
Its Amerika. As long as you have a tree and a rope and the judge is your good cousin...
For the love of God, react to To Kill a Mockingbird!
Do your duty
Or "Witness for the Prosecution".
But that says a BAAAAAAD word
PLEASE!
In france it is called "non-assistance à personne en danger" and is a real thing but this trial wont even stand because you don't have to help is you have to put yourself in danger too !
Same in Italy, "Omissione di Soccorso"; it's like, if somebody is badly hurt and in need of assistance, you can't just walk away, you have to call an ambulance or something
Same in Austria "Unterlassene Hilfeleistung" . It does not apply if there is a personal risk in helping tough like in this case.
Other Seinfeld episodes for the LegalEagle: The Ticket (S4E4), The Maestro (S7E3), The Caddy (S7E12), The Abstinence (S8E9)
Please do these ones too LegalEagle!!
LegalEagle should do The Library... he might have to bring in an expert on Library Law.
@@culwin The Library doesn't feature much actual 'law' though. It's more just a take on how police work which while related to law isn't actually about practicing law.
@@Friendlysociopath A rare fail on the part of Seinfeld. They should have had a scene in the Library Court System.
Objection: You should give it a D or D- since a good lawyer would not be sleeping with the prosecution's witness during trial and potentially throwing the case. One of the last scenes revealed that the lawyer was romantically involved with the character portrayed by Terri Hatcher.
True but who wouldn't sleep with Teri Hatcher? Or the heiress to the OhHenry candy bar fortune?
A morally good lawyer might not but a lawyer who’s desperate to do his job well....
Objection. The prosecution was using the word "character" in a literary sense. He showcased a cavalcade of "characters" from the history of Seinfield. Therefore the use of Character Witnesses wasn't improper... in a literary/showmaking sense.
I think your example of being protected by a good Samaritan law while giving CPR was the best one. Even trained paramedics can easily damage ribs (bruising, fracturing or straight up breaking them) during the chest compressions. We were told about this when I did my first aid training as part of my nursing course. It makes sense, you are pushing hard on their chest at a rate of 100 times per minute. Thankfully, we can't be sued for it in the UK either. Broken ribs are a small price to pay if it means saving your life, after all.
I always hated this episode... You can't FORCE someone to endanger themselves to help someone else.
also the sheriff who quotes the law says they had to help "If it is reasonable to do so", in the case of 4 unarmed people vs a possibly armed one, it is quite unreasonable to expect them to intervene.
Counter to that they didn't make an effort to call the police(despite making a phone call) and used their camera to record the event but only because they thought it was funny and didn't offer said video to the cops to help find the criminal.
They clearly had no reason for thinking it was dangerous to record or make a phone call so there's no reason they couldn't help.
scragar A police officer was within view (considering the time it took for him to talk to the victim and arrest them - almost immediately after the crime). Really, as he said, the officer should have called backup or apprehended the criminal earlier. t
Also, is it a crime to find something funny? Is it worthy of a year in prison?They were exercising free speech and the fact that they plausibly only filmed for their entertainment is character evidence that should not be admissible. Also, calling the police would have changed nothing. They couldn’t have arrived before the actual criminal was well escaped considering the crime was so brief.
@Skobo Do In legal sense, it falls on the line that what they didn't wasn't moral, but it shouldn't be legally criminal. I lay terms, they were d***s, but being a d*** is not a criminal offense.
@Skobo Do true in its legal system by legal system case. The case still stands that being rude or insensitive is not a criminal act so long as your following the legal requirements of your given system. I.e in Germany calling the cops would be required, but polite to the person robbed isn't. Being not a nice person isn't a crime in and of it's self. Basically just stating that character behavior is not taken into account for these laws so long as the law is being followed. In America that means no obligation, and in places like Germany that assistance of some kind is attempted. In a realistic scenario all they might need to avoid penalty is to hand over the video recording do to how quickly law enforcement came. Moral character is not a factor, only the law and base requirements in following it. Still doesn't mean that the Seinfeld group wasn't jerks during it, just that it's not a deciding factor on the legal side.
In Denmark we have a law that makes it illegal to leave people "in a helpless state". Which for example means that if you find a person that is unconcious and hurt, you must call an ambulance and you must stay with them until help arrives. If you have first aid training you are further obligated to use it to for example give CPR. I kind of like that law.
Yeah, I believe germany has a similar. You're obligated to do at least the minimum of like calling for help
"Unterlassene Hilfeleistung"
We have the same law in Germany. If you don`t endanger yourself, you have to help. I think it is a good thing. Here noone would expect them to help, as the perpetrator has a weapon.
Objection! At 3:18 the police officer clearly says that bystanders are legally obligated to help a person in danger "when its reasonable to do so." So even assuming this BS law was real and enforceable, there is no way a judge would agree that trying to intervene in an ARMED ROBBERY would be a reasonable situation. On top of that, Kramer did one of the few things that WOULD be considered reasonable in that situation by filming the act. It might not help the victim immediately, but it certainly would aid the police in finding the culprit.
What a frustrating episode
I think an A++ legal representation in this manner would still be a frustrating episode.
Didn't Seinfeld have humourous scenes once upon a time?
I agree that the cops should not have shown up immediately, but the Seinfeld gang should have went on their way to get a burger or something and then the cops should have came for them there. In this way, it would have been easier to build an argument that they should have at least called the cops and they didn't.
He stated "unless it was unreasonable to do so" The criminal was motioning that he had a weapon. They had no obligation due to unsafe criminal conditions.
Sounds like some 1984 bullsh!t.
The fact that the carjacker was armed or appeared to be armed would nullify any good samaritan laws.
You mean a duty to rescue law, and no, it would not nullify the law; the bystanders would be required to call 911 once having retreated to safety. In most countries where a duty to rescue law exists, all that such a law requires when the situation would put the rescuer in danger is that they call emergency services.
@@lemax6865 why bother in this case? The cop was walking by and stopped by the victim.
@@sonicrush44 In the specific fictitious case presented in the episode, yes. But I was making a broader statement, that being that duty to rescue laws, in places that have them, are not usually ''nullified'' when there is an armed criminal present. The law is still in effect, but it only requires the bystander to call the police if able.
Even if he wasn't armed, he could be a great fighter or something.
They should still have found a way to call the police instead of standing around laughing about the whole thing. One of them could have gone to find a police officer or something--pretty easy, since one was obviously close by.
Two minutes in. "Kinda crappy things to say..." (swell in laughtrack)
Perfect timing! :-D
@kragseven The DVD commentaries include them frequently pointing out that one of the actors, who isn't in the scene, can be heard laughing along with the audience. I think that's pretty fantastic ^_^
The case here reminds me of an incident I saw in the news a year or so ago in I believe Florida- a group of teenagers mocked and jeered at a drowning man, recording his death and posting it online for their friends to watch, but made no attempt to assist or call for help. Ultimately the state was so incensed by their complete lack of empathy that, despite not having any laws conferring a duty to rescue, they found law that could be leveled at them- failure to report a body. I also recall that there was some talk of passing new law that would put a duty to rescue, or to at least contact authorities, in such an event, though I don't know if it has, or will, pass.
I marathon watch Seinfeld and Curb your Enthusiasm during quarantine , the line” why would we want to help people , that’s for nuns and Red Cross “ that is a very Larry David thing to say
Speaking of Johnny C. can you get into how south park created the term "wookie defense" and how people have used it in real law.
Edit it's called "chewbacca defense"
He has mentioned this in a previous video I’m pretty sure.
He talked about it in Real Lawyer Reacts to Reynolds v. Reynolds (Cereal Defense) It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia 16:30
@@codingmedium2283 not all heros wear capes! Thanks
@didrik mortensen it was a joke, oh how he talked shit that didn't make any sense to the case. South park just kinda put a name to it. So when a lawyer starts pulling some shit like that, they have a name for it
He just did one, great video.
Objection! You missed the fact that Jackie immediately goes off with Teri Hatcher's character (and we see them in bed during the jury deliberation) could be a mis-trial due to conflict of interest ... right?
In Australia, for as long as I can remember, there is a version of the "duty to assist" law in relation to motor vehicles. If you are involved in an accident, you must stop and render assistance to anybody who might need it. People get charged with violating this law all the time - even though they are genuinely in fear of their safety from the angry reactions from others at the scene of the accident.
Jackie failed because he should have argued that the law was unconstitutional. The character witnesses should not have been allowed. They seem to have been convicted of past alleged wrongdoings.
He dropped the ball
you can't argue that at trial
“It’s a show about nothing”. Cartoonish. Yep, that’s what Seinfeld was... a live action cartoon that relished in the ridiculousness of its characters. The parade of witnesses was a nostalgic look back at previous episodes and a little payback for those people who the stars of the show had wronged over the years.
However, the true travesty of justice surrounding this show centers around the real life actors and their contracts. Jerry’s contract set him up for life, where he pulls in hundreds of millions of dollars in residuals whereas the other three effectively get nothing. They tried to re-negotiate at some point during the last couple seasons but were summarily rejected by the show’s producers.. including Jerry himself!
Julia has since moved on to various projects and is the lead character on the show Veep, where she has won several Emmys. Jason Alexander still shows up in movies and t.v. shows once in a while but never actually won an Emmy for his role on Seinfeld. Finally, Michael Richards committed career suicide when recordings of him making racial slurs went viral and he has since all but clumsily fallen off the face of the Earth in Kramer-like fashion.
How much you reckon Larry David makes from residuals?
Don't worry about Julia she inherited millions before Seinfeld ever started. Jason does Broadway he has stayed working. Michael deserves what happened. But he gets some money from his forgettable movies disorder in the court and UHF as well as Airheads. He also had a series about him as a Kramer like PI. So if he saved his money he may be ok.
@@walterzimmerman5028 actually the black guy was heckling him during the whole performance and had earned the tirade Richards directed at him. Look up how George Carlin would handle hecklers. The guy heckling Richards got off easy compared to one guy that heckled Carlin in the seventies.
@@barneynedward Yeah, Richards probably would be fine if he hadn't included certain words in that tirade.
When I was a young lad in the boy scouts, I took a merit badge associated with law, which was actually taught by trial lawyers. They gave me a nugget of wisdom that A) maybe they shouldn't have and B) stuck with me for years anyway.
"Being an asshole isn't illegal."
Ahh Seinfeld, a classic anime.
Top Ten Seinfeld Betrayals
Classic theme
"The prosecution calls Frodo to the stand."
"Objection! Frodo is from Middle Earth, and has no bearing on this case!"
"The prosecution has gone to great lengths and considerable costs to find this individual."
"Objection overruled."
Objection!
Why is there no mention of the co-ed jail? That would never happen.
it is a temporary holding cell not an overnight cell
They still wouldn't put men and women together
There are some, but very few.
Pretty sure that’s the only cell
Really small town 1 police Dept with a drunk tank? I bet everyone knew the carjacker if the video was made public and tracked him down quickly.
could you cover Jan vs Dunder Mifflin in The Office?
One of my favorite scenes on The Office is in that episode when Michael says, "that's what she says," and they ask "what did she say," and then they have to read that part of the conversation back
yeah that stenographer bit was the bomb
Yes! I’ve been asking for the “Deposition” episode forever!
I like ice cream, so sue me.
Actually don't, she WILL sue me!😂😂
@@mr7oclock346 They shouldn't care what she said. That's heresay ;)
The biblical Good Samaritan was good because he helped when he was under no obligation to do so.
I thought it was implying that Samaritans were generally dicks, that's why a good Samaritan was so notable.
Tony Hart That is part of the reason as well :)
@@ashleyjames6740 less because samaritans were dicks but because there was a strong divide between groups.
imagine a black guy saving a kkk member from a burning house or something.
@@94Newbie yikes
@@94Newbie That's about how the parable would go today.
The way this episode went down ALWAYS bothered me. Thank you SO MUCH for making sense of this, it actually makes me feel a TON better about the finale…gives me a weird sense of closure lol
You mean ... you didn't understand the Seinfield finale, but now you do? After a straight analysis of the law of the episode, which was non-sensical? One has NOTHING to do with (or explain) the other. You can't really explain humor - either you get it or you don't.
@@emanuelmota7217 making sense of nonsensical things is one of the best things about the Internet, and humanity in general. Yeah I thought the Seinfeld finale was funny, but it also felt like a really abrupt ending- even for a show about nothing.
RIP John Pinette. An amazing comedian, and a good person.
So basically this whole episode is if social media ran a courtroom.
Instead of deliberating whether or not a crime was committed, this is just a court of public opinion and drama where they punish you for saying naughty things.
Coming soon unless we keep fighting sjws
Yeah, we're not too far from that actually. You think TV judges are bad, they're about to start spreading (not manspreading, go preach elsewhere) to places we don't want them to.
Lol
@@theguywhowentthere3346 guilty in the court of public opinion and feelings.
I will admit disappointment in the finale because it was pretty boring. But the very very end, with our quartet in jail? Absolutely the perfect ending for the characters. It was a pretty logical conclusion to the series.
Mr. Incredible needed the Good Samaritan Law.
Except he still probably would have been convicted because of the fact he unintentionally caused bodily harm to Mr. Sansweet while rescuing him, which was addressed near the start of this video with the drowning person example.
You made one of the most entertaining finales in TV history more entertaining. Thank you
Indifference laws do exist in South Africa. They don't quite work like this though.
For the record, I'm not a lawyer. I merely work with offenders.
Could you please review The Three Stooges Disorder in the Court (1936)?
I second this.
Third
I fourth this!! Yes do the three stooges legal analysis!!!!!!!!
Fifth!!!
Woo woo woo woo woo nyuk nyuk nyuk I agree.
How about the Delta House hearing in the film Animal House.
One exchange between the Deltas:
"Don't worry. I'm pre-law."
"I thought you were pre-med."
"What's the difference?"
These days it would "I'm pre-med but seeing my shrink at the end of the week, so who knows what happens after that."
I’d be interested to see your reaction to the Brooklyn 99 season 4 finale. It’s a court trial where two of the win characters have been set up by a corrupt cop and are facing 20 years for a string of bank robberies they didn’t commit. It’s a comedy but it’s such a good episode.
Also Angel or leverage might be good to review. Angel season 1 has a dodgy law firm as like the villains. They cover up supernatural crimes. And then Leverage is like con artists who get justice for people who the legal system failed by conning corrupt business men and politicians.
also Silicon Valley has s great trial scene
I loved the show Leverage. Not sure what could be said about it but I sure would watch if there was relevant material! Such a good show
@@jenniferlynn120 oh 100%. There is an episode where they have to help someone in court prove they are the rightful heir to this money and stuff. Like season 3ish I think. And harteson pretends to be a lawyer and stuff.
@@Meg_intheclouds : There was an episode in season 1 where Hardison poses as a lawyer to help a widow sue a company whose nutritional products killed her husband. The company tried to tamper with the jury but was outsmarted by Nate and the team.
You should do a Real Law Review of ‘Sovereign Citizens’
There’s nothing to review. They have no basis in law.
I'd like to see that
That is a great Idea since sovereigns put such value into "RUclips" law.
@@Trevin_Taylor Neither do most of these shows, but it would be interesting to see their arguments examined and why they don't hold up. Also, a number of the videos are just out and out hilarious.
Soverign citizens are moops
Objection! That crime happened in Stars Hollow! I would recognize this gazebo anywhere!
Thanks for doing this. Great video. Really wanted to see your take on this episode.
RIP John Pinette, you will be sorely missed
A very funny, charismatic man.
If you don’t get “improper character” merch I will be so disappointed
I love that the Jonathan Frakes footage is from "Beyond Belief."
According to my high school you can be a guilty bystander
Highschools are mini dictatorships. That's why everybody is always excited to graduate as early as possible.
hit em with legal facts
School is a prision if you don't know how to escape it
Objection! You failed to show and discuss the testimony of the "low talker" and its effect on the trial.
You did the first episode of Better Call Saul. You should do a video of the hearing that happens in season 3, episode 5 of the show.
"I know that some guy is driving off with your car and might have a gun, but give me a minute while I go and arrest these people for standing nearby while it was going on because that's TOTALLY more important."
Can't wait to see your take on the trial of Tim Heidecker!
I hope he delves into the Chinese connection
Yes, this one.
I keep hoping there will be a review of that 6 part series as well.
The delgados have ruined an amazing franchise in on cinema at the cinema! Nobody cares about those dead kids. Bring back on cinema!
This would be such an awesome video. I feel like there's a broad range of topics he could work with that aren't in the usual rotation of legal show tropes that it would be super interesting.
The Finale episode of Seinfeld, was written, especially the second half with the actual trial, was written as a n overextended series of inside jokes for Seinfeld fans. They brought back a cavalcade of many of the oddball characters on Seinfeld who were somehow wronged by Jerry and the gang. Each new "witness" was another funny memory from the show's nine year run.
I'm just here to pay my respects to John Pinette. Rest in peace, big guy. Hope you're enjoying that buffet upstairs.
Also, in honor of Jackie Chiles, "This is the most public of my many humiliations!"
Objection
2:28
Some police departments dont allow car chases as some of them can cause further damage and deaths
Which departments are these? It seems a bit silly to ban all pursuits.
@@vaclavjebavy5118 most often it's a situational basis to choose whether or not to continue a car chase.
On more open roads and highways, there's less of a problem.
but I've seen video of some car chases being deliberately ended because the criminal was driving directly toward a crowded area of town on a holiday weekend.
@@hariman7727 I agree. But even if that was the case, hot pursuit wasn't inevitable. For all we know, the guy could've pulled over and given up. The police officer did nothing to bring down the criminal.
@@vaclavjebavy5118 yep. It's rather contrived.
Sam The Guy since most of the reporting happened off-screen, it’s possible the cop called in the report and another officer in the area started a pursuit while he stayed on the scene. Even without the Good Samaritan stuff, it would make sense that the cop would want to secure the four as potential witnesses and make a copy of their video evidence.
Objection. The law (as it is explained in the show) requires them to intervene if it is reasonable to do so. It is unreasonable to expect unarmed untrained civilians to interact with what they believe to be an armed assailant.
Another episode you should do is from The Flash which is called “The Trial of The Flash.” It is season 4 episode 10 of the show.
Okay you've got our attention. I think it's time to react to one of the most famous lawyers in the history of fiction.
React to To Kill a Mockingbird
I’he been waiting forever for that one
Witness for the Prosecution
Objection!! The lawyer deconstructing this whole thing has missed a vital component of this case's impropriety!! The judges name is van de lay. Already an arch nemesis of the defendants.
The judge should have recused from the jump.
@Not me! - Actually he invented it as the name of his employer, for the unemployment check interview. So as far as the state is concerned, George and Art Vandelay have past employment ties and the judge should be recused.
"Burt Harbinson"? C'mon, that sounds made up.
Here in Germany the "duty to rescue" states, that you need to help but should not put yourself in danger. But calling an ambulance/ the police can be asked of you. If you find a person drowning in a pool you at least to need to call for help or else you can be liable if the person drowns.
I'm curious on your reaction to Battlestar Galactica: (S3:E19) Crossroads, Part 1 (trial of Gaius Baltar)
You should do the Trial of Frank Castle from Daredevil season 2, on Netflix.
Yes! actually Daredevil series as a whole too, Kingpin trials are also super interesting.
yes do more cartoon based legal analysis!!!!!!!!!!!
He did it!
@@sweetbabyrodney HE IS INNOCENT>
The Fat Guy was John Pinette a very funny guy, he left us too soon.
😔 yes he was such a great comedian 🙍🏾♀️
I love how JC does everything *right*, while representing the most widely known morally and ethically bankrupt lawyer, while the morally right prosecution does everything "wrong".
Yet Jackie Chiles never brings out the fact that the gang videotaped the crime and thus could have provided the police with evidence that would lead to an arrest. Ironically He could spin it as them actually being good Samaritans rather than "guilty bystanders"
If the gang hadn't recorded it, there wouldn't be concrete evidence of who the thief was. Doesn't that mean anything to the police/the judge?
Obviously not, because the defense attorney brought that up.
Ok, do a real lawyer reacts to "A Civil Action" legal movie starring John Travolta
Seconded. Loved that movie. Made me conscious of environmental issues as a kid.
Kal Did you know "A Civil Action" is a true story? As I recall, Jan Schlichtmann went broke on that case. Seems to be on his feet now, however.
@@thehand756 yes, I live in MA
@@thehand756 - "Ma'am...you're looking at three broke guys right now."
Woo kid here, they have actually built a food plaza on the site of the spill...chick fila and red robin I shit you not!
So, Good Samaritan Law would have protected Mr Incredible and the other Supers.
Exactly what I was thinking Bill Parr should be pissed
Well, not really. He's not a good Samaritan, he's a vigilante, which there are laws against.
In brief No because he goes out looking for crime to stop.
Not once the laws were passed prohibiting them from acting.
@@aidengray3998 If I recall, Mr Incredible got sued by someone who he injured while saving their life. The Good Samaritan law theorectically should have protected him, but it may vary by state.