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I've learned more about the technical side of F1 in 2 hours of binging your videos than I've learned in half a decade of casual-to-serious F1 watching.
Yes, right!? So the ATLAS stuff seems to output it that way, which is backwards in my opinion (for the reasons you said). And the Sauber computer (seem in the link in the description) does it the 'right' way. But I thought I should stick to the ATLAS version as it's the standard
What worked for me is to plot the left hand side to the line, so when the the wheel turn right, its left side goes up the x axis, when the wheel goes right, the left side goes down the x axis
Not that I'm a professional driver or engineer, but I always find the steering trace to be a bit useless anyway for data mining a lap on sims. Being able to tell at a glance how far from the center and if there are any jaggies are all you need. I do agree though that it's in reverse that way in the video, intuitively speaking.
I wonder what happens when it's different cars. Like Lewis vs Max. When you take into account setups, downforce level, engine power, it all probably gets pretty skewed. Gotta suck for Albon, comparing himself to max's telemetry in full team meetings.
Loved the episode. Would a real race telemetry analysis be possible on this channel? oh yea, one more sponsor crossed off of my Chain Bear's: Yoututer Sponsor Bingo Card.
Teams have real time telemetry as part of the pitwall software package for a while. They even have teams back at home base analysing the data and feeding the trends back to the pit letting the performance engineers know.
@@dyingearth You also just need so much people in a world like F1. I do it on my own for 2 cars and I can barely manage the work load if there are no issues. And if there are issues, well let's say sleep isn't always an option...
@@dyingearth I believe he was asking about looking at a real drivers data and not a fictional example. F1 teams probably aren’t gonna give out data but other series have either every cars live telemetry available to all the teams or just the fastest car telemetry but often they will have some limits on the data they give
If you want to: Download the free software Motec2. Its telemetry software. Maybe you can download somewhere some sample files from older races and have some fun with it.
@@FoggyNBS Being a Potter fan doesn't mean you don't read other books mate. When I was a kid, my parents would make me read all sorts of books to keep me waiting for the next Harry Potter to drop. I read Moby Dick when I was 9. I read a lot of Jules Verne. I read The Illiad and the Odyssey. I read Philip Pullmann's His Dark Materials trilogy. I reat the Lord Of the Rings -- and I've read countless other books you possibly haven't heard of because they're in French. It's very easy to look down on pop culture. It doesn't make you look or sound smarter. It makes you look conceited, snobbish and frankly insufferable. Please stop.
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Excellent dive into data analysis. Being a cyclist, i often do the same checking my power, heartrate, speed, cadence etc. during my efforts, for example on a climb or after a race. The idea is the same, just the values differ. You really did explain it well, and i go through my plots in the same way you did :-)
8:01 I think you meant a right hand turn. Because for a left turn the right side off the car would be outside and therefore loaded. No biggie, just noticed it.
Palmer in his Mugello GP analysis had this AMAZING chart that compared speeds of different drivers at the same time, during the restart. Was great to look at.
I'm working on building the telemetry system for our Formula SAE car and found this video extremely informative. Thanks for putting this good content out!
Good video and overview! For what its worth, at least in the US, telemetry specifically is only the data obtained over the air while the car is on track. The data obtained from the car’s on board logging solution (always higher resolution and abundance) would generally be referred to as “logged data”.
@@watermelonbanana1772 type in motec data software into google and should come up. Also google how to make it compatible with whatever games you wish. I use it for assetto corsa competizione And rfactor2
If these videos continue to come with that kind of information, it is safw to say that I will be fully qualified to be a trackside engineer graduated from ChainBearCollege.
Pedantic note: the center of mass of the car doesn't really "move" under braking (technically it does if your perspective is relative to the road surface, *slightly*), the effect seen by the increased loading of the front tires is weight transfer.
With how compact this season has been so far, I have been a bit bored in the few weekends when there is no race. So this weekend I solved it by staying up all night and watching the Bathurst 1000. Man, that was some good racing...
You only can compare to your teammate when you align the data before each corner and after each corner with a damper trace. Your kind of compare just works when both do the same distance (line). Otherwise its not clear if you lose or gain in a corner even with the time delta line. Just keep this in your mind.
Argh, you're so right. This is one of those things where I stared at it, thought about it, double checked, over thought it and un-corrected myself. Stupid face-on car angle.
Non F1 uses of similar data: ABS uses individual wheel speed sensors - I assume when that is present, it acts when those obvious lockups occur... (Traction control as well. AFAIK, stability control involves some more sensors)
Telemetry was (still is) best feature of F1 (and 99-02 game... as I keep using it as I like classic and i'm like dinosaur-31-yrs old who started watching F1 at 8... so all basic drivers I learned is from that time). Do some laps, check them out. Do some changes (gears/suspension/tire pressure/wings etc.), compare. Repeat. It really give that big feed-back loop vs just regular "yeah, drive around and... try to win or something..." it can get boring. But all that background of why car is fast and where it is slow and what one can do to cool that overstressed outer-front tire - it just gives much better understanding of actual racing. And can enjoy it more. Foreveeer.
I saw a vid about Schumacher X Barrichello telemetry. Schumacher braked early but less in The beggining of The braking. During The curve, Schumacher Kept more speed All The way. And used a lot The steering wheel to micro correct The car and have All The grip possible. It gave him 0.1s or more advantage in most corners. In The end of the lap, He had more than half a second advantage over Barrichello. Thats why there are some guys that really made difference At F1. Schumacher, Alonso, Verstappen, Hamilton... They do some things that The Team mate knows, sees At telemetry and Just cant reproduce.
@Chain Bear do you happen to know how long teams keep telemetry data for? And if they make it public after a while? Doesn't seem like it would be massive to store, it would be pretty cool if they made historical telemetry available online for people learning to read it, or for artwork! I can think of more than a few infamous laps in history that I wouldn't mind hanging on my wall...
I try to use telemetry once in a while for iracing and if i spend enough time I can get some use out of it but until I've done quite a lot of driving even if I compare myself to someones lap that's a second faster; maybe two, I can barely tell the difference between my traces and theirs, probably because there's so much information hidden within little pieces of the traces.
huh, collor me impressed, this was the first Raid comercial i've seen that wasn't blatantly false. (tho it might be worth to mention that the only way to "be competative" is to shell out around 500£ a month.)
great video again. I was wondering if you could do a video where you explain why so many teams like Racing Point, Mclaren, Red Bull and Renault have all of the sudden decided to go with a Mercedes-style narrow nose this year when they all previously used the wide noses with the little thumb on the end. Was very surprised to see all of them adopting to this design in exactly the same year.
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Raid shadow legend is a horrible cash grab
It's not too late Chain Bear, you can still turn away from the darkside! 🖤
No
“Boom a grape, but on fire” best line ever
Definitely.
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Viewer: 👁️👄👁️
I've learned more about the technical side of F1 in 2 hours of binging your videos than I've learned in half a decade of casual-to-serious F1 watching.
They don't teach this stuff at sky sports
That steering trace is very counterintuitive given you tend to picture the car going along the x axis.
Yes, right!? So the ATLAS stuff seems to output it that way, which is backwards in my opinion (for the reasons you said). And the Sauber computer (seem in the link in the description) does it the 'right' way. But I thought I should stick to the ATLAS version as it's the standard
What worked for me is to plot the left hand side to the line, so when the the wheel turn right, its left side goes up the x axis, when the wheel goes right, the left side goes down the x axis
@@novousuarionaoidentificado you mean imagining the car going in reverse? XD
Not that I'm a professional driver or engineer, but I always find the steering trace to be a bit useless anyway for data mining a lap on sims. Being able to tell at a glance how far from the center and if there are any jaggies are all you need.
I do agree though that it's in reverse that way in the video, intuitively speaking.
@@2Steps I don't get it, how can you see how far you are from the center and if there are any jaggies without a steering trace?
How to use temelmatry: Step 1 watch chain bear
Step 2: Have a big brain time
Step 3: Get a job in f1
Step 4: Read it
Step 5: Relax
Big brain moves here
Step 6: play Raid Shadow Legends™
Wow thanks for the likes
@@shinyenderman9999 *telemetry, not temelmatry
200 IQ dude, bravo!
I just realized how big the disadvantage is, that Max has for not being able to compare his data with a teammate....
ouch...
He still can bit he probably won't learn out of it
Maybe he's just racing Albon too hard
learns what not to do
I wonder what happens when it's different cars. Like Lewis vs Max. When you take into account setups, downforce level, engine power, it all probably gets pretty skewed. Gotta suck for Albon, comparing himself to max's telemetry in full team meetings.
The amount of effort you put into the data points and lining them up with the track is insane.
Loved the episode. Would a real race telemetry analysis be possible on this channel?
oh yea, one more sponsor crossed off of my Chain Bear's: Yoututer Sponsor Bingo Card.
Teams have real time telemetry as part of the pitwall software package for a while. They even have teams back at home base analysing the data and feeding the trends back to the pit letting the performance engineers know.
@@dyingearth You also just need so much people in a world like F1. I do it on my own for 2 cars and I can barely manage the work load if there are no issues. And if there are issues, well let's say sleep isn't always an option...
@@dyingearth I believe he was asking about looking at a real drivers data and not a fictional example. F1 teams probably aren’t gonna give out data but other series have either every cars live telemetry available to all the teams or just the fastest car telemetry but often they will have some limits on the data they give
If you want to:
Download the free software Motec2.
Its telemetry software.
Maybe you can download somewhere some sample files from older races and have some fun with it.
i'd rather see qualifying telemetry analysis
Intresting, also oh no, he got ate up by raid
He asked on twitter if people would mind and the answer was basically an overwhelming "take the cash, mate".
Mobile games offer big bucks.
@@GeniusLad32 fair enough, not that I am complaining about him doing it but rather at raid STILL existing
Raid can exist for eternity if it will pay creators because youtube does not care about them
@@mosadcoow yeah but one would think they finally got outta the spotlight and stuff can exist now without mentioning it
It’s easy to skip, he gets paid, it’s a win win
Monday just got a lot better.
ye until: "RAID SHADOW LEGENDS" hapoend
You mean bearable :)
Amazing how much of this I learned from playing Gran Turismo back in the day.
Chain Bear's voice makes me feel so calm. They should use him in a meditation app.
I wish all my classes in school had been taught by him.
0:20 you've ruined Harry Potter and Emma Watson for me...
Hadn't JK Rowling already ruined HP for you ?
I'm begging you, please read another book
@@FoggyNBS Being a Potter fan doesn't mean you don't read other books mate.
When I was a kid, my parents would make me read all sorts of books to keep me waiting for the next Harry Potter to drop. I read Moby Dick when I was 9. I read a lot of Jules Verne. I read The Illiad and the Odyssey. I read Philip Pullmann's His Dark Materials trilogy. I reat the Lord Of the Rings -- and I've read countless other books you possibly haven't heard of because they're in French.
It's very easy to look down on pop culture. It doesn't make you look or sound smarter. It makes you look conceited, snobbish and frankly insufferable. Please stop.
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*improved
I'm from Spain and I've never seen a TY channel like this. By far the best channel.
I just found the channel and have been watching a bunch of your videos in a row. It's awesome to watch your animation skills improve!
1:50 To skip the raid ad
Thank you! No offence to ChainBear but Raid-scrap is really one of the worst things you can advertise for
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Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need
i was already to skip it but he made the funniest Raid Shadow Legends ad i've seen so far.
lol, don't skip the ad its funny... but really really don't download raid shadow legends
You are the first person who got me to watch a video game ad in full. 😅
Me also!
OH MY GOSH! Dude. This is incredible. So much thought and effort went into this!
Thank you!
Excellent dive into data analysis. Being a cyclist, i often do the same checking my power, heartrate, speed, cadence etc. during my efforts, for example on a climb or after a race. The idea is the same, just the values differ. You really did explain it well, and i go through my plots in the same way you did :-)
I feel like a genius watching Chain Bear's videos
7:58 You got this a little wrong. The outside (right side) would be loaded and inside (left side) would be lightened.
yeah i came down on comments to confirm this, thx
8:01 I think you meant a right hand turn. Because for a left turn the right side off the car would be outside and therefore loaded. No biggie, just noticed it.
Thank you! Despite watching F1 for more years than I care to admit to, I think that's the first explanation of the data I've heard. Much appreciated!
8:03 In a left turn the right side of the car will not lift, as illustrated in your own animation. The right should be loaded.
yeah i think that maybe like a typo
Yep I agree as well. The side getting loaded is the side of the car opposite to the side in which your turning, in my experience.
Looked for that comment👍
I think he's on a different perspective, like looking at number 6 turns out to be number 9 at different pov
Yes it would, when you put more load on the right side, the left side has less load
Best raid shadow legends ad i have watched ever. Deserves a thumbs up just for that
The excitement when I see new Chain Bear video notification - PRICELESS!
Palmer in his Mugello GP analysis had this AMAZING chart that compared speeds of different drivers at the same time, during the restart. Was great to look at.
Fun fact: if you play racing sims, you can use motec to get your own telemetry from your races
Awesome video! Very well explained. You make F1 so much more interesting.
I'm working on building the telemetry system for our Formula SAE car and found this video extremely informative. Thanks for putting this good content out!
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it really is incredible how elegantly you take a complicated topic and convey it simply. bravo! 👏
One of the best videos you have made so far!
This is so good! Thanks Chain Bear! Really insightful!
I remember your tweet about this ad, I'm glad to see you did it!
Unending Insight just changed my life
Love the ad. Entertaining in its own special way
Honestly really good work!
The sequence on roll and wheels speed are not often talked about !
Best Raid plug I've ever seen, mate. Well done.
One of the best videos you done ever. Really liked it
Good video and overview! For what its worth, at least in the US, telemetry specifically is only the data obtained over the air while the car is on track. The data obtained from the car’s on board logging solution (always higher resolution and abundance) would generally be referred to as “logged data”.
I’m just getting in F1 these videos are a godsend
Just getting into F1! Love these videos
This is one of the best videos you've ever done
Awesome and educational video. Keep up the good work.
Raidy Shady has saved RUclips during their period of bizarre algorithm choices.
Great video. Really cool insight into how drivers and teams use telemetry
That was a massively helpful and interesting look at a topic that I always presumed was so confusing there was no point in trying to understand it.
The statistical analysis. It's so beautiful. 🤧
The further reading part of the description reminding me of uni lectures
i use the motec software for sim racing and i highly recommend it for any sim racers trying to get better
Cool where can I get this?
@@watermelonbanana1772 type in motec data software into google and should come up. Also google how to make it compatible with whatever games you wish. I use it for assetto corsa competizione And rfactor2
Motec is legit
If these videos continue to come with that kind of information, it is safw to say that I will be fully qualified to be a trackside engineer graduated from ChainBearCollege.
Great video! The brake pedal pressure however isn't constant through a braking zone in F1 cars due to downforce.
The sponser section was actually pretty entertaining
Another super video. Like anything else scientific, the more you know, the more questions you ask.
Awesome video! You made it easier to understand
Beautifully explained !
u deserve at least a 10 million subs amazing video
Pedantic note: the center of mass of the car doesn't really "move" under braking (technically it does if your perspective is relative to the road surface, *slightly*), the effect seen by the increased loading of the front tires is weight transfer.
Hey Stu, really pleased you took the money and ran with Raid! Glad it gets you some security to make the content we love!
These are the questions we should be asking
Oh how I dearly miss playing GTR2. I used to see those telemetry all day long just to understand the whole drive.
After I hear raid shadow legends:
10>10>
big up aston villa
@@ahl.56 big up Leeds united
With how compact this season has been so far, I have been a bit bored in the few weekends when there is no race. So this weekend I solved it by staying up all night and watching the Bathurst 1000. Man, that was some good racing...
I can't live my life without you🥺
The most CBA Raid advert ever !
Good stuff getting that Raid Shadow Legends bag lad
I will use this for GT sport. Thanks CB
Never been this early to a chain bear video before.
Feels um different.
You only can compare to your teammate when you align the data before each corner and after each corner with a damper trace. Your kind of compare just works when both do the same distance (line). Otherwise its not clear if you lose or gain in a corner even with the time delta line. Just keep this in your mind.
love your voice & videos ❤️, so many
complex things of F1 but, your explanation makes it easier to understand...
Very nice vid well done
Great content as always! Seeing the embedded Raid ad was weird 😂😂.
Ahh finally, excellent video :)
And from now on every Formula 1 Driver Academy will use this video to tech their upcomming racingdrivers :D
Great video Bear... Thank you
Ha great video! I only now realize that your credit-roll-song is the same song featured in Dirt Rally 2.0
Even a Chainbear F1 video can't escape Raid: Shadow Legends lol.
For a high speed left turn,the outside tire (right) will be loaded not the inside tire
Argh, you're so right. This is one of those things where I stared at it, thought about it, double checked, over thought it and un-corrected myself. Stupid face-on car angle.
absolutely great content
this was great - do you do more explainer videos ?
Non F1 uses of similar data: ABS uses individual wheel speed sensors - I assume when that is present, it acts when those obvious lockups occur... (Traction control as well. AFAIK, stability control involves some more sensors)
begining of the end, when i hear a 1minute ad about raid shaity legends
Telemetry was (still is) best feature of F1 (and 99-02 game... as I keep using it as I like classic and i'm like dinosaur-31-yrs old who started watching F1 at 8... so all basic drivers I learned is from that time). Do some laps, check them out. Do some changes (gears/suspension/tire pressure/wings etc.), compare. Repeat. It really give that big feed-back loop vs just regular "yeah, drive around and... try to win or something..." it can get boring. But all that background of why car is fast and where it is slow and what one can do to cool that overstressed outer-front tire - it just gives much better understanding of actual racing. And can enjoy it more. Foreveeer.
I saw a vid about Schumacher X Barrichello telemetry. Schumacher braked early but less in The beggining of The braking.
During The curve, Schumacher Kept more speed All The way. And used a lot The steering wheel to micro correct The car and have All The grip possible. It gave him 0.1s or more advantage in most corners. In The end of the lap, He had more than half a second advantage over Barrichello.
Thats why there are some guys that really made difference At F1. Schumacher, Alonso, Verstappen, Hamilton... They do some things that The Team mate knows, sees At telemetry and Just cant reproduce.
Excellent explanation 😊
This was actually really interesting
@Chain Bear do you happen to know how long teams keep telemetry data for? And if they make it public after a while? Doesn't seem like it would be massive to store, it would be pretty cool if they made historical telemetry available online for people learning to read it, or for artwork! I can think of more than a few infamous laps in history that I wouldn't mind hanging on my wall...
I love these videos
This is beautiful
I try to use telemetry once in a while for iracing and if i spend enough time I can get some use out of it but until I've done quite a lot of driving even if I compare myself to someones lap that's a second faster; maybe two, I can barely tell the difference between my traces and theirs, probably because there's so much information hidden within little pieces of the traces.
Damn I love these notifications
But everyone knows telemetry is just teleporting a meter
Your videos are awesome.
Beautiful video
Fantastic job
huh, collor me impressed, this was the first Raid comercial i've seen that wasn't blatantly false. (tho it might be worth to mention that the only way to "be competative" is to shell out around 500£ a month.)
This was a great video.
1:49 for the ad skip.
Love the channel. But dont mind me skipping Raid...
great video again. I was wondering if you could do a video where you explain why so many teams like Racing Point, Mclaren, Red Bull and Renault have all of the sudden decided to go with a Mercedes-style narrow nose this year when they all previously used the wide noses with the little thumb on the end. Was very surprised to see all of them adopting to this design in exactly the same year.
"...two minds and no heart"
great video! nice explanation. I really didnt know suspension load was also tracked