FIVE YEARS on ye olde Ozark commune

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  • Опубликовано: 24 янв 2023

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  • @matthewwolcott5984
    @matthewwolcott5984 10 дней назад +1

    You're a smart guy, and respect to you for working to make the commune a better place.

  • @EastWindCommunity1973
    @EastWindCommunity1973  Год назад +5

    Four and half years living on the farm, five calendar years. I apologize for the clickbait title.

  • @essliedavis
    @essliedavis Год назад +5

    Sumner, really enjoyed finally hearing your perspective. I think it’s wise you waited to make this video - there’s a lot to say! This is YOUR truth and what you’ve taken from this experience is invaluable. Very incredible what you did for the business and livelihood of those there. Hopefully they keep it up!

    • @EastWindCommunity1973
      @EastWindCommunity1973  Год назад +3

      Thanks, Esslie! You are one of the people I miss getting to see, keep the Ozarks vibin'! =)

    • @essliedavis
      @essliedavis Год назад +3

      @@EastWindCommunity1973 miss seeing you, too! I think you hit the nail realizing that your grief was playing out all kinds of ways. I think it deserves more acknowledgment than you gave. Your journey back to yourself is an honor to any mother. I can only imagine your passion was something she admired in you 💖

  • @EastWindCommunity1973
    @EastWindCommunity1973  Год назад +5

    In the immortal words of builder Carlos: "East Wind is a great place to grow up."
    (he lived there from age 20 to 40)

    • @ardalla535
      @ardalla535 Год назад +2

      If by 'growing up' you mean 'disavowed of your illusions'.

    • @ronrocheleau3035
      @ronrocheleau3035 Год назад

      @@ardalla535 What do you mean by “Disavowed of your illusions”?

  • @fredrauh66
    @fredrauh66 4 месяца назад +1

    Hello, I actually have my visit set up at eastwind thanks to your videos.

  • @madmouseinjapan
    @madmouseinjapan Год назад +5

    Sumner, Thank you for all this content. I actually wrote to Eastwind in college and received a bunch of their literature and new member info. Life took me in another direction but these videos feel like a chance to explore the untaken path. I appreciate the candor and honesty of all the participants. I still have an interest in communal living and the frankness about everything that worked and was difficult brings up a lot of thoughtful reflection. Amazing work. This video with your personal reflection was really great.

    • @EastWindCommunity1973
      @EastWindCommunity1973  Год назад +3

      Thanks, really appreciate hearing that! Japan is my next destination. Maybe I'll get to visit the Konohana Family!

  • @danielhart4588
    @danielhart4588 Год назад +2

    Thanks Sumner. I really enjoyed this self inquiry and all of the videos on your channel. Wishing you the best in your future endeavors. Appreciate the work you put into this channel.

  • @jhill0623
    @jhill0623 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sumner, phenomenal job thank you for sharing this content. I deeply appreciate it.

  • @MsPoliteRants
    @MsPoliteRants Год назад +3

    “That’s a great question, Ayn Rand”. 🤣🤣
    I would imagine it’s difficult to contribute nothing when there’s no social media to mindlessly scroll through for hours

    • @EastWindCommunity1973
      @EastWindCommunity1973  Год назад +3

      There is still social media and internet access, however there is more social pressure to not be on your phone while socializing, not hole up in your room, etc.

  • @aaronhankins1509
    @aaronhankins1509 Год назад +4

    Thank you for sharing! I've been asking on a few different videos when we will get to hear your story and I am so happy to watch this, definitely worth the wait. I truly appreciate how raw you were about the good, the bad, and the ugly. I was also happy to hear that bit about having a girlfriend AND a boyfriend, as you are a very attractive person inside and out so it is nice to know you love all.
    Through your interviews I feel like I got to vicariously live on a commune. It's an experience I wish I got to experience in my early to mid twenties like you did. Towards the beginning of my journey watching these videos, I actually started to consider joining East Wind (or the like) and did some research. Ultimately, I couldn't get past the fear of the unknown, especially now that I am more "successful" in the wheel that is capitalism.
    Now my time is spent on what state to move that will be more resilient in regards to climate change in the years to come, as Texas is not it.
    I'll end this with one more statement and a question. I wish you the best in life, as you seem like such a good, genuine person that deserves the best. And with your comment towards the end of yearning for a more purposeful culture, anything on the horizon to pursue that yearning?

    • @EastWindCommunity1973
      @EastWindCommunity1973  Год назад +2

      I had just typed out a nice response and poof RUclips wiped it somehow. I will respond later tonight, once I get off work. Thank you for sharing and I'm glad that you have enjoyed the various interviews.

    • @EastWindCommunity1973
      @EastWindCommunity1973  Год назад +7

      Hey Aaron,
      Once again, thanks for the thoughtful post. At 32, I now find myself in getting tied up "in the wheel of capitalism" as you put it. Since leaving East Wind and going sober I've started meditating and have been on a couple two week intensive meditation retreats. I have had half a thought to pursue life as a layperson in a Buddhist community (many across the world). I've been active visiting a few other small communes and farms. I'm also planning an extended trip this fall and use WorkAway, consider moving. Of course, most of my time I have been at home, comfortable and working. I do enjoy my work for the most part. All of the skills I cultivated at East Wind have come into play, from dealing with people to using a chainsaw. I'm a property manager (working for my family) and I get to learn new things just about everyday and I have some amount of time to get decent at new skills (home renovation type stuff). I set my own hours and have a decent amount of freedom to do such things as two week retreats. However, being involved in the financial system, driving a work van everyday, having my labor exploited and exploiting the labor of others in the name of profit doesn't sit super well with me (although the thought barely crosses the minds of any of the guys I work with). Also, where I live I just haven't found many people who are anywhere near my political leanings (and reasonably close to my age).
      So, I can feel alright about doing a "good job" (aka relatively good job compared to other landlords), in being fair and providing decent places to live for people, but I can't help but think about how differently things can be organized. How I want live in a smaller community, more in line with the flows of nature, with little need for money and where work is only what is necessary to survive, necessary to have a decent life (and my definition of decent life is probably "roughing it" to most city dwellers). In the same way that the years leading up to me going to East Wind found me anxious about how I should live a moral life I have some of the same inklings that this isn't right. That I shouldn't fall into the complacency of what has been laid before me. That I have a duty to resist in the ways I can and struggle for a different world. Doing that within the confines of my current situation or in a new place entirely remains to be seen. And of course, on top of all that (and mixed within), is the persistent anxiety that this population, this civilization, propped up by gluts of easily flowing oil for the past century cannot continue. All this knowledge I've learned about how to fix gas furnaces is moot because we need to be using woodstoves and living in radically different ways. That weather changes and the limitations of the current economic system are going to continue to cause major famines, migrations, and make the placid life many have enjoyed for decades impossible. Being a part of a dying society that is hellbent on burning all the coal, oil, and gas it can on the way out doesn't feel great (and we will, how else are we going grow massive amounts of food and keep people warm in winter, how else are shipping lanes and territories going to be defended if you aren't willing to put fuel in your jets and ships)... And of course, becoming more mindful is a battle against this constant stream of life rationalization (kind of unnecessary, isn't it?).
      A bit messy right now, obviously. Wherever I find myself, I know I will be more mindful, sober!, and better able to get along with myself and those around me.
      All the best to you! And hey, maybe visit East Wind or Twin Oaks or wherever is close for a weekend or a day if you can.

    • @aaronhankins1509
      @aaronhankins1509 Год назад

      @@EastWindCommunity1973 Thank you for the thoughtful reply and congratulations on your sobriety (forgot to mention that in my original reply).
      If you ever need a place to stay for free near San Antonio, TX, hit me up. I know we don't know each other but given your history you may be crazy enough to take me up on it, haha. It's a real offer, have a spare room, you just have to like dogs.I'm 36 and I think ideologically we are similar, with you being better at practicing your beliefs than I.
      Also, since you seem to be climate and collapse aware, I'd be interested in knowing your long term plans on where to live. I would love to move to the PNW but with wild fires and drought being an every increasing issue, I think I'll be unoriginal and move to the great lakes area.

  • @sillyyetsuccinct
    @sillyyetsuccinct Год назад +1

    It can't be easy to condense such a complex and monumental life experience into a video under 30 minutes. Thank you for sharing the pivotal moments and themes with us. Congratulations on putting in the hardwork to heal and become strong enough to tap into passion once again.

  • @jeremymiller5043
    @jeremymiller5043 Год назад +1

    Fantastic! I've watched this 3x times. What an honest and raw take on that period of life. Thank you so much for making this. Very stimulating to have someone open up that much with solid narrative and editing.

    • @EastWindCommunity1973
      @EastWindCommunity1973  Год назад

      Hey, thanks for commenting, means a lot. I don't have FB or IG or whatever else, but every once in a while I put out a video about my life for friends, family, and internet strangers to watch. Glad to know people are getting something out of it.

  • @unikadas
    @unikadas Год назад +2

    Very awesome insight. Thank you for sharing! I feel that everyone deserves the belonging and sense of contribution that a compatible community experience provides. It awakened in me a sense to search for deeper meaning. And context.
    I don't know you but I visited EW and TO and lived in community for a comparable number of Winters and Summers. And I've been journeying through them still. I just turned 40 and my community has shifted through work-exchange through communes, co-ops and strange hybrids. So I'm sorry if I just love you (non virtualized) sight unseen, and/or if I presume to understand distress imparted by this video. I feel and have sobbed about these sources of distress. That's the only reason I am called to soothe some of that. If it's unwanted or you think I'm laying out too much of me, please know I draw this out of a totally calm place in me, not some need to affect you. I don't want to take away from your journey or suffering if you're still using it, or if it's an important element for your life or identity or whatever! So please do not read the following as a negation of you. If you don't identify with anything you read next, then just consider me a well meaning fool at best. Here is what I am compelled to write to you:
    In all the communities and systems that are trying to find their footing, respect, groundedness, and re-exploring long buried indigeneity, it seems as though it is disrupting the unsustainable ways in which we've supported ourselves. The bad ways are not continuing. They are collapsing. In the huge transitions the world finds itself in now as a result, respect of the Earth and life forms are a way to be grounded, which you're already doing. I see that you express such respect for nature in your videos. I want to communicate to you that no matter what your plans are to embody that respect, to fulfill it, and to feel it viscerally ... that it is alive and flawless and immensely powerful already and yet does not need to be validated by anyone, least of all an Internet stranger. Not because respect for life changes our behavior and hence results in the world (though it does). Not because the respect and love for the world is a source of magic or mystical experience (though it can be). But because respect for life, when felt, lived, loved, and nurtured, as you have done for years now with your commune membership and RUclips channel and relationship building ... is felt by life - is felt by Earth. And in the same way that a hug that conjures love can genuinely heal the spiritual body, which cascades into emotional, metaphysical, mental and physical wellbeing (or even curing), so too has your expressions of love of Earth and people - even (and maybe especially) through the muck of "capitalistic gears", through imbalance, and through seeing lifeforms as mere "resources".
    When you realize these are the powers that save and renew the world, over and over, and they may have already done so for an unknown number of times (seek out the highest diversity of non-Western perspectives you can, if you don't want to hear it from another perceived-as-white fella) then you may find your need to personally do something transforms. (NOT to be read as: "diminishes" or "gets invalidated").
    So as you continue to follow the wisdom of your heart, as it seems you are wanting to do, also pay attention to your body, your senses, how different volitions in you feel. And importantly, what input drives those volitions? Does the input add stress? Does it feel nurturing? Does it seem designed to instill fear? Does it trigger you? What happens to you as you are drawn to different ways of detoxing/healing/metabolizing the trauma?
    Not to beat around the bush, my guess is that the signals which tell us the inner world creates the outer world are attacked by our own fear, which manifests as those of us we mistakenly see as "wisely afraid". We ecocide when we genocide when we tell ourselves strife is "punishment" for thinking too grandiose about our own powers. If you don't believe me, try reading more than the augury of the brain; expand it to the augury of the heart, the human you, the inner you and the outer you. From a spiritual standpoint my journey into my own fears about the world, and fears for others (maybe even fears for myself) is how I got into the most important sense of community I've ever experienced. Even, yes, living in this collapsing empire.
    I apologize if this is too woo, weird, cryptic, bold or "Nut House" ;) for a RUclips comment. It's not meant to be guru talk, just real talk from someone else on a journey that draws them through evolving sense of community. Be so well!!

    • @EastWindCommunity1973
      @EastWindCommunity1973  Год назад +2

      Thank you, Defcon. I do appreciate you taking the time to share this and I already feel that I will come back to this and read it in about a week to ponder it once more.
      I don't have a response to make right now, but I do identify with it and will sit with it. Thanks for all the thoughtful and supportive comments you have made on the past videos. Perhaps our paths will cross in the future! All the best to you in your adventures.

  • @HaibaneRakka
    @HaibaneRakka 11 месяцев назад +2

    I visited Twin Oaks for 3 weeks when I was 18. I was too young to commit at the time with the mindset I had. But as odd as it is your documentary here makes me want to try again and for real this time at 25 years of age.

    • @EastWindCommunity1973
      @EastWindCommunity1973  11 месяцев назад

      Cool, maybe I'll see you down there. I've been hanging around Louisa County quite a bit this year. Tuesday frisbee is the best!

    • @johnepps5830
      @johnepps5830 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@EastWindCommunity1973Are you still hanging around VA?

    • @lauraharris3577
      @lauraharris3577 11 дней назад

      I visited there at 18 too. Twin Oaks that is. But that was 50 years ago! There are many forms of community of course. Ecovillages that are not completely income sharing and communities that are vegetarian, mixed age, little ror no substance use, etc. are options that interest me now. Also communities with less primitive sanitation are available, if that's an issue for anyone.

  • @TheHarpster45
    @TheHarpster45 Год назад +2

    I liked it and glad to hear you tell it!

  • @Gnatty67
    @Gnatty67 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is a really great film. Enjoyed it. Thinking about checking this out. Are there any people in their 60’s?

  • @milkywayan2232
    @milkywayan2232 8 месяцев назад

    That was a very informative and well assembled video. I think you gave a good representation of what life and such a community is like. Perhaps it was more obvious to me because These communities have been on edge of my sphere for the last 25 years through people I've met, Short visits, Phone calls and other videos.
    You jam a lot into that video. Once I adjusted to your cadence I could follow it all clearly. I am talking your personal journey and not the community/Business overview Except where they intersected.
    Couple things. I would lead with, "don't take this personally", but we all know that is a sign for potential danger ahead. Darn. I just said it.
    Anarchy. In the last couple years I heard a great Definition for such. When two, or more entities or people make an agreement to do something outside the parameters of the governing system where they live. It's only been in the last year, that I realize all the elected officials have been participating in their lives as anarchists according to this definition since before George Washington was elected. When questioned about their actions they Stonewall or get their conspirators to say they are doing nothing wrong. I have been saying for 20+ years that the people are going to have to lead because the leaders or not. Sadly I don't know how that's going to happen. However the cash grab of elected officials from Podunk town council members to the highest offices in the country have formed their own clique. Then they all go along, to get along. This iscontrary to what they've sworn to do when elected. The two major political parties participation in this is equal.
    Now we get to what Aldous Huxley said about corporate totalitarianism. Great quote. Doing this on the phone voice text and I don't remember it verbatim but it is easy to find. Then Dwight Eisenhower wanted to say military industrial congressional complex. But he was convinced to exclude Congress with lots of pressure from various camps. I wonder if when he got to the Bardo he regretted that?
    Anyway I May not be that clear on my assembly of Thoughts here, but I hope you can cobble them together for clarity. You seem the sort that speaks fluent typo and disjointedness.
    So that really didn't require much of a warning sign. The one that does is when you apologize for the Clickbait title implying the land in Tennessee. I'm not giving you a free pass on that. Just live with it, you already did it. Do better in the future. I hope we all do better in the future. That way we might not collapse as soon as it appears we may.
    If you like let me know what you think! Thanks

    • @EastWindCommunity1973
      @EastWindCommunity1973  8 месяцев назад

      Not sure what you mean about the title. Any map I've ever seen has the Ozarks in MO, AR, OK and a small bit in KS. Definitely wasn't implying anything about TN. I don't think any part of the Ozarks is in TN, unless you count the edges I suppose.
      Yeah, life is an experience to learn from. I've benefited greatly from my time at East Wind. Better than making some rich assholes richer, perhaps. I don't worry about collapse, we are far in it and it will continue to get worse at an increasing pace. All the best to you. At another venture in Japan, as we speak, haven't quite settled down yet.

    • @milkywayan2232
      @milkywayan2232 8 месяцев назад

      I thought your comment, 4 1/2 years on the farm, was in the title. Hence my remark. I was wrong. I tried to edit it out of my comment just now. However the technology available to me it's not allowing me to do such. It is Likely operator error or I haven't paid the machine enough money to get their latest operating system. I will continue to try to edit that out
      I was hoping that we weren't too far gone. All the best to you as well.

  • @plantain9193
    @plantain9193 Год назад +2

    Happy Imbolc 🎉

  • @ronrocheleau3035
    @ronrocheleau3035 Год назад +1

    Hey Sumner! I’m visiting E/W soon and have a few questions. Please reply

    • @EastWindCommunity1973
      @EastWindCommunity1973  Год назад

      I don't see replies here, but you can email me or (better yet) someone currently at EW.

  • @DonM-lh8qs
    @DonM-lh8qs Год назад +1

    Dunno if my previous comment got eaten or not. You probably don't remember me, but I remember you very well. Would you like to talk?

    • @EastWindCommunity1973
      @EastWindCommunity1973  Год назад +1

      I don't remember seeing a comment made from your account before. Are you a member, visitor? You can send an email to the address shown on the last video on this channel.