LET'S ARGUE: OK Computer Is Overrated
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
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OK Computer is the best rap album of all time
Kid A>>>
It's 1989 by Taylor swift everyone knows that
Kid A better
Stupid ass meme comment🤦🏼♂️
Captain Beefheart best trap artist since BIG Will Shatner
LET’S AGREE: anthony should bring back the bass intros 🙂
To quote Jordan Peele, nope.
embrace change
True! We riot!
@@ayeg-dp5to i commented on an anthony fantano video within 10 minutes of upload, clearly i’m autistic
Why, he already played every note
"They haven't found their sound" = "they haven't found the sound that I prefer."
Came for the musical hot-takes, stayed for the unexpected gastrointestinal health advice. Amazing pivot.
lets agree
Dr. Melon
And what’s funny is that I got a Taco Bell ad right before he starting talking about to 😂
@BeerDrinker_69 I will make sure to use this!!!!
@BeerDrinker_69 it's legit just sodie-pop and has no real ginger it's all in your head
Is the computer really OK? I feel like we need to check up on the computer and make sure they are doing well.
Just checked my computer, she's not OK, sick with a virus. We need to raise awareness for computer health!
its ok cuz it runs haikuOS
Computer are you ok? Computer are you ok? Are you ok computer?
given when it came out, the computer probably doesn't run anymore.
Might need to defragment some drives, she's an oldie but probably still chuggin along!
the tourist is actually my favorite somg off of the album, i just love thom’s distant vocals and the slow build to the guitar solo towards the end-it’s just such a perfect finisher
eeeeeyyyy maaaaaaannnn
I used to overlook this song so hard but lately it’s my favorite off the album it’s atmospheric and beautiful
thom
As someone who's autistic and has ADHD, it literally makes me break down crying. It became the soundtrack as I was leaving Greece when I went on a solo vacation
It’s sad that so many people don’t actually see the brilliance of it and just think of it as a kind of boring closer
OK Computer is the most underrated reggae album of all time
Ironically, there is a OKC cover album from Easy Star All-Stars called "Radiodread".
@@luuismarquez It's a banger too.
@@SippyTango Their version of Let Down is wonderful
admittedly, I've never heard someone say OKC is the best reggae album of all time so I do have to agree with this
@@luuismarquez holy shit this bangs
If MGK dropped Ok Computer in 2023, Anthony would give a 2/10
Why such a high score?
“This mgk new album… NOT GOOD”
uh oh * nerd emoji *
💀
@@Plagues138 cause he's a genius, could've made donda
Let Down is absolutely one of my favorite Radiohead songs. I love the way it swells.
It’s sooo beautiful
It showcases Radiohead's overlooked spiritual side
I've only recently heard about Let Down and i cannot stop playing it on repeat
I would even say it's kind of, underrated...
actually its the only bad song on ok computer
Paranoid Android is my favorite Radiohead track. Thanks to Ergo Proxy for having it as the credits theme. One of the best rock songs I've ever heard.
It's my most played song on Spotify ever.
Pyramid scheme song
wait wait, does it really?
I also found paranoid android through ergo proxy
ergo proxy is absolute fire
I think the reason people put so much stock into replay value is because music is one of the only mediums where a casual consumer will regularly return to a given piece, which in a way gives music its own special place in popular media. Most people won't watch a TV show or movie more than once, or will only rewatch them after a few months or years have gone by. By comparison, its not uncommon to loop the same song many times a day. Obviously replay value shouldn't be the only thing considered when judging music, but its an important part of what makes music unique from other art mediums, so it's worth considering most of the time.
It's funny that the two mediums where people do put huge stock into the idea of "replay value" are for completely different reasons. Video games deal with the idea of replay value as a criticism all the time, but there it's more like "I paid $60 for this experience, it better include some artificial reason to experience it multiple times or else I've wasted my money"
That part hawmy
Also, music is ancient. Film is still a new medium by comparison.
Yea I felt like it was a bad take. Obviously it shouldn’t be the ONLY criteria but it’s certainly not the worst? Like yea it’s subjective it basically all is that’s besides the point. It’s a part of the conversation for sure - do I like this enough to want to return to it? And the exceptions Anthony provided obviously are a part of that conversation
I also think something that people in internet circles tend to forget is that there’s value in music that’s designed to just be listened to and enjoyed, and replay value is important for that
I finally just got around to listening to Ok Computer and Kid A, and tbh Ok Computer had me confused why it was so hyped the first listen, every song was just solid and good….and then it stuck with me all day. Every song, stuck with me, and I wanted to listen to it again and again.
fax I was like this is good but whats all the hype, but I kept wanting to go back to listen to it and started to really enjoy it. Now it has some of my favorite songs
Radiohead in general is like that..
I used to hate them and found their music mundane and uncanny..
And now they are the Greatest Band of all time imo..
I felt the exact same about In Rainbows
I've read this exact sentence in every review I've seen of OK Computer so far, the "It was pretty solid but I didn't really saw the hype, however one day... everything clicked with me", wich is kinda funny to me, because it kinda sounds like some mass brain-washing scheme made by Tom Yorke himself lol. I've heard it twice already, and it still didn't really clicked with me like In Rainbows did for exampe, but who knows, maybe I will too succumb to the OK Computer reign one day...
I will get murdered for this but I feel as if OK Computer is overrated, yet still a pretty good album. I just don’t think it strikes a chord with any of the greatest albums of all time but I would still rate it in the 80 to 90 percent range. There was a point where I absolutely loved the album but with more repeated listens it grew off of me. However, I think that Kid A is fantastic and is one of my all time favourite albums.
That cursing ban in the 60's was very real, probably one of the most iconic edits was on The Doors's debut, where Jim Morrison shouts "She get high!" But even to this day most people remember the censored version.
And even with their argument of Beatles cursing, John was censored because of working class hero, it was just a bad commercial move back then
@@kevinvelasco9142 Also the "knickers down" part in Walrus almost got them banned (how they got away with that, I still don't know...)
@@rabendranathat that point nobody could tell the beatles what to do
Shegit!
Shegit!
Shegit!
Can't even get an uncensored Doors Record wtf.
You can hear "fucking hell" in one of The Beatles' biggest hits - Hey Jude. It was number one for weeks, is still one of the best known songs in pop music, and yet a lot of people are still unaware of it.
There was this dude in his late 40s in my college class and we bonded over our love for rock music. He told me he liked radiohead and I told him that the bends was better than ok computer and I never saw him again. So he either dropped the class or he killed himself but either way I broke that man.
the bends has catchier songs tho
He was in his late 40s, probably his wife and kids drove him to su- I mean, regrettable decision.
you deserved that tbh
@@pepesilvia429 nah man
lmaooooooo
John saying "He was such a stupid GIT" on "I'm so Tired" said with such vitriol is pretty much just as impactful as any swear would be there.
We saw what happened when John had full reign over what words he used in his songs in a very interesting diddy about women.
I would argue Radiohead found their “sound” with The Bends, and then proceeded to dismantle and rebuild it for every subsequent album (save for Amnesiac, which was recorded the same time as Kid A)
so true
Ok Computer it's still one if the best alternative albums of all time.
one of best albums in general
alternative? what's next? indie? .__ .
OK Computer IS alternative rock with art rock
alternative to what, though..
@@immortalx50 Pop
@@yogicentralyt Goes the Weasel
Regarding the 'replay factor' argument, Sinner Get Ready comes to mind. It's probably the most emotionally impactful album listening experience I've ever had but I still wouldn't listen to it again cause it's just too upsetting. Couldn't imagine myself washing dishes to that or just chilling to it after a hard day the way I would to, say, Future Nostalgia.
which is funny because after mellon’s review I went to listen to the album and had to wash dishes and It was not an enjoyable experience I can tell you that
That's very interesting. I listened to that album virtually on repeat. Though I agree it's very emotional, and certainly requires a certain mood. I was just in that mood a lot when it came out, lol (and I'm from rural PA, so it had an instantly nostalgic quality for me).
But, I can't be certain I will EVER listen to A Crow Looked at Me by Mount Eerie ever again, but I would easily rate it in the top 50 albums of all time. It's just emotionally devastating, and if I listen to it I know I'm gonna have a long, ugly cry.
That's a tough sell for a listening experience.
@@QuintessentialQs i listen to real death a lot tbh, it's a song that helped me heal when i was younger, so i still listen to it often to remind myself things get better.
@@QuintessentialQsi literally can’t even finish that album it’s too much for me every time
New editing stylings are incredible and bring a lot to the videos!
That is the plan
We want the orange beanie back
pretty sure it's unedited footage
LET’S AGREE: In Rainbows is the best Radiohead album
I
a g r e e
we are tired
the guitar parts on jigsaw falling into place ALONE are literally some of the best acoustic riffs ever witten and that's just from one song
Nah NAH son. In Rainbows is their most ACCESSIBLE album. Radiohead has three categories - must be number one, almost perfect, and …wut?
No
I did not expect to laugh as hard as I did with "Here comes the BLEEEEEEP".
Oh, that was good. Thanks melon!
On the replay value topic, generally when I hear that term used i think more along the lines of "okay, this song sounded nice, but I don't think its going to give me enough to come back to it ever" as opposed to music that is really good, but you have to listen to it sparingly because its a very involved listen
Maybe 'longevity' should replace the term replay value as a concept
@@knifefght no, cuz even a song that you won't listen to often still has VALUE on the REPLAY, so changing the term doesn't offer any extra clarity
I can't be totally sure I will ever be emotionally willing to listen to A Crow Looked at Me by Mount Eerie ever again. I like music that makes me cry, but not that hard.
So for me, there's almost no replay value. But I'd still put it in the top 50 albums ever recorded without hesitation.
I recall you saying, in regards to whether TPAB or Ok Computer deserves the title of "best album of all time", "Anyone with an alternative rock taste would like OK Computer."
OKC isnt particularly hard to listen to but I think thats fucking amazing and a sign of expert musicianship. To get ideas across about the existential dread of computers forever changing society, and actually have the ideas be digestible and not overly cryptic takes so much talent.
Rick Beato (a music producer) says in one of his videos that while he was in music college, EVERYONE there was trying to reverse engineer and understand how tf OKC was made. It was so far ahead of its time with its sound and the ideas.
Its a fantastic album I'll cherish forever. When listening to Radiohead's discog I usually come back to In Rainbows more, simply because its nice, emotional music you can throw on anytime (and Jigsaw Falling into Place is the best song ive ever heard), but OK is their greatest achievement IMO.
OkC yeah, tpab??? Mehh.
I'm exactly the same with that last paragraph lol. In rainbows is perfect and jigsaw is my favourite song oat
OK Computer is the prototype, OK Human is the fully realized vision
Ok Orchestra
Weezer>Radiohead fr
Really Good Computer.
They be overhyping mid albums like these and then hate on real art like brown boy by NAV smh
Nav is the greatest artist of our generation fr 😤😤😤
Dumb meme comment
* Post nav bowling when they least expect it*
That John Lennon leak might be one of the greatest bits of music ever
Thanks, Fantano! Your tummyache advice helped me greatly!
I was recently surprised when relistening to Radiohead-Ok Computer by how quality it is considering how cliche it’s greatness is
It really is fantastic as tight as almost any album I’ve heard
Just classic after classic
I agree it’s not there best album but I think as far as critical acclaim goes it’s not particularly overrated
love when a melon is clearly in a good mood
Same, it changes the comment section too
Gerard might be the only vocalist during that era that wasn't obnoxious.
horrific take, Have my baby’s.
Saw this right away and OK Computer is revolutionary. If not one of the best albums ever made. All the songs hit so perfectly.
so real
I agree but I still kinda prefer Kid A...
@@sleep6837 probably more to do with kid a being slightly underrated than okc
real
Agree...but Kid A > Ok Computer
The editing in the last couple of Let's Argue videos has been awesome! 10/10 😚👌
Absokutely not overrated. Perfectly rated.
Ok Computer by Radiohead cant be played in the car, Take Care by Drake CAN be played in the car, confirmed, Take Care > Ok Computer
@@no-vk2qe Air conditioning solos Radiohead, confirmed.
@@therealsmalk The E.N.D by Black Eyed Peas (2009) solos all Radiohead because "i gotta Feeling" actually plays at clubs and parties unlike RadioMid
@@no-vk2qe Black Eyed Peas or air conditioning? This a tough one 💯💯
radiomid
2:49 My second favorite Beatles song behind "It's Okay To Leave Your Dog In a Hot Car."
one of the main things i hear from people who also love lingua ignota is that they can’t listen to her music all the time and i can’t relate, even though her music is incredibly emotionally intense and brings up some rough things for me, the songs get stuck in my head!! i listened to thousands of minutes of lingy last year
Ok computer is still one of the best techno funk records of all time
Let's Argue: The humour of let's argue is just watered-down Thatistheplan
Nothing to argue. It is a very PC version of thatistheplan unfortunately
LET'S AGREE: Ok Computer is the best depressive funeral doom drone metal album ever made
"How to fix tummy ache" and subsequent monologue just absolutely sent me
Gerards vocals are incredible wtf 💀
6:33 imagine having A Crow Looked at Me on daily rotation 🤕
Everywhere at the End of Time on the aux cord
I can't be certain I will EVER listen to A Crow Looked at Me by Mt Eerie ever again, but I would easily rate it in the top 50 albums of all time. It's just emotionally devastating, and if I listen to it I know I'm gonna have a long, ugly cry.
That's a tough sell for a listening experience. But I can't think of any single album by any artist that is even half as emotionally charged.
I used to listen to no surprises when I would have routine nervous breakdowns at my soul crushing day job that I could not escape. Trapped. Trapped. Trapped.
I had the replay conversation with someone a while ago because someone was surprised I didn't listen to my favourite albums that often.
For some reason she just couldn't understand that certain things require The Mood™ to be right.
If only it were the best computer…
I have a funny story about the Beatles swearing. A while ago, I visited the O mansion in DC where they have all these fancy rooms decorated like TGI Fridays that could be rented out like a hotel. The owners were avid friends and fans of the Beatles and he had a room dedicated to John Lennon. I walked into it while one of Lennon’s songs was playing in the background and I laughed; in the song he messed up, paused, and cursed a bunched.
I hope someday the studio sessions for Baby You're a Rich Man are leaked. iykyk
@@Yogkog *consults Wikipedia* hoooooly shit, John
He used to beat his wife, too.
I have to be honest I don't even understand the replay value debate. If I like a song or album I'm going to listen to it more than once. If something is good it automatically has replay value by default.
Love the editing on this one. keeping it fresh! 🔥🫶🏻
Replay value doesn't have to equal to daily rotation. A high replay value can mean that you remember the album and return to it over time and time again, and perhaps it not only delivers the same experience again, but adds to it, you discover new aspects of it over time.
Very much agree on the point about replay value. My first reaction was disagreement, but then after stopping to think I realized that most of my favorite albums in fact do not have high "replay value," in the sense that I need to be in at least a somewhat specific mood/set of circumstances to put them on. For sure, there are plenty of albums I love that I probably could listen to almost any day, but that doesn't mean they are better or that I enjoy them more than an album I listen to on a less frequent basis.
ok computer have alot replay value
every time I run OK Computer back I'm reminded of how many tracks I love on it
not my favorite by them by any means either but it's there as far as songwriting is concerned
also Cedric's (ATDI/The Mara Volta) vocals are beautiful regarding that MCR take...Claudio from Coheed as well
1:59 I cannot with that picture of the wiggles
Here are my takes
1. OK Computer isn't overrated, and especially not just because they were still finding their sound.
2. The Beatles shouldn't have sworn more. In fact, I'd argue that swearing would've made their music more awkward.
3. Honestly, I wouldn't be against it. I'd appreciate a little boom bap in rap.
4. I have no say in bands/artists I have never heard
5. Try some Pepto Bismol.
6. Uhhh, My Chemical Romance? Never heard them before.
7. Man, I dunno at this point.
8. Yeah, but what if we want to hear it again? Didn't think about that one.
9. I have no opinion on this subject matter.
10. I agree.
here are my takes:
1.- didn't ask
2.- don't care
3.- shut up
4.- L
5.- + ratio
@@MvsG18 i agree with your take
@@mihirb8090 thank you i shall continue my path of being based like mr based god
God these intros are always a damn trip, Ryan is a damn gift
I agree with the replay value take, cause for example if a song is sad or something it could be really good but you’re not always going to be in the mood to listen to it, and as for when there is a song you listen to often it might not be the best lyrical song but it just sounds good in the background, so it can’t really be used when talking about how objectively good something is. But if you’re having a conversation about what you like more, obviously the replay value is one of the more important factors
These bass intros keep getting better
My sister's doing well Anthony, thank you for asking!
Let down from Ok Computer is definitely a top 3 example for a Radiohead sound
Love the change in vibe / editing of the videos lately.
Best Julian Casablancas impression I've ever heard at 1:19
I’m honestly scared of what music looks like after trap beats.
100% PURE. UNCUT. ROCK!
It's all just clowncore.
Wow, seeing Emperor Tigerstar in a Fantano video is a youtube crossover I never thought I'd see! Bring more of the Geography and Music content creators together, I'm here for it.
these episodes keep getting better and better! keep up the great work daddy melon
Wow Melon! These bass intros get better everytime!
the editing of this let's argue is amazing
I treat these videos like an old dvd screen saver where I wait for the ring lights to line up with melon's eyes
I have a hangover and that intro helped me upchuck the entirety of yesterday’s food. Feeling much better. I love you
There’s technically a swear in Hey Jude when Paul Mccartney misses a chord. You can audibly hear it in the official version. Its amazing
Their performance of Paranoid Android on Jools Holland is probably the greatest live performance of a track, ever.
New editing style was noticeable and refreshing, I liked it.
OK Computer was Radiohead's Norman F*cking Rockwell
Lennon was cursing pretty front and centre already on Plastic Ono Band in 1970, so it didn’t really take all that long.
slammed this notification because I have to know who is wrong about Radiohead today
You look like you're having so much fun in this video and it cracks me up bro 😭
If it were titled "To Pimp A Computer" this video would be much different
it's underrated because it is not one of the biggest selling albums of all time or one of the most listened to. There will though still be people listening to this in 20 years time, 200 years time and possibly 2000 years time. It's timeless.
It's still not as good as In Rainbows though
are you 13 years old
That intro was gold 😂
very adult swim esque intros you got going man. Love it
Re: replay value, 100% agree- Carrie and Lowell, Fabulous Muscles, Suicide self-titled, Down Colorful hill, etc have only listened ~5 times and still consider them favs just bc they’re so emotionally devastating
Let’s stop arguing about Radiohead. We get it. Some of you think they’re the greatest band ever, and some of you can’t stand them and don’t understand what the hype is about.
I swear these arguments read like a child wrote them
Oh, they can be impressively bad.
i think a productive way to look at "replay value" isn't the frequency you revisit a record. for me, the question is - WHEN i re-listen to a record, do i get anything new from it? is there anything else there i missed?
there's some records i've loved, and i DID listen to them every day, that after a while i found i had gotten everything from the album that i was going to get. that's not replay value! this also fits nicely into anthony's take here since not every deep record is possible, or even healthy, to listen to super often.
The intro should be the official video of ``Climbing Up The Walls´´.
I’m always looking forward to watch the bass intros but this was better
the skits in these remind me of tim & eric, which is good thanks anthony
7:18 Exactly how I feel you don’t play some of those best albums all the time but you can love them the most for how impactful and good they are and streaming services don’t show this
I genuinely think Utopia by Travis Scott will be the new revolutionary sound for hip hop, I hope this ages well…
How much u wanna bet that its gonna sound almost the same as astroworld
I can finally have an opinion on OK Computer, thanks Anthony!
It's interesting to consider how that 'replay value' comment compares to other media. For example: While Grave of the Fireflies is one of the most beautiful, sad, touching and impactful movies I've ever seen, was an extraordinary rollercoaster of emotions, my life is better for having seen it, told all my friends they NEED to watch it, and my memory of that viewing is still very vivid in my mind even after more than 20 years; I never want to experience that movie ever again. On the other hand, I could watch Aliens once a week and not get bored of it for a long time.
I consider Aliens to be a lesser movie than Grave of the Fireflies.
There are a couple of albums that I consider to be outstanding, monumental, eternal but I can't really listen to them more than once a year (for example RYSFLATH).
Think of the reflections of the circle-shaped light tubes as his eyeballs. I just can't get it off my mind now.
Gerard Way should do more metal. Where's his Secret Band side project?
Gerard Way has an amazing voice, how dare you?!?!
I totally thought the tummy ache was a lead in for the green juices 🤣🤣
The "replay value" tweet reminded me of when Steven Hyden (one of the only other music critics I follow) had Sunbather by Deafheaven as his best album of 2013. He only listened to it a couple times overall because it's a lot.
LET'S ARGUE: I didn't shit my pants it was him not me
LET'S ARGUE: Fantano is too reddit
5:36 "Gerard Way sounds like a whining goat" how dare you!
God Tier editing. I'm getting an animated, AI midjourney tattoo of this entire video. God tier editing my skin.
Ok computer is still one of the best albums ever made