I thought the Fiat looked really cool when I played GT2 as a kid - 6 is the only mainline game I've never played or owned, but I'll be getting to that one eventually! :)
25:46 Ironically, your Spoon S2000 probably was capable of winning this race. Despite the restriction being 394bhp, the AI opponents themselves are actually only around 290bhp in that race. While that's still more than the Spoon S2000 has, it should still be possible to beat them with good driving (the AI tends to take the final corner of Tahiti Road very wide, making for a very good opportunity to overtake them).
The Spoon is so well balanced and light. It really is a great tool. And Tahiti is one of the races where the AI is much slower than you. It's one of the few tracks on which the dirt doesn't slow you down, so to you it's much wider than for the AI. In the two uphill right left combinations you can win even more time, when you enter blindly on the dirt and hit the perfect moment for swinging the car. I instantly hated the track and then loved it, because getting these two corners right (and the last one as you said) lets you beat much faster opponents.
something i missed during my first play-through is that all the race cars start off fitted with hard compound slicks, but have the super-soft available to fit. No need to spend any money, but still ending up with the better slicks :) Great video though.
There was a trick I used and abused with automatic transmission: hold R1 after you downshift to the desired gear before a turn.This way you can accelerate to full revs without changing to a higher gear. Don't know if after GT2 the developers still did it . Might be worth to try it. Also, when doing the licence runs, try not to accelerate to full revs before the start. That will make the wheels to spin and lose precious time. Hope this will help you. Edit: Spelling and unfinished sentence.
48:32 - the Pikes Peak course actually does exist, it's far from the full course but the specific section is/was factual in basis (the section between the 13-mile and 16-mile mark in particular is really familiar 😉)
Had no idea that's the section they pulled from. I need to actually go back and drive it in the game just to see what it's like. Kid me had no idea the significance of it haha
I booted up Gran Turismo 1 to quickly check and it did have license demos too, but it's in a weird spot, you need to go out of simulation mode to the replay theater and it'll automatically have replays of all the licenses from the developers. They were amazing back when there was only dial-up internet. After the first game they realized it was a better idea to put demo replays in the license menu. I like how you show all the details in your videos that others skip and I like how you talk about the history of the cars. I don't mind your videos being long, I really like you telling your story and revisiting the career mode in GT2. I'm surprised the challenge got harder and harder at many points but you pulled through. Great work! I'm really looking forward to GT3.
Wow I had no idea those demos were in GT1, that's a great find! Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it! I'll be starting my playthrough of GT3 soon!
A fun story losely attached? When I was in highschool, Ifell in love with that game, playing it at a friends house, but never owned a PS1. So, my best friend and I borrowed one over a weekend and also had to rent the game via videothek. Since we only had that one weekend, we played day and night, including endurances, and on Monday the school councelor took as both aside and gave us a long "I know teenage life can be hard, but drugs are no answer"-talk. That's what three days without sleep do to your outward appearance. But what a ride it was.
Oh man, I didn't even get GT2 until like halfway through the PS2's lifecycle, as I just never got around to upgrading from GT1, but that menu sound is still so nostalgic for me from the very start of the video. Really cool to me to see challenge runs in this series!
I will be the first to admit I went flying through there with no abandon as a kid but it wouldn't be fair to the challenge if I cheesed it, unless I absolutely had to. Might come to that for one of these challenges, who knows XD
I applaud you for being genuine with your thoughts,failures & ideas of playing this game. I love it. I have GT 1 & 2 with a PSX that still works plus a PS3 that serves backwards loading games.
I did enjoy the thought process going on at around the 25 minute mark, knowing where it was going to go and seeing the answer come together in real time 😁
@2:28 Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo, the fastest production Fiat ever made. 155 mph, stock. 😊 @6:23 It is a JDM Nissan Micra. It is a cheap city car. Ideal for those narrow city streets. @34:28 Yes, but the dragster cars are set up for straight line speed. You can pass them in the corner and cover some distance. @48:56 Ach, the kids these days have to improve their attention span.
Did not know that about the Fiat, very cool! I chuckled at the attention span comment, just wait until you see what I did in the GT3 video. Absolute attention span failure XD
It's so great to see those license test again, because they teach you so much, which I wish the game would point out more prominently. The last one in B for instance, you learn how throwing FR cars into the first corner of an s-turn helps them stabilize, as they lean into the suspension. Find the right moment to swing and it perfectly leans in again. Thus, eliminating the d-pad-effect. Great fun to see that again.
11:51 There is actually a solution to this problem while in manual transmission-you can BUFFER your inputs. Simply hold down the up-shift button while you're in the loading screen, and you should shift into 2nd gear on the very first frame when the license test starts.
@@djbrohawk Yeah, the game never actually tells you this. It's extremely useful to know about since some license tests are much easier to gold while in Manual since you can control when you shift. It's also really annoying that you can't view the stats of the car you're given in each license test. Being able to see exactly what the car's power band is would make it much easier to know when the optimal time to up-shift would be.
Ok dude. Here's the trick me and my buddy figured out a long time ago when steering with the stick.......push forward on the steering stick while using your thumb left and right for the steering of the car . Think of it like holding an actual steering wheel at the top of the wheel and moving your hand left and right to turn the car. Bottom line, push forward on the stick, rotating it while holding it forward for steering.
This challenge would be really hard if GT2 didn't have such weirdly lenient entry restrictions. 90's r390 into the 80's cup? sure, why not?! r30 silhouette in the sedan cup? yeah, go on then. When I played through back when it came out I couldn't believe it when I realised I didn't need to keep grinding credits to buy relevant cars.
Agreed, and I thought about whether cheesing it like that invalidates the "impossible" part of the challenge or not, but my rule is if the game allows it with no glitching, it's valid. Don't worry, Gran Turismo 3 takes care of that problem, as you will soon see haha
The real fun is seeing is you can beat it with half or ¾ of the hp limit. Super touring with 200-300hp cars is pretty fun. Max upgrading a total shitbox is where its at
As you proved it's not too hard to knock out all of the GT League events in a challenge like this, but it might be hard to do this if you required yourself to do all of the Special Events as well. I think the Historic Car Cup and Lightweight K (which the Lupo would be your only option I could think of to use) would be the hardest in that case.
I like the content length. Nothing wrong with having a long video for people to have on in the background (me) or for some to cruise through. Great stuff here. I’m very much enjoying it. It doesn’t hurt that I have a huge passion for GT2, my childhood’s most played game by a MILE.
This is still my favourite car game of all time and it isn’t even close. By today’s standards the handling is arcade, the configurability, the variety … genuinely, it’s on a different level. I have never found another game that *really* does what this does, only prettier. Never had a PS2, would consider GT3, but didn’t click with GT4, felt the driving model had moved on and not in a good way. Realism in car games is … laughable and always will be. To my mind I’ll always accept something where gratuitous power sliding, or that sweet semi-slide is the fastest, funnest way around a corner, and this game does it better than anything else. My best friend and I played this for untold hours. No analog sticks, not required.
I loved the video! I also love hearing your train of thought behind all your decisions to complete the challenge. I just subbed and I can't wait for the next vids.
Thank you! I feel like it makes the story a little more interesting - rather than just say, "here's the winning solution" I want folks to come along for the entire ride and see where their thinking might deviate from mine :)
Relatively sure G# is the note the March makes at redline. That's pretty convenient, not sure if that was intentional. (btw, if you want to finesse the right control stick for throttle but you have fingers of butter like I do, what I do is PINCH the stick with my index and thumb (thumb at bottom and index at top), and use my index almost like a chock to stop my thumb from pushing the stick all the way up).
Did you know that the R390 GT1 Road Car was reverse engineered from the race car? Rules back in the day said you need to have at least one homologated car to be able to enter the Le Mans 24h GT1 ( hence the name of the car) class. So Nissan went to Tom Walkinshaw Racing and together they build the LM version ( the 1997) car. after that, they reverse-engineered the race car into the car and got it homologated. This red/bordeaux road car is the original road car. It was rebuilt for the 1998 Le Mans race, most notable is the long heck the car got and its now really nice blue colour.
I once watched a 4 hour video of some dude trying to beat the mainline games of Metal Gear Solid, before the End Dies of old age... so this is nothing. Keep it up, these are interesting videos.
I played this game so much in my childhood to the point that I remembered which race had the Super Silhouette despite not having touched this game in years. As for the S2000, I've always wanted to own one, just was never in the cards for me (and especially not now as prices have exploded) - I agree this and GT4 are iconic racing games!
Great video. I don't know about you but I love the way these old GT games were presented, with championships that felt like the main event rather than this menu book rubbish. Anyway great content, really enjoy the deep dives into the gift cars, entry requirements etc
I don't recall ever playing any GT but I did enjoy this video. It was the right amount of entertainment in the amount of time was used. Goodluck on future videos.
Yes, you can absolutely beat this game without ever having to spend a single credit!! There will be some races that are difficult, but if you unlock the right cars as well as get gold, and all the licenses at the beginning, you’ll start off with a few good cars that you can’t buy anyways !!!
You can clown the Muscle Car races pretty easily. You had the weight and handling advantage for all those races. All the muscle cars are awful at handling and they also are pretty restricted for their top speed. That S2000 was a good car for it. To add you could do the Grand Touring races, it gives you the daisin silvia, the unisia jecs gtr, and castrol nsx. Those races are pretty easy and those cars can go into other races as well.
The cool thing about this is that there's definitely a number of ways to do it - I do like that folks have observed other ways, makes for a fun puzzle :)
The term "bog standard" comes from the slang "bog wheel" which means Bicycle. So in motorbike sales, "bog standard" meant a motorbike that was so standard it might as well be a Bicycle. Obscure origin but in pretty common usage today.
Im just starting the video, but as a kid i remember the GT40 being a beast in this game. It got under a lot of the HP restrictions, and was actually a lot faster than the competition and had great cornering.
Fun Fact About GT2 Trial Mountain 30 Lap Endurance Race: There's A Cheating AI Car That Should've Encountered In Your Run... Let's Just Say. A Race Car Was Supposed To Appear On The Racing Grid 😊
B8 is so fucking hard, I tried for hours and hours and I got 0.2 off gold. I can’t do it. 32:40 one of the few good things about later Gt games is that most race cars are locked away until you actually progress through the game, you don’t get them until hours in. Seems much more satisfying in progression.
yeah - I think they were kinda feeling themselves out for the first couple of games, there are some prize cars that were a little too powerful and too easily obtained, but as we've seen with GT7, their values aren't necessarily the same as someone who takes the game(s) super seriously I believe you can get gold on B8 - some of these tests were brutal, but my take is always "If you can get close to a time, you can get the time"!
Nice Vid, but maybe worth clarifying when you say 'beat Gran Turismo 2' you clearly mean 'beat the GT League'. To my knowledge you cannot 100% the game without buying a single car or spending a single credit because of the dealership events
I meant to clarify that somewhere in the beginning but maybe I forgot to do so...if I didn't, my bad - I'm using speedrun.com rules which basically says "get to the ending credits" (or in this game's case, get to the Congratulations screen after the GT events). Goofy me clarified that in the first GT video I think, too. RIP 100%-ing any of these games are impossible without spending money, sadly
That Silvia was one of my favorite cars to use. When they put the Gr4 Silvia in GT7 I bought it immediately. I got my first online race win ever in it :)
1:27 I'll have to say about the demonstration videos, they may be useful for just completing the licenses, but once you try to gold all licenses then they aren't that helpful. I recently played and got gold on all licenses on EU region rom and there were a few tests that was very, very hard. After banging my head against the wall for a long time I was like, "alright, I'll take a look at the demonstration" and the demo time was barely silver. At that point you know that some tests are rough when the devs couldn't make a gold time demo.
Yeah, I could've tried it - it's just not the way I ended up going, I wanted to be absolutely certain I had a car that could handle it, but that's what makes this fun - my way isn't the only way :)
License Test times in GTs 1 through 4 vary based on if you have NTSC_J, NTSC-US, or PAL. In most cases PAL is the hardest version with US being the easiest, with the exception of GT2's Rally Time Trials where NTSC_J has much easier times. The Cutting Room Floor has great info about the "Regional Differences." (They are missing the differences for GT3's Time Trials. IIRC, GT1 also had license test demonstrations located in Replay Theater.
59:44 Love the videos. I've got to point out that the guy from Polyphony Digital who made this game (and indeed the whole series) had a real soft spot for the Lotus Elise - apparently it was his favorite car. I think this race in particular highlights that but you did really well considering the size of your boat. Look forward to your next videos 🙂
When it comes to power limits, you spent way too much time searching for the perfect car. Most races can be one with cars much lower in hp than the A.I. and that's often where the fun begins. The biggest problem of GT2, apart from giving away the prize cars way too easy, was that there's hardly any challenging races. You could have won tons with the S2000 and have fun in the process.
"Bog standard" is actually a simple corruption of the term"Box Standard" no idea when it happened or why, but we brits (especially northerners like me) tend do that a lot 😂
How about this new challenge: Beat GT2 (100%) with NO power upgrades!! Buying tyres, suspension, drivetrain, brakes, racing modification allowed! But you can't go up in hp! Good luck!
Back in the good old days, there was a walkthrough printed in one of the playstation magazines, covering exactly what your challenge attempt did. They proposed a series of races, based on the price cars, to make this challenge work out.
True but I think that one is pretty hard to unlock without upgrading or buying a car. I thought about it but I think you have to beat one in a race, don't you?
@@djbrohawk to be honest it's been years since I beat it, but if I recall GT2 even though it showed races specifications I don't recall it preventing any car attending races. I could be wrong, again it has been awhile. Also idk if much is difference between PS1 and emulators, I would assume not as it's still the same game. I also don't remember ever racing against it, just racing the car against AI. I still have my copy of GT2 PS1, but no way to play it to even check for myself.
I also just the other day got gold on the first Subaru test going around the circle on my first try also, some of the test are drastically easier while some of them are devastatingly difficult!!
Think of the car sliding while showing 0 MPH like real life. A cars calculates it's speed by wheel spin, it's possible to lock up a cars wheels meaning no spin but the momentum will still cause the car to slide. If you live in an area with a good snow season you will experience this when still learning to drive.
Thank you - I feel you, I'm working on the GT3 run and that game came out in 2001. I got it on its release day, can't believe how long ago that was now
You underestimated how fast the lighter vehicles are in this game when comparing the power-to-weight ratio. The S2000 can carry you much farther than what you think it can. It's one of the most OP cars in the game. I find that a lot of vehicles in GT2 were kinda useless.
Yeah - this challenge was easy enough to where I didn't really have to crunch the numbers that seriously. I tended to err on the side of "what do I know will DEFINITELY work" rather than seeking the most efficient route, if that makes sense.
The trail mountain 30 lap race, I must have played that a thousand times saving money and selling the car repeatedly. To get every other car in the game.
Classic Trial Mountain, with the infamous "Yeet-chicane" By the way.. GT3 will be incredibly hard to beat without spending credits. It is doable, but super-hard
I always did the license gold stuff first, then did the free races and as much as possible with the S-2000 and moved on from there. Not exactly the same challenge you are doing here but a lot of fun to make it through the game without buying a car. The gift cars do go along way with that. You could have dine the free races in the Honda from what i remember as it just outs similar cars to your own in those races. You made it harder by waiting to do them. I enjoyed the walk through memory lane , might have to hook up the PlayStation and play some Gran Turismo 2 now. Fun video :-)
To clarify from what I remember Free isn't related to horse power in that game it just means there is no license requirement. It is kind of there just to allow people who want to jump straight in and race after buying a car then do the license stuff after the Sunday Cup and part of the Clubman's cup or whatever it's called.
I was so good at this game that I literally won a 3 lap race on autumn ring mini blindfolded (yes I went off a few times) in the 92 supra 3.0L turbo in the Sunday cup, I'm gutted I never thought to do a challenge like this! Strange seeing Americans playing a game that involves corners 😅 real ones.
HAHAHA my (primarily European) sim racing teammates make fun of me for that all the time. I lean into it and tell them to watch out if I ever have to turn right That's pretty incredible though, well done to that - my ADD brain would drift into oblivion if I couldn't see
17:41 I'm gonna say 23. I was just reading an article about Alex Albon (the F1 racing driver) and his race number popped into my head. EDIT: Wow, hearing you say '23 attempts later' was incredibly unnerving. I barely finished my original thought. One off... not bad
What's about the point of view/camera angle? I haven't watched many of these videos, so, maybe this is kind of sacrosant, but, have you ever considered changing to the chasing perspective? While the bumper camera increases the feel of speed and realism, it seems as if you don't feel the car's movement very well. In real life, your behind does that job. But in GT, without seeing the back of the car, you might lack the feeling for it breaking out. Some of your laps look as if that's what slows you down. Maybe it would be fun to try. Greatings from Germany!
Its definitely duable. Ironically getting gold in every license test prety much sets you up for beating the game easily. The hardest part would actually be finding low power machines for the extremely low hp races
Yeah it's funny how that works, it's especially true for this game. I don't know if it's true for all of them, but if you'd gotten gold on all of GT2's license tests you could basically dog walk the majority of the game LOL
I ran the Fiat Coupè in GT6, and confused a ton of people in FF race lobbies. The veterans knew though.
I thought the Fiat looked really cool when I played GT2 as a kid - 6 is the only mainline game I've never played or owned, but I'll be getting to that one eventually! :)
@@djbrohawkGRAN TURISMO 6, 10 years on its still a great game despite it lacked prize cars significantly.
25:46 Ironically, your Spoon S2000 probably was capable of winning this race. Despite the restriction being 394bhp, the AI opponents themselves are actually only around 290bhp in that race. While that's still more than the Spoon S2000 has, it should still be possible to beat them with good driving (the AI tends to take the final corner of Tahiti Road very wide, making for a very good opportunity to overtake them).
It is indeed doable, I have done it
@@ice44567i ever completed 33.3 percent of GRAN TURISMO 2 using only Spoon S2000.
The Spoon is so well balanced and light. It really is a great tool. And Tahiti is one of the races where the AI is much slower than you. It's one of the few tracks on which the dirt doesn't slow you down, so to you it's much wider than for the AI. In the two uphill right left combinations you can win even more time, when you enter blindly on the dirt and hit the perfect moment for swinging the car. I instantly hated the track and then loved it, because getting these two corners right (and the last one as you said) lets you beat much faster opponents.
something i missed during my first play-through is that all the race cars start off fitted with hard compound slicks, but have the super-soft available to fit. No need to spend any money, but still ending up with the better slicks :)
Great video though.
There was a trick I used and abused with automatic transmission: hold R1 after you downshift to the desired gear before a turn.This way you can accelerate to full revs without changing to a higher gear. Don't know if after GT2 the developers still did it . Might be worth to try it. Also, when doing the licence runs, try not to accelerate to full revs before the start. That will make the wheels to spin and lose precious time. Hope this will help you.
Edit: Spelling and unfinished sentence.
Revving halfway to full is also doable.
48:32 - the Pikes Peak course actually does exist, it's far from the full course but the specific section is/was factual in basis (the section between the 13-mile and 16-mile mark in particular is really familiar 😉)
Had no idea that's the section they pulled from. I need to actually go back and drive it in the game just to see what it's like. Kid me had no idea the significance of it haha
I booted up Gran Turismo 1 to quickly check and it did have license demos too, but it's in a weird spot, you need to go out of simulation mode to the replay theater and it'll automatically have replays of all the licenses from the developers. They were amazing back when there was only dial-up internet. After the first game they realized it was a better idea to put demo replays in the license menu. I like how you show all the details in your videos that others skip and I like how you talk about the history of the cars. I don't mind your videos being long, I really like you telling your story and revisiting the career mode in GT2. I'm surprised the challenge got harder and harder at many points but you pulled through. Great work! I'm really looking forward to GT3.
Wow I had no idea those demos were in GT1, that's a great find! Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it! I'll be starting my playthrough of GT3 soon!
Wow great information. Thanks for sharing!
Can we just appreciate how this game still stands up to this day, as a decent racer? The physics are astoundingly good for such an early game.
Better than decent!!!
I would argue that it’s better than half of the stuff out there that isn’t, Gran Turismo or Corsa ?!
Glad this was somehow my first racing game on console. ❤
A fun story losely attached?
When I was in highschool, Ifell in love with that game, playing it at a friends house, but never owned a PS1. So, my best friend and I borrowed one over a weekend and also had to rent the game via videothek. Since we only had that one weekend, we played day and night, including endurances, and on Monday the school councelor took as both aside and gave us a long "I know teenage life can be hard, but drugs are no answer"-talk. That's what three days without sleep do to your outward appearance. But what a ride it was.
Oh man, I didn't even get GT2 until like halfway through the PS2's lifecycle, as I just never got around to upgrading from GT1, but that menu sound is still so nostalgic for me from the very start of the video. Really cool to me to see challenge runs in this series!
I ever beaten GRAN TURISMO 2 using only very few cars.
in trail mountain you have to cheese at the end and just cut through the grass on the chicane bro. we all did it as kids lol
I will be the first to admit I went flying through there with no abandon as a kid but it wouldn't be fair to the challenge if I cheesed it, unless I absolutely had to. Might come to that for one of these challenges, who knows XD
I applaud you for being genuine with your thoughts,failures & ideas of playing this game. I love it. I have GT 1 & 2 with a PSX that still works plus a PS3 that serves backwards loading games.
All PS3 models are backward compatible with PS1 games, not just the early models. Those were the only PS2 backward compatible ones though.
I did enjoy the thought process going on at around the 25 minute mark, knowing where it was going to go and seeing the answer come together in real time 😁
I appreciate the feedback on that, thank you! :)
@2:28 Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo, the fastest production Fiat ever made. 155 mph, stock. 😊
@6:23 It is a JDM Nissan Micra. It is a cheap city car. Ideal for those narrow city streets.
@34:28 Yes, but the dragster cars are set up for straight line speed. You can pass them in the corner and cover some distance.
@48:56 Ach, the kids these days have to improve their attention span.
Did not know that about the Fiat, very cool!
I chuckled at the attention span comment, just wait until you see what I did in the GT3 video. Absolute attention span failure XD
It's so great to see those license test again, because they teach you so much, which I wish the game would point out more prominently. The last one in B for instance, you learn how throwing FR cars into the first corner of an s-turn helps them stabilize, as they lean into the suspension. Find the right moment to swing and it perfectly leans in again. Thus, eliminating the d-pad-effect. Great fun to see that again.
11:51 There is actually a solution to this problem while in manual transmission-you can BUFFER your inputs. Simply hold down the up-shift button while you're in the loading screen, and you should shift into 2nd gear on the very first frame when the license test starts.
No way, did not know that! That's a neat trick
@@djbrohawk Yeah, the game never actually tells you this. It's extremely useful to know about since some license tests are much easier to gold while in Manual since you can control when you shift.
It's also really annoying that you can't view the stats of the car you're given in each license test. Being able to see exactly what the car's power band is would make it much easier to know when the optimal time to up-shift would be.
Ok dude. Here's the trick me and my buddy figured out a long time ago when steering with the stick.......push forward on the steering stick while using your thumb left and right for the steering of the car . Think of it like holding an actual steering wheel at the top of the wheel and moving your hand left and right to turn the car. Bottom line, push forward on the stick, rotating it while holding it forward for steering.
This challenge would be really hard if GT2 didn't have such weirdly lenient entry restrictions. 90's r390 into the 80's cup? sure, why not?! r30 silhouette in the sedan cup? yeah, go on then.
When I played through back when it came out I couldn't believe it when I realised I didn't need to keep grinding credits to buy relevant cars.
Agreed, and I thought about whether cheesing it like that invalidates the "impossible" part of the challenge or not, but my rule is if the game allows it with no glitching, it's valid.
Don't worry, Gran Turismo 3 takes care of that problem, as you will soon see haha
The real fun is seeing is you can beat it with half or ¾ of the hp limit. Super touring with 200-300hp cars is pretty fun. Max upgrading a total shitbox is where its at
As you proved it's not too hard to knock out all of the GT League events in a challenge like this, but it might be hard to do this if you required yourself to do all of the Special Events as well. I think the Historic Car Cup and Lightweight K (which the Lupo would be your only option I could think of to use) would be the hardest in that case.
When you win a car change oil first before you dive it. You will gain a couple HP in doing so. Just wanted to tell you that. Great video took me back.
The problem with this is that changing oil costs credits, which the challenge forbids using. So that’s out of the question sadly :/
And the fact that this feature appeared first in GT3
The Gran Turismo 3 challenge is gonna be hell
Spoiler alert: Yes, yes it is LOL
You actually are forced to either be a goat or to spend money.
I like the content length. Nothing wrong with having a long video for people to have on in the background (me) or for some to cruise through.
Great stuff here. I’m very much enjoying it. It doesn’t hurt that I have a huge passion for GT2, my childhood’s most played game by a MILE.
Thanks so much for the feedback, I really appreciate it! I will keep that in mind going forward :)
Great job completing this challenge! That Daishin Silvia brought up a lot trophy memories.
Me too. I use that Daishin Silvia for 50 percent of the game progressions.
This is still my favourite car game of all time and it isn’t even close. By today’s standards the handling is arcade, the configurability, the variety … genuinely, it’s on a different level.
I have never found another game that *really* does what this does, only prettier. Never had a PS2, would consider GT3, but didn’t click with GT4, felt the driving model had moved on and not in a good way. Realism in car games is … laughable and always will be. To my mind I’ll always accept something where gratuitous power sliding, or that sweet semi-slide is the fastest, funnest way around a corner, and this game does it better than anything else.
My best friend and I played this for untold hours. No analog sticks, not required.
You can tell from the lines that you don't know the game and the tracks all that well, but the narration is pretty fluid and fun. Thanks a lot!
I don't generally play the game beforehand, so I kinda learn the tracks and physics as I'm playing - thanks for the comment :)
This was the game that introduced me to my dream car. and while I've owned the worse variations of it, I still haven't bought a 3000gt vr4 yet.
Those are sweet cars - believe those had at or near 300 HP stock back in the day with that huge spoiler on it!
I loved the video! I also love hearing your train of thought behind all your decisions to complete the challenge. I just subbed and I can't wait for the next vids.
Thank you! I feel like it makes the story a little more interesting - rather than just say, "here's the winning solution" I want folks to come along for the entire ride and see where their thinking might deviate from mine :)
Relatively sure G# is the note the March makes at redline. That's pretty convenient, not sure if that was intentional.
(btw, if you want to finesse the right control stick for throttle but you have fingers of butter like I do, what I do is PINCH the stick with my index and thumb (thumb at bottom and index at top), and use my index almost like a chock to stop my thumb from pushing the stick all the way up).
Did you know that the R390 GT1 Road Car was reverse engineered from the race car? Rules back in the day said you need to have at least one homologated car to be able to enter the Le Mans 24h GT1 ( hence the name of the car) class. So Nissan went to Tom Walkinshaw Racing and together they build the LM version ( the 1997) car. after that, they reverse-engineered the race car into the car and got it homologated.
This red/bordeaux road car is the original road car. It was rebuilt for the 1998 Le Mans race, most notable is the long heck the car got and its now really nice blue colour.
That's really cool! Thanks for the info :)
I once watched a 4 hour video of some dude trying to beat the mainline games of Metal Gear Solid, before the End Dies of old age... so this is nothing. Keep it up, these are interesting videos.
Best racing game of all time in my opinion, it have all the best cars of that time, also it was released on the same year as S2000 ❤
I played this game so much in my childhood to the point that I remembered which race had the Super Silhouette despite not having touched this game in years. As for the S2000, I've always wanted to own one, just was never in the cards for me (and especially not now as prices have exploded) - I agree this and GT4 are iconic racing games!
Great video. I don't know about you but I love the way these old GT games were presented, with championships that felt like the main event rather than this menu book rubbish. Anyway great content, really enjoy the deep dives into the gift cars, entry requirements etc
I don't recall ever playing any GT but I did enjoy this video. It was the right amount of entertainment in the amount of time was used. Goodluck on future videos.
Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it! :)
Yes, you can absolutely beat this game without ever having to spend a single credit!!
There will be some races that are difficult, but if you unlock the right cars as well as get gold, and all the licenses at the beginning, you’ll start off with a few good cars that you can’t buy anyways !!!
You can clown the Muscle Car races pretty easily. You had the weight and handling advantage for all those races. All the muscle cars are awful at handling and they also are pretty restricted for their top speed. That S2000 was a good car for it.
To add you could do the Grand Touring races, it gives you the daisin silvia, the unisia jecs gtr, and castrol nsx. Those races are pretty easy and those cars can go into other races as well.
The cool thing about this is that there's definitely a number of ways to do it - I do like that folks have observed other ways, makes for a fun puzzle :)
The term "bog standard" comes from the slang "bog wheel" which means Bicycle. So in motorbike sales, "bog standard" meant a motorbike that was so standard it might as well be a Bicycle. Obscure origin but in pretty common usage today.
Im just starting the video, but as a kid i remember the GT40 being a beast in this game. It got under a lot of the HP restrictions, and was actually a lot faster than the competition and had great cornering.
2.24 - "Coo-pay' is the 'normal' pronunciation - It's only those who speak the US version of English who say 'Coop'
We've broken English over here, we're lazy LOL
You can just hold down the upshift button before tests start. I know it's annoying but it will immediately shift the gear.
Great vid bud, love a long form video.
As for feedback I like the train of thought style structuring, will definitely be checking out more
Fun Fact About GT2 Trial Mountain 30 Lap Endurance Race: There's A Cheating AI Car That Should've Encountered In Your Run... Let's Just Say. A Race Car Was Supposed To Appear On The Racing Grid 😊
One minute in I think, come on, easy as pie. That Mugen S2000 is cooking half the game on it's own. Curious to see how it's going to turn out.
Thanks so much, I appreciate that :)
B8 is so fucking hard, I tried for hours and hours and I got 0.2 off gold. I can’t do it.
32:40 one of the few good things about later Gt games is that most race cars are locked away until you actually progress through the game, you don’t get them until hours in. Seems much more satisfying in progression.
yeah - I think they were kinda feeling themselves out for the first couple of games, there are some prize cars that were a little too powerful and too easily obtained, but as we've seen with GT7, their values aren't necessarily the same as someone who takes the game(s) super seriously
I believe you can get gold on B8 - some of these tests were brutal, but my take is always "If you can get close to a time, you can get the time"!
Nice Vid, but maybe worth clarifying when you say 'beat Gran Turismo 2' you clearly mean 'beat the GT League'. To my knowledge you cannot 100% the game without buying a single car or spending a single credit because of the dealership events
I meant to clarify that somewhere in the beginning but maybe I forgot to do so...if I didn't, my bad - I'm using speedrun.com rules which basically says "get to the ending credits" (or in this game's case, get to the Congratulations screen after the GT events). Goofy me clarified that in the first GT video I think, too. RIP
100%-ing any of these games are impossible without spending money, sadly
I’m from the UK and I also make the ‘turn left’ joke…but it’s from South Park.
Great job! You may have made it tough on yourself but maybe not. I watched the whole thing!
Thanks for the support :)
I waited an entire hour for that Silvia to make an appearance. One of my favourites of GT2.
The Silvia race car in GT1 is also really fun to drive.
That Silvia was one of my favorite cars to use. When they put the Gr4 Silvia in GT7 I bought it immediately. I got my first online race win ever in it :)
1:27 I'll have to say about the demonstration videos, they may be useful for just completing the licenses, but once you try to gold all licenses then they aren't that helpful. I recently played and got gold on all licenses on EU region rom and there were a few tests that was very, very hard. After banging my head against the wall for a long time I was like, "alright, I'll take a look at the demonstration" and the demo time was barely silver. At that point you know that some tests are rough when the devs couldn't make a gold time demo.
80s ports car Thahiti, it's not difficult for a S2000. this prize car can win the final race easily
Yeah, I could've tried it - it's just not the way I ended up going, I wanted to be absolutely certain I had a car that could handle it, but that's what makes this fun - my way isn't the only way :)
License Test times in GTs 1 through 4 vary based on if you have NTSC_J, NTSC-US, or PAL. In most cases PAL is the hardest version with US being the easiest, with the exception of GT2's Rally Time Trials where NTSC_J has much easier times. The Cutting Room Floor has great info about the "Regional Differences." (They are missing the differences for GT3's Time Trials. IIRC, GT1 also had license test demonstrations located in Replay Theater.
As for real tracks, technically Super Speedway was a snowclone of Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway. They would credit it starting in GT4.
Great vid! Love the nostalgia
Thank you! I love this game so much, I'll be playing it again I'm sure
59:44 Love the videos. I've got to point out that the guy from Polyphony Digital who made this game (and indeed the whole series) had a real soft spot for the Lotus Elise - apparently it was his favorite car. I think this race in particular highlights that but you did really well considering the size of your boat. Look forward to your next videos 🙂
When it comes to power limits, you spent way too much time searching for the perfect car. Most races can be one with cars much lower in hp than the A.I. and that's often where the fun begins. The biggest problem of GT2, apart from giving away the prize cars way too easy, was that there's hardly any challenging races. You could have won tons with the S2000 and have fun in the process.
"Bog standard" is actually a simple corruption of the term"Box Standard"
no idea when it happened or why, but we brits (especially northerners like me) tend do that a lot 😂
I never knew that Gran Turismo had a proper ending 😅
How about this new challenge:
Beat GT2 (100%) with NO power upgrades!!
Buying tyres, suspension, drivetrain, brakes, racing modification allowed!
But you can't go up in hp!
Good luck!
I clearly remember that when this game came out, the word "photorealistic" was thrown about a fair bit 😂
Back in the good old days, there was a walkthrough printed in one of the playstation magazines, covering exactly what your challenge attempt did. They proposed a series of races, based on the price cars, to make this challenge work out.
No way! I'd love to see that walk through - that's really cool
That game gives me numbing in left thumb with that Dpad… it was crazy
I've never been so thankful to own a wheel for GT7 LOL
All you really had to do was unlock the Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak and you would beat the entire game, no other car needed pretty much.
True but I think that one is pretty hard to unlock without upgrading or buying a car. I thought about it but I think you have to beat one in a race, don't you?
@@djbrohawk to be honest it's been years since I beat it, but if I recall GT2 even though it showed races specifications I don't recall it preventing any car attending races. I could be wrong, again it has been awhile. Also idk if much is difference between PS1 and emulators, I would assume not as it's still the same game. I also don't remember ever racing against it, just racing the car against AI.
I still have my copy of GT2 PS1, but no way to play it to even check for myself.
I also just the other day got gold on the first Subaru test going around the circle on my first try also, some of the test are drastically easier while some of them are devastatingly difficult!!
Think of the car sliding while showing 0 MPH like real life. A cars calculates it's speed by wheel spin, it's possible to lock up a cars wheels meaning no spin but the momentum will still cause the car to slide.
If you live in an area with a good snow season you will experience this when still learning to drive.
I've never experienced that in GT before, I get what you mean though, I wonder if that's what happened there
The cougar was also mercury in canada, i had one of these in 2011 with the 2.5 V6, it was always broken.
Excited to see you possibly do this with Gran Turismo 3!!
I just wrapped up the playing portion of it - video to come soon!
Great stuff. I can't believe i was playing this game 20 years ago
Thank you - I feel you, I'm working on the GT3 run and that game came out in 2001. I got it on its release day, can't believe how long ago that was now
Just discovered your channel today! Amazing content! I love the old GT games. GT2 was my first real racing game.
Thanks for the support, I'm glad you like it :)
Lmao didnt know that the "car stuck bug" did make it to the emulator. Happened to me on console when i was a kid at the seatle Track xD
had a blast watching it! Good content!
You underestimated how fast the lighter vehicles are in this game when comparing the power-to-weight ratio. The S2000 can carry you much farther than what you think it can. It's one of the most OP cars in the game. I find that a lot of vehicles in GT2 were kinda useless.
Yeah - this challenge was easy enough to where I didn't really have to crunch the numbers that seriously. I tended to err on the side of "what do I know will DEFINITELY work" rather than seeking the most efficient route, if that makes sense.
You've got me heading back to GT2.
The trail mountain 30 lap race, I must have played that a thousand times saving money and selling the car repeatedly. To get every other car in the game.
That's a nice and easy one to win early in the game!
Classic Trial Mountain, with the infamous "Yeet-chicane"
By the way.. GT3 will be incredibly hard to beat without spending credits. It is doable, but super-hard
I miss the yeet chicane but I just know it would be an absolute disaster with online racing LOL
I just dropped the GT3 video! :)
I always did the license gold stuff first, then did the free races and as much as possible with the S-2000 and moved on from there. Not exactly the same challenge you are doing here but a lot of fun to make it through the game without buying a car. The gift cars do go along way with that. You could have dine the free races in the Honda from what i remember as it just outs similar cars to your own in those races. You made it harder by waiting to do them. I enjoyed the walk through memory lane , might have to hook up the PlayStation and play some Gran Turismo 2 now. Fun video :-)
To clarify from what I remember Free isn't related to horse power in that game it just means there is no license requirement. It is kind of there just to allow people who want to jump straight in and race after buying a car then do the license stuff after the Sunday Cup and part of the Clubman's cup or whatever it's called.
You’ve just cost me €100. I had to go buy a PS2 and GT2. I hope your happy with yourself 😂😂😂 great video. Subscribed
Hey at least you bought a PS2 so you can get GT3 and GT4 too! XD thanks for the support!
Bog standard ❤ you've mastered English my friend 😂
My UK friends would be so happy to hear this LOL
On that GT-R Trial Mnt. 2nd place finish, I would cut through the grass and it might have got you 1st place.
I used the Spoon to win the Tahiti race, took me a couple of tries but go it
love your commentating on the races!
Glad you like it - thanks for the support!
The Nissan March is clearly G Hash.
HAHAHA
6:47 FPS games are much easier to play with mouse + keyboard than a controller
You are correct, and you can bet my friends mocked me incessantly when I told them that I, PC player of Call of Duty, used a PS5 controller LOL
I noticed you are emulating PSX, you can upscale the game for some crisper visuals.
Though, I totally get it if you prefer the original resolution.
I really enjoyed this. Thanks!
The Pikes Peak car (Evo?) is pretty good for a lot of races. It cant run them all, of course. But it won a lot of races for me back in the day.
I was so good at this game that I literally won a 3 lap race on autumn ring mini blindfolded (yes I went off a few times) in the 92 supra 3.0L turbo in the Sunday cup, I'm gutted I never thought to do a challenge like this! Strange seeing Americans playing a game that involves corners 😅 real ones.
HAHAHA my (primarily European) sim racing teammates make fun of me for that all the time. I lean into it and tell them to watch out if I ever have to turn right
That's pretty incredible though, well done to that - my ADD brain would drift into oblivion if I couldn't see
17:41 I'm gonna say 23. I was just reading an article about Alex Albon (the F1 racing driver) and his race number popped into my head.
EDIT: Wow, hearing you say '23 attempts later' was incredibly unnerving. I barely finished my original thought. One off... not bad
If you've got the winning lottery numbers, feel free to pass them along XD
Bro you forgot about the WedsSport Celica. I forget what race you win it in but it scrapes the competition.
This run could've been done a number of ways I think, but that is also a good one!
Nice video bro. Great idea
East City vibes: 100
The best Gran Turismo
Hey friend - super challenged Love it, just one question, what emulator are you using. Best Regards!
Thanks for the support! I used Duckstation. It's by far the best
What's about the point of view/camera angle?
I haven't watched many of these videos, so, maybe this is kind of sacrosant, but, have you ever considered changing to the chasing perspective? While the bumper camera increases the feel of speed and realism, it seems as if you don't feel the car's movement very well. In real life, your behind does that job. But in GT, without seeing the back of the car, you might lack the feeling for it breaking out. Some of your laps look as if that's what slows you down. Maybe it would be fun to try. Greatings from Germany!
God sakes gt 2 is sooo fucking good
it's a game that still stands the test of time :)
the weights you kept giving really threw me, in europe we used kg rather than ib
Its definitely duable. Ironically getting gold in every license test prety much sets you up for beating the game easily. The hardest part would actually be finding low power machines for the extremely low hp races
Yeah it's funny how that works, it's especially true for this game. I don't know if it's true for all of them, but if you'd gotten gold on all of GT2's license tests you could basically dog walk the majority of the game LOL
The S2000 would be capable of winning all the historic races I think.
Could be - I ended up not having to try anything super drastic for this, or attempt anything crazy anyway, but that's good to think about
Car kept moving because u needed to nanually downshift it.not all the way just 1 or 2 gears
How were you able to play this? I would without pirating and do this!
Damn you are lucky you didn't meet the cheating vector lm edition on trial mountain endurance race
I did get lucky because I did not know that was a thing LOL
maybe i missed due the longevity of the video but what car did you used for the lightweight K cup with 98hp restriction?
I think I used the Mini - I'd have to go back and watch it
great video chief!
Thank you! :)