I talk about changes I would make to Fallout if I were to tinker with it today. These are not major changes, but instead the top bugs and quality of life problems I would fix.
I very distinctly remember Ian trapping me in a bathroom in Vault 15 the first time I ever played. It really can't be overstated just how much that push command improves the user experience in Fallout 2.
He moves away at random after a short while. So you are only "trapped" during that time. Having said that he push command from f2 should also have been in f1.
Funny enough, this problem is in Fallout 3 as well. If you sleep in your bedroom in Megaton, Fawkes can accidentally trap you inside there (his super mutant model blocks the bedroom door and I don't remember any push options).
@@fredrik3880 Oh yeah, I know he's supposed to walk around on his own. If I'm remembering right he stopped a few tiles from where I was, then random wandered to right in front of me. Either way, I waited for him to get out of the way for longer than I reasonably should have, then reloaded a save to get out of it. Even if I'm wrong, having to stop gameplay for an AI companion to get out the way is a pretty bad sign, and I remember being *so happy* when I saw the push command in F2.
REALLL when I was imprisoned in mariposa last month, I had to reload a save because while I probably could have escaped, tycho and ian bodyblocked me into the bed and I couldn't leave :( I found out you can just tell them to keep their distance tho and they usually back off
I would actually love to hear his general opinion of the modding community. Curious if he thinks it has changed the way Bethesda develops the Fallout games.
Joshua Sawyer had his JSawyer mod for Fallout New Vegas which I always thought was really really cool, but it was only really changes that he could make himself. If devs could be given the resources to have an extra 6 months to a year to add all the stuff which they wish they did, and fix all the stuff that they weren't able to then it would make for very very interesting games especially if it was for a few years after initial release
I guess engine limitations could be a block on modding. I know with Skyrim there are tend of thousands of mods that work with the original code but for really significant changes SKSE was created to work as a third party program that could add features outside of that. Unfortunately Microsoft don't allow third party programs so they aren't available on Xbox. Mind you Sony don't allow any outside assets at all which really affects modding on Playstation.
@@stuartmorley6894 That's the first time I hear of this, I didn't play Skyrim in over a year. If that's true, what will become of the Script Extender team? Do they still put out a version of their own that's just "not a hard requirement anymore", or did things not change much for them?
One thing that always drives me crazy are multiple dead people on one tile, or a dropped weapon and a dead person on the same tile. Picking what I want requires pixel hunting. Would be great if looting picked up all items on the tile.
eh, deliberateness, awareness, logic you can pick up one item at a time and it lets you know all that you're picking up - maybe I don't want to pick up everything - it seems people don't relaize how much hand-holding and do-it-for-me people have become dependent upon that truly makes no sense yes, if you're picking up the same item, allow to pick it up in one swoop or with the #### counter, but, there really are too many people not interested in playing the game but being played by the game, these days
It says a lot about how good and necessary those ideas are, because many of them were implemented later in Fallout 2 pretty much word-to-word with how you've said them.
People buying combat armor understand the caps 3 digit problem instantly. Ammo types not working comes to mind also. On the Outdoorsman skill I think the way in 2, it asks you if you want to have the encounter if your skill is at the level needed. Enemy turns all at once is so big brain.
also the crashed nuka cola truck... 0_0 when I found it I had high luck so it ended up having like 10k caps so moving it all to my inventory was a pain
When i first played Fallout (at a friend's house) neither of us knew you could type the number of bottlecaps you wanted to transfer. he would sometimes have me come over and click the mouse for him hundreds of times to buy something from a vendor (i could click really fast). Good times...
@@marvdaniels5603 _Pressure sensitive?_ I've never heard of a mouse with pressure sensitive buttons, nor have I heard of a game that supports such a thing.
@@bricaaron3978 The original Fallout was released on Mac, and early Macs had pressure-sensitive mouse buttons - they just got rid of them in later versions because nobody was using them. It was supposed to be for artists, the idea being you could use this to control line thickness like you would press a pen down.
@@thatonebritishidiot3037 *"...clicking and holding a button is technically pressure sensitive"* O.K., then _all_ buttons and keys are pressure sensitive --- _technically_ --- making the original usage superfluous. But that's not what 'pressure sensitive' means or has ever meant, _actually._ Come on! Are you _really_ doing this, lol?
Hi, Tim. Big fan of the original trimetric games! Just wanted to let you know that there is a great mod for Fallout 2, which is called "Fallout Et Tu". The mod recreates Fallout 1 on the engine of the 2nd game almost completely, and naturally implements most of the features that you had talked about. There are also a couple of optional features, which make the gameplay a lot smoother without ruining the balancing and feel of the game. Have a great day!
I never played Fallout, but seeing this much passion after decades of making it, I will have to play it. Thank you for showing us the person behind it.
Fallout is great. Fallout 2 is the best Fallout game, and one of the legendary games ever made. In 2023 it might be somewhat clunky, even with mods though.
@@txdmsk Fallout 2 used to be one of my fav games, but I played fo1 recently for the first time and completed it like 3 times in a month. Then came back to fo2 and... Idk, it just didn't hit the same. I don't think fallout 2 is really better than fallout 1 honestly. It has so many flaws that fallout 1 didn't have, which really sucks because it also fixed a lot of issues I had with the first game.
The longer i think about it, the more impressed I am that you guys managed to get the talking heads you did - for moving clay models, and those voice actors! You managed to get Mcguyver, Winnie the Pooh, Sgt Zim, Dr. Facilier, Hellboy, Monk, Dot, Penny, and the Supreme Being all in one game, that takes up only half a gig and came out in 1997. And dialog tracks for characters with low cha and int. So while some quality of life changes might be appreciated, I'm still glad we got what we did. If Fallout does ever get remastered, I hope they keep those, and maybe even get new lines from those voice actors (most of them are still around and nerdy!); but I hope they *don't* try to make the models 3d cgi, like the guys at Cyan did with the new Myst remaster - it lost some of its charm and unique aesthetic when they dropped the old fmv characters.
In another one of the videos Tim's done he talks about the voice acting and how lucky they were in the voice director they hired. Apparently he knew all those actors and was able to just call them up and ask if they wanted to do a few hours work for an easy pay cheque.
Oh god, those Myst models were so awful. It's like they actually made them with 90's Maya. So glad they listened to feedback and patched the FMVs back in. Remember, kids: embrace your limitations. If you don't have the resources to make good-looking animation, _don't use animation._ Find another way around and people will praise your creativity.
@@TheSkullPanda They weren't clay models right? I think thats what hes trying to say in an asshole way. I could be wrong but I thought they talked about them being 3d models when he spoke to the main artist at black isle/troika (forgiveme cant remember his name)
I think I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I really liked Hardcore Mode in Fallout: New Vegas. It added a survival feel to the game that seemed appropriate for a post-nuclear wasteland. If I were able to add something to the original Fallout and its sequel, it would probably be something like that, where you actually have to take stock of your water and your rations and so forth before going on long treks between towns. That would have also given the Outdoorsman skill a chance to flourish; right now, it's almost completely worthless in the original game.
All right lets break this down. Timothy Cain is more than capable of doing this. The man is Fallout. It's his IP that Interplay essentially fucked him out of. He was Fallout 1. Tried to save Fallout 2. The next 2 were shit because no Tim. Bethesda gets it, makes 3 it's a hit. Timothy IS Obsidian Entertainment. You guys know this. Timothy IS Fallout. And that's why New Vegas is the greatest Fallout game ever made. Prove me wrong. Because New Vegas was so good it's hard to argue that he should HD remaster 4 Trimetric games that he's going to heavily edit. We all know it would be fucking glorious. And after seeing Diablo 2 hd remaster and graphics swap I really want that. But I also really want him to remake them in the creation engine like New Vegas. Because New Vegas was so fucking good. Imagine going to Junktown in 3d and going down into the Dr.'s place finding that complete moron in the basement with body parts for the iguana on a stick. Or imagine fighting Gizmo or Decker. The deathclaw could actually be 20 ft tall like the tales say! The problem you have presented sir. Is now I want both and I'm about to beg the modding community who's making Fallout London to ask Obsidian to help them remake Fallout 1 and 2.
Your videos are awesome. I could listen to them for hours. There just isn’t many game designers/developers, let alone legendary ones, talking about their work in a relaxed long format like this. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and amazing experience!
@@theincrediblefella7984 Haha true. It's not exactly long. But in a time where 30secs "stories" rule in digital platforms, this 10mins-little-editing-and-no-background-music type of video is a blessing.
Love this video. All of your changes sound reasonable and I appreciate that you’d want to be light handed with fixes/changes as to not change what made Fallout so unique and memorable
The medical room in Vault 15, was infamous for forcing you to load your campaign. If Ian followed you to the wall locker, he would stand there forever, until you killed him.
Basically all of these issues were addressed in Fallout 2. In the countries of the former USSR, most players (including me) started from Fallout 2, and I remember how unusual it was to encounter things like the 3-digit limit or the inability to change the armor of a partner in Fallout 1, when you finally found this game on the local pirate CD market :)
Just wanted to say that your content is very interesting, informative, and wholesome. I’ve grown up with the games that you’ve helped to create and it’s just so cool being able to listen to you casually share your insights and experiences. Thanks for the great content Tim👍
Great video as always! Be awesome to see The Cain Cut of Fallout. I know it would take a ton of work and time that would take time away from your modern game work but it would be amazing to see you make a patch now that addresses all of the things you mentioned in the video. I know that there are fan patches that address some of the issues you mentioned but a directors patch would be incredible, a boy can dream!
I love your videos so, so much. Your upbeat presentation is incredible. The history of major game franchises being recorded is a treasure. Chef's kiss!
Thank you, and your team, for your contributions to the video game industry and so many precious teenage memories of playing Fallout 1. My best friend and I would just play the game in our respective characters and talk on the phone while we played and talked about what we saw and went over strategies and give each other play by play of major battles. Good. Times. ♥
I recently just bought Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics on sale and your vid just popped up! Thanks for making such an interesting, in-depth and engaging game, Tim!
This is so cool! When I was engrossed in Fallout for the first time in middle school, I didn't think that one day I will listen to one of the game's developers talk about things they would change in it.
It's funny how much I'm reminded of the moment to moment gameplay of a game I haven't played in a while just talking about inventory menus and number dials. The texture of the game is so memorable. I remember the fwoop plop of picking up and dropping items in inventory, cycling through to try to get the new stuff... and these changes would be small but great. I still wonder if an official mod would be possible
Would be fun to watch you do Let's Plays of games you worked on, see how much you remember. Playing them might bring more memories. With quality of mods of course. Especially ones that mirror what you mentioned here. Thank you again for this.
I've recently played Fallout, and an interesting tidbit is you can play the game almost perfectly and rather intuitively right out of the box with the Steam Controller. You can edit some settings if you need to, but almost everything is mapped from the start. Also really fun to play on Steam Deck. I set up a touch menu for the Skill Dex and it was wonderful!
I think its really cool that you talk about the development of Fallout 1 and what you would change. I don't think theres many developers so transparent about it! Anyway Tim, thanks for making my most favorite franchise of all time!
You are pretty well spot on with all these, they are exactly the things you hear people say they would like to see improved. If we ever got a Remaster, i would love to see all these changes and then done on a 3D engine but still isometric, like how Pillars is. Being able to pan and zoom would be lifechanging.
I thought about making a large list and emailing it to Tim about this kind of stuff and trying to get a video call with him, funnily enough he answered most of the questions I had. Thanks for reading my mind Tim!
One thing I always wanted when giving or taking items is to type in using numbers how much I want. Also an option that instantly ups it to max for either action would have been nice too. Because yeah, dealing with caps, especially after you dupe them, is grueling.
Combining all of the NPC turns into a single sequence would have been a great change. Basically you just calculate all of their moves and actions, giving priority to those earlier in the queue so they don't contradict each other, and then play back the visualization of all of those actions as one sequence. Then it would also make more sense when the player character is overwhelmed by enemies and dies, because you can see all of them attacking the character basically at the same time.
All good points, but to me the greatest oversight was that Killian Darkwater didn't have a Swiss Army Knife, an empty bubblegum wrapper and a paperclip in his inventory...
Yo Tim, don't know if you read the comments but your work means so much to me. Your one of the few people I consider to be my personal celebrities. Instant subscribe Thank you so much for everything. You, Avvelone, Lovecraft and Asimov are my greatest influences in my writing, thank you so so much
While it would seem the well of this enthusiasm and t-shits is bottomless, I've got to express my appreciation for this burst of productivity. It's really special to me getting new Cain thoughts basically everyday for this period while it lasts.
grid inventory, inventory categories, map drag instead of edge drift i think are essential sight lines for weapons would be nice to have (like what's in cover, what's targetable) as an optional toggle.
having good endings for the followers of the apocalypse and the hub would've been nice, that was my only major annoyance I recall from when I played fallout a few years ago. getting banished by the overseer felt like a powerful statement on how cruel the world of fallout could be but seeing the settlements and NPCs I interacted get killed despite me blowing up both the mutant strongholds within the time limit felt unfair. I understand those were cut content however and the game that was released under the constraints you were under is still my second favourite fallout story (played NV at 13 years old and it was my first rpg so nothing will ever surpass that experience). also increase the highest chance of hitting things to more than 95% because I still always miss lol
@@TheMasterUnityis it the Iguana Bob one by any chance? Always bothered me how you couldn’t solve that and the hub police go nuts on you even if you provoke him into attacking you first and you don’t have any weapons drawn. I had to settle for taking out the butcher and his cronies in Junktown and just assume that Bob’s supply would dry up.
@@TheMasterUnity I’ll need to give fan patches a try sometime. Farthest I’ve gotten with that is playing the Steam version which does seem to have some changes, namely with some of the settings to allow higher resolution and such that I was not previously familiar with. Not sure when this stuff was introduced but I don’t recall it on my original copy of FO1 or the Fallout Trilogy disc bundle I got on Amazon that was a European UK version of the 3 games.
Hey Tim. I love your videos and this one gave me a wild idea for you (even if you MAYBE thought about it before). Now when you are working with devs (i know, "only" as a consultant), whos "big mother" now owns Fallout, you can say a word or two, how could be great to implement some changes to original from original creator and release it again to make good few bucks. Even way wilder things were realized, but i think, you could talk about it way more than i ever could ;)
I'd suggest expanding the inventory bar's width to twice or thrice what it was, and make the hand boxes and armor display more compact, with armor stats being toggled by a menu button. Or perhaps toggling between the default inventory screen, and just your items in a grid of sorts, with using right click to equip to your character.
Thank you, Tim, for video and, of course, for the game I think Restoration project make many of this ideas in life I want to set it, finally, and play it again, but with another, fresh(or old) game experience ❤
Hey Mr. Cain, great video once again! I’ve went through and watched your catalog over the past few days. It’s inspiring to hear your perspective. I’m a younger person interested in game development and design and through watching your videos, I’ve gained an intense appreciation for the kinds of struggles and difficulties you guys had to face during this era. I also wanted to ask what your reaction was to Fallout 3 once it was revealed?
It's funny, because some of these changes you mention have already been done by some users in some modifications, such as "ddraw", "Sfall" (Sfall allows you to use the mouse wheel to scroll down and up in the game inventory) and the High Resolution Patch, to be able to play Fallout in resolutions even 1080p, although the hud looks small. But certainly the ideas you propose are very interesting, Tim, because you would keep the original design of the game, and that's great for me. Maybe some users will see this video and in the future make all these changes!
Sometimes I think these tiny imperfections actually add to a game. Like items adding to the end of inventory vs beginning or caps only being 999. It’s like something about these arbitrary limits adds something to the game instead of if everything was perfect and completely streamlined. It’s almost as if it sucks you in deeper mentally into the game because it’s a que telling you “this is a game” and you have to think “game” mentality instead of “real world” mentality.
Been a while since I've played it now, but if I remember correctly I missed some kind of inventory sorting and/or filter categories. Also, the slow battles especially in cities. Maybe having active combatants (friend or foe) going turnbased as per usual, and bystanders/neutrals in one simultaneous round. Other than that I just want more FO1/2 (or Arcanum) kind of games. :)
Fallout 2 had many of those quality of life improvements you speak of. Looks like someone was paying attention after you left. Fallout on Steam has resolution options as well. Since I played those games in my childhood, many of those little things don't bother me because its just the way the game was and added to its charm. I am ashamed to admit it, but I never played Arcanum when it came out. Honestly, I had never heard of it until I started following the channel. I wish I had because it seems like the sort of game I had been missing for years after Fallout 1 and 2. So I purchased it on Steam to give it a go... and I am sad to say that the struggle is real. She desperately needs some modern attention. But I haven't given up yet :) Sorry for the long post but here is my question... finally: If you were to "remake" or "remaster" FO1, FO2 (hypothetically), and Arcanum, would you keep the isometric 2D with quality of life updates or would you jump straight into 3D (like Wasteland 3 and not an FPS. The only reason I put up with that from Bethesda was because I love the environment and dark humor, which was lacking after FO1, and I was jonesing hard for a Fallout fix) and redo everything? Or would you combine and do a 2.5D with a fixed perspective? Thanks again!
What I would change apart of what you said? Higher res graphics and customizable render resolution. More concurrent sounds (there is 4 max). Optional 44khz sample rate sound. Better sound mastering, especially on the soundtrack - it sounds so dry even from cd audio. More content and locations. More meaningful random encounters - not the type of encounter and forget. Something like meeting someone that could be also met in a town or whatever. Not sure about that, but bandits/raiders or whomever shouldn't attack you in let's say random encounters unless they are pretty sure they can win. Otherwise what's the point? There should be almost none fanatical enemies that will hunt you until they are dead, unless heavily on drugs. Most enemies should run if just wounded or at least retreat back. I can't see a bandit that will continue to assault/rob someone if shot by a gun. One would gain XP for also not killing enemies, but repelling them. Npc's should behave in game like they would do in real life. Moving a lot, living their own life and striving to fulfill their own goals. Random encounters in towns. Whatever could be randomized, it should be randomized. Shuffled like cards, so every game is very different, yet the same in the core. Wounds would need a lot more time to heal. Big wounds/hp loss would require one to see the doctor, or high doctor skill. Because one can take shots and shots and just stimpack himself almost indefinetely. That is not exactly how rpg should roll. Hp loss would hurt performance of combat significantly, minor on other skills. Range of weapons and range of npcs sight would need to be increased dramatically. Optional fog of war for some ingame bonus, like hardcore mode in diablo gives you better item drop etc. Something, just not very significant.
i’d love to see you do a let’s play of a fallout game, preferably the first fallout. it would be really interesting to watch a dev play it and explain things as you go through as to how or why it was done. or vice versa; explaining what you liked or maybe would have done differently in a later fallout game.
A lot of those things were either present in F2 or modded in by fans throughout the years :) Any chance you could talk more in detail about the mechanics of Bloodlines like you did for Fallout and Arcanum? Things like the Humanity points, Masquerade points, how skills and attributes influence the game in ways people might not know about? I would really appreciate more Bloodlines content.
I’m currently playing fallout 1 for the first time and loving in! Impressed for the time. Still is a blast now, the beginning is hard but once you get through it’s great.
I remember running into the 3 digit problem basically immediately when I first sat down to do any amount of serious bartering in The Hub. Really, you're gonna make me transfer over 999 caps x 3 in order to buy the thing, then I had to do math to add/subtract to the exact amount.
Greetings Tim, 1st of all Fallout 1 is my favorite game of all time for some specific reasons and as of today, I would think that nothing would change the global experience. game is rough around the edges, resorted to guides on specific places on my 1st playtrough. but the alchemy is so perfect, its minimalistic, not that many quests and dialogues, but it hits right on the bullseye all the time. atmosphere, game design, writing, combat, theme, music. discovered the series with the 2nd in 1997 and Fallout 1 about a decade later when it came out on Gog. Maybe it's personnal and mileage may vary for many individuals but thanks, its a real masterpiece and it's flaws may be part of it's charm because it worked, it was a work of pure passion and as players we felt that.
Glad to hear you wouldn't change Fallout too much, because the game is about as close to perfect as it gets honestly. I am curious though: Dear Tim Cain, do you have opinions on Fallout Fixt and also Fallout 1 in 2/et tu? The latter in particular has a lot of great stuff from F2 and hews close to what you describe here.
Here's my suggestions: -Vendors should resupply every once in a while, especially dynamite and C4 because there is a finite amount of those in the game, which kinda sucks - More uses for ropes, I think there are only 3 instances where rope is useful (once in the glow, twice in vault 15) - Making traps and repair more useful, these skills are too situational - More radioactive places. In fo1 radiation is barely ever an issue and I think it's weird that in a nuclear wasteland there is only one radioactive place ( The glow). I think that would give more uses to radAways and RadX. - Balancing armors. Fallout has one of the best armor systems in any games I've played, using 3 different stats to determine defense (AC, DT and DR) but power armor is objectively the best armor for all 3 of these stats... The only exception is Tesla armor, which is more resistant to plasma and laser damage. There should be more armors with better AC but worse DT/DR and vice versa to give more variety to the game. - "Tell me About" is such a cool but underutilized idea, I wish it was better implemented. - A key to highlight interactible objects, items that you can pick up and countainers. This is such a gamechanger. - I don't think I've ever had a crippled limb in any of my playthroughs. Do enemies even target body parts ?
two things I wish were different are distance penalty and encounter map size. Reducing per meter distance penalty from 4% to 2% and quadrupling the encounter map size would be great.
Critical hit or miss where so fun I recall having an experience just the one Tim mentioned, going out early game, came across some raiders, shot, critical-miss left me blinded 😂. Another good one was in fallout 2 in the Den I think, theres a child with molotovs, threw one at me, critical hit, instant dead, "the chosen one" killled by a child with a molotov was hilarious to me.
To this day, since the 90s, I love to replay both games from time to time. During these years many dedicated people have made great mods that have implemented all of the things you've mentioned in this video. When it comes to item picking from the ground (multiple corpses), FOnline games added a hotkey to just target that particular hex and pick anything you want from there (no pixel hunting). Those are probably my favorite fan successors of the original (FOnline2238 and FOnline2). Both introduced so many great changes, from mixing real-time and turn-based combat, trading, crafting, base-building, faction building/wars and town-control fights. Truly something beautiful. The biggest challenge for them was attracting the player base, since most of the active player base were and still are the hardcore Fallout 1 & 2 fans. From what I've seen, Russian devs did the most of the work in that field and were the pioneers in making it a user-friendly online game. They're simply addicted to that game. tl;dr thank you for all the hard work and I hope that you like the love and work people are putting into your legacy. You have created something truly unique and timeless.
About the only complaint I had with Fallout 1, that you didn't mention, was the inventory menu (as opposed to the trade menu) having only one column of items to scroll through. It may have been a limitation of the resolution you were dealing with but it would have been easier if you'd had two to four columns so you could scroll through it faster.
Glad to see you do this retrospective. I'm not a game developer but I am a UI/UX developer. Didn't play Fallout when it came out but I love older games and just played it recently. Very fun game, cool setting and all, but yes your UI decisions were atrocious! I think I spent more time managing inventory than actually adventuring. You have to switch between so many menus to find out what items weigh, what they're worth, what their stats are. Should have had a party inventory screen where you can easily move stuff around in a grid, see what it does and what it weighs and what it's worth. In retrospect I'm using stuff like WoW and BG3 as references, but even contemporary games like Diablo did it better. Still love the game Tim.
As for the UI issues: I remember playing Fallout for a decent amount of time carrying the armour in my inventory and not in the armour slot thinking it was already worn by my character. When I found a better armour, I’d sell the old one and carry a better one in my inventory as well =) Imagine my shock when I was at my friend’s watching how he replaced the armour his character was wearing in the armour slot not just in the inventory!
Interestingly Tactics had the option to pass on an encounter, it was still annoying in a ways lol because you would get spammed with messages every couple seconds to avoid an encounter until you failed the outdoorsmen check and were roped into one anyway.
I'm 25. My father was the biggest fan of your games man. I just finished fallout 2 myself. Please don't allow this world to change you. Thank you. RIP Dad. Love ya.
I agree with these, but I’d also love to see some of the major changes you’d make to Fallout. I think it would be nice to see what the original creator would do with the IP today
I'd like see that Fallout he has hidden away somewhere, but the chances of that are probably as likely as seeing the outlines of the last three SW movies dreamed up by George Lucas. lol Here's hoping it gets made someday regardless.
@@lrinfi man I didn’t even know Lucas had three more movies thought up! I’d have loved to see that, too, but you’re correct that we aren’t gonna get to see either. Tim said that he’ll know when he sees elements of his “hidden” fallout in other games, but we unfortunately wont ever know which features exactly…
i think rather than making it easier to trade more caps, i prefer increasing the value of the cap so guns that are 5000 are only 500, maybe not that drastic but i feel like i never pick up 1/2 caps and everything i buy is at least 2 digits . i play new vegas and 3 with a mod that does something similar, i like the caps feeling more valuable, also less math, also less clicking in inventories / barter menus also new vegas’s other currencies did a good job of that too, with inherit world building as well
I very distinctly remember Ian trapping me in a bathroom in Vault 15 the first time I ever played. It really can't be overstated just how much that push command improves the user experience in Fallout 2.
#metoo moment
He moves away at random after a short while. So you are only "trapped" during that time. Having said that he push command from f2 should also have been in f1.
Funny enough, this problem is in Fallout 3 as well. If you sleep in your bedroom in Megaton, Fawkes can accidentally trap you inside there (his super mutant model blocks the bedroom door and I don't remember any push options).
@@fredrik3880 Oh yeah, I know he's supposed to walk around on his own. If I'm remembering right he stopped a few tiles from where I was, then random wandered to right in front of me. Either way, I waited for him to get out of the way for longer than I reasonably should have, then reloaded a save to get out of it. Even if I'm wrong, having to stop gameplay for an AI companion to get out the way is a pretty bad sign, and I remember being *so happy* when I saw the push command in F2.
REALLL when I was imprisoned in mariposa last month, I had to reload a save because while I probably could have escaped, tycho and ian bodyblocked me into the bed and I couldn't leave :( I found out you can just tell them to keep their distance tho and they usually back off
It's kinda cool that modders have had similar ideas and implemented many of them. Have you played any of your games with mods, Tim?
This is something i would love to know about
Just checked the mod - it has 166 talking heads and 40 are voiced!
Maybe he's secretly one of the modders
I would actually love to hear his general opinion of the modding community. Curious if he thinks it has changed the way Bethesda develops the Fallout games.
Tim Cain pls do lets play of Fallout Nevada
Joshua Sawyer had his JSawyer mod for Fallout New Vegas which I always thought was really really cool, but it was only really changes that he could make himself. If devs could be given the resources to have an extra 6 months to a year to add all the stuff which they wish they did, and fix all the stuff that they weren't able to then it would make for very very interesting games
especially if it was for a few years after initial release
I guess engine limitations could be a block on modding. I know with Skyrim there are tend of thousands of mods that work with the original code but for really significant changes SKSE was created to work as a third party program that could add features outside of that. Unfortunately Microsoft don't allow third party programs so they aren't available on Xbox. Mind you Sony don't allow any outside assets at all which really affects modding on Playstation.
@@stuartmorley6894SKSE is no longer necessary for many mods after a change made like a year ago
@@aniquinstark4347 are you meaning for PC? I've been out of playing for about six months so I didn't actually know that.
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@@stuartmorley6894 That's the first time I hear of this, I didn't play Skyrim in over a year. If that's true, what will become of the Script Extender team? Do they still put out a version of their own that's just "not a hard requirement anymore", or did things not change much for them?
One thing that always drives me crazy are multiple dead people on one tile, or a dropped weapon and a dead person on the same tile. Picking what I want requires pixel hunting. Would be great if looting picked up all items on the tile.
You're right, that would be a good addition. We did that in Arcanum. Multiple dead in one tile coalesced into a loot pile.
eh, deliberateness, awareness, logic
you can pick up one item at a time and it lets you know all that you're picking up - maybe I don't want to pick up everything - it seems people don't relaize how much hand-holding and do-it-for-me people have become dependent upon that truly makes no sense
yes, if you're picking up the same item, allow to pick it up in one swoop or with the #### counter, but, there really are too many people not interested in playing the game but being played by the game, these days
@@zerpblerd5966 "Those pesky, entitled gamers not wanting to waste time on pixel perfect mouse placements, grrrrr"
@@zurcus7224 that's not what I said means at all
@@zerpblerd5966Yes it is.
It says a lot about how good and necessary those ideas are, because many of them were implemented later in Fallout 2 pretty much word-to-word with how you've said them.
He worked on 2 a little bit right? I wonder if he's the one who implemented that stuff
@@SamEmilio2doubtful. He had little to do with 2if anything.
@@trompell0 if anything? dude he literally mentioned a contribution to Fallout 2 in this video
@@Anim0sityy I know. I tiny one. I listened to his talk with Leonard. They didn't seem to have much to do with it if I judging what I heard correctly.
@@trompell0 I'm not implying he did major work on it but your wording is a bit disrespectful don't you think?
People buying combat armor understand the caps 3 digit problem instantly.
Ammo types not working comes to mind also.
On the Outdoorsman skill I think the way in 2, it asks you if you want to have the encounter if your skill is at the level needed.
Enemy turns all at once is so big brain.
That's right! The ammo types in Fallout 1 didn't work. I think there is a mod that fixes this.
also the crashed nuka cola truck... 0_0 when I found it I had high luck so it ended up having like 10k caps so moving it all to my inventory was a pain
When i first played Fallout (at a friend's house) neither of us knew you could type the number of bottlecaps you wanted to transfer. he would sometimes have me come over and click the mouse for him hundreds of times to buy something from a vendor (i could click really fast). Good times...
You can either type in the number of bottlecaps or click+hold the button [pressure sensitive] and the numbers would accelerate quicker. 💡
@@marvdaniels5603 _Pressure sensitive?_ I've never heard of a mouse with pressure sensitive buttons, nor have I heard of a game that supports such a thing.
@@bricaaron3978 The original Fallout was released on Mac, and early Macs had pressure-sensitive mouse buttons - they just got rid of them in later versions because nobody was using them. It was supposed to be for artists, the idea being you could use this to control line thickness like you would press a pen down.
@@bricaaron3978 they're not wrong, clicking and holding a button is technically pressure sensitive
@@thatonebritishidiot3037 *"...clicking and holding a button is technically pressure sensitive"*
O.K., then _all_ buttons and keys are pressure sensitive --- _technically_ --- making the original usage superfluous. But that's not what 'pressure sensitive' means or has ever meant, _actually._
Come on! Are you _really_ doing this, lol?
Hi, Tim. Big fan of the original trimetric games! Just wanted to let you know that there is a great mod for Fallout 2, which is called "Fallout Et Tu". The mod recreates Fallout 1 on the engine of the 2nd game almost completely, and naturally implements most of the features that you had talked about. There are also a couple of optional features, which make the gameplay a lot smoother without ruining the balancing and feel of the game. Have a great day!
I'll have to look for this. It's still a game I play every 2 or 3 years, but some QOL improvements are certainly welcome.
I never played Fallout, but seeing this much passion after decades of making it, I will have to play it. Thank you for showing us the person behind it.
Fallout is great. Fallout 2 is the best Fallout game, and one of the legendary games ever made. In 2023 it might be somewhat clunky, even with mods though.
@@txdmsk Fallout 2 used to be one of my fav games, but I played fo1 recently for the first time and completed it like 3 times in a month. Then came back to fo2 and... Idk, it just didn't hit the same. I don't think fallout 2 is really better than fallout 1 honestly. It has so many flaws that fallout 1 didn't have, which really sucks because it also fixed a lot of issues I had with the first game.
The longer i think about it, the more impressed I am that you guys managed to get the talking heads you did - for moving clay models, and those voice actors! You managed to get Mcguyver, Winnie the Pooh, Sgt Zim, Dr. Facilier, Hellboy, Monk, Dot, Penny, and the Supreme Being all in one game, that takes up only half a gig and came out in 1997. And dialog tracks for characters with low cha and int. So while some quality of life changes might be appreciated, I'm still glad we got what we did. If Fallout does ever get remastered, I hope they keep those, and maybe even get new lines from those voice actors (most of them are still around and nerdy!); but I hope they *don't* try to make the models 3d cgi, like the guys at Cyan did with the new Myst remaster - it lost some of its charm and unique aesthetic when they dropped the old fmv characters.
no
In another one of the videos Tim's done he talks about the voice acting and how lucky they were in the voice director they hired. Apparently he knew all those actors and was able to just call them up and ask if they wanted to do a few hours work for an easy pay cheque.
Oh god, those Myst models were so awful. It's like they actually made them with 90's Maya. So glad they listened to feedback and patched the FMVs back in.
Remember, kids: embrace your limitations. If you don't have the resources to make good-looking animation, _don't use animation._ Find another way around and people will praise your creativity.
@@zerpblerd5966 no?
@@TheSkullPanda They weren't clay models right? I think thats what hes trying to say in an asshole way. I could be wrong but I thought they talked about them being 3d models when he spoke to the main artist at black isle/troika (forgiveme cant remember his name)
I think I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I really liked Hardcore Mode in Fallout: New Vegas. It added a survival feel to the game that seemed appropriate for a post-nuclear wasteland.
If I were able to add something to the original Fallout and its sequel, it would probably be something like that, where you actually have to take stock of your water and your rations and so forth before going on long treks between towns. That would have also given the Outdoorsman skill a chance to flourish; right now, it's almost completely worthless in the original game.
Hello MICROSOFT, are you watching this? Please let this man remaster the classic Fallout games. That's all.
All right lets break this down.
Timothy Cain is more than capable of doing this. The man is Fallout. It's his IP that Interplay essentially fucked him out of. He was Fallout 1. Tried to save Fallout 2. The next 2 were shit because no Tim. Bethesda gets it, makes 3 it's a hit. Timothy IS Obsidian Entertainment. You guys know this. Timothy IS Fallout. And that's why New Vegas is the greatest Fallout game ever made. Prove me wrong.
Because New Vegas was so good it's hard to argue that he should HD remaster 4 Trimetric games that he's going to heavily edit. We all know it would be fucking glorious. And after seeing Diablo 2 hd remaster and graphics swap I really want that. But I also really want him to remake them in the creation engine like New Vegas. Because New Vegas was so fucking good. Imagine going to Junktown in 3d and going down into the Dr.'s place finding that complete moron in the basement with body parts for the iguana on a stick. Or imagine fighting Gizmo or Decker. The deathclaw could actually be 20 ft tall like the tales say!
The problem you have presented sir. Is now I want both and I'm about to beg the modding community who's making Fallout London to ask Obsidian to help them remake Fallout 1 and 2.
@@Zanenoth Tim Cain didn't work on New Vegas at all
@@Zanenoth fuck no. Fallout is not a 3d shooter or skyrim with guns.
@@jedenzet new vegas is good though? plus franchises do this magical thing called evolve
@@Zanenoth ...tim had nothing to do with new vegas, also this is fallout tactics slander, and I will not stand for it
Your videos are awesome. I could listen to them for hours. There just isn’t many game designers/developers, let alone legendary ones, talking about their work in a relaxed long format like this. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and amazing experience!
11 minutes is a long format?
@@theincrediblefella7984 Haha true. It's not exactly long. But in a time where 30secs "stories" rule in digital platforms, this 10mins-little-editing-and-no-background-music type of video is a blessing.
Man how is this channel not massive, this is the father of fallout who revolutionized western RPG games
Love this video. All of your changes sound reasonable and I appreciate that you’d want to be light handed with fixes/changes as to not change what made Fallout so unique and memorable
The medical room in Vault 15, was infamous for forcing you to load your campaign. If Ian followed you to the wall locker, he would stand there forever, until you killed him.
Kinda makes me glad that I always ransacked Vault 15 before I recruited Ian.
Watching these as I’m playing through NV 💖 thank you for the uploads Tim. Thank you for making my favorite game series of all time and space
Basically all of these issues were addressed in Fallout 2.
In the countries of the former USSR, most players (including me) started from Fallout 2, and I remember how unusual it was to encounter things like the 3-digit limit or the inability to change the armor of a partner in Fallout 1, when you finally found this game on the local pirate CD market :)
I watch these after I get out of class on the long drive home. it’s honestly a super hype part of my day. Thanks for the vids man.
I love listening to these when I cook every morning. Very insightful and fun, thanks Tim!
Just wanted to say that your content is very interesting, informative, and wholesome. I’ve grown up with the games that you’ve helped to create and it’s just so cool being able to listen to you casually share your insights and experiences.
Thanks for the great content Tim👍
Great video as always!
Be awesome to see The Cain Cut of Fallout.
I know it would take a ton of work and time that would take time away from your modern game work but it would be amazing to see you make a patch now that addresses all of the things you mentioned in the video. I know that there are fan patches that address some of the issues you mentioned but a directors patch would be incredible, a boy can dream!
Thanks for the video, was having a hard time actually starting today but gamedev stories from you are always very motivating.
Its really nice to listen to these perspectives thank you for making them!
I love your videos so, so much. Your upbeat presentation is incredible. The history of major game franchises being recorded is a treasure. Chef's kiss!
Thank you, and your team, for your contributions to the video game industry and so many precious teenage memories of playing Fallout 1. My best friend and I would just play the game in our respective characters and talk on the phone while we played and talked about what we saw and went over strategies and give each other play by play of major battles.
Good. Times. ♥
Tim, thanks for doin these vids. Esp the fallout ones. I love getting to hear your dev experiences.
Thanks for this discussion and look back on Fallout! It's very cool to hear your perspective.
I recently just bought Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics on sale and your vid just popped up! Thanks for making such an interesting, in-depth and engaging game, Tim!
Hi, good to know, i making now FALLOUT 2 Remake maybe i use your ideas :) as 3D action FPS
I saw your project a few months ago. You‘re a legend!
@@smartlp4782 Hello, happy to read that. legend is Tim, he create all mechanics and core of game
@@jonaszIGD will you get cease n desist letter 💌💌💌💌💌💌💌
@@Lbf5677i have greenlight from Bethesda
This is so cool! When I was engrossed in Fallout for the first time in middle school, I didn't think that one day I will listen to one of the game's developers talk about things they would change in it.
I would buy a remaster of Fallout 1 in a heartbeat.
Same!
It's funny how much I'm reminded of the moment to moment gameplay of a game I haven't played in a while just talking about inventory menus and number dials. The texture of the game is so memorable. I remember the fwoop plop of picking up and dropping items in inventory, cycling through to try to get the new stuff... and these changes would be small but great. I still wonder if an official mod would be possible
The idea of bethesda hiring Tim to remake fallout as a new action game is something i dream of
Great topic! Thanks, TIm, love your videos and insights!
Would be fun to watch you do Let's Plays of games you worked on, see how much you remember. Playing them might bring more memories. With quality of mods of course. Especially ones that mirror what you mentioned here. Thank you again for this.
I've recently played Fallout, and an interesting tidbit is you can play the game almost perfectly and rather intuitively right out of the box with the Steam Controller. You can edit some settings if you need to, but almost everything is mapped from the start.
Also really fun to play on Steam Deck. I set up a touch menu for the Skill Dex and it was wonderful!
These kind of retrospective-videos from game creators are really useful, thanks for sharing!!
This is so cool. All of these changes sound great!
I think its really cool that you talk about the development of Fallout 1 and what you would change. I don't think theres many developers so transparent about it! Anyway Tim, thanks for making my most favorite franchise of all time!
You are pretty well spot on with all these, they are exactly the things you hear people say they would like to see improved. If we ever got a Remaster, i would love to see all these changes and then done on a 3D engine but still isometric, like how Pillars is. Being able to pan and zoom would be lifechanging.
Thanks for the video. interesting talk Cain. Looking forward to the next.
I thought about making a large list and emailing it to Tim about this kind of stuff and trying to get a video call with him, funnily enough he answered most of the questions I had. Thanks for reading my mind Tim!
Love your vids, Tim! Looking forward to more!
One thing I always wanted when giving or taking items is to type in using numbers how much I want. Also an option that instantly ups it to max for either action would have been nice too. Because yeah, dealing with caps, especially after you dupe them, is grueling.
Combining all of the NPC turns into a single sequence would have been a great change. Basically you just calculate all of their moves and actions, giving priority to those earlier in the queue so they don't contradict each other, and then play back the visualization of all of those actions as one sequence. Then it would also make more sense when the player character is overwhelmed by enemies and dies, because you can see all of them attacking the character basically at the same time.
this is a great list, and it’s all totally true. someone should make a “cain cut” mod implementing as many of these changes as are feasible!
All good points, but to me the greatest oversight was that Killian Darkwater didn't have a Swiss Army Knife, an empty bubblegum wrapper and a paperclip in his inventory...
Great video Tim! From ya friend down under 😊
Yo Tim, don't know if you read the comments but your work means so much to me. Your one of the few people I consider to be my personal celebrities.
Instant subscribe
Thank you so much for everything. You, Avvelone, Lovecraft and Asimov are my greatest influences in my writing, thank you so so much
While it would seem the well of this enthusiasm and t-shits is bottomless, I've got to express my appreciation for this burst of productivity. It's really special to me getting new Cain thoughts basically everyday for this period while it lasts.
As someone who played fallout for the first time recently I agree with all these changes and was happy to see most of them in fallout 2
grid inventory, inventory categories, map drag instead of edge drift i think are essential
sight lines for weapons would be nice to have (like what's in cover, what's targetable) as an optional toggle.
Just stopping by to say - thanks for your work on this franchise.
having good endings for the followers of the apocalypse and the hub would've been nice, that was my only major annoyance I recall from when I played fallout a few years ago. getting banished by the overseer felt like a powerful statement on how cruel the world of fallout could be but seeing the settlements and NPCs I interacted get killed despite me blowing up both the mutant strongholds within the time limit felt unfair. I understand those were cut content however and the game that was released under the constraints you were under is still my second favourite fallout story (played NV at 13 years old and it was my first rpg so nothing will ever surpass that experience). also increase the highest chance of hitting things to more than 95% because I still always miss lol
The Boneyard ending is bugged, but there is a good ending for the Hub. Theres pre-requisite quests, and I think you have to kill Decker.
@@Kaiserhawk Hub ending was bugged too, as it required the completion of a quest absent from the game. Same deal with the Followers.
@@TheMasterUnityis it the Iguana Bob one by any chance? Always bothered me how you couldn’t solve that and the hub police go nuts on you even if you provoke him into attacking you first and you don’t have any weapons drawn. I had to settle for taking out the butcher and his cronies in Junktown and just assume that Bob’s supply would dry up.
@@TheLastLineLive Sure is, Killap's patch fixes this though.
@@TheMasterUnity I’ll need to give fan patches a try sometime. Farthest I’ve gotten with that is playing the Steam version which does seem to have some changes, namely with some of the settings to allow higher resolution and such that I was not previously familiar with. Not sure when this stuff was introduced but I don’t recall it on my original copy of FO1 or the Fallout Trilogy disc bundle I got on Amazon that was a European UK version of the 3 games.
My teenage brain would have exploded if I had known way back that I'd someday have access to a video like this. This is so cool.
Hey Tim. I love your videos and this one gave me a wild idea for you (even if you MAYBE thought about it before). Now when you are working with devs (i know, "only" as a consultant), whos "big mother" now owns Fallout, you can say a word or two, how could be great to implement some changes to original from original creator and release it again to make good few bucks. Even way wilder things were realized, but i think, you could talk about it way more than i ever could ;)
I'd suggest expanding the inventory bar's width to twice or thrice what it was, and make the hand boxes and armor display more compact, with armor stats being toggled by a menu button. Or perhaps toggling between the default inventory screen, and just your items in a grid of sorts, with using right click to equip to your character.
Thank you, Tim, for video and, of course, for the game
I think Restoration project make many of this ideas in life
I want to set it, finally, and play it again, but with another, fresh(or old) game experience ❤
Hey Mr. Cain, great video once again! I’ve went through and watched your catalog over the past few days. It’s inspiring to hear your perspective. I’m a younger person interested in game development and design and through watching your videos, I’ve gained an intense appreciation for the kinds of struggles and difficulties you guys had to face during this era. I also wanted to ask what your reaction was to Fallout 3 once it was revealed?
I remember wanting to have access to energy weapons early back then, especially the plasma ones which I loved
It's funny, because some of these changes you mention have already been done by some users in some modifications, such as "ddraw", "Sfall" (Sfall allows you to use the mouse wheel to scroll down and up in the game inventory) and the High Resolution Patch, to be able to play Fallout in resolutions even 1080p, although the hud looks small.
But certainly the ideas you propose are very interesting, Tim, because you would keep the original design of the game, and that's great for me. Maybe some users will see this video and in the future make all these changes!
Sometimes I think these tiny imperfections actually add to a game. Like items adding to the end of inventory vs beginning or caps only being 999. It’s like something about these arbitrary limits adds something to the game instead of if everything was perfect and completely streamlined. It’s almost as if it sucks you in deeper mentally into the game because it’s a que telling you “this is a game” and you have to think “game” mentality instead of “real world” mentality.
Been a while since I've played it now, but if I remember correctly I missed some kind of inventory sorting and/or filter categories.
Also, the slow battles especially in cities. Maybe having active combatants (friend or foe) going turnbased as per usual, and bystanders/neutrals in one simultaneous round.
Other than that I just want more FO1/2 (or Arcanum) kind of games. :)
Dude, the pressure of those right-click menus when you have an active bomb in your pocket is one of my favorite moments in the game :))
Fallout 2 had many of those quality of life improvements you speak of. Looks like someone was paying attention after you left. Fallout on Steam has resolution options as well. Since I played those games in my childhood, many of those little things don't bother me because its just the way the game was and added to its charm.
I am ashamed to admit it, but I never played Arcanum when it came out. Honestly, I had never heard of it until I started following the channel. I wish I had because it seems like the sort of game I had been missing for years after Fallout 1 and 2. So I purchased it on Steam to give it a go... and I am sad to say that the struggle is real. She desperately needs some modern attention. But I haven't given up yet :)
Sorry for the long post but here is my question... finally: If you were to "remake" or "remaster" FO1, FO2 (hypothetically), and Arcanum, would you keep the isometric 2D with quality of life updates or would you jump straight into 3D (like Wasteland 3 and not an FPS. The only reason I put up with that from Bethesda was because I love the environment and dark humor, which was lacking after FO1, and I was jonesing hard for a Fallout fix) and redo everything? Or would you combine and do a 2.5D with a fixed perspective?
Thanks again!
Drog black tooth does a great arcanum patch
Lots of people who enjoy turn-based or FPS style games tend to dislike the other, I'm glad I just like both :D
Love to hear that stuff, love OG Fallout, big fan
I did kind of like the caps moving capped at 999, it felt like I was moving literal loads of caps manually.
This channel is a dream come true
We need a modern re-release! Would love you to make it Tim!
What I would change apart of what you said?
Higher res graphics and customizable render resolution. More concurrent sounds (there is 4 max). Optional 44khz sample rate sound. Better sound mastering, especially on the soundtrack - it sounds so dry even from cd audio.
More content and locations. More meaningful random encounters - not the type of encounter and forget. Something like meeting someone that could be also met in a town or whatever. Not sure about that, but bandits/raiders or whomever shouldn't attack you in let's say random encounters unless they are pretty sure they can win. Otherwise what's the point? There should be almost none fanatical enemies that will hunt you until they are dead, unless heavily on drugs. Most enemies should run if just wounded or at least retreat back. I can't see a bandit that will continue to assault/rob someone if shot by a gun. One would gain XP for also not killing enemies, but repelling them.
Npc's should behave in game like they would do in real life. Moving a lot, living their own life and striving to fulfill their own goals. Random encounters in towns. Whatever could be randomized, it should be randomized. Shuffled like cards, so every game is very different, yet the same in the core.
Wounds would need a lot more time to heal. Big wounds/hp loss would require one to see the doctor, or high doctor skill. Because one can take shots and shots and just stimpack himself almost indefinetely. That is not exactly how rpg should roll. Hp loss would hurt performance of combat significantly, minor on other skills.
Range of weapons and range of npcs sight would need to be increased dramatically.
Optional fog of war for some ingame bonus, like hardcore mode in diablo gives you better item drop etc. Something, just not very significant.
i’d love to see you do a let’s play of a fallout game, preferably the first fallout. it would be really interesting to watch a dev play it and explain things as you go through as to how or why it was done. or vice versa; explaining what you liked or maybe would have done differently in a later fallout game.
A lot of those things were either present in F2 or modded in by fans throughout the years :)
Any chance you could talk more in detail about the mechanics of Bloodlines like you did for Fallout and Arcanum?
Things like the Humanity points, Masquerade points, how skills and attributes influence the game in ways people might not know about?
I would really appreciate more Bloodlines content.
I’m currently playing fallout 1 for the first time and loving in! Impressed for the time. Still is a blast now, the beginning is hard but once you get through it’s great.
I remember running into the 3 digit problem basically immediately when I first sat down to do any amount of serious bartering in The Hub.
Really, you're gonna make me transfer over 999 caps x 3 in order to buy the thing, then I had to do math to add/subtract to the exact amount.
This was some VERY cool insight
Greetings Tim, 1st of all Fallout 1 is my favorite game of all time for some specific reasons and as of today, I would think that nothing would change the global experience. game is rough around the edges, resorted to guides on specific places on my 1st playtrough. but the alchemy is so perfect, its minimalistic, not that many quests and dialogues, but it hits right on the bullseye all the time. atmosphere, game design, writing, combat, theme, music. discovered the series with the 2nd in 1997 and Fallout 1 about a decade later when it came out on Gog.
Maybe it's personnal and mileage may vary for many individuals but thanks, its a real masterpiece and it's flaws may be part of it's charm because it worked, it was a work of pure passion and as players we felt that.
Glad to hear you wouldn't change Fallout too much, because the game is about as close to perfect as it gets honestly. I am curious though: Dear Tim Cain, do you have opinions on Fallout Fixt and also Fallout 1 in 2/et tu? The latter in particular has a lot of great stuff from F2 and hews close to what you describe here.
I would love to hear your experience of seeing Fallout 3 for the first time
Here's my suggestions:
-Vendors should resupply every once in a while, especially dynamite and C4 because there is a finite amount of those in the game, which kinda sucks
- More uses for ropes, I think there are only 3 instances where rope is useful (once in the glow, twice in vault 15)
- Making traps and repair more useful, these skills are too situational
- More radioactive places. In fo1 radiation is barely ever an issue and I think it's weird that in a nuclear wasteland there is only one radioactive place ( The glow). I think that would give more uses to radAways and RadX.
- Balancing armors. Fallout has one of the best armor systems in any games I've played, using 3 different stats to determine defense (AC, DT and DR) but power armor is objectively the best armor for all 3 of these stats... The only exception is Tesla armor, which is more resistant to plasma and laser damage. There should be more armors with better AC but worse DT/DR and vice versa to give more variety to the game.
- "Tell me About" is such a cool but underutilized idea, I wish it was better implemented.
- A key to highlight interactible objects, items that you can pick up and countainers. This is such a gamechanger.
- I don't think I've ever had a crippled limb in any of my playthroughs. Do enemies even target body parts ?
Tim, I was wondering what happened to the original clay models used for the talking heads in fallout 1 & 2, and where are they now?
One got sold at auction recently, iirc. They're still floating around out there, but they're collector's items
two things I wish were different are distance penalty and encounter map size. Reducing per meter distance penalty from 4% to 2% and quadrupling the encounter map size would be great.
Critical hit or miss where so fun I recall having an experience just the one Tim mentioned, going out early game, came across some raiders, shot, critical-miss left me blinded 😂. Another good one was in fallout 2 in the Den I think, theres a child with molotovs, threw one at me, critical hit, instant dead, "the chosen one" killled by a child with a molotov was hilarious to me.
To this day, since the 90s, I love to replay both games from time to time. During these years many dedicated people have made great mods that have implemented all of the things you've mentioned in this video.
When it comes to item picking from the ground (multiple corpses), FOnline games added a hotkey to just target that particular hex and pick anything you want from there (no pixel hunting).
Those are probably my favorite fan successors of the original (FOnline2238 and FOnline2). Both introduced so many great changes, from mixing real-time and turn-based combat, trading, crafting, base-building, faction building/wars and town-control fights. Truly something beautiful. The biggest challenge for them was attracting the player base, since most of the active player base were and still are the hardcore Fallout 1 & 2 fans.
From what I've seen, Russian devs did the most of the work in that field and were the pioneers in making it a user-friendly online game. They're simply addicted to that game.
tl;dr thank you for all the hard work and I hope that you like the love and work people are putting into your legacy. You have created something truly unique and timeless.
About the only complaint I had with Fallout 1, that you didn't mention, was the inventory menu (as opposed to the trade menu) having only one column of items to scroll through. It may have been a limitation of the resolution you were dealing with but it would have been easier if you'd had two to four columns so you could scroll through it faster.
His room has such a nice set-up!
Director's cut is the word you looking for maybe ?
Yes! Me wordinate bad.
I would like a turn camera clockwise or counterclockwise button. I would also like direct control of party members in combat.
I like how only like a year ago the take-all-loot-in-area feature was added in, to Fallout 76
Glad to see you do this retrospective. I'm not a game developer but I am a UI/UX developer.
Didn't play Fallout when it came out but I love older games and just played it recently. Very fun game, cool setting and all, but yes your UI decisions were atrocious! I think I spent more time managing inventory than actually adventuring. You have to switch between so many menus to find out what items weigh, what they're worth, what their stats are.
Should have had a party inventory screen where you can easily move stuff around in a grid, see what it does and what it weighs and what it's worth. In retrospect I'm using stuff like WoW and BG3 as references, but even contemporary games like Diablo did it better. Still love the game Tim.
As for the UI issues: I remember playing Fallout for a decent amount of time carrying the armour in my inventory and not in the armour slot thinking it was already worn by my character. When I found a better armour, I’d sell the old one and carry a better one in my inventory as well =)
Imagine my shock when I was at my friend’s watching how he replaced the armour his character was wearing in the armour slot not just in the inventory!
Interestingly Tactics had the option to pass on an encounter, it was still annoying in a ways lol because you would get spammed with messages every couple seconds to avoid an encounter until you failed the outdoorsmen check and were roped into one anyway.
I'm 25. My father was the biggest fan of your games man. I just finished fallout 2 myself. Please don't allow this world to change you. Thank you. RIP Dad. Love ya.
You could see the carry weight in fo2 tho in your inventory tho. You could also get into companions inventory through dialog.
"God If I had a little more time"
Waiting for Arcanum and Temple of Elemental Evil editions.
You're awesome Tim!
I agree with these, but I’d also love to see some of the major changes you’d make to Fallout. I think it would be nice to see what the original creator would do with the IP today
I'd like see that Fallout he has hidden away somewhere, but the chances of that are probably as likely as seeing the outlines of the last three SW movies dreamed up by George Lucas. lol Here's hoping it gets made someday regardless.
@@lrinfi man I didn’t even know Lucas had three more movies thought up! I’d have loved to see that, too, but you’re correct that we aren’t gonna get to see either. Tim said that he’ll know when he sees elements of his “hidden” fallout in other games, but we unfortunately wont ever know which features exactly…
@@Sindrella. :) He did...before the rights were sold to Disney. ;)
Tim, based on the other comments a video about the modding community on the fallout games would be amazing
i think rather than making it easier to trade more caps, i prefer increasing the value of the cap so guns that are 5000 are only 500, maybe not that drastic but i feel like i never pick up 1/2 caps and everything i buy is at least 2 digits . i play new vegas and 3 with a mod that does something similar, i like the caps feeling more valuable, also less math, also less clicking in inventories / barter menus
also new vegas’s other currencies did a good job of that too, with inherit world building as well
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