F1 Telemetry - How the car performance translates to those wiggly lines
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- Опубликовано: 9 дек 2024
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Drivers and teams use telemetry all the time to hone their driving, setup and design choices. But what does it all MEAN?
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I've learned more about the technical side of F1 in 2 hours of binging your videos than I've learned in half a decade of casual-to-serious F1 watching.
They don't teach this stuff at sky sports
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@@shinyenderman9999 *telemetry, not temelmatry
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That steering trace is very counterintuitive given you tend to picture the car going along the x axis.
Yes, right!? So the ATLAS stuff seems to output it that way, which is backwards in my opinion (for the reasons you said). And the Sauber computer (seem in the link in the description) does it the 'right' way. But I thought I should stick to the ATLAS version as it's the standard
What worked for me is to plot the left hand side to the line, so when the the wheel turn right, its left side goes up the x axis, when the wheel goes right, the left side goes down the x axis
@@novousuarionaoidentificado you mean imagining the car going in reverse? XD
Not that I'm a professional driver or engineer, but I always find the steering trace to be a bit useless anyway for data mining a lap on sims. Being able to tell at a glance how far from the center and if there are any jaggies are all you need.
I do agree though that it's in reverse that way in the video, intuitively speaking.
@@2Steps I don't get it, how can you see how far you are from the center and if there are any jaggies without a steering trace?
I just realized how big the disadvantage is, that Max has for not being able to compare his data with a teammate....
ouch...
He still can bit he probably won't learn out of it
Maybe he's just racing Albon too hard
learns what not to do
I wonder what happens when it's different cars. Like Lewis vs Max. When you take into account setups, downforce level, engine power, it all probably gets pretty skewed. Gotta suck for Albon, comparing himself to max's telemetry in full team meetings.
The amount of effort you put into the data points and lining them up with the track is insane.
Loved the episode. Would a real race telemetry analysis be possible on this channel?
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Teams have real time telemetry as part of the pitwall software package for a while. They even have teams back at home base analysing the data and feeding the trends back to the pit letting the performance engineers know.
@@dyingearth You also just need so much people in a world like F1. I do it on my own for 2 cars and I can barely manage the work load if there are no issues. And if there are issues, well let's say sleep isn't always an option...
@@dyingearth I believe he was asking about looking at a real drivers data and not a fictional example. F1 teams probably aren’t gonna give out data but other series have either every cars live telemetry available to all the teams or just the fastest car telemetry but often they will have some limits on the data they give
If you want to:
Download the free software Motec2.
Its telemetry software.
Maybe you can download somewhere some sample files from older races and have some fun with it.
i'd rather see qualifying telemetry analysis
Intresting, also oh no, he got ate up by raid
He asked on twitter if people would mind and the answer was basically an overwhelming "take the cash, mate".
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Amazing how much of this I learned from playing Gran Turismo back in the day.
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Me also!
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@@FoggyNBS Being a Potter fan doesn't mean you don't read other books mate.
When I was a kid, my parents would make me read all sorts of books to keep me waiting for the next Harry Potter to drop. I read Moby Dick when I was 9. I read a lot of Jules Verne. I read The Illiad and the Odyssey. I read Philip Pullmann's His Dark Materials trilogy. I reat the Lord Of the Rings -- and I've read countless other books you possibly haven't heard of because they're in French.
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7:58 You got this a little wrong. The outside (right side) would be loaded and inside (left side) would be lightened.
yeah i came down on comments to confirm this, thx
8:01 I think you meant a right hand turn. Because for a left turn the right side off the car would be outside and therefore loaded. No biggie, just noticed it.
Excellent dive into data analysis. Being a cyclist, i often do the same checking my power, heartrate, speed, cadence etc. during my efforts, for example on a climb or after a race. The idea is the same, just the values differ. You really did explain it well, and i go through my plots in the same way you did :-)
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8:03 In a left turn the right side of the car will not lift, as illustrated in your own animation. The right should be loaded.
yeah i think that maybe like a typo
Yep I agree as well. The side getting loaded is the side of the car opposite to the side in which your turning, in my experience.
Looked for that comment👍
I think he's on a different perspective, like looking at number 6 turns out to be number 9 at different pov
Yes it would, when you put more load on the right side, the left side has less load
OH MY GOSH! Dude. This is incredible. So much thought and effort went into this!
Thank you!
Fun fact: if you play racing sims, you can use motec to get your own telemetry from your races
Thank you! Despite watching F1 for more years than I care to admit to, I think that's the first explanation of the data I've heard. Much appreciated!
The excitement when I see new Chain Bear video notification - PRICELESS!
Palmer in his Mugello GP analysis had this AMAZING chart that compared speeds of different drivers at the same time, during the restart. Was great to look at.
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I'm working on building the telemetry system for our Formula SAE car and found this video extremely informative. Thanks for putting this good content out!
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Awesome video! Very well explained. You make F1 so much more interesting.
Good video and overview! For what its worth, at least in the US, telemetry specifically is only the data obtained over the air while the car is on track. The data obtained from the car’s on board logging solution (always higher resolution and abundance) would generally be referred to as “logged data”.
One of the best videos you have made so far!
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This is so good! Thanks Chain Bear! Really insightful!
This is one of the best videos you've ever done
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That was a massively helpful and interesting look at a topic that I always presumed was so confusing there was no point in trying to understand it.
One of the best videos you done ever. Really liked it
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Honestly really good work!
The sequence on roll and wheels speed are not often talked about !
Just getting into F1! Love these videos
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If these videos continue to come with that kind of information, it is safw to say that I will be fully qualified to be a trackside engineer graduated from ChainBearCollege.
Awesome and educational video. Keep up the good work.
The statistical analysis. It's so beautiful. 🤧
I’m just getting in F1 these videos are a godsend
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Great video. Really cool insight into how drivers and teams use telemetry
u deserve at least a 10 million subs amazing video
Pedantic note: the center of mass of the car doesn't really "move" under braking (technically it does if your perspective is relative to the road surface, *slightly*), the effect seen by the increased loading of the front tires is weight transfer.
The further reading part of the description reminding me of uni lectures
love your voice & videos ❤️, so many
complex things of F1 but, your explanation makes it easier to understand...
Another super video. Like anything else scientific, the more you know, the more questions you ask.
The sponser section was actually pretty entertaining
Great video! The brake pedal pressure however isn't constant through a braking zone in F1 cars due to downforce.
Awesome video! You made it easier to understand
Beautifully explained !
Great content as always! Seeing the embedded Raid ad was weird 😂😂.
Oh how I dearly miss playing GTR2. I used to see those telemetry all day long just to understand the whole drive.
Hey Stu, really pleased you took the money and ran with Raid! Glad it gets you some security to make the content we love!
i use the motec software for sim racing and i highly recommend it for any sim racers trying to get better
Cool where can I get this?
@@watermelonbanana1772 type in motec data software into google and should come up. Also google how to make it compatible with whatever games you wish. I use it for assetto corsa competizione And rfactor2
Motec is legit
You only can compare to your teammate when you align the data before each corner and after each corner with a damper trace. Your kind of compare just works when both do the same distance (line). Otherwise its not clear if you lose or gain in a corner even with the time delta line. Just keep this in your mind.
With how compact this season has been so far, I have been a bit bored in the few weekends when there is no race. So this weekend I solved it by staying up all night and watching the Bathurst 1000. Man, that was some good racing...
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Great video Bear... Thank you
Very nice vid well done
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Excellent explanation 😊
I saw a vid about Schumacher X Barrichello telemetry. Schumacher braked early but less in The beggining of The braking.
During The curve, Schumacher Kept more speed All The way. And used a lot The steering wheel to micro correct The car and have All The grip possible. It gave him 0.1s or more advantage in most corners. In The end of the lap, He had more than half a second advantage over Barrichello.
Thats why there are some guys that really made difference At F1. Schumacher, Alonso, Verstappen, Hamilton... They do some things that The Team mate knows, sees At telemetry and Just cant reproduce.
For a high speed left turn,the outside tire (right) will be loaded not the inside tire
Argh, you're so right. This is one of those things where I stared at it, thought about it, double checked, over thought it and un-corrected myself. Stupid face-on car angle.
I will use this for GT sport. Thanks CB
And from now on every Formula 1 Driver Academy will use this video to tech their upcomming racingdrivers :D
These are the questions we should be asking
I love these videos
Telemetry was (still is) best feature of F1 (and 99-02 game... as I keep using it as I like classic and i'm like dinosaur-31-yrs old who started watching F1 at 8... so all basic drivers I learned is from that time). Do some laps, check them out. Do some changes (gears/suspension/tire pressure/wings etc.), compare. Repeat. It really give that big feed-back loop vs just regular "yeah, drive around and... try to win or something..." it can get boring. But all that background of why car is fast and where it is slow and what one can do to cool that overstressed outer-front tire - it just gives much better understanding of actual racing. And can enjoy it more. Foreveeer.
absolutely great content
Great video, I hope the drivers have some kind of application on a tablet to zoom in qnd out and choose what charts and colours they want. It'd be a hassle to print different compositions.
Also, I know your videos are worthy whatever money you get (probably not enough), but, Raid Shadow Legends? I hope you can get better ways to be sponsored, you do god's work!
Silly response: come on, where would Formula One be without questionable sponsorships?
Serious response: Are you a patreon patron? He's currently sitting at $661/mo (presumably before taxes, not sure if that's before or after Patreon take their cut). That's... not a lot of money to live off. Whatever Stuart needs to hawk to pay the rent, the ramen, the internet and the F1TV subscription, I say cash that check.
@@GSBarlev Being silly: That's true and teams get trashed because of that too (richy richy something energy for drincs).
Being serious: I'm not a patron, sadly, and his work is worth a lot more than the figure you wrote. That's why I didn't straightly condemn him, but wanted to leave my impression on the subject. I can't say I wouldn't do the same.
Non F1 uses of similar data: ABS uses individual wheel speed sensors - I assume when that is present, it acts when those obvious lockups occur... (Traction control as well. AFAIK, stability control involves some more sensors)
great video again. I was wondering if you could do a video where you explain why so many teams like Racing Point, Mclaren, Red Bull and Renault have all of the sudden decided to go with a Mercedes-style narrow nose this year when they all previously used the wide noses with the little thumb on the end. Was very surprised to see all of them adopting to this design in exactly the same year.
Your videos are awesome.
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1:49 for the ad skip.
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This was a great video.
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great video! nice explanation. I really didnt know suspension load was also tracked
This is beautiful
Fantastic job
Very cool video!!
This was actually really interesting
But everyone knows telemetry is just teleporting a meter
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this was great - do you do more explainer videos ?
Great info❤