F1 Telemetry - How the car performance translates to those wiggly lines

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  • Опубликовано: 4 дек 2024

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  • @chainbear
    @chainbear  4 года назад +54

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    • @Septimus_ii
      @Septimus_ii 4 года назад +128

      Disclaimer: Raid Shadow Legends is a dreadful game

    • @eviljeor
      @eviljeor 4 года назад +1

      💥

    • @nathaliestarlight6372
      @nathaliestarlight6372 4 года назад +40

      Raid shadow legend is a horrible cash grab

    • @Mr.NiceUK
      @Mr.NiceUK 4 года назад +54

      It's not too late Chain Bear, you can still turn away from the darkside! 🖤

    • @Niko-he4ji
      @Niko-he4ji 4 года назад +8

      No

  • @davethefish5
    @davethefish5 4 года назад +489

    “Boom a grape, but on fire” best line ever

    • @matthewslates
      @matthewslates 4 года назад +1

      Definitely.

    • @Stellar-Cowboy
      @Stellar-Cowboy 4 года назад +7

      RUclipsr: "Raid Shadow legends sponsorship"
      Viewer: 👁️👄👁️

  • @vikingmetalhead024
    @vikingmetalhead024 4 года назад +61

    I've learned more about the technical side of F1 in 2 hours of binging your videos than I've learned in half a decade of casual-to-serious F1 watching.

    • @mathealgou
      @mathealgou 3 года назад +5

      They don't teach this stuff at sky sports

  • @970357ers
    @970357ers 4 года назад +321

    That steering trace is very counterintuitive given you tend to picture the car going along the x axis.

    • @chainbear
      @chainbear  4 года назад +100

      Yes, right!? So the ATLAS stuff seems to output it that way, which is backwards in my opinion (for the reasons you said). And the Sauber computer (seem in the link in the description) does it the 'right' way. But I thought I should stick to the ATLAS version as it's the standard

    • @novousuarionaoidentificado
      @novousuarionaoidentificado 4 года назад +17

      What worked for me is to plot the left hand side to the line, so when the the wheel turn right, its left side goes up the x axis, when the wheel goes right, the left side goes down the x axis

    • @Draftmission
      @Draftmission 4 года назад +1

      @@novousuarionaoidentificado you mean imagining the car going in reverse? XD

    • @2Steps
      @2Steps 4 года назад +2

      Not that I'm a professional driver or engineer, but I always find the steering trace to be a bit useless anyway for data mining a lap on sims. Being able to tell at a glance how far from the center and if there are any jaggies are all you need.
      I do agree though that it's in reverse that way in the video, intuitively speaking.

    • @Olivyay
      @Olivyay 4 года назад +1

      @@2Steps I don't get it, how can you see how far you are from the center and if there are any jaggies without a steering trace?

  • @shinyenderman9999
    @shinyenderman9999 4 года назад +344

    How to use temelmatry: Step 1 watch chain bear
    Step 2: Have a big brain time
    Step 3: Get a job in f1
    Step 4: Read it
    Step 5: Relax

  • @keeperse6
    @keeperse6 4 года назад +193

    I just realized how big the disadvantage is, that Max has for not being able to compare his data with a teammate....

    • @NarendraWicaksono
      @NarendraWicaksono 4 года назад +6

      ouch...

    • @Samuel-xi7ur
      @Samuel-xi7ur 4 года назад +9

      He still can bit he probably won't learn out of it

    • @namirai.
      @namirai. 4 года назад +39

      Maybe he's just racing Albon too hard

    • @dustinmorrison6315
      @dustinmorrison6315 4 года назад +2

      learns what not to do

    • @monochromedout
      @monochromedout 4 года назад +11

      I wonder what happens when it's different cars. Like Lewis vs Max. When you take into account setups, downforce level, engine power, it all probably gets pretty skewed. Gotta suck for Albon, comparing himself to max's telemetry in full team meetings.

  • @ilikecereal156
    @ilikecereal156 4 года назад +42

    The amount of effort you put into the data points and lining them up with the track is insane.

  • @allenqueen
    @allenqueen 4 года назад +355

    Loved the episode. Would a real race telemetry analysis be possible on this channel?
    oh yea, one more sponsor crossed off of my Chain Bear's: Yoututer Sponsor Bingo Card.

    • @dyingearth
      @dyingearth 4 года назад +3

      Teams have real time telemetry as part of the pitwall software package for a while. They even have teams back at home base analysing the data and feeding the trends back to the pit letting the performance engineers know.

    • @jarnedeprins3617
      @jarnedeprins3617 4 года назад +1

      @@dyingearth You also just need so much people in a world like F1. I do it on my own for 2 cars and I can barely manage the work load if there are no issues. And if there are issues, well let's say sleep isn't always an option...

    • @cademckee7276
      @cademckee7276 4 года назад +3

      @@dyingearth I believe he was asking about looking at a real drivers data and not a fictional example. F1 teams probably aren’t gonna give out data but other series have either every cars live telemetry available to all the teams or just the fastest car telemetry but often they will have some limits on the data they give

    • @psirus89
      @psirus89 4 года назад +1

      If you want to:
      Download the free software Motec2.
      Its telemetry software.
      Maybe you can download somewhere some sample files from older races and have some fun with it.

    • @user-nj1qc7uc9c
      @user-nj1qc7uc9c 4 года назад

      i'd rather see qualifying telemetry analysis

  • @mr.randomgamer888
    @mr.randomgamer888 4 года назад +522

    Intresting, also oh no, he got ate up by raid

    • @GeniusLad32
      @GeniusLad32 4 года назад +151

      He asked on twitter if people would mind and the answer was basically an overwhelming "take the cash, mate".
      Mobile games offer big bucks.

    • @mr.randomgamer888
      @mr.randomgamer888 4 года назад +42

      @@GeniusLad32 fair enough, not that I am complaining about him doing it but rather at raid STILL existing

    • @mosadcoow
      @mosadcoow 4 года назад +17

      Raid can exist for eternity if it will pay creators because youtube does not care about them

    • @mr.randomgamer888
      @mr.randomgamer888 4 года назад

      @@mosadcoow yeah but one would think they finally got outta the spotlight and stuff can exist now without mentioning it

    • @JHA854
      @JHA854 4 года назад +6

      It’s easy to skip, he gets paid, it’s a win win

  • @lfc-europe
    @lfc-europe 4 года назад +117

    Monday just got a lot better.

    • @soschwarzwie
      @soschwarzwie 4 года назад +3

      ye until: "RAID SHADOW LEGENDS" hapoend

    • @EonthePeon
      @EonthePeon 4 года назад +3

      You mean bearable :)

  • @Good_Horsey
    @Good_Horsey 4 года назад +26

    Amazing how much of this I learned from playing Gran Turismo back in the day.

  • @deeacosta2734
    @deeacosta2734 4 года назад +33

    Chain Bear's voice makes me feel so calm. They should use him in a meditation app.

    • @dustinmorrison6315
      @dustinmorrison6315 4 года назад

      I wish all my classes in school had been taught by him.

  • @ArtyI
    @ArtyI 4 года назад +21

    7:58 You got this a little wrong. The outside (right side) would be loaded and inside (left side) would be lightened.

    • @brunooF1
      @brunooF1 4 года назад +2

      yeah i came down on comments to confirm this, thx

  • @goetzi2902
    @goetzi2902 4 года назад +13

    8:01 I think you meant a right hand turn. Because for a left turn the right side off the car would be outside and therefore loaded. No biggie, just noticed it.

  • @Olivyay
    @Olivyay 4 года назад +2

    You are the first person who got me to watch a video game ad in full. 😅

  • @motorsport5103
    @motorsport5103 4 года назад

    I'm from Spain and I've never seen a TY channel like this. By far the best channel.

  • @kylecramer8489
    @kylecramer8489 3 года назад +3

    I just found the channel and have been watching a bunch of your videos in a row. It's awesome to watch your animation skills improve!

  • @sebastianlim2499
    @sebastianlim2499 4 года назад +130

    0:20 you've ruined Harry Potter and Emma Watson for me...

    • @robertofontiglia4148
      @robertofontiglia4148 4 года назад +37

      Hadn't JK Rowling already ruined HP for you ?

    • @FoggyNBS
      @FoggyNBS 4 года назад +1

      I'm begging you, please read another book

    • @robertofontiglia4148
      @robertofontiglia4148 4 года назад +11

      @@FoggyNBS Being a Potter fan doesn't mean you don't read other books mate.
      When I was a kid, my parents would make me read all sorts of books to keep me waiting for the next Harry Potter to drop. I read Moby Dick when I was 9. I read a lot of Jules Verne. I read The Illiad and the Odyssey. I read Philip Pullmann's His Dark Materials trilogy. I reat the Lord Of the Rings -- and I've read countless other books you possibly haven't heard of because they're in French.
      It's very easy to look down on pop culture. It doesn't make you look or sound smarter. It makes you look conceited, snobbish and frankly insufferable. Please stop.

    • @ntlespino
      @ntlespino 4 года назад +1

      🤣

    • @clubpenguin13531
      @clubpenguin13531 4 года назад +1

      *improved

  • @stephanlaw
    @stephanlaw 4 года назад +114

    1:50 To skip the raid ad

    • @nathaliestarlight6372
      @nathaliestarlight6372 4 года назад +24

      Thank you! No offence to ChainBear but Raid-scrap is really one of the worst things you can advertise for

    • @IgnoreMyChan
      @IgnoreMyChan 4 года назад +13

      Non-mobile users should check out the browser plugin SponsorBlock. This will skip the sponsor automatically if some one already set it! Really awesome!

    • @copperaidan2246
      @copperaidan2246 4 года назад +1

      Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need

    • @edthri
      @edthri 4 года назад +9

      i was already to skip it but he made the funniest Raid Shadow Legends ad i've seen so far.

    • @nathanweiss5174
      @nathanweiss5174 4 года назад +2

      lol, don't skip the ad its funny... but really really don't download raid shadow legends

  • @randombarry23
    @randombarry23 4 года назад +2

    OH MY GOSH! Dude. This is incredible. So much thought and effort went into this!
    Thank you!

  • @jbkltc4469
    @jbkltc4469 4 года назад +2

    Excellent dive into data analysis. Being a cyclist, i often do the same checking my power, heartrate, speed, cadence etc. during my efforts, for example on a climb or after a race. The idea is the same, just the values differ. You really did explain it well, and i go through my plots in the same way you did :-)

  • @verifiedoffcomments9955
    @verifiedoffcomments9955 4 года назад +2

    I feel like a genius watching Chain Bear's videos

  • @foemre
    @foemre 4 года назад

    Best raid shadow legends ad i have watched ever. Deserves a thumbs up just for that

  • @y_fam_goeglyd
    @y_fam_goeglyd 4 года назад +1

    Thank you! Despite watching F1 for more years than I care to admit to, I think that's the first explanation of the data I've heard. Much appreciated!

  • @RacingStatistics
    @RacingStatistics 4 года назад

    The excitement when I see new Chain Bear video notification - PRICELESS!

  • @TheSpacecraftX
    @TheSpacecraftX 4 года назад +32

    8:03 In a left turn the right side of the car will not lift, as illustrated in your own animation. The right should be loaded.

    • @ghostofury9755
      @ghostofury9755 4 года назад +2

      yeah i think that maybe like a typo

    • @mrangrass
      @mrangrass 4 года назад +1

      Yep I agree as well. The side getting loaded is the side of the car opposite to the side in which your turning, in my experience.

    • @sebastiandierks7919
      @sebastiandierks7919 4 года назад +1

      Looked for that comment👍

    • @stormslasher32
      @stormslasher32 4 года назад

      I think he's on a different perspective, like looking at number 6 turns out to be number 9 at different pov

    • @AndrewGeierMelons
      @AndrewGeierMelons 4 года назад

      Yes it would, when you put more load on the right side, the left side has less load

  • @niethenerich
    @niethenerich 4 года назад +3

    Fun fact: if you play racing sims, you can use motec to get your own telemetry from your races

  • @Carole_Baskin
    @Carole_Baskin 4 года назад +1

    Raidy Shady has saved RUclips during their period of bizarre algorithm choices.

  • @adityaramachandran5223
    @adityaramachandran5223 4 года назад

    I'm working on building the telemetry system for our Formula SAE car and found this video extremely informative. Thanks for putting this good content out!

  • @DaylightDigital
    @DaylightDigital 4 года назад

    Unending Insight just changed my life

  • @annakrawczuk5221
    @annakrawczuk5221 4 года назад +1

    Palmer in his Mugello GP analysis had this AMAZING chart that compared speeds of different drivers at the same time, during the restart. Was great to look at.

  • @kukeleku13
    @kukeleku13 4 года назад +4

    Awesome video! Very well explained. You make F1 so much more interesting.

  • @BiRRdYYChannel
    @BiRRdYYChannel 4 года назад +2

    One of the best videos you have made so far!

  • @joshualewisjones
    @joshualewisjones 4 года назад

    it really is incredible how elegantly you take a complicated topic and convey it simply. bravo! 👏

  • @TDominoezz
    @TDominoezz 4 года назад

    I remember your tweet about this ad, I'm glad to see you did it!

  • @matthewlieder5599
    @matthewlieder5599 2 года назад

    I’m just getting in F1 these videos are a godsend

  • @sweater7630
    @sweater7630 4 года назад

    Love the ad. Entertaining in its own special way

  • @criodanomurchu1075
    @criodanomurchu1075 4 года назад

    This is one of the best videos you've ever done

  • @atullakhotia2854
    @atullakhotia2854 4 года назад +1

    This is so good! Thanks Chain Bear! Really insightful!

  • @noam9997
    @noam9997 4 года назад

    One of the best videos you done ever. Really liked it

  • @Personal_Chizo
    @Personal_Chizo 4 года назад

    Best Raid plug I've ever seen, mate. Well done.

  • @ducati4prez
    @ducati4prez 4 года назад +1

    Just getting into F1! Love these videos

  • @benoit9874
    @benoit9874 5 месяцев назад

    Honestly really good work!
    The sequence on roll and wheels speed are not often talked about !

  • @emilgeorgiev4369
    @emilgeorgiev4369 4 года назад

    The statistical analysis. It's so beautiful. 🤧

  • @a88senna
    @a88senna 4 года назад

    That was a massively helpful and interesting look at a topic that I always presumed was so confusing there was no point in trying to understand it.

  • @PiLOT395-
    @PiLOT395- 4 года назад

    The sponser section was actually pretty entertaining

  • @ProModsPerformance
    @ProModsPerformance 4 года назад +1

    Good video and overview! For what its worth, at least in the US, telemetry specifically is only the data obtained over the air while the car is on track. The data obtained from the car’s on board logging solution (always higher resolution and abundance) would generally be referred to as “logged data”.

  • @jason9875
    @jason9875 4 года назад

    Great video. Really cool insight into how drivers and teams use telemetry

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks 4 года назад +1

    Awesome and educational video. Keep up the good work.

  • @Tim_Ager
    @Tim_Ager 4 года назад

    The further reading part of the description reminding me of uni lectures

  • @thelostlibertine
    @thelostlibertine 4 года назад

    Hey Stu, really pleased you took the money and ran with Raid! Glad it gets you some security to make the content we love!

  • @AlpcanAras
    @AlpcanAras 4 года назад +2

    If these videos continue to come with that kind of information, it is safw to say that I will be fully qualified to be a trackside engineer graduated from ChainBearCollege.

  • @michaellavery4899
    @michaellavery4899 4 года назад

    Another super video. Like anything else scientific, the more you know, the more questions you ask.

  • @ganapathysubramanian2814
    @ganapathysubramanian2814 4 года назад

    u deserve at least a 10 million subs amazing video

  • @bevlad100
    @bevlad100 4 года назад

    The most CBA Raid advert ever !

  • @karabonathane3802
    @karabonathane3802 4 года назад

    I can't live my life without you🥺

  • @ryancahill4789
    @ryancahill4789 4 года назад

    These are the questions we should be asking

  • @Smoove7192937
    @Smoove7192937 4 года назад

    Awesome video! You made it easier to understand

  • @adslim9
    @adslim9 4 года назад

    Beautifully explained !

  • @josh8962
    @josh8962 4 года назад +66

    After I hear raid shadow legends:
    10>10>

    • @ahl.56
      @ahl.56 4 года назад +4

      big up aston villa

    • @fonzwonz5846
      @fonzwonz5846 3 года назад

      @@ahl.56 big up Leeds united

  • @manishjoshi2760
    @manishjoshi2760 4 года назад

    love your voice & videos ❤️, so many
    complex things of F1 but, your explanation makes it easier to understand...

  • @FAT8893
    @FAT8893 4 года назад

    Oh how I dearly miss playing GTR2. I used to see those telemetry all day long just to understand the whole drive.

  • @mattp7170
    @mattp7170 4 года назад +4

    Good stuff getting that Raid Shadow Legends bag lad

  • @phucnguyen0110
    @phucnguyen0110 4 года назад

    Even a Chainbear F1 video can't escape Raid: Shadow Legends lol.

  • @rjfaber1991
    @rjfaber1991 4 года назад

    With how compact this season has been so far, I have been a bit bored in the few weekends when there is no race. So this weekend I solved it by staying up all night and watching the Bathurst 1000. Man, that was some good racing...

  • @twallace755
    @twallace755 4 года назад +5

    i use the motec software for sim racing and i highly recommend it for any sim racers trying to get better

    • @watermelonbanana1772
      @watermelonbanana1772 4 года назад +1

      Cool where can I get this?

    • @twallace755
      @twallace755 4 года назад +2

      @@watermelonbanana1772 type in motec data software into google and should come up. Also google how to make it compatible with whatever games you wish. I use it for assetto corsa competizione And rfactor2

    • @DaylightDigital
      @DaylightDigital 4 года назад

      Motec is legit

  • @TimurIskhodzhanov
    @TimurIskhodzhanov 4 года назад +1

    Great video! The brake pedal pressure however isn't constant through a braking zone in F1 cars due to downforce.

  • @kkrsnn5632
    @kkrsnn5632 4 года назад

    Ahh finally, excellent video :)

  • @Johowow
    @Johowow 4 года назад

    And from now on every Formula 1 Driver Academy will use this video to tech their upcomming racingdrivers :D

  • @johnwhittaker311
    @johnwhittaker311 4 года назад

    This was actually really interesting

  • @stevenwilliams5014
    @stevenwilliams5014 4 года назад

    Great video Bear... Thank you

  • @BenjaminOommen
    @BenjaminOommen 4 года назад

    Never been this early to a chain bear video before.
    Feels um different.

  • @Stellar-Cowboy
    @Stellar-Cowboy 4 года назад +1

    Damn I love these notifications

  • @dolphinoegglet7263
    @dolphinoegglet7263 4 года назад

    I will use this for GT sport. Thanks CB

  • @jsquared1013
    @jsquared1013 4 года назад

    Pedantic note: the center of mass of the car doesn't really "move" under braking (technically it does if your perspective is relative to the road surface, *slightly*), the effect seen by the increased loading of the front tires is weight transfer.

  • @litgodfam1450
    @litgodfam1450 4 года назад +1

    Very nice vid well done

  • @mat1124
    @mat1124 4 года назад +1

    begining of the end, when i hear a 1minute ad about raid shaity legends

  • @omarian0
    @omarian0 4 года назад

    absolutely great content

  • @richardburke92
    @richardburke92 4 года назад

    Great content as always! Seeing the embedded Raid ad was weird 😂😂.

  • @king_br0k
    @king_br0k 4 года назад

    One of the best Raid shadow legends ads

  • @KlikTrack
    @KlikTrack 4 года назад

    Ha great video! I only now realize that your credit-roll-song is the same song featured in Dirt Rally 2.0

  • @christiangapp4663
    @christiangapp4663 4 года назад

    You only can compare to your teammate when you align the data before each corner and after each corner with a damper trace. Your kind of compare just works when both do the same distance (line). Otherwise its not clear if you lose or gain in a corner even with the time delta line. Just keep this in your mind.

  • @elmurcis1
    @elmurcis1 4 года назад

    Telemetry was (still is) best feature of F1 (and 99-02 game... as I keep using it as I like classic and i'm like dinosaur-31-yrs old who started watching F1 at 8... so all basic drivers I learned is from that time). Do some laps, check them out. Do some changes (gears/suspension/tire pressure/wings etc.), compare. Repeat. It really give that big feed-back loop vs just regular "yeah, drive around and... try to win or something..." it can get boring. But all that background of why car is fast and where it is slow and what one can do to cool that overstressed outer-front tire - it just gives much better understanding of actual racing. And can enjoy it more. Foreveeer.

  • @leonardoaraujo8364
    @leonardoaraujo8364 4 года назад

    I saw a vid about Schumacher X Barrichello telemetry. Schumacher braked early but less in The beggining of The braking.
    During The curve, Schumacher Kept more speed All The way. And used a lot The steering wheel to micro correct The car and have All The grip possible. It gave him 0.1s or more advantage in most corners. In The end of the lap, He had more than half a second advantage over Barrichello.
    Thats why there are some guys that really made difference At F1. Schumacher, Alonso, Verstappen, Hamilton... They do some things that The Team mate knows, sees At telemetry and Just cant reproduce.

  • @TheRacoonGhost
    @TheRacoonGhost 4 года назад

    huh, collor me impressed, this was the first Raid comercial i've seen that wasn't blatantly false. (tho it might be worth to mention that the only way to "be competative" is to shell out around 500£ a month.)

  • @aidan.22
    @aidan.22 4 года назад +1

    I love these videos

  • @TeufelHundSC2
    @TeufelHundSC2 4 года назад +12

    Raid Shadow Legends has even invaded Formula 1 videos! They're back to trying to take over the world!

  • @anoxRJ
    @anoxRJ 4 года назад

    Your videos are awesome.

  • @tonybowker2430
    @tonybowker2430 4 года назад

    Excellent explanation 😊

  • @cyrusthegreat3553
    @cyrusthegreat3553 4 года назад +48

    But everyone knows telemetry is just teleporting a meter

  • @AceixSmart
    @AceixSmart 4 года назад

    "...two minds and no heart"
    great video! nice explanation. I really didnt know suspension load was also tracked

  • @antonydigerlando5195
    @antonydigerlando5195 4 года назад +1

    Watched the video simply for the Raid Shadow Legends 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
    Was not disappointed

  • @MrDuckie228
    @MrDuckie228 4 года назад

    1:49 for the ad skip.
    Love the channel. But dont mind me skipping Raid...

  • @nover0570
    @nover0570 4 года назад

    This was a great video.

  • @bilalaf5308
    @bilalaf5308 4 года назад

    This is beautiful

  • @santiagomenesescruz5265
    @santiagomenesescruz5265 4 года назад

    Beautiful video

  • @rishishankarr3917
    @rishishankarr3917 4 года назад +1

    For a high speed left turn,the outside tire (right) will be loaded not the inside tire

    • @chainbear
      @chainbear  4 года назад +4

      Argh, you're so right. This is one of those things where I stared at it, thought about it, double checked, over thought it and un-corrected myself. Stupid face-on car angle.

  • @jeanc3167
    @jeanc3167 4 года назад

    Fantastic job

  • @GertvandenBerg
    @GertvandenBerg 4 года назад

    Non F1 uses of similar data: ABS uses individual wheel speed sensors - I assume when that is present, it acts when those obvious lockups occur... (Traction control as well. AFAIK, stability control involves some more sensors)

  • @redactado266
    @redactado266 4 года назад

    Thank you this was particulary great. Finally i will now how all those graphs in gran turismo are for